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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greece.

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Speaker 2: Did a Vegas realtor gunned down her neighbor over some chickens?

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Speaker 2: Did this happen that neighbor a local pastor and in

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Speaker 2: his car at the time daddy is gonned down? Did

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Speaker 2: his children? And did this female realtor then turn the

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Speaker 2: gun on the victim's wife? What over a homeowner association dispute? I,

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Speaker 2: Nancy Grace, this is crime Stories. Thank you for being

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Speaker 2: with us here at crime stories and on serious exem

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Speaker 2: one eleven? What the hey gone down over a chicken

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Speaker 2: and a dog? At a homeowner's disagreement? Take a listen

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Speaker 2: to Pastor ty Neil.

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Speaker 3: Nicholas Nick Davy died suddenly and unexpectedly on Friday December

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Speaker 3: twenty ninth, twenty twenty three, at the age of forty six.

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Speaker 3: Nick Lees's wife eighteen years Sarah, and two children, Olivia

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Speaker 3: fifteen and Christian twelve here survived by his father Dominic

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Speaker 3: and mother Lorraine, sister Jean, and brother Michael.

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Speaker 2: I have an all star panel to make sense of

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Speaker 2: what we know about a pastor getting gunned down outside

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Speaker 2: of his home. The alleged cheeter a female realtor, Joe

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Speaker 2: Junio had been posting online about nightmare neighbors for years

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Speaker 2: before she took a gun and unloaded on the pastor

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Speaker 2: then his wife in front of their children. Now, who

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Speaker 2: do you think is the nightmare? Who? Alexis Raschuk is

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Speaker 2: joining me? Let me go to her first crime Online

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Speaker 2: dot Com investigative reporter, but also with me Craig Drummer,

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Speaker 2: Karen Stark, Chris McDonough, doctor Jan Gorniac, Alexis Terreschuk. You

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Speaker 2: know how close I am to my father who passed away.

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Speaker 2: And as we were hearing his colleague, Pastor ty Nils,

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Speaker 2: speaking of the victim, Nick Davey, all I could think

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Speaker 2: about was my dad. When he was forty six. He

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Speaker 2: was still taking me to basketball and football games where

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Speaker 2: I'd be a cheerleader. We'd go to baseball games together,

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Speaker 2: We'd do everything together as a family. These children, I mean,

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Speaker 2: he was with me until after the children were born.

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Speaker 2: My children, they remember my dad. These children Olivia fifteen twelve,

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Speaker 2: and their dad is gone. I mean, they're going to

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Speaker 2: be without a dad in the best years of their life.

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Speaker 4: And the worst part about it is they saw him

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Speaker 4: get shot right in front of them. It wasn't that

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Speaker 4: it happened somewhere else and they heard about it afterwards.

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Speaker 4: They were right there when their father was murdered.

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Speaker 2: And you know what else, I mean, Alexis and everybody

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Speaker 2: else on the panel probably knows this because I talk

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Speaker 2: about my mom a lot. Who lives with me. Now,

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Speaker 2: this guy is a path was a pastor. It takes

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Speaker 2: a special kind of person to live that life. My

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Speaker 2: mom was our organist or church organist for fifty years

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Speaker 2: and our youth leader for twenty years unpaid, I might add,

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Speaker 2: at our little Methodist church in Making, Georgia. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you have to be following a calling to be a

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Speaker 2: pastor or a volunteer at a local church. And that's

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Speaker 2: exactly what this victim, Nick Davey, was doing. Take a

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Speaker 2: listen to more from his co pastor, Pastor ty Neil.

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Speaker 3: Nick bild a warm and loving community in his adopted

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Speaker 3: home of North Las Vegas after he and Sarah moved

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Speaker 3: there in two thousand and five after being displaced by

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Speaker 3: Hurricane Katrina. He followed a calling and joining Grace Point Church,

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Speaker 3: where he became the pastor of Operations, or as we

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Speaker 3: like to call him, the pooh He's.

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Speaker 2: Laughing I'm just imagining his children and his wife sitting

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Speaker 2: there and all over what happened. Take a listen to

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Speaker 2: Rachel Benee, a crime Online the.

