WEBVTT - QLS Classic: Boyz II Men Part 1

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, what's up everybody. It's Quest Love and please make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you're up to date on my podcast, The

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<v Speaker 1>Quest Love Show. However, it's Quest Love Supreme for life.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in late twenty twenty, in the thick of the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 1>QLs had my guys one Boys to Men for a

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<v Speaker 1>two part podcast discussion. It's damn near three hours of

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<v Speaker 1>conversation when we get real and all the stories behind

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<v Speaker 1>this incredible record breaking group. So join me fon, tigelow Laiya,

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<v Speaker 1>Unpaid Bill and Sugar Steve for this amazing touchstone interview

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of humor, candor and realness. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>to Nate, Sean and Wanye. Shout out to you, to

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<v Speaker 1>Mike and Mark, You're all boys to Men to me,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys humbled me and also gave one incredible conversation

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<v Speaker 1>at a time when we needed it. So here's part

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<v Speaker 1>one of Boys to Men on Quest Love Supreme. Quest

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<v Speaker 1>Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody else hear you record?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, okay, what his real name?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's what is Mama phone?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that's it? Yes, I am immune.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, well, ladies and gentlemen, what can I

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<v Speaker 1>say Our guest today are the pride of my hometown

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<v Speaker 1>in Philadelphia. They are, in my opinion, and I'm very biased,

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<v Speaker 1>they are simply one of the finest, most talented singing

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<v Speaker 1>groups in history.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>They have made classic records, they have broken records, and

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<v Speaker 1>when those records got broken, they broke records with their

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<v Speaker 1>own records. The three singles three singles single handedly have

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<v Speaker 1>occupied the number one spot for forty three weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>In a row.

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<v Speaker 1>That is no small feet when it's just spread out

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<v Speaker 1>through three singles. Only two other artists in recording history

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<v Speaker 1>have achieved that feat. And know his name isn't Michael Jackson,

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<v Speaker 1>Elvis and the Beatles. You know to be alive to

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<v Speaker 1>watch Beatles fans cry over into the road record breaking

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<v Speaker 1>the Beatles, that was one of the most craziest days

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever seen. We can call them the last true

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<v Speaker 1>R and B group. We can call them the forefathers. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that every any any group of individuals that

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<v Speaker 1>call themselves boys band, they know they owe this group

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<v Speaker 1>everything from and sink to B t s they owe

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<v Speaker 1>them greatly. Please welcome to questl Supreme. Finally, the one

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<v Speaker 1>and only Boys to men.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go, y'all finally because we only got one call.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn wait wait wait wait, is this gonna be.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, hey, hey, you know what's type of we're

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<v Speaker 5>high school like like, yeah, it's gonna be real.

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<v Speaker 1>Had a look on look right now, I'm all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Jill Scott. Episode went somewhere, the music, episode went somewhere, boy, somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>This is this is this isn't really you're gonna get like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we only know one way to talk to

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<v Speaker 3>each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, wait, my first question. People are dying to know

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<v Speaker 1>what the hell did y'all do this sudden impact?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what we did in that wasn't I

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<v Speaker 3>grew up. No, I'll tell you what. I'm pleasing to

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<v Speaker 3>know what we did. We tried to save him after

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Rivers got rid of him. We tried to sign

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<v Speaker 3>the Stone Creek and Philly and took him over the

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<v Speaker 3>time of the toll and he said, oh hell no.

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<v Speaker 3>Then somebody named the Backstreet Boys came out and then

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<v Speaker 3>they disappeared. Wow, what happened? Mother?

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<v Speaker 2>Nathan?

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<v Speaker 6>Everyone than you.

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell it's gonna be a classic interview already.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you guys right now? I assume that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know you guys get tired of asking like when

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<v Speaker 1>people see individually, like where the other group at as

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<v Speaker 1>if you're attached to the hip together right now right,

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<v Speaker 1>because I can never be nowhere without mister you know

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<v Speaker 1>right exactly? So where are you guys right now?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm in l A Wins in Vegas, and Nate's in

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<v Speaker 5>a big old house in Tampa, Florida, sitting batty the big.

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<v Speaker 3>Old house like everybody else. Everybody else is in a

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<v Speaker 3>big old house too. Lake.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all right, I see when when? Okay, based on

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<v Speaker 1>the reality that we're living right now, when's the last

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<v Speaker 1>time that you three were physically in this in the

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<v Speaker 1>room at the same time.

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<v Speaker 5>February.

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<v Speaker 3>I will tell you this, Yeah, March. But I'll tell

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<v Speaker 3>you one even crazier. When we left each other in March.

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<v Speaker 3>By the time we got to May or June, it

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<v Speaker 3>was probably the longest that we've ever been apart from

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<v Speaker 3>each other since high school.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I was going to say. What's has this

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<v Speaker 1>been the biggest break that you guys have had?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, without a doubt, without seeing each other or talk. Yeah, physically, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we went on breaks, but we saw each other. We

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<v Speaker 3>hung out one and Sean, you's living around the corner,

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<v Speaker 3>stuff like that. But like physically being a part for

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<v Speaker 3>this long, it's the longest I missed.

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<v Speaker 1>All of those niggas, So how how does that affect?

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<v Speaker 1>Especially when you've been singing together for so long, for

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<v Speaker 1>so consistent, how does that affect you? Like when I

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<v Speaker 1>hang up, I'm about to We're about to do like

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<v Speaker 1>our first root show in eight months, and I'm actually

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<v Speaker 1>nervous about it because like like we're we're gonna have rehearsal,

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<v Speaker 1>which is I mean, we did it so much that

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<v Speaker 1>the automatic pilot was good, But like, how does it

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<v Speaker 1>when you're not in that rhythm anymore? Like, how does

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<v Speaker 1>that affect?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we don't know, we aint never did it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's never happened before, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 7>But but like you said, you know, groups that have

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<v Speaker 7>been together for this long and you know, working together,

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<v Speaker 7>we we pretty much know our roles, We know what

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<v Speaker 7>roles we play, so you know, I'm pretty sure it's

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<v Speaker 7>more it's it's auto pilot pilot as well. It's just

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<v Speaker 7>you know, getting in the room together and and you know,

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<v Speaker 7>remembering our notes and the steps and all kinds of

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<v Speaker 7>stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the only thing. But for the most part, man,

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is weird. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>It's definitely weird, but you know, we got to make

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<v Speaker 2>the most of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this a welcome break? Most most artists that I

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<v Speaker 1>talk to say like, this is the first real sleep

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<v Speaker 1>I've gotten. This is the first like I mean, monetary issues,

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<v Speaker 1>a side of worry about you know, how your life

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be affected. Like, is is this a

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<v Speaker 1>welcome break or is it just like I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's.

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<v Speaker 2>More individual that that that that question to be answered.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, for me, I think two months that's that's

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<v Speaker 7>a welcome break for me, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 7>But that the two months, I'm ready to see them,

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<v Speaker 7>ready to you know, be where we where we are,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, ready to get back on stage.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ready to see my brothers. I'm ready. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 7>You got to have that that that energy flow of

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<v Speaker 7>people that are like minded around you and and create

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<v Speaker 7>the same way and think the same way musically around you.

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<v Speaker 7>So after two months, I'm like, yo, it's I gotta

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<v Speaker 7>I gotta do it. But you know, it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 7>welcome for about two months for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about everybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're just ANTSI to give back to Yeah whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, yeah, I mean it's it's the same. So

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<v Speaker 5>I think we were all due.

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<v Speaker 8>There's there comes a ceiling that you know, you tour

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<v Speaker 8>after a while, you know you want to say, okay,

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<v Speaker 8>you know what, let's let's let's fall back for a

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<v Speaker 8>second and kind of like, you know, look at our

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<v Speaker 8>houses for a little while and go food shopping and

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<v Speaker 8>do regular normal stuff. Because I think with us that

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<v Speaker 8>that's the balance that's required for all of us. We've

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<v Speaker 8>never really been about and you know what's in there.

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<v Speaker 8>We've never been about all the the you know, the

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<v Speaker 8>spectacle and all the other stuff that just came with

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<v Speaker 8>the job. But for the most part, you would see

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<v Speaker 8>us driving down Saladrie, you know what I'm saying, like,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, in our cars getting some music or you know,

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<v Speaker 8>getting some food or.

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<v Speaker 5>Just hanging out or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just what we like to do, right you know.

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<v Speaker 8>And and the stage is is just another persona that

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<v Speaker 8>when you know, when we're on stage, we go off

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<v Speaker 8>and we do what we need to do. And we

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<v Speaker 8>sing and we jump around and black fools and then

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<v Speaker 8>after that, you know we're back to just being normal.

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<v Speaker 5>Sean, Wynye and Nick you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 8>So you know that that's that's always been the ebb

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<v Speaker 8>and flow and as it should be with most artists,

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<v Speaker 8>like you know, we we require both in order for

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<v Speaker 8>us to feel pole, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know, so so it's it's but yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 5>it's I miss it. I think the guys miss it.

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<v Speaker 8>We missed being out there and performing because, like I said,

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<v Speaker 8>it feels like it's half of us that's kind of

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<v Speaker 8>missing to some degree.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we'd like to be home. We like to chill

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<v Speaker 5>and all this stuff, but you know, we didn't go lout.

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<v Speaker 2>We like to entertain.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what we do.

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<v Speaker 6>One thing I was curious to know.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw y'all.

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<v Speaker 6>Y'all came to Raleigh. Man, this is probably like ten

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<v Speaker 6>plus years ago.

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<v Speaker 9>This is a minute ago, and y'all performed, and you know,

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<v Speaker 9>it was outside and y'all was in suits, and the

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<v Speaker 9>choreography I think y'all were doing like the motown. It

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<v Speaker 9>was cover records, y'all done, and the show was amazing,

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<v Speaker 9>and we all like we loved it. I was curious

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<v Speaker 9>to know how do y'all preserve y'all voices after all

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<v Speaker 9>these years? Man, because y'all still sounded exactly like the

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<v Speaker 9>records twenty plus years later.

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<v Speaker 3>I think part of it is exactly what we were

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<v Speaker 3>saying earlier, is like, we haven't really been away from

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<v Speaker 3>each other just long. I mean, I played the fifth

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<v Speaker 3>on the other topic. But the fact that we've always

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<v Speaker 3>we sang all the time. There hasn't been months that

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<v Speaker 3>have gone by where we haven't sang or we haven't performed.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, it's like a muscle, if you work

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<v Speaker 3>it out all the time, it'll be there for you.

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<v Speaker 3>And because we've never really ever been separated in our

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<v Speaker 3>whole lives, we sing almost every other week or so,

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<v Speaker 3>and I mean definitely in the last five years or so,

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<v Speaker 3>we've been extremely consistent. I mean with Vegas, we I

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<v Speaker 3>mean there's probably not a week that's gone by in

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<v Speaker 3>the last five years that we haven't tang. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>up go it's in consistency.

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<v Speaker 2>What are y'all doing now to make sure it is well?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean we still we still sing, we just don't

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<v Speaker 3>sing together. I mean, I'm sure you know, we know

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<v Speaker 3>each other's personality. So you know, we sing around the house,

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<v Speaker 3>we sing on stuff we create. I mean, we just

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<v Speaker 3>we just sing, and I think we're just It's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>When we first got started our role manager of years ago, Coyelle,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we would sing so much that every every

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<v Speaker 3>time we would sing, he would pull out a cup

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<v Speaker 3>almost as if you know, you guys trying to sing

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<v Speaker 3>for some coins or whatever, because you know, we we

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<v Speaker 3>hadn't quite been successful then, so he was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you got to learn when to tone it down and

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<v Speaker 3>when you know, you just can't sing all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think that's one thing that he never really

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<v Speaker 3>could take out of us, so over time, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just something that we've always done.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, real quick, real quick, what do you mean by

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<v Speaker 2>you pleaded the fifth one the last question? Then I

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<v Speaker 2>need to.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, well see again. The difference for me is that,

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<v Speaker 3>unlike you guys, I fly before we did this. For

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<v Speaker 3>the last five years, I fly almost five thousand miles

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<v Speaker 3>a week for Vegas. So when you talk about needing

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<v Speaker 3>time away, I probably need a lot more than you

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<v Speaker 3>guys do because I just it's just too much for

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<v Speaker 3>me to do. I mean, I'm flying east west, east

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<v Speaker 3>west every single week.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not for that residency you were doing. Come

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<v Speaker 1>to Vegas.

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<v Speaker 3>I live in Florida. I've been flying back and forth

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<v Speaker 3>for the last five years every week.

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<v Speaker 2>And are you still Nate?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you still doing your show as well?

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<v Speaker 3>We see? See the thing is I'm answering. I'm answering

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<v Speaker 3>why's question because I know what he's saying.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, I just need a clarification, because you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I need clarification.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, but that's what I was saying. It's like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's not it's not it's not the group

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<v Speaker 3>per se. It's just when you get it. My grind

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<v Speaker 3>is a little bit different than you guys because you

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<v Speaker 3>guys on the West Coast, you're right there, thirty minutes away.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying. But when you got to

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<v Speaker 3>wake up at four thirty every every Thursday or Friday,

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<v Speaker 3>fly out every week and turn right back around, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's not counting what we do during the week. I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>nigga need a break.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I get it. So that means Nat is James

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<v Speaker 1>Poyser and a mirror. I was like, I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>in Manhattan. I moved to Manhattan. James is like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go further down, further down south to Delaware

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<v Speaker 1>and drive every day for three hours. All right, I

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<v Speaker 1>get it down.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's right about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you about right this This leads to my next question.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know I was. I was immersed in my

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<v Speaker 1>particular culture at Creative and Performing Arts High School.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>For those that don't know, we always.

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<v Speaker 3>Never made it, never made it, never ever made it

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<v Speaker 3>to advisory. Because he sat right next to me, I

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<v Speaker 3>know he wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the thing is, the thing is is that you

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<v Speaker 1>know there's I don't know much about the singing culture

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<v Speaker 1>at Creative and Performing Arts. So my particular experience there

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<v Speaker 1>was all right. First of all, like I had a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a bloods and crips uh environment. The bloods

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<v Speaker 1>were like the jazz heads. In order to get Chris

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<v Speaker 1>and Joey's respect, I just study all this forties jazz

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<v Speaker 1>to let them know I speak their language. And then

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side, Kurt rosewink. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you remember Kurt rose Awekle, but he's like, yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's a massive deal right now in the world of jazz.

