1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: Welcome everybody. Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 2: Sexton Show kicks off. 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Now. 6 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 2: It is big, it is beautiful, and it is now law. 7 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: The Big Beautiful Bill has just moments ago passed in 8 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 2: the United States. Sent Okay, I know Trump has to 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 2: sign it, but you know it's happening. Trump's going to 10 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: sign this big beautiful bill. So the big beautiful Bill 11 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: has gone through. It will be on the President's desk. 12 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: This is huge. 13 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: It is huge. 14 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 2: We will get into some of the final items that 15 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: were in this. We will discuss some of the no votes. 16 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: There were some no votes. We'll also talk about how 17 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: Elon Musk, formerly of DOGE fame pretty unhappy with the 18 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: situation here of the five trillion dollar debt ceiling rays. 19 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: I think there's. 20 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: Still potentially bucked a little bit of drama because I 21 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: think the House will now have to come back and 22 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: agree to something. 23 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 2: Side I got ahead of myself there too excited, too excited, 24 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: So there will there will be some drama that's in reconciling. 25 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 2: It's going to go through the House has already passed it. 26 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: It's going to go through. But thank you for the yeah. 27 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: So early for me for the nerdy edition where there 28 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: will continue to be drama. 29 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: First, how is that going to take though? 30 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, I I I just we have not 31 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: spent a ton of time on the minute by minute 32 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: because we knew that this was going to pass and 33 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: it will pass on some level. Uh, but they still 34 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: have some maneuvering. I think Trump wants it by July fourth, right, 35 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: is the ideal day that he would sign it, which 36 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: is Friday, And so I imagine that they are hoping 37 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: that the House will sign off on the changes made 38 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: by the Senate at some point in time in the 39 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: next several days. But that's the timeframe. Uh so that 40 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: is the last drama to be had before this thing 41 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: is officially signed get an underway, which it's. 42 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: Not gonna mean. It's not gonna mean drama. I mean 43 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: they're gonna you know what I mean, Like, come on, 44 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: what's the drama gonna be, clay Someone's really the Republicans 45 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: aren't going to actually do the thing that they've already 46 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 2: said they were gonna do. I don't I don't see it, 47 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: but yes, procedurally speaking, they have to reconcile it. 48 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 3: Right. 49 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: So the House, as the set of the Senate, says, 50 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 2: how's that. Okay, So let's get into what is in 51 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: the big beautiful bill, which I do believe is its 52 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: official is its official name. I'm just seeing now. I 53 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: think it happened so recently, Clay, that all the the 54 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 2: news sites live and in real time here are still updating. 55 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,399 Speaker 1: Past as we came on the air like that is, yes, 56 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: the second absolute latest breaking news. 57 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: That's why I got all excited. Okay, so it was 58 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 2: happening in real time. We got to open the show with, ah, 59 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 2: it has past. The said it fifty one fifty, and 60 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: JD Vance had to step in to uh write, Jade Vance, 61 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: I'm reading this in real time because it just happened. 62 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: Just you understand, this wasn't like an hour. What happened 63 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 2: seconds or minutes ago. Three Republicans ran Paul of Kentucky, 64 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 2: Tom Tillis of North Carolina, not running next year. Susan 65 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: Collins of Maine joined Democrats to vote against the bill. 66 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: Paul opposed the legislation's five trillion dollars debtlimit, et cetera. Okay, 67 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: so Susan Collins not a surprise, Ran Paul being Ran Paul, 68 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: Trump's probably gonna have some truths for him that are 69 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: not very nice. And Tom tillis here. Lisa Murkowski was 70 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: the final piece. She backed the bill after discussions with 71 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: Thune twenty four hours of motions and amendments. Senate Republican 72 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: leaders altered the bill right up to the final moments. 73 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: So this was this was down to the wire, everyone 74 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: to get the things they wanted to get into in here. 75 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: Hundreds of billions for border security, national defense, increased budget 76 00:03:54,320 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: deficit by about three point three trillion through twenty thirty four. Yeah, 77 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: look it's I'll tell you, the White House is very 78 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: excited about this. I think the economy is going to 79 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: look really good as a result of this, or rather, 80 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: there's going to be a lot of good things that happened. Clay, 81 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: we knew it would get through. Yeah, tie breaking vote 82 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: from JD. Van So it was a close run thing here. 83 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 2: We knew it would get through. It's getting through now. Okay, 84 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: the House reconciles it on their end. What are your 85 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 2: thoughts as we sit here and bask in the glow 86 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: of MAGA another win up on the board. 