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Speaker 5: Davy family's pulling out of a parking spot as Junio

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Speaker 5: drives by them, and according to new who parks your

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Speaker 5: car right next to the Davy's car and rolls down

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Speaker 5: her windows. Pastor Nick gets out of his car to

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Speaker 5: talk to Junio as the children use cell phones to

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Speaker 5: record the altercation.

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Speaker 2: Now, something had to alert the children that they needed

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Speaker 2: to take out their cell phones and record their dad. Again,

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Speaker 2: joining me an all Star panel, but again to Alexis

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Speaker 2: terresta crimeonline dot Com investigative reporter, there was a history

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Speaker 2: between this woman, this Vegas realtor and the pastor. What

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Speaker 2: do we know?

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Speaker 4: They were next door neighbors, but they had in the

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Speaker 4: last few months filed a restraining order against their neighbors.

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Speaker 4: They claimed that she was Wait.

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Speaker 2: When you're saying they and there, please use full names

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Speaker 2: because we don't know who you're talking about.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, So I am talking about Nick Davy and

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Speaker 4: his wife Sarah. They were neighbors with this woman in

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Speaker 4: called the police multiple times saying that she was harassing them.

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Speaker 4: They were worried about him her and then in fact,

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Speaker 4: they felt so threatened by their neighbor that they moved

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Speaker 4: They've been there a couple hours to pick up their things.

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Speaker 4: This is, you know, where the family lived full time.

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Speaker 4: These aren't wealthy people with several homes. They were just

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Speaker 4: their things, and that's when they came home and she

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Speaker 2: All of this arising out of complaints about chickens and dogs.

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Speaker 2: Is that correct, Alexis.

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Speaker 4: It is because she is keeping so it is probably

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Speaker 4: legal to have the chickens in the backyard. It is

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Speaker 4: where I live on the West Coast. But she was whatever.

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Speaker 4: The way she was keeping them was driving this family crazy.

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Speaker 4: It was very, very unsettling for them. And then she

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Speaker 4: had a lot of dogs, and so they filed complaints

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Speaker 4: and the chickens and the dogs were unacceptable in the

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Speaker 2: Well, hold on, I can tell you a little bit

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Speaker 2: about that, having grown up in the country. Chris mc

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Speaker 2: donne joining me, Director a Cold Case Foundation, former homicide detective,

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Speaker 2: host of a YouTube channel. The interm view Room where

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Speaker 2: I first met him, Chris McDonough, I mean growing up

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Speaker 2: on a farm. For me, it's not just the chickens,

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Speaker 2: but eggs come from somewhere. There's a rooster involved. And

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Speaker 2: you know what roosters do About four am every morning,

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Speaker 2: they're awake and they want everybody else to be awake.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and Nancy, and you just wonder, you know this

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Speaker 6: pastor how many times did you turn the other cheek?

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Speaker 6: And eventually it got to the place where, you know,

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Speaker 6: And you just have to ask yourself, you know what

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Speaker 6: it to such an extreme, especially with the children in.

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Speaker 2: The car, and then turned the gun on his wife

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Speaker 2: over some chickens and a dog. Guys, Well, let's back

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Speaker 2: it up. Who are these people? How did we land here?

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Speaker 2: Take a listen to Sydney Sumner.

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Speaker 7: Nick Davey, born and raised in Riverhead, New York, earns

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Speaker 7: a bachelor's degree from the University of Tampa. He then

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Speaker 7: puts his studies in marine science and biology to work

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Speaker 7: at several large public aquariums in Florida, Mississippi, and Nevada.

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Speaker 7: In two thousand and five, Davy marries his girlfriend Sarah,

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Speaker 7: but the couple is displaced by Hurricane Katrina. They ultimately

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Speaker 7: moved to Las Vegas and joined GracePoint Church. As the

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Speaker 7: Nick Daviy's calling. Pastor Nick Davey joins the staff at

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Speaker 7: church's thirty thousand square foot facility.

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Speaker 2: Wow, so that's who they are and they settle in

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Speaker 2: a gated town home community. Not shabby. Listen.

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Speaker 8: The Davies settle into a gated town home community in

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Speaker 8: North Las Vegas, Court of Aliante. Over the last year,

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Speaker 8: difficulties with a neighbor make it necessary for Day to

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Speaker 8: make multiple complaints to the homeowners association. And that's not all.

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Speaker 8: The situation is so bad Davy calls police twice in

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Speaker 8: one month and obtains a restraining order against the neighbor.

