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Speaker 2: We're gonna take you back way back on a Wednesday
Speaker 2: to nineteen eighty six. On this day, something tragic and
Speaker 2: memorable yet memorable happened on this day we're going to
Speaker 2: talk about that. Rich is watching a new show and
Speaker 2: let's just say it involves a superstar athlete's mom.
Speaker 1: And he has a thought on that.
Speaker 2: We gotta talk Belichick and I know Stu Gotts was
Speaker 2: talking about it all day.
Speaker 1: But it's a huge story, no doubt.
Speaker 2: But Rich, this Schwartz story is sort of funny, and
Speaker 2: Swart saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe the Schwartz be with you.
Speaker 2: After the Browns informed defensive coach Jim Schwartz this morning
Speaker 2: they were passing him over to hire Todd Monk, and
Speaker 2: you just heard Dan Byer talking about it as head coach.
Speaker 1: Schwartz apparently was visibly upset.
Speaker 2: And when I say visibly upset, I imagine steam coming
Speaker 2: out his ears.
Speaker 1: He said goodbye in the building, he was like, peace
Speaker 1: out comes down, and he told all the other coaches.
Speaker 1: Is that a direct quote peace out? Cup scout?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm improvising a little bit, Rich, using my imagination.
Speaker 1: On sources say he said peace out, pig snout.
Speaker 4: Oh that's from a Cleveland Brown source piece big.
Speaker 2: Snout, And he says, get this though this is true.
Speaker 2: He tells the other coaches he's not coming back. That's
Speaker 2: according to sources. Schwartz is currently under contract with Cleveland.
Speaker 2: They want to retain it, but his future is now unclear.
Speaker 2: Get this, He's been is the defensive coordinator since twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three. He's still supposed to be on the team,
Speaker 2: but he already sort of made a scene and it's
Speaker 2: kind of an interesting story.
Speaker 1: Again. Todd Munkin is back. He was the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 2: For the Ravens, and even before that, he was the
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator with the Browns in twenty nineteen, so he
Speaker 2: has history with the He's now the head coach.
Speaker 1: But Schwartz is like, I'm not having it.
Speaker 2: He feels overlooked and undermined and mad about the whole situation.
Speaker 3: I'll say this the same way Mike McDaniel is known
Speaker 3: as an offensive mind, Right, Mike McDaniels, You're like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I would love to have that guy run my team,
Speaker 3: but maybe not as a head coach.
Speaker 1: He's an offensive guy.
Speaker 3: Dan Byers, It's safe to say Jim Schwartz is one
Speaker 3: of those guys that any team would beg to have
Speaker 3: him be the DC, but maybe not the head coach.
Speaker 5: I think that's fair. I do think that he does
Speaker 5: rub some people the wrong way. So I don't know
Speaker 5: if it would be every team, but bring to your
Speaker 5: point about being a head coach versus defensive coordinator kind
Speaker 5: of in that realm that you're looking at it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: I think that he's best suited probably as a defensive course.
Speaker 3: In fact, Brandon who works here, one of our buds,
Speaker 3: big Niners fan, like I am, He's like, how do
Speaker 3: your place? Robert Sella You strike while this guy's mad
Speaker 3: and say, yo, Jim Schwartz come to the Niners. A
Speaker 3: guy like that could get the Niners defense back on track.
Speaker 2: And he feels wanted, and that seems to be what
Speaker 2: motivates the guy. He just wants to feel wanted and
Speaker 2: desired and not overlooked. And of course he was in
Speaker 2: the moment he just got this news, but he did
Speaker 2: act like a bit of a sports baby, big baby
Speaker 2: Schwartz Matt one nine nine said, But he pieced everybody out.
Speaker 1: That's kind of awkward. Now do you think he's gonna
Speaker 1: come back?
Speaker 2: You know what it does make you think of like
Speaker 2: other moments which where you just saw people lose their
Speaker 2: lose their ass, lose they're cool at the workspace and just.
Speaker 3: Bounce reminds me of a classic Seinfeld episode. I know
Speaker 3: Spot and iwa Sam and the Seinfeld fans know this.
Speaker 3: But remember when George quit and then he just went
Speaker 3: back to work and pretended that it never happened.
Speaker 6: Is that Costanza over there? What are you doing here?
Speaker 3: But?
Speaker 6: Am I crazy? Or didn't you quit? What? What d you?
Speaker 1: You took that? Seriously? Oh funny? And that's based on
Speaker 1: a true story.
Speaker 3: Larry David quits Saturday Night Live and the story goes
Speaker 3: Larry David's roommates like, yeah, just go back into the
Speaker 3: writer's room tomorrow and like, just pretend it never happened.
Speaker 1: He did that, and apparently it worked.
Speaker 3: So maybe Jim Schwartz comes back tomorrow and he's like, hey,
Speaker 3: what's up guys?
Speaker 1: But you know who?
Speaker 2: That's awkward for the people he said goodbye to, because
Speaker 2: I want i'd want my goodbye back.
Speaker 1: Like, dude, you said goodbye on Wednesday. I'm not you know,
Speaker 1: if you all right?
Speaker 2: So you know what, if you do ever quit or
Speaker 2: after this season you get fired, I'm not gonna say
Speaker 2: goodbye again. We already went through this. It's a little awkward.
