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So this song gets you fired up, 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 2: all right? 24 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: Bar Yeah, there's another one that gets me fired up too, 25 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: especially now yeah yeah. 26 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I know what song that is. 27 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I'm going to go see a game. Yeah 28 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: oh yeah, oh yeah. 29 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: Maybe more than one. Oh, I might stand on the sideline. 30 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, where I've never seen the entry? Come on, I've 31 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: never seen it in person. 32 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 5: Come on, where. 33 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: I heard is one of the most exciting entries into 34 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: the gradium. Wow, need more heart, just got more exciting. 35 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that, just got more exciting. Here we go, 36 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: here we go, and here come You're fighting gobblers. Oh 37 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: oh wait, wait wait, I mean huh that's right. Here 38 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: she comes all over the halkies. 39 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 4: Virginia Tech has got their man, James Franklin. Yeah, upgrading 40 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 4: from hold on now hold on? 41 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: Oh sorry, I mean it is kind of I mean, 42 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: nothing against my guy because he was the man. But man, 43 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: he got that job because of his job at State. 44 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 4: So he was owed forty nine million dollars in the 45 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 4: buyout after Penn State fired him, but as part of 46 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 4: his deal with Virginia Tech, ESPN reported he's getting a 47 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 4: nine million dollar settlement from Penn State. James Franklin hired 48 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 4: by Virginia Tech. The quote, I'm honored and humbled to 49 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 4: join the hockey family. My vision is simple to restore 50 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 4: unmatched excellence, to build something that lasts, and to serve 51 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 4: this university, the Commonwealth of Virginia, and our amazing fan 52 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 4: base with honor, integrity, and passion. I look forward to 53 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 4: getting to work with our players, our staff, and the 54 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 4: entire Virginia Tech community. James Franklin has found a home again. Congrets, yeah, congrets. 55 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 4: What are they in the ACC? 56 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 5: They're in the ACCA. 57 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: ACC should be on notice, man, the Big East. 58 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 5: I think, yeah, they should. It's wild to think how 59 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 5: this program, how good it was. I mean, like when 60 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 5: we were coming up. Man, I don't know if you 61 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 5: felt this way too, back when they're in the Big East. 62 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 5: This was I mean, Frank Beemer job. He did the 63 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 5: special teams, like the whole thing. Even when I was, 64 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 5: you know, coming when I was in you know, in 65 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 5: high school and college, like this was one of the 66 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 5: powerhouses that this was a team that won double digit 67 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 5: games year and year out. Yeah, So it's it's just 68 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 5: it's weird. Now there's been a generation because probably since 69 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 5: Beamer left, and maybe even at the end of Beamer's tenure, 70 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 5: there really hasn't been a guy to bring in that 71 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 5: run of success like they've experienced under Frank Beemer. And 72 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 5: I think James Franklin, Franklin could get him back to 73 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 5: that like as far as if he can take him 74 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 5: altimately to the promised Land. It seems like an uphill battle. 75 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 5: But again we uh, you never know. I mean, we 76 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 5: got a lot of a lot of different schools that 77 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 5: haven't been in the mix are now in the mix 78 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 5: for college football. So it's it's it's fun to see 79 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 5: the parody. 80 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 2: He is in the heart of a heart. 81 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: What is it called a a hot bed is what 82 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: I'm looking for of talent the Tidewater area of Virginia, 83 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: like the Norfolk area, Hampton, Hampton Roads, Richmond, the more 84 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: centralized part of Virginia, you know, with the Huguenots and 85 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: shouts out to my man, coach Charles h Charles, let 86 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: me let me tell you something. 87 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 2: The amount of talent that that. 88 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: Circulates from the Baltimore corridor of Delaware to all the 89 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: way down into North Carolina. Those are the places that 90 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: James Franklin has thrived in and recruiting the hell out 91 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: of players. Not to mention his ability to be able 92 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: to get that one or two four star hot you know, 93 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: high rated guy from different areas around the country. You 94 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: know some parts of California, you know parts of Florida, 95 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: you know parts of Texas, or even some places down 96 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: in the deeper South like Alabama or certain places like that. 97 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: He's going to be a problem for He's going to 98 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: be a problem, I'll tell you that. And he's going 99 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: to bring in athletes because that's what he does. He's 100 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: going to have probably to Q's point, it's going to 101 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: be easier to get to Blacksburg. There's I think the 102 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: recruiting for him will be a lot more centralized and 103 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 1: easier than what it probably was for him in state 104 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: college at Penn State. 