87 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: So I think the big question is going to be 88 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: how fast can the economy grow? So, now that this 89 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: bill is done, the ability to grow the economy is 90 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: how we end up keeping from having to massively increase 91 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: the overall debt, and so that is my biggest question. 92 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: Can we get this economy moving at three percent growth 93 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: doesn't sound found outrageous to me, but it is better 94 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: than we have been growing the economy over the past 95 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: decade or so fifteen years on average, And so to me, 96 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: the biggest question out there is how fast can we 97 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: grow the economy? To me, the secondary question on this 98 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: is can we get the FED to lower interest rates? 99 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: Our interest rates are about two percent above where the 100 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: EU is right now at four point two five four 101 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: point five. You guys can correct me in the studio 102 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: if I get the percentages wrong. I think the numbers 103 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: need to be around two and a half frankly where 104 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: the EU is. If that were to happen, then mortgage 105 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,559 Speaker 1: rates and theory are going to come back. That would 106 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: unlock the housing market, which is I think the most 107 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: frozen aspect of the American economy right now. So many 108 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: of you got the two and a half or three 109 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: percent fifteen and thirty year mortgages. Congrats, but it's been 110 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: several years and we accelerated those so rapidly. Ye, lots 111 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: of people are unwilling to sell their homes or move 112 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: despite changing life circumstances because the difference between a two 113 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: and a half and a three and a seven percent 114 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: mortgage rate is so massively substantial. If that starts to 115 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: get unfrozen, then I think a lot of the other 116 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: aspects of the economy will start to fire on all cylinders. 117 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 2: So the House Freedom Caucus, I was asking, who's going 118 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: to cause drama here? I was all excited, like, Okay, 119 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 2: this is finally happening. We're looking at a holiday coming 120 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: up here, a great holiday weekend. Country's kicking ass. Things 121 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: going really well. House Freedom Caucus says, and this is 122 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 2: as of the last twenty four hours. House budget framework 123 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: was clear. No new deficit spending in the One Big 124 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 2: Beautiful Bill. The Senates version adds six hundred and fifty 125 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 2: one billion to the deficit, and that's before interest costs, 126 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: which nearly double the total. That's not fiscal responsibility, that's 127 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: not what we agreed to. The Senate must make major 128 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 2: changes and should at least be in the ballpark of 129 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: compliance with the House Budget Framework. H Are they really 130 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 2: going to do this? Are they going to do this? 131 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be some drama associated with this, 132 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: and I think ultimately everybody if. 133 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: The drama is just so they get attention and then 134 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: they let this go through, they're just being annoying. 135 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say this. 136 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 2: Because we've already we've already had this discussion. 137 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: I get it. This is the best you're gonna get. 138 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: And there's people out there who are gonna say, Look, 139 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: Rand Paul's right about the deficit. I think he is. 140 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: Chip chip Roy is right about the deficit. I think 141 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: he is. This is the best bill that's going to 142 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: pass and you just saw. I have yet to see 143 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: anyone come up with a bill that could get passage 144 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: in the Senate and the House and do as much 145 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: of this bill does. Politics is the art of the possible. 146 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: I get people out there that are upset about the debt, 147 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: the deficit. I am Look. The reality is nobody wants 148 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: to address the fact that entitlement spending, Social Security, and 149 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: medicare make it virtually impossible to largely restrict the size 150 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: of the federal government. And as soon as you mentioned that, 151 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: we get flooded and every politician does with Hey, that 152 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: money is mine, I want it back. And so the 153 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: structural issues we have at play here, and this is 154 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: a challenge, and I don't want to be the want 155 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: walk guy, but the structural issues we have in play 156 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: is there are way more older people now than there 157 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: are younger people in many advanced countries in the world, 158 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: and entitle what programs are predicated on there being way 159 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: more younger people than there are older people. And if 160 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: you are around our age, the math doesn't add up 161 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: for us to get the Social Security dollars back that 162 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: we put in. And that's just the reality, without adjusting 163 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: based on retirement ages, based on just looking at population tables, 164 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: I presume that I'm going to get virtually nothing from 165 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: Social Security. That's me. I'm forty six. You know, people 166 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: can start taking Social Security. I think it's sixty two, 167 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: so I'm not that far away. Well, I don't think 168 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: it's going to be there. This is why I find 169 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: the whole thing frustrating. 170 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: And I appreciate that Rand Paul wants to Senator Paul 171 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 2: wants to have his voice heard on this, and mathematically 172 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 2: he's right, but politically he's wrong because no one's going 173 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: to do anything about this right now, and there's no 174 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: willingness among the American people, even people who say they 175 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: want to tackle the debt to do it. It's like 176 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: having a debt ceiling fight. It's a fake fight because 177 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: we always raise the debt ceiling, and then if they default, 178 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: they don't really Rather there's discussion about default, they're not 179 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 2: really going to default. So it just becomes tiresome and 180 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: you lose. It's the boy who cried wolf. You lose 181 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 2: public interest, and I think that, yeah, until people want 182 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: to talk about entitlements just to keep spending the money 183 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 2: we have to spend to achieve the priorities of the 184 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 2: Republican Party. If we don't have a secure border and 185 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 2: we don't deal with the illegal immigration issue, we Medicare 186 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: and social security in thirty years is going to be 187 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: the least of our problems because we're not gonna have 188 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: a country. More so, the hundreds of billions of dollars 189 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: that are going toward border security and the deportation efforts 190 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: of the illegals who pile them. Under Biden, it's absolutely essential. 191 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: A lot of the things that are covered in the 192 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 2: big beautiful bill are going to be I believe rocket 193 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: fuel for the economy. Growth is also really important. Remember 194 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: nobody's factoring in that Trump wasn't I should say, factoring 195 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: in Trump's tariffs into financial and fiscal matters for the country. 196 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 2: It's already one hundred and twenty billion dollars and it's 197 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: just getting going. So you know, there are other pathways 198 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: maybe that could be considered here that might make the 199 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 2: situation better. Now that I mean I did, I'll say, 200 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 2: I know that Trump had to sign it, sol I've forgotten. 201 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: Now the House has to reconcile on their side for 202 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 2: a second, and I think they're just gonna do what 203 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 2: they did. We're gonna get a bunch of windy speeches 204 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 2: about the debt, the debt, the debt, and then they're 205 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: gonna and then they're gonna vote for it. I don't 206 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: understand what's We all get it. We all understand there's 207 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: nothing else to be said until until you want to 208 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 2: deal with entitlements. Everybody, you don't want to deal with 209 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: the debt. End of story, full stop, end of conversation. 210 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: And nobody wants to deal with entitlement. So let's just 211 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: do what we can to achieve the agenda we've got 212 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 2: while Trump's running things. 213 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: I think that there's going to be a recognition that 214 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: entitlement spending is out of control and everybody's gonna have 215 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: to get their benefits cut. And we should have we 216 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: should have a real conversation about Social Security and the 217 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: fact that it's actually not a very good deal and 218 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: most Americans just don't really look into it because it's 219 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: been established for a long time. The government takes your money, 220 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: they give you a three percent return roughly on it, 221 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: and if you die, they'll never get it. You know 222 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: that this is all falling on deaf ears. People love 223 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: their people love social Security, and you know what the 224 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: problem is, Clay, the lunatic communists who are certainly right 225 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: now sitting around a lot of them praising the Mom 226 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: Donnie wing of the Democrat Party. They're not going to 227 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: get into what you're talking about. They're just gonna tell 228 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: people bull. 229 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: They're taking your social Security, and then you lose, and 230 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: then the communists are in charge and then they ruin everything. 