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Speaker 1: your hosts, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross.
Speaker 1: Thursday edition of Hanging with the Boylife from the s
Speaker 1: WBC Mortgage living Room in Frisco. Shannon Gross, Jesse Holly,
Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Chris bean Man in the board
Speaker 1: talking to myself in the background. I love here, Chris
Speaker 1: be mutch us uh oh Man. Well, I think the
Speaker 1: show was gonna go one direction today, but I think
Speaker 1: we have to uh. I think we have to address
Speaker 1: some comments that were made by uh one Xavier Wood, Shannon,
Speaker 1: I don't want to get fired this week. Help me
Speaker 1: not get fired this week. Well, I mean, we got
Speaker 1: to talk about we bring this off top, we gotta
Speaker 1: tell it about it. I'm gonna let Kurt answer it.
Speaker 1: Let it's national. It's it's national news. So we wouldn't
Speaker 1: be doing our fans justice if we don't talk about this.
Speaker 1: And I and you know what, and I have a
Speaker 1: I have an honest I have a legitimate question because
Speaker 1: you can't say what he said. So, Jesse, do you
Speaker 1: haven't pulled up? Do one of y'all have it pulled up?
Speaker 1: What is what his quote was, Kurt, do you have it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: go see if you find it. You kind of go
Speaker 1: ahead the shorter version he said. Xavier Wood said on
Speaker 1: the fan Radio Network or Flagship we're in the NFL.
Speaker 1: You don't expect guys to go full speed for seventy plays.
Speaker 1: That's not possible. We're going to push as hard as
Speaker 1: we can. You don't expect expect a backside corner to
Speaker 1: make a play on the opposite side if he's running
Speaker 1: full speed the whole time. It's just not possible, to
Speaker 1: be honest, which I think it's probably true that you know, guy,
Speaker 1: if a players going the other way, the cornerback's probably
Speaker 1: not totally busting his butt over there. But that's just
Speaker 1: not something you say, right, That's what I'm saying. That's
Speaker 1: my point is and that's my guy. West Monroe High
Speaker 1: school graduate, same high school as me and Brady James.
Speaker 1: I you can't say now it makes sense. Now it
Speaker 1: makes sense. He's from Westminrow, Louisiana, So it makes sense
Speaker 1: that the mental that there's a shortage between what happens
Speaker 1: in the brand and what comes off the tongue. He
Speaker 1: from your same hometown. Now it all makes s I'm
Speaker 1: not not at him anymore. Now it makes sense. But
Speaker 1: you here's here's my question. I mean, my question you guys,
Speaker 1: is he's not wrong? Like you can't go one hundred
Speaker 1: percent for seventy plays. You got you have to save
Speaker 1: something in the tank. But is the issue that is
Speaker 1: the issue, just that you can't say that, especially when
Speaker 1: a defense is being questioned, when efforts being questioned and
Speaker 1: all that. I mean, he he's not wrong, is he?
Speaker 1: Or tell me? I don't know. I've never played the
Speaker 1: game where I had to go out and run seventy
Speaker 1: plays at a professional level. Boys don't want to talk
Speaker 1: fear than Shannon Ahead. Please, you know I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you some fellas. To me, it ain't funny you just
Speaker 1: get gash for three hundred and seven yards, you're in
Speaker 1: the hole, missing tackles as a safety, It's not funny.
Speaker 1: You you catch your starting line back a jogging and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden he realized the reverses coming
Speaker 1: red at him. Then he start running you your interior
Speaker 1: office defensive line by the stats, and ESPN says, out
Speaker 1: of seventy six players versus the run, your ability to
Speaker 1: stop ranks seventy two, seventy three, seventy four. And then
Speaker 1: you make this statement and turn yourself into a national joke.
Speaker 1: And and that bothers me because that ain't That ain't
Speaker 1: the way we do it. That is not supposed to
Speaker 1: be right. So for all you guys and girls that
Speaker 1: think that it's okay to do that, you're wrong. That's
Speaker 1: why the Ravens are where they're at, and that's why
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, wait, they are because that's acceptable. Xavier Woods
Speaker 1: is wrong and every sense of the way, Nate and
Speaker 1: I know this every single day in practice, there is
Speaker 1: this drill that's called the pursuit drill that you see
Speaker 1: defensive coordinators, linebacker coaches, DV coaches where they do drills
Speaker 1: where someone's over the ball and everybody's engaged and the
Speaker 1: ball goes one way and then everybody rallies to the football,
Speaker 1: the backside corner, the backside defensive, then the backs. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. You work on these drills every single day. Now,
Speaker 1: if you can tell me at any given time in
Speaker 1: an NFL game, when there is a play where you're
Speaker 1: okay with loafing or not going full speed, you let
Speaker 1: me know, because on any given play, you don't know
Speaker 1: if the guy in front of you is going to
Speaker 1: make the tackle. You don't know if that play is
Speaker 1: going to break, You don't know if the ball is
Speaker 1: going to come out. You see, this is the difference
Speaker 1: between championship winning teams and sorry, sorry, a football teams. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is into that. I'm glad this is This is
Speaker 1: the difference because when you have guys who even think
Speaker 1: like this, let alone saying it out loud, when you
Speaker 1: have players that you are putting on the field that
Speaker 1: are supposed to be the leaders of your football team,
Speaker 1: and this is and this is the mentality that they have. Well,
Speaker 1: I can't go hard for seventy plays, bs. It's the
Speaker 1: reason you are one in three. It's the reason why
Speaker 1: you are the laughing stock of the National Football League.