105 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: So I think, I mean, it's a great get. It is. 106 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm Virginia Tech, I am crazy a 107 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: static that I was able to get a coach of 108 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: his caliber to come in this day and age to 109 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: come to our school and coach. I would have thought 110 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: he might have held out and for maybe a bigger 111 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: job opening to come before before making that decision or 112 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: going to Virginia Tech. But I mean, if you look 113 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: at it from a very critical perspective, I can't even 114 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: imagine how many guys are probably gonna end up leaving 115 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: Penn State to go to Virginia Tech. There may be 116 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: some guys that are at other schools that may end 117 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: up leaving there that were recruited by James Franklin before 118 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: may not be in the happiest the situations, are going 119 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: to go to Virginia Tech. He's going to ramp up 120 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: pretty quickly. I would be I would be shocked if 121 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: he did not ramp up very quickly as soon as 122 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: he gets in there and the transfer portal opens. 123 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 5: So a few thoughts from my side on this thing 124 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 5: with James Franklin. You know, he he struggled to win 125 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 5: those big AP rank games, and what's interesting about that 126 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 5: is a lot of those games came down to tight, 127 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 5: you know, fourth quarter end of game scenarios or situations, 128 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 5: and I always thought he didn't manage it overly. Well, 129 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 5: I feel like you're gonna be plunting a lot of 130 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 5: tight games at Virginia Tech every single week. And if 131 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 5: that's the case, it's a little bit of a concern. 132 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 5: Like I, I know, James Franklin can recruit. He's a 133 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 5: good man, he's a good guy good coach. That is 134 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 5: the one thing that I kind of look at as 135 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 5: a bit of a flaw from his time at Penn 136 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 5: State that I do wonder how that will play out 137 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 5: at Virginia Tech. I also I'm wondering this. I mean, 138 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 5: he recruited really well at Penn State. I do think 139 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 5: he'll be able to recruit well or at least better 140 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 5: than what they've had at Virginia Tech. But in a 141 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 5: day and age where you're everyone's kind of getting paid, 142 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 5: you know, you have to wonder what the collective situation 143 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 5: looks like at Virginia Tech, what additional funds they have 144 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 5: that gives them an advantage over other teams in the ACC. 145 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 5: I do think he's got to strike fast. I mean, 146 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 5: this is an aec that Scott Florida State down, Miami's up. 147 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 5: But when you look at the programs that you're in 148 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 5: competition with, I think you can you can compete if 149 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 5: you just handle that local area kind of like you're 150 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 5: talking about right, Like they don't. He doesn't need to 151 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 5: really go outside of Virginia or the DMV like that 152 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 5: that area of the country to be able to field 153 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 5: a team and be really successful. Like I also think 154 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 5: this probably hurts teams like Maryland. Oh yeah, like like 155 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 5: like Mike Loxley has his work cut out from now 156 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 5: because he's got another coach in there who knows how 157 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 5: to recruit the area and gonna make it even harder 158 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 5: for you know, those sort of mid tier, bottom tier, 159 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 5: you know, Big ten conference teams that are trying to 160 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 5: you know, find some of his recruits Rutgers, et cetera. 161 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 5: So there's there's that element of the conversation. I'm gonna 162 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 5: throw this question out there, and I need Jonas to 163 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 5: respond first, because you're too close to the situation LeVar, 164 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 5: and I don't know what if you can, But the 165 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 5: question is, are you surprised Jonah that in Virginia Tech 166 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 5: has found their new head coach in James Franklin before 167 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 5: Penn State found their next head coach Given that, they 168 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 5: kind of obviously made the decision, and it felt like 169 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 5: when they made the decision to fire James Franklin, they 170 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 5: probably had a singular person in mind. It wasn't just like, hey, 171 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 5: let's move on and start anew. Yes. 172 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would have thought that given given the job 173 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 4: and given the unmet expectations and the buyout and I 174 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 4: would have assumed you made a move with the understanding 175 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 4: you at least had a pretty good idea who would 176 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 4: be the next guy in the door. And here we are. 177 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 4: Who's to say they don't why is he hired now? 178 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: I mean there might be a valid reason as to 179 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 2: why he's not hired. 180 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 5: Now, what would be the valid reason? 181 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: I would most likely say the valid reason would be 182 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: to get through the season. That that would be. That 183 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: would be my valid reason. Like you're you're now hitting down. 184 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 5: You're narrowing your pool to coaches who are still coaching. 