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Speaker 8: The family even moves out of their condo for a

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Speaker 8: few weeks to de escalate the tensions. They stay with friends,

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's get into the bottom of it. What is

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Speaker 2: the law? What is the homeowner association rules? Which can

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Speaker 2: be two entirely different things regarding chickens and dogs? Listen.

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Speaker 9: In Las Vegas, homeowners are allowed to keep up to

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Speaker 9: twenty hens per single family resident. Roosters are not permitted

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Speaker 9: within the city limits. Within the city limits, ten chickens

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Speaker 9: are allowed if neighbors give their blessing and writing. Homeowners

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Speaker 9: are also not allowed to have more than six dogs

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Speaker 9: over the age of three months without a special permit.

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Speaker 9: A homeowners association may have different rules in addition to

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Speaker 9: the city rules. When one of Davies's neighbors reportedly violates

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Speaker 9: the rules, Davey takes the matter to the HOA. Instead

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Speaker 9: of handling the problem, the violator is told about the

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Speaker 9: complaint and who filed it. That's when the problems begin.

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Speaker 2: Instead of doing anything about it, they apparently just rat

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Speaker 2: out the complainant. Okay, joining me as I mentioned an

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Speaker 2: all star panel. But now to Craig W. Drummond joining

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Speaker 2: us from this jurisdiction. High profile lawyer in Vegas. You

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Speaker 2: can find him at Drummondfirm dot com. Former prosecutor Craig Drummond. Craig,

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Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but the phrase familiarity breeds contempt,

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Speaker 2: true or world were never spoken. How many homicides, burglaries,

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Speaker 2: acts of aggression, rapes, peeping charms have been the result

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Speaker 2: of sharing offense. In other words, neighbors, Nancy.

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Speaker 10: As you know, it's extremely common, but that's the reason

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Speaker 10: why homeowners associations are given powers in Nevada, just like

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Speaker 10: any other states, and so they do have the power

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Speaker 10: to control not only the common areas, but also where

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Speaker 10: a neighbor is being a nuisance or a neighbor is

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Speaker 10: encroaching upon the wellness or safety of other neighbors. In Nevada,

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Speaker 10: these hoas do have some control, and so I have

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Speaker 10: lots and lots of questions given the known facts of

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Speaker 10: this case, I want to know what the HOA knew

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Speaker 10: and when they knew it, and what they actually did.

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Speaker 2: Well. I'm trying to figure out Alexis Russhuk if the

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Speaker 2: law is that you can have twenty hens per single

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Speaker 2: family resident and you can hint it says rooster's not

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Speaker 2: permitted in the city limits. And I know why ten

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Speaker 2: they can have They're not allowed to have over six

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Speaker 2: dogs without a special permit.

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Speaker 4: So it seems like this is she was breaking all

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Speaker 4: those rules. But also just saying you're allowed to have chickens,

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Speaker 4: that doesn't mean they can be running around like you

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Speaker 4: have to. You should build a nice coop for them

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Speaker 4: to stay in. But dogs, my cousin have chickens. Their

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Speaker 4: dogs keep eating the chickens in their backyard. It's a mess.

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Speaker 4: This is something. This could be an absolute mess. And

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Speaker 4: it was enough that they complained to the homeowners association

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Speaker 4: multiple times, and she retaliated by a throwing dog poop

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Speaker 4: in their yards. She flooded their.

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Speaker 2: House, throwing faces on their backyard, flooding their home, issuing

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Speaker 2: know why she wasn't already in jail if she did

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Speaker 2: the photo of Junio I have in a shooter stance,

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Speaker 2: Have you seen that picture?

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Speaker 11: I've seen it, Nancy. It's incredible. It's just mind boggling

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Speaker 11: it's so clearly a psychopath, someone who is out to

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Speaker 2: Trying to figure out what the pastor lived through as

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Speaker 2: doctor Gorniac, thank you for being with us. I know

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Speaker 2: that Davy was shot in the stomach, so how would

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Speaker 12: So there's most likely he hemorrhaged, so he lost a

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Speaker 12: could have got his liver, which would obviously would bleed

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Speaker 2: Why would you obviously bleed out if you were struck

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Speaker 12: Well, the liver is just a bloody organ. I mean,

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Speaker 2: They're outside their home with his wife and children in

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Speaker 2: go to Craig Drummond as a veteran trial lawyer. When

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Speaker 2: they need to video what I'm doing. But these children,

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Speaker 2: They also were in fear.