231 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 2: So this is true is the political reality of America 232 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: right now. And Trump sees it, and I that's why 233 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 2: I have my patience for this thing and my patients 234 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: even for beyond. Yeah, of course, hear it out. Make 235 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: the case, tell everybody the numbers. But standing in the 236 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: way of the Trump agenda because you say that you're 237 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: not getting the cuts you want. You're not getting the cuts. Okay, 238 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: it's not happening. You're you're not You're not actually going 239 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 2: to deal with the dead. It's thirty seven trillion dollars. 240 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 2: It's not happening. 241 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: How many people do you think even understands for security? 242 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 1: What percentage of the American population? 243 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 2: I mean, they know that they get money when they're 244 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: when they're older, and they needed I mean, that's all 245 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: they care to know. 246 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: But the fact that it's an awful deal. And if 247 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: you got to keep your own money and you just 248 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: put it in index funds, you. 249 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: Would people don't trust themselves. People don't They would spend it. 250 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 2: People would spend it on a jet ski and then 251 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: they'd say, oh, but I need help now. And you 252 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: know this is the this is the problem. People want. 253 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 2: Everybody wants somebody else to pay for their stuff. Realizing 254 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: that they're the ones paying for the stuff. They think 255 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: is coming from other people. 256 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: I think the biggest challenge is it's so embedded now 257 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: that most people don't even examine the underlying concept, which 258 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: is basically a big pyramid scheme, and it's predicated on 259 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 1: there always being way more young people than there are 260 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: old people. And we're not in that era anymore. 261 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 2: Clay, the average person pays in to medicare less than 262 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: half of what they take out of Medicare in terms 263 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: of the actual cost of their care. 264 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: But if you tell. 265 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 2: Anybody that you're gonna change Medicare, you know what they say, 266 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 2: I paid for that. It's not welfare, it's an entitlement. 267 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: I've paid for it. I deserve it. Okay, Well, if 268 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 2: I give you money for one ice cream cone, but 269 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 2: you keep giving me two ice cream cones, you're going 270 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 2: to run out of ice cream cones. Nobody wants to 271 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: hear it. And honestly, I'm excited about the border. I'm 272 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 2: excited about saving the country. I'm excited about the Trump 273 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 2: agenda being funded. You know, I'm with Stephen Miller on 274 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: this stuff. Man, Like, we got to save the country now, 275 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 2: so we'll figure out the debt later. When people want 276 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: to have big boy conversations about it. They don't actually 277 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: the American poser want to have the conversation. 278 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: The answer then becomes, the growth rate is everything, yep, 279 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: because the growth rate of the country is what can 280 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: turn this into a net positive bill. So if you 281 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: are optimistic on AI, if you want to unleash individual 282 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: American meritocracy, if we ever got the country growing at 283 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: four percent again, all of these issues vanish basically, right 284 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: a four percent a year, four percent a year, four 285 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: percent a year. We're growing at like one point five 286 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: percent a year, one point eight percent a year. The 287 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: overall growth rate of the American economy is the key. 288 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: If overall spending is not going to be addressed, and 289 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: there doesn't seem to be a political will unfortunately, as 290 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: you and I believe there should be. If you look 291 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: at just the basic books, the political will isn't there 292 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: to address the spending, and so we live in match. 293 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 2: You to Understandercent, it's not convincing Republicans to tackle the debt. 294 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: It's dealing with the fact that Democrats will call you heartless, 295 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: you know, ruthless, throwing old ladies off their Medicare and 296 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: taking away social Security from hardworking Americans so they can 297 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: seize power and act like communist maniacs. That's the problem. 298 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: So this is it's not just like we're having a 299 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: talk on our side. 300 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: And also the concept of cut, which the media I 301 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: think does a poor job of slowing the rate of growth, 302 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: is not a cut. It's still a growth. But they 303 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: have managed to create this idea, well, we're going to 304 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: dial back the growth of the of the of the 305 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: overall spending, and that is seen as a cut. Oh 306 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: you're cutting spinning, No, spinning, still growing, it's just not 307 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: growing at the same rate. And honestly, I think a 308 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: lot of this is just communication failure. I don't think 309 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: people know the details. I think a lot of people 310 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: don't care to know the details. 