185 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 5: I don't. 186 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 2: All I'm saying is. 187 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: You allow for Terry Smith to have the opportunity to 188 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: finish out the year with a level of. 189 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: Buy in from. 190 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: And and an opportunity for the players to not feel 191 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: like something is getting brought their way. 192 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: Why didn't they just let James Franklin finish out the year? 193 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: Then it's a great question. 194 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: I think I had the answer to it, But I 195 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: don't know that I had the answer to it. And 196 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to misrepresent myself. Why not in the scenario? 197 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: So that's his show is all about we missrepresentation. 198 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 5: He doesn't want to allow it to saything. I feel 199 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 5: like I can openly say stuff because I'm not a 200 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 5: part of YER. I don't I would not describe their 201 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 5: coaching search as one that had a singular person in mind, 202 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 5: or that in one individual in mind. Maybe they had, 203 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 5: you know, a few people on a short list, but 204 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 5: from what I have been able to ascertain, they have 205 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 5: casted a wider net than I thought following James Franklin's firing, 206 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 5: given some of the conversations that have been had with 207 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 5: prospective candidates, I'll leave at that. 208 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I mean, I mean, and I've talked with. 209 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: Two Okay, I feel good about what you throw out there. 210 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's good perspective. 211 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 5: Well, but I also think things got probably complicated for 212 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 5: a lot of potential candidates when Florida came open. Then 213 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 5: LSU and it's like this whole thing hit. And by 214 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 5: the way, what I find most interesting about the timing 215 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 5: of when firings have taken place this season is October 216 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 5: seventh was like a line of demarcation where if you 217 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 5: made it past that date, you were now under a 218 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 5: different rule. Your players could not transfer immediately. That's how 219 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 5: it worked before October seventh, That's why Oklahoma State had 220 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 5: a bunch of players who went to the transfer portal 221 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 5: because they were grandfather claused into the old rule. And 222 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 5: the old rule was if once your coach was fired, 223 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 5: a thirty day window opened up for any player to 224 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 5: basically leave and enter the transfer portal and go elsewhere. So, 225 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 5: for example, there is a son to someone who works 226 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 5: on the crew of Big Noon Kickoff and he was 227 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 5: grandfather claused into that. So you know, we were kind 228 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 5: of talking about this and he's going through his different visits. 229 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 5: If it was after October seventh, you can't leave. You 230 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 5: either have to wait for the next transfer portal window 231 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 5: or they have to hire the next head coach. And 232 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 5: so now that for example, in the case of Virginia Tech, players, 233 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 5: now that the decision has been made to hire James Franklin, 234 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 5: there will be a fifteen day period where James Franklin 235 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 5: can go in there, he can meet with all the players, 236 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 5: talk to all the players. After that fifteen day period, 237 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 5: there's a five day window where those players can choose 238 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 5: to transfer, hit the transfer portal and go elsewhere. So 239 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 5: the reason why I said that is because I do 240 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 5: think that some teams have been more patient in firing 241 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 5: their head coach, and I also think there's been a 242 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 5: little more hesitancy or maybe patients in hiring the next 243 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 5: guy because they want to make feel like they sure 244 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 5: they've got the right guy. But also they have a 245 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 5: lot of things that are all in the works, that 246 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 5: are together, so when he gets there, he can kind 247 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 5: of hit the ground running a bit with at least 248 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 5: retaining some of the players that are on the ross 249 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 5: they want to retain. Is that the fairest way of 250 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 5: putting it. 251 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: It's a great way of putting it. It's a good way, 252 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: great way, strong way. 253 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. 254 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's something, there's validity to that. I just 255 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: I think you mentioned you hit it when you said 256 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: want to be thorough and in the approach, you don't 257 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: want to leave any stones unturned, and you want to 258 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: make the best decision that you can possibly make and 259 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: be proud about it. 260 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 261 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: I think Pat Craft is very very aware of the 262 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: fact that he was not on the. 263 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: Clock with James Franklin. How real was the Matt rule. 264 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 5: Interest? Q? 265 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: I'm asking me. I was making a point. You want 266 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: to ask me about Matt rule. Matt Rule got an 267 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 2: extension that note Nebraska. I don't know anything about Matt 268 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 2: Rule coming to Penn State. 