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, Nancy. That is indicative of somebody in fear for

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Speaker 10: And yes, I agree that shows that these children they

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Speaker 2: Chris, were you saying something, Chris mcdona, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Nancy, When we look at that photograph as well, you

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Speaker 6: because if you look at it, she's got her legs bent,

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Speaker 2: And with no provocation, they pull in Craig Drummond to

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Speaker 2: He gets out, he's unarmed. Now, under the law of

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, So she her response, even if she claims self defense,

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Speaker 2: Guys, what more do we know that led up to

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Speaker 2: Take a listen to Rachel Mounea crimeonline dot com.

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Speaker 5: When Nick Davey files for a restraining order against his neighbor,

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Speaker 2: So what happened to that hearing? The court hearing for

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Speaker 4: Has been continued for now. But the thing is she

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Speaker 2: I think she'd better worry about the murder case. That's

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Speaker 7: Listen, Joe Junio thirty six, a real estate agent wants

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Speaker 2: To Karen Starting joining me, TV radio trauma expert and consultant, Karen,

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Speaker 2: I find it highly probative as to her frame of mind.

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Speaker 2: She's the one causing the problems with chickens, too many dogs,

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Speaker 11: Nancy, when you're a narcissist, you are not responsible for

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Speaker 11: So in her mind, without a doubt, they are victimizing her,

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Speaker 2: You know, another thing happened Alexis Teroschuk. Apparently prior to

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Speaker 4: Yes, she was constantly harassing them, confronting them at their home.

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Speaker 4: There was right next to each other, and that's what

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Speaker 4: Arius that did that to you two? And court Nancy?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah she did. She also shot a bird at me.

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Speaker 9: Matt When two feet of snow blankets plains Township, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 2: Over shoveling snow and what about over trimming trees? Take

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Speaker 9: About forty five miles north of Orlando, Florida, forty two

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Speaker 9: you're pointing a gun at me? Are you going to

434
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Speaker 9: shoot me? Druslawski claims Brian Ford then walked towards him,

435
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Speaker 9: so he shot him. Brian Ford dies from his gun

436
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Speaker 9: shot wound.

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Speaker 2: This over trimming trees and what about over a basketball

438
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Speaker 2: that ends up in your neighbor's yard? Listen?

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Speaker 9: A basketball rolls into Robert Singletary's yard in North Carolina,

440
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Speaker 9: and when children retrieve the ball, Singletary yells at the children.

441
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Speaker 9: One of the children tells his father, who went to

442
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Speaker 9: Singletary's house, and tells the twenty four year old to

443
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Speaker 9: stop cussing his kid out. If you've got a problem,

444
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Speaker 9: come to me and we can work it out. Singletary

445
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Speaker 9: goes inside and comes back out with a gun, opens

446
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Speaker 9: fire on the neighbors. A six year old girl sustains

447
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Speaker 9: a wound to her left cheek, her father shot in

448
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 9: the back and her mother grazed in the arm. Singletary

449
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,479
Speaker 9: flees the scene, winds up in Florida, and turns himself

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Speaker 9: into authorities.

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Speaker 2: Over a basketball. Now listen to how this example escalates.

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Speaker 2: Take a listen to Dave mac.

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Speaker 9: Lenny Tracy leans a big old tire against his neighbor's fence.

454
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 9: At first, the tire doesn't bother Tony Davis, but the

455
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Speaker 9: weight of the tire causes the fence to bow in

456
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Speaker 9: and creates an opening that his dogs can now get out.

457
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Speaker 9: He leaves a simple note for his neighbor, asking Lenny

458
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Speaker 9: Tracy to move the tire. Tracy takes a fence at

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Speaker 9: his neighbor's request and sees this as nothing less than

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Speaker 9: an act of war. From that moment on, police are

461
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 9: regularly called for various slights and acts of aggression. Eventually,

462
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Speaker 9: both the Davis's and the Tracys file for restraining orders

463
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Speaker 9: and install outdoor security camera systems. Lenny Tracy adds audio

464
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Speaker 9: speakers pointed at the Davis home, blasting sounds of birds

465
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Speaker 9: all night, floodlights aimed at the Davis's bedroom windows, and finally,

466
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Speaker 9: Lenny Tracy installs an infrared light that would blind the

467
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Speaker 9: security system installed by Tony Davis. Police believe the infrared

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Speaker 9: light was a triggering event.