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<v Speaker 1>So he would try to force me to unlearn all

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<v Speaker 1>the old ship that christ and Joey wanted me to learn, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'm going behind both their backs and doing

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<v Speaker 1>hip hop with Tarik kind of like whatever gang was

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<v Speaker 1>winning that That's the side I was on. But what

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<v Speaker 1>was what was the culture for vocal majors on the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth floor? Oh I can, I can, I can, and

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<v Speaker 1>like take me through it.

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<v Speaker 5>I could break that down because because honestly, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>in any of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Because when I y'all would break out in song.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, here's the thing. When when when I came in,

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<v Speaker 5>Whydy wasn't in yet. I came in in eighty six,

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<v Speaker 5>and why I came in eighty.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven and there was a freshman okay, and I can't.

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<v Speaker 5>When I came in, you had your clicks, you know

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<v Speaker 5>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>You had your gospel kids, you know the ones that

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<v Speaker 4>just straight up saying gospel all day, every day, her.

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<v Speaker 5>Jesus all day, you know what I'm saying. And then

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<v Speaker 5>you had the cool kids, you know what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 5>That Nate used to hang around.

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<v Speaker 3>No no, no, no, no, no, don't even know that.

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<v Speaker 10>No no no no no no no, I don't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>If you don't do it, be right, be right, hang over,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll not be right. I did not hang around them.

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<v Speaker 3>They hung around me. Let's get it right, let's not

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<v Speaker 3>even you know, no, no, I need that, I need

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<v Speaker 3>we got to clear it up.

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<v Speaker 8>They hung around me because most of them was from

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<v Speaker 8>North Philly, and thank you so Kapa was in South Philly.

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<v Speaker 8>And you know every day after the Columbo kids will

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<v Speaker 8>come outside and try to beat our asses every day

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<v Speaker 8>because we could sing and dance right, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 8>have that bro A lot of those A lot of

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<v Speaker 8>those dudes hung around Nate, as he says it, because

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<v Speaker 8>you know that that was the cool kids.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my neighborhood. So they don't want to get their assa.

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<v Speaker 1>How real? How real was the pulump because again I

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<v Speaker 1>was so when you're in that basement, you could hide

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<v Speaker 1>all day and nobody would miss you until so I

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<v Speaker 1>was separated from all that ship because we just stay

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<v Speaker 1>in the basement. How real was that Polympic?

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<v Speaker 5>Bottom line is one of my friends got is those

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<v Speaker 5>broken by the little kids.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, here, here, here.

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<v Speaker 1>Those let's plumb all right. Let me girls, plumbo, let me,

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<v Speaker 1>let me, let me, let me explain to you. I

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<v Speaker 1>got you, okay, okay, help little kids.

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<v Speaker 3>They're big brothers were from the project, so they lived

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<v Speaker 3>in my neighborhood. I went to the school because I

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<v Speaker 3>was local. Most of the other guys went to the

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<v Speaker 3>school because they were from Northeastern the It was a

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<v Speaker 3>magnet school. So when they came down, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>they little you know, so called Gucci shoes and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 3>My my neighborhood guys wasn't happy about that. And then

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<v Speaker 3>they would be in the school and they would mess

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<v Speaker 3>with the little Columbian kids and they go tell their

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<v Speaker 3>big brothers. And by the end of the day, the

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<v Speaker 3>big brothers be waiting outside and I'm the only one

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<v Speaker 3>that can walk outside, and I have a problem. So

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<v Speaker 3>they hung around me.

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<v Speaker 1>They was they was like based kids, no.

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<v Speaker 3>Money, yeah, because they had to be split high school

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<v Speaker 3>that would share them.

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<v Speaker 5>It was their bigger brothers that I got you. So

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<v Speaker 5>it wasn't the actual.

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<v Speaker 2>But they was causing the issue though.

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<v Speaker 3>Well what it was was the school was it was

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<v Speaker 3>a big high school. One of those older schools, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's a neighborhood with no money. So they

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<v Speaker 3>split our high school at the same building with lower

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<v Speaker 3>grade kids that were like seventh and eighth grade, so

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<v Speaker 3>they were on one side of the building. We won

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<v Speaker 3>the other side. Those upper crusty so called Kappa choir

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<v Speaker 3>people that like to you know, mess with little broke

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<v Speaker 3>kids would call them up all kinds of names. They

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<v Speaker 3>go home and tell their family and then they'd have

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<v Speaker 3>to deal with it after school.

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<v Speaker 7>But you know that, you know what, it wasn't always

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<v Speaker 7>them calling them names and stuff. It was the fact

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<v Speaker 7>that we were if that that the the you know,

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<v Speaker 7>artists are eccentric, you know what I'm saying. So we

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<v Speaker 7>walk different, we talk different, we act different.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 7>And I'm not gonna I'm not going to front. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>of course there was some interaction. I'm sure the interaction

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<v Speaker 7>escalated it to be what it became. But the thought

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<v Speaker 7>process behind it is there was a lot of fucking

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<v Speaker 7>kids in that school and the fact that we all

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<v Speaker 7>had to interact at some point in time, whether it

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<v Speaker 7>was crossing the hallways, I'm sure there was a little

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<v Speaker 7>bit of eyeing and things like that. But when you

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<v Speaker 7>left the school, you're not thinking that what happened in

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<v Speaker 7>school is going to check.

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<v Speaker 3>You're thinking that.

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<v Speaker 7>So when you walk outside and you see all these

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<v Speaker 7>dudes standing on the wall, like did he go right there?

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<v Speaker 2>Or did it go? It didn't even have to be

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<v Speaker 2>that person.

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<v Speaker 7>It's just they wanted to make sure that they made

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<v Speaker 7>themselves known and seen that this is their neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>And y'all gonna have to run if y'all come out here.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyway, I digress, I digress back to the to the

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<v Speaker 5>vocal coachure.

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<v Speaker 1>So you had the so called this is my favorite episode.

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<v Speaker 3>I just said the same.

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<v Speaker 8>You had the so called cool kids right that all

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<v Speaker 8>hung out with me, and then you had the geeks, right,

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<v Speaker 8>the nerds, right, spazoids, the.

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<v Speaker 5>Horrible You weren't a weep, No I was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was pulling George though I.

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<v Speaker 10>Was pulling when he got in the group. Always no, no, no, no, Let.

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<v Speaker 5>Me let me explain.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I got nothing.

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<v Speaker 8>That was very true, which is one of the reasons why,

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<v Speaker 8>one of the reasons why I had somewhat of an

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<v Speaker 8>issue because listen, I was the same nigga when I

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<v Speaker 8>went into school right right, I could sing the same

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<v Speaker 8>I hung around the same people even when I was

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<v Speaker 8>in the group, the whole nine yards then the group

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<v Speaker 8>you know that show of Eyuary fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>And one, y'all cheat with the Sparkles, Yeah, okay with

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<v Speaker 1>the cheat.

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<v Speaker 8>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>Y'all had the whole house business. O.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, listen, you didn't kill that ship for they sparkles

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<v Speaker 3>in the hand and like something. If you and boys

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<v Speaker 3>to man, you going all the way.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the only way we know how to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Yeah, to bring our people up to date.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a Valentine's Day performance in school, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>this is the moment where you felt like, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Your instrument was just gonna do it now, Sparkles.

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<v Speaker 5>Because I lied, he ran it too, the Sparkles.

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<v Speaker 3>I lied to you. Not niggas got beat by Sparkles.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but I'm dead serious. When y'all walked on stage,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, ship, They're like a real group.

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<v Speaker 1>Like this isn't unique attraction anymore. This is this is

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<v Speaker 1>like a real group. And the thing was, girls were

0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:48.480
<v Speaker 1>screaming in the audience like it was Ed Sullivan on

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<v Speaker 1>the Beatles. Absolutely and I was like, yo, but dude,

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<v Speaker 1>like I just said that, he still might owe me

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five cents, like this is still them. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>a real group. But for that, for that ten minute performance, y'all,

0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:09.480
<v Speaker 1>y'all transformed into like it was like the Jackson's came

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<v Speaker 1>to school and ship And I was like, wow, let me.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell you, dude, Honestly, we didn't really realize it until that.

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<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was one of those things where I think the

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<v Speaker 3>same way you felt it at that moment, it's the

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<v Speaker 3>same way we felt it. And we literally had no

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<v Speaker 3>idea what the hell was happening?

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<v Speaker 2>None that none.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that was a transformative moment.

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<v Speaker 7>It's crazy you bring that up, because, like Sean said,

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<v Speaker 7>it was girls that you know. I'm pretty sure we

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<v Speaker 7>all tried to like, you know, send my holler at

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<v Speaker 7>during the year, you know what I mean, and they

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<v Speaker 7>basically gave us no attention whatsoever. Bro, when we were

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<v Speaker 7>when because you remember, the principal came.

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<v Speaker 2>And stopped it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, he was gonna stop it because right because it

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<v Speaker 1>was so crowd.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like, this is not a concert, this is not

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<v Speaker 2>you remember that.

0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:07.960
<v Speaker 5>In our poses looking stupid as ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like, that's really weird. I'm the only one that

0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:16.479
<v Speaker 1>remembered this moment. I was like, I wasn't even want

0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:18.000
<v Speaker 1>to bringing up I'm like, I don't remember that.

0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:20.760
<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you when we talked. We used to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about it on the tour bus all the time, dude,

0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:26.360
<v Speaker 3>like Wan said, and Sean said, nobody wouldn't talk to us, dude.

0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:29.800
<v Speaker 3>We we all had our own little clicks. But when

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<v Speaker 3>we were doing boys to men stuff, because everybody in

0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:34.359
<v Speaker 3>the group in the school could sing, you know, a

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:36.159
<v Speaker 3>male could see like everybody could sing. It was just

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<v Speaker 3>like okay, well everybody could sing. But it wasn't just

0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:42.199
<v Speaker 3>in the school. It was after school, when we stayed

0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:44.840
<v Speaker 3>there until ten o'clock at night, or when we went

0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Speaker 3>down the subway at ten o'clock at night. It was

0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:49.719
<v Speaker 3>all that stuff that that put us a little bit

0:23:49.760 --> 0:23:52.679
<v Speaker 3>ahead of everybody else and it became normal for us.

0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:54.920
<v Speaker 3>That's just the way we're supposed to do it.

0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we didn't stop at three o'clock.

0:23:56.880 --> 0:23:59.960
<v Speaker 7>And it was just crazy because those girls man after

0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:04.520
<v Speaker 7>that performance, the same girls I remember them, Cadijia, she.

0:24:10.320 --> 0:24:13.639
<v Speaker 2>Sat right next to me right after the after the

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:14.480
<v Speaker 2>class and.

0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:17.080
<v Speaker 5>She was like well he didn't give me a rose,

0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:19.520
<v Speaker 5>and I was like, that's.

0:24:19.320 --> 0:24:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Why you didn't give me a number.

0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:24.720
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna make it.

0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:31.680
<v Speaker 8>You know how important it was like you know, bag

0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:34.720
<v Speaker 8>of upper class and I was like in this everywhere

0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:38.800
<v Speaker 8>eh grade and I had life classmen for a girlfriend,

0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:43.120
<v Speaker 8>like a straight singor like right like weeks after the show,

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 8>like I had a baddie.

0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:48.159
<v Speaker 6>I'll went from virgens to not.

0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna tell you what's crazy though, when you look

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:53.359
<v Speaker 3>at and you look at the whole musical landscape to

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:55.879
<v Speaker 3>the school at that time, it's like, you know, we

0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:58.200
<v Speaker 3>used to try to do new audition stuff like that

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:00.920
<v Speaker 3>and sound modern and that was kind of our niche.

0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:04.359
<v Speaker 3>But like you guys and stuff was interesting to us

0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:08.200
<v Speaker 3>because it was like our we knew our parents would

0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:12.400
<v Speaker 3>hear y'all do y'all jazz stuff and be like, we'd

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:15.960
<v Speaker 3>be like, that's my friend, Like he's not playing on

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 3>old stuff like and it's it's you could you knew

0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 3>the vibe because it was like if older people fell

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:24.240
<v Speaker 3>in love with you guys and stuff, it was fire.

0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:27.639
<v Speaker 3>Not that young people didn't, but we couldn't mentally soak

0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:30.280
<v Speaker 3>in all that deep jazz stuff y'all had going on.

0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:33.560
<v Speaker 3>So we would just watch and watch older people just

0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:37.159
<v Speaker 3>lose their mind, like these guys are so deep in

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:40.120
<v Speaker 3>there and they're you know, they're you know, so rich,

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:43.400
<v Speaker 3>and we be like, we can't even read have the music,

0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:45.520
<v Speaker 3>the stuff that they playing. It's like it was, it

0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:48.919
<v Speaker 3>was interesting. It was you guys were more cultured than

0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:53.000
<v Speaker 3>we could ever get at that age in our life musically.

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:55.680
<v Speaker 8>And let me tell you, let me tell you, man,

0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 8>like even now like we will we would tell people

0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:02.720
<v Speaker 8>in interviews that those four years with probably some of

0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:08.160
<v Speaker 8>the best years arguably in that school, because so much

0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 8>talent came out of those four years that it.

0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:13.840
<v Speaker 5>Was it was something going on.

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:16.720
<v Speaker 11>Can you talk about it real quick, Sean, because this

0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:18.920
<v Speaker 11>is common knowledge to y'all, but to the rest of

0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:21.480
<v Speaker 11>the world, people don't know what came out of Kappa Like.

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:27.080
<v Speaker 5>It was Tarika and our Mirror, it was a Melo rule,

0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:29.320
<v Speaker 5>it was Chris Christian.

0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:36.560
<v Speaker 8>Like, there was so many established now established still touring

0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:40.880
<v Speaker 8>the world, making money, you know, winning awards, the whole

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:44.000
<v Speaker 8>nine yards that happened in that four years, and we

0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:46.480
<v Speaker 8>all went to the Stady School to god.

0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so I came to Kappa. You came in eleventh

0:26:57.080 --> 0:26:57.680
<v Speaker 1>grade as well.

0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:00.360
<v Speaker 3>No, but the year you came in, I was already

0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:01.919
<v Speaker 3>I was already there, right.

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:06.320
<v Speaker 1>So the thing was is that the first incarnation of

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 1>the group was unique attraction. How did that dissolve and

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 1>how did it morph into boys them?

0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:16.400
<v Speaker 3>In the first incarnation was in eighty five?

0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:18.879
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, that was me.