Speaker 2: So a lot of people hitting this up. Rich saying
Speaker 2: that he's just better. A lot of coaches are just
Speaker 2: better at offensive or defensive coaches than head coaches. He's
Speaker 2: just not head coach material. But who wants to hear
Speaker 2: that before they even get the chance?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: We've all been told what we're good at, and not
Speaker 2: everybody was right along the way. Rich, were you ever
Speaker 2: put in your place by a boss because they thought
Speaker 2: you could do whatever and you proved them wrong along
Speaker 2: the way?
Speaker 1: I mean, how do we.
Speaker 2: Know that just because he is a great defensive mind
Speaker 2: doesn't mean necessarily he can't be a good head coach?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: But anyway, are there other examples Larry David style that
Speaker 2: come to mind?
Speaker 3: I mean, I've seen people get fired up and walk out,
Speaker 3: and then you wonder, well, like cause you don't know sometimes.
Speaker 1: Like are they coming back? Dude? Our video guys Spot
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3: I think it was around the time Spot you started
Speaker 3: taking like testosterone shots or something. Do you remember you
Speaker 3: walked out of our podcast. You slammed down your stuff
Speaker 3: and just left.
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Speaker 3: I mean, spot, was there a part of you that's like,
Speaker 3: I'm not coming back or is it just a little hissy.
Speaker 1: Fit at the time, little beefit.
Speaker 7: I mean, I didn't want to leave you guys hanging
Speaker 7: because you can't function on your own.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Papa. I didn't mean it.
Speaker 3: But I worked with a guy in New York once,
Speaker 3: our buddy Ryan.
Speaker 1: We were at a breakfast.
Speaker 3: He did not like how the boss criticized him, and
Speaker 3: he was like, I'm out of here. And it was
Speaker 3: even more embarrassing because his coat got caught on the
Speaker 3: chair at the restaurant, so he started dragging the chair
Speaker 3: through the restauran. He's like, you know what, I've had
Speaker 3: enough of this. I don't you can't tell me how
Speaker 3: to do my radio show anymore. He gets up, his
Speaker 3: jackets caught, so the chair dragging across the restaurant. You
Speaker 3: were really making a statement like that, and I think
Speaker 3: because of the embarrassment of the moment, it's sort of
Speaker 3: lightened the mood and we're like, all right, relax, come back,
Speaker 3: sit out, like you know. I wonder if had his
Speaker 3: jacket not get caught, would have been more of a
Speaker 3: dramatic you know.
Speaker 7: Later take you seriously is to have your jacket caught
Speaker 7: and then you drag it out of the restaurant, like
Speaker 7: this is comical.
Speaker 2: You showed the boss. You made your point. Man, he's furious.
Speaker 2: It reminds me of an old Mitch Hedberg joke. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I got into a fight, got into an argument with
Speaker 2: my girlfriend in the tent.
Speaker 1: Did you ever hear that one? Rich?
Speaker 2: No, He's like, a tent is a terrible place to
Speaker 2: get into an argument because you can't slam the flap,
Speaker 2: he said, and then he tried to slam the flap
Speaker 2: on his way out, and it just really doesn't leave
Speaker 2: the impact.
Speaker 3: I've heard other people talk about how since we've gone
Speaker 3: from the house, you know, landlines to smartphones hanging up
Speaker 3: on someone, younger people will never know the joy of, like, yeah, what.
Speaker 1: Have you slammed the fight? What do you slam the phone?
Speaker 1: You aggressively?
Speaker 3: Do?
Speaker 1: Either point your finger hang up, Like does no slam
Speaker 1: in the phone anymore either.
Speaker 2: He's just like a loose can and some people have,
Speaker 2: you know, bigger tempers than others. But he really just
Speaker 2: was furious to hear this news because when you when
Speaker 2: you do things like that, you've truly had enough.
Speaker 3: You want to come, you know, I want you on
Speaker 3: a way back Wednesday to imagine that sound of a
Speaker 3: phone slamming that you haven't heard in years, like just
Speaker 3: when an ex girlfriend or someone.
Speaker 1: You would you would just hear that, like it was
Speaker 1: a legit, like y'all, oh she's mad. What's now? Like
Speaker 1: the phone hello? Huh huh, Like it's just the phone
Speaker 1: just goes dead. That's it. Yeah, it's just that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, really no impact. But again, if you just joined
Speaker 2: us Jim Schwartz, well he was he was overlooked. At
Speaker 2: least he feels overlooked. And the Browns are going with
Speaker 2: a new head coach and Todd Mounkin. He's not vibing
Speaker 2: with it. And he left, he said goodbye and he
Speaker 2: stormed off. So what's gonna happen again? As the news
Speaker 2: story goes, his future is unclear. He's still under contract.
Speaker 2: But it does make you think of like Scarfaced from Half.
Speaker 1: Baked A few few you're you cool? F you amau
Speaker 1: you know and.
Speaker 7: Stee Steve is a Isn't that like just basically a
Speaker 7: recreation or parody of Jerry maguire.
Speaker 1: He's like, Who's He's like, who's coming, Who's coming with me?
Speaker 1: He's got to come.
Speaker 3: I guess it was a little different. Yeah, I heard
Speaker 3: Jim Schwarts held up a golfish. That is a true story,
Speaker 3: I heard, right.