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Speaker 2: Okay, did you hear that? Audio speakers pointed at the

470
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Speaker 2: neighbors blasting sounds of birds, flood lights aim at their

471
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Speaker 2: bedroom windows, and then finally an infrared light that would

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Speaker 2: blind the neighbor's security system. And of course it didn't

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Speaker 2: end there.

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Speaker 9: Listen, It's nearly three am. When Tony Davis can't sleep.

475
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Speaker 9: He tells his wife Cindy he's going next door to

476
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Speaker 9: ask Lenny Tracy to turn off the infrared lights. Davis's nephew,

477
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Speaker 9: Josh Clinton on snap said the night that my uncle

478
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Speaker 9: Tony actually decided to walk over there. He was just like,

479
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Speaker 9: I give up. I just want this to end. Cindy

480
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Speaker 9: Davis hears two shotgun blasts and runs next door to

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Speaker 9: find her husband Tony, laying on the walkway to the

482
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Speaker 9: Tracy's front door. Lenny Tracy comes out the door and

483
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,959
Speaker 9: threatened Cindy Davis. As she tends to her husband, Tracy

484
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 9: tells her to leave or she'll get the same thing.

485
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 9: Tracy then calls nine one one saying he shot a

486
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Speaker 9: prowler in self defense. Investigation finds nothing to back up

487
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Speaker 9: his story of self defense, and Lenny Tracy is charged

488
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Speaker 9: with murder of Tony Davis. Convicted of first degree murder

489
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Speaker 9: for Tony Davis, an assault with a firearm for threatening

490
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Speaker 9: Cindy Davis. Tracy has sentenced to fifty years to life

491
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Speaker 9: for the murder and fourteen years for the assault on

492
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Speaker 9: Cindy Davis. Terms to be served consecutive.

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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Neighbors neighbors joining me right now from crime online dot

495
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Speaker 2: Com is Sidney Sumner. Sidney, your father had a similar incident.

496
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Speaker 2: What happened? So?

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Speaker 13: I had actually been out with my mom all day.

498
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Speaker 13: I believe we were in a school activity or something.

499
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Speaker 13: When we arrived home, there were two cop cars in

500
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Speaker 13: our driveway and we came to find out that my

501
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 13: dad had been outside doing yard work. It's Houston, everybody

502
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 13: has oak trees, and he was blowing leaves out of

503
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Speaker 13: our driveway into the street to later collect them. Our

504
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 13: neighbor that was Tommy corner to us, witnessed this and

505
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 13: was upset that the leaves were ending up in the

506
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Speaker 13: street and physically came across the street and attacked my father.

507
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Speaker 13: They had a physical altercation and both of the men

508
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 13: separated when the neighbor was hurt. He was actually the

509
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Speaker 13: one who called the police after he was injured, but

510
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 13: neighbor's ring doorbell showed that he was the aggressor in

511
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Speaker 13: the situation, and the cops asked my father if he

512
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 13: wanted to press charges, press charges, and we decided that

513
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Speaker 13: that was not the route we wanted to go.

514
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Speaker 2: That finally happened.

515
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Speaker 13: He was in an ankle brace for several weeks after

516
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 13: injuring himself, and we all just decided to let it go.

517
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Speaker 13: My parents lived there for another five years or so

518
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Speaker 13: before we moved away, and there were just always a

519
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 13: little bit of tension in between them.

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Speaker 2: I guess. So when you have to call the police

521
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: to your front yard, Okay, your dad came out basically unscathed,

522
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: But when you hear cases like the ones we're talking

523
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Speaker 2: about right now, in this case where Pastor Nick is

524
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: gunned down Sydney, do you realize how close your dad

525
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Speaker 2: was to a very very serious injury.

526
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Speaker 13: Yeah, we are very very thankful that nothing escalated past

527
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Speaker 13: that point, it can happen.

528
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Speaker 2: Just don't get it, guys, what more do we know

529
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Speaker 2: about Pastor Nick Davy being gunned down in front of

530
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Speaker 2: his children? Take a listen to the hour cut seven.

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Speaker 8: As Nick Davey asked Junior, what is your problem with us?