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:20.880
<v Speaker 3>That was none of the guys that you know other

0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:24.399
<v Speaker 3>than me. So not even Mark Nelson, not even Mark Nelson,

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:28.159
<v Speaker 3>no matter of fact, yeah Mark, No, not even Mark Nelson.

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Mark was right after that we had one guy kick out.

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 3>So right on the end of that was guys you

0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 3>don't know other than Mark. And as people would graduate

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 3>school and lead a group or quit the group, or

0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 3>they girl pull them out, you know, all the great stuff,

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:44.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, I would just put you know, other people

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:49.040
<v Speaker 3>back in the group. Now. It's funny because one was

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 3>actually picked before anybody else before he actually got into

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 3>school because I watched him auditioned the year before and

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 3>I knew somebody was leaving. So I was like, all right,

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:01.159
<v Speaker 3>well he leaving, I'm get that little negga. So as

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:02.919
<v Speaker 3>he get in there, he just don't really know how

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:06.440
<v Speaker 3>his thing is going down. So then you know, Wan

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 3>was at it when we had you know, me Win

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 3>and it was a girl and two other guys and

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 3>then Sean. Actually again, like Sean said, he kind of

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 3>had his own little nerdy click. We didn't really know

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 3>how well he could sing. We knew he could sing.

0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 3>He's in the choir because he you know, at school,

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:24.680
<v Speaker 3>don't pick nobody. But he had a solo one year

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, I need him. So the next

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:31.240
<v Speaker 3>year somebody else left put him in, and then it

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:33.680
<v Speaker 3>was me and him, Wan and Mark and it was

0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 3>just us. Mike just snuck in by a mistake. It

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 3>wasn't like we really hand picked the guy. He was.

0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 3>We were singing the bathroom rehearsing. Mike walked past us

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 3>while we were rehearsing, and he went to the bathroom

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 3>taking pits, and while we were singing, he sang along

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:50.480
<v Speaker 3>with what we were singing. You know, Mike boys, you know,

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:55.760
<v Speaker 3>so it filled up the bathroom. Yeah, so it was like, uh,

0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 3>all right, well, you know, let's let's see how he

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:01.640
<v Speaker 3>works in here. And then that that was that was

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:06.200
<v Speaker 3>what you know, and that all came together around eighty eight, right,

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:08.440
<v Speaker 3>sean yes eighty eight.

0:29:08.600 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So okay for those that don't know what actually

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I know the legend of the Civic

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Center story, but how exactly did you finagle your way

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 1>backstage to.

0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 11>VIV?

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Was it a new edition performance? Like what was the

0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 1>actual story that?

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:34.960
<v Speaker 5>Okay, it was it was it was the powerhouse that

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 5>year and uh that was the year that uh Bell

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 5>BIV Duvaux was actually being announced like they Mike and

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 5>Rick and Ron went to Philly to make an announcement

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 5>that they were going to be a singing group together.

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 5>But the thing was was.

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:59.120
<v Speaker 8>Obviously Charlie knew knew Nate Charlie, and Charlie was like, Yo,

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 8>I'm gonna have I'm gonna have you let y'all. You

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 8>know hear y'all sing, you know what I'm saying. And

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:07.480
<v Speaker 8>he was like, all right, cool. So we're sitting out

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 8>you know, front, waiting to show up or whatever. He

0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 8>never showed, but we knew. Uh we ran into Teddy

0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 8>Pendergrass's daughter. Yeah, okay, the Pendergrads, right, So she was

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 8>and she was like, Yo, I'm gonna get y'all in.

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 3>So we got.

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 5>That's another story.

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 3>So so so.

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 5>Yo, so so so we okay, so we did with

0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 5>you right, right, so we got it.

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 8>And and so we're waiting around the backstage area, right

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 8>so I don't know, and then you can help me out.

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 5>Who was the first person to kind of started talking

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 5>to her whatever?

0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 3>And she was there, say her dad. So she had

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 3>a friend with her and they had one extra pass.

0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 3>I guess it was somebody else was waiting for it.

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 3>So Mark kind of enabled to pass from him and

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 3>he went backstage and they were kicking or whatever, and

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 3>then he borrowed one of theirs and came back out

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:14.360
<v Speaker 3>gave it to uh one of the guys. Then we

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:16.840
<v Speaker 3>kind of switching the pass back and forth till everybody

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 3>got back there. And by the time we got back there,

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 3>Rick and Ron and them was coming off stage because

0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 3>they was actually hosting the show, so they was coming

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 3>off stage from introducing the group. And when they came

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 3>off stage, he was like, yo, we have Ricky first,

0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 3>Like yo, dude, we got you know, can we sing

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 3>for you? And he was like, you know, y'all got

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 3>a tape, you know, tape back then, y'all got a

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 3>tape And we was like, no, we ain't gonna tape.

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 3>We could just sing it right now. He's like, well,

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 3>you know, y'all got to send us a tape. And

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 3>then Ron was like, yeah, well, you know y'all for

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 3>sending He writing an address and I was like, man,

0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 3>fuck that, so asked. Mike was like, yo, dude, can

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:49.520
<v Speaker 3>we sing for you? Mike was like right now. We

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:52.240
<v Speaker 3>was like yeah, he said all right, cool, and we

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 3>just rocked in the uh freaking uh what was it?

0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 3>I can't remember, yeah, can stand the ring and everybody

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 3>was standing around watch and by the time we finished,

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 3>Charlie showed up.

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 7>And it was talking wow, what Look Keith Sweat was

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 7>there when we finished, surrounding us with Keith Sweat, Paul

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:12.800
<v Speaker 7>Abdul Charrell.

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 3>All like Will Smith, Yeah, yeah, No.

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 8>Will came in after after finished singing Will we were

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 8>finished singing. Will came in with a heather jumpsuit yup

0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 8>and and Harry Bone that said fresh Prince and with

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 8>y'all and then that's yeah.

0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 3>What's funny is after we finished, Rick was like, well,

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:37.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, y'all still got to send us a tape.

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 3>Mike was like, no, y'all, niggas ain't gonta send me

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 3>nothing here. I'm gonna be here this time, right, No, no, no, no, no,

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:45.320
<v Speaker 3>call me in about a week and a half and

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:45.720
<v Speaker 3>that was it.

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Wow, just to hear that story, it's almost like creative

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Russian Roulette, because if it's five minutes, if it's had

0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Charlie mac showed up in time, it would have been

0:32:57.560 --> 0:33:02.520
<v Speaker 1>a whole different trajectory need anybody standing backstage could have

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:05.440
<v Speaker 1>had it could have been a different result.

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 3>That's learned at that moment not to be late. We

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 3>learned not to depend on Charlie Mack.

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 5>You know, I had the same conversation with chear and

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 5>he denies this whole story.

0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:28.240
<v Speaker 3>Of course he did, of course that this is no no, no,

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 3>no no. And first of all, Sean, you know what's

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 3>funny is that a man checked this out. We not

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 3>only did we have to get backstage, we didn't even

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 3>have tickets to get in. I can't even remember how

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 3>we snuck in the building in itself.

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:47.239
<v Speaker 11>Right, it's quite a few people's story for Powerhouse, though,

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 11>you know, is own legacy in that way.

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:53.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you know what, honestly, we started to realize

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 3>that everybody was sneaking in the Powerhouse after that after

0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 3>we told the story, everybody sneaking.

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh dude, I hate y'all for this story simply because

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 1>then suddenly comes the onslaught of YO can spend quick

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 1>because he hears the story. And then they're like.

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 3>And just having funny if they do it for us too,

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 3>and now we'll be like, yeah, is there somebody is?

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:28.959
<v Speaker 1>Is there someone established right now that has the story

0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:31.239
<v Speaker 1>for y'all? Like I came to y'all first, and y'all

0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:34.719
<v Speaker 1>didn't hear a lot of people people who ntablished now.

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 7>Who'll music came to us when we were at the

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:40.279
<v Speaker 7>Vibe video shoot.

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 3>Too, and I didn't even know. I didn't even stink.

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 2>Yep, he's one. It's it's a couple of them, Bro,

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:51.479
<v Speaker 2>I don't music.

0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 5>Wow, he.

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 3>Got I gave us, gave us a CD or something

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 3>was on the bush, a.

0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Lot of the whole lot of records.

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 11>Bro.

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I had a kN I could have he would

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:13.640
<v Speaker 2>have he was writing music for us. It would like crazy,

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:16.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh that would have been yeah a voice.

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 3>Man. Wow, it happens, Man, it happens.

0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:27.399
<v Speaker 1>It happens. So all right, when the whatever whatever data,

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 1>whatever day that stands in your mind for for officially

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 1>arriving right, What lesson would you tell yourself back then

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:44.239
<v Speaker 1>that you wish you knew? As as a precautionary tale.

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm only asking this because I tell people I told

0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 1>someone like I think last episode, I said, I spent

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:56.320
<v Speaker 1>my entire events in three weeks not knowing that that

0:35:56.480 --> 0:36:00.880
<v Speaker 1>was it records, right, I blew my whole advance on

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:04.879
<v Speaker 1>like four stopping stopping spreeze, and that was it. One lesson?

0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:08.120
<v Speaker 1>Did you did you wish you knew then the first

0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:12.360
<v Speaker 1>time you got put on like that first year, it's

0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 1>it's yeah, well, okay, Oh my god, am I dj vlad?

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:18.279
<v Speaker 2>Now?

0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:23.400
<v Speaker 5>I thought I knew you're absolutely not you're in the culture.

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:26.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I thought I had lad, you.

0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:27.480
<v Speaker 5>Are not dead.

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 3>I thought I had my business and order. I thought

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 3>when my group signed a fifty to fifty publishing deal

0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:38.359
<v Speaker 3>with Mike Members that it was a fifty fifty publishing deal,

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 3>and without me going too deep into it, it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you wish you would have fought for that.

0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:49.400
<v Speaker 3>I wish. I wish y'all would have known a little

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:55.000
<v Speaker 3>bit more at that moment. Then I knew four months

0:36:55.080 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 3>after that because it didn't take much longer to figure

0:36:57.000 --> 0:36:58.400
<v Speaker 3>it out, but it was. It was. It was a

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:01.919
<v Speaker 3>life changing this decision that if it was made early

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:05.919
<v Speaker 3>for all of us at that point, yeah, four months,

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:09.320
<v Speaker 3>five six years later, things would have been a lot different.

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, Uh, Well to ask, was it was the

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:16.239
<v Speaker 1>parting with Viv amicable?

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:21.359
<v Speaker 3>It was not at first. I mean to this day,

0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:24.480
<v Speaker 3>are you fine now? I think we're better now, But

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:27.200
<v Speaker 3>at that time it was not amicable at all. No,

0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 3>it was.

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 7>Actually The funny thing is is he was literally forced

0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 7>to part with us, that's right, you know what I mean,

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:37.759
<v Speaker 7>because it was it was between Boys Too Men and

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:40.480
<v Speaker 7>Big ten Records, you know what I mean. And we

0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:43.120
<v Speaker 7>were both involved with Motown Records at the time, so

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 7>you know, he had to make a choice because they

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:48.359
<v Speaker 7>said it was a conflict of interests and he chose

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:49.360
<v Speaker 7>BIV ten Records.

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, taking away from the fact that he had that

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:55.920
<v Speaker 2>he had publishing and.

0:37:57.600 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 3>Writers.

0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:00.759
<v Speaker 1>Was was Gerald Buzzby a part of that?

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 5>How it was a difficult part of it at the

0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 5>time that we split.

0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:11.400
<v Speaker 8>It was during the time was going through a major

0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:16.160
<v Speaker 8>transition of being sold to a larger record.

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:18.359
<v Speaker 5>Late and we were a key piece.

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 8>We were Yeah, and we let we basically let him

0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:25.520
<v Speaker 8>know we were at that time, we were about nine

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:28.000
<v Speaker 8>million records in or eighty something like that.

0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 5>Whatever, It was a lot, and.

0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:34.399
<v Speaker 8>You know, we saw all of the you know, bad

0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:37.040
<v Speaker 8>deals surrounding us, and we were like yo, in order

0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:40.080
<v Speaker 8>for us to kind of continue and make records, you know,

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:43.799
<v Speaker 8>we basically very kindly said, well, you got to fix

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 8>this deal or else we're.

0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:46.040
<v Speaker 5>Not making any more records.

0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:50.760
<v Speaker 8>So, in you know, trying to fix the whole situation,

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 8>Jerald presented bid with the big ten deal, Bid ten

0:38:56.160 --> 0:38:57.520
<v Speaker 8>records because we were signed up.

0:38:57.600 --> 0:39:03.080
<v Speaker 3>Actually actually that deal was that Yeah, that deal was

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:07.920
<v Speaker 3>predicated on Mike finding three artists, which he did before

0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:10.080
<v Speaker 3>we even met Mike. It was set up for him

0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:12.440
<v Speaker 3>to find artists and then if his artist were successful,

0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:15.239
<v Speaker 3>he would roll over into that record label, which the

0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:18.600
<v Speaker 3>artist was us another bad creation, and at that time

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:22.080
<v Speaker 3>mc brains he had three successful artists. But because we

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 3>were on the back end of that, like Sean said,

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 3>we you know, our numbers weren't right for us. Gerald

0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:30.000
<v Speaker 3>pretty much said, listen, I got this deal with you,

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 3>but you can't be in these guys pockets too. You

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 3>got to figure something out because these guys are holding

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:38.400
<v Speaker 3>up my company now, so if they don't make a record,

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:41.919
<v Speaker 3>I got a problem with you. So he jammed him up, saying, listen,

0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:44.239
<v Speaker 3>you can take one of the other. You take this

0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:46.440
<v Speaker 3>big ten, big ten deal and roll and rock with that,

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 3>or you can rock with them. And he knew we

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:53.200
<v Speaker 3>weren't really happy because early on, you know, we figured

0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:54.839
<v Speaker 3>this thing, like I said it was, it wasn't too far.

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 3>We figured this thing out about two and a half

0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 3>million records. I'm like, this money ain't right, so we

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 3>roll hold it out fourteen million records, knowing that it

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:05.200
<v Speaker 3>was wrong. So by the time we got there, he

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:07.480
<v Speaker 3>chose to go with Big of ten because he he

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:10.080
<v Speaker 3>produced his three records that the artists that was supposed

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:12.920
<v Speaker 3>to be you know, were successful, and then we ventured off.