Speaker 1: It is the reason why you can't find a way
Speaker 1: to win football games because you have too many players
Speaker 1: on this football team with the mentality of I don't
Speaker 1: have to go hard every single play, and when you
Speaker 1: have one, two, three, it's contagious. It gets around the
Speaker 1: locker room and it's infectious. And so you have these
Speaker 1: guys on this football team who think, who act, and
Speaker 1: who practice the way that Xavier Woods is talking about.
Speaker 1: And then we see the horse crap that you put
Speaker 1: out there on Sunday because you can't tell me when
Speaker 1: is a play available for you to loaf, because you
Speaker 1: don't don't You don't ever know when that play is
Speaker 1: gonna break, when something's going to happen. When you watch
Speaker 1: the good football teams, the good football teams, the playoff contending,
Speaker 1: Super Bowl contending football teams, they rally to the football,
Speaker 1: eleven guy to the football. You learn that far before
Speaker 1: you get to the National Football League. And so for
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods to utter that disrespect, that is disrespectful stuff
Speaker 1: to say to those who play the game the right way,
Speaker 1: for those who did not loaf, for those who wasn't
Speaker 1: looking for a way out, for those who was giving
Speaker 1: every single thing that they got on every single play,
Speaker 1: because you do not know when it's your last play,
Speaker 1: it is. It is upsetting, ended up setting. It is
Speaker 1: sickening to someone who's played this game. Who cherishes this game?
Speaker 1: To hear a guy come out of his mouth with
Speaker 1: crap like that, to think this is a guy that
Speaker 1: you're putting on your football field every single week as
Speaker 1: a brother in the game. I want all my guys
Speaker 1: to go hard every and if you need a blow, hey,
Speaker 1: I need a blow, tap your head, go get a blow.
Speaker 1: But while you're in between those lines, it is always
Speaker 1: one hundred miles an hour trying to reach that. But
Speaker 1: if this is the sad thing? Is so? What you're
Speaker 1: saying is it would have been all right a week
Speaker 1: or so ago if the young rookie would have just
Speaker 1: gave up on that bomb that DJ Metcalf called. That
Speaker 1: was cool if he had just gave up, right, Is
Speaker 1: that what you're saying? See, you gotta think, You gotta think.
Speaker 1: You gotta think before you allow. You know. So you
Speaker 1: tell your kid, if you got a kid that want
Speaker 1: to play football, hey, son, when the ball way over there,
Speaker 1: don't don't try, you know, I mean, it don't make sense. Now.
Speaker 1: Can you go full speed every play? No, you can't.
Speaker 1: But are you trying to get there? Yes you are?
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna crush these kids exist, No, he
Speaker 1: needs to be crushed. But but but you can't say that
Speaker 1: name that is cannot I'm not gonna crush the kid.
Speaker 1: But like rich Da Rubber once told me, if you
Speaker 1: don't know what to say, son, because he had to
Speaker 1: look a bewilderment saying this, just speak quiet, Just stop yourself,
Speaker 1: Just say hold on? What am I saying here? Never
Speaker 1: been taught that, never been asked to be that? Hey,
Speaker 1: shut up? Just how he think going to handle this? Is?
Speaker 1: This is the coach is gonna say summer to the players. Now.
Speaker 1: I ain't nobody gonna say that. He canna say that
Speaker 1: he been that loaf. All I'm saying is this game here?
Speaker 1: Does somebody get behind him? If he loath what is this?
