1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. I'm always a little conflicted here. 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: I mean not in my regular life. I like you. 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: I think Kyle believed that honesty is always the best policy. 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 2: It's one of the first things that our parents tell us, 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: our teachers tell us, right, But when it comes to sports, 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: I'm not actually sure that fans and media alike really 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: want it. We ask for it, and then when we 9 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: get it, we're turned off by it. I'll tell you 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: who I'm talking about in just a second. Your ex 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: team is on fire and nobody can figure out why, 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: and some of the hottest teams in the NFL took 13 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 2: a step back today. We've got a lot to get to, 14 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the tire rank dot Com studios. Tire 15 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 2: rank dot com will help you get there an unmatched selection, 16 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: fast free shipping, free road hazard protection, and over ten 17 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: thousand recommended installers. Ti rak dot com the way tire 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: buying should be. Hello, Kyle Rudolph, how are we doing today? 19 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 3: Man? I'm doing great, Mark. How are you? 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: I'm doing fantastic. Man. It's another good day Week ten 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: in the National Football League, and yet another reminder that 22 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: and I feel like this probably should be the name 23 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: of our show. Everything we thought we knew dot dot 24 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: dot and then just leave it there because we get 25 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: to this hour of Sunday and everything we thought we 26 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: knew kind of goes the other direction that top level 27 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: of the AFC today. Now the Chiefs didn't play, the 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills don't play until tomorrow night. The Miami Dolphins 29 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: are off. But we talked about the depth that that 30 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 2: conference throws at you, and huge step back today the 31 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: Ravens coughed one up the Cincinnati Bengals, coming off of 32 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: their performances recently, suddenly let one slip away at home, 33 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: a game that you wouldn't see them winning or I'm sorry, 34 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: I wouldn't see them losing. And then also a team 35 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: that I've really been touting all year long, as like, 36 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: do not forget about this team. And while I understand 37 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: why it played out the way it did today, I'm 38 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 2: shocked at how easy of a win it was for 39 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers at Jacksonville, both teams coming off 40 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 2: of bye today. So I think what we thought we knew, 41 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 2: we thought we knew that the AFC at the top 42 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: was building this elite resume took a step backward today. 43 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think certainly a lot of those teams 44 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 3: may have taken a step backwards at the top of 45 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: the AFC. But one of the things that we thought 46 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 3: we knew that was confirmed today is the depth in 47 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 3: the AFC. And you look at a lot of those games, 48 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 3: whether it be the Browns beating the Ravens, coming back 49 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 3: down fourteen points to win that one. You know, you 50 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: talk about the Bengals losing today, well, you know, certainly 51 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 3: they had a chance to win it at the end, 52 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 3: but again CJ. Stroud gets the ball in two minutes 53 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 3: and takes them right now down the field and leads 54 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 3: another game winning drive. It's like the Texans, you know, 55 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: they're back over five hundred. It's like there's just so 56 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 3: many good football teams in the AFC, you know, really, 57 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 3: from like one through ten, Almost. 58 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: Ten teams right now have a record of five hundred 59 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: or veteran. In fact, there's only one five hundred team 60 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 2: that's the Jets. And that won't be the case when 61 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: we're all done later on tonight at eight o'clock Pacific 62 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: eleven Eastern. Maybe the game won't quite be over. But 63 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,119 Speaker 2: you get what I'm saying they're either going to join 64 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: the ranks of having a winning record or they'll go 65 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: the other way. But ten teams potentially with a winning 66 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: record in the AFC is just a wild way to 67 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: look at this. And some of those teams that we 68 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: thought maybe I don't know, outside looking in trying to 69 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: scratch their way in the Bengals, who I thought, upward bullet, 70 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: they're really gonna start humming now and maybe move towards 71 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: the top of that division. They cement their spot for 72 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: another week at least in last place. Chargers again, tough assignment, 73 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: but I still don't understand why that defense can't stop anyone. 74 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: They've got such good players and they stop knowing and 75 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,239 Speaker 2: so now they're headed in the other direction. Really really 76 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 2: interesting stuff. But before we go deep into any of 77 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: those teams, I want to ask you about this because 78 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 2: this is what I was referring to with honesty is 79 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: the best policy. I think often in sports players and coaches, 80 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: no one would say, don't be honest with us. We 81 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 2: ask for honesty, we don't want cookie cutter answers, and 82 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: then when we don't get them, when we get the opposite. 83 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: When we do get honesty, and we get someone saying 84 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 2: something interesting, we go, oh, don't say that's that's rude. 85 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 2: Don't don't do that. So there's been a lot of 86 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 2: that talk here in San Francisco Kyle Shanahan. Over the 87 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: last two weeks, their defensive coordinator, Steve Wilkes, moved down 88 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 2: to the sideline. I have no idea what kind of 89 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: an effect it had on the game. I know that 90 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: the defense looked like themselves again. They looked completely refreshed 91 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: and renewed. Two weeks ago, three weeks ago they were 92 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 2: in Minnesota. I believe you were there for the game 93 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: and you watched the call just before half that led 94 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: to a long Jordison Addison touchdown with only sixteen seconds 95 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: left to go on the clock. Three days later, in 96 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: a press conference, Shanahan called out his defensive coordinator and said, quote, 97 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: he knows he messed up today. After brock Perty's first 98 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: touchdown pass, which was a risky throw, he said, hey, 99 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 2: got away with one there. That was quote the worst 100 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: decision he's made since he got here. I find all 101 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: of this fascinating. I think it lets us in a 102 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: little bit. But when coaches do it in front of 103 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 2: a microphone. It also takes us aback because I don't 104 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: hear a lot of coaches talk like that after games. 105 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: What's your take on a how rare that is and 106 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: how that resonates in a locker room. 107 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's there's two parts to it. I 108 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 3: think first and foremost, it's that the coach has respect 109 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 3: for the individual that he's talking about. So in your 110 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 3: first case, in the first case, whether it be Steve 111 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 3: Wilks or in the second case brock Perty, you know, uh, 112 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 3: there has to be a mutual respect there, you know. 113 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 3: I certainly think if you're if you ever crossed the 114 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 3: line and it becomes disrespectful, certainly you could be honest. 115 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 3: But as soon as it becomes disrespectful, that's where you 116 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 3: would have an issue. And then I think the second 117 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 3: thing is when you're talking about the individual who's being 118 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: spoken of in the comment, I think there's a motivation 119 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 3: behind it. And you know, whether it be the first 120 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: one where you know, he knows that Steve can make 121 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: a better call and that defense wasn't playing up to 122 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 3: the expectations that they had for it, and it's just 123 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: a way of simply motivating. I think you could be 124 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 3: looked at for the same with Brock Purdy today, a 125 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: guy who really never turned the ball over through the 126 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 3: first five games, and then turned it over all the 127 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: time the last three games, almost reminding him like, hey, 128 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 3: you got away with it. You know you got away 129 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 3: with it, but you know we beat a very good 130 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 3: AFC team on the road, and like, hey, that might 131 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 3: have been the worst decision you've ever made since you 132 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 3: got here, but we got away with it. Don't ever 133 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 3: do it again. 134 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: I tell you what. That game also, really I think 135 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: it shakes trees a little bit with regard to who 136 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: are the real and then fill in the blank, like 137 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles right now at eight and one might 138 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: be the only team in the NFL that hasn't truly 139 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 2: had like this crazy game where you're like or stretch 140 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: where you're like, who are these guys? I know they 141 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 2: lost to the Jets. That game happened right before you 142 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: and I took air a little bit of a weird 143 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: finish to that football game. I'm not excusing it. Look, 144 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: it's the NFL. People lose games, but they've not had 145 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: a stretch where they just didn't look like themselves. The 146 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: forty nine ers have the Bills have, the Chiefs, I 147 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 2: think even have looking around the league, the Jaguars, that 148 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: was shocking. They could not even move the ball today. 149 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 2: So when I look up and down the league and 150 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: I see parody, and then I go, all right, let's 151 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 2: simply look at these teams at their best, acknowledging that 152 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 2: each of them also have a dark side. But I'm 153 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 2: gonna think that largely their best is what's gonna show 154 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: up in January when all these teams are at their best, 155 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 2: who do you think is best? 156 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: In my opinion, I think it's the San Francisco forty 157 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 3: nine ers. I think when you look at their three 158 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 3: game skid and the issues that they had over that 159 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 3: three game losing streak, I think, first and foremost, you 160 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 3: can look at health. Certainly that offense is not the 161 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: same with all of the weapons out there, and whether 162 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 3: that be Deebo getting hurt, Christian being banged up, losing 163 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 3: Trent Williams. You know, those are three of the best 164 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 3: players at their position in all of football. I think 165 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 3: you look at that defense, the additions that they made 166 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 3: at the trade deadline with Chase Young and prior to 167 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 3: the trade deadline, and in adding Randy Gregory, I think 168 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 3: today's game against the Jaguars was not as much Holy Cow. 169 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 3: The Jaguar aren't who they thought that who we thought 170 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 3: they were at one of the top teams in the AFC, 171 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 3: But more so this forty nine Ers team, when firing 172 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 3: on all cylinders is scary good. And I said this 173 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 3: when we were talking about Steve Wilks maybe a couple 174 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 3: weeks ago, and just the scheme and when the Niners 175 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 3: defense is at their best, and when this Niners defense, 176 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 3: regardless of if Robert Sala or Damico Ryans or Steve 177 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 3: Wilks's calling plays, they have elite rushers that are getting 178 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 3: after the quarterback and making the quarterback make tough decisions 179 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 3: under pressure. And that's what you saw today. Trevor Lawrence 180 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 3: had no time. He was always under pressure. And it 181 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 3: doesn't matter what you're doing behind that on defense. When 182 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 3: you have that rush and you apply that pressure to 183 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 3: the quarterback, it makes it a long day for that quarterback. YEP. 184 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: Five sacks today of Trevor Lawrence, and all the talk 185 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: of Nick Bose hasn't been able to get home. He 186 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 2: had a sack and a half. Javon Hargraves, not himself. 187 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 2: He had a sack and a half, Chase Young with 188 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 2: half a sack in his debut with the forty nine ers. 189 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, all of a sudden, it's all good with 190 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: regard to that team. However, if we do look at 191 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: the top of the NFC, there is maybe the biggest 192 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: party crasher that I've ever seen, at least in recent 193 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 2: memory of one of the conferences. We'll get to that 194 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: team coming up next. We're out of the gates and underway. 195 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 2: Week ten of the NFL schedule is on the table 196 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 2: and up for discussion. We're brought to you by Progressive Insurance. 197 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: Progressive makes bundling easy and affordable. Get a multi policy 198 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 2: discount by combining your motorcycle, RV, boat, ATV and more 199 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: all your protection in one place. 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We got 222 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: NBA action out there, got some college stuff that we 223 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 2: want to get to tonight as well. Mark Willard, Kyle 224 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: Rudolf tie rag dot com Studios. But this is going 225 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 2: to be right up your alley, and I'd like to 226 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 2: know what on earth we're supposed to do with this 227 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: five game win streak by the Minnesota Vikings. They just 228 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: decided to take all their best players and for various 229 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: reasons injury and beyond, just toss them to the sideline, 230 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: make a fucky last second trade at the most important 231 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 2: position in all of sports, and lo and behold, have 232 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 2: him show up, not know the plays, barely know the 233 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 2: names of his teammates, and just run up and down 234 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: and win football games. In the NFL, That's how it 235 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: always works. I don't know what to do with this 236 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: team six and four, and absolutely with the way that 237 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 2: the NFC has structured, they are in the picture. I 238 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 2: don't know why, I don't know how, and I don't 239 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: know how to process it. 240 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 3: Well, we talked about this a little bit last week 241 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 3: that seven teams have to make the playoffs in the NFC. 242 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 3: It's a rule. They added the seventh team now, so 243 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 3: seven teams have to go to the playoffs the NFC, 244 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 3: And you know, we talked about it. You have your 245 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 3: four division winners, someone is going to win the NFC 246 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: South by default, and then you have the Seahawks and 247 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 3: the Cowboys in terms of right now legitimate wild card teams. 248 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 3: And you know, we talked about this last week after 249 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 3: Josh dobbs first win as the starting quarterback. He wasn't 250 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 3: even the starting quarterback at that time. He came into 251 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 3: the game after the starting quarterback got hurt so after 252 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 3: he led the Vikings to a win in his first 253 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 3: game as a Minnesota Vikings quarterback. That they're sitting at 254 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 3: five and four, and you look at their schedule coming 255 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 3: up and the teams that they play. They go to 256 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 3: Denver next week. You know, they had the Saints team 257 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 3: coming to Minnesota today from that struggling NFC South Division, 258 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 3: and I think when I watch this Vikings team, now, 259 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: I see a team that's finally starting to find balance. 260 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 3: You know, you talked about it. You lose an elite 261 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 3: starting quarterback, you know, a guy who's playing as good 262 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 3: as anybody across the NFL. And maybe he was playing 263 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 3: as good as anybody across the NFL because their other 264 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 3: elite player was a wide receiver that you have to 265 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 3: get the ball to all the time, and that makes 266 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 3: you one dimensional. It's very hard to win games when 267 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 3: you're one dimensional. And you look at the last two weeks, 268 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 3: now take it with a grain of salt. It was 269 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: the Atlanta Falcons and the New Orleans Saints. You know, 270 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 3: we're not again the Saints are five and five, but 271 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: we're not talking about you know, the class of the 272 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 3: NFC here, But they're starting to find balance, and whether 273 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 3: that be with Josh Dobbs running the ball and him 274 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 3: using his incredible athletic ability to make things happen. Today, 275 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 3: they got creative a little bit with ty Chandler in 276 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 3: the backfield, had a direct snack to him in the 277 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 3: low red zone. And you're finally starting to find some balance. 278 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 3: And then on the other side of the ball, you know, 279 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 3: a defense in Brian Flor's first year as a defensive coordinator, 280 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 3: they went through some struggles early. It's a very complicated scheme. 