532
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 8: Junio opens her car door, takes a shooter stance, and

533
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 8: fires a gun at Pastor Nick Davey. Davy is shot

534
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Speaker 8: in the stomach. Junio turns the weapon on Sarah Davy.

535
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Speaker 8: According to Grace Point, Pastor ty Neil, Sarah goes on

536
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Speaker 8: the offensive and wrestles the gun away. Sarah Davey is

537
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Speaker 8: shot in the thigh. Joe Junio runs into her townhouse

538
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Speaker 8: as nine to one one is called.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm trying to figure something out, Alexis Terreschuk.

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Speaker 2: If all of that was caught on video, then you're

541
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Speaker 2: going to be able to hear the pastor say what's

542
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: your problem with us? That is not aggression, No, not

543
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Speaker 2: at all.

544
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Speaker 4: He was in his car and she pulled her car

545
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Speaker 4: into their driveway and blocked them, and she got out

546
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Speaker 4: of their car. That's when he said, what is your

547
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Speaker 4: problem with us? Like he got out and said, why

548
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 4: are you doing this. We were just here picking up stuff. Lea.

549
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Speaker 4: These are not his words. He said, what is your

550
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Speaker 4: problem with us? But his situation was they were just

551
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Speaker 4: there picking stuff up. They weren't at her house, they

552
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 4: weren't on her property. They certainly weren't throwing dog poop

553
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 4: in her yard or flooding her house or threatening to

554
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Speaker 4: kill her. She did all of that to them. They

555
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,479
Speaker 4: were picking things up from their home because they had

556
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Speaker 4: moved out, because they were so her behavior, her threatening behavior,

557
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 4: was escalating. That's what the That's what Sarah said about it.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm curious. Chris mcdunn adjoining me, director Cold

559
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Speaker 2: Case Foundation, and star off a YouTube channel, The Interview Room. Chris,

560
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Speaker 2: I wonder if the pastor's family had not pressed criminal

561
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Speaker 2: charges before because they wanted to keep the peace.

562
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Speaker 6: It certainly does seem that way, Nancy, And I think

563
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Speaker 6: some of the signals that she was sending they weren't

564
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Speaker 6: quite picking up. Exactly. What I mean by that is,

565
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Speaker 6: you know the fact that she's making, you know, the

566
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Speaker 6: cutthroat type of gestures. I mean that obviously indicates she

567
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Speaker 6: has gone to the next level. And to your point,

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Speaker 6: I think the pastor just took that as you know what,

569
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Speaker 6: let's let's just stay calm as a family, you know,

570
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Speaker 6: and she'll get over this and that. Unfortunately, he escalated

571
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Speaker 6: it to the point where again, you know, she decides

572
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Speaker 6: to violence. Is the resolution for.

573
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Speaker 2: Those of you just joining us. Vegas pastor Nick Davy

574
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Speaker 2: fatally shot in front of his own children, his wife

575
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 2: even taking a gunshot herself. She lived. Now she's left

576
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: to raise the children without their father. Karen Stark, what

577
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 2: were you saying?

578
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Speaker 11: What I was saying was I think that most people

579
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Speaker 11: would not believe in a situation like that, that given

580
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Speaker 11: that signal, that somebody would actually try and kill them.

581
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Speaker 11: Not that he's wrong in saying that it was a threat,

582
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Speaker 11: but you would never think that your neighbor would actually

583
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 11: try and kill you. However, the fact that they had

584
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 11: to move out of their house, it's really hard to

585
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 11: understand why nobody did something about that, Why the police

586
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 11: didn't do anything, or the association didn't do anything, very

587
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 11: very confusing.

588
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 2: Another thing the pastor said, as he got out of

589
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 2: his car, quote, why don't you leave us alone? We've

590
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: had enough? Apparently the pastor shouting this at Junio as

591
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 2: a child is recording what's your problem with us? The

592
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: pastor stated before getting out of his car. This woman,

593
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Speaker 2: even in her mugshot Craig Drummond, a high profile lawyer

594
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Speaker 2: in this jurisdiction, Vegas, Even in her mugshot, she looks

595
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Speaker 2: angry and confrontational.

596
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Speaker 10: Yes, this lady looks like she's obviously rather upset. Obviously

597
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 10: by her actions here. It sounds like she's got an

598
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 10: anger issue. I think as the criminal case proceeds, there

599
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Speaker 10: may be some inquiry into any other mental issues going on.