0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:16.719
<v Speaker 3>So Gerald made that split happen. Otherwise Mike would still

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 3>be a part of Boys to Men in some kind

0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 3>of way, right now, Wow, damn sure.

0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:26.560
<v Speaker 1>So I guess the boy fruit Punch didn't deliver too much.

0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:31.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he didn't get out much.

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:33.399
<v Speaker 2>Didn't get out much.

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:39.759
<v Speaker 1>All right, So who what's the what's the uh? I

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:43.960
<v Speaker 1>guess the the process of deciding what the creative vision

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:46.880
<v Speaker 1>is at least for your records. Like, Okay, you got

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:48.880
<v Speaker 1>a record deal and I know that you know the

0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 1>characters and in Dallas, uh collaborate with you guys, but

0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 1>who decides, Like who says that, okay, let's start off

0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:01.520
<v Speaker 1>with I'd never besides the SOS band, I don't know

0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:05.560
<v Speaker 1>many groups that have thrived starting their album off with

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:06.320
<v Speaker 1>three ballots.

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:09.720
<v Speaker 6>That's the listen heard. I was like, wait a minute, may.

0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Please don't go boy right exactly? So well, you know what,

0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:16.719
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't who's navigating.

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:20.320
<v Speaker 3>We didn't have any records. They didn't know what to

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:22.239
<v Speaker 3>do with us. They signed the R and B group

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:25.360
<v Speaker 3>that could sing and they loved it. But once we

0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:28.240
<v Speaker 3>made they once we got signed, they didn't have any songs.

0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:30.719
<v Speaker 3>So like you know, all the songs that is on

0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:32.400
<v Speaker 3>the first album, if you look at we wrote all

0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:34.720
<v Speaker 3>those and performing arts, we wrote those in those hallways

0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Speaker 3>and those.

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Before we even had a deal.

0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:40.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, before we had a deal. We had those songs

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:43.120
<v Speaker 3>done and they were like, Dallas, we're gonna put you

0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:46.000
<v Speaker 3>with this group. What songs you got? Dallas had Motown

0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:48.960
<v Speaker 3>Philly sitting around from the Joyce Herby days, but other

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:51.000
<v Speaker 3>than that, Dallas Austen had no more records, so we

0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 3>was like, oh well we got you know, we do

0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:54.680
<v Speaker 3>it so hard to say about it the extra day

0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:56.400
<v Speaker 3>it's a cover. You know, we wrote please Don't Go

0:41:56.520 --> 0:41:59.840
<v Speaker 3>and only hard this morning, like we wrote all So

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:01.560
<v Speaker 3>we just start recording them.

0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:05.879
<v Speaker 7>Dallas put the production, he produced the record. We sung

0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 7>it to him and he sat there and figured it

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:11.040
<v Speaker 7>all out and produced the record. And you know, those

0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:13.400
<v Speaker 7>songs that you actually hear were already pre written.

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:15.759
<v Speaker 3>And as far as the ballots is concerned, you gotta

0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:18.080
<v Speaker 3>people tend to forget that Motown Philly was the first single.

0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:21.799
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't a ballot, right, Okay, No, I just meant

0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:24.720
<v Speaker 1>in terms of the record and who was the alpha

0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:28.320
<v Speaker 1>that decides, Okay, this is this is the title of

0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:29.840
<v Speaker 1>the album. This is going to be like.

0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:34.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that was big and I think you know him

0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 5>talking to us, he kind of understood our strengths and

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:42.280
<v Speaker 5>in the albums, specifically this this specific album.

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:46.280
<v Speaker 8>Uli high Harmony and the ballads had such a presence

0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:50.719
<v Speaker 8>that we all agreed that, you know, the the Adagio

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 8>side was the best side.

0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:59.880
<v Speaker 3>You know, the performing we stole, right, So we went

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 3>We wanted that just as.

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 8>Much because those hit different with us, you know what

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:06.440
<v Speaker 8>I'm saying, And it hit different with our friends. We

0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:08.319
<v Speaker 8>would bring friends over and stuff like that. I mean,

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:11.160
<v Speaker 8>they loved the ups, but the ballads just kind of

0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:14.360
<v Speaker 8>that kind of made it real fuss.

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:16.040
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I went through that list kind of fast.

0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:17.000
<v Speaker 5>I'm just curious.

0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:18.960
<v Speaker 11>Those songs that you said that you wrote in high

0:43:18.960 --> 0:43:21.839
<v Speaker 11>school were what and then how did that division? I'm

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:23.840
<v Speaker 11>so curious the songwriting process of the division.

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:27.960
<v Speaker 8>Nate wrote Please Don't Go and Lonely Heart in School.

0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:32.279
<v Speaker 8>Right as we were going along with the process of

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:35.800
<v Speaker 8>doing the record, you know, we started coming up with ideas.

0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:38.439
<v Speaker 8>Uh Winya and Nate wrote, uh.

0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Well no me and you.

0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:42.160
<v Speaker 2>We wrote this is my Heart in school with my

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:43.000
<v Speaker 2>heart me.

0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:45.400
<v Speaker 12>And well, yeah, I wrote, I wrote my part on

0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 12>the train on the l that's right. And then I

0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:54.000
<v Speaker 12>came and Wine wrote his you know the love and time.

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Like he he you know what I mean?

0:43:56.760 --> 0:43:59.480
<v Speaker 5>And and he wrote that in the studio.

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:01.320
<v Speaker 3>And wrote Moto Philly.

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:07.160
<v Speaker 7>We wrote we wrote that in mister Walker's room, bro,

0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:10.920
<v Speaker 7>I promise you which one holding?

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:12.200
<v Speaker 3>Yes? I think I remember that.

0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:19.680
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, mister Walker, you know which just to reiterate what

0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:22.400
<v Speaker 11>y'all said earlier for the novices of people who just listening.

0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:24.759
<v Speaker 11>Y'all wrote these songs in high school, and yet and

0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:26.839
<v Speaker 11>still you only got fifty of these songs.

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:30.719
<v Speaker 3>And that's when that's when you look at like me

0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:33.680
<v Speaker 3>and Sean sitting in my backyard right Motown Philly. You

0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 3>know when I mean again, I give viv All the

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:39.080
<v Speaker 3>credit for, you know, a lot of the creative stuff.

0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:42.760
<v Speaker 3>You know, the idea of creating a song called Motown Philly,

0:44:42.840 --> 0:44:46.320
<v Speaker 3>the idea of coming up with a song called titles

0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:49.520
<v Speaker 3>and concepts are great, but none of that. That song

0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:53.560
<v Speaker 3>rattled you to having my song, and that's where things

0:44:53.600 --> 0:44:56.000
<v Speaker 3>started to go left. And we, you know, we looked

0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:57.840
<v Speaker 3>up to him a lot. So our thing was you know,

0:44:58.480 --> 0:45:00.520
<v Speaker 3>that's our guy. You know what I'm saying. It's cool,

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:04.000
<v Speaker 3>we understand. But once we start to realize money is

0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:08.560
<v Speaker 3>coming through and we're still in South Philly, something's gotta change.

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:10.120
<v Speaker 3>But I don't want to get back on the negative.

0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:11.840
<v Speaker 3>I'mna stay more on the other stuff. As far as

0:45:11.920 --> 0:45:13.800
<v Speaker 3>the songs. Like I said, me and Sean did Motown

0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:16.880
<v Speaker 3>Philly in my backyard and then wine we was We

0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:19.080
<v Speaker 3>were all sitting in my brother's room and like I said,

0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:20.840
<v Speaker 3>Bib came up with the idea, you guys need to

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:25.960
<v Speaker 3>write a Sean call oh and Niggas was like so

0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:32.400
<v Speaker 3>it was like who nobody wanted to write it? So

0:45:32.560 --> 0:45:34.560
<v Speaker 3>we should? There we we all flipped the coin and

0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:36.800
<v Speaker 3>Wan lost, so he had to write it. So he

0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:49.640
<v Speaker 3>started writing, so we all went back in the studio. Yeah,

0:45:50.120 --> 0:45:52.840
<v Speaker 3>remix Sean. I think me and Sean did the remix.

0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:57.040
<v Speaker 3>I think I did. Yeah, anyway, why started writing it?

0:45:57.200 --> 0:46:00.400
<v Speaker 3>He came to the studio and he couldn't finish it,

0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 3>so he's like, yo.

0:46:01.200 --> 0:46:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Dude, finished it, but you said it ain't nazty y'all.

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:08.320
<v Speaker 3>I said it ain't nasty enough. And he was like

0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:10.800
<v Speaker 3>he was like, well, dude, I mean you know what

0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:12.399
<v Speaker 3>what are we supposed to do? I said, ye, yeah,

0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:15.600
<v Speaker 3>get here? So I rewrote some of it. I rewrote

0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:19.279
<v Speaker 3>it and wrote wrote what parts of it and then

0:46:19.400 --> 0:46:21.000
<v Speaker 3>we had we started singing it and I was like,

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:24.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, man, my dad ain't gonna be proud

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:28.360
<v Speaker 3>of me with this song. Were like just we just

0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:30.319
<v Speaker 3>pushed record and just kept going. It was like there

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:32.680
<v Speaker 3>was we ain't we ain't trying to pressure that right now.

0:46:32.840 --> 0:46:36.040
<v Speaker 3>So why came in the studio late the day we

0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:39.560
<v Speaker 3>was recording and we had a girl in the studio.

0:46:39.960 --> 0:46:41.960
<v Speaker 3>Didn't make the record, but we had a girl in

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:46.839
<v Speaker 3>the studio making these sounds and stuff on the right. Yes,

0:46:47.800 --> 0:46:49.360
<v Speaker 3>but I mean like some of the stuff that we

0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:55.680
<v Speaker 3>didn't make the record. But anyway, video Wine came in.

0:46:55.920 --> 0:46:58.200
<v Speaker 3>I was I was on the console. Wine came in

0:46:58.719 --> 0:47:00.239
<v Speaker 3>and he heard the girl. He looked at the move

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:03.640
<v Speaker 3>was like, what is what? What's this? What's what is that?

0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:06.080
<v Speaker 3>We're just trying to, you know, get the song where

0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:08.000
<v Speaker 3>it needs to be. It's like, dude, I told you

0:47:08.280 --> 0:47:10.279
<v Speaker 3>my dad ain't gonna be proud of and he ran

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 3>out and slammed the door on me and other like

0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:15.239
<v Speaker 3>all try to get one more time where you go

0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:15.920
<v Speaker 3>from the top.

0:47:18.800 --> 0:47:19.479
<v Speaker 5>With the song.

0:47:20.320 --> 0:47:24.080
<v Speaker 3>So again, most of those songs, almost all those songs

0:47:24.120 --> 0:47:27.560
<v Speaker 3>except two on the first album, we all wrote either

0:47:27.600 --> 0:47:30.080
<v Speaker 3>in high school or on the way to the studio

0:47:30.320 --> 0:47:34.080
<v Speaker 3>and houses getting ready to make that record because Motown

0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:35.680
<v Speaker 3>had no songs for us.

0:47:36.040 --> 0:47:38.640
<v Speaker 2>They didn't know what to do with us at all.

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Wow, So how difficult was the transition in your personal

0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:49.040
<v Speaker 1>lives again. I can only speak from an experience that

0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:52.959
<v Speaker 1>your life drastically changes, and probably the people that change

0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:56.239
<v Speaker 1>the most on you are your are family members, like

0:47:56.280 --> 0:48:00.640
<v Speaker 1>people that are close to you and whatnot, how awkward

0:48:00.960 --> 0:48:07.200
<v Speaker 1>or not awkward. What's that adjustment like with your your

0:48:07.400 --> 0:48:09.600
<v Speaker 1>your first year into coming out with as far as

0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:13.279
<v Speaker 1>like interacting with friends from your your your childhood and

0:48:14.560 --> 0:48:15.760
<v Speaker 1>people that feel entitled.

0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:17.680
<v Speaker 5>I can't say.

0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:21.000
<v Speaker 8>I can't say that there's been like some metal dramatic

0:48:22.120 --> 0:48:25.160
<v Speaker 8>like change personally from people that I knew. The people

0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:28.319
<v Speaker 8>that I knew were actually in support of me even

0:48:28.400 --> 0:48:32.760
<v Speaker 8>before all this, so when it happened for me personally,

0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:36.960
<v Speaker 8>they were like, okay, that makes sense because I was

0:48:37.000 --> 0:48:39.560
<v Speaker 8>the kid that was in the Philadelphia Boys Choir and

0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:42.920
<v Speaker 8>you know I did these things and that, you know,

0:48:42.960 --> 0:48:45.080
<v Speaker 8>all the other stuff. So when it came down to oh,

0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:46.879
<v Speaker 8>I'm in the group, you know, you had a couple

0:48:46.920 --> 0:48:49.560
<v Speaker 8>little knuckleheads's like oh, I don't believe until you know

0:48:49.640 --> 0:48:50.400
<v Speaker 8>it all happened.

0:48:50.440 --> 0:48:54.880
<v Speaker 5>But it was never like oh, you know, give me

0:48:55.000 --> 0:48:57.920
<v Speaker 5>some money or some it was. It wasn't a movie scene.

0:48:58.040 --> 0:48:59.920
<v Speaker 5>It was it was it was all. It was all

0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:02.160
<v Speaker 5>all supported in a sense where when I came back

0:49:02.160 --> 0:49:04.840
<v Speaker 5>to my neighborhood, everybody was like, Yo, what's up? And

0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:08.120
<v Speaker 5>I was sit my old stupid just with my you know,

0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:10.080
<v Speaker 5>the same friends that I had, and we'd hang out

0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:12.320
<v Speaker 5>and kick it. I think it's the same with everybody.

0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:22.279
<v Speaker 3>I mean, because no, dude, like, Yo, you're supposed to come,

0:49:22.719 --> 0:49:24.560
<v Speaker 3>You're supposed to get us up all out of here.

0:49:24.680 --> 0:49:26.680
<v Speaker 3>And I'm sitting here going through it because I'm a

0:49:26.760 --> 0:49:28.759
<v Speaker 3>logical thinking guy. So I go through my head. I'm like,

0:49:29.840 --> 0:49:32.200
<v Speaker 3>and I asked, this, dude, is five y'all out here,

0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:34.200
<v Speaker 3>let's just just just play this game for a second

0:49:34.239 --> 0:49:37.279
<v Speaker 3>with you. I'm supposed to make it and come back

0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:39.960
<v Speaker 3>and get all of y'all out. So if I come

0:49:40.040 --> 0:49:42.440
<v Speaker 3>get off five of y'all out and give y'all all

0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:44.960
<v Speaker 3>my stuff, y'all gonna be going, and I'm gonna be

0:49:45.000 --> 0:49:47.040
<v Speaker 3>back here on this corner by myself. I'm not gonna

0:49:47.040 --> 0:49:49.919
<v Speaker 3>be here by myself. I'm not giveing y'all nothing. Yeah,

0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:52.400
<v Speaker 3>And that's how that went well with me. It was

0:49:52.520 --> 0:49:52.759
<v Speaker 3>with me.