269 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 5: I would I would say this, it was real enough 270 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 5: where he got an extension at Nebraska. I mean, it's 271 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 5: not like I could sit here and say, hey, hey, 272 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 5: Penn State's looking at me. Guys in Fox Sports Radio 273 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 5: comes and gets me an extension writer or or you know, 274 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 5: gives you a pay bump. There's there's other coaches who 275 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 5: I would say him specifically, you. 276 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: Could go with maybe you could throw one more out there, 277 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: got an extension, you can throw one more and and 278 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: and for what it's worth. I mean you could possibly 279 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: be like, huh, what what was going on on? You know, 280 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Maybe Notre Dame might have not wanted there guy, 281 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: and maybe he might have become a possibility. 282 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 2: You just never know. 283 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: You just never know because this landscape just you don't 284 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: know what's going to happen if they win in pit 285 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: or if they they don't win in pitt. You know, 286 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: with the game they have, I mean, what is that, 287 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: What type of bearing does that have? You don't you 288 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: just don't know. You don't know what directions some universities 289 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: may go in and then somebody comes available that maybe 290 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: might have not have game available that that maybe you 291 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: were interested in, maybe you weren't, who knows, But I 292 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: mean the season, the season kind of unfolds in a 293 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: way where it could give you options that you might 294 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: have not even previously had. 295 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 5: I think, what's gonna be fascinating. We haven't mentioned Lane 296 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 5: Kevin's name yet, and it's worth mentioning because Ole Miss 297 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 5: has given him a deadline. They obviously have the Mississippi 298 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 5: state game, the Egg Bowl, coming up, which is you know, 299 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 5: they're in state robbery. It's one of the biggest games 300 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 5: on the calendar every single year. But I do think 301 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 5: there's a sense of frustration from some folks in Oxford, 302 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 5: and they're probably not wanting to admit this publicly. But 303 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 5: if you're Lane Kiffin and you ultimately want to be 304 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 5: back in Old Miss, you probably already signed the extension 305 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 5: by now, right absolutely so if you look at Florida, 306 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 5: who's courting him, lsu who rumored to have sent a 307 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 5: private jet to Oxford, Mississippi and set it back to 308 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 5: Baton Rouge so his family could go check out his family, 309 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 5: go check out Baton Rouge and see what it's like. 310 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 5: Now I'm hearing that he's gonna end up in Florida, 311 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 5: that it's basically all but a done deal. There's some familiarity, 312 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 5: there's some desire to be in that in Gainesville. We 313 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 5: will see if that comes to fruition, but it does. 314 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 5: You know, look at leaves open an Old miss job, 315 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 5: Like You've got a lot of guys or coaches who 316 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 5: I think are looking saying I'm gonna stay put, to 317 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 5: keep doing what I'm doing even though there's things going on. 318 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 5: Because if Eli Drinkwitz leaves Missouri, that job comes open, 319 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 5: and he's built a nice foundation. If Kevin leaves Old 320 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 5: miss again, same thing. Things are built up for that 321 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 5: next guy with a fan base that's probably pretty ticked 322 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 5: off that he left and wants to replace him with 323 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 5: someone that's going to be able to do what he did, 324 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 5: if not better. So you start looking at the I 325 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 5: don't say the snowball effect or however you want to 326 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 5: describe it, as this thing builds momentum with more and 327 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 5: more coaches who are leaving one place get hired by 328 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 5: the other that are currently coaching somewhere, it's going to 329 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 5: be wild. Like the month of December is going to 330 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 5: be wild. It's getting to the point where now I 331 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 5: would say, we look at the end of the NFL 332 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 5: season with some of the firings and the hirings that come, 333 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 5: you know, come with that, this is like bigger, faster, crazier, 334 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 5: and I just I feel like I'm excited for it. 335 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 5: I mean I shouldn't, because you know, some guys have 336 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 5: gotten fired, but there would be a great opportunity, but 337 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 5: a lot of shifting in college football. 338 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 2: The Florida job better than that, Let's use job. Do 339 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 2: you think. 340 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 5: They're different? I mean, if you look at Florida institutionally, 341 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 5: it's a hard question to answer because I would have said, 342 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 5: I would say LSU is a better job as of 343 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 5: late because their prior head coaches, with the exception of 344 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 5: Brian Kelly, have won national championships. You know ed or 345 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 5: Jaron Les Miles, Nick Saban, they all were able to win. 346 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 5: There's a hotbed of you know, as you heard Lvar say, 347 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 5: there's a hotbed of talent right there. You recruit the state, 348 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 5: you recruit the surrounding states. You don't need much else. 349 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 5: So and by the way, that that was a state 350 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 5: and that was a program that was all in alignment. 