Speaker 2: But that's what makes it so funny because it's it's
Speaker 2: art imitating life, right. But I feel like we see
Speaker 2: it more in art, more in movies than we actually
Speaker 2: do in real life.
Speaker 1: How many times in your life have you seen this?
Speaker 1: You're there at the office and some guy just loses it.
Speaker 2: Rich and I have one story it comes to mind
Speaker 2: where we're in the studio and you know, one of
Speaker 2: the programmers called up an old producer of ours and
Speaker 2: yelled at him, whatever the kid.
Speaker 1: If you if you remember our old producer, Sammy.
Speaker 2: Rich, he threw the chair down, he started throwing stuff
Speaker 2: and stormed out of the studio.
Speaker 1: Like those are memorable moments.
Speaker 2: But in our twenty years of working together it happened once,
Speaker 2: and we've worked in several different offices, we haven't seen
Speaker 2: anyone storm off.
Speaker 1: So that's what it's a really funny story.
Speaker 2: I mean, not to him, but if you can imagine
Speaker 2: what the scene was like, like, what a big baby.
Speaker 2: It's never fun to be overlooked or feel that way.
Speaker 2: That's not my point. Have you ever heard about his reactions?
Speaker 3: Have you ever seen someone at a restaurant or like
Speaker 3: a old cafe or deli quit? Have you ever seen
Speaker 3: someone quit? Not at your job, like you're just happy
Speaker 3: to see it go down again? More in movies, Like
Speaker 3: I saw someone once at like a New York City
Speaker 3: little you know, like a little coffee breakfast spot, get
Speaker 3: in a fight. He took his apron off, his little
Speaker 3: little you know, pastry little apron deal, slammed it down
Speaker 3: and he's like, I have this, I'm out of here.
Speaker 3: And he hopped over the counter and left. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh damn.
Speaker 2: You have to like deep, dig deep into the memory
Speaker 2: just to pull out that story. But again, I think
Speaker 2: he's in a really awkward situation now, being that he
Speaker 2: said goodbye to the other coaches and I'm sure the
Speaker 2: other faculty, the security guy, the parking dude he bounced.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he took a box with him
Speaker 2: or what, but he in anger and you have to
Speaker 2: imagine and again I'm speculating that he and Todd munkin
Speaker 2: if he were to come back, are going to have
Speaker 2: to have a conversation about why he feels this way. Right,
Speaker 2: So he did act like a big baby, but these
Speaker 2: are big opportunities. No one wants to be overlooked. Like
Speaker 2: I said, but what are your thoughts on Jim Schwartz
Speaker 2: storming out of the facility, Todd Munkin's the new Coach,
Speaker 2: and any other examples of you just hello, yeah, witnessing
Speaker 2: things like this first hand.
Speaker 1: I do want to give it a little context.
Speaker 3: Jim Schwartz obviously overlooked, but if you do look at
Speaker 3: his career as a head coach, he got five seasons
Speaker 3: with the Lions, and the one season he did have
Speaker 3: a winning record and went to the playoffs. I remember
Speaker 3: they started really really good and then you know, so
Speaker 3: that tailed off. But as a head coach Cavino twenty
Speaker 3: nine and fifty one, he had a two and fourteen season,
Speaker 3: six and ten, ten and six, four and twelve, seven
Speaker 3: and nine, and historically, if you look at Jim Schwartz, a.
Speaker 1: Great defensive mind. Van Baltimore Ravens linebacker coach, Tennessee Titans
Speaker 1: defensive assistant linebacker coach, defensive coordinator for the Titans after
Speaker 1: he had his little chance as a head coach in Detroit,
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's defensive coordinator, Eagles defensive coordinator, Titans defensive assistant,
Speaker 1: and then coordinator again for the Browns. So he's his
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three yea.
Speaker 3: I look at it from his perspective, He's like, listen,
Speaker 3: I've proven myself time and time again defensively. Am I
Speaker 3: going to get another shot? Because he's seeing guys getting
Speaker 3: third shots? So does Jim Schwartz even deserve a second chance?
Speaker 4: And remember he's watching another coordinator get the head coaching
Speaker 4: gig exactly. So if it was like some you know,
Speaker 4: John Harbaugh or something like that, maybe.
Speaker 1: He could live with it a little bit easier. That's
Speaker 1: a good point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ravens coordinator is getting the head gig?
Speaker 1: Why not him? I mean, but let's be real.
Speaker 2: How many people in real life feel over everybody feels
Speaker 2: that way? Acting that way? I don't I really think
Speaker 2: ever gets you the job you want. People just talk
Speaker 2: about you behind your back, and I say, get a
Speaker 2: load of this guy. He thinks he deserves it. What
Speaker 2: a big baby, you know? And everybody feels that.
Speaker 3: The job market. Codino is tough, right, no matter what
Speaker 3: you do for a living. But traditionally speaking in the
Speaker 3: world of any career, if you get overlooked for something,
Speaker 3: that's usually indication number one to start putting that resume
Speaker 3: out there, start making those phone calls, even if it's
Speaker 3: a lateral move. Here's the deal. If he's with the
Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns, look at it this way. If he's with
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns and there's a head coaching vacancy and
Speaker 3: they say we're not going with Jim Schwartz, then he
Speaker 3: hit his ceiling in Cleveland.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if they're not going with him now, when the
Speaker 2: opportunity is there, it's gonna be a long while if ever. See,
Speaker 2: I can't say never because Todd Munkin was not the creator,
Speaker 2: but with Brown nineteen years later, he got the opportunity.