311 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 2: Spoiler alert. It's going to pass and Trump's gonna end 312 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 2: up signing it, and everyone who's chirping about this from 313 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: the Congress in the meantime is going to go along 314 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: with what's basically there. Just throw it out there for everybody. 315 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 2: But the debt is not being dealt with, that is 316 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 2: for sure. And that is why the Bricks conference is 317 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: so interesting. It's going on next week right around this 318 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: time for zill Russia, India, China. You know what they're 319 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 2: trying to do, get off the dollar as the world's 320 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: reserve currency. Why does that matter, Well, that would be 321 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 2: a huge lifestyle change for all Americans if that happens, 322 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: and as it happens over time, it means that we 323 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: can't fund the things that we fund right now with 324 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 2: money printing the same way because other countries aren't going 325 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 2: to buy our debt and we can't just print our 326 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 2: way out of whatever our problems are. This is why 327 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: you need to take action now and not everything can 328 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: be solved by this Trump administration. The debt is not 329 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 2: going to go away in the next four years. Try gold, 330 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: my friends. Protect your Ira or four oh one k 331 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: from the fallout of the money printing reality from the 332 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 2: inflation that's going to continue. With the Birch Gold Group's help, 333 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 2: you can diversify into gold, I mean actual physical gold. 334 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: You could also transition an ira or four to one 335 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: k into a goal ira. Birch Gold is the best 336 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: at this. This is who you should go with. 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It is not a swamp in the 374 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 2: sense that people think of is fresh water is actually 375 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 2: quite clean. The aquifer there provides drinking water for those 376 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 2: of us down here in South Florida. Not home to 377 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 2: a lot of flamingos, despite what you may think or 378 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 2: may have said recently, but a lot of alligators, that 379 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: is for sure. And I'm surprised I didn't get lit 380 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 2: up on this one, Clay, because you brought up the 381 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 2: crocodile issue before. Yes, there are, it's the North American crocodile. 382 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: So there are crocodiles here, Yes, there are not that 383 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 2: many of them, but there are crocodiles in Florida. It 384 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 2: is a it is a particular type, the salt water crocodile, 385 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 2: even though the North American crocodile can go in salt water. 386 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: The saltwater crocodile refers to the very large one in Australia. 387 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: But the most dangerous is, in fact, the nile crocodile 388 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 2: when it comes to number of people killed. Now that 389 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: maybe not just the crocodile, maybe proximity to people in 390 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 2: certain countries. Anyway, that's have we gotten into our crocodilions? 391 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: Enough? Are we? Are we good? 392 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 3: Now? 393 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: I having been to Australia, I will say this, how 394 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: unfair is it that in Australia you have to be 395 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: concerned about crocodiles and sharks when you actually get in 396 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: the water at the beach. Doesn't it seem a little 397 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: bit unfair that you could be I think saltwater crocodiles 398 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: kill way more people in Australia than sharks do, but 399 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: it seems very unfair. Have you've seen some of those 400 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: videos of the saltwater crocodiles like just off the shore 401 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: in Australia where you can't even see them at all, 402 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean it seems I just think it 403 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: seems unfair to think that you could be attacked by 404 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: a crocodile while walking along the beach, which can't happen 405 00:20:59,640 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: in Austin. 406 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 2: Australia has recorded a total of forty four fatal fatal 407 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 2: crocodile attacks, so that's officially speaking. So it's it's usually 408 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: like a couple of year, I think is what they get, 409 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 2: one or two a year. It's a rough way to go. 410 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: So why are we talking about this, Well, because the 411 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: President we agree on it's a rough way to get 412 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: it's a rough way to go. 413 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 2: You don't want, you know, they get into the death role. 414 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 2: They grab you, they spin you drown, you're being eaten. 415 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 2: It's not good. It's an unpleasant way to go. Uh, 416 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: the President's talking about this. This is We're not just 417 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: turning this into an episode of Wild Kingdom. 418 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: For no reason. 419 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 2: President Trump came down here to the Great State of Florida. 