281 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 3: You know, it's all out pressure or all out coverage, 282 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 3: and it all kind of looks the same, and you 283 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 3: have to be able to make it look the same 284 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 3: in order to make it difficult on a quarterback, because 285 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 3: if a quarterback knows which of the two were coming, 286 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 3: it's very easy and he'll pick you apart. And I 287 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 3: think you're starting to see a team that's starting to 288 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: put it together on both sides of the ball while 289 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 3: finding balance. And you know who knows we've talked about 290 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 3: justin Jefferson. Certainly that situation doesn't seem like it's going 291 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 3: to resolve itself anytime soon. You know, he's now clear 292 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 3: to you know, to practice and hasn't started the practice 293 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 3: window yet, so we'll see. I certainly think the Vikings 294 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 3: will do more than just sneak into the playoffs as 295 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 3: that seven seed. 296 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: I know. 297 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 3: I think they're you know, gonna be sitting in a 298 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 3: really good spot here come December. 299 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 2: Well again, what we thought we knew dot dot So 300 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 2: I know that come December, come January, maybe this will 301 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 2: all prove to be wrong. But when you do look 302 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 2: at the standings right now in the NFC, it almost 303 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 2: becomes difficult to think that the Vikings won't be in 304 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 2: the playoffs, Like it seems so clear cut, like you 305 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 2: have a winning record, you go. If you don't, that's it, 306 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: you're out. Like someone's gonna win that NFC South. The 307 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 2: rest of the teams are all gonna be five hundred 308 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: or below. And then you mentioned it. The Cowboys are 309 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 2: six and three, the Seahawks are six and three. Let's 310 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 2: give them the knob that they're at least tied for 311 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 2: first place with the forty nine ers. They're gonna play 312 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 2: each other on Thanksgiving and start to figure that out. 313 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: But those two look like playoff teams. Eagles Cowboys playoff teams. 314 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 2: All right, who's the last team. Well, the Vikings already 315 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: have a multi game lead on whoever would be in 316 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: second place, which right now would technically be the Tampa 317 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: Bay Bucks. They've already got a game and a half lead, 318 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 2: and that team doesn't scare me one bit. Add in that, 319 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: the Vikings have very winnable games before they hit their 320 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 2: bye week. They've got a couple of primetime games. They 321 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 2: got to go to Denver next Sunday night. That one's 322 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 2: a little bit interesting. But Monday Night football after that, 323 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: they're hosting the Chicago Bears. I think they're probably gonna 324 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 2: win that football game. And then you go to a 325 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 2: bye week and it's like home stretch time and you've 326 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 2: got a winning record, and I don't even know if 327 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 2: they're gonna have anybody really chasing them. So I don't know. Man. 328 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 2: I look at this whole thing and again go back 329 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: to that phrase what we thought we knew, because I 330 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 2: thought that quarterbacking in the NFL was really complex, and 331 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that now it's not. But someone's gonna 332 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: have to explain to me how Josh Dobbs can show 333 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 2: up and shake hands as if he's arriving at a party, 334 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 2: not remember any of those names, and ten days later 335 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 2: have won two football games. I don't understand that that 336 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 2: doesn't add up to what I've been told. This goes 337 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: into all of this. 338 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 3: I think there's a couple of factors when you talk 339 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,479 Speaker 3: about Josh Dobbs's ability to just show up and then 340 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 3: win a game less than five days later, and then 341 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 3: go out and win win your first two games after 342 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 3: being with a team for less than a week and 343 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 3: a half, and I think first and foremost it speaks 344 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 3: to Josh dobbs intelligence. Certainly, it's it's been well known. 345 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 3: He's now received the nickname the Pasture, not as a 346 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 3: you know, rocket scientist that worked with NASA. He's a 347 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 3: pretty smart guy, a guy that's over the average intelligence level. 348 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 3: So I think that first and foremost plays a big 349 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 3: part of it. He can learn and digest information very 350 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 3: very quickly, and he can also process information very quickly. 351 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 3: I think the second part is you got to give 352 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell and their staff credit. I think it's almost 353 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 3: forced them. Like I said, when you have one of 354 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 3: the best quarterbacks in the NFL and the best wide 355 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 3: receiver in the NFL. You have to find creative ways 356 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 3: to make sure that Justin Jefferson gets the football. We 357 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 3: need to move him all over the place. We need 358 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 3: to make sure he's running a bunch of different routes. 359 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 3: If he lines up in the same place every time 360 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 3: or most of the time, defenses are gonna be able 361 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 3: to take that away. So our offense has to be 362 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 3: much more complex, Like we have motions and shifts, and 363 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 3: I need to be moving him all the time. I 364 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 3: need to make sure that the defense doesn't know where 365 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson's gonna line up. Now, when Josh Dobbs is 366 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 3: the quarterback and you no longer have Justin Jefferson out there, 367 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 3: now it's like, hey, here's our offense. Here's the system 368 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 3: that we base practiced all of OTA's and training camp, 369 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 3: and then ultimately when you get into the regular season, 370 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 3: that kind of all changes, Like the offense is what 371 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: do we need to do this week to get the 372 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 3: guys we need to get the ball and win games. 373 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,479 Speaker 3: So I think you got to give Kevin O'Connell credit 374 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 3: for simplifying things and just getting back to the basics. 375 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 3: And again, I think that that has played a part 376 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 3: in why they've had success the last two weeks. 377 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, he I mean, his story has got to be 378 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: and I don't think it's really really been told, but 379 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 2: his story has got to be something that turns into 380 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 2: some sort of a of a documentary at the end 381 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 2: of the year. Remember what was it about seven weeks 382 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 2: ago when he tried to go buy his own jersey 383 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 2: at the Cardinals team store and they didn't even have 384 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 2: him on the roster, Like he couldn't even like he 385 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 2: did the whole like choose your own name thing, and 386 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: it still was like nope, can't even find him. And 387 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: so he's tossed into this whole thing and plays some 388 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 2: decent football games. Right, This guy beat the Cowboys with 389 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 2: the Cardinals, and then last minute gets a call from 390 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 2: his agent says, you might be traded tomorrow. Then he 391 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 2: is traded tomorrow, goes to the Vikings, wins two football 392 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 2: games in a matter of ten days. And now here 393 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 2: we are talking about a guy who may well be 394 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: playing playoff football later on this year. And you're right, 395 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 2: he seems like a great dude. He's an incredibly smart dude. 396 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 2: Hard knocks should not follow a team, They should just 397 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 2: follow Josh Dobbs for a few months. That's what I'd 398 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: like to see. 399 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 3: And again, I think you have to give Josh Dobbs credit. 400 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 3: We said this during the course of his time in Arizona, Like, 401 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 3: Josh Dobbs gives this team a chance to win games, 402 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 3: a team that we thought would have no chance at 403 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 3: winning any games this year. We thought they were sign 404 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 3: sealed and delivered for the first overall pick. And just everybody, 405 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 3: if you're in a survivor pool, all you have to 406 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 3: do is pick whoever the Arizona Cardinals are playing and 407 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 3: you're safe. And that wasn't the case. He played really 408 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 3: really good football. He gave them a chance to win 409 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 3: almost every single week. And also go back to last year, 410 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 3: he gets traded to the Tennessee Titans less than a 411 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 3: couple weeks later, you know he's out there. Basically, they 412 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 3: traded for him to give themselves the best chance to 413 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 3: beat the Jacksonville Jaguars in a Week eighteen game to 414 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 3: make the playoffs. And it's like this guy is just 415 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 3: once again, everybody wants to write him off. Everybody wants 416 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 3: to just, you know, kind of career journeyman quarterback. He's 417 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 3: played really, really good football everywhere that he's had the 418 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 3: opportunity to play. 419 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt, and it is it is continuing to 420 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 2: get interesting. I don't think they're necessarily gonna scare the 421 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 2: top of the NFC, but five in a row. Nobody 422 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 2: saw that coming for sure. I'll tell you what we 423 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 2: do see coming. We see Nick Cope coming. He's gonna 424 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 2: jump on in here. Tell everybody what's trended. 425 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 6: Hey, Nick, what's going on? Guys? We got a Sunday 426 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 6: night football underway. 427 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 7: Raiders punted away after their first possession. Jets are driving, 428 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 7: got a big pass to Garrett Wilson to get into 429 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 7: plus territory. It looks like the Jets are gonna have 430 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 7: to settle for a long field goal coming up, not 431 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 7: even five minutes into the first quarter in Vegas. Perhaps 432 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 7: the story today guys across the NFL. How about the kickers? 433 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 7: We had five walk off game winning field goals today, 434 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 7: three of them coming in the late afternoon window of 435 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 7: the Lions getting a forty one yard field goal from 436 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 7: Riley Patterson at the buzzer to edge the Chargers forty 437 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 7: one to thirty eight. Kyler Murray coming back onto the 438 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 7: field his season debut as the Cardinals beat the Falcons 439 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 7: twenty five to twenty three. Matt Prater with a chip 440 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 7: shot field goal as time expired. He al said Jason Myers. 441 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 7: For the Seahawks, he hit a walkoff field goal, and 442 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 7: Seattle gets by the Commanders twenty nine to twenty six. Earlier, 443 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,959 Speaker 7: of course, he had the Texans upsetting the Bengal in Cincinnati. 444 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 7: Matt Amandola, who is just elevated into the active roster 445 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 7: earlier this week. A few days ago, he hits the 446 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 7: game winning field goal for Houston thirty to twenty seven, 447 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 7: and then Dustin Hopkins for the Browns as they trailed 448 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 7: for fifty nine minutes in twenty seconds, but ultimately get 449 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 7: the win against the Ravens on a forty one yard 450 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 7: field goal thirty three to thirty one. Other finals, Cowboys 451 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 7: blew out the Giants forty nine to seventeen. Dak Press 452 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 7: got four hundred and four yards and four touchdowns. Forty 453 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 7: nine Ers with a big bounce back game, snapping their 454 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 7: three game losing streak all over the Jaguars thirty four 455 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 7: to three. Brock Perty two hundred and ninety six yards 456 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 7: three touchdowns. Steelers held off the Packers twenty three to nineteen. 457 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 7: As you guys just talked about, Vinkings winning their fifth 458 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 7: straight twenty seven to nineteen over the Saints, New Orleans. 459 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 7: Quarterback Derek Carr left with a concussion and a shoulder 460 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 7: injury and did not return. Fortunately for the Saints, they 461 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 7: do have their bye week coming up for a chance 462 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 7: for Car to get healthy before their next game. Then 463 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 7: you had the Buccaneers over the Titans twenty to sixteen. 464 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 7: Tennessee has now dropped four or five and the Colts 465 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 7: are even at five hundred now five and five on 466 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 7: the season, winning that ugly game in Frankfort against the Patriots. 467 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 6: Ten to six. And one note in college football. 468 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 7: Earlier on Sunday, Texas A and M fired football coach 469 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 7: Jimbo Fisher. 470 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 6: Mark Collm back to you guys. 471 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 2: Okay, thanks very much, Nick. Appreciate that we are live 472 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 2: in the Tirack dot Com studios. Kyle, I bet you 473 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 2: saw this. You saw the parting gifts that Jimbo Fisher 474 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 2: will be getting. Did you know you see that? 475 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 3: I saw all seventy six and a half million of them? What? 476 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 2: What on earth are we doing? I mean, I'm glad 477 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 2: at least this comes in a day and age where 478 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: the top level college football players are allowed to go 479 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 2: shoot a commercial, Like, at least we've got that. But 480 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 2: I mean every single thing, and look, I'm not gonna 481 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 2: be saying anything you haven't heard people complain about before, 482 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 2: but every single thing that the NC Double A has 483 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 2: tried to present itself as for the years and years 484 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 2: that have gone by, especially every time it talks about 485 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 2: player payment, talks about studying and all the things that 486 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 2: we need these players to do, these student athletes. Whenever 487 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 2: the NC DOUBLEA gets high and mighty, something like this happens, 488 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 2: and it's just like, what a joke? What what a 489 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 2: complete joke to essentially cry poor when somehow something like 490 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 2: this adds up for somebody's bottom line. 491 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I again, like it's it's somebody's bottom line. Certainly 492 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 3: you would think there's that strong pool of money coming 493 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 3: in from the Texas A and M alumni that would 494 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 3: probably cover most of this. But again, I think you 495 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 3: hit the nail on the head when you said, you know, 496 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 3: every single time the NC DOUBLEA wants to kind kind 497 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 3: of praise you know, holier than now and higher, high 498 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 3: and mighty, you see something like this, and it's just 499 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 3: it's hard to believe. You know, you're gonna give somebody, 500 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 3: like I said, seventy six and a half million or 501 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 3: whatever the exact number is, to not coach to just yeah, 502 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 3: to go away, and yeah, it's pretty incredible. 503 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: Seventy I can't get over it. I'm sorry, Wait a minute, 504 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 2: seventy six and a half million. And and someone sat 505 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 2: in a room over the last couple of weeks and 506 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 2: when you know, what would be best for our program 507 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 2: financially is to go higher someone else and pay them 508 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 2: like that that actually added up in the back room 509 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 2: of a school. 510 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 3: Well, and if you're if you're the coach, not Jimbo, 511 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 3: but if you're the new coach and you're coming in 512 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 3: there and you're saying, hold on, wait a second, you're 513 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 3: you're paying the guy seventy six and a half million 514 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 3: not to be here. What are you gonna pay me? 515 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 3: You know, I'm not coming in for a couple million bucks. Like, 516 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 3: if you're gonna pay the guy not to be here, 517 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 3: whatever that ends up being a year, certainly you're gonna 518 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 3: have to pay me close to that, if not more. 519 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 2: No doubt, no doubt, that's what it's gonna have to be. 520 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 2: It's an unbelievable story. And so there it is. There 521 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 2: it is yet again, especially the schools in I don't 522 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 2: want to just say that area of the country, but 523 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 2: that that level of the sport, the money is just 524 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 2: it's unbelievable and it's driving everything. I do want to 525 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 2: ask you about something that's being driven, but this is 526 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 2: much more off the radar. I sent you this tweet 527 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 2: a couple of days ago, and I added a little 528 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: laughing an LOL emoji because you and I have had 529 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 2: many conversations about it that I felt like this one 530 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: was cut straight from like someone's pr machine. So we're 531 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 2: talking about the Vikings. We're talking about what you would 532 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 2: do if you were Justin Jefferson. And with each win 533 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 2: that the Vikings get and you got a quarterback who 534 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 2: threw for two sixty eight, it's not like they're inept 535 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: in the passing game. Here's here lies Justin Jefferson, who 536 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 2: if the Vikings were still one and four, you could 537 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 2: be like, well, why would I come back for this? 538 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 2: There's there's nothing to come back for. I'm just gonna 539 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: risk injury. I need that new contract. Well, I keep 540 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 2: wondering with each win how much the pressure builds on 541 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 2: Justin to get back on the field and help the 542 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 2: Vikings in a playoff run. Three days ago, Adam Schefter 543 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 2: and I'll read it word for word, He tweeted. Vikings 544 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 2: wide receiver Justin Jefferson, who has missed the past four 545 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 2: games due to a hamstring injury, said he can't yet 546 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 2: put a date on when he might return. He said 547 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 2: he wants to be one hundred percent before he returns, 548 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 2: but also still calls himself day to day. If there's 549 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 2: nothing going on there, then my name's not Mark. Like 550 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 2: that's he's healthy, Kyle. I'm not here to talk about 551 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 2: other people's injuries, but this guy would be playing right 552 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,959 Speaker 2: now if he had signed a contract in the offseason. 