0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:55.600
<v Speaker 7>It was a little different because I'm from the Project

0:49:55.680 --> 0:49:57.080
<v Speaker 7>for Richard Island Project.

0:49:57.520 --> 0:49:59.960
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, and Northern Liberties.

0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:04.480
<v Speaker 3>Homes exactly.

0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:07.920
<v Speaker 7>So, so I'm from Richard Island and a lot of

0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:13.560
<v Speaker 7>people that when I became famous, they were my age.

0:50:13.600 --> 0:50:15.480
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. There's a lot of cats

0:50:15.520 --> 0:50:17.439
<v Speaker 2>that was my age. But they were doing other things.

0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:18.040
<v Speaker 3>What I'm saying.

0:50:18.080 --> 0:50:20.640
<v Speaker 7>They were street pharmacists, you know what I'm saying. They

0:50:20.719 --> 0:50:23.319
<v Speaker 7>were you know, they was hustling, they was doing all

0:50:23.360 --> 0:50:26.520
<v Speaker 7>the different stuff. But they always supported me, you know

0:50:26.560 --> 0:50:30.640
<v Speaker 7>what I'm saying. Once we became uh you know famous,

0:50:31.000 --> 0:50:35.800
<v Speaker 7>uh sort of sick sort of speak, we actually you know,

0:50:35.880 --> 0:50:37.799
<v Speaker 7>when I would come back, every time I would come back,

0:50:37.880 --> 0:50:41.000
<v Speaker 7>somebody was in jail or dead, you know what I'm saying.

0:50:41.800 --> 0:50:43.600
<v Speaker 2>And it was their.

0:50:43.880 --> 0:50:47.520
<v Speaker 7>Brothers and sisters who are now older and in the

0:50:47.680 --> 0:50:48.719
<v Speaker 7>place where they were.

0:50:48.840 --> 0:50:52.080
<v Speaker 2>So they didn't have the same respect for.

0:50:52.280 --> 0:50:56.120
<v Speaker 7>Me as their brothers, brothers, you know what I'm saying,

0:50:56.160 --> 0:50:58.960
<v Speaker 7>who was like, yeah, we we finally made it, you

0:50:59.040 --> 0:50:59.600
<v Speaker 7>know what I'm saying.

0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:01.120
<v Speaker 2>That's how they felt.

0:51:01.480 --> 0:51:04.240
<v Speaker 7>But then as they started going you know, the prison

0:51:04.480 --> 0:51:07.440
<v Speaker 7>and you know, passing away and stuff, that there was

0:51:07.520 --> 0:51:10.400
<v Speaker 7>no respect there. I even had to move my grandma

0:51:10.560 --> 0:51:12.680
<v Speaker 7>out of and she loved the project. She loved it

0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:16.000
<v Speaker 7>even when I was making money. She really literally wanted

0:51:16.040 --> 0:51:18.160
<v Speaker 7>to stay there, you know what I'm saying, because that's

0:51:18.200 --> 0:51:20.680
<v Speaker 7>really all she knew for so long. But I had

0:51:20.760 --> 0:51:22.640
<v Speaker 7>to move her out of there because I couldn't go

0:51:23.360 --> 0:51:25.280
<v Speaker 7>and sit out in front of her house.

0:51:25.120 --> 0:51:27.919
<v Speaker 2>With my with my bends, now you know what I'm saying,

0:51:28.600 --> 0:51:29.719
<v Speaker 2>with my bends.

0:51:29.920 --> 0:51:33.320
<v Speaker 7>Or in my truck and people just walk by. It

0:51:33.480 --> 0:51:36.279
<v Speaker 7>was always something and my grandma was here to getting

0:51:36.280 --> 0:51:39.160
<v Speaker 7>a lot from it. And she basically was like, yeah,

0:51:39.239 --> 0:51:41.040
<v Speaker 7>they talking crazy. I said, well, you got to move

0:51:41.120 --> 0:51:41.480
<v Speaker 7>out of here.

0:51:41.480 --> 0:51:43.560
<v Speaker 3>And I just bought her the heat. The heat was

0:51:43.600 --> 0:51:45.480
<v Speaker 3>coming for sure. Yeah. Yeah.

0:51:45.680 --> 0:51:47.880
<v Speaker 2>So I mean, it's it's it's different.

0:51:47.920 --> 0:51:50.840
<v Speaker 7>I mean family is a little different too, of course,

0:51:51.280 --> 0:51:54.840
<v Speaker 7>because like you said, there's always an entitlement somewhere somewhere.

0:51:54.880 --> 0:51:58.239
<v Speaker 7>It's not necessarily always the immediate, but there's always an

0:51:58.440 --> 0:52:00.680
<v Speaker 7>entitlement of a cousin, of a cousin, a cousin, you know,

0:52:01.160 --> 0:52:04.640
<v Speaker 7>I what's you know, But they're not really you know

0:52:04.880 --> 0:52:06.440
<v Speaker 7>a part of your life like that, you know.

0:52:06.600 --> 0:52:08.160
<v Speaker 3>I tell you what's funny with me is that I

0:52:08.440 --> 0:52:11.680
<v Speaker 3>had to try to, uh, because I always try to

0:52:11.719 --> 0:52:13.560
<v Speaker 3>think a little bit ahead. I had to try to

0:52:13.640 --> 0:52:17.280
<v Speaker 3>think for family members who don't really understand the change

0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:20.920
<v Speaker 3>of the lifestyle. And in some cases, you know, obviously

0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:23.280
<v Speaker 3>when he becomes a chestful, you can't bring your whole family,

0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:25.279
<v Speaker 3>you know, out of the ghetto. I mean, there are

0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:27.799
<v Speaker 3>people still live there and whatnot. To the point where

0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:30.640
<v Speaker 3>I had to start seeing my family at my house

0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:34.680
<v Speaker 3>because I always felt like me driving up in my

0:52:34.800 --> 0:52:37.600
<v Speaker 3>car going in their house, I'm kind of endangering because

0:52:37.640 --> 0:52:40.680
<v Speaker 3>when I leave, whoever saw that car pull up, It's like, well,

0:52:41.440 --> 0:52:43.640
<v Speaker 3>why was he going in there? What's in there that

0:52:43.719 --> 0:52:45.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't know about? So I would always have to

0:52:45.840 --> 0:52:48.120
<v Speaker 3>wind up having my family come to me, and I

0:52:48.200 --> 0:52:49.919
<v Speaker 3>had to kind of pull up from going to see

0:52:49.960 --> 0:52:52.240
<v Speaker 3>my family just not to put them in those spots.

0:52:52.600 --> 0:52:54.520
<v Speaker 6>It's a controlled environment if they come to see.

0:52:54.400 --> 0:52:56.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly exactly.

0:52:57.160 --> 0:53:01.040
<v Speaker 1>How how burdensome is in the end of the road

0:53:01.320 --> 0:53:06.000
<v Speaker 1>and retrospect, how burdens them?

0:53:06.160 --> 0:53:06.320
<v Speaker 3>Is it?

0:53:06.920 --> 0:53:10.120
<v Speaker 2>Like I understand what he's said, is it?

0:53:10.600 --> 0:53:10.759
<v Speaker 11>Is it?

0:53:11.160 --> 0:53:15.399
<v Speaker 1>How do you feel like, no, no, no, even when

0:53:15.440 --> 0:53:19.400
<v Speaker 1>it was happening. When it was happening, you know, Okay,

0:53:19.440 --> 0:53:22.160
<v Speaker 1>So I was obsessively reading billboard like this is right

0:53:22.239 --> 0:53:24.799
<v Speaker 1>before we got put on. So I was always handing

0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:29.080
<v Speaker 1>in industry circles. I was interning at rough House. So

0:53:30.120 --> 0:53:35.000
<v Speaker 1>when it got to that twelfth week, like every forty

0:53:35.080 --> 0:53:36.800
<v Speaker 1>year old white guy was like, yo, they're about to

0:53:37.120 --> 0:53:40.879
<v Speaker 1>break the Beatles. It was like Santa Claus wasn't real,

0:53:41.200 --> 0:53:44.880
<v Speaker 1>had no idea, no for real, there was like it

0:53:44.960 --> 0:53:47.960
<v Speaker 1>was like Santa Claus wasn't real and they're going to

0:53:48.080 --> 0:53:52.560
<v Speaker 1>break this record in the nex and it happened. Like

0:53:52.719 --> 0:53:55.520
<v Speaker 1>did did it feel anyway or was it just like, yeah.

0:53:56.920 --> 0:53:59.520
<v Speaker 5>We got Yeah. When we got the news, we were

0:53:59.560 --> 0:54:03.960
<v Speaker 5>in London and you know, we were overseas most of

0:54:04.000 --> 0:54:06.200
<v Speaker 5>the time. That end of the road was doing what

0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:06.719
<v Speaker 5>it was doing.

0:54:06.840 --> 0:54:08.800
<v Speaker 8>So when we finally got the news, we were literally

0:54:08.880 --> 0:54:11.960
<v Speaker 8>ten minutes in going on stage at the Hippodrome in

0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:15.360
<v Speaker 8>London and someone told us, hey, guys, you know, you

0:54:15.440 --> 0:54:18.279
<v Speaker 8>guys broke the record. Uh you know, longest number run

0:54:18.320 --> 0:54:18.879
<v Speaker 8>blah blah blah.

0:54:18.920 --> 0:54:25.319
<v Speaker 5>We're like, oh cool, Wow, I think there was more

0:54:25.400 --> 0:54:26.360
<v Speaker 5>so I think it was.

0:54:27.120 --> 0:54:33.520
<v Speaker 3>Honestly, we didn't really know how much it meant. Like again,

0:54:34.239 --> 0:54:36.400
<v Speaker 3>the same way we were in high school was the

0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:38.320
<v Speaker 3>same exact way we were in the business for a

0:54:38.400 --> 0:54:42.160
<v Speaker 3>long time. It was just find a song, learn the song,

0:54:42.800 --> 0:54:45.279
<v Speaker 3>sing the song better than any damn other group can

0:54:45.320 --> 0:54:47.440
<v Speaker 3>ever sing it on the planet, and keep doing it

0:54:47.600 --> 0:54:51.080
<v Speaker 3>again and again and again and every single day. That's

0:54:51.320 --> 0:54:53.840
<v Speaker 3>all everything was about. So all the other stuff that

0:54:53.960 --> 0:54:56.799
<v Speaker 3>was going on that didn't even matter. It's like, okay,

0:54:56.920 --> 0:55:00.479
<v Speaker 3>well now we're finished with Thomas rehearsal. Rehearsal was at seven.

0:55:00.560 --> 0:55:02.480
<v Speaker 3>We gotta get we got to get these harmonies right

0:55:02.920 --> 0:55:06.040
<v Speaker 3>for the next thing. It was just never a time

0:55:06.120 --> 0:55:08.440
<v Speaker 3>to even think about that. We just didn't know how

0:55:08.560 --> 0:55:09.239
<v Speaker 3>big that was.

0:55:09.640 --> 0:55:12.040
<v Speaker 7>Right, And the funny thing was, at the same time,

0:55:13.719 --> 0:55:16.080
<v Speaker 7>if we were if we knew that the the record

0:55:16.120 --> 0:55:18.920
<v Speaker 7>even existed, like you said, you were around that circle Mire,

0:55:19.080 --> 0:55:21.839
<v Speaker 7>so you know what I mean, people were saying, oh god,

0:55:21.960 --> 0:55:24.400
<v Speaker 7>this is about to happen. We didn't even know that

0:55:24.520 --> 0:55:27.040
<v Speaker 7>there was a record that existed that needed to be broken,

0:55:27.160 --> 0:55:27.919
<v Speaker 7>you know what I'm saying.

0:55:28.560 --> 0:55:30.680
<v Speaker 2>So if we were like waiting for it, like all,

0:55:30.719 --> 0:55:32.080
<v Speaker 2>we're about to do it, We're about to do it.

0:55:32.200 --> 0:55:34.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, But what I'm saying, we didn't do it.

0:55:35.400 --> 0:55:37.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess if you're living it, if you guys are

0:55:38.120 --> 0:55:41.240
<v Speaker 1>actively working living it and I'm observing it, it's different

0:55:41.440 --> 0:55:44.200
<v Speaker 1>like at that point I was observing it. So for me,

0:55:45.640 --> 0:55:50.800
<v Speaker 1>like me observing those first two years was just like wow,

0:55:51.080 --> 0:55:56.080
<v Speaker 1>like someone that I actually know is doing something, Yeah,

0:55:56.239 --> 0:55:59.799
<v Speaker 1>doing something fucking big and let me let.

0:55:59.719 --> 0:56:00.880
<v Speaker 3>Me tell you and that let me tell you one

0:56:00.920 --> 0:56:03.360
<v Speaker 3>real quick. We got the same vibe with y'all and

0:56:03.440 --> 0:56:06.239
<v Speaker 3>this was crazy. We was running around doing all this stuff.

0:56:06.280 --> 0:56:08.239
<v Speaker 3>Went up to Canada. Now you know Canada, they got

0:56:08.280 --> 0:56:11.799
<v Speaker 3>the all the all the gear and whatnot. The first

0:56:11.880 --> 0:56:16.240
<v Speaker 3>time we ever heard Roots was the clothing line in Canada.

0:56:16.440 --> 0:56:19.279
<v Speaker 3>We was like, Jackets is nigga we heard about We

0:56:19.400 --> 0:56:23.960
<v Speaker 3>heard y'all as the Roots. We was like, we know

0:56:24.480 --> 0:56:29.560
<v Speaker 3>that's up fun. What that's dude, that's that's a mirror.

0:56:30.000 --> 0:56:34.080
<v Speaker 3>It was for us, it was like we just felt like, yo,

0:56:34.360 --> 0:56:36.680
<v Speaker 3>his other brother made it, you know what I'm saying.