Speaker 1: What's gonna be his excuse? Is that the play that
Speaker 1: I should have been running. So he heart itself and
Speaker 1: put himself on alert. He ain't got to say that.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody got what I'm trying to say. Somebody may
Speaker 1: say something to him, but what do you have to
Speaker 1: say when the game starts? What is your what is
Speaker 1: your forefront of your mind? Ain't blowing nor sign And
Speaker 1: I definitely ain't gonna be low and see that That's
Speaker 1: the way that I took it was like he was saying,
Speaker 1: it's not physically possible for you to go one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: There's it's not physically possible, but it sounds like to
Speaker 1: hear you're in Jesse's reaction is you don't be trying
Speaker 1: to get that, bro right. But if you might only
Speaker 1: be a percent because you're winded or whatever, you you
Speaker 1: don't ever convey the message that I'm not going to
Speaker 1: give whatever my hunt like I only maybe at eighty
Speaker 1: percent capacity, but I'm giving one hundred percent of that
Speaker 1: eighty percent. The way that I interpret it was just
Speaker 1: physically it's not possible. But you guys, sounds like you
Speaker 1: guys are really taking exception to you know, as guys
Speaker 1: the game. You don't say that. You don't say that,
Speaker 1: But let me ask you this question. If if when
Speaker 1: you watch when you go back and you watch NFL
Speaker 1: games and the Kyle wasn't been playing upwards in the
Speaker 1: sixty five to seventy two apps, a game when you
Speaker 1: go down and you go back and you just really
Speaker 1: break down that film a football game usually comes down
Speaker 1: to about four or five players in that game that
Speaker 1: was made or quote unquote not made like you think
Speaker 1: about all that is going on is that you can
Speaker 1: pinpoint about four or five player, you'd black one or
Speaker 1: two players here and there, and boy, we got this thing.
Speaker 1: And then I go back and I watched them do
Speaker 1: a fifty yard reverse to Odell Beckham for a touchdown.
Speaker 1: And at the end of that play, you see Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith trying to run down Odell Beckham, but only after
Speaker 1: he realizes, oh, by the way, after Joe Thomas and
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods and all the other guys ran themselves out
Speaker 1: of position of the play, which is beyond me. But
Speaker 1: I watched that play and you see it the last minute,
Speaker 1: Jayala Smith tries to go onto another gear. But if
Speaker 1: you rewind it, you watch Jaylen Smith, watch the play,
Speaker 1: watch the play walk kind of jog jog, jog, and
Speaker 1: then it's that old ish moment happens and he takes off. Now,
Speaker 1: just think about because Xavier Wood said it's physically impossible
Speaker 1: not to go hard every single down, think about this.
Speaker 1: If Jayleen Smith, and I'm using him for an example
Speaker 1: because that's the thing that I remember the most, if
Speaker 1: he is on his horse from Jump Street, there's no
Speaker 1: touchdown because he gets to a point in a dead
Speaker 1: sprit where he's able to reach out and grab Odell's
Speaker 1: Beckham's arm, where he's after he's a loaf and taking
Speaker 1: his time to get there. Just imagine if he had,
Speaker 1: if he had went one hundred miles an hour from
Speaker 1: the start, Maybe he calls a fumble, maybe they don't
Speaker 1: score it, and that they have to play another down,
Speaker 1: and maybe Baker mayfield those There's all these scenarios that
Speaker 1: happen when you go back and you look at these things.
Speaker 1: So to say that you can't go one hundred miles
Speaker 1: an hour every single down, that that is. Get off
Speaker 1: the field, son, Get off the field like that. That
Speaker 1: is that is that is sickening. It. It boils my
Speaker 1: blood as someone who was a player who had to
Speaker 1: fight for every single rep that he got. God, whether
Speaker 1: I got one rep or one hundred reps, I'm giving
Speaker 1: you everything I got, whether it's black blocking backside route,
Speaker 1: running on a kickoff on a kickoff return. But to
Speaker 1: tell me that you you it's not possible to go
Speaker 1: every every down one hundred miles an hour. Get off
Speaker 1: the field. Your mindset is the reason, a part of
Speaker 1: the reason why this team is as bad and this
Speaker 1: defense is as bad as it's been all year, Loan,
Speaker 1: because you have people who are who are playing ninety
Speaker 1: percent or more of the snaps who think like him.
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take our first break, and when
Speaker 1: we come back, we're gonna try to cheer Nate up.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that I started this show off on the
Speaker 1: wrong foot and got you guys angry. Y'all are mad
Speaker 1: Nates like rubbing his four Nothing to do with it, man,
Speaker 1: It just it just it's just man. I'm a cowboy
Speaker 1: fan for real. I'm not a fake. And I played
Speaker 1: when we were down, and I played when we were up.
Speaker 1: And for when I hear people say this, who's spend
Speaker 1: their heart on money that can make excuses for a
Speaker 1: guy not performing? That don't make sense to me. It
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to me if we can make excuses
Speaker 1: for guys not performing. All right, let's take our first break.
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Speaker 1: stab my pockets up. I just looked at Dernay Holmes
Speaker 1: come up on the running back safety just come up
Speaker 1: on the running back giving masters meth for trying to
Speaker 1: get on well Nate, Nate, I did, h what used
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Speaker 1: your former teammates on the show. We had Tony Cassie
Speaker 1: Us on the show See What's Up? Without us even
Speaker 1: saying it, he said, the prescription for the Cowboys is
Speaker 1: coming down this weekend. Did he get a Nate credit?