Speaker 3: The same way you talked about early on in your
Speaker 3: career when you were a K Rock. You were really
Speaker 3: great young rock on air talent, but they looked at
Speaker 3: you as the young guy, and if they were never
Speaker 3: going to really give you the gig, yeah, had to
Speaker 3: eventually be like, yeah, I gotta go somewhere else because.
Speaker 2: That was the sentiment, right, you got to go out
Speaker 2: and get your experience somewhere else and then maybe come back.
Speaker 3: But look, it's also Cleveland, COVID, it's also Cleveland. Where
Speaker 3: what is the if you had to say there was
Speaker 3: a redeeming quality of the Cleveland Browns, what do you say?
Speaker 1: It's that?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, the defense kept him in every game
Speaker 3: even though they stunk. That's a credit to Jim Schwartz.
Speaker 3: Defense fantastic. That was the one thumbs up. So if
Speaker 3: you're Jim Schwartz, if you say I'm out of here,
Speaker 3: you f you.
Speaker 1: You're cool, I'm out there are I.
Speaker 3: Would argue double digit double digits teams that would say, yo,
Speaker 3: let's let's figure a way to get this guy on
Speaker 3: board defensively and then maybe you go from there to
Speaker 3: a head coaching job.
Speaker 1: But to stay in Cleveland, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Hate that idea of you have to leave and make
Speaker 2: your mark and then come back.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's what it is.
Speaker 2: The case called, but if you got always the case,
Speaker 2: because everybody makes their own path in life.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of truth to it.
Speaker 3: I remember I remember when I worked at hot one
Speaker 3: oh seven in Syracuse.
Speaker 1: It was just one o seven before you got there.
Speaker 1: Right here.
Speaker 3: I got there and they're like, now it's hot one
Speaker 3: o seven, so hot, so hot, so hot.
Speaker 1: Now Rich is like Hansel right now.
Speaker 3: I remember Danny and listen, Danny. You remember your old
Speaker 3: school days of even music radio. There'd be a vacancy
Speaker 3: and to be like, yeah, there's an opening for the
Speaker 3: new night guy. When you're in your early twenties mid twenties,
Speaker 3: like being the night guys, like that's like the spot, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, usually the Saturday night house party guy on the
Speaker 4: weekend gets the night gig.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you want to be on like six to
Speaker 3: ten PM or seven to eleven, like youah, the night
Speaker 3: In old school radio, the night guy was.
Speaker 1: Like the cool guy. And I remember the night did
Speaker 1: the club events.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the nighttime opening got some girls like it was
Speaker 3: that was the spot, right you wanted to work at
Speaker 3: the night time spot. When you were twenty two, I
Speaker 3: remember there was a nighttime opening at Hot one O seven.
Speaker 3: I was like a weekend guy fill in like I
Speaker 3: thought I was like the I thought I was next
Speaker 3: And much like out of a TV show or movie,
Speaker 3: we had a programming meeting. The whole staff is there
Speaker 3: and they're like and you know what we're also going
Speaker 3: to announce the new night guy. And in my mind,
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm about to stand up and be like, hey,
Speaker 3: thanks everybody, and you.
Speaker 1: Don't think they would have talked to you about it
Speaker 1: prior to the beginning. And in my mind, I'm like,
Speaker 1: they can announce it right now. I'm a man.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, here a hot one on seven nine.
Speaker 3: We have a new night guy starting Monday whatever.
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking they're gonna be like Rich Davis, they
Speaker 1: like Matt Johnson. I'm like Matt Johnson. Matt Johnson's a thweb.
Speaker 2: I'm like, but you know what think about if you
Speaker 2: acted like Schwartz did, how lame?
Speaker 1: That would be no. But you know what I did.
Speaker 3: I didn't storm out like Matt Swartz, but I immediately
Speaker 3: was like I'm out of this place. I'll work here
Speaker 3: and I'll standpoint until I figure it out. But that
Speaker 3: was my indicator, Yep, that was my indicator, Like, Yo.
Speaker 1: What they think about you? Yeah, I'm out.
Speaker 3: And Cavino and I always said that in our career,
Speaker 3: like if there, if they're looking for a fun lifestyle
Speaker 3: sports show and they pick someone other than us, then
Speaker 3: we got to go somewhere else because that's like, I
Speaker 3: get what I get.
Speaker 2: I just think there's a way to handle yourself. This
Speaker 2: this is like the epitome of a hot head. This
Speaker 2: is hot head baby behaviors as one is outside looking in.
Speaker 2: But you know what the best one is, This is
Speaker 2: like second in recent history.
Speaker 3: But Coch, Danny g and Dan Bayer and I was saying,
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm a little familiar with schorts for some reason.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I always found them fascinating.
Speaker 3: We'd all agree he is cut from that like hot
Speaker 3: head often not really.
Speaker 1: Like other teams.