0:56:36.760 --> 0:56:40.879
<v Speaker 3>Like that was just so like because that's the only

0:56:40.920 --> 0:56:43.560
<v Speaker 3>way we That was our only time we ever heard

0:56:43.560 --> 0:56:47.440
<v Speaker 3>anything about the Roots, like, oh, it's the group and

0:56:47.560 --> 0:56:52.279
<v Speaker 3>they oh that's oh, we know the biggest y'all. That

0:56:52.480 --> 0:56:52.640
<v Speaker 3>was it.

0:56:53.239 --> 0:56:57.040
<v Speaker 11>That was it because I wish they forgot about your

0:56:57.080 --> 0:56:58.000
<v Speaker 11>ass after high school.

0:56:58.040 --> 0:57:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Home here, it was like, dude, I'm gonna wait, wait, wait,

0:57:01.200 --> 0:57:03.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna know for real, I gotta tell

0:57:03.800 --> 0:57:11.600
<v Speaker 1>you that I had to throw that shirt away because

0:57:11.719 --> 0:57:15.200
<v Speaker 1>all right, so it's weird. I know your lives have changed,

0:57:15.239 --> 0:57:21.640
<v Speaker 1>but imagine a two point six a two point six

0:57:21.760 --> 0:57:32.280
<v Speaker 1>second cameo. Yeah, a two point six second cameo. It

0:57:32.640 --> 0:57:37.960
<v Speaker 1>literally it changed my life at that point, to the

0:57:38.040 --> 0:57:41.640
<v Speaker 1>point where like Tarik would come by the crib, we

0:57:41.760 --> 0:57:43.880
<v Speaker 1>go by and he's like, wait, what are you doing.

0:57:44.000 --> 0:57:46.280
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't know. He's like, you're not

0:57:46.360 --> 0:57:48.840
<v Speaker 1>wearing the shirt. I said, I'm not wearing that shirt. Yo,

0:57:49.960 --> 0:57:50.680
<v Speaker 1>go get the shirt.

0:57:50.720 --> 0:57:51.920
<v Speaker 6>Man's dirty.

0:57:53.080 --> 0:57:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I'll wait, Like that outfit had to been worn. The

0:57:58.560 --> 0:58:02.920
<v Speaker 1>worst it ever got was at my grain mom's funeral. Wow,

0:58:04.000 --> 0:58:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not lying. I'm not lying to you.

0:58:06.640 --> 0:58:08.320
<v Speaker 2>It's like it's.

0:58:09.840 --> 0:58:13.240
<v Speaker 1>It's like you guys were so popular, so when.

0:58:13.160 --> 0:58:14.600
<v Speaker 11>They asked you to be in a video a mir

0:58:14.680 --> 0:58:16.320
<v Speaker 11>you just how long did you take to say yes?

0:58:17.720 --> 0:58:18.200
<v Speaker 3>Hell? Yeah?

0:58:19.360 --> 0:58:23.560
<v Speaker 9>Like that man being in a video was like and

0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:26.920
<v Speaker 9>that's why the funny thing verified on Instagram?

0:58:30.960 --> 0:58:32.120
<v Speaker 3>What's the funnier man?

0:58:32.240 --> 0:58:32.760
<v Speaker 13>Is that back?

0:58:32.840 --> 0:58:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Like you wing up at four in the morning, all

0:58:34.400 --> 0:58:36.040
<v Speaker 1>excited looking at you outfit.

0:58:35.880 --> 0:58:41.400
<v Speaker 3>Like yeah, it's like but it's funny because back then, dude,

0:58:41.560 --> 0:58:43.360
<v Speaker 3>as soon as we got the word that we was

0:58:43.400 --> 0:58:46.600
<v Speaker 3>doing motown Philly and we knew he was doing in Philly,

0:58:47.640 --> 0:58:49.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean just nature for us was like who do

0:58:49.760 --> 0:58:54.320
<v Speaker 3>we know? Who's our people? Amyor but would anybody we

0:58:54.440 --> 0:59:11.120
<v Speaker 3>grew up with like yeah Johnson, Yeah, we tried our

0:59:11.160 --> 0:59:15.800
<v Speaker 3>best to get we wanted. We wanted Philly to be

0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:18.600
<v Speaker 3>finally on the map with us. We couldn't go on

0:59:18.720 --> 0:59:20.240
<v Speaker 3>the map without everybody else.

0:59:20.920 --> 0:59:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Hanso was in it. Yeah, it was like all the.

0:59:26.200 --> 0:59:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Might be I don't know what respect to Hanso.

0:59:30.440 --> 0:59:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes he's reverend Reverend Hansel.

0:59:36.000 --> 0:59:38.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, let's talk about it.

0:59:38.960 --> 0:59:41.560
<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about Jesus money.

0:59:43.560 --> 0:59:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm working with the tax.

0:59:47.360 --> 0:59:49.240
<v Speaker 3>I know that I know that I know to get

0:59:49.360 --> 0:59:52.400
<v Speaker 3>up come on man, Yeah.

0:59:53.880 --> 0:59:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah for real, Like I had to throw the shirt

0:59:58.480 --> 1:00:02.800
<v Speaker 1>away and not rock that ship. No more crazy man,

1:00:02.920 --> 1:00:08.520
<v Speaker 1>that's that's yeah, but it got it got crazy. What

1:00:08.680 --> 1:00:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I actually, what I do want to know is can

1:00:12.480 --> 1:00:16.920
<v Speaker 1>you guys speak on Khalil Roundtree like a relationship with

1:00:17.000 --> 1:00:19.800
<v Speaker 1>him and the effect that that had on you.

1:00:22.400 --> 1:00:23.160
<v Speaker 3>Gritish man.

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<v Speaker 8>Kyliloo Big because Kyli was road manager for the edition.

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<v Speaker 5>And we met him in Philly, right, guys, we met

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<v Speaker 5>him in a used to forears on at r PM.

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<v Speaker 3>At uh RPM on on Delaware Avenue.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Delaware Avenue.

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<v Speaker 8>Baby, Yeah, And you know, to make a long story short,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, Khalil became our father figure, you know, somebody

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<v Speaker 8>that looked out for us and protected us from everything

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<v Speaker 8>and everybody.

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<v Speaker 5>And and you know, even though Big brought him.

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<v Speaker 8>Brought him in, and initially his loyalty was to Big,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, that slowly turned it turned into something else.

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<v Speaker 8>Like you know, he he started to love us, just

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<v Speaker 8>like we started to love him, and it became us.

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<v Speaker 6>You know when you when you talk about that where

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<v Speaker 6>your father's like in you guys lives, Like what was.

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<v Speaker 2>The status to that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, they weren't on the road with us, gotcha,

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<v Speaker 6>got you?

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<v Speaker 5>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 8>Like when we were on the road and we were

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<v Speaker 8>traveling and doing all the stuff that we were doing,

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<v Speaker 8>he took on that father you know figure you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Mon was mine was out but yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Right, but but for the most part, he took care

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<v Speaker 8>of all of us and he made sure that you know,

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<v Speaker 8>we were not only safe, but that we were carrying

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<v Speaker 8>ourselves the right way, and that you know, we stay

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<v Speaker 8>motivated and even doing rehearsals and all the other stuff.

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<v Speaker 8>Like he he was something special because you know, he

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<v Speaker 8>really gave a shit about us. It wasn't just a paycheck,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, to Khalil, like he became an integral part

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<v Speaker 8>of all of our families.

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<v Speaker 5>He would talk all of my mothers on the road,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, because the mothers were.

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<v Speaker 8>We calling on the road making sure that we're all right,

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<v Speaker 8>he would talk to each and every one of them,

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<v Speaker 8>making sure that they knew that, you know, we were

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<v Speaker 8>safe and all that.

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<v Speaker 5>He became something different than just the average Roman.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, he actually, uh my dad was was

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<v Speaker 2>only comfortable with.

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<v Speaker 7>Me being on the room we met kyl Once he

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<v Speaker 7>met he was like, okay, I'm cool.

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<v Speaker 3>That was like he was like the partner for me.

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<v Speaker 11>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I said, my dad wasn't around. So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I got the call first from Viv about

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<v Speaker 3>a guy that he was looking into and Kylil had.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the night before we all met him. He

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<v Speaker 3>was staying at an airport, Marriott or whatever, and you

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<v Speaker 3>know he had with a big giant silver case with

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<v Speaker 3>all his cassettes lined up on his on his thing

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<v Speaker 3>in his room. And when I first walked in, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I was a little intimidated because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>kylil big dude. I mean he's a big, big guy.

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<v Speaker 3>So and that real deep voice, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>So you was it was almost like the father figure

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of you know, put you in line without

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<v Speaker 3>you mentally knowing it. But you know, once you got

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<v Speaker 3>to know him, you knew he was a big teddy

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<v Speaker 3>bear overall. But he was just always he was never

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<v Speaker 3>going to tell you something that either wasn't right or

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<v Speaker 3>something that was bullshit. That just was not the guy.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if someone tried to, you know, say hey,

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<v Speaker 3>well you know I need you to do this or

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<v Speaker 3>you know in the business with it, like yeah, we

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<v Speaker 3>need you to get your artists to do he was

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<v Speaker 3>never that guy like I'm not getting my artist to

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<v Speaker 3>do anything. Like I'm going to tell them what it

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<v Speaker 3>is and then we're going to talk about it. He

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<v Speaker 3>was that guy. So he taught us early on the

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<v Speaker 3>ins and out of that whole business thing. So, like

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<v Speaker 3>Sean said, you know he was. He was more than

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<v Speaker 3>a father. He was he was everything we could have

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<v Speaker 3>possibly asked for.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, yeah, what year was it when you passed? I

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<v Speaker 9>remember seeing y'all. This was I mean god, I was

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<v Speaker 9>in like seventh grade. Y'all came to Greensboro colisee him

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<v Speaker 9>and I want to say it was the boy White Superfest,

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<v Speaker 9>but I remember it was.

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<v Speaker 6>It was y'all, Jo Desy and Hammer was the was

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<v Speaker 6>the headliner.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it was ninety.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, like ninety two. Yeah, that was around the year

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<v Speaker 6>when he passed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, well, yeah it was ninety two. Yeah, the Hammer Tour.

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<v Speaker 5>Yea, it was in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 8>We just finished playing the rosemand Horizon No and and

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<v Speaker 8>and what was funny is we all kind of like, uh,

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<v Speaker 8>kind of key in on this particular moment the night

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<v Speaker 8>that he passed away that got murdered. Kyler was a

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<v Speaker 8>very confident dude. Every move that he made, everything that

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<v Speaker 8>you know, he wanted us to do, he said it

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<v Speaker 8>with with calculated you know what I'm saying, We're gonna

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<v Speaker 8>do this, We're gonna do that, We're gonna do this.

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<v Speaker 8>This was the first night I don't know that we

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<v Speaker 8>ever seeing Kyl say where y'all what hotel y'all want

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<v Speaker 8>to stay?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know which hotel.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, he came to us with the promoter's idea.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess the promoter wanted us to stay. You know, promoters,

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<v Speaker 3>they got a cheaper hotel over where you know all

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<v Speaker 3>the crew is staying. So I want to move the guys.

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<v Speaker 3>And like Sean said, Kyleel was never never indecisive. He

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<v Speaker 3>was always well, just where they're going, you're doing this?

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<v Speaker 3>This where they're going? Because I said so, and he

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<v Speaker 3>came to us and a dress for him. It's like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the promoter, you know, save him some money

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<v Speaker 3>if you guys did this so forth and so on.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I don't, I don't really know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of on the fence. What do y'all want

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<v Speaker 3>to do? And we were like, I mean, carry us

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<v Speaker 3>up to you whatever. You know what I'm saying, We

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<v Speaker 3>don't really whatever you want to do. And he picked

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<v Speaker 3>the hotel and unfortunately that was the hotel where guys

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<v Speaker 3>came in. And you know, I don't like to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about it, so.

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<v Speaker 1>About sharing that, I'm sorry. I do have to ask though,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know that singing is I always see singing

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<v Speaker 1>as an intimate thing, and I know that you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are like brothers. You know, when Tarika and I are

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<v Speaker 1>angry with each other, like the Root show can still happen,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because we're not facing each other. But how

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<v Speaker 1>do you guys handle if if there's friction between y'all

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<v Speaker 1>and you still have to do the intimate act of

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<v Speaker 1>singing with each other and harmonizing.

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<v Speaker 2>We do it because actually, the funny thing is is

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<v Speaker 2>that music it actually.

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<v Speaker 7>Supersedes everything, you know what I mean, what we do

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<v Speaker 7>together is magic, and it's like, you know, literally, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>sometimes I literally listen to how we create and figure

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<v Speaker 7>out certain parts without even thinking about it, you know

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<v Speaker 7>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>So when we're on stage, we all know that we

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<v Speaker 2>have a job to do, for one but at the same.

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<v Speaker 7>Time, we also know that this person next to me

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<v Speaker 7>is going to do that job better than anybody that

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<v Speaker 7>I could ever, you know what I'm saying. So the

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<v Speaker 7>respect level is really like, I know what he's here

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<v Speaker 7>to do, I know what Sean head. I could be

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<v Speaker 7>pissed off and me mad at me, but we know

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<v Speaker 7>what we gotta do because our integrity is involved.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying it.

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<v Speaker 1>Singing, singing your version of don't go to bed mad, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost again, because.

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<v Speaker 7>If we are having issues, most of the time, after

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<v Speaker 7>we finished performing, somebody will come to somebody's room, somebody

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<v Speaker 7>will say something or something. It will always it takes

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<v Speaker 7>away everything because of what we just did on stage,

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<v Speaker 7>that right there together is greater than the anger that.

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<v Speaker 2>We have, you know for each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it always like that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, I mean we we have fish fights and

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<v Speaker 3>then go back there and go out on stage and rock. Literally,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's just I mean again, we grew up

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<v Speaker 3>as brothers literally, like I have three brothers. I have

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<v Speaker 3>my brother and then I have my brothers. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't know anything else. I mean I always say that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, when we started earlier talking about how much

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<v Speaker 3>time we've been together, we've been together longer than any

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<v Speaker 3>of us have been together with any family member. That

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<v Speaker 3>even our mothers like you, spend more time with each

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<v Speaker 3>other than our own parents, like any there's not one

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<v Speaker 3>family member in any of our families that we have

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<v Speaker 3>spent more time around than each other.

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<v Speaker 7>So I mean right there, like, I mean, it's really that.