351 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 5: I don't know that you could say that about Florida. 352 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 5: Florida from the time urban Meyer left until you know 353 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 5: where they're at now, has this not been able to 354 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 5: find a way of aligning everything together. And maybe this 355 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 5: is that moment, or maybe they can find the head 356 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 5: coach who can do that. But that I think again 357 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 5: hotbed of talent. It's easy to recruit there in Florida. 358 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 5: They have resources too, and you know a little bit 359 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 5: no stadium tax, which plays a small role in all 360 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 5: of that. But I think it's a better job for 361 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 5: the next incoming head coach purely because of what the 362 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 5: governor did. And this is also something that I heard 363 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 5: from some sources of some candidates who are looking at 364 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 5: that situation. They were very put off by. This has 365 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 5: become political, This has become messy. It doesn't feel like 366 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 5: how it did when you know, Nick saban Less Miles. 367 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 2: At o'gon was that was gonna be my next question. 368 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 4: Because of the way the Brian Kelly stuff went on, 369 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 4: it looks like it's a bit of a mess, like 370 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 4: there's a little. 371 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 5: And even trying to recoop and even trying to recoup on, 372 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 5: you know, all the you know, like Tom Marris, who's 373 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 5: one of the better legal minds, gave his opinion on 374 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 5: LSU trying to claw back a portion of Brian Kelly's 375 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 5: severance from the university, which you know, they they tried 376 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 5: to say they didn't fire him, like after he got fired, 377 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 5: they tried to be like, no, we didn't fire yet, 378 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 5: and they're trying to maybe settle for less than the 379 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 5: fifty four million he's owed and use cause. And Tom 380 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 5: mars again, who's who's one of the better legal legal minds, 381 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 5: basically said like this is like never happened and and 382 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 5: and to me, it looks really bad on LSU to 383 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 5: make the decision that you're going to fire a head 384 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 5: coach and you know you have that buyout, but then 385 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 5: not have the money to pay the buyout. It's like, 386 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 5: all right, man, like you're making this place look like 387 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 5: a mess. And the next head coach is looking at saying, well, clearly, 388 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 5: if you don't have money to buy him out, you 389 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 5: probably don't have money to play anything. 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Let's play dodgeball with little Coop. 438 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 9: Grab Little Coop, Grab Little Coop, Grab Little Coop, grab 439 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 9: a little Coop grab. 440 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 2: Throw them over here me next, bring them right over here. 441 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 9: Come on, grab them, throw them, throw it too. 442 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely Russian Roulette every day your men's sport. 443 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 2: I love when Coop sings along. 444 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 3: It is the funnest thing. 445 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, Coop, come. 446 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 9: On, Yeah, come on, Coop. 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I don't know. 473 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 5: Just like that Seinfeld episode with Kramer and the spit, 474 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 5: I think he blames like Keith and Anders or something 475 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,959 Speaker 5: from spitting on him and it like, I don't know, 476 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 5: it went through him. He like, no, no, like it curved. 477 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 5: He was trying to say that it happened and it 478 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 5: curved and hit him. Yeah. 479 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 2: Wow, Well maybe, I mean, what do you maybe it 480 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 2: was sweat? What do you say that it was sweat? 481 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 5: Okay? 482 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: From you know, what you. 483 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 5: Could say is that he didn't spit. You know, sometimes 484 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 5: when guys are they're getting pretty worked up and they've 485 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 5: got a lot of spit kind of like they they're talking, 486 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 5: but yeah, but it comes out. 487 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta tell you It's one of the worst 488 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: things ever when somebody is a spitter when they talk 489 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: and they get all up in your face and they're like, hey, hey, Brady, Hey, 490 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 1: you remember that one time at one play You're like, God. 491 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 5: Is it raining day? 492 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 4: Say it? 493 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: Don't spray it. I want the news, not your weather. 494 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: God Lee showers its sunny day to day? Said nothing 495 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: about showers. 496 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 2: You're stupid man, A No, I just want to know. 497 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 2: I just want to know how he's gonna, you know, 498 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 2: try and argue his point. 