Speaker 3: You still got to act like a profession I know,
Speaker 3: but it's sort of an is it tracks as they say,
Speaker 3: this doesn't shock.
Speaker 1: Me, okay, but one that stands out.
Speaker 2: And I got to give props to Willem and a
Speaker 2: Criner Green for eight seven to seven on the chat
Speaker 2: Covino and Rich FSR live chat on YouTube. Antonio Brown
Speaker 2: was one of the best ones looking back. I mean,
Speaker 2: clown behavior for sure, but you'll never forget it. You know,
Speaker 2: there is some beauty in going out like that, if
Speaker 2: you're really done, that might be the best way. We
Speaker 2: all had fantasies like that right. I mean, if I
Speaker 2: ever quit this job one last day, oh man, what
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do to the boss's desk before I leave?
Speaker 3: Why we all have fan Why does the go to
Speaker 3: everyone says they want to take a poop on the
Speaker 3: bus's desk? Why is that like to be? Because you
Speaker 3: do sometimes, That's why. And that's exactly what I was thinking.
Speaker 3: I would never do that, but I've dreamt about it.
Speaker 2: But the ab thing, like, of course, he's unhinged and unleashed,
Speaker 2: and that was so memorable. Imagine just dipping off on
Speaker 2: the field like that. He went out and on his
Speaker 2: own tournament.
Speaker 3: There's obviously, you know, I'm probably more than speculation that
Speaker 3: Antonio Brown is a troubled guy.
Speaker 1: Right. Oh But in that moment, though, you're like, did
Speaker 1: he just take his jersey off?
Speaker 3: Is he shirtless? Hyping up the crowd, walking out of them?
Speaker 3: This guy's a lunatan. I think he just quit.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, that's the update, guys, he was he's passed
Speaker 2: over and Enrich I think you made the best point. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the writing on the wall, so take a good
Speaker 2: look at it and read it. That's your sign, not
Speaker 2: just his, your sign that you gotta move somewhere else,
Speaker 2: move on to get that opportunity. Unfortunately, that's just how
Speaker 2: things work.
Speaker 3: Do you put ejections in the same categories. That's not
Speaker 3: getting fired, that's more temporary. But how do you feel
Speaker 3: about when a manager or a coach quote gets their
Speaker 3: money's worth? Like when like I remember, like Wally Backman's
Speaker 3: like throwing bases around or like a loop panela or
Speaker 3: baby hilarious but in reality embarrassing.
Speaker 2: Here's the difference, Right when I think of Wally Backman
Speaker 2: or that famous clip of some guy throwing like fake
Speaker 2: grenades and he's doing an army crawl.
Speaker 1: He's doing an army crawl, some minor league coach. I
Speaker 1: forget who it was.
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, as a spectator, as a fan, as
Speaker 2: a guy who just likes a funny viral video. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's great, But imatterine, if that was your dad or
Speaker 2: your husband or someone you're related to, that's.
Speaker 1: Just embarrassing behavior.
Speaker 2: Like you, you get to a certain level, you have
Speaker 2: to conduct yourself at a certain level, gotcha, all right?
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Speaker 2: You think Jim Schwartz only had the dry piece today
Speaker 2: and he was just you know, a different level of angry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would explain the f U FU you're cool?
Speaker 3: I'm out u a lah, we said Jim Schwartz. P
Speaker 3: the George Costanza if you remember this classic Seinfeld, is.
Speaker 6: That Costanza over there? What are you doing here?
Speaker 2: But?
Speaker 6: Am I crazy? Or didn't you quit? What?
Speaker 1: What? That?
Speaker 6: Are you kidding?
Speaker 8: Now?
Speaker 1: Who?
Speaker 6: You took that serious?
Speaker 1: You took that serious? Jim Schwantz will be back in
Speaker 1: work tomorrow.
Speaker 3: But again, Cavino, he's a defensive coordinator expert. Does he
Speaker 3: deserve another head coaching opportunity?
Speaker 1: That's that's up for debate.
Speaker 3: He's like I always looked at Wade Phillips as one
Speaker 3: of those guys that yeah he got a couple opportunities,
Speaker 3: but he was Some people are just better at a specialty.
Speaker 2: And you know what, Rich, I'm thinking about it off there,
Speaker 2: I'm seeing the feedback at Covino on or CHFSR on YouTube,
Speaker 2: a lot of people talking about Bobby Knight. I'd have
Speaker 2: to say that in sports the rules are different than
Speaker 2: in real life. Yeah, they just are right. So again
Speaker 2: we're talking about a coaches temper. These are football coaches,
Speaker 2: hot headed college basketball coaches right. I think they played
Speaker 2: by different rules, but a lot of our conversation was
Speaker 2: in real life.
Speaker 1: It's hard to come back from these moments. However. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm picturing lou Panella kicking and screaming like a big baby.
Speaker 1: You know, it's such a baby, look a sports baby. Look.
Speaker 1: But nobody wants to feel overlooked, and that's what happened. Well,
Speaker 1: let's go to a couple of phone calls.
Speaker 3: I do want to point out our buddy Rob, who's
Speaker 3: listening in our affiliate in San Antonio.
Speaker 1: You're Rob?
Speaker 3: Whoa wait, here's no basement in the Alamo? What's up
Speaker 3: San Antonio? He said that minor league manager that you
Speaker 3: guys joked about, he went ballistic and through the hand grenades.