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<v Speaker 7>It answers itself. You know what I'm saying, like, that's

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<v Speaker 7>what That's what family do?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 7>Of course, you know you go through things, you like argue,

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<v Speaker 7>but at the end of the day, you know we're

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<v Speaker 7>still family and we do something together better than any body,

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<v Speaker 7>I believe, And.

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<v Speaker 3>We're the only one that can say what we said

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<v Speaker 3>about each other. And you can't call my brother that

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<v Speaker 3>I can say it.

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<v Speaker 5>You can't say it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's that facts.

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<v Speaker 9>Because we were getting into the two album, we're end

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<v Speaker 9>of the role. Before we got there, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 9>go back a little bit. So one of my boys

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<v Speaker 9>men hot Takes. I have several uh as a as

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<v Speaker 9>a longtime fan. My favorite album for y'all Cooliu Harmony.

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<v Speaker 9>I love Coolie Harmony. Outside of COOLi Out Harmony. I

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<v Speaker 9>always thought that some of the best just writing, songwriting, vocal,

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<v Speaker 9>everything was on Christmas Interpretations.

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<v Speaker 6>I fucking love that album. Man, like y'all niggas was

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<v Speaker 6>in y'all bag on that ship.

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<v Speaker 3>We had to fight, We had to fight for that well.

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<v Speaker 3>The label wanted, you know, a typical Jackson five, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, ho Santa Claus Christmas record, and we weren't

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<v Speaker 3>going to do that, like, we didn't want to fall

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<v Speaker 3>into that platform, whether the whole whole hole and jingle bells.

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<v Speaker 3>So we fought to try to do an original Christmas

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<v Speaker 3>record and we didn't have any songs again, so we

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<v Speaker 3>all sat around and said, all right, well here, Sean,

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<v Speaker 3>you do too, Why you do too? I'm gonna do too, Mike,

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<v Speaker 3>you do too. And then we we we we said, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>well since we did, you know, since we rock out

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<v Speaker 3>with the night, because that's our boy, you know, we'll

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<v Speaker 3>have him come in and he will have him produce

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<v Speaker 3>it with us, and if he's got a song or too,

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<v Speaker 3>will throw it on and we'll rock out like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody just wrote two songs and we just went for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Hyeah nah.

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<v Speaker 9>I love that because it was, you know, like hearing

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<v Speaker 9>you say you didn't want to do just a typical,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, jingle bells, you know kind of record. But

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<v Speaker 9>all the songs, I mean, they were just great songs

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<v Speaker 9>that could have been They could have worked year round,

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<v Speaker 9>like they weren't relegated.

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<v Speaker 6>Like I would listen to that album in March, you

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<v Speaker 6>know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 5>Like that was you know what that that that's the

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<v Speaker 5>cop I appreciate that find you.

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<v Speaker 8>But you know, going back to the question that you

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<v Speaker 8>you said like a little while ago, as parts things

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<v Speaker 8>that you have written, I don't think I'm credit just

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<v Speaker 8>more or less. I wish that there was more emphasis

1:11:03.760 --> 1:11:10.639
<v Speaker 8>applied on me and my guys h ability to write music,

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<v Speaker 8>because we tried our best to even even they you know,

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<v Speaker 8>we tried to be the next La and face of

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<v Speaker 8>jam and Lewis or something like that.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, we felt like that that was like a natural

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<v Speaker 5>progression for us to kind of go into that realm.

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<v Speaker 8>And you know, I'm speaking of all of us, Wan

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<v Speaker 8>Ye got a crazy pan like you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>Like we've we've all written records.

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<v Speaker 2>For us and for other people.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that that that, you know, I wish for my

1:11:38.720 --> 1:11:44.720
<v Speaker 8>guys that we were I guess more. I guess that

1:11:44.920 --> 1:11:48.960
<v Speaker 8>that was more emphasized on. But because Boys to Men

1:11:49.160 --> 1:11:52.600
<v Speaker 8>was such a phenomenon and it was such a juggernaut

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<v Speaker 8>in itself, it seemed like all of our folks, honestly,

1:11:57.000 --> 1:11:59.720
<v Speaker 8>to look at looking at it in retrospect, a lot

1:11:59.800 --> 1:12:03.760
<v Speaker 8>of people, even down to Gerald, who's just like Wanye said,

1:12:04.040 --> 1:12:05.320
<v Speaker 8>they didn't know what to do with us.

1:12:05.640 --> 1:12:08.080
<v Speaker 5>So when we were successful, they were like, what.

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<v Speaker 3>The fuck is this right?

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<v Speaker 8>You understand what I'm saying, Like everybody was kind of like, well,

1:12:13.200 --> 1:12:17.600
<v Speaker 8>how long is this candle gonna bark? So everybody's mentality

1:12:18.400 --> 1:12:21.599
<v Speaker 8>wasn't hey, let's move these gentlemen forward to the next stage.

1:12:22.240 --> 1:12:24.439
<v Speaker 8>As I looked back at all the events that's happened

1:12:24.520 --> 1:12:26.360
<v Speaker 8>to us and the people that came in and out

1:12:26.360 --> 1:12:28.640
<v Speaker 8>of our lives, it almost felt.

1:12:28.439 --> 1:12:32.640
<v Speaker 5>Like, let's get this money now because we don't we

1:12:32.800 --> 1:12:34.000
<v Speaker 5>don't know how long.

1:12:33.920 --> 1:12:38.280
<v Speaker 8>This train is gonna lie. So a lot of our

1:12:38.439 --> 1:12:42.400
<v Speaker 8>folks had that mentality. They didn't they didn't look beyond

1:12:42.439 --> 1:12:45.200
<v Speaker 8>the fact that Yo Nate was a great songwriter. Yo

1:12:45.320 --> 1:12:47.479
<v Speaker 8>Wan could have been a solo artist, you know, Sean

1:12:47.520 --> 1:12:49.280
<v Speaker 8>could have, Mike could have had you know what I'm saying, Like,

1:12:49.640 --> 1:12:50.280
<v Speaker 8>they didn't go.

1:12:50.400 --> 1:12:51.160
<v Speaker 5>That far with us.

1:12:51.880 --> 1:12:55.600
<v Speaker 8>They just said, Okay, they're a moment, let's snatch and

1:12:55.680 --> 1:12:58.280
<v Speaker 8>grab and then let's move on to the next thing.

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<v Speaker 5>And the case in point of that is when during

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<v Speaker 5>the Evolution album.

1:13:02.439 --> 1:13:04.800
<v Speaker 8>When we came out with the Evolution album, this was

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<v Speaker 8>around the time the boy the boy Band things started

1:13:07.560 --> 1:13:12.440
<v Speaker 8>uh to come up. So you felt from our standpoint,

1:13:12.520 --> 1:13:17.120
<v Speaker 8>you actually felt the shift of people's priorities going from

1:13:17.280 --> 1:13:23.879
<v Speaker 8>us to them, like like literally like our literal budget

1:13:24.880 --> 1:13:30.240
<v Speaker 8>in Motown was literally taken from us and given to

1:13:30.320 --> 1:13:31.120
<v Speaker 8>ninety eight degrees.

1:13:31.920 --> 1:13:37.600
<v Speaker 3>Wow, wow, Like it's real, like they they like.

1:13:37.840 --> 1:13:40.760
<v Speaker 5>These these things happened, and it was it was it

1:13:40.880 --> 1:13:44.720
<v Speaker 5>was almost like they they were done, like everybody was

1:13:44.800 --> 1:13:45.360
<v Speaker 5>done with us.

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<v Speaker 11>Almost mind boggling that they couldn't just add singer songwriter

1:13:49.280 --> 1:13:51.599
<v Speaker 11>to any time y'all names were sick because really thinking

1:13:51.640 --> 1:13:54.360
<v Speaker 11>about that, what.

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<v Speaker 3>Happened when we did the first record, Like we said,

1:13:57.280 --> 1:13:59.080
<v Speaker 3>we had records that were ours. They didn't know what

1:13:59.200 --> 1:14:01.559
<v Speaker 3>to do with it. So it was almost like, well,

1:14:01.560 --> 1:14:03.360
<v Speaker 3>we don't know if this record's gonna do well. Let's

1:14:03.439 --> 1:14:05.720
<v Speaker 3>let the guys do whatever they're gonna do and we'll

1:14:05.720 --> 1:14:09.080
<v Speaker 3>see if the project does well. Project sold twelve million records,

1:14:09.680 --> 1:14:12.000
<v Speaker 3>So at that point the label was like, Okay, so

1:14:12.320 --> 1:14:15.120
<v Speaker 3>we need to make it bigger. Let's who else can

1:14:15.160 --> 1:14:17.880
<v Speaker 3>we get on this record. Now here's the caveat that

1:14:17.920 --> 1:14:21.240
<v Speaker 3>people tend to forget. The original Koolie High Army album

1:14:21.479 --> 1:14:23.960
<v Speaker 3>did not have Endo the Road on it. It wasn't

1:14:24.000 --> 1:14:27.680
<v Speaker 3>part of the original album. That song was done for

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<v Speaker 3>the soundtrack for the Eddie Murphy Boomerang after Koulil Harmony

1:14:32.760 --> 1:14:36.080
<v Speaker 3>was already out. So what if you notice the original

1:14:36.200 --> 1:14:40.640
<v Speaker 3>Koliail Harmony album had us with the shirting coats on

1:14:40.840 --> 1:14:44.080
<v Speaker 3>the canes and the little squares around it. I think

1:14:44.200 --> 1:14:47.760
<v Speaker 3>that original album probably might have gotten to about four

1:14:47.840 --> 1:14:50.439
<v Speaker 3>and a half five million records when they did the

1:14:50.479 --> 1:14:54.200
<v Speaker 3>boomerang deal. They did the deal to Okay, well they

1:14:54.280 --> 1:14:57.400
<v Speaker 3>can use on the soundtrack. We'll have the guys perform

1:14:57.479 --> 1:14:59.880
<v Speaker 3>the song. They'll perform it, we'll put it on that

1:15:00.080 --> 1:15:02.080
<v Speaker 3>set the record, and then we'll also have to put

1:15:02.120 --> 1:15:04.840
<v Speaker 3>it on we'll have the rights. Motown took to put

1:15:04.880 --> 1:15:08.360
<v Speaker 3>it somewhere else. So they repackaged the Koolier Harmony album

1:15:08.400 --> 1:15:10.960
<v Speaker 3>because they saw the new color and have a pop start.

1:15:11.080 --> 1:15:12.800
<v Speaker 3>We had a pop audience, so they said, okay, well

1:15:12.880 --> 1:15:16.200
<v Speaker 3>let's get the bright color. The bow Ties, throw this

1:15:16.320 --> 1:15:19.080
<v Speaker 3>song on air, re released this as a single off

1:15:19.160 --> 1:15:21.880
<v Speaker 3>that album, and then that album goes to twelve million.

1:15:22.000 --> 1:15:23.960
<v Speaker 3>So now their mine is like, okay, well, now we

1:15:24.120 --> 1:15:27.800
<v Speaker 3>need those kind of songs and those kind of songwriters,

1:15:27.920 --> 1:15:30.720
<v Speaker 3>not koli Our Harmony songs, but those kinds so then

1:15:30.720 --> 1:15:32.880
<v Speaker 3>they went to Jimmy and Terry, they went to Babyface,

1:15:33.240 --> 1:15:35.640
<v Speaker 3>and as we were trying to grow as artists, like

1:15:35.880 --> 1:15:37.519
<v Speaker 3>artists always say hey, well we wrote some of those

1:15:37.560 --> 1:15:39.680
<v Speaker 3>songs on the one that did five six, can we

1:15:39.760 --> 1:15:41.640
<v Speaker 3>write Oh yeah, well you could write some stuff, but

1:15:42.080 --> 1:15:44.960
<v Speaker 3>right now we need these guys. So, you know, us

1:15:45.280 --> 1:15:48.360
<v Speaker 3>taking the approach of just let's focus on making sure

1:15:48.400 --> 1:15:50.240
<v Speaker 3>we sing the right notes to do what we gotta do,

1:15:50.720 --> 1:15:53.920
<v Speaker 3>we didn't hammer home right away with trying to be

1:15:54.080 --> 1:15:55.960
<v Speaker 3>on top of it. We got pushed away to the

1:15:56.000 --> 1:15:58.599
<v Speaker 3>point where it was like, okay, well bring Dallas Austin

1:15:58.680 --> 1:16:02.400
<v Speaker 3>back because he's a producer. Artists and producers back then

1:16:02.439 --> 1:16:04.679
<v Speaker 3>they wouldn't let get They didn't. You know, the producer

1:16:04.840 --> 1:16:07.479
<v Speaker 3>was always more important than the artists because the producer

1:16:07.560 --> 1:16:10.720
<v Speaker 3>could produce fifteen to thirty records home on fifteen twenty

1:16:10.840 --> 1:16:13.599
<v Speaker 3>artists that the label had. The artist is just one entity,

1:16:14.000 --> 1:16:16.000
<v Speaker 3>so it was always more important for labels to make

1:16:16.040 --> 1:16:20.080
<v Speaker 3>allegiances with producers and songwriters, keeping us from becoming super

1:16:20.240 --> 1:16:23.439
<v Speaker 3>producers and songwriters took the power away from us to

1:16:23.680 --> 1:16:26.680
<v Speaker 3>just be singers. So they wrapped that land Face and

1:16:26.720 --> 1:16:29.599
<v Speaker 3>everybody around it and not not knockative that it didn't

1:16:29.640 --> 1:16:32.559
<v Speaker 3>do well, but it did stifle what Sean was talking

1:16:32.600 --> 1:16:35.599
<v Speaker 3>about our ability to grow as songwriters. And they kind

1:16:35.640 --> 1:16:37.360
<v Speaker 3>of threw us a bone like, well, here go go

1:16:37.520 --> 1:16:41.400
<v Speaker 3>hang out with you know, Dallas's beat producers, Tim and

1:16:41.439 --> 1:16:43.960
<v Speaker 3>Bob and see what you come up with. So we

1:16:44.080 --> 1:16:46.400
<v Speaker 3>started writing some songs with them, which we happened to

1:16:46.439 --> 1:16:48.880
<v Speaker 3>get on two albums, and one of them we had

1:16:48.880 --> 1:16:50.920
<v Speaker 3>to tell them that Dallas wrote in order to get

1:16:50.960 --> 1:16:52.400
<v Speaker 3>it on the record because they wouldn't put it.