553 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. And I also think the more that they continue 554 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 3: to win football games, I said this last week, and 555 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 3: I think it remains true. Most people would assume, Okay, now, 556 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 3: that's turning the pressure up on JJ to get back 557 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 3: out there, and I honestly think it's the opposite. I 558 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 3: think it's putting more and more pressure on the organization 559 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 3: to get the deal done and get him back out there. 560 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 3: Because again that tweet, it lays it all out there. 561 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 3: It says nothing about the contract, but it says everything 562 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 3: about the contract totally. And I think it's exactly like 563 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 3: you put it, where he wants to be one hundred 564 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 3: percent healthy, but he's day to day. What that means 565 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 3: is he's healthy enough to play, but will not play 566 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 3: until you give him the contract that he rightfully deserves. Now, 567 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 3: are you know? Is this something that in if you're 568 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings, you're like, hey, look we we have 569 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 3: I think it's twenty one days on the windows, so 570 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 3: technically he has two more weeks on the IR window 571 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 3: to return. We mentioned the Minnesota Vikings schedule. They've won 572 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 3: five straight, all five without him, and then your next 573 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 3: two games are the Denver Broncos and the Chicago Bears. 574 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 3: Then you have your bye week. Is this something where 575 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 3: you know, maybe they're like, look, let's get to the 576 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 3: bye week and we will get this done. Maybe I 577 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 3: was in Minnesota in twenty twelve when the same situation, 578 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 3: happy with Percy Harvin Percy wanted a new contract. Percy 579 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 3: was arguably the MVP of the league through eight games. 580 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 3: Now think back to twenty twelve, the MVP of the 581 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 3: league ended up being on our team in Adrian Peterson, 582 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 3: if it wasn't for kind of the drama that went 583 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 3: down with Percy halfway through the year where they told him, hey, 584 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 3: well this was going into that season, Hey we'll get 585 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 3: a deal done. We'll get a deal done. No deal 586 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 3: gets done over the summer. Then it's hey, we'll get 587 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 3: it done during training camp. Then it was hey, we 588 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 3: have our bye after week eight, like, we'll get it 589 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 3: done by week get it done by the bye week. 590 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 3: And ultimately that bye week came and went and nothing 591 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 3: ever got done, and Percy never played another game for 592 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings. He got traded to Seattle that following 593 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 3: off season. And to me, I'm not saying that that 594 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 3: means that this is going to play out the same way. 595 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 3: But as I look at the schedule, I look at 596 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 3: the situation the team's in, and I look at his 597 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 3: window to return, it almost lines up perfectly to say, look, 598 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 3: you want to be one hundred percent healthy, get a 599 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 3: hundred percent healthy, Let's get this deal done over the 600 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 3: next three weeks, and we need you for the stretch 601 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 3: run to see how far we can get in this 602 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 3: NFC playoff picture. 603 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 2: I think what you're saying makes a whole lot of sense. 604 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 2: I do have one more question, though, which is whether 605 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 2: or not the Vikings actually even wanted it to play 606 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 2: out this way. There's other quarterback drama building that maybe 607 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 2: you're not even noticing, especially as draft position moves each 608 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 2: week right now, So we'll talk about all of that 609 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 2: coming up next. That's Kyle Rudolph on Mark wa. This 610 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Radio All with Kyle Rudolph, Mark Willard Tyre, 611 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 2: RAQ dot Com Studios, cruising through our first hour together 612 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 2: here after or as we wrap up Week ten National 613 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 2: Football League one more to go tomorrow Jets and Raiders 614 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 2: playing right now. I'll ask you this, Kyle, I mean, 615 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 2: what do you think this is such a fascinating business 616 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 2: of sports situation with the Minnesota Vikings. They've got a 617 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 2: very highly paid quarterback who's aging, They've got the best 618 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 2: receiver in the game, and everybody is doing a new deal, 619 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 2: and they started the year without deals for either of them. 620 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 2: And to act like those situations aren't tied together, I 621 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 2: think is a mistake, like they clearly are. If you're 622 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 2: gonna move away from Kirk and you're gonna do a rebuild, 623 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 2: does Justin even want that? So I wonder what you 624 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 2: think was the Vikings end game here like when they 625 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 2: started this year, And I wonder behind closed doors how 626 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 2: competitive they thought they'd be. Sure if Kirk had played 627 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 2: a full season, could they be a playoff team? Could 628 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 2: they be in this whole thing? Yeah? Realistically, are they 629 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 2: hanging with the Niners in the Eagles? I doubt it 630 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,479 Speaker 2: the same way that realistically they couldn't really get through 631 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 2: the playoffs like that last year. But what do you 632 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 2: think they wanted here? Like, I'm still trying to figure 633 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 2: out why Justin wasn't signed before the year started. 634 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:50,720 Speaker 3: Well again, I'm I'm not in these negotiations. I don't 635 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 3: know if it's simply something as unrealistic as maybe he 636 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 3: wants forty million dollars a year. You know, maybe he's 637 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 3: just the point where, look, you can't watch TV without 638 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 3: seeing Justin Jefferson in a commercial somewhere. So Justin Jefferson 639 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 3: is making a lot of money off the field. Most times, 640 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 3: guys that haven't signed a second contract, you know, you 641 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 3: put thirty million dollars a year in front of them, 642 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 3: they're taking that yesterday. They they they're not waiting to 643 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 3: go sign. Oh well, I wanted to get to thirty 644 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 3: five because right now the highest is thirty or thirty 645 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 3: two and a half. So not being in the negotiations, 646 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's just simply that, hey, he 647 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 3: wants to be paid so much more than the where 648 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 3: Tybree Kill is right now that we just can't do it. 649 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 3: There are certainly other ways that, you know, the Minnesota 650 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 3: Vikings from a negotiations standpoint, can can make it enticing 651 00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:01,280 Speaker 3: and appealing for Justin to want to sign. I ultimately 652 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 3: think there's nothing. There's nothing that gets it done that 653 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 3: isn't making him the highest paid wide receiver in the game. 654 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 3: And I think too when you look at just the team, 655 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 3: I go back to Week two and so, what what 656 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 3: is this team? 657 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 2: What are they? 658 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 3: What do they want to do? Well? They, I know 659 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 3: the owners, they want to win a championship. Do you 660 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,720 Speaker 3: believe with the roster you have right now, Kirk Cousins 661 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 3: at quarterback, Justin Jefferson at wide receiver, and the talent 662 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 3: around them, that this is a super Bowl caliber roster? 663 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 3: Maybe you could debate it. I would say no, And 664 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 3: so what do you do? And and realistically it's like 665 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 3: If Kirk would have played the whole season, there's no 666 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 3: way they would have been able to afford to bring 667 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 3: both of them back. He would have priced himself out 668 00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 3: completely because he was going to continue to put up 669 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 3: massive numbers. Would they have won as many games? I 670 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 3: don't know. It's up for debate, but it's like, it's 671 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,879 Speaker 3: interesting that, you know, they certainly have decisions to make, 672 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 3: and what happens if Josh Dobbs goes and wins eight 673 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 3: out of the last ten games for you and you're 674 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 3: you know, you're the five seed in the playoffs, So 675 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 3: certainly interesting times there. And I think first and foremost 676 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 3: it starts with making sure Justin Jefferson is under contract 677 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,240 Speaker 3: long term. It doesn't matter what else is in the picture. 678 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 3: That has to happen. 679 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. And the winning streak idea is 680 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 2: kind of fun. And maybe the winning streak that they've 681 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 2: already had is already too much. In other words, if 682 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 2: you're not gonna win a championship, well then you want 683 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 2: a good draft pick. And the Vikings are probably headed 684 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 2: Let's be honest. For the worst case scenario, they're gonna 685 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 2: win enough games to be in the twenties but they're 686 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 2: not gonna win enough games to win a championship. 687 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and again that's exactly what I said week two. 688 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 3: It's going to be a team that gets in the 689 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 3: playoffs ultimately exits the playoffs in the first round. You 690 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 3: don't have a high draft pick and you didn't accomplish 691 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 3: the ultimate goal. 692 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's crazy, man. Now, there are some other 693 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 2: teams out there that are also somewhat involved in the 694 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 2: quarterback drama. Eyes on the Draft will tell you who 695 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 2: we're talking about coming up next on Fox Sports Radio. 696 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 697 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 698 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 699 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: listen live. 700 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 2: Well from a man who made his living not just 701 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 2: by blocking, but receiving the ball from quarterbacks, it's always 702 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 2: about the quarterback. They absolutely, they always have our attention. 703 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 2: And this year in the draft, heck out in the 704 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 2: conference here on the West Coast, the Pac twelve alone, 705 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 2: you could fill up the top ten in the draft 706 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 2: with an amazing quarterbacks on their way into the league. 707 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 2: And Kyle sometimes it's clear cut. In other words, you 708 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 2: could be a team like the Carolina Panthers, you just 709 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 2: drafted a QB and you don't even have your pick. 710 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 2: And then other times it can be clear cut, like 711 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 2: the New England Patriots. You're two and eight, you need 712 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 2: a quarterback. But then I'm fascinated by the teams in 713 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 2: the middle. You're gonna be up there, but what would 714 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 2: you do? So, Hey Chicago Bears, I'm talking to you, 715 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 2: And Hey Arizona Cardinals, I'm talking to you, and Kyle 716 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 2: helped me. New York Giants, I can't even talk to you, right. 717 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I'll start with the New York Giants. I 718 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 3: think the New New York Giants right now as they stand, 719 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 3: in my opinion, they they want the highest pick possible 720 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 3: to get Marvin Harrison Junior. I think they're in a 721 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 3: sweepstakes where it's like, how do we get Marvin Harrison Junior. 722 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,280 Speaker 3: They have not had an elite playmaking wide receiver there, 723 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 3: certainly as Daniel Jones has been the starting quarterback. But 724 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 3: since Odell left, it's been a long time since there's 725 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 3: been a true number one wide receiver in New York. 726 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 3: So I think the New York Giants, you know, they 727 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 3: want to do everything they can to make sure somebody 728 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 3: does not take Marvin Harrison Junior before they can. When 729 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,280 Speaker 3: you talk about the Arizona Cardinals, we saw Kyler Murray 730 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,280 Speaker 3: for the first time today coming back off the ACL injury. 731 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 3: He certainly looked a lot like the Kyler Murray that 732 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 3: we got to know over the beginning of his career, 733 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,720 Speaker 3: running around making all kinds of plays with his legs. Certainly, 734 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,800 Speaker 3: it's gonna be interesting down the stretch with with Kyler 735 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 3: almost as if he's playing to make sure that they 736 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 3: don't have an opportunity to draft one of these quarterbacks 737 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 3: high in the draft. You know you mentioned the Chicago Bears. 738 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 3: I just I can't fathom how they're not taking a 739 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 3: quarterback with Carolina's pick, which as of right now is 740 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,800 Speaker 3: the number one pick, and then they also have their pick, 741 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 3: which most likely is going to be in the top five. 742 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,399 Speaker 3: So you have two picks in the top five. One 743 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 3: you get your quarterback of the future, and then you 744 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 3: could do whatever you want. At the other one, you 745 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 3: could take the best available player, whether that be an 746 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 3: edge rusher that you desperately need, or you know, a 747 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:46,720 Speaker 3: playmaker for that rookie quarterback. So I think in my opinion. 748 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 3: It's pretty cut and dry. Who needs a quarterback and 749 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 3: who doesn't as of right now, and how those things 750 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 3: will shake out. 751 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,879 Speaker 2: We can eliminate the Giants just because of finances, right, 752 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 2: I mean, they're in a spot with Daniel Jones where 753 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,879 Speaker 2: they're in a spot and I'm not even saying he's 754 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 2: necessarily done anything this year to lose the job. Shortly 755 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 2: after signing that big contract. He wasn't good, but he 756 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 2: didn't really have the opportunity to be good, and I 757 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 2: think that's part of what you're talking about. Major injuries 758 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 2: on their offensive line, not a lot of weapons, and 759 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:28,959 Speaker 2: then injuries for himself have basically moved that conversation into 760 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 2: a new direction. When it's week ten and you have 761 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 2: a quarterback who's living at home with his parents, you 762 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 2: know it's not a good year. So that's right, that's 763 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 2: sort of where that whole thing ended up. But okay, 764 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 2: so you talked me off of that one. Daniel's the guy. 765 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 2: Let's go to Arizona for a second, because this situation 766 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 2: to me is fascinating. You can say, hey, Kyler Murray, 767 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 2: you looked pretty good today and you have the contract 768 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 2: that suggests you're but then again, the Cardinals keep telling 769 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,799 Speaker 2: me with their actions that they're not really in love 770 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 2: with Kyler Murray, starting with the whole contract language leak 771 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 2: thing that happened last year and even the way he's 772 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 2: been welcomed back into the fold this year. You could say, hey, 773 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 2: trading Josh Dobbs was the sign that they're all in 774 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:30,439 Speaker 2: on Kyler. Maybe, But I almost was waiting a little 775 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 2: bit for a Justin Jefferson situation. I didn't know if 776 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 2: Kyler was even gonna play this year because I don't 777 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 2: know if the Cardinals want to win games, and today 778 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 2: they did no. 779 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 3: And I think unfortunately, you talk about the contract situation, 780 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,720 Speaker 3: and I think that's what has the Arizona Cardinals married 781 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 3: to Kyler Murray. I don't think they're getting out of 782 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 3: this one. I think their draft pick is more appealing 783 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 3: to people than Kyler Murray. And you know, I think 784 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 3: there's other teams that maybe are sitting in the back 785 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,879 Speaker 3: half of the top ten that you know, Okay, Arizona's 786 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,439 Speaker 3: at two. We know a quarterback's going at one. We're 787 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 3: not sure what's happening at three. If we want to 788 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 3: go get the second quarterback in the draft, we need 789 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 3: to get up to that pick. I think that their 790 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 3: high draft pick is more valuable in terms of trade 791 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray. I just think, especially the way we talk 792 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 3: about rosters being built, and when you have a quarterback 793 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,800 Speaker 3: making over forty five million dollars a year like Kyler Murray, 794 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 3: is it just handcuffs you from a personnel standpoint in 795 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 3: terms of putting other players around him. So again, I think, 796 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 3: you know, it's Kyler's opportunity to be there in Arizona 797 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,319 Speaker 3: and prove to them that, look, you guys pay me 798 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,320 Speaker 3: this contract, this is who I am as a player, 799 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,320 Speaker 3: this is what I'm gonna do, this is what I 800 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 3: bring to the team. And he can show that over 801 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 3: the last month and a half of the season. And 802 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 3: then again, I think if they do have a high 803 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 3: draft pick, certainly the draft picks a whole lot more 804 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 3: valuable than Kyler Murray in terms of trade value. 805 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 2: We're broadcasting live from the tier rack dot Com studios. 