Speaker 3: That's Philip Wellman. He did that in the two thousand
Speaker 3: and seven Mississippi Braves Chattanooga Lookouts. I know this because
Speaker 3: manager Bobby Cox had no problem with it and extended
Speaker 3: his minor league contract the next year, and all the teammates, coaches,
Speaker 3: everyone seemed to love it internally. But I remember seeing
Speaker 3: it being like, this guy's lost his mind and we're
Speaker 3: reaping all the betute and that guy's of San Antonio
Speaker 3: native coach Philip Wellman. So look at that all, let's
Speaker 3: go to Virginia. I want to say, I had to
Speaker 3: Tony hey Don.
Speaker 1: Yeah, here for Jim Schwartz his job. He ought to work.
Speaker 8: Something out with the Ravens and become the DC there
Speaker 8: and play the Browns twice a year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what, those little rivalries would be
Speaker 3: great for football. I mean, I just think that in
Speaker 3: certain scenarios, if there's other options, sometimes you got to
Speaker 3: bite your tongue and say, all right, I'll play it
Speaker 3: out until something fits for me. But I think if
Speaker 3: Jim Schwartz said I'm out, I'm available now, Am I
Speaker 3: crazy to say that there would be a team in
Speaker 3: the NFL that would jump to Jim Schwartz. I'm even thinking,
Speaker 3: like I said my forty nine ers with Robert Salagan,
Speaker 3: I think there could be some room for a guy
Speaker 3: like him.
Speaker 2: Every industry is different, Rich, But what do we often
Speaker 2: say when things like this occur in the professional work world.
Speaker 2: I mean, well, did he make it very clear to
Speaker 2: ownership that he wanted that job? I assume he did.
Speaker 2: For him to react that way, he had to have
Speaker 2: made it very clear that he wanted that job. If not,
Speaker 2: that's on him. And we say that to so many people. Hey, man,
Speaker 2: are you sure they know that you want the job.
Speaker 2: Don't just assume just because you're working hard that they
Speaker 2: got you written down just in case.
Speaker 1: You got to make it very very.
Speaker 3: Clear, no joke. I mean, we've joked about it here,
Speaker 3: but not really. We've said, if there's a legend on
Speaker 3: this network, whether it be DP or Colin, if one
Speaker 3: of these guys decides they're going to retire, we've made
Speaker 3: it very clear.
Speaker 1: I'm putting my hand up. Hey, you know, like you
Speaker 1: if you don't make it clear, there's no confusion.
Speaker 2: Because how often does it happen in relationships and relationships,
Speaker 2: dating relationships and work like oh well, I didn't know
Speaker 2: you were interested, I didn't know you wanted many times?
Speaker 1: How many times because you're failing to make it clear.
Speaker 3: How many times has a husband or wife said like
Speaker 3: a phrase like, oh my god, I didn't know you
Speaker 3: were unhappy?
Speaker 1: Exactly right.
Speaker 2: So I'm assuming that Jim Schwartz made this known for
Speaker 2: that type of reaction.
Speaker 1: If not, then that's on him.
Speaker 4: Maybe that was part of the frustration because it says
Speaker 4: there a little research. It says Schwartz did not interview
Speaker 4: officially for the Browns head coaching position.
Speaker 2: He didn't get the opportunity. Yeah, I'm sure he made
Speaker 2: it clear, like, hey, guys, I want this gig. So
Speaker 2: when they gave it to someone else, that's just again
Speaker 2: our speculation based on that. So unfortunately, in life sometimes
Speaker 2: not all is fair. He may have thought he earned it,
Speaker 2: and we've all been there. Everybody gets to that point
Speaker 2: and sometimes you just gotta move on to get that respect.
Speaker 2: And that's the update. But congrats to Todd Munkin. He's like, hey,
Speaker 2: what did I do?
Speaker 1: Congrats to him.
Speaker 5: What's up, dB, Yeah, just a little bit. Schwartz did interview.
Speaker 5: In fact, he interviewed twice, and I'm sorry he interviewed twice.
Speaker 5: And in fact, when I left work yesterday, there was
Speaker 5: a lot of momentum going towards this is going to
Speaker 5: be Jim Schwartz's job.
Speaker 1: Now. I don't know if his people.
Speaker 5: We're telling the insiders that he thought that he was
Speaker 5: going to get the job, and so that's why they
Speaker 5: reported it. But there's also some talk that are unsubstantiated
Speaker 5: that maybe ownership went over the heads of front office
Speaker 5: and their search committee in choosing top Monkin over Jim
Speaker 5: Schwartz and uh Neil uh shield House from the from
Speaker 5: the Rams. So there's a little bit of conflicting stories
Speaker 5: on on how things transpired. But twenty four hours ago
Speaker 5: it seemed like Schwartz was in line to be the
Speaker 5: next head coach and more embarrassing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's why I think that's why he friends.
Speaker 2: And that's another like a whole other lesson here again,
Speaker 2: thank you tv F Yeah, thank you, screw you bing?
Speaker 1: Yeah? What is bing?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: But it's a matter of like, don't count you spot
Speaker 1: thank you fine. I was like, you're the guy that
Speaker 1: uses bad That's what is loaded on this computer right here.