499 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: He get a lesser fine or something like that, or 500 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 1: a lesser of a penalty, like Okay, it happened, But 501 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: I didn't really mean to spit. That's why I didn't 502 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: think I spit. I was talking. Spit came out of 503 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: my mouth while I was talking. 504 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 2: Trash. 505 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: Trash talking is like you said, I mean, sometimes spit 506 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: comes out your mouth. I think the damning part of 507 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: it is when you put in slow mo, it's it's 508 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: like it's a it's a like he built. 509 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,959 Speaker 2: That one up. Yeah, that was one projectile. 510 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 5: Yeah, like he. 511 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: You know, he seemed like he might have log eate it. 512 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's possibility, but I would think he's not 513 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: going for innocence. He's just going for a lesser penalty. 514 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 4: I would assume now there was three people that were 515 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 4: going to possibly hear this appeal, either going to be 516 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 4: Derek Brooks, Ramon Foster, or Jordy Nelson. Last I saw 517 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 4: Jordy Nelson was going to be the guy, so receiver. 518 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe some favoritism there, No. 519 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: No, no, they do their jobs, man, They like they 520 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: move like machines. Them dudes, they're not I mean, they 521 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: understand it from a player's perspective, but they're doing their 522 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: just I mean, Derek Brooks, you know, uh, everybody's favorite uncle. Well, 523 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: he overturned the one game suspension for Frankie Luvu, who got. 524 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: A should have been it should have been overturned. Yeah, 525 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 2: I think there wasn't a hip little linebacker favoritism there 526 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 2: on that one. All right, So Jordan's expertise. 527 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 5: You know, you know what's wild about the hip drop. 528 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 5: By the way, we had a tackle in the game 529 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 5: this past weekend, and the only reason it wasn't a 530 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 5: hip drop is because of how the ball carrier fell 531 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 5: like it had all the elements of what would normally 532 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 5: be a hip drop. The defender grabbed the ball carrier 533 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 5: from really like the back of him, and as he 534 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 5: grabbed him and tried to slow him down, he swung 535 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 5: his body and again how they landed was the only 536 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 5: reason it wasn't because he didn't land on the back 537 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 5: of his legs and it wasn't considered a hip drop. 538 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 5: I just I feel like that that rule is so 539 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 5: hard to actually officiate because it's almost retroactic, like you 540 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 5: almost have to it's reactive to a player getting injured 541 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 5: for the way in which that guy's tackled. That looks 542 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 5: like a hip drop. 543 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: You might as well at target to that too. I mean, honestly, 544 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: I've seen more plays where I thought it was targeting 545 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: that wasn't targeting. I've seen more plays where I thought 546 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: a call would have been made on targeting that hasn't 547 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: taken place. And I mean I've seen it's just a 548 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: lot of targeting from ball carriers and defenders. You can't 549 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: call you can't call fouls every play, but you can 550 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: call a foul every play. That is, to me the 551 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: great conundrum of all of this. You can call a 552 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: foul every play. You can call a fifteen yard or 553 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: you can call a spot foul. You can call any 554 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: type of foul, holding, you can call roughing, roughing the 555 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: past or a lot of times like there are plays 556 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: that can every single time and every game that you 557 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: can call a foul. So when you get into calling 558 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: a foul, you can't call a foul at the end 559 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: of the game when it's going to cost the team 560 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: to get especially when it looked the way that it 561 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: looked in that one game in particular, what game was 562 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: that was that Philly Detroit? Yeah, Sunday night. Yeah, like 563 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: that's wild. But again, I don't know. I don't envy 564 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: referees because they have a job to do and they 565 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: will always be wrong to one group of people, always 566 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: will be wrong. 567 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 2: They'll come out on the right side of it. 568 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: Even if you say, well it wasn't egregious, maybe maybe 569 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: it shouldn't have been, but it went in our favor, soay, hey, 570 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: no worries. It's always going to be the other side always, 571 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: and that's a referee is never going to come out 572 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: clean in the game. 573 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 2: Ever. 574 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: You're never going to have a clean game where you 575 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: don't say the referees had some type of part in 576 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: the game. 577 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 2: It's part of it. 578 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: It's an age old conversation, and I find it interesting 579 00:31:58,640 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: because we. 580 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 2: All ways go for it, we always. 