Speaker 1: And he I did. I jumped in and I said,
Speaker 1: I don't know what? Did he give Nate credit? No,
Speaker 1: he didn't even know that. He didn't even know Nate
Speaker 1: had talked about university. You're not say universe the thing
Speaker 1: we use. You know that to use it too, you know?
Speaker 1: I told him. Nate said, the drug store has been
Speaker 1: coming to town all week, so he's on the same page.
Speaker 1: He thinks that this is what is going to cure
Speaker 1: the Cowboys this week. They should handle business. You got
Speaker 1: coach Garrett coming to town running their offense. Nate, what
Speaker 1: are you expecting from the Giants offense this week? They
Speaker 1: I look at them, and they're trying, but they're just
Speaker 1: not good enough. Their quarterback is taking a step back
Speaker 1: for some reason. They've lost their main running back, the
Speaker 1: two wide receivers, the big horses ain't doing nothing. I
Speaker 1: heard or something because I don't even see them on
Speaker 1: the report. So they're just trying to get through games.
Speaker 1: They're just trying to survive. I mean, you can see
Speaker 1: what they're trying to do, but they're just not good
Speaker 1: enough to do it. And and and if you play
Speaker 1: turnover free, if you've if you get some turnovers, expect
Speaker 1: if you get some turnovers, you can crush these guys offense.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you. I mean, last week they rushed
Speaker 1: for one hundred and thirty six yards against the Rams,
Speaker 1: which the Rams, you know, they're not gray. They're eighteenth
Speaker 1: against the run this year, but Dallas is last. I mean,
Speaker 1: what makes you and we you know we can talk
Speaker 1: a little about you can ask you the same question, right,
Speaker 1: what makes you think they can stop these guys. Our
Speaker 1: offense is better, way better than their defense. So our
Speaker 1: defense and their office is about the same. And I
Speaker 1: hate to bring this up. It's gonna come down to
Speaker 1: who won't to the most. Oh okay, thank you. It's
Speaker 1: gonna come down to who wants it in the most,
Speaker 1: our defense or their offense. Okay. And I hate to
Speaker 1: bring that up, but you set me up, Kurt, Thank you.
Speaker 1: Nice bye. Just said my correct. I mean, we got
Speaker 1: the better offense, your special It's gonna come down to
Speaker 1: who got the better office of defense there must and
Speaker 1: what they're and what they're gonna And here's a thing.
Speaker 1: And Jason Garrett came out. He said today said this
Speaker 1: defense looks way different than what I remember it being
Speaker 1: a year ago. Um, you know, just same same players,
Speaker 1: but it just looks different. Um. They alluded to it
Speaker 1: the other day, say look different. Yeah, yeah, he said,
Speaker 1: same guys, it just looks different. Um wow, he said,
Speaker 1: I'm a real Then Jason dolins Jason Norman to say, hey,
Speaker 1: that's a great team. They're smart, they do all your
Speaker 1: coach phrases that you hate. Yes, but this is a
Speaker 1: copycat league. And if you see how how coach Garrett
Speaker 1: is trying to run their offenses. They're trying to limit
Speaker 1: the times that Daniel Jones has to drop back and
Speaker 1: throw the ball downfield. They want to be able to
Speaker 1: establish the run, you know, have him pass the ball,
Speaker 1: you know, two hundred yards. But really just being now,
Speaker 1: their defense has been keeping them in a lot of
Speaker 1: football games. They've been playing to a point where they've
Speaker 1: been able to keep themselves in football games, keep themselves afloat.
Speaker 1: It's the offensive side for the Giants that has not
Speaker 1: been able to produce points. Of course, when you lose
Speaker 1: your best running back in say Kwan Barkley, you know,
Speaker 1: that's your bell cow. He does so much stuff for
Speaker 1: your for your offense because he's a kind of guy
Speaker 1: that can take, you know, what looks to be maybe
Speaker 1: a one or two yard game and turn it into
Speaker 1: a fourteen yard game or something that looks like it's
Speaker 1: going to be a ten yard game and they go
Speaker 1: to the house or catch passes out of the backfield.
Speaker 1: So now when you don't have in you add your
Speaker 1: backups and you don't have much talent at the wire
Speaker 1: receiving position. You know, the golden take is one of
Speaker 1: those guys who's always tried to have big games, and
Speaker 1: he's had big game. He's been a cowboy killer for
Speaker 1: a couple of years. Whether it's been in Seattle, whether
Speaker 1: it's been in Detroit, he's always come in and had
Speaker 1: a pretty good game. But they they want to do,
Speaker 1: they want to do what we what got done to
Speaker 1: us last week. Okay, they want to try to be
Speaker 1: able to establish the line of scrimmage, run the football,
Speaker 1: use play action pass. We know what Jason Garrett is. Uh.