806 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,799 Speaker 2: Tire rack dot com will help you get there an 807 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,400 Speaker 2: unmatched selection, fast free shipping, free road hazard protection, and 808 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 2: over ten thousand recommended installers. Ti rack dot com the 809 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 2: way tire buying should be. I just my eyes are 810 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 2: peeled for this, Kyle, because there are these teams out 811 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,320 Speaker 2: there that I feel like they can do this and 812 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,439 Speaker 2: lay in the weeds. The draft picks this year are 813 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 2: even maybe a little bit more valuable then draft picks 814 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 2: normally are, even if you don't want a quarterback. Because 815 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,240 Speaker 2: I'm not saying I think Caleb Williams and Michael Pennix 816 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 2: Junior are all gonna be amazing. I do think they're 817 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 2: gonna be pretty good. But I'm not a scout, get that. 818 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 2: I'm just saying that when there are players like that 819 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 2: on the board, guys who teams think can change the 820 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 2: entire value of a franchise and the outlook potentially for 821 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 2: a decade, that's a that's a more valuable pick. And 822 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 2: so I haven't really seen it yet. I have to 823 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 2: admit I'm like waiting to see it. I'm predicting I'll 824 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 2: see it and then I don't see it. That's what 825 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 2: happened with Arizona today. But I got like, this is 826 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:40,320 Speaker 2: a classic. Somebody should be tanking. Somebody should be tanking 827 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 2: for these guys. I'm not sure yet who it is. 828 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 2: The Vikings were going to do it. Then they won 829 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 2: five in a row the Cardinals were gonna do it. 830 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 2: Then Kyler Murray played. Did the Rams sign Carson Wentz 831 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 2: because they would like to do it? Has Bill Belichick 832 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 2: been doing it all along? Someone should be tanking and 833 00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 2: I haven't figured out who yet. 834 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 3: No, And I think it's just hard. You know, we've 835 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 3: talked about this in uh, just the the nature of 836 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 3: football and the fact that you have, you know, coaches 837 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 3: and players with their jobs on the line. It's one 838 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 3: thing in basketball where there's all these guaranteed contracts and like, look, 839 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 3: if they're telling you, hey, we need to tank here, 840 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 3: you know you're gonna trust the process, We're gonna get 841 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,319 Speaker 3: draft picks, you could buy into that. It's gonna be 842 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 3: really hard to get somebody to buy into that in 843 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 3: the football locker room. But you know, you mentioned it. 844 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,840 Speaker 3: These quarterbacks not only bring value because of the level 845 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,880 Speaker 3: of talent, but again, I can't harp on enough how 846 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 3: much flexibility it gives you as a general manager to 847 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 3: put talent around them and build a roster around this 848 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,800 Speaker 3: young talent with a guy that you're going to have 849 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 3: under contract for thirty million dollars over the next four years. 850 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 3: The alternative to get a good quarterback is twenty million 851 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 3: dollars more than that a year, So you know, you 852 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,320 Speaker 3: see it out there in the Bay Area with San Francisco. 853 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,919 Speaker 3: We talk about brock Perdy's situation all the time. He's 854 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 3: making eight hundred thousand dollars this year. That allows them 855 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:20,360 Speaker 3: to have just talent galore across, you know, every other position. 856 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 3: So if the talent of the quarterback isn't enough to 857 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 3: make you want to get up there to take one 858 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 3: of them, setting your roster up for the next five 859 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 3: years should be the other part that makes you want 860 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:34,880 Speaker 3: to get up there to get one of those quarterbacks. 861 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 2: I want to ask you about that since you brought 862 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 2: it up, and we'll do that coming up a little bit. 863 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,360 Speaker 2: You probably would not or maybe you would believe some 864 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 2: of the things that have been said this week coming 865 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 2: out of a bye Like going into a bye week 866 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,799 Speaker 2: on a three game losing streak. I don't recommend that 867 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:56,240 Speaker 2: for any city, because my god, it is two weeks 868 00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 2: of completely freaking out, and the opinions that get generated 869 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,880 Speaker 2: is just like it's like going on a bender, like 870 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 2: how long can we can we go without sleep? And 871 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,279 Speaker 2: after three days the things that you say, you're like 872 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,839 Speaker 2: my man, you're not making any sense anymore. And that's 873 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 2: kind of what just happened to the forty nine or 874 00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,400 Speaker 2: fan base. Two weeks of sitting there trying to unpack 875 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 2: a three game losing streak, and yes, it landed all 876 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,240 Speaker 2: the way at I don't know about our quarterback position, 877 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 2: very very odd behavior. I want to ask you about that, 878 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh as well. That situation with Michigan will get 879 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 2: to all of it. We're brought to you by Progressive Insurance. 880 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,640 Speaker 2: Progressive makes bundling easy and affordable. Get a multi policy 881 00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,359 Speaker 2: discount by combining your motorcycle, RV, boat, ATV and more 882 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,840 Speaker 2: all your protection in one place. Bundle and save at 883 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,279 Speaker 2: Progressive dot Com. That's Kyle Rudolph. I'm Mark Willard. It's 884 00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 2: Week ten in the NFL, and this is Fox Sports Radio. Alright. 885 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:07,800 Speaker 2: We live in the Tyrak dot Com studios with Kyle Rudolph. 886 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 2: I'm Mark Willard. So I don't know if you'll believe this. 887 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 2: Maybe you will believe this, but brock Perty's job status 888 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 2: on some level actually has become a thing, not a 889 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 2: big thing, but even I mean even during even during 890 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 2: one of our commercial breaks about a half hour ago. 891 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 2: I hear the conversation that took place over the last 892 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 2: week with Chris Brusard and Rob Parker, and It's like, Okay, 893 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 2: how many more bad games before we start talking about 894 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 2: Sam Darnold? How many more bad games before we discuss 895 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 2: the future of the quarterback position in San Francisco? And 896 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:02,279 Speaker 2: I'm thinking to myself, for get anybody's fandom, forget what 897 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 2: you think about a certain player. I'm a huge fan 898 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,440 Speaker 2: of Brock Party. I think he's a really good young player. 899 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 2: So maybe I'm not the right guy to even have 900 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:17,719 Speaker 2: this conversation. I don't want to bias to overwhelm. Just 901 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,399 Speaker 2: look at it from a business standpoint, because of what 902 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 2: you just said ten minutes ago. Do you understand what 903 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,280 Speaker 2: would have to take place? Forget the rest of this year, Kyle, 904 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,760 Speaker 2: I'm not talking about next week. I'm not talking about December. 905 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 2: I'm talking about September of next year to understand what 906 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 2: would have to happen for the forty nine ers to 907 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 2: not want Brock Party to be their starting quarterback next year. 908 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:51,239 Speaker 2: Do you understand the cataclysmic disaster that would have to 909 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,399 Speaker 2: take place for them to decide? You know what we 910 00:53:54,480 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 2: think Brock is so bad that we would rather have 911 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:06,360 Speaker 2: a different quarterback than him. Plus, we'd also rather not 912 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:11,279 Speaker 2: have Brandon aiyuk team, we'd rather not even discuss the 913 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 2: idea of keeping Chase Young. And we probably need to 914 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 2: make some sort of a high price cut. I don't 915 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 2: know if it's Trent Williams or Kyle Uschek or I'm 916 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 2: not sure, but let's gather a collection of really good 917 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:33,360 Speaker 2: football players and send them all out the door because 918 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 2: we hate brock Purty that much. That's what would have 919 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 2: to happen forget this year, for him to not be 920 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 2: the QB next year. 921 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 3: No, that's exactly it. If we've talked about the way 922 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 3: this forty nine Ers roster is built, and they ultimately 923 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 3: made that decision when they moved on from Jimmy Garoppolo, 924 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 3: they said, look, we'd rather pay a quarterback a lot 925 00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:03,799 Speaker 3: less money. That's why they drafted Trey Lance. Again, was 926 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 3: it the upside that they saw in Trey Lance, the 927 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 3: value that they saw in Trey Lance? I don't know. 928 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,680 Speaker 3: I'm not John Lynch, I'm not in their draft meetings, 929 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 3: but I do know this that when you jump up 930 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 3: there in the top three and you take a quarterback. 931 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:24,680 Speaker 3: It allows you to have one thing for certain, over 932 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:29,280 Speaker 3: the next four years. Because it's a four year contract, 933 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 3: you have endless resources and an abundance of money to 934 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,719 Speaker 3: put talent around that quarterback. If you are going to 935 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,640 Speaker 3: acquire a veteran quarterback and that's how you're going to 936 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,839 Speaker 3: fill the position, well that's going to cost you. And 937 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,600 Speaker 3: if you're the San Francisco forty nine ers, you mentioned 938 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,760 Speaker 3: the list of high paid current players on the roster 939 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 3: that maybe one of them would have to go or 940 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:03,839 Speaker 3: you start walking around talking about pay cuts. Also, Chase Young, 941 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 3: you just trade it for him. You brought him in 942 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:09,000 Speaker 3: the building. He's not under contract after this year. You know, 943 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,120 Speaker 3: what do you do with him? Is that somebody that 944 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 3: you're trying to keep long term. You have a lot 945 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 3: more flexibility and freedom when brock Perty's your quarterback Week 946 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 3: one him next year than you do if you're playing 947 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:27,320 Speaker 3: with even a middle of the road veteran quarterback. 948 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,880 Speaker 2: And then that actually leaves out the other part of 949 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 2: the conversation, which is, my god, are we are we 950 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 2: overdoing what happened the last three weeks or what? Like? 951 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 2: I I just I don't understand if if that was 952 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:53,239 Speaker 2: sort of the thought process that a couple of interceptions 953 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,839 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter followed by a couple of interceptions 954 00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,960 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, nobody's gonna say that those are 955 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,560 Speaker 2: good things. Like he wasn't as good a player the 956 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,480 Speaker 2: last three weeks as he was the five weeks prior 957 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:07,680 Speaker 2: to that. But if it was that tenuous, right, if 958 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 2: it was that flimsy, I don't know why we had 959 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,160 Speaker 2: this as a super Bowl favorite to begin with. You 960 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:20,760 Speaker 2: don't go from super Bowl favorite to a quarterback controversy 961 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:25,560 Speaker 2: in a span of fifteen days. I just, I like, 962 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,760 Speaker 2: I don't even understand that that sort of thought process 963 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,440 Speaker 2: with regard to what we've seen. We're still talking about 964 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:39,520 Speaker 2: the second rated quarterback in the National Football League. But somehow, 965 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 2: and I know we know the story where he was 966 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,720 Speaker 2: drafted and just whatever Kyle Shanahan's offense, all the talent 967 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,840 Speaker 2: around him, I get it. But for some reason, we've 968 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 2: ended up in a spot where we're going to continue 969 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:59,920 Speaker 2: this week to week narrative as opposed to what I 970 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 2: think is already the case, which is that brock Perty's 971 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:08,240 Speaker 2: leash is incredibly long. It's incredibly long, Like we're not 972 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:13,280 Speaker 2: we're not we're not talking about or thinking about benching 973 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,200 Speaker 2: this guy anytime soon. 974 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 3: No, And I think again it goes back to what 975 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:24,240 Speaker 3: we've seen as a whole, you know, the body of 976 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:28,640 Speaker 3: work since he became the starting quarterback last year against 977 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:33,240 Speaker 3: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to now. But then also again 978 00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:39,320 Speaker 3: looking forward, are you going to go find a better 979 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:43,680 Speaker 3: quarterback for less than one point one million dollars over 980 00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 3: the next two years. He makes nine eighty five next 981 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,320 Speaker 3: year and one point one in twenty five. So if 982 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 3: you're the San Francisco forty nine ers, you have probably 983 00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,959 Speaker 3: ninety nine and a half percent of your salary cap 984 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,520 Speaker 3: available for the rest of your roster. Assuming that the 985 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,520 Speaker 3: salary cap stays over two hundred million dollars like it 986 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,760 Speaker 3: will the next two years. You're paying your starting quarterback 987 00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,480 Speaker 3: nine eighty five and one point one. That allows you 988 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,440 Speaker 3: to have so much talent around him, and you know 989 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,920 Speaker 3: that when is brock Purty successful, we just saw it 990 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,920 Speaker 3: over the last three weeks. Why did he struggle? He 991 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,520 Speaker 3: struggled because he didn't have the talent around him. Now, 992 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,040 Speaker 3: people could say all the time, well, that's why he's good, 993 00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,200 Speaker 3: because he has all that talent. It's like, well, is 994 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 3: that why he's good or he knows how to use 995 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 3: the talent? You know, you can't clearly all that talent 996 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,600 Speaker 3: didn't work for Trey Lance. So let's let's give the 997 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:41,600 Speaker 3: kids some credit. And I say all of that to 998 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 3: come back to the point and propose the real issue, 999 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 3: which again we've talked about this at some point over 1000 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,520 Speaker 3: our show the last ten weeks, that in San Francisco 1001 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:57,400 Speaker 3: hopes they have this problem. It's in the twenty twenty 1002 00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 3: six off season when Brock Party has hopefully won you 1003 01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:05,840 Speaker 3: a championship and has played well, then what do you do? 1004 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 3: Are are you We're so far down the road, But 1005 01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,440 Speaker 3: it's that's the question in my mind that should be asked, 1006 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,800 Speaker 3: is how are they prepared? You know, is this something 1007 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,920 Speaker 3: that maybe after twenty twenty four you try to get 1008 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,200 Speaker 3: it done early because who knows what quarterbacks are going 1009 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,160 Speaker 3: to be making in twenty twenty six. 1010 01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point because we sit here now 1011 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,760 Speaker 2: and a lot of people don't even know this, but 1012 01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 2: collective Bargaining Agreement states and is such Rock Party can't 1013 01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 2: even ask for a contract extension until after next season. 1014 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,400 Speaker 2: He can't even ask for one after that they're not 1015 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:46,200 Speaker 2: even allowed to negotiate a new contract for him after 1016 01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:49,440 Speaker 2: this season. So you're gonna get all kinds of data. 1017 01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,880 Speaker 2: You're gonna get how does this season go, You're gonna 1018 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 2: get how does next season go? And then you get 1019 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,160 Speaker 2: to sit there and look at the lay of the land, 1020 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,720 Speaker 2: look at the the financial landscape of your team and 1021 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:07,280 Speaker 2: what it costs on the quarterbacking side of it, and 1022 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:11,240 Speaker 2: then decide what you want to do. And by then, man, 1023 01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,200 Speaker 2: I think you know, McCaffrey is gonna be about thirty, 1024 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,720 Speaker 2: Trent Williams might be retired, the Niners will probably have 1025 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:21,360 Speaker 2: figured out some new things in their receiver room. That's 1026 01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,120 Speaker 2: going to be about the end of Deebo's new contract, 1027 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,480 Speaker 2: or it'll be in a spot where they could move 1028 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,120 Speaker 2: on from it if they wanted, Like then they can 1029 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,960 Speaker 2: reboot everything if they have to or if they want to. 1030 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 2: But it's not something they can even think about until 1031 01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:40,160 Speaker 2: after next season. And I'm very confident Kyle that they won't. 1032 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:44,160 Speaker 3: No, and they and they shouldn't. And it's it's funny 1033 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 3: because the only reason that that is the case is 1034 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:54,000 Speaker 3: because rock Perty was mister irrelevant. If he was not 1035 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,600 Speaker 3: taken with the last pick in the draft. If he 1036 01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,720 Speaker 3: would have been the first drafted free agent, phone call 1037 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,600 Speaker 3: the forty nine ers mate and said, hey, I know 1038 01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,680 Speaker 3: you know, we didn't draft you, but we love to 1039 01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,880 Speaker 3: have you come out here, and they signed him as 1040 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,320 Speaker 3: an undrafted free agent. He could then go to them 1041 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:16,400 Speaker 3: after this offseason and get a contract, but because he 1042 01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,800 Speaker 3: was drafted, he has to play three years before he 1043 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:23,360 Speaker 3: can get a second contract. So the forty nine ers 1044 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,400 Speaker 3: have him this year and next year before they can 1045 01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,240 Speaker 3: even do anything. Both of those years he makes less 1046 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,120 Speaker 3: than a million dollars a year. It gives them so 1047 01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:35,360 Speaker 3: much flexibility to put the talent around him that we 1048 01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:39,560 Speaker 3: saw today. They beat a really really good football team 1049 01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:44,960 Speaker 3: handedly today and it's like they yeah, yeah, so again. 