420 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 2: In gosh, you know, I'm not that good at the 421 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: Florida pronunciations. Yet I have to admit there's some funky ones, Chipee, 422 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: is that right? Guys? I live here, but I don't 423 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 2: know all of the there's some there's some tough, tough 424 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 2: ways to I should just have Clay read them. Clay, 425 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 2: what do you think, ochipe One of the odds that 426 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to correctly pronounce anything on this show, well, 427 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: at least then the pronunciation police will come for you. 428 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 2: Trump at Alligator Alcatraz here he is cut to play it. 429 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 3: It's nice and the job they've done is fantastic. And 430 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 3: this is what you did. And Ron worked beauty play 431 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 3: with Christie and rob the people a homeland security and 432 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: he got it done. 433 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 2: Eight days of the new facility. Kind of heard it there. 434 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 2: He's saying, they set up It's fantastic. It happened very quickly. 435 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 2: They've got this thing going. Uh, eight days this facility 436 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 2: was up and running. So what they're saying is they're 437 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: gonna be able to hold they're gonna be able to 438 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 2: detain people in this it's uh, it's like an airstrip. 439 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 2: I've seen video of it. The Attorney general here, Attorney 440 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 2: General Uth Meyer did a video of this and this 441 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,719 Speaker 2: way people can be taken right there detained, processed, and removed, 442 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 2: and a lot of them would be removed to countries 443 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 2: south of the United States. So South Florida is a 444 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 2: pretty convenient place to stage these these deportations from. And 445 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 2: Trump is going all in on this one. Clay He's 446 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 2: he showed up today to talk about it. He said, 447 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: this has cut six. He said, Uh, whatever you do 448 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: if you escape alligator Alcatraz, don't run in a straight 449 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 2: line alligator alfacratic. 450 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 3: Well, the idea that it doesn't another great, they don't 451 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 3: get any fill here or I guess that's the concept. 452 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: This is not a nice business. I guess that's the 453 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 2: concept that you you know, the snakes are fast, but. 454 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 3: Alligators but wilding to teach them how to run away. 455 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: From an alligator? 456 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 3: Okay, because they escaped prison, how to run away? 457 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 2: Don't run in a state line look like this, and 458 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 2: you know what, your chances go off for about one percent. Okay, 459 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 2: that's not a good thing. 460 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: This is true. Do you know, Bucket, I've always wondered 461 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: about this. They say that you need to run because 462 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: alligators have great straight line speed, right, do you know this. 463 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: I've done the research. 464 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 2: They're much they're much faster on land than people think 465 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 2: they are because they assume they're mostly u water, you know, aquatic. 466 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 1: So if you don't run in a straight line, your 467 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: odds are better because the alligator doesn't shift and change 468 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: direction very well. Here's the problem. If you run in 469 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: a diagonal, eventually you run back into the alligator. No 470 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: one ever have you thought about this, Like, if you 471 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: just run in zigzags, eventually you cross right back in 472 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: front of the alligator. What am I missing here? You're 473 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: hoping that the alligator is going to follow you on 474 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: the zigzags. The problem is if the alligator just keeps 475 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: running straight, you run right back into the alligator. So 476 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: I don't even under really understand the zigzag idea. You 477 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying, Like, if the alligator just stays 478 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: committed to his line, you just run right back into him. 479 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: But that's what they tell you to do. 480 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't think the zigzag maneuver. First 481 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 2: of all, if you try to zigzag, you might zag 482 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 2: when you should zee. 483 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, like right into the alligator. Like, 484 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: if the alligator stays committed to his line, he's gonna 485 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: eat you. No, I don't. 486 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 2: I think you just run as fast as you can 487 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 2: if you're on land, but they're not gonna They're really 488 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 2: not going to chase you on land. Uh. What's dangerous 489 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 2: for people is when you are at the water's edge, 490 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 2: and that's where they'll do. You know, their their predatory behavior. 