Speaker 1: The problem is they don't have as good, nowhere near
Speaker 1: as good as an offensive line as Cleveland has. They
Speaker 1: don't have anything close to the running backs that Cleveland
Speaker 1: had um and so they're trying to do things. You
Speaker 1: to Nate was perfectly when he said it. You try
Speaker 1: to see what they're doing. They just don't have the
Speaker 1: Jimmies and Joe's to execute with the exes and os.
Speaker 1: You know, you you that it's gonna look very similar
Speaker 1: to what it did a week ago. The problem is
Speaker 1: they don't have a hunt or uh, you know, a
Speaker 1: conkling upfronts. They just don't. They don't. They don't have
Speaker 1: the horses, they don't have the dogs, they don't have
Speaker 1: the Nick Chubbs, but they have Colombo as their offices
Speaker 1: line coaching. He he is gonna be upset that he's
Speaker 1: not nosensive line coach here. Yeah, listen, you can do
Speaker 1: whatever you want when you just when you can have
Speaker 1: And that's the thing about this league is you can
Speaker 1: you can design whatever XS and O that you want
Speaker 1: to design if you don't have to Jimmies and Joels
Speaker 1: to execute it. And we're seeing that on our end
Speaker 1: as well. You're just you just out here, just you're
Speaker 1: just trying. You're just trying to hold something works. That's
Speaker 1: the concern. I mean, do we have the Jimmy and
Speaker 1: Joe's on our defensive line? I mean we got the
Speaker 1: Jimmies and Joel's. Yeah, yeah, we literally got the Jimmies
Speaker 1: and Joes. Leave me. Hey, what's more? What's more? By
Speaker 1: the way, it's Mark Colombo's birthday today, Shout out Mark Colombo.
Speaker 1: What more? What's more frustrating as a player knowing you
Speaker 1: have the talent and you're not capitalizing on it and
Speaker 1: not executing, or just knowing you don't have the guys
Speaker 1: to put to try to pull off what you're trying
Speaker 1: to do. The first part knowing you have the talent
Speaker 1: and just got doing you know, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: the last the last six Cleveland coaches have had the talent. Stemfaski, Stefoski,
Speaker 1: whatever his name is, the one that's making it work. Okay,
Speaker 1: Cleveland has been that team, man for the last two
Speaker 1: and a half years. They have been that team. They
Speaker 1: half the talent offensively and defensive and special team. And
Speaker 1: we saw what they did with just decent coaching. You know,
Speaker 1: but do we have the talent? I guess what the
Speaker 1: question is. I mean, we got the Jimmy's Jones. He's
Speaker 1: just told you, but we got the goes like you said,
Speaker 1: it goes back to one two. I saw somewhere where
Speaker 1: like Cleveland gained five yards average five almost five yards
Speaker 1: after contact last week. I mean that's just poor tackling, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, but they also gained almost five yards before contact,
Speaker 1: half a dozen, six and another. You know what I'm saying. Hey,
Speaker 1: I agree not to harp on this and not to
Speaker 1: go back and try to bring the show down, but
Speaker 1: we only have three minutes left in this segment. So
Speaker 1: if I do bring it down for three minutes, I apologize.
Speaker 1: We'll lift it back up when we come back from break.
Speaker 1: But to go back to Xavier's comments, can that be
Speaker 1: a good thing? Not that he made those comments, not
Speaker 1: that he did that, but can it be a good
Speaker 1: thing that for this team that Okay, now the national
Speaker 1: spotlight like we can't loaf? We Could this be a
Speaker 1: turning point where players are calling each other and calling
Speaker 1: themselves out and it's like, Okay, we gotta get this fixed.
Speaker 1: Could this be like a come to Jesus moment where
Speaker 1: it's a turning point in the season for this defense?
Speaker 1: Or is that just is there no good that can
Speaker 1: come out of that? If I knew this, see, if
Speaker 1: I knew their core and who they were in the
Speaker 1: first three games, then I'd be like, yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: I don't know they core. So I'm just gonna wait
Speaker 1: and see. I don't I don't know, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, it's just there as a certain thing
Speaker 1: that's become wild to me is when you have to
Speaker 1: start finding things to motivate you. I just and maybe
Speaker 1: I'm just different, Maybe I'm just cut from a different cloth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just like, you need to find things to motivate
Speaker 1: you to go play the game of football. Are you
Speaker 1: kidding me, sitting grows like, are you kidding me? Like
Speaker 1: I do? I need to say something dumb. I need
Speaker 1: to have this foul doodoo come out of my mouth
Speaker 1: and have people across the nation ridicule me, laugh at me,
Speaker 1: call me names, for me to go out there and
Speaker 1: play hard? Are you freaking kidding me? Come on, like,
Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't understand that logic. Will something
Speaker 1: great come out of this? I have no clue. But
Speaker 1: if you gotta do, if you, if it comes to
Speaker 1: this in order to get you to play hard, or
Speaker 1: in order to get you to not loaf on a play,
Speaker 1: damn it, don't play. Just go do something else. Go
Speaker 1: play backgammon, Go, go go read a book, Go do
Speaker 1: something else. You should not have to find exterior motivation
Speaker 1: to get up for a football game. You this game
Speaker 1: hurts too much, Shannon, This game hurts too much, Kurt,
Speaker 1: Chris Beam that you know this. It hurts too much.