1050 01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,479 Speaker 3: And that's that to me. That's why when you say 1051 01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,760 Speaker 3: who do you like when they're playing their best football, 1052 01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 3: it's the San Francisco forty nine ers, because they can 1053 01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,480 Speaker 3: just beat you so many ways on both sides of 1054 01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:57,800 Speaker 3: the ball. 1055 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,840 Speaker 2: I hear you. Yeah. The idea moving on from brock 1056 01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:06,320 Speaker 2: Perty is essentially a whole van full of players. If 1057 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,680 Speaker 2: you're suggesting that the Niners go in a different direction, 1058 01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:13,200 Speaker 2: So do not expect that they will. We'd love to 1059 01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:17,480 Speaker 2: hear what you think before we continue with anything NFL related, 1060 01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,760 Speaker 2: or heck, maybe it is NFL related. We'd love to 1061 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,440 Speaker 2: hear what you think about the Jim Harbaugh situation and 1062 01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:26,080 Speaker 2: how it played out over the weekend. We'll do that 1063 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,600 Speaker 2: in a little bit, but right now, let's get Nick 1064 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,640 Speaker 2: Cope in here, find out what's trending out and about 1065 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:32,800 Speaker 2: Hey Nick, Oh. 1066 01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:33,640 Speaker 6: What's going on? Guys? 1067 01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:37,040 Speaker 7: Keeping track on Sunday night football in Las Vegas. It's 1068 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,120 Speaker 7: pretty much gone as expected all field goals so far, 1069 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,920 Speaker 7: Jets leading the Raiders nine to three, getting late in 1070 01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,920 Speaker 7: the second quarter, but the Raiders are starting to put 1071 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:46,800 Speaker 7: a drive together. 1072 01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:47,919 Speaker 6: They just took a big sack. 1073 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,720 Speaker 7: They got second in eighteen from the plus thirty four 1074 01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,560 Speaker 7: yard line. Really the best bit of offense we've seen 1075 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:57,600 Speaker 7: from the Raiders. During the broadcast, NBC sideline reporter Melissa 1076 01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:01,040 Speaker 7: Stark said that Aaron Rodgers told her his goal is 1077 01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:05,840 Speaker 7: to return in mid December, so take that as you may. 1078 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,400 Speaker 7: Finals in the NFL today, the Lions edging the Chargers 1079 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,480 Speaker 7: forty one to thirty eight. The teams combined for about 1080 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,760 Speaker 7: nine hundred and fifty yards. Detroit second in the NFC 1081 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,680 Speaker 7: at seven to two. Seahawks beat the Commanders twenty nine 1082 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,480 Speaker 7: to twenty six on a walkoff field goal forty nine, 1083 01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,400 Speaker 7: Ers snapping their three game losing streak with that big 1084 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,400 Speaker 7: win over the Jaguars. San Francisco and Seattle remain tied 1085 01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:31,120 Speaker 7: to top the NFC West. Texans had perhaps the upset 1086 01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,440 Speaker 7: of the day, taking on the Red Hop Bengals. They 1087 01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,440 Speaker 7: get a field goal as time expired in Cincinnati, thirty 1088 01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:39,160 Speaker 7: to twenty seven. In the final, teams have matching five 1089 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 7: to four records. Browns trailed for nearly the entire game, 1090 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,160 Speaker 7: had to erase a fourteen point fourth quarter deficit, but 1091 01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,160 Speaker 7: they get a walkoff field goal to beat the Ravens 1092 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,440 Speaker 7: thirty three to thirty one. Steelers held off the Packers 1093 01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,520 Speaker 7: twenty three to nineteen. All four teams in the AFC 1094 01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,760 Speaker 7: North are separated by just one game in the lost column. 1095 01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,160 Speaker 7: Vikings won their fifth in a row twenty seven to 1096 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,080 Speaker 7: nineteen over the Saints. Cowboys blew out the Giants forty 1097 01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,000 Speaker 7: nine to seventeen. Cardinals got a walk off field goals 1098 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,360 Speaker 7: to beat the Falcons twenty five twenty three. As Kyler 1099 01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,200 Speaker 7: Murray returned for Arizona. 1100 01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:10,680 Speaker 6: Atlanta. 1101 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,520 Speaker 7: Quarterback Taylor Heineke left the game with a hamstring injury 1102 01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:17,120 Speaker 7: and Desmond Ritter came in played well, gave the Falcons 1103 01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,600 Speaker 7: a chance to win, and after the game, coach Arthur 1104 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,440 Speaker 7: Smith suggested they will have a decision to make about 1105 01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:26,160 Speaker 7: who will be their starting quarterback moving forward. Buccaneers over 1106 01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:27,600 Speaker 7: the Titans twenty to six. 1107 01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:28,520 Speaker 6: Colts. 1108 01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:31,320 Speaker 7: They win that ugly game in Germany against the Patriots 1109 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,320 Speaker 7: ten to six. Indy at five and five and one. 1110 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,640 Speaker 7: Quick note in the NBA, Tyrese Maxi scored fifty tonight 1111 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,200 Speaker 7: for the seventy six ers. They beat the Pacers one 1112 01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,880 Speaker 7: thirty seven to one twenty six. Philly is now eight 1113 01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,480 Speaker 7: to one on the season. Mark Kyle, back to you guys. 1114 01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:48,960 Speaker 2: All right, great, Steph Nick, we'll talk to you again 1115 01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,280 Speaker 2: in an hour. We are live in the tie rack 1116 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,880 Speaker 2: dot Com studios. Hey, before we get to harball real quick, 1117 01:05:55,400 --> 01:06:00,480 Speaker 2: what do you think is realistic here? And what actors 1118 01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,880 Speaker 2: are in play? The idea of Aaron Rodgers returning. What 1119 01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:05,640 Speaker 2: do you think we're gonna see here? 1120 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:11,400 Speaker 3: I think we're gonna see a guy who you know 1121 01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:15,680 Speaker 3: we talked about that three week practice window with Justin Jefferson. 1122 01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,920 Speaker 3: You know that that's ultimately what Aaron is facing. You know, 1123 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,200 Speaker 3: when he decides that, hey, I feel good enough to 1124 01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:24,120 Speaker 3: give this a shot, he gets three weeks to come 1125 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,640 Speaker 3: back and practice and and then ultimately decide, Okay, I 1126 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,960 Speaker 3: felt good enough at practice over the course of the 1127 01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,920 Speaker 3: that period of time to give it a go. And 1128 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,840 Speaker 3: I've said this all along. There are certain people, certain 1129 01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:41,560 Speaker 3: guys in our league that you just never bet against them. 1130 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,320 Speaker 3: You just never count them out. You know. They they 1131 01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:51,959 Speaker 3: use the doubt and disbelief almost as motivation to prove 1132 01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:55,320 Speaker 3: you wrong. And and I feel like that's where Aaron is. 1133 01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:58,000 Speaker 3: And you know, we went through their schedule a couple 1134 01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,560 Speaker 3: of weeks ago and looked at, you know, potentially where 1135 01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,400 Speaker 3: they could be around Christmas time. And you know, to 1136 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:08,360 Speaker 3: me personally, that's kind of where I see this starting 1137 01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:11,640 Speaker 3: to become a realistic possibility. 1138 01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:18,080 Speaker 2: I tell you what I does the does the record 1139 01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,640 Speaker 2: affect it like it? Do you think that that's going 1140 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,520 Speaker 2: on as well? Like you said the Justin Jefferson situation, 1141 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:29,000 Speaker 2: for a while, I'm looking at this going. Man, It's 1142 01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:32,040 Speaker 2: like with each win, this puts pressure here, It puts 1143 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:35,200 Speaker 2: pressure over there. The Jets are up by six points 1144 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,280 Speaker 2: right now, they win this and they've they've they've got 1145 01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:43,080 Speaker 2: a winning record. Is Aaron only coming back if the 1146 01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:46,960 Speaker 2: Jets can sort of smell a playoff run? 1147 01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:53,000 Speaker 3: And I think had things gone poorly for the Jets 1148 01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:57,880 Speaker 3: following Week one when Aaron got injured, Quite honestly, I 1149 01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,680 Speaker 3: don't even think that these would be conversations we're having 1150 01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:05,840 Speaker 3: or stories that we're listening to or reading. It just 1151 01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:09,280 Speaker 3: simply would not make sense for Aaron to come back 1152 01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,800 Speaker 3: to a team that's mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. So 1153 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,680 Speaker 3: you know, certainly that that plays into it as well, 1154 01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,320 Speaker 3: with his his three week window that he would have 1155 01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:22,360 Speaker 3: coming off of IRU, it allows him time to not 1156 01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:26,160 Speaker 3: only see how he feels physically out at practice moving around, 1157 01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:30,720 Speaker 3: but also you know, are we within striking distance? You know? 1158 01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:34,760 Speaker 3: Can I come back and ultimately give this team a 1159 01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:39,200 Speaker 3: shot at just having a chance. All they need is 1160 01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:42,559 Speaker 3: to get in. And it's like this roster we've talked 1161 01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,920 Speaker 3: about it, it's built for a Super Bowl championship. It's 1162 01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:50,280 Speaker 3: got talent all over the place. And oh, by the way, 1163 01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:54,120 Speaker 3: their last game of the year is against the Patriots, 1164 01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:59,880 Speaker 3: so It's like if they're at a point where jen 1165 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:04,479 Speaker 3: Uuary seventh, it's when and we're in you're playing the 1166 01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:07,400 Speaker 3: New England Patriots and you know who knows will be 1167 01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:08,679 Speaker 3: their quarterback at that time? 1168 01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, might be able to win that with with just 1169 01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:15,720 Speaker 2: about anybody, and who knows where the Patriots quarterback will 1170 01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:20,040 Speaker 2: be at that point. Okay, I've been real curious to 1171 01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,760 Speaker 2: get everybody's sort of response on this. Everywhere I went 1172 01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,880 Speaker 2: this weekend, people wanted to know, like, what do you 1173 01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:31,360 Speaker 2: think about the hardball situation as far as being pulled 1174 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,840 Speaker 2: off of the sideline and then getting the victory? And 1175 01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:38,160 Speaker 2: you got an assistant coach who was i mean driven 1176 01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:43,360 Speaker 2: to an incredibly emotional response. Led to some very interesting 1177 01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:45,960 Speaker 2: live television with all kinds of words they're not allowed 1178 01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,560 Speaker 2: to use. So that was a ton of fun. But 1179 01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,600 Speaker 2: but what do you think? First off, what do you 1180 01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:54,120 Speaker 2: think with the way that college football has handled this 1181 01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:54,680 Speaker 2: whole thing. 1182 01:09:56,479 --> 01:10:00,479 Speaker 3: I think it's the way college football ultimately handles everything poorly. 1183 01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:06,800 Speaker 3: It's you know again, it's we we talk about the NCAA, 1184 01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 3: and you know, as soon as they think they're high 1185 01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:13,759 Speaker 3: and mighty, we have stuff like head coaches making seventy 1186 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,200 Speaker 3: six point eight million dollars, not to coach, and just 1187 01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,680 Speaker 3: the whole way that they've handled this. It's it's, you know, 1188 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:25,880 Speaker 3: if you feel like there is something there that has 1189 01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:31,960 Speaker 3: created a competitive advantage, either handle it or say you're 1190 01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,000 Speaker 3: going to handle it after the season. You know, either 1191 01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,240 Speaker 3: do it or say we're going to come back to 1192 01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:40,400 Speaker 3: it after the season. The whole you know, waiting till 1193 01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:45,479 Speaker 3: Saturday afternoon to ultimately make a decision and pull Harball 1194 01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:49,040 Speaker 3: off the sidelines, and like just either do it or 1195 01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:52,000 Speaker 3: don't you know, And again, I don't know enough about 1196 01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:56,280 Speaker 3: the situation. I haven't done my research or my homework 1197 01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:59,080 Speaker 3: enough to to to speak one way or the other. 1198 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:03,280 Speaker 3: But ultimately it's like, again we talk about the NCUBA, 1199 01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:07,280 Speaker 3: and who who do we talk about that it is about? 1200 01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:12,479 Speaker 3: When we talk about the NCUBA, it's about the student athletes. Well, 1201 01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:16,720 Speaker 3: let's make sure we're not punishing the student athletes for 1202 01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,800 Speaker 3: something that they may have had nothing to do with. 1203 01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:24,439 Speaker 3: So again it's like either figure it out and make 1204 01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:30,200 Speaker 3: a decision and have evidence that supports your decision, or say, look, 1205 01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:33,360 Speaker 3: there's just too much to unpack here. We will visit 1206 01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,520 Speaker 3: this after the season. And do a thorough investigation. 1207 01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,919 Speaker 2: I think that that's calm. I think that that's reasoned. 1208 01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:44,559 Speaker 2: I think that that all makes sense. However, I also 1209 01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:49,120 Speaker 2: think Michigan acted the victim in a way that maybe 1210 01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:52,439 Speaker 2: they shouldn't have a little more on this coming up 1211 01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:54,800 Speaker 2: next with Kyle Rudolph. I'm Mark Willard and this is 1212 01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:58,240 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. All right. We're in the tie rag 1213 01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:01,280 Speaker 2: dot Com studios. Mark it than Kyle Rudolf with you 1214 01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:05,280 Speaker 2: on a Sunday night. Glad you're with us here week 1215 01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,639 Speaker 2: ten in the National Football League Center Focus. But we've 1216 01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:12,639 Speaker 2: been working through the Jim Harbaugh situation as well. Kyle, 1217 01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,560 Speaker 2: I wonder what your what your thoughts are? This is 1218 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:19,160 Speaker 2: kind of broad question, but like emotion in sports, it 1219 01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,840 Speaker 2: it's a great thing. But the famous line from Leaving 1220 01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,160 Speaker 2: their Own that everybody likes to use, there's no crying 1221 01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:29,960 Speaker 2: in baseball. You know, Caleb Williams is uh Is crying 1222 01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,719 Speaker 2: in the stands with his mom a couple of weeks ago. 1223 01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:36,040 Speaker 2: There's no crying in football. There's no crying in this that. 1224 01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:39,840 Speaker 2: I think there's crying everywhere personally, but that's just a movie. 1225 01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:43,479 Speaker 2: What what are your thoughts on that sort of public 1226 01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:47,919 Speaker 2: emotional response to sports in general. 1227 01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:55,120 Speaker 3: I mean, I think there's there's a time and a 1228 01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:59,280 Speaker 3: place for it. I don't know that either of the 1229 01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:02,120 Speaker 3: examples that you just mentioned would warrant being the time 1230 01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:06,120 Speaker 3: or place for it. And it's just you know, again, 1231 01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:09,280 Speaker 3: you you mentioned Michigan kind of playing the victim card, 1232 01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:13,799 Speaker 3: and I could have been Michigan's head coach on Saturday 1233 01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:17,160 Speaker 3: and we would have beat Penn State. Penn State sticks everybody. 1234 01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:18,720 Speaker 3: You know, It's like there's two good teams in the 1235 01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:23,640 Speaker 3: Big Ten and there's everyone else. So you know, I 1236 01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,479 Speaker 3: get it. That's a coach that you know, goes to 1237 01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,840 Speaker 3: work every single day. You know, they put the hours in, 1238 01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,680 Speaker 3: they put the time in. You know, you're trying to 1239 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:35,920 Speaker 3: prepare your players to go out and win a football game. 1240 01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:38,960 Speaker 3: But you know, ultimately you just beat a very average 1241 01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:43,200 Speaker 3: football team. You know, it is what it is. It 1242 01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:44,880 Speaker 3: would be one thing if that was Ohio State on 1243 01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:49,080 Speaker 3: the other sideline and this happened that week. So I 1244 01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:50,800 Speaker 3: think that again, I think there's a time and a 1245 01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:57,120 Speaker 3: place for it. Certainly after losing with the USC that's 1246 01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:59,040 Speaker 3: our third loss or fourth loss. 1247 01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,519 Speaker 2: I've lost track. Yeah me too, Yeah, I think at 1248 01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:05,720 Speaker 2: the time at the time it was their third. 1249 01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:11,479 Speaker 3: Yes, sure, correct, yes, yes, I don't know. I mean, 1250 01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:15,519 Speaker 3: what's gonna happen next year? Like, is that why you've 1251 01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,040 Speaker 3: picked a list of five teams that you're willing to 1252 01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,280 Speaker 3: play for? Because you know, if if you go play 1253 01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,160 Speaker 3: on the worst team in the NFL, you you might 1254 01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:26,559 Speaker 3: have three losses by October first. You know, it's like 1255 01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:32,320 Speaker 3: there's gonna be a lot more trying times and adversity 1256 01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:37,400 Speaker 3: throughout your course, throughout your career as a quarterback. And 1257 01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:42,880 Speaker 3: if you're crying after a loss in college and to me, 1258 01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,680 Speaker 3: I don't I don't buy the you know, emotionally invested, 1259 01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,880 Speaker 3: poured my heart out, you know, like, no, I'm not 1260 01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:51,920 Speaker 3: buying that interesting. 1261 01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I was thinking, maybe we don't know what 1262 01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,920 Speaker 2: he said to his mom. Maybe it's like, mom, Belichick 1263 01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:00,599 Speaker 2: looks really mean, and I might I might end up there. Now. 1264 01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:02,640 Speaker 2: I don't know what he was saying to her, but 1265 01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:07,719 Speaker 2: I'll circle back to that. Sharon Moore, the interim coach 1266 01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:12,759 Speaker 2: from Michigan. Look, we all are cut from a different cloth. 1267 01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:16,040 Speaker 2: Many of us have emotions on our sleeve. Some people 1268 01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:19,080 Speaker 2: don't even cry at funerals and so I like, not 1269 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,960 Speaker 2: here to talk about like when emotion is supposed to 1270 01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,480 Speaker 2: come up, because it's often totally out of our control. 1271 01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:30,360 Speaker 2: But this one just felt weird to me, and it 1272 01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:38,439 Speaker 2: didn't feel clean to see Michigan sort of have, at 1273 01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:42,360 Speaker 2: least the face of their program for the day say 1274 01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,760 Speaker 2: what he said. It wasn't so much the tears, it 1275 01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:49,800 Speaker 2: was what he said. We can all sit here, and 1276 01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:52,360 Speaker 2: maybe not all of us, but I think most of 1277 01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:56,240 Speaker 2: us can agree. It was a very clunky way that 1278 01:15:56,280 --> 01:16:00,439 Speaker 2: this was handled by the powers that be. But at 1279 01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,920 Speaker 2: the same time, I'm certainly not here to be like 1280 01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:09,720 Speaker 2: and Jim Harbaugh is the victim. Oh my gosh, I 1281 01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:15,200 Speaker 2: can't believe that this has been done to Michigan. Wow, 1282 01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:19,080 Speaker 2: they become the sympathetic figure of college football. Get out 1283 01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:22,200 Speaker 2: of here, Get out of here with that, Like, no, 1284 01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:26,160 Speaker 2: we don't know what happened, but we're pretty sure something, did, 1285 01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:29,519 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like if the TCU coaches 1286 01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:33,320 Speaker 2: put dummy plays out there last year and you suddenly 1287 01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,880 Speaker 2: literally could not one play go your way, well there's 1288 01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:42,840 Speaker 2: probably something to it. So I like, yes, due process, Yes, 1289 01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,439 Speaker 2: let's figure it all out before you really move forward. 