491 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 2: So if you're a small per, if you're a if 492 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 2: you're a pet or a kid, you know, if you're 493 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: a smaller person or sometimes elderly people. Unfortunately, what's happened 494 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 2: here in Florida, there have been a few fatalities in 495 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 2: the last few years, elderly people with a dog. The 496 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 2: alligator actually goes after their small dog and then they 497 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 2: try to defend the dog, and then the alligator goes 498 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 2: after the elderly person. That has happened, right, So if 499 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: you're an able bodied adult human on land, you're you're you're. 500 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: In pretty good shape with a gator. 501 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 2: Uh, you definitely don't want to be I think someone 502 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 2: actually just was in a canoe and got flipped over 503 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 2: and killed you an alligator recently. 504 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: That just happened. 505 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 2: So yeah, you don't want it. You don't want that 506 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 2: to happen either. That's very rare though, that was a 507 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 2: very big gator too, that was like a ten footer. Yeah, 508 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 2: the alligator Alcatraz. We said on this program, Trump is 509 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: gonna love this. 510 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: We know that Trump wanted to bring back Alcatraz, but 511 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: we knew that he would absolutely love this idea. And 512 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: it actually does make a lot of sense because the 513 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: initial idea behind Alcatraz was you spend less on having 514 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: to build walls and everything else because if somebody gets out, 515 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: they're done. For the idea that you're going to flee 516 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: through the swamp and get back to some form of 517 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: safety virtually zero, virtually zero percent chance of you being 518 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: able to escape and be safe, which means that your 519 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: requirement in terms of building walls and everything else is 520 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: actually diminished substantially. And I knew that he would love 521 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: the concept of the alligator Alcatraz. And I give credit 522 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: to the state of Florida for coming up with this 523 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: idea because nobody wants to try to swim across a 524 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: swamp to get away from anything. Even if your odds 525 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: of getting attacked by the alligator are low, your odds 526 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: of fleeing through the everglades are virtually non existent. 527 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 2: Safely in daylight. I'm just gonna say this. You know 528 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 2: you're you're probably gonna be okay getting away from the 529 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 2: get there. They're more nocturnal hunters nighttime. If your chest 530 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: deep in the Everglades, I wouldn't like that. I wouldn't 531 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: you know if you're. 532 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: Having the challenge is you don't really know because of 533 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: the sawgrass, where land is or how reliable it is 534 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: to be land. Right, So, in addition to the fact 535 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: that you're gonna have to constantly be wading through water, 536 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: it's gonna be hot, there's gonna be a lot of mosquitoes, 537 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of those pythons and anacondas. Now, 538 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: the challenge is everything that can live lives in the Everglades, right. 539 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: Florida is so hospitable to virtually all animal life that nowadays, 540 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: like you don't even know what you're gonna run into 541 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: some of those anacondas that they now have into pythons, pythons. 542 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,479 Speaker 1: I think there are anacondas now, too, aren't there. 543 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 2: I'll check. 544 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. 545 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 2: I don't want to get anything wrong Florida. People will 546 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: light me up sam a fake flat. 547 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: I think basically, if you can have an animal and 548 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: it has you know, they say Hurricane Andrew is what 549 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: initially it was an android. 550 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: There have been there have been sightings of pet green 551 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 2: ana condas that have been released into the I mean, 552 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: so yes, they're an introduced. But this is a little 553 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 2: bit like are there alligators in Harlem? No, but there 554 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 2: was a guy with an alligator in Harlem, New York, 555 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,239 Speaker 2: like a long time ago, because he had it as 556 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: a pet. Right, it's a real story. There's a guy 557 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: with like I think he had an ocelot, an alligator, 558 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: like a bunch of things. So you know that can happen. 559 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: It's so hospitable that if you release the pet, it 560 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: will survive. And so yeah, there are anacondas there. Certainly 561 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: there's tons of pythons, and the pythons have reproduced to 562 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: such an extent that they have huge python searches. Now, 563 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: your odds are getting out of the anaconda of the 564 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: alligator Alcatraz virtually zero. 565 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: Well, also, I mean what if your options are make 566 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 2: a run for it for alligator Alcatraz because you're an 567 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 2: illegal who's going to get sent back to your country, 568 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 2: make a run for it in this in this water 569 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 2: which does have a lot of gators, or just get 570 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: sent home to wherever and maybe try to come back 571 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 2: in the United States some other time or find some 572 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 2: other place to live. You know what, It's not like 573 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 2: people are being sentenced to life in prison here is 574 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So you don't need the same level 575 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 2: of deterrence to get into that water, do you know 576 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 2: what I mean? If you were in Alcatraz and you 577 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: were serving a life sentence, you know, maybe your risk 578 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 2: swimming to shore or not. Maybe you decide it's worth 579 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 2: worth a go. If you're waiting a few days before 580 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 2: you get deported to I don't know, Guatemala or where, 581 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 2: probably just get on the plane and figure things out later. 