Speaker 1: You put too much time, energy and effort. You sacrifice
Speaker 1: too much. You'll spend more time in this facility on
Speaker 1: the practice field than you do with your natural born family.
Speaker 1: And so for me to have to hear someone to say,
Speaker 1: I gotta find motivation elsewhere or this, or you ask
Speaker 1: the question, will this help galvanize this group? It's mind
Speaker 1: blowing to me that I like, this is what you do.
Speaker 1: Come on, I just don't. I don't get it. I don't.
Speaker 1: And again, I'm I'm a little bit older than these guys.
Speaker 1: I was raised under a different group of circumstances and
Speaker 1: a different set of principles than these dudes. But god lye,
Speaker 1: it drives me say I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: It drives me insane to even think, Oh, it's just
Speaker 1: we'll see. Man, this this is this is a good
Speaker 1: game to watch. I mean, everything is building right, Everything
Speaker 1: is building right. I mean we're going up a hill now.
Speaker 1: Everything is building right. Shandew we will see, Okay, we
Speaker 1: will see. And I will get your opinions when we
Speaker 1: come back, Kurt, We're gonna get you to give us
Speaker 1: some staffs. I want to get your opinions. Is this.
Speaker 1: This is a division game, and the worst division arguably
Speaker 1: in football right now. So you're right in the thick
Speaker 1: of it, even though you're one in three, you're in
Speaker 1: the drivers. How do you not want to compete. I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm over hit tripping. We not want to compete
Speaker 1: at a hun All right, go ahead, let's go to break. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll go to break. I want to know when we
Speaker 1: come back. Is this a must win game for the Cowboys?
Speaker 1: Five games into the season already. We'll get into that
Speaker 1: and much more when we come back. I'll hang it
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Speaker 1: you're welcome. Last ten minutes of the show, Kurt. You
Speaker 1: got some stats for us? You want to run through
Speaker 1: some stats? You want to what do you want to do? Listen,
Speaker 1: this is your segment. You weren't you weren't here yesterday,
Speaker 1: so this segment, Yeah, take it away, Kurt. Kurt Daniels,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. Well, you had mentioned, I guess before
Speaker 1: the break that you know is this a must win
Speaker 1: game three of the next four games or against NFC's opponents.
Speaker 1: So this is the worst division in football, So miraculously
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are still in it, obviously, but how important
Speaker 1: is this game? If they do, they need to make
Speaker 1: statements now, I mean i'd assume they obviously do. But
Speaker 1: what do you guys think is this? Is this a
Speaker 1: must win game? I thought last week was a must
Speaker 1: win game because I saw the talent that Cleveland had
Speaker 1: and I thought it would be a great thing for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys to win. So, uh, you don't know what
Speaker 1: this season bring, how it would be cut off short,
Speaker 1: will it go long? You don't know. So every win
Speaker 1: is so much figger this year because it's a pandemic
Speaker 1: gear and uh and one in three and you know,
Speaker 1: and we can say we should have beat these teams.
Speaker 1: What you're saying is if we should have beat these teams. Uh,
Speaker 1: you're saying that this is a playoff bound team. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't see it yet. I don't I really don't
Speaker 1: see it yet. I think this is a must win this,
Speaker 1: This is a must win for the Cowboy. First of all,
Speaker 1: you can't afford even in the standings, but just from
Speaker 1: the the the the outside world perspective, you can't afford
Speaker 1: to lose another game. You can't afford to lose a
Speaker 1: game in this conference, your your team morale, You're talking,
Speaker 1: you're talking about it. It's bad. Now, lose to the Giants.
Speaker 1: Lose to the Giants, and you you think you think
Speaker 1: they're laughing at you. Now you think they pointing at
Speaker 1: you saying ha ha. Lose to the Giants and you're
Speaker 1: gonna see, you're gonna see he'll break loose. Now. I'm
Speaker 1: with you, Nate, But you're fool about if you want
Speaker 1: to lose to the Giants, you're gonna be You're gonna
Speaker 1: you think you're laughing stock of the National Football League
Speaker 1: right now? Boy, oh boy, oh boy? How much I
Speaker 1: know we've talked a little bit about it before, but
Speaker 1: you know it's since Scarrett was here. You know, there's
Speaker 1: it's a new defensive scheme, there's some new players. But
Speaker 1: how much influence can he actually have in this game?