1290 01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:51,920 Speaker 2: But Michigan the victim. I'm sorry, I just I couldn't 1291 01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,120 Speaker 2: wrap my head around that one. 1292 01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:56,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not buying that either. And you know, again 1293 01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:01,720 Speaker 3: I just go back to, you know, as members of 1294 01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:06,040 Speaker 3: the media, it's our job to throughout the course of 1295 01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:11,800 Speaker 3: the week make that game bigger than it is. It's 1296 01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:17,360 Speaker 3: Fox's job. They have big noon Saturday there, like, right, 1297 01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,599 Speaker 3: we want to make this seam you know, a huge deal. 1298 01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:25,840 Speaker 3: A top ten matchup Penn State Michigan. Again, Penn State, 1299 01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:29,960 Speaker 3: their offense thinks it didn't matter who the head coach 1300 01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:33,479 Speaker 3: was on that team, Michigan was gonna win that game. 1301 01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:38,719 Speaker 3: And they're you know, gearing up for the rivalry game, 1302 01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:42,639 Speaker 3: the last game of the season against Ohio State. So again, 1303 01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:47,280 Speaker 3: that's where in my opinion, whether it's you know, Michigan 1304 01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:55,160 Speaker 3: and their challenges or mindset internally playing the victim card 1305 01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:59,680 Speaker 3: or using it as motivation, whatever you do, do it, 1306 01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,240 Speaker 3: go for it. And certainly if I was in that 1307 01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:06,400 Speaker 3: locker room, I would use it as motivation as well. 1308 01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,760 Speaker 3: On the flip side from the Big ten, I felt 1309 01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:14,280 Speaker 3: like it was one of these things where they just well, 1310 01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,639 Speaker 3: we had to do something, you know, we were getting 1311 01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:21,200 Speaker 3: pressure from everyone, but yet we didn't really want to 1312 01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:26,360 Speaker 3: do anything. And that's where they settled as, Okay, perfect, 1313 01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:30,960 Speaker 3: we're gonna make it seem like we're taking action, but 1314 01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,479 Speaker 3: we're really not taking too much of action. 1315 01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:38,719 Speaker 2: Well, you can always tell whenever a piece of news 1316 01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:42,599 Speaker 2: sort of filters out and then whoever is in charge 1317 01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:45,240 Speaker 2: just lets it kind of sit there for a beat. 1318 01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:49,519 Speaker 2: Let's sit there day, two days, three days. And what 1319 01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:53,080 Speaker 2: they're doing is I think it's like they're dipping their 1320 01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:55,920 Speaker 2: toe in the water. Let's get the public's sort of 1321 01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:59,360 Speaker 2: thought on this. How much heat is there? How much anger? 1322 01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:04,280 Speaker 2: This one? It didn't really quiet down, it didn't really 1323 01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:07,080 Speaker 2: go away. You had other coaches start to talk about it, 1324 01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,920 Speaker 2: and it kept sort of feeling like, Okay, what are 1325 01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:12,760 Speaker 2: you gonna do? What are you gonna do? So I 1326 01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,920 Speaker 2: think that speaks to what you're talking about. This wasn't 1327 01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:18,920 Speaker 2: the right thing. It was just something, and that's what 1328 01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:20,200 Speaker 2: they felt like they needed to do. 1329 01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:23,320 Speaker 3: I couldn't agree more. 1330 01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:29,479 Speaker 2: All right, I tell you what, Mark Willard, Kyle Rudolph, 1331 01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:33,040 Speaker 2: and I'm looking at the standings in the NFL right now, 1332 01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:36,840 Speaker 2: they've reached the half in the Sunday Night Football game, 1333 01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,800 Speaker 2: and when you look at it right now, I've always 1334 01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:42,799 Speaker 2: said this in the off season in the NFL, we 1335 01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:45,920 Speaker 2: we all have our division by division predictions and I 1336 01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:47,800 Speaker 2: always look at them in August and I go, well, 1337 01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,320 Speaker 2: one thing, I know for sure it's not going to 1338 01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:56,000 Speaker 2: look like that, because we're never always right. This year, 1339 01:19:56,640 --> 01:20:01,200 Speaker 2: the way it's stacking out Bills and Dolphins and Ravens 1340 01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:04,439 Speaker 2: and Jags and Chiefs and Eagles and Lions and Saints 1341 01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:09,240 Speaker 2: and Niners, it's like, oh my goodness, that's exactly what 1342 01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:13,160 Speaker 2: we thought it was gonna look like. So the party 1343 01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:17,320 Speaker 2: crashers or the potential ones is where we'll go. Coming 1344 01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:19,759 Speaker 2: up next on Fox Sports Radio. 1345 01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,800 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 1346 01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:26,200 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 1347 01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:30,439 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 1348 01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:31,200 Speaker 1: listen live. 1349 01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:34,920 Speaker 2: There are usually some surprises in the NFL, and there 1350 01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:38,040 Speaker 2: may be this year as well. However, most of the 1351 01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:42,320 Speaker 2: divisions are going, I don't know, pretty much exactly like 1352 01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,920 Speaker 2: we thought they were going to go. We'll talk about 1353 01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,280 Speaker 2: all of that as we're broadcasting live from the ti 1354 01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:51,559 Speaker 2: rank dot Com studios. Ty rank dot Com will help 1355 01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,920 Speaker 2: you get there an unmatched selection, fast, free shipping, free 1356 01:20:55,040 --> 01:21:00,880 Speaker 2: roadhazard protection, and over ten thousand recommended installer tyrack dot 1357 01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:04,000 Speaker 2: com the way tied buying should be. And I definitely 1358 01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:07,160 Speaker 2: don't want this to turn you into an interview, but 1359 01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:09,840 Speaker 2: I got questions. I got questions, and I wonder how 1360 01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,400 Speaker 2: you would answer them, Kyle, And then we can kind 1361 01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:14,160 Speaker 2: of bat it around a little bit. But let me 1362 01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:16,280 Speaker 2: let me throw a few of them out there. Let 1363 01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:20,240 Speaker 2: me start with this one. After the forty nine ers 1364 01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:24,280 Speaker 2: dismantled the Jacksonville Jaguars, and I thought it was an 1365 01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:29,479 Speaker 2: incredibly pivotal game for the forty nine ers. Well, you 1366 01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:31,880 Speaker 2: fancy yourself as maybe one of the best teams in 1367 01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:34,040 Speaker 2: the league. You've pointed at them twice so far on 1368 01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:37,400 Speaker 2: this show as saying, when at their best, that's the 1369 01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:40,040 Speaker 2: best team in football. But they were staring down the 1370 01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:43,920 Speaker 2: barrel of going over a month without a win if 1371 01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:46,840 Speaker 2: they lose this football game. And I just thought there 1372 01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:51,080 Speaker 2: was going to get to a new level of impatience 1373 01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:54,040 Speaker 2: if the forty nine ers had lost this game. Conversely, 1374 01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:57,960 Speaker 2: if they win it, especially convincingly, I think it sort 1375 01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,840 Speaker 2: of feels like, okay, all is forgiven and all is 1376 01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:04,000 Speaker 2: forgotten with what happened on the three game losing streak, 1377 01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,880 Speaker 2: and that's what happened. So that's the Niners. But let 1378 01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:10,519 Speaker 2: me ask you one of my burning questions, and it's 1379 01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:15,679 Speaker 2: on the Jaguars side here, how good is Trevor Lawrence? 1380 01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:17,800 Speaker 2: How would you answer that? 1381 01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:25,920 Speaker 3: I think he's really good. I think really good quarterbacks 1382 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:32,080 Speaker 3: can look very pedestrian when they face a defensive performance 1383 01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:35,320 Speaker 3: in a rush like he faced today. I've said that 1384 01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:38,080 Speaker 3: multiple times. You know, the easiest way to make a 1385 01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:41,520 Speaker 3: great quarterback look very average is by making him uncomfortable 1386 01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:46,000 Speaker 3: and putting pressure on him. It again, like when if 1387 01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:48,200 Speaker 3: I was a GM and I was building a team, 1388 01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,080 Speaker 3: it's gonna start with the four guys that rushed the 1389 01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:56,840 Speaker 3: passer because it's such a equalizer and it can just 1390 01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:03,240 Speaker 3: make their best player very very average. And you know, 1391 01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:07,920 Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence, in my opinion, you know, he's up there, 1392 01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:13,280 Speaker 3: you know, certainly in my opinion, definitely the top third 1393 01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:16,440 Speaker 3: of quarterbacks in the NFL. He's a guy that has 1394 01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:21,879 Speaker 3: all the intangibles, talent, makes all the throws, the demeanor 1395 01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:25,360 Speaker 3: of a franchise quarterback. So I don't think today is 1396 01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:29,160 Speaker 3: indicative at all of who Trevor Lawrence is and certainly 1397 01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:31,400 Speaker 3: the play that he's had up to this point this year. 1398 01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:36,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't ask because of today's output. I'm with you. 1399 01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:40,720 Speaker 2: He was under intense pressure the entire day, and the 1400 01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:44,080 Speaker 2: Niner pass rush suddenly looked like the Niner pass rush 1401 01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:47,960 Speaker 2: was supposed to look. But I did see this tonight 1402 01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:53,840 Speaker 2: from Richard Sherman, and he wrote, So when I make 1403 01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:58,479 Speaker 2: an assessment that Trevor Lawrence hasn't been the generational talent 1404 01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:02,200 Speaker 2: he was billed to be coming out of Clemson, Jags 1405 01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:06,240 Speaker 2: fans are up in arms. The tape doesn't lie. The 1406 01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:09,960 Speaker 2: team is won because the defense has gotten turnovers. At 1407 01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,760 Speaker 2: this point, Trevor Lawrence has more turnovers than TDS on 1408 01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:17,519 Speaker 2: the season, despite that his team has been winning. He 1409 01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:21,240 Speaker 2: has all the talent in the world. However, that has 1410 01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:28,680 Speaker 2: not been showcased consistently. How would you respond to Sherm. 1411 01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:35,080 Speaker 3: I mean, certainly you can point to inconsistency, but I 1412 01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:38,280 Speaker 3: don't think that doesn't mean he's not, like I said, 1413 01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:41,360 Speaker 3: one of the you know, top third definitely a franchise quarterback. 1414 01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,719 Speaker 3: You know this is a guy in his third year. 1415 01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:49,360 Speaker 3: Are you know our young quarterbacks not allowed to be inconsistent. 1416 01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:51,920 Speaker 3: I think there were times, you know, I remember thinking 1417 01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,439 Speaker 3: back to a guy like Andrew Luck. You know, you 1418 01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:59,840 Speaker 3: show flashes of brilliance and athleticism and then you know, 1419 01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,680 Speaker 3: maybe not so much. And it's like, ultimately, over the 1420 01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:06,519 Speaker 3: course of Andrews seven or eight years, he got better 1421 01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:09,519 Speaker 3: and better and better. Toos like, there's the generational talent 1422 01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:13,360 Speaker 3: that we thought we drafted out of Stanford, And I 1423 01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:19,960 Speaker 3: think that's you know, let's not take credit away from 1424 01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:23,600 Speaker 3: Trevor and you know, certainly he put himself in the 1425 01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,599 Speaker 3: hole last year in the playoff game, but he also 1426 01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:29,240 Speaker 3: came back in the second half and erased a twenty 1427 01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:31,880 Speaker 3: seven point deficit and won a playoff game for the 1428 01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:36,960 Speaker 3: Jacksonville Jaguars team that really back to back number one 1429 01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:41,920 Speaker 3: overall picks before that, so not just him as the 1430 01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:44,240 Speaker 3: number one pick, but they also had the number one 1431 01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:49,400 Speaker 3: pick again. So I think it's it's certainly fair criticism 1432 01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:52,200 Speaker 3: to say that, you know, I haven't seen the consistency 1433 01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:56,760 Speaker 3: out of him, but I think the generational talent you 1434 01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:57,720 Speaker 3: definitely see it. 1435 01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:02,719 Speaker 2: You mentioned his playoff come from behind win over the Chargers. 1436 01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:07,599 Speaker 2: My next question is about them. Why can't their defense 1437 01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:10,080 Speaker 2: stop anybody? 1438 01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:15,240 Speaker 3: That's a great question. Certainly you look at the roster, 1439 01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:18,519 Speaker 3: the talent that they have on that side of the ball. 1440 01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:20,679 Speaker 3: To to I just talked about it. If I'm building 1441 01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:25,160 Speaker 3: a team, it's starting with try rush. You have Joey 1442 01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:28,680 Speaker 3: Bosa and Khalil Mack getting after the quarterback. You have 1443 01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:31,720 Speaker 3: two of the best in the game getting after the quarterback. 1444 01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:36,720 Speaker 3: You've got two really good linebackers, and Kenneth Murray and 1445 01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:42,080 Speaker 3: Eric Kendricks, Derwin James consistently touted as one of the 1446 01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:47,400 Speaker 3: best safeties in football, Sante Samuel Junior, really good young, 1447 01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:52,040 Speaker 3: aggressive cornerback. All the pieces are there, and ultimately, you know, 1448 01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:58,280 Speaker 3: at times I feel like defenses who play on the 1449 01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:01,640 Speaker 3: other side of the ball of an offense that typically 1450 01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:04,240 Speaker 3: throws it as much as the Chargers do, can be 1451 01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:09,760 Speaker 3: put in bad situations at times. But you know, I 1452 01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:11,400 Speaker 3: don't know if that's the case here. You know, they 1453 01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,720 Speaker 3: just simply could not stop the Detroit Lions today. They 1454 01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:20,839 Speaker 3: were just up and down the field almost at will. 1455 01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:22,320 Speaker 2: Completely at will. Yes, And so got to the point 1456 01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:23,960 Speaker 2: where was one of those games where it was probably 1457 01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,439 Speaker 2: going to be whoever had the ball last. But if 1458 01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:29,720 Speaker 2: you watched that game, it was very clear that it 1459 01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:33,599 Speaker 2: was like the Chargers. Herbert did a great job of 1460 01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:38,479 Speaker 2: grinding away and keeping up with what the Lions were doing, 1461 01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:40,880 Speaker 2: but then the Lions would get the ball and just 1462 01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,360 Speaker 2: go right down the other end. I mean, it was 1463 01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:46,960 Speaker 2: just easy their play calling. They were in their bag. 1464 01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:52,400 Speaker 2: Jamiir Gibbs and David Montgomery look like a fire and 1465 01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:55,800 Speaker 2: ice combo in the making that can really do some 1466 01:27:55,920 --> 01:28:01,080 Speaker 2: interesting things. And in fact, maybe maybe that leads to 1467 01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:06,000 Speaker 2: the next question, which is who are the Lions? And 1468 01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:08,760 Speaker 2: I mean that in a more in depth way. I 1469 01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:11,000 Speaker 2: think they're going to be the winner of that division. 1470 01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:14,280 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna host a playoff game, maybe more. 1471 01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:20,880 Speaker 2: But they still don't get mentioned with Niners, Eagles, Cowboys. 1472 01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:25,040 Speaker 2: Should they? You know? 1473 01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:28,479 Speaker 3: I think we prior to them going to Baltimore and 1474 01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:30,479 Speaker 3: you know, getting their little slap on the wrists and 1475 01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:34,240 Speaker 3: going back to Detroit, we we started talking about this 1476 01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:39,200 Speaker 3: Lions team as a team that belongs in that conversation, 1477 01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:45,960 Speaker 3: especially in especially in the NFC conference that we've talked about. 1478 01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:50,879 Speaker 3: Certainly it's it's top heavy. You have Eagles and Niners 1479 01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:54,720 Speaker 3: at the top, and then you know, really not a 1480 01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:57,920 Speaker 3: whole lot else, and then in the AFC you have 1481 01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:03,600 Speaker 3: this incredibly de conference. So I personally, I believe the 1482 01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:06,880 Speaker 3: Eagles are Excuse me, I believe the Lions deserve to 1483 01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:10,880 Speaker 3: be mentioned with the Eagles and the Niners as well. 1484 01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:14,479 Speaker 3: We've talked about the body of work since about this 1485 01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:18,400 Speaker 3: time last year. They went on the run the back 1486 01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:20,160 Speaker 3: half of last year. I think I heard on the 1487 01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:24,479 Speaker 3: broadcast today they're fourteen and four in their last eighteen games. 1488 01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:32,639 Speaker 3: So it's a Detroit Lions team that is well rounded balance, 1489 01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:37,479 Speaker 3: they're playing better defense than they did last year and 1490 01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:41,720 Speaker 3: early in the year, and an offense that's led by 1491 01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:44,519 Speaker 3: a quarterback, in my opinion, who just really has never 1492 01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:47,639 Speaker 3: gotten enough credit. It was always we wanted to blame 1493 01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:51,240 Speaker 3: the Rams struggles on him. Then he almost got shipped 1494 01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:54,400 Speaker 3: off to Detroit to be forgotten about as his former 1495 01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:57,080 Speaker 3: team wins the Super Bowl the first year without him. 1496 01:29:57,520 --> 01:29:59,639 Speaker 3: Yet he's kind of just kept his head down, kept 1497 01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:02,880 Speaker 3: his mouth shut, and he goes out weekend and week 1498 01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,080 Speaker 3: out and wins football games. 1499 01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:08,200 Speaker 2: All right. Next question, now, the Texans going to the playoffs. 1500 01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:13,360 Speaker 3: I was just looking at that and you look at 1501 01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:17,320 Speaker 3: this AFC I talked about how deep the AFC is, 1502 01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:21,200 Speaker 3: and with the Colts winning today, you also have the 1503 01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:24,280 Speaker 3: Colts at five and five. So there's a chance that 1504 01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:29,719 Speaker 3: if the Jets win today, we have eleven teams five 1505 01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:32,960 Speaker 3: hundred or better. And then the other side of it 1506 01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:37,880 Speaker 3: is we will have eleven teams five hundred or better 1507 01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:41,240 Speaker 3: because if the Jets don't win tonight, the Raiders have 1508 01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:44,920 Speaker 3: to win Red five and five. So you're gonna have 1509 01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:49,120 Speaker 3: eleven teams halfway through November that are five hundred or 1510 01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:52,760 Speaker 3: better out of the sixteen teams in the conference. So 1511 01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:57,559 Speaker 3: extremely deep conference. And right there smack dab in the 1512 01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:01,280 Speaker 3: middle of it is this Houston Texans team that's five 1513 01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:06,839 Speaker 3: and four. You look at some of their upcoming games 1514 01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:10,360 Speaker 3: and who they have coming up and on the schedule. 