Speaker 2: I know, don't count your chicken Chandler. It's not official
Speaker 2: until it is.
Speaker 1: It's like watching album on Apple Music. It was just
Speaker 1: already there. It's so funny.
Speaker 3: Damn Bayer, don't pardon Danny g He was asking Jeeves.
Speaker 1: Next game navigating over here. Yeah, didn't have the up
Speaker 1: to date info.
Speaker 3: Cleveland Brown's hiring, like you said, Monkin, offensive coordinator for
Speaker 3: the Ravens, offensive coordinator for the Bucks, the Browns. Like
Speaker 3: he's made his rounds offensively does it make Schwartz feel
Speaker 3: any better that they just went with an offensive leaning
Speaker 3: minded guy. Is at like the rationale, like if you
Speaker 3: get dumped for a guy and the guy so different
Speaker 3: than you, then you might be like, well, yeah, you.
Speaker 5: Know, this is where sometimes I'm not a big thinker
Speaker 5: in group think. But so Nathan Schielhouse, the Rams offensive
Speaker 5: or passing game coordinator's going to go back to the Rams.
Speaker 5: He interviewed for the Browns job, he interviewed for the
Speaker 5: Bills job, interviewed for some other coaching jobs. I don't
Speaker 5: know how much. Monkin interviewed elsewhere for other gigs. He
Speaker 5: interviewed to be their offensive coordinator, but not a head
Speaker 5: coaching gig. So they went with an older offensive coordinator
Speaker 5: as opposed to turning younger when neither have head coaching
Speaker 5: experience in the NFL. They went with an older voice
Speaker 5: on the offensive of the ball instead of going with
Speaker 5: defense and Schwartz or the younger candidate and Shieldhouse with
Speaker 5: By the way, again, Grant Edinski and Mike McDaniel would
Speaker 5: throw their names from consideration for the job. Jesse Minner
Speaker 5: was up for it, but he ended up getting the
Speaker 5: Ravens job, so there's a lot there, but they went
Speaker 5: with the older offensive guy.
Speaker 2: Hey, well, speaking of dB, he's got your update. But
Speaker 2: let me pose this question first. Speaking of head coaching gigs,
Speaker 2: they're few and far between. And speaking of head coaches,
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick, the other big story that Dan Byer broke
Speaker 2: on this show yesterday is sort of caught us by surprise, like, wow,
Speaker 2: really think about this.
Speaker 1: The voters cowards or integrity.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of speculation, man, these cowards, these cowards,
Speaker 2: cowards or valid right, plus some other nuggets of thought
Speaker 2: when it comes to Bill Belichick. We'll get to that
Speaker 2: and your feedback and Midwick major, But first dB with
Speaker 2: the update.
Speaker 1: What's up buddy?
Speaker 5: So yeah, just on the heels of that Belichick story,
Speaker 5: Tom Brady came to his head coach's defense and speaking
Speaker 5: with Seattle Sports seven to ten am earlier today.
Speaker 1: There's no coach I'd ever rather play for.
Speaker 2: If I'm taking one coach to go out there to
Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl, give me one season, I'm taking
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1: So that's enough.
Speaker 5: Set even the President his way in. President Trump took
Speaker 5: to social media, calling the decision quote ridiculous end quote.
Speaker 5: In that social media post, says that the vote should
Speaker 5: be overturned.
Speaker 1: Isn't listen, let me tell you overturned.
Speaker 3: It's absurd to think that it's so bizarre that Tom
Speaker 3: Brady the president mahomes like, I saw all the tweets, like,
Speaker 3: there's not one person I've seen with that has credibility.
Speaker 1: That's like, yeah, I agree, No, that's not true.
Speaker 2: It's it took us my surprise. I'll say that I
Speaker 2: didn't hear a lot of exactly. Rob Parker is like cheet.
Speaker 2: I heard him, and it made me think. Props to
Speaker 2: the odd couple and other people that have stated this
Speaker 2: hall cheating is cheating, cheating, that is cheating.
Speaker 1: Although I was very surprised as well. Yeah, Parker says
Speaker 1: Tom Brady shouldn't be elected into those Well hold that, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: what what else is going on? dB?
Speaker 5: Patriots quarterback Drake May limited in practice today with a
Speaker 5: shoulder injury. Of course, they've got the Seahawks coming up
Speaker 5: in Super Bowl sixty. The NBA trade deadline is a
Speaker 5: week from tomorrow, and ESPN reported earlier today multiple teams
Speaker 5: have made aggressive offers four Bucks forward Giannis and Teta Kumpo.
Speaker 5: The report said that Giannis has let it be known
Speaker 5: for months with a team that he wants out of Milwaukee.
Speaker 5: Team is now listening to those offers, with the trade
Speaker 5: deadline again coming up next Thursday. That's not tomorrow, that's
Speaker 5: a week from Thursday. Anthony Edwards expected to play for
Speaker 5: the Timberwolves to night against the Mavericks. Rocket Center Steven
Speaker 5: Adams going to miss the rest of the year following
Speaker 5: surgery on his ankle. Janick Center will face Novak Djokovic
Speaker 5: in the Australian Open Semis. On the men's side, Patrick
Speaker 5: Reid announced he's leaving liv Golf and seeking reinstatement to
Speaker 5: the PGA Tour, where you can start playing in PGA
Speaker 5: Tour events as a non member in August, which is
Speaker 5: one year removed from when he last teed it up
Speaker 5: in a Lift Golf event. Guys, back to you, Wow.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Dan Bayer, Thanks Dan.