582 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 2: I'm not sure that I would take the risk of 583 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 2: going chest deep in the Everglades. I'm gonna take you, 584 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 2: Laura and the boys, by the way, on an alligator 585 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: Everglades tour. I've been telling you this alllong. It's amazing. 586 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: That would be really really cool. 587 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 2: It's really cool. The Everglades is actually beautiful. It's a 588 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 2: really pristine and amazing wilderness area. 589 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 4: Uh. 590 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: And alligators and you get up close to them are 591 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 2: incredible animals. They're a little bit like dogs. 592 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: I have been obsessed with alligators my whole life, so 593 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: I find them to be utterly fascinating and uh actually 594 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: way more interesting than sharks, because you're more likely to 595 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: be around fresh water on a regular basis than you 596 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: are the ocean generally speaking. And I just I love 597 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: this idea, and I think what it speaks to is 598 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: now that the big beautiful bill has passed and they 599 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: have to go back and the House has to get 600 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: involved in everything else. I think that many of the 601 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: Trump policies are going to be officially underway, and again 602 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: I would suggest that the pivot at this point needs 603 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: to be to let's unlock the full growth rate and 604 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: potential of the American economy, because that's what will ultimately 605 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: make this bill a one that really kind of gets 606 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: everything firing on all cylinders. 607 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 2: And this is why I think the just the border 608 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,959 Speaker 2: issue alone, for me and the funding and the components 609 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 2: of this bill that deal with the border, if you 610 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 2: get nothing else but that, it's worth passing this bill 611 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 2: because if you don't get that under control, nothing else matter. 612 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: First of all you want for conservatism, you keep letting 613 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 2: the third world come in by the tens of millions conservatism. 614 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: Good luck with that, and you're not going to have 615 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 2: a country left to fight for in the in the 616 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 2: first place. So yeah, these other things, they're structural, they're 617 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 2: long term. I get it on the numbers, m clay, 618 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 2: and I've been doing this for fifteen years. It's just yes, 619 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 2: you're you know, it's going to go back to the 620 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 2: House now, and we're gonna hear chip Row and some people. 621 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: And I like these people. 622 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: I'm not putting, but you know it's they're gonna they're 623 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 2: gonna sign off on this. 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You know nothing about gators and crocs. Crocs 695 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 2: will chase you on land with speeds. I didn't say 696 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,959 Speaker 2: they won't chase you. I just had an able bodied Bob. 697 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 2: I'm just faster than you are, Buddy. I don't know 698 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 2: what to tell you, Okay, i'd smoke you in a 699 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 2: foot race. And he says gators are active during the day. 700 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 2: I know, I said they primarily hunt at night. We 701 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 2: got to listen for the words here, folks, gotta listen 702 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 2: for this specific words. 703 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: My point is just if you run it diagonals, and 704 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,919 Speaker 1: if the alligator stays committed to going straight, you're gonna 705 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: run right. 706 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 2: Back into the alligator. So the diagonal thing is preposterous. 707 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 2: That's just a wive that's not a real thing, all right, 708 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 2: You just mean run. It relies on the fact that 709 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 2: the alligator is going to be chasing you. But again, 710 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 2: my point is just diagonal is not actually taking you 711 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 2: further away from the alligator. If the alligator keeps running 712 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 2: at a straight line, well yeah, well so you're supposed 713 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 2: to zigzag, is the point. So you're using like your 714 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 2: your lateral movement, you know, in order to escape because 715 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 2: it had this thing. If you don't move fast, it's 716 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 2: gonna get you. It's gonna bite your ass. So you 717 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 2: gotta move fast. That's that's the real important safety tip. 718 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 2: Run faster than the alligator.