1515 01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:14,360 Speaker 3: They've already played Jacksonville once, they already won in Jacksonville. 1516 01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:17,679 Speaker 3: So Jacksonville's the first place in the AFC South at 1517 01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:21,280 Speaker 3: six and three. They're sitting there right behind them five 1518 01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:24,160 Speaker 3: and four. They got the Cardinals at home this week, 1519 01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:27,920 Speaker 3: then they get the Jaguars again at home, then the Broncos. 1520 01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:30,920 Speaker 3: It's like we could be looking at a team here 1521 01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:36,679 Speaker 3: that really. You know, we talked about the AFC playoff 1522 01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:39,320 Speaker 3: picture last week with the Bengals and the Bills playing 1523 01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:42,400 Speaker 3: on Sunday Night football, and how that was kind of 1524 01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:46,080 Speaker 3: shaping up, and we almost just you know, anointed the 1525 01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:50,599 Speaker 3: Bengals as if they were gonna be the Bengals of old. 1526 01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:53,679 Speaker 3: And I'm not worried about the Bengals, and I quite 1527 01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:56,759 Speaker 3: honestly don't think the Bengals care if they're a wild 1528 01:31:56,840 --> 01:32:00,439 Speaker 3: card team or not. They almost play better in bigger, 1529 01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:05,000 Speaker 3: more challenging games than they do in these one o'clock 1530 01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:11,040 Speaker 3: kickoffs against the Houston Texans. So yeah, I would not 1531 01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:13,240 Speaker 3: be surprised if we look up in the middle of 1532 01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:16,599 Speaker 3: December and you see the Houston Texans right there at 1533 01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:17,759 Speaker 3: the six or seven spot. 1534 01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:20,720 Speaker 2: I got one more for you, and it's with a 1535 01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:25,720 Speaker 2: team that did not even play football today. The Philadelphia 1536 01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:29,000 Speaker 2: Eagles have the best record in football. They are eight 1537 01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:32,120 Speaker 2: and one. We have talked a lot though about the 1538 01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:35,519 Speaker 2: gauntlet they must run. They've sort of tiptoed into it, 1539 01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:39,320 Speaker 2: and they've done rather well with it their last three 1540 01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:43,280 Speaker 2: games Miami, at Washington and home to Dallas. It's nothing 1541 01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:45,559 Speaker 2: easy in there. They won all three and they're eight 1542 01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:49,519 Speaker 2: and one. But here we go starting next Monday night, 1543 01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:55,519 Speaker 2: Kansas City, then Buffalo, then the forty nine Ers, and 1544 01:32:55,560 --> 01:33:01,240 Speaker 2: then at Dallas. In those four games, what's the Eagles record. 1545 01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:12,600 Speaker 3: M I'm gonna say two and two. I think I 1546 01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:16,200 Speaker 3: think they get two and two, which when we went 1547 01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:21,679 Speaker 3: back and talked about that seven game stretch coming out 1548 01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:25,720 Speaker 3: of the Jets loss, we said, hey, if they're if 1549 01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:28,280 Speaker 3: they're five and three over the next eight games, they're 1550 01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:32,280 Speaker 3: they're happy. If they're six and two, they're really happy. 1551 01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:35,000 Speaker 3: And if they go two and two over the next 1552 01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:37,679 Speaker 3: four they will made it through that gauntlet at six 1553 01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:39,120 Speaker 3: and two, which is pretty good. 1554 01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:44,120 Speaker 2: Two yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, and that that includes at Seattle, 1555 01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:48,320 Speaker 2: the game after the Dallas game. It's at Kansas City, 1556 01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:52,280 Speaker 2: home to Buffalo, home to San Francisco, at Dallas, at Seattle. 1557 01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:56,599 Speaker 2: Do you care to throw in which ones are the losses? 1558 01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:00,880 Speaker 3: If I'm gonna pick two of those as losses, I'm 1559 01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:05,160 Speaker 3: saying Chiefs and Niners. 1560 01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:08,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I thought you'd say. Yeah, out Arrowhead 1561 01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:11,920 Speaker 2: next Monday. Oh man, that's the task. 1562 01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:15,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got the Chiefs coming off of a bye 1563 01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:18,320 Speaker 3: I remember at one point, and it was kind of 1564 01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:23,840 Speaker 3: Andy Reid's end of his Eagles days into his Chiefs days. 1565 01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:27,160 Speaker 3: There was like a a ten or eleven year stretch 1566 01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:29,640 Speaker 3: where Andy Reid didn't lose after a bye, Like just 1567 01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:33,120 Speaker 3: one of those crazy outlying stats that I've thought about. 1568 01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:39,440 Speaker 3: But also, you know, just Arrowhead Monday night Super Bowl rematch, 1569 01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:43,240 Speaker 3: I'm gonna give the advantage to the Chiefs there. I 1570 01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:47,880 Speaker 3: think they beat the Bills at home, which, again, like 1571 01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:51,800 Speaker 3: you were talking about the AFC playoff picture, as of 1572 01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:54,400 Speaker 3: right now, the Bills are on the outside looking in, 1573 01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:58,040 Speaker 3: not by one spot, but by two spots, yep. 1574 01:34:58,120 --> 01:34:59,439 Speaker 2: And you you. 1575 01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:02,599 Speaker 3: Talk about strength of schedule down the stretch. I think 1576 01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:07,040 Speaker 3: that's another reason why the Houston Texans, in my mind, 1577 01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:09,719 Speaker 3: will be right there in the thick of it. They're 1578 01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:12,839 Speaker 3: you know, the Bills are playing the number one schedule 1579 01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:16,040 Speaker 3: from the AFC East as the division winner from last year. 1580 01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:18,719 Speaker 3: They have the toughest schedule in that division. They also 1581 01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:21,639 Speaker 3: have to play all of the other AFC East teams, 1582 01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:29,479 Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals, the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Cleveland Browns, they 1583 01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:31,280 Speaker 3: all have to play each other. They're all in the 1584 01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:34,640 Speaker 3: same division. And then you just kind of have the 1585 01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:36,960 Speaker 3: Houston Texans there. They got, like I said, they got 1586 01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:39,960 Speaker 3: to play Jacksonville in two weeks, but then they're playing 1587 01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:44,559 Speaker 3: the rest of their AFC South opponents and the last 1588 01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:48,360 Speaker 3: place schedule because they came in last place in the 1589 01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:51,439 Speaker 3: AFC South. So strength of schedule down the stretch certainly 1590 01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:54,160 Speaker 3: would play a huge part in that AFC playoff picture. 1591 01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:57,479 Speaker 2: No doubt. And they took on Jacksonville already once this 1592 01:35:57,560 --> 01:36:02,520 Speaker 2: year in Jacksonville and theely crushed him by three touchdowns. 1593 01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:06,760 Speaker 2: So Mark Willard, Kyle Rudolph, who else could crash the 1594 01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:09,000 Speaker 2: party and who's supposed to be the party that may 1595 01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:11,800 Speaker 2: end up going home. We'll talk more about that coming 1596 01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:16,280 Speaker 2: up next on Fox Sports Radio. All right, tyre Rech 1597 01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:21,920 Speaker 2: dot com Studios with Kyle Rudolph. I'm Mark Willard, working 1598 01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:26,599 Speaker 2: through the entire NFL slate. What we thought we knew 1599 01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:31,439 Speaker 2: dot dot dot It changes every single week. And you 1600 01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:35,000 Speaker 2: were talking about it a second ago that AFC North, Like, 1601 01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:39,000 Speaker 2: tell me right now, who's absolutely one percent? We were 1602 01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:42,760 Speaker 2: just talking about the Texans their schedule. You're right, it 1603 01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:46,320 Speaker 2: sets up they may actually crash this party. We talked 1604 01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:50,240 Speaker 2: earlier about the Vikings, who's absolutely supposed to go, who 1605 01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:54,640 Speaker 2: might not like I was very surprised to see what 1606 01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:59,360 Speaker 2: I saw today from the Cincinnati Bengals. I mean, you 1607 01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:02,479 Speaker 2: think about what we just watched the Bengals do. It 1608 01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:05,560 Speaker 2: was one thing to win on October eighth at Arizona. 1609 01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:09,120 Speaker 2: Arizona gives up a lot of wins, but then as 1610 01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:12,480 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow gets healthy, it's a win over the Seahawks, 1611 01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:15,599 Speaker 2: a bye, a win over the forty nine ers, and 1612 01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:18,080 Speaker 2: a win over the Bills. There get to five and 1613 01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:22,200 Speaker 2: three and you're thinking, Okay, it's time to boogie. And 1614 01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:26,240 Speaker 2: today was one hell of a setback. Not because like 1615 01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:30,439 Speaker 2: they're not gonna be back and good next week, but 1616 01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:35,880 Speaker 2: because math like five and four in this AFC, in 1617 01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:41,960 Speaker 2: that division and at Baltimore on Thursday night, like this 1618 01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:46,799 Speaker 2: could turn around and go back south in a real hurry. 1619 01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:49,200 Speaker 2: I was shocked to see some of the throws I 1620 01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:50,439 Speaker 2: saw from Joe Burrow today. 1621 01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:53,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like as good as Joe Burrow looked 1622 01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:57,160 Speaker 3: in San Francisco and then against the Bills on Sunday night, 1623 01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:03,519 Speaker 3: good news for Beles fans. Joe Burrow still looked healthy. 1624 01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:06,799 Speaker 3: He could still move around he could still extend plays. 1625 01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:10,679 Speaker 3: I just thought Joe's decision making wasn't as good today 1626 01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:13,760 Speaker 3: as it had been the last couple weeks. Again, I'm 1627 01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:15,920 Speaker 3: not worried about the Cincinnati Bengals. All they got to 1628 01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:18,439 Speaker 3: do is get in the dance. As long as they 1629 01:38:18,479 --> 01:38:21,200 Speaker 3: get in, they'll be just fine with wherever they have 1630 01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:23,559 Speaker 3: to go, whoever they have to play. They play bigger 1631 01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:27,080 Speaker 3: in those games than they do against the Houston Texans 1632 01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:30,160 Speaker 3: at one o'clock after three big games in a row. 1633 01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:35,799 Speaker 3: So again I fully anticipate them bouncing back. The best 1634 01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:39,479 Speaker 3: way to get a bad loss behind you is to 1635 01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:42,200 Speaker 3: play against a division rival on Thursday night when you 1636 01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:44,880 Speaker 3: can't think about it for long. They're already on to 1637 01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:47,960 Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ravens getting ready for the game in Baltimore 1638 01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:51,920 Speaker 3: on Thursday night. When I look at the AFC picture, 1639 01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:56,200 Speaker 3: you know right now looking at the top, you know 1640 01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:58,920 Speaker 3: we talked about there's gonna be eleven teams after this 1641 01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:04,960 Speaker 3: game tonight. That are and above Yep, Pittsburgh Steelers at 1642 01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:08,720 Speaker 3: six and three. I don't love them. They you know, 1643 01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:11,480 Speaker 3: they beat a bad Green Bay team at home today. 1644 01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:18,120 Speaker 3: You know it's interesting they got They'll go next week 1645 01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:23,439 Speaker 3: to the Browns, then to the Bengals, but really they 1646 01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:25,519 Speaker 3: got like two tough ones in a row, and then 1647 01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:31,920 Speaker 3: it's Cardinals, Patriots, Colts, Bengals, Seahawks, Ravens. So I think 1648 01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:35,760 Speaker 3: ultimately the the Steelers will win the games that they're 1649 01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:38,200 Speaker 3: supposed to win, but I think they have too many 1650 01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:43,560 Speaker 3: tough games. For instance, at Cleveland, at Cincinnati, at Seattle, 1651 01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:48,200 Speaker 3: at Baltimore. They have all three of their division games 1652 01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:51,479 Speaker 3: on the road the back half of the year, and 1653 01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:55,320 Speaker 3: then you throw in at Seattle as well. So if 1654 01:39:55,320 --> 01:39:58,840 Speaker 3: I'm looking at that AFC picture right now, I'm saying 1655 01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:01,120 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh is the team at six and three that I 1656 01:40:01,160 --> 01:40:03,240 Speaker 3: don't think is there when it's all said and done. 1657 01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:09,920 Speaker 3: I think Cleveland, with their defense, it gives them a chance. 1658 01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:14,000 Speaker 3: DeShawn just doesn't look healthy when I watch him throw 1659 01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:16,519 Speaker 3: the football. It doesn't look like Deshaun Watson that I've 1660 01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:18,839 Speaker 3: watched throwing the football for over a decade. 1661 01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:20,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it. 1662 01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:24,160 Speaker 3: Just it doesn't look comfortable. Now, DeShawn had a gutsy 1663 01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:27,479 Speaker 3: performance with a comeback win today. He got you know, 1664 01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:30,439 Speaker 3: got his ankle rolled up on, but finished the game, 1665 01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:32,760 Speaker 3: had a big scramble late in the game to get 1666 01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:37,400 Speaker 3: him in field goal range. So I think Cleveland. I 1667 01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:40,160 Speaker 3: think Kevin Stefanski is one of the best coaches in football. 1668 01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:43,200 Speaker 3: He just finds a way to win games. Doesn't matter 1669 01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:45,800 Speaker 3: who the quarterback is or how the quarterback plays. He 1670 01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:49,320 Speaker 3: seems to just make sure that that quarterback's in good situations. 1671 01:40:49,360 --> 01:40:52,360 Speaker 3: And then Jim Schwartz has that defense play at a 1672 01:40:52,360 --> 01:40:53,840 Speaker 3: at a high, high level. 1673 01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:57,479 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not gonna disagree with anything you're saying. They 1674 01:40:57,520 --> 01:41:00,160 Speaker 2: have the defense in order to do this. All though 1675 01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:02,720 Speaker 2: they gave up thirty one points today, I'm mindful of 1676 01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:06,679 Speaker 2: that Colts game that they won a handful of weeks ago, 1677 01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:09,720 Speaker 2: where they gave up a bucket of points thirty eight 1678 01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:13,600 Speaker 2: to be exact. The Cleveland Browns, I think are this 1679 01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:18,599 Speaker 2: year's Minnesota Vikings. In other words, they're a team that 1680 01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:23,040 Speaker 2: has had with a six and three record. Again, I'm 1681 01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:25,280 Speaker 2: gonna find a way to say this without sounding like 1682 01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:27,600 Speaker 2: I'm taking everything away from them. I don't want to 1683 01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:31,000 Speaker 2: do that. But like man, there have been a few 1684 01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:35,360 Speaker 2: things the coin has bounced their way a few times. 1685 01:41:35,439 --> 01:41:38,880 Speaker 2: The Niners missing the last second field goal was one 1686 01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:42,040 Speaker 2: of them. Go back to opening week and they draw 1687 01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:46,120 Speaker 2: Cincinnati at home, when the Bengals and Joe Burrow and 1688 01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:51,280 Speaker 2: everybody just just flat out wasn't right. And then you 1689 01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:54,679 Speaker 2: get a game like today, the one in Indianapolis, where 1690 01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:58,520 Speaker 2: things are going haywire back and forth, and you somehow 1691 01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:01,559 Speaker 2: erase deficits and pull out a one or a two 1692 01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:05,080 Speaker 2: point victory at the end. All of those things count, 1693 01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:08,080 Speaker 2: But what they are actually doing is they're putting a 1694 01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:11,640 Speaker 2: band aid on what you just said. I think that 1695 01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:17,320 Speaker 2: there is a total sort of brewing situation there that's 1696 01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:21,160 Speaker 2: being covered up by a few wins that have gone 1697 01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:24,360 Speaker 2: their way, which is that that massive contract for Deshaun 1698 01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:29,160 Speaker 2: Watson is really gonna bite him. You're right, he's not healthy. 1699 01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:33,120 Speaker 2: He's usually not playing well when they're scoring thirty three. 1700 01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:36,559 Speaker 2: It's not because he looks like he used to and 1701 01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:38,720 Speaker 2: he's throwing the ball all over the yard. It's not 1702 01:42:38,840 --> 01:42:41,280 Speaker 2: that way at all. They had to bring PJ. Walker 1703 01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:45,120 Speaker 2: in today to throw the hail Mary before half, and 1704 01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:47,800 Speaker 2: it wasn't his ankle. That tells me his shoulders still 1705 01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:53,200 Speaker 2: not right. So the defense and a few games that 1706 01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:56,840 Speaker 2: have landed their way have kind of calmed the talk 1707 01:42:57,439 --> 01:43:00,200 Speaker 2: but over the long term, I just think there's there's 1708 01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:04,000 Speaker 2: no way to keep that at Bay forever. That Deshaun 1709 01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:07,880 Speaker 2: Watson conversation Kyle is coming in my opinion. 1710 01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:11,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, I would argue that the difference 1711 01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:17,120 Speaker 3: between this year is Cleveland Browns and last year's Minnesota Vikings. 1712 01:43:18,160 --> 01:43:23,080 Speaker 3: That Minnesota Vikings had a record breaking bad defense. They 1713 01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:27,880 Speaker 3: were absolutely terrible on defense last year. And yes they 1714 01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:29,960 Speaker 3: won a lot of close games, but as you know, 1715 01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:35,880 Speaker 3: when you're playing football in January, a good defense is 1716 01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:38,839 Speaker 3: gonna win you more games than a high powered offense 1717 01:43:38,920 --> 01:43:42,800 Speaker 3: with the thirty second ranked defense. And I'm not saying 1718 01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:46,960 Speaker 3: that the Browns don't have an issue and Deshaun Watson, 1719 01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:49,720 Speaker 3: but you know, I also said, you can tell when 1720 01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:52,479 Speaker 3: he's throwing the football that his shoulders bothering him and 1721 01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:54,760 Speaker 3: he's not throwing the football like I've seen him throw 1722 01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:56,960 Speaker 3: the football since I started watching him when he was 1723 01:43:56,960 --> 01:44:01,400 Speaker 3: at Clemson. So you know, who knows. None of us 1724 01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:04,600 Speaker 3: really know how bad Deshaun Watson's shoulders hurt. But I 1725 01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:08,400 Speaker 3: do believe that this Browns team will be a tough 1726 01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:12,680 Speaker 3: out come January and they ultimately will will be one 1727 01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:15,960 Speaker 3: of the seven teams in the AFC. You know, again, 1728 01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:19,880 Speaker 3: we can look at their schedule down the stretch, Steelers 1729 01:44:19,880 --> 01:44:26,360 Speaker 3: at home, Broncos, Rams, Bears, you know, a lot of 1730 01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:29,360 Speaker 3: winnable games there, and then you have you know, at 1731 01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:31,559 Speaker 3: Houston will be a big one. At Cincinnati will be 1732 01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:35,519 Speaker 3: a big one. Certainly they'll they'll host the Jaguars at home. 1733 01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:37,320 Speaker 3: That you know, So they have they have like three 1734 01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:40,320 Speaker 3: or four big AFC playoff picture games and then they 1735 01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:45,160 Speaker 3: have three or four very winnable games to make sure 1736 01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:46,880 Speaker 3: that they stay right there in the hunt in the 1737 01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:48,520 Speaker 3: in the AFC, North. 1738 01:44:49,320 --> 01:44:52,759 Speaker 2: Mark Willard, Kyle Rudolph not done yet. Coming down the stretch. 