Speaker 3: Some more thoughts on Belichick and of course next Hour
Speaker 3: will give away some prizes with some.
Speaker 1: Words of wisdom.
Speaker 3: We got Midweek Major and Cavino there's there's something I
Speaker 3: want to throw at you. We live in a world
Speaker 3: now where social media has been around long enough where
Speaker 3: there's people that can look like they're predicting the future.
Speaker 3: And there's a there's a wild tweet that resurfaced that
Speaker 3: we got to get to. So we'll talk about all
Speaker 3: that and more next right here. Covino Rich on Fox Sports.
Speaker 2: Radio, Hey, Rich, Danny Sam Bayer, did you hear the
Speaker 2: biggest surprise in sports Tyson Fury's out of retirement today?
Speaker 2: Maybe Spot, I'll talk about it in Midweek Major. Maybe not,
Speaker 2: but Fury when h is on Netflix April eleventh. So
Speaker 2: Fury fighting that big giant Russian. That's the weakest part
Speaker 2: about fighters retiring. You know, they're just doing it.
Speaker 1: So please at least come back. I pay you to
Speaker 1: come back.
Speaker 3: I know we're talking about boxing versus sports entertainment, but I
Speaker 3: find the boxing retirement has the same credibility as like
Speaker 3: an old school like WWE retirement.
Speaker 2: It really has about the same Lacho Man versus Rick
Speaker 2: Flair retirement match.
Speaker 1: You like, you really have really really retirement match.
Speaker 2: Well, I wanted to bring that up in case Spot
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio Studio and Bill Belichick is all the buzz.
Speaker 2: When Dan Byer made that announcement breaking news on our
Speaker 2: show yesterday.
Speaker 1: We were all sort of shocked, like how is that possible?
Speaker 2: Then you start doing some sort of deductive reasoning, You're like, well,
Speaker 2: you rub people the wall. Oh yeah, well he's part
Speaker 2: of a cheating scandal. That's definitely why. So they're trying
Speaker 2: to make a point. So because you know, leading up
Speaker 2: to it, Rich it wasn't there. It like there was
Speaker 2: a lot of buzz about he might not get in.
Speaker 1: I didn't hear one persons.
Speaker 3: And I think that when you hear Tom Brady or
Speaker 3: even saw tweets and messages from my homes and you
Speaker 3: know people that are very involved, it's it's so undeniable
Speaker 3: that he's arguing Tom Brady's gonna have his back because
Speaker 3: you know, he was part of a cheating scandal too,
Speaker 3: arguably if not the best coach of the last fifty years,
Speaker 3: and he's not a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: That's insane.
Speaker 2: It does seem insane, but it makes more sense when
Speaker 2: you put the pieces together as to why then is
Speaker 2: it fair? You know, these are all things we could speculate.
Speaker 2: So I'm asking because I keep reading like these guys
Speaker 2: are cowards, and you know what, I would have voted
Speaker 2: him in too, But as far as conversation, like cowards
Speaker 2: or maybe they have a crazy level of integrity and
Speaker 2: they're like, yeah, not this time, buddy, you're probably gonna
Speaker 2: get in. Just you know when we say it's okay.
Speaker 2: So is it cowardly or is it integrity? They have
Speaker 2: a valid point to keep them out. And the Brady
Speaker 2: thing is also a big question mark. Could I ad
Speaker 2: a third option?
Speaker 3: And by the way, the Braidy thing is interesting because
Speaker 3: by that reason and that logic you would say, what
Speaker 3: is Brady not a first ballot guy? I mean, if
Speaker 3: you imagine not voting Tom Brady into the Hall of
Speaker 3: Fame first ballot, that's that's even more preposterous.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of ways to look at here. Here's
Speaker 1: my third option.
Speaker 3: What about the thought of hey, you know what, maybe
Speaker 3: it's a power trip. Hey, I you know, like when
Speaker 3: you give One of my favorite things is you never
Speaker 3: give someone power that doesn't deserve it. And you've given,
Speaker 3: like some of these sports art is a power that
Speaker 3: maybe they haven't earned in your mind, Like you know,
Speaker 3: I always say, tell someone what you want don't ask
Speaker 3: them like if there's you know, if you're in a
Speaker 3: young kid at the club or something, don't be like, hey,
Speaker 3: is it okay? No, say I need to get there.
Speaker 3: Like I just feel like when you ask people instead
Speaker 3: of tell them like you.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think you gave these writers too
Speaker 1: much of a too much of a voice.
Speaker 2: Your thoughts, and I'm going to give you another little
Speaker 2: nugget of thought to make you think about it some more.
Speaker 1: But Belichick's not in. I'm sure he'll eventually get in.
Speaker 1: Is it valid? Is it bunk? Is it cowardly? Let
Speaker 1: us know? Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox will
Speaker 1: give you our thoughts. Is it some reporters power tripping
Speaker 1: trying to get a little a little love. I don't know.
Speaker 1: We'll get to your feedback next right here on FSR