581 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 5: Talk about it. 582 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: Now in this case in particular, it's very cut and 583 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: dry or very wet and wet. He's spent, and maybe 584 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: he's trying to get a lesser of a penalty, you know, 585 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: because that that could be a very very like costly, 586 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: a very expensive suspension, and I think that's what he's 587 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: more focused on. You're not trying to get out of 588 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: the way of it being spit. The best thing you 589 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: could do with Jordie is saying, look, it did come out, 590 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: but this is what was happening, this is why it 591 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: came out, and. 592 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 2: Is this is this fine? 593 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: Really like, Okay, you're suspending me a game, okay, but 594 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: are you suspending me without pay? Are you suspending me 595 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: and it's a fine of what on top of that? 596 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if that was released or not what 597 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,959 Speaker 1: the penalty is, but I would assume that's what. 598 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 2: He's just gonna miss a game check and I think 599 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: it's just an five hundred grand. 600 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 5: There you go. 601 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 2: That's worth, that's worth, that's worth appealing, But you're not 602 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 2: going to win. What's what? What's the argument he's spit 603 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 2: on the guy. You can clearly see it. He might 604 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 2: have any argument. 605 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 5: He didn't the. 606 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 2: Leak he didn't. It wasn't he didn't drool. It wasn't 607 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 2: a drool. He spit on him. And I guess he's 608 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 2: got this thing too. I mean it was a hawk to. 609 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 5: It was. 610 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 2: She would be proud. It definitely was a hawk to. 611 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 4: But I saw that that too, and reading about it, 612 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 4: they were saying that Jamar Chase has got this move 613 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 4: as well. To remember when the thing was snatching chains 614 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 4: where somebody was that two burdens the. 615 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 2: Weather channel. So Jamar Chase has this thing. You remember 616 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: when it was snatching the chain off somebody that was 617 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 2: so apparently his thing is he rips mouth Is that 618 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 2: a key to leave that did that? Yeah, Jamar Chase's 619 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 2: thing is he rips mouthpieces off like he did that. 620 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 5: To help me understand what is with the double mouthpiece deal? 621 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 5: I see now like high school kids, college kids, they'll 622 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 5: have one dangling from their face mask. Ye, then they 623 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 5: have one that's put into the top of their helmet 624 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 5: and it's like flop, It's flopping around. I'm like, why 625 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 5: is this? Why is this dude to have a just 626 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 5: a random mouthpieces like a hood ornament, swag on the 627 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 5: top of his helmet, swagie sweat. 628 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 2: Different, Bro, these dudes are different so much. 629 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 1: These I can't, I don't. Okay, They're touched, bro. That's 630 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: the only way to explain it. It's the only way 631 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: you can make sense of it. They touched like the 632 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: whole pool, the whole pool in their pants all the 633 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: way up like some guys receivers used to do it 634 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: back in the day because you didn't have to cover 635 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: your knees when I play. Now you gotta cover them 636 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,959 Speaker 1: now somewhat. But now you don't have to cover them now. 637 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: I guess they've been really relaxed on on rules of 638 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: how you wear your uniform. That's a real deal, bro, 639 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: And I just you know, to me, these guys have 640 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: been as creative as they possibly can. The jewelry has 641 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 1: gotten like insanely pronounced. I mean, you turn around, everybody's 642 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: got a chain that's that's on during the game. I 643 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,760 Speaker 1: tried wearing ear rings one time and they were real 644 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: and two and a half car diamonds that were screw 645 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: INDs came out. They came out. Never did it again. 646 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: I was like this is. I took my helmet off, 647 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: my ear ring was missing. I was like, this is 648 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 1: the dumbest thing I've ever done in my life. Dumb, 649 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 1: super dumb. Now I start thinking, maybe I need to 650 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: get me a metal detector and just walk this this. 651 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: Maybe somebody does walk that field with a metal detector. 652 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: I mean, the amount of money that they would find 653 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: in that field would be crazy. In the practice field alone. 654 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 5: To get one of those old perverts who's walking on 655 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 5: the beach. 656 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but he's really looking at Yeah, it's a 657 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: good move. 658 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 2: I mean it's an age old move. 659 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 5: You would say that given out cheap you are, well, 660 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 5: you actually might find yeah, and he might actually find like, 661 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 5: you know, some change or you know whatever else. 662 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 9: That's hey, Papa, what did you find, Papa, gold son gold. 663 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 2: Uh, something worth more than pesos. I don't understand your 664 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 2: your hate, your hatred towards your kid. There's no hatred 665 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 2: towards my kid. I just wanted to know that there's 666 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 2: you know, there's values, those there's levels of currency. 