600
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Speaker 2: Don't start, Drummond, Do not start with me. This is

601
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Speaker 2: a realtor who is functioning writing articles on some Real

602
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 2: to Realty Times website describing her nightmare and neighbor when

603
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 2: she's the one with a nightmare, and here you go

604
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: tuning up about a mental defect? Is that because there's

605
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 2: nowhere else to go? She's caught on video doing it,

606
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 2: so you can't say I didn't do it. She can't

607
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: say I did it. But it was self defense because

608
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Speaker 2: she's armed and he's not. So what's left mental defect?

609
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: Is that? Why you said that?

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Speaker 10: Perhaps the answer you hit the nail on the head.

611
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Speaker 10: It seems like factually with the video evidence.

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Speaker 2: You're screwed, and that ain't Latin. I learned to law

613
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Speaker 2: school either. Man. This is a toughy. I mean, this

614
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Speaker 2: the only place that defense can go, right, Craig.

615
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Speaker 10: Absolutely, It's certainly an area if I was the defense attorney,

616
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Speaker 10: which I'm glad i'm not, it's certainly an area that

617
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 10: I would have to pursue, because again, I would agree,

618
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Speaker 10: she's got a major problem here. The facts before and

619
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Speaker 10: the facts of the event are awful and tragedy.

620
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Speaker 2: You know what, Craig, I bet she could still claim

621
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Speaker 2: self defense. Of course, it's not true by saying that

622
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Speaker 2: she felt threatened, because when he got out of the car,

623
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Speaker 2: she interpreted that, interpreted that to me he was coming

624
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: toward her, of course, and you got to take into

625
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 2: account that she's the one that cut them off, She's

626
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Speaker 2: the one that came to them and parked the car.

627
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Speaker 2: So yeah, self defense is not going to work, You're right, Craig. Johlemen,

628
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Speaker 2: she's gotta have to go with mental defect unless she

629
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Speaker 2: can copy cheap plea. You know, I'm very curious to

630
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Speaker 2: doctor g and Gorniac. When someone is bleeding out from

631
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Speaker 2: a shot to the abdomen, he's lying there on the pavement.

632
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Speaker 2: He knows his wife, He may have seen her get shot,

633
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Speaker 2: his children in the in the car. Is he wondering

634
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Speaker 2: is she going to shoot my children too? How long

635
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Speaker 2: could he have stayed awake before he bled out, Doctor garniac.

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Speaker 12: I would say minutes because usually, like I said, if

637
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 12: it's not something that's going to be you know, instantaneously

638
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 12: lethal like to your herder, to a special portion of

639
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 12: your brain, you're going to be aware. So when you're

640
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 12: bleeding out, first you're going to lose your blood, and

641
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 12: then you're going to your body's going to go into shocks,

642
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 12: and then you're going to pass out. You're still going

643
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 12: to be alive, but you're going to be you know,

644
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 12: unconscious at that that point. So between the time that

645
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 12: he shot and the time that you know, his liver

646
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Speaker 12: or whatever other organs in his appen are bleeding, he's

647
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Speaker 12: still going to be aware until he loses enough blood

648
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Speaker 12: that causes him to pass out. So, unfortunately, he would

649
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 12: have been aware of, or possibly even maybe not have

650
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 12: known exactly that his wife was shot, but he probably

651
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 12: may have been able to see it, or may have

652
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 12: been able to hear screaming or commotion around him before

653
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 12: he went unconscious.

654
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: I'll tell you who else is in trouble, the HOA

655
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 2: Homeowners Association, because the victim in this case had gone

656
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 2: to them to try to resolve these neighbor to neighbor issues,

657
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: the chickens, the dogs, the facing, the flooding. Instead of

658
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: addressing it and fixing it, they rited out the victim's

659
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 2: name to the defendant. According to reports, nothing was done

660
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: and it escalated to the point of alleged murder. Neighbor

661
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: versus neighbor. I'm looking at an earlier shot of this

662
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 2: family outside posing together, the son, the daughter, the wife,

663
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:36,959
Speaker 2: the husband, a pastor. Those days are all gone over.

664
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Speaker 2: This a dispute about chickens. We wait as justice unfolds.

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Speaker 2: Goodbye friend,