Speaker 1: How much is there a carryover as far as he
Speaker 1: knows the players? He knows the players, the ones that
Speaker 1: are still here, you know, in some passing schemes what
Speaker 1: they can and cannot do. But where his guys, his
Speaker 1: Joe's whatever Jesse call him, will they'd be good enough
Speaker 1: to to to translate that to the field. We'll see.
Speaker 1: I mean, coaches know you it's it's and I give example,
Speaker 1: you know Rick Sprost for the heat. He know Lebron.
Speaker 1: But see, like I ain't had to go gets Lebron
Speaker 1: seventy game. It is a different story going against that man,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's do we have
Speaker 1: the guys to make it work? Uh? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I hopefully had the guys to make it work. Hey, Kurt,
Speaker 1: you know, fellas, I'm gonna tell you something. Last year
Speaker 1: we was all on coach Marinella for simplicity. But you
Speaker 1: know what guys got. If guys got beat last year,
Speaker 1: it wasn't because I just don't remember a game like that,
Speaker 1: do y'all? I mean just think guys were better than
Speaker 1: our defense, but I don't remember. I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: remember helped me out here, and I'm honest, where did
Speaker 1: the effort go? Is what I'm saying. From the Browns
Speaker 1: game that I thought that that was the first game
Speaker 1: I thought were they just didn't really have the fight
Speaker 1: in them and sorry they are. They missing guys like
Speaker 1: you know, Byron Jones on the back end and Sean
Speaker 1: Lay some of those veterans that that could maybe straighten
Speaker 1: us out a little bit. Are they. Is it gonna
Speaker 1: make a difference from guys like Lee and even last
Speaker 1: year games where teams were better than us, the eight
Speaker 1: losses that we had except the last one against the Eagles,
Speaker 1: teams were better than us. Now nobody wants Jets weren't
Speaker 1: better than us, but teams were better than us. The
Speaker 1: Jets weren't better than us. The Bears. Nah that na
Speaker 1: that Yeah, they wasn't. But at least the guy tried
Speaker 1: to run them on the eighty bomb. Least the guy
Speaker 1: tried to run and catch him. I mean, the effort
Speaker 1: was there. I think the guy the teams they lost
Speaker 1: to this year are better than us. So this is so,
Speaker 1: this is a big game. I guess this is a
Speaker 1: team they should be better than should that and they
Speaker 1: should win. They better win. What I can't figure out, Fellas,
Speaker 1: is that you know and now it's and maybe it's
Speaker 1: just a learning curve this year, and maybe it's the
Speaker 1: new coaching staff and the new whatever. But every year
Speaker 1: for the last four or five years, including this year,
Speaker 1: we hear about the talent. We hear about the talent.
Speaker 1: We hear it internally and we hear it externally. This time,
Speaker 1: this team, they got the talent, they got the talent,
Speaker 1: they got the talent. Well, we used to be able
Speaker 1: to blame it on on coach Garrett. You know that
Speaker 1: was the that was the catch all that was with
Speaker 1: the fans. Well, the offense is to vanilla, the play
Speaker 1: calling is not aggressive enough. Well now you got you
Speaker 1: got a new coaching staff, and we hear about the talent.
Speaker 1: The talent, especially on the offense. You got all these
Speaker 1: offensive weapons and thee oh they're producer now. But you
Speaker 1: know it's it's it seems like we always we either
Speaker 1: overvalue the talent or the talent isn't living up to
Speaker 1: the potential that they have. And I'm just baffles me
Speaker 1: that you know, we we're back here again this year
Speaker 1: after we all, I think everybody on this show thought, hey,
Speaker 1: this is this is the staff that's going to get
Speaker 1: the most out of the talent, and through four games,
Speaker 1: we just haven't seen that yet. This is what I believe.
Speaker 1: I've been let down by done Terry Poe and I've
Speaker 1: been let down by Everson Griffin. Those are guys that
Speaker 1: I knew would make a punch. Now Tyrone Crawford, I'm thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna start seeing the old tyrone, the effort, the
Speaker 1: effort guy because he's coming off injury two double hill surgeries.
Speaker 1: So but other than that, those are the two guys
Speaker 1: who have really let me down defensively. Offensively, you you
Speaker 1: can't have nine turnovers because everything is predicated on our offense.
Speaker 1: Every every everything is predicated on our offense. And all
Speaker 1: our specialties have to do is don't make a mistake. Dude,
Speaker 1: played by the numbers and you will be Okay. We
Speaker 1: gotta learn offensively, have to take control of games time
Speaker 1: of possession along with thirty eight points? Uh is coach
Speaker 1: Kellum got to that point, is Zeke gonna continue to
Speaker 1: put the ball on the ground? Is is that gonna
Speaker 1: continue to throw interceptions with fifty seven passes a game?