667 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 4: And you know, if you bring a metal detector out 668 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 4: on the beach and you're looking at ass and you 669 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 4: find a couple of bucks, everybody goes home happy. 670 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: Question is if some way, somehow your metal detector gets 671 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: close to one of them those those things you were 672 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: talking about, does the metal detector go off? I mean 673 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 1: if it, that's a whole another that would be called 674 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: that'd be called uh the pins. 675 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure was. You'd be making sure your your butt 676 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 2: health is good. It would be pretty spicy, oh for sure. 677 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 678 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: And speaking of pretty spicy, I got to tell you something, 679 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: uh about it. It's Louisiana hot sauce that that Jonas 680 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: is talking about. Well, and if you want that peppery 681 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 1: pepper taste, you want to taste it really good. Get 682 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: some original Louisiana Hot sauce and you know what, it'll 683 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 1: hit a tailgate food part or the party of the 684 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: food hit it very nicely. It'll be great. It's hand crafted. 685 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 1: The flavor is amazing. Make sure you get original Louisiana 686 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: hot sauce. That's Louisiana hot. Make sure you buy you something. 687 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 4: Hell yeah, two pros and a cup of Joe. Here 688 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 4: on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox 689 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 4: with you coming up next here though, there's a team 690 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 4: in the NFL who's like, I know, it'll fix the issue. 691 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 4: We'll go with another guy at quarterback. We'll get into 692 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 4: that for you right here on SR. 693 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 694 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 695 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 3: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 696 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 3: listen live. 697 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 2: Minute no on top of the world. Hey man, did 698 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 2: you mess with my volume? Mama? I'm sorry? Sorry about that? 699 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,280 Speaker 2: Hey bro? Something doing the break? 700 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: Hey man. One thing you don't do you don't touch it. 701 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,399 Speaker 1: You don't touch a dude's like workspace. 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The crown is yours. 714 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 4: So you guys, remember a few weeks back when the 715 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 4: Jets were getting ready to name Tyrod Taylor is the 716 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 4: new starting quarterback because of Justin field struggles, Woody Johnson 717 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 4: aired out Justin Fields publicly, and then they went out 718 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 4: and they won that game against the awful Cincinnati defense 719 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 4: and it turned out well, the reason they didn't go 720 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 4: to Tyrod Taylor's because Tyrod Taylor was actually injured, so 721 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:29,479 Speaker 4: they couldn't go to Tyrod Taylor. Well, better late than ever, 722 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 4: Tyrod Taylor is your new starting. 723 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 2: Quarterback in New York for the Jets. So that's going 724 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 2: to It's going to. 725 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: Him. 726 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 2: That's a I don't know. There's a lot of bad 727 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 2: football in that building between the Jets. 728 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 5: I think the tough part is and again, it's not 729 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:55,320 Speaker 5: your money, so what do you care. Justin Fields was 730 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,800 Speaker 5: given a two year, forty million dollar contract, thirty million 731 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 5: which was guaranteed. Go for him if you feel like 732 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 5: they're moving on from him after this season or if 733 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 5: he's not the long term. Answer kind of feels like 734 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 5: you threw thirty million down the drain. But I will 735 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 5: say this in defense of Justin fields. This is just 736 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 5: not an environment conducive of a quarterback continuing to grow. 737 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 5: You know, he hasn't played a ton of football in 738 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 5: his career. I think he's now, he's getting to the 739 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,359 Speaker 5: point now where you have a pretty good idea of 740 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 5: what he is right after playing for Chicago and Pittsburgh 741 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 5: and the Jets. But it's sad because there's elements of 742 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 5: his game that, like, it's hard to develop when you're 743 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 5: learning new systems, new offenses. That's what he had in Chicago, 744 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 5: Pittsburgh and the Jets, and I don't know he's ever 745 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 5: gonna get that chance. So it feels like they threw 746 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 5: thirty million dollars down the drain. 747 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 2: They didn't throw it down the drain. They threw it 748 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 2: into his bank account. 749 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 10: Than that that drain led to a bank account. Yeah, 750 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 10: it's definitely got to be a rap for him. I mean, 751 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 10: unless something like the Sam Darnold phenomenon takes place with 752 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 10: him where he has the opportunity to go play for 753 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 10: somebody who can actually coach. 754 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 1: And I mean even then, damn, he's not the offensive coordinator. 755 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: He's a defensive guy. I just you know, it's a 756 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 1: bad situation. But hey, He did get thirty million as 757 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,720 Speaker 1: a door prize. You know that's fine, A parting gift,