1739 01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:56,000 Speaker 2: Second half Sunday Night Football. Let's also get Nick Cope 1740 01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:59,120 Speaker 2: in here, get y'all updated on that game and more. 1741 01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:00,599 Speaker 2: Hey Nick, what's going on? 1742 01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:01,000 Speaker 1: Guys? 1743 01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:01,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1744 01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:03,080 Speaker 6: Quick note here on Cleveland. 1745 01:45:03,160 --> 01:45:06,200 Speaker 7: They did it without both their starting tackles from the 1746 01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:09,120 Speaker 7: start of the game. Corner Denzel Ward left with a 1747 01:45:09,200 --> 01:45:12,400 Speaker 7: neck injury. Despite all that, down fourteen in the fourth quarter, 1748 01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:15,640 Speaker 7: Browns get the win over the Ravens thirty three to 1749 01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:16,320 Speaker 7: thirty one. 1750 01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:17,320 Speaker 6: Sunday Night Football. 1751 01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:20,479 Speaker 7: Late in the third quarter, the Raiders have added a 1752 01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:23,080 Speaker 7: field goal moments ago a forty yard field goal from 1753 01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:26,760 Speaker 7: Daniel Carlson, So hopefully you like the kicking game. It 1754 01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:30,080 Speaker 7: is nine to nine in Las Vegas with two thirty 1755 01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:33,040 Speaker 7: six to play in the third finals. 1756 01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:35,200 Speaker 6: From earlier today, you had the. 1757 01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:38,760 Speaker 7: Lions and the Chargers combining for about nine hundred and 1758 01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:41,840 Speaker 7: fifty yards. Detroit gets the win forty one to thirty eight. 1759 01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:44,760 Speaker 7: Seahawks get a wankoff field goal to beat the Commanders 1760 01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:48,320 Speaker 7: twenty nine to twenty six. Texans getting the upset against 1761 01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:51,400 Speaker 7: the Bengals in Cincinnati. Another wankoff field goal there, thirty 1762 01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:52,519 Speaker 7: to twenty seven. 1763 01:45:52,760 --> 01:45:53,240 Speaker 6: Forty nine. 1764 01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:55,839 Speaker 7: Ers snap in their three game losing streak, a pounding 1765 01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:59,200 Speaker 7: of the Jaguars thirty four to three. Steelers held off 1766 01:45:59,240 --> 01:46:02,519 Speaker 7: the Packers three to nineteen, all four teams in the 1767 01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:06,839 Speaker 7: AFC North separated by just one game in the lost column. 1768 01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:09,040 Speaker 7: Vikings won their fifth in a row twenty seven to 1769 01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:12,200 Speaker 7: nineteen over the Saints. Cowboys blew out the Giants forty 1770 01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:16,759 Speaker 7: nine to seventeen. Dallas outgained New York by four hundred 1771 01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:19,280 Speaker 7: sixty eight yards in the game that is the most 1772 01:46:19,560 --> 01:46:23,640 Speaker 7: in an NFL game in forty four years. Cardinals got 1773 01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:26,080 Speaker 7: a walkoff field goal to beat the Falcons twenty five 1774 01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:28,960 Speaker 7: to twenty three as Kyler Murray made his season debut 1775 01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:32,960 Speaker 7: Buccaneers over the Titans twenty to six, Colts on top 1776 01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:35,839 Speaker 7: of the Patriots ten to six in that game in Germany. 1777 01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:38,120 Speaker 7: And just to circle back, you guys were talking about 1778 01:46:38,160 --> 01:46:40,960 Speaker 7: Jimbo Fischer and his buyout as he got fired by 1779 01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:44,880 Speaker 7: Texas A and M. Their athletic director Ross Bjork's gave 1780 01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:47,839 Speaker 7: the breakdown of where all that money's coming from. Nineteen 1781 01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:50,960 Speaker 7: point four million will come from their donor fund and 1782 01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:54,320 Speaker 7: then they're gonna be paying Fisher seven point three million 1783 01:46:54,439 --> 01:46:56,880 Speaker 7: a year for the next eight years out of their 1784 01:46:56,920 --> 01:47:02,120 Speaker 7: athletic department budget. Grand total, guys, seventy seven point eight 1785 01:47:02,240 --> 01:47:04,040 Speaker 7: million for Jimbo Fisher. 1786 01:47:04,160 --> 01:47:10,920 Speaker 8: Back to you, Oh my goodness, I mean, come on, 1787 01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:14,840 Speaker 8: there's like you can you can lay that out any 1788 01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:15,479 Speaker 8: way you want. 1789 01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:18,040 Speaker 2: There's no way to make it sound good. There's no 1790 01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:19,519 Speaker 2: way to make it sound okay. 1791 01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:25,599 Speaker 3: In my opinion, no, and certainly when again a majority 1792 01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:29,880 Speaker 3: of those dollars are falling on the athletic department paying him. 1793 01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:35,360 Speaker 3: You know, maybe if if there was some extremely wealthy 1794 01:47:35,439 --> 01:47:38,360 Speaker 3: Texas A and m alumni that said, you know what, 1795 01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:40,599 Speaker 3: I just can't take it anymore. Get this guy out 1796 01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:43,759 Speaker 3: of here. I'll make a donation and cover it. But again, 1797 01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:48,360 Speaker 3: seven point six million dollars over the next eight years 1798 01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:50,559 Speaker 3: are coming out of the athletic department for somebody who 1799 01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:53,759 Speaker 3: has zero impact on the program anymore. 1800 01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:57,759 Speaker 2: Uh. We're live in the Tirack dot com studios, Mark Willard, 1801 01:47:57,840 --> 01:48:00,320 Speaker 2: Kyle Rudolph, you said something earlier when you say the 1802 01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:02,920 Speaker 2: you know, college football kind of handled it the same 1803 01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:09,280 Speaker 2: way they handle everything poorly. I mean, college football is 1804 01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:14,080 Speaker 2: just it's like it's the thing that I want to 1805 01:48:14,240 --> 01:48:17,920 Speaker 2: fall in love with, and I can only fall in 1806 01:48:18,160 --> 01:48:20,680 Speaker 2: like with I'll sit around Saturday and watch all the 1807 01:48:20,720 --> 01:48:25,160 Speaker 2: games and uh and and and do work around college football. 1808 01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:28,520 Speaker 2: And and you know, part of it might be my background. 1809 01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:30,840 Speaker 2: I went to cal Poly San Louis Obispo. We didn't 1810 01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:37,160 Speaker 2: have big time college athletics. But there's just something. There's something. 1811 01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:41,720 Speaker 2: And this is another example of it, the way that 1812 01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:46,160 Speaker 2: it's presented, the fact that we still have everybody sitting 1813 01:48:46,320 --> 01:48:49,880 Speaker 2: around in a room to figure out who's going to 1814 01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:54,360 Speaker 2: play in the end. I just have the hardest time 1815 01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:59,400 Speaker 2: feeling good about loving the sport. 1816 01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:04,400 Speaker 3: You know, certainly when they move to the expanded playoff format, 1817 01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:08,160 Speaker 3: it'll it'll help that a little bit because hell getting yeah, 1818 01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:11,000 Speaker 3: you're getting more teams a crack at it, and they're 1819 01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:12,880 Speaker 3: playing more games at the end of the year to 1820 01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:17,400 Speaker 3: ultimately decide. You know, like again this year, I feel 1821 01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:20,160 Speaker 3: like there's way more than four teams in college football 1822 01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:25,320 Speaker 3: that deserve the opportunity to go for it. And it's 1823 01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:31,120 Speaker 3: gonna be interesting when we get to the last weekend 1824 01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:36,080 Speaker 3: of the season and Ohio State and Michigan play each other, 1825 01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:41,120 Speaker 3: and you know, ultimately one of them wins, they go 1826 01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:47,400 Speaker 3: on to the Big Ten Championship game and they play 1827 01:49:47,439 --> 01:49:52,560 Speaker 3: whoever wins the Big Ten West, which is they just 1828 01:49:52,640 --> 01:49:56,360 Speaker 3: let Ohio State and Michigan play twice and if they split, 1829 01:49:56,920 --> 01:50:01,280 Speaker 3: maybe they both can go to the playoff. But when 1830 01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:06,679 Speaker 3: when you look at the college football rankings, you know, Georgia, 1831 01:50:06,720 --> 01:50:15,240 Speaker 3: Ohio State, Michigan, Washington, Florida State, like there's one of 1832 01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:18,880 Speaker 3: those teams theoretically are are going to be on the 1833 01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:21,799 Speaker 3: outside looking in, And you know, you have to believe 1834 01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:24,559 Speaker 3: it's going to be whoever loses the Ohio State Michigan 1835 01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:29,280 Speaker 3: game first because you can't then lose kind of what 1836 01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:32,280 Speaker 3: happened last year where Ohio State lost, they didn't play 1837 01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:34,600 Speaker 3: in the Big Ten Championship game and then they ultimately 1838 01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:37,720 Speaker 3: got in because of the way things shook out. But 1839 01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:42,600 Speaker 3: you know, you have to say that with Georgia, Washington, 1840 01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:47,120 Speaker 3: Florida State, certainly nobody scares you in that and it's like, 1841 01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:50,760 Speaker 3: you know, they deserve to be in there. So you know, 1842 01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:54,280 Speaker 3: Oregon can't jump Washington. And because they're not going to 1843 01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:57,360 Speaker 3: be playing in the in the Pac twelve Championship, Washington's 1844 01:50:57,520 --> 01:51:02,720 Speaker 3: going to represent the North and that. So I yeah, 1845 01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:05,200 Speaker 3: it's it's one of those things. You know, you look 1846 01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:10,280 Speaker 3: at college football and maybe because I played twelve years 1847 01:51:10,280 --> 01:51:12,120 Speaker 3: in the NFL, I feel like I've been so far 1848 01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:15,559 Speaker 3: removed from college football. I got a little bit into 1849 01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:18,000 Speaker 3: it this year, getting back into calling some Big Ten 1850 01:51:18,040 --> 01:51:21,120 Speaker 3: football games, which was fun to be back around college 1851 01:51:21,160 --> 01:51:25,080 Speaker 3: programs and watch the game at college football again. But 1852 01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:29,519 Speaker 3: ultimately it's like, you know, where's college football going? Are 1853 01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:32,400 Speaker 3: we going to have two power conferences in you know, 1854 01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:35,519 Speaker 3: the Big Ten and the SEC next year? If you 1855 01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:40,959 Speaker 3: look at the rankings right now, Florida State and Louisville 1856 01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:45,120 Speaker 3: are the only two out of the top ten that 1857 01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:48,600 Speaker 3: won't be in those two conferences, and it's like you 1858 01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:52,519 Speaker 3: kind of have these two power conferences that you know, 1859 01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:55,320 Speaker 3: like what's everybody else doing? What are they playing for? 1860 01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:58,760 Speaker 3: So it'll be interesting as the playoffs expand and we 1861 01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:00,000 Speaker 3: go through this realignment. 1862 01:52:00,160 --> 01:52:04,280 Speaker 2: Next year they changed that the division set up in 1863 01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:06,799 Speaker 2: the PAC twelve by the way, so Oregon and Washington 1864 01:52:06,920 --> 01:52:09,640 Speaker 2: can indeed and are on track to play in that 1865 01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:12,559 Speaker 2: championship team. Just as a quick side note, yeah, which 1866 01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:17,320 Speaker 2: is really really good, but a different question coming up next. 1867 01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:20,720 Speaker 2: I'm actually gonna have you help me set up my 1868 01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:24,719 Speaker 2: show in San Francisco tomorrow because I need someone who's 1869 01:52:24,760 --> 01:52:28,160 Speaker 2: been inside a football locker room and can tell me 1870 01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:33,320 Speaker 2: what on earth happened? How do you lose three games 1871 01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:37,759 Speaker 2: in a row followed by coming out playing one game 1872 01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:41,240 Speaker 2: and then having someone like you say that's the best 1873 01:52:41,240 --> 01:52:44,080 Speaker 2: team in football. So it's a simple question that we 1874 01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:48,240 Speaker 2: need to work through. What happened over the last month 1875 01:52:48,520 --> 01:52:51,040 Speaker 2: of forty nine or football that's coming up on Fox 1876 01:52:51,040 --> 01:52:55,479 Speaker 2: Sports Radio Byan's going for the win forty one yard 1877 01:52:55,520 --> 01:52:57,639 Speaker 2: field go to tamp Pashpark left side. 1878 01:52:57,840 --> 01:53:00,360 Speaker 6: There it is Fox the whole Patterson kick. 1879 01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:04,720 Speaker 3: It is up and it is good. Hey got it? 1880 01:53:05,880 --> 01:53:08,080 Speaker 2: That's up bit gray for the Lions on the final 1881 01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:10,400 Speaker 2: play of the game, and what a game it was. 1882 01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:12,760 Speaker 2: Back and forth they went, no. 1883 01:53:12,920 --> 01:53:16,880 Speaker 1: Separation between these two and Doni Patterson sends it through 1884 01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:19,600 Speaker 1: to secure up forty one thirty eight bit Greek for 1885 01:53:19,640 --> 01:53:20,120 Speaker 1: the Lions. 1886 01:53:20,439 --> 01:53:24,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, walk off field goal day in the NFL. Five 1887 01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:27,839 Speaker 2: of them to close out games today, an all time record, 1888 01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:31,880 Speaker 2: and that was from ninety seven point one. 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However, a nice screen 1897 01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:04,439 Speaker 2: pass to Breise Hall is going to flip the field 1898 01:54:04,439 --> 01:54:07,120 Speaker 2: for the Jets. This one is starting to actually get interesting. 1899 01:54:07,200 --> 01:54:09,920 Speaker 2: And you know what they used the end zones for once, 1900 01:54:10,120 --> 01:54:13,639 Speaker 2: So that was fun. Raiders are up sixteen to nine 1901 01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:19,519 Speaker 2: Jets now early fourth quarter, trying to draw even on 1902 01:54:19,560 --> 01:54:21,640 Speaker 2: that one. So we'll keep you up to date with 1903 01:54:21,720 --> 01:54:23,960 Speaker 2: our time there. But I want you to help me 1904 01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:28,120 Speaker 2: with everything in San Francisco. You've twice today said that 1905 01:54:28,200 --> 01:54:30,800 Speaker 2: at their best, the forty nine ers are the best 1906 01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:33,920 Speaker 2: team in football. I don't think Steve Wilkes on the 1907 01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:39,000 Speaker 2: sideline suddenly made the forty nine ers amazing. I do 1908 01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:42,400 Speaker 2: think they needed some rest. I do think that there 1909 01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:47,240 Speaker 2: were health issues, no doubt about it, And the whole 1910 01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:50,320 Speaker 2: thing would have felt differently if a rookie kicker had 1911 01:54:50,400 --> 01:54:53,960 Speaker 2: just hit a forty yard field goal anyway in Cleveland. 1912 01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:57,680 Speaker 2: So like, I put all of those qualifiers out there. 1913 01:54:57,680 --> 01:55:00,560 Speaker 2: But at the same time, how does the best team 1914 01:55:00,600 --> 01:55:05,240 Speaker 2: in football go on a three game losing streak like that? Like, 1915 01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:08,160 Speaker 2: in your opinion, what happened? 1916 01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:13,520 Speaker 3: I think we talked about it a little bit and 1917 01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:18,800 Speaker 3: when the first game happened. When when they lost to 1918 01:55:18,840 --> 01:55:23,520 Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns in Cleveland and Debo got hurt, Christian 1919 01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:29,120 Speaker 3: got banged up, Trent Williams was hurt. You know it 1920 01:55:29,200 --> 01:55:32,280 Speaker 3: was we were debating what do you do with Christian 1921 01:55:32,360 --> 01:55:37,880 Speaker 3: McCaffrey going into that Monday night game that was the 1922 01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:41,880 Speaker 3: day after our show the next week, and I said, look, 1923 01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:45,960 Speaker 3: if there's any question on his health, I'm not letting 1924 01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:48,040 Speaker 3: him play. I don't care if he wants to play 1925 01:55:48,120 --> 01:55:51,280 Speaker 3: if he's you know, the touchdown record that he had 1926 01:55:51,320 --> 01:55:58,160 Speaker 3: going that ended today. Because when this team is healthy, 1927 01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:02,200 Speaker 3: they are the best team in the NFL. And I 1928 01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:04,440 Speaker 3: think that's you know, you say, well, no one on 1929 01:56:04,520 --> 01:56:07,240 Speaker 3: defense was really hurt. And I go back to another 1930 01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:09,840 Speaker 3: point that I made when we were talking about Steve 1931 01:56:09,880 --> 01:56:13,920 Speaker 3: Wilks a couple of weeks ago, was it's all intertwined 1932 01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:16,800 Speaker 3: and they feed off each other. And you could tell 1933 01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:21,520 Speaker 3: the energy that that team had today with Deebo and 1934 01:56:21,640 --> 01:56:24,920 Speaker 3: Trent Williams walking out of the locker room like they 1935 01:56:24,960 --> 01:56:28,960 Speaker 3: always do, setting the tone for that football team. It's 1936 01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:33,040 Speaker 3: not just the offense, it's the defense too, and the 1937 01:56:33,080 --> 01:56:38,640 Speaker 3: defense feeds off of a lead that the offense, with 1938 01:56:38,880 --> 01:56:42,280 Speaker 3: all of the talent and skill players that they had 1939 01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:47,440 Speaker 3: back completely healthy today, allows them to do on defense. 1940 01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:50,720 Speaker 3: And then I've talked about the additions that they've made 1941 01:56:50,720 --> 01:56:53,400 Speaker 3: to the front and Randy Gregory and Chase Young and 1942 01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:56,840 Speaker 3: just the ability to get after the quarterback and how 1943 01:56:57,240 --> 01:56:59,920 Speaker 3: you know, at that point, it really doesn't matter what 1944 01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:04,920 Speaker 3: coverage Steve Wilks is calling, because the ball's got to 1945 01:57:04,920 --> 01:57:06,920 Speaker 3: come out. The quarterback has to get rid of it 1946 01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:08,680 Speaker 3: or he's gonna get sacked when you have guys like 1947 01:57:08,720 --> 01:57:11,960 Speaker 3: that rushing the passer. So for me, I think you 1948 01:57:11,960 --> 01:57:15,400 Speaker 3: can describe it in one word, and it's health. They 1949 01:57:15,440 --> 01:57:20,280 Speaker 3: got healthy, they rested up, the quarterback cleared his mind 1950 01:57:20,320 --> 01:57:23,960 Speaker 3: on the tractor back in Iowa, and they went to 1951 01:57:24,080 --> 01:57:25,640 Speaker 3: Jacksonville and got a big win. 1952 01:57:27,200 --> 01:57:30,160 Speaker 2: You opened my eyes to something, though, and I'll share 1953 01:57:30,160 --> 01:57:32,320 Speaker 2: with you. We had Kurt Warner on the show this 1954 01:57:32,360 --> 01:57:34,720 Speaker 2: week and he said the exact same thing that you did, 1955 01:57:34,760 --> 01:57:37,000 Speaker 2: which is that this offense is not built to come 1956 01:57:37,000 --> 01:57:40,720 Speaker 2: from behind. This offense is not built to just drop 1957 01:57:40,840 --> 01:57:45,080 Speaker 2: back and stand there and throw the football all over 1958 01:57:45,120 --> 01:57:49,640 Speaker 2: the yard. Allah what we've seen Tom Brady and Patrick 1959 01:57:49,720 --> 01:57:52,760 Speaker 2: Mahomes and people like that do in the past. And 1960 01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:56,080 Speaker 2: it's not to compare Rock Party to those quarterbacks. That's 1961 01:57:56,080 --> 01:57:58,080 Speaker 2: not what I'm trying to do at all. But if 1962 01:57:58,080 --> 01:58:01,880 Speaker 2: this is the super Bowl favorite or the team that 1963 01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:06,040 Speaker 2: feels like a really big flaw to me, where it 1964 01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:10,600 Speaker 2: puts an importance on that first quarter that like I 1965 01:58:10,600 --> 01:58:14,360 Speaker 2: would almost be uncomfortable with, and in fact, a few 1966 01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:16,840 Speaker 2: of those games that they lost, like that's kind of 1967 01:58:16,840 --> 01:58:19,880 Speaker 2: what happened. They started moving right down the field and 1968 01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:23,680 Speaker 2: then they'd have somebody fumble in the red zone, and 1969 01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:26,400 Speaker 2: then the other team scores first, and all of a sudden, 1970 01:58:26,600 --> 01:58:30,840 Speaker 2: it changes the entire game plan. Like, is that like 1971 01:58:30,920 --> 01:58:34,760 Speaker 2: an okay flaw to have if that's your main flaw 1972 01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:36,080 Speaker 2: as a team. 1973 01:58:36,640 --> 01:58:39,160 Speaker 3: I think it is, because again, we're not talking about 1974 01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:42,840 Speaker 3: just playing from behind here. We're talking about once you're 1975 01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:47,800 Speaker 3: down multiple scores and you have to change the mentality 1976 01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:50,640 Speaker 3: on offense as a play color. You know, at some 1977 01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:55,000 Speaker 3: point you can't just continue to run the football and 1978 01:58:55,040 --> 01:58:59,120 Speaker 3: do all of the things that Kyle Shanahan does off 1979 01:58:59,160 --> 01:59:02,480 Speaker 3: of the run, because at that point, when you're down 1980 01:59:02,680 --> 01:59:07,080 Speaker 3: multiple scores, it turns into a drop back pass game. 1981 01:59:07,280 --> 01:59:09,480 Speaker 3: And you know, I think that's one of the other 1982 01:59:09,480 --> 01:59:12,280 Speaker 3: things when you look at brock Perdy and the turnovers 1983 01:59:12,320 --> 01:59:15,440 Speaker 3: and you know, when did they happen? You know, late 1984 01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:17,640 Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter when you're down and you're trying 1985 01:59:17,680 --> 01:59:22,520 Speaker 3: to force the football, So you know, I think we 1986 01:59:22,840 --> 01:59:25,360 Speaker 3: saw it when they made the Super Bowl run in 1987 01:59:25,400 --> 01:59:31,400 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen. It's it's not a big deal if that's 1988 01:59:31,440 --> 01:59:33,760 Speaker 3: your only flaw, that you don't play well when you're 1989 01:59:33,760 --> 01:59:37,560 Speaker 3: down multiple scores. You know they're not built to get down. 1990 01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:41,440 Speaker 3: So no, it's definitely not something that I would worry about. 1991 01:59:41,480 --> 01:59:43,320 Speaker 3: I just think it's something that you have to point 1992 01:59:43,320 --> 01:59:47,000 Speaker 3: out when you watch this team play and understand why 1993 01:59:47,000 --> 01:59:48,440 Speaker 3: they do things the way they do them. 1994 01:59:49,840 --> 01:59:52,560 Speaker 2: Great stuff, my man. Always fun to talk out football 1995 01:59:52,560 --> 01:59:55,080 Speaker 2: with you on a Sunday night, and I am already 1996 01:59:55,080 --> 01:59:56,840 Speaker 2: looking forward to doing it again next week. 1997 01:59:58,160 --> 01:59:59,440 Speaker 3: Looking forward to it too, Mark. 1998 02:00:00,440 --> 02:00:03,240 Speaker 2: Yep, there it is for Kyle Rudolph. I'm Mark Willard. 1999 02:00:03,280 --> 02:00:07,000 Speaker 2: Week ten. 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