Speaker 1: What a what A what a crying shame? Nate? You
Speaker 1: know not you, but I'm saying, what a crying shame.
Speaker 1: Is that we're asking for the bear minimal from professional players.
Speaker 1: Listen to special teams. If you just just don't mess up,
Speaker 1: that's right, I mean deep, if you can just hold them.
Speaker 1: One thing, how pathetic? Yes, is that we are asking
Speaker 1: for the bear minimal from the best of the best
Speaker 1: in the world, Craig top flight security in the world,
Speaker 1: were asking for the just just don't mess it up, please,
Speaker 1: just just We ain't asking you to We ain't asking
Speaker 1: you to be great, we ain't ask you to be sorry.
Speaker 1: We're just saying, please please show us a little grace
Speaker 1: and just just do a little something right. Just please
Speaker 1: don't hurt us. Now pathetic that we have to ask
Speaker 1: for the bear minimum in order for us to stay
Speaker 1: competitive with defense. If you can just give us some effort,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you can just make a play, if
Speaker 1: you can please just get one turnover, then maybe we'll
Speaker 1: have a chance. This is the National freaking Football League,
Speaker 1: and we are asking the bear minimum from the best
Speaker 1: athletes in the world. Yep in Washington and New York
Speaker 1: actually the same thing. And that is pathetic. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: three twelve and one is our division. And so if
Speaker 1: we play heads up special teams, if we play want
Speaker 1: to defense, our offense, your obliterate day defense, and now
Speaker 1: we'll be two and three. And if we I don't
Speaker 1: care what the rest of your division does. It is
Speaker 1: what it is. Until you see better, you can want
Speaker 1: to ask for what for what you for what you've
Speaker 1: seen we're living week to week on and if if
Speaker 1: the defense will just show up a little bit, if like,
Speaker 1: if the offense don't turn the ball over your I mean,
Speaker 1: but you know what, I'm gonna live on that. Niho's
Speaker 1: gonna live on that. Yes he is hurt West Monroe,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna live on that. Kurt before we get
Speaker 1: out of here, zoom in on King Chris, I see,
Speaker 1: you got your a little ode to h Eddie van
Speaker 1: Halen passed away yesterday at sixty five. Got your little
Speaker 1: van halendin on the n the Devil, Yeah, I got
Speaker 1: my little van Halen pan got a little Yeah pictures
Speaker 1: with the Devil, man, big one that hurt. They was
Speaker 1: tough one, bro. They had some good music. Man. What
Speaker 1: was what was your favorite the big blow you? What
Speaker 1: was your favorite with Devil? Were you? Uh, Sammy hagar
Speaker 1: fan or David Lee Roth fan? Uh? You know I
Speaker 1: liked him both, probably Roth the original band better, but
Speaker 1: I was a big hagar fan before he joined and
Speaker 1: and so it didn't he ran up one of these
Speaker 1: one of the other ran out. The police ran out
Speaker 1: the message bottom. What was your favorite album? The first one? Obviously?
Speaker 1: My favorite song was unchanged. So yeah, okay, I heard
Speaker 1: a lot. But back in the day we spent many
Speaker 1: a night rocking out to Van Hayland. Yeah jump was
Speaker 1: did you do something else? Why you was rocking to him?
Speaker 1: I ain't no, I hain't no. My lips are stilled. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you know how you know what to say and
Speaker 1: not what to say? Okay? Yeah? Was actually the whatever
Speaker 1: I was probably that was a skate, That was a
Speaker 1: skate and rink anthem. Whenever I was fourteen or fifteen,
Speaker 1: that's all it would come on and everybody what was it?
Speaker 1: I saw roll, skate, bounce, jump and Panama. Oh man.
Speaker 1: I never saw him in concert. I hate I never
Speaker 1: got there and got to see them. So all right,
Speaker 1: fellas out of top. You know what, I don't even
Speaker 1: know if we I don't even think we can play
Speaker 1: Grayson Grayson nice and not nice tomorrow. I don't even
Speaker 1: don't you think we can do it? Maybe maybe, I
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe we'll figure something out. Maybethetic, no effort. No, hey,
Speaker 1: listen home things of home, and you may call me
Speaker 1: a lot of things, but you will never question my nay.
Speaker 1: Thank you for breathing a Jesse good stuff. Today, Kurt
Speaker 1: r I, p Eddie, Van Haley, Chris, thanks for keeping
Speaker 1: us on the air. Tomorrow we will have We'll figure
Speaker 1: something out tomorrow, Friday, hanging out with the boys. I
Speaker 1: don't know what I just said, but come catch us tomorrow.
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