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<v Speaker 6>On that.

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<v Speaker 5>Exactly wows.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, it wasn't. But we had to lie to

1:17:01.439 --> 1:17:04.400
<v Speaker 3>the record label and tell them that Dallas Austin wrote

1:17:04.439 --> 1:17:07.120
<v Speaker 3>that song and produced it because they weren't gonna put

1:17:07.160 --> 1:17:08.479
<v Speaker 3>it on the album. Wow.

1:17:09.280 --> 1:17:11.320
<v Speaker 9>And my favorite songs on that album were the ones

1:17:11.360 --> 1:17:12.760
<v Speaker 9>that y'all did like vibing.

1:17:14.600 --> 1:17:16.840
<v Speaker 3>But to the record labels point as they were trying

1:17:16.920 --> 1:17:20.920
<v Speaker 3>to And and then again I understand it now because

1:17:20.960 --> 1:17:22.800
<v Speaker 3>when you really look at it, we can all talk

1:17:22.840 --> 1:17:26.519
<v Speaker 3>about those records, but if you went to Istanbul, they're

1:17:26.560 --> 1:17:28.840
<v Speaker 3>talking about in the road, they're talking about all make

1:17:28.880 --> 1:17:31.360
<v Speaker 3>love to you. They're not talking about please don't go

1:17:31.479 --> 1:17:32.880
<v Speaker 3>they're not talking, you know what I'm saying, So I

1:17:33.080 --> 1:17:36.760
<v Speaker 3>understand what they were trying to do. But if it

1:17:36.920 --> 1:17:38.880
<v Speaker 3>was explained to us a little bit more back then

1:17:38.920 --> 1:17:41.160
<v Speaker 3>as we were going through, we would understand it other

1:17:41.280 --> 1:17:44.360
<v Speaker 3>than people feeling other than us feeling like artists, like, ah, well,

1:17:44.640 --> 1:17:46.400
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna get the big names and y'all just go

1:17:46.560 --> 1:17:47.120
<v Speaker 3>take the ride.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, here's the irony of all of the irony

1:17:50.400 --> 1:17:52.360
<v Speaker 8>of all of that name is the fact that, yes,

1:17:52.560 --> 1:17:55.000
<v Speaker 8>those guys wrote those songs and things that nature. And

1:17:55.120 --> 1:17:57.280
<v Speaker 8>this is no disrespect because there are records, so I

1:17:57.360 --> 1:18:02.040
<v Speaker 8>can't disrespect my all songs, but the biggest one was

1:18:02.080 --> 1:18:10.080
<v Speaker 8>written by us, right, so so you know, despite what

1:18:10.320 --> 1:18:14.719
<v Speaker 8>they thought, despite what they might have thought, we were.

1:18:14.720 --> 1:18:18.120
<v Speaker 5>Or what we needed or what we was always here.

1:18:18.960 --> 1:18:20.280
<v Speaker 5>It was always with us.

1:18:20.680 --> 1:18:24.080
<v Speaker 8>But they never wanted to see that, so they tried

1:18:24.160 --> 1:18:31.120
<v Speaker 8>to literally manipulate the situation to even make us think that, yo.

1:18:31.600 --> 1:18:35.720
<v Speaker 5>We y'all need them. And and it wasn't like it

1:18:35.880 --> 1:18:36.760
<v Speaker 5>wasn't a disrespect.

1:18:36.760 --> 1:18:40.160
<v Speaker 8>It's not a disrespect because we Uncle, Terry, Jimmy, Jeff

1:18:40.800 --> 1:18:43.840
<v Speaker 8>there are we love them, you understand, with all of

1:18:43.920 --> 1:18:44.439
<v Speaker 8>all our.

1:18:44.520 --> 1:18:46.639
<v Speaker 5>You know what I'm saying, we love Babyface with all

1:18:46.680 --> 1:18:47.240
<v Speaker 5>of our hearts.

1:18:47.280 --> 1:18:49.800
<v Speaker 8>So we understand that this was all a business move,

1:18:50.200 --> 1:18:53.439
<v Speaker 8>but at the same time one benefited a little bit

1:18:53.520 --> 1:18:57.479
<v Speaker 8>more than the other from that standpoint, And and me

1:18:57.640 --> 1:19:00.599
<v Speaker 8>being forty eight years oh, I'm under and and now

1:19:01.120 --> 1:19:05.360
<v Speaker 8>that life is all about relationships, Life is about growth,

1:19:05.680 --> 1:19:08.839
<v Speaker 8>Life is all about being able to develop and go from.

1:19:08.680 --> 1:19:11.760
<v Speaker 5>This point to that point, and we all need the.

1:19:11.880 --> 1:19:12.640
<v Speaker 3>Help to do it.

1:19:12.960 --> 1:19:17.400
<v Speaker 8>There's not anybody alive that has not become successful without

1:19:17.520 --> 1:19:20.120
<v Speaker 8>some sort of leg up by somebody that was in

1:19:20.200 --> 1:19:23.160
<v Speaker 8>a better position than them. So when I look back

1:19:23.240 --> 1:19:26.479
<v Speaker 8>at this, this was by design. They wanted us to

1:19:26.640 --> 1:19:29.679
<v Speaker 8>be here, stay here, and then they.

1:19:29.640 --> 1:19:32.479
<v Speaker 3>Want us to sing. That's all they wanted for them.

1:19:32.680 --> 1:19:34.439
<v Speaker 3>They didn't want us to dabble in too much. And

1:19:34.479 --> 1:19:37.880
<v Speaker 3>then it's been said a couple of times throughout. And

1:19:37.960 --> 1:19:40.000
<v Speaker 3>what made it even tougher was that even when we

1:19:40.080 --> 1:19:42.519
<v Speaker 3>tried to write and produce on somebody else, the name

1:19:42.640 --> 1:19:45.519
<v Speaker 3>of the group was so overshadowing that all people wanted

1:19:45.720 --> 1:19:48.120
<v Speaker 3>was I just want to hear y'all singing. Y'all do something.

1:19:48.479 --> 1:19:51.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't really want NAT's record, or vice versa. And

1:19:51.600 --> 1:19:53.519
<v Speaker 3>not that I don't like it, but I like this better.

1:19:53.840 --> 1:19:56.840
<v Speaker 3>And that's you know, it's a double ed sword. The

1:19:56.920 --> 1:20:00.240
<v Speaker 3>success is great, but you you, at some at that

1:20:00.360 --> 1:20:02.120
<v Speaker 3>point in our career we had to either live with

1:20:02.240 --> 1:20:03.639
<v Speaker 3>one or the other. We weren't going to be able

1:20:03.640 --> 1:20:04.120
<v Speaker 3>to get hot.

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<v Speaker 13>When it comes to the technical aspect of the creating

1:20:06.720 --> 1:20:08.679
<v Speaker 13>of a song, is it clear who's going to sing

1:20:08.800 --> 1:20:12.000
<v Speaker 13>what part? Because to me, like the three of you

1:20:12.120 --> 1:20:14.640
<v Speaker 13>have very similar voices and voice rangers. I know there

1:20:14.680 --> 1:20:17.840
<v Speaker 13>are different you know, uh strong suits for each of you.

1:20:17.920 --> 1:20:19.400
<v Speaker 13>But like when you're when you're writing a song and

1:20:19.439 --> 1:20:20.920
<v Speaker 13>you're creating it, it's it clear who's going to sing

1:20:20.960 --> 1:20:22.880
<v Speaker 13>what part. It's like it's like, Nate, you're gonna sing

1:20:22.920 --> 1:20:24.080
<v Speaker 13>the melody, Sean, You're gonna sing.

1:20:24.040 --> 1:20:28.640
<v Speaker 5>The Writing for my group is probably the easiest thing in.

1:20:28.640 --> 1:20:33.240
<v Speaker 14>The world because you can literally know, you know exactly

1:20:33.360 --> 1:20:35.760
<v Speaker 14>who does what that like you you don't even got

1:20:35.880 --> 1:20:39.800
<v Speaker 14>to like question or have a you know, tribunal about

1:20:39.880 --> 1:20:42.160
<v Speaker 14>who's going to sing this verse or that verse or whatever.

1:20:42.640 --> 1:20:45.280
<v Speaker 8>You know, who's going to sing it, who's going to

1:20:45.360 --> 1:20:48.040
<v Speaker 8>send it home? And then the harmonies is just something

1:20:48.120 --> 1:20:50.479
<v Speaker 8>that most people don't know how we do it, so.

1:20:50.600 --> 1:20:52.080
<v Speaker 3>We just do that like that.

1:20:52.240 --> 1:20:58.280
<v Speaker 1>But but I want to know silent night, Silent night

1:20:58.520 --> 1:21:01.439
<v Speaker 1>is that's how so here you guys the craft that

1:21:01.560 --> 1:21:04.280
<v Speaker 1>here's the deal is that everybody has their own style

1:21:04.320 --> 1:21:04.479
<v Speaker 1>with this.

1:21:05.720 --> 1:21:08.519
<v Speaker 3>The reason why I think that a lot of a

1:21:08.600 --> 1:21:11.640
<v Speaker 3>lot of it seems more difficult than it is a

1:21:11.720 --> 1:21:15.400
<v Speaker 3>lot of producers, I, Jimmy, Jame, Terry faces like working

1:21:15.479 --> 1:21:17.600
<v Speaker 3>with us because and this is not you know, not

1:21:17.720 --> 1:21:20.639
<v Speaker 3>trying to blow smoke in any way. But honestly, there's

1:21:20.840 --> 1:21:25.799
<v Speaker 3>not many songs that we can not sing because vocally

1:21:26.400 --> 1:21:31.280
<v Speaker 3>we cover the gamut from here to here. Whether it's

1:21:31.360 --> 1:21:35.040
<v Speaker 3>one guy, two guys, or whatever, we cover the whole spectrum.

1:21:35.080 --> 1:21:38.760
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna sing every single You can't, you can't out

1:21:38.840 --> 1:21:39.240
<v Speaker 3>key us.

1:21:39.840 --> 1:21:40.479
<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying.

1:21:40.680 --> 1:21:43.680
<v Speaker 3>You can't. Oh that's the wrong key. You can't. You

1:21:43.800 --> 1:21:47.559
<v Speaker 3>can't do that with us because vocally we just it's

1:21:47.680 --> 1:21:49.920
<v Speaker 3>it's all over the place. So with that being said,

1:21:50.400 --> 1:21:52.599
<v Speaker 3>like Shawn said, it's easy to write for us because

1:21:53.280 --> 1:21:56.559
<v Speaker 3>throw it against the wall. And to answer your second question,

1:21:57.160 --> 1:22:00.760
<v Speaker 3>because we grew up in a coral environment, we automatically

1:22:00.920 --> 1:22:04.600
<v Speaker 3>know where the parts fall. But even after that, what

1:22:05.120 --> 1:22:09.000
<v Speaker 3>made boys men different from just people singing chorl is

1:22:09.160 --> 1:22:11.360
<v Speaker 3>we moved out of that realm a little bit. So

1:22:11.960 --> 1:22:16.160
<v Speaker 3>if Win's background part is the first songs background part

1:22:16.200 --> 1:22:20.160
<v Speaker 3>is a second tenor, he'll start singing it and eventually

1:22:20.360 --> 1:22:23.439
<v Speaker 3>somewhere he'll end up on an alto second alto part,

1:22:24.080 --> 1:22:26.160
<v Speaker 3>and most people will say, well, he went out of

1:22:26.200 --> 1:22:28.920
<v Speaker 3>his range. He's got to stay there. He doesn't have

1:22:29.080 --> 1:22:33.719
<v Speaker 3>to because when he's singing that, Wan's already singing where

1:22:33.880 --> 1:22:37.320
<v Speaker 3>he left the spots open, right, and I'm already hearing

1:22:37.520 --> 1:22:40.360
<v Speaker 3>the spots that they both left open. So it's just

1:22:40.479 --> 1:22:45.080
<v Speaker 3>a mental to jump down place. It's like, I'm gonna

1:22:45.120 --> 1:22:48.360
<v Speaker 3>make it this simple. You ever have Connect four, You

1:22:48.439 --> 1:22:49.960
<v Speaker 3>know how when you drop the thing down and go

1:22:50.040 --> 1:22:53.120
<v Speaker 3>cock cook cook, cook cook, That's pretty much what it is.

1:22:53.280 --> 1:22:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Wherever that lands, you know when you drop the next

1:22:56.479 --> 1:22:58.880
<v Speaker 3>one where it's got to go to, you just know

1:22:58.960 --> 1:22:59.640
<v Speaker 3>where it's got to go.

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<v Speaker 7>And I'll be totally honest. And that's what I was

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<v Speaker 7>talking about earlier, is the magic. You know, the crazy

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<v Speaker 7>thing is is Okay, let's just say Sean's in the

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<v Speaker 7>vocal booth and I'm out in the lobby and Sean

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<v Speaker 7>sings his.

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<v Speaker 2>Note blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. He

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<v Speaker 2>sings his note.

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<v Speaker 7>When I come in and hear the note that Sean's doing,

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<v Speaker 7>I automatically know where I'm supposed to go.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not even a song that I ever heard before.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 7>So then I'll go in and I'll do my part,

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<v Speaker 7>and then I'll leave, then natle come in, and by

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<v Speaker 7>the time we finished it, it has turned into this place.

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<v Speaker 3>And it doesn't have to be in sequential order. One

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<v Speaker 3>could start, then I'll come in second, then Shawn will

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<v Speaker 3>come in, or I'll start, or vice versa. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>it's just a natural and you know, ability to just

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<v Speaker 3>feel what each guy the idea for that song is

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be. I mean it, And it hasn't even haven't

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<v Speaker 3>even gotten more difficult with three people because I was

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<v Speaker 3>doing both parts anyway, So it's just now it's just rapid.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just it's quicker actually.

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<v Speaker 13>And all actually, So the intention always to sound like

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<v Speaker 13>a choral group, or was the intention to sound like

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<v Speaker 13>I mean, look, I'm a white kid from Long Island.

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<v Speaker 13>I listened to voice to men religiously as forever and

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<v Speaker 13>I as from Africa this time, no fuck you.

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<v Speaker 3>But like, but.

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<v Speaker 13>What I'm fascinating by it is like I always felt

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<v Speaker 13>like you guys were four guys at the time, but

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<v Speaker 13>you sounded like about twenty and like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 13>I don't think that there was like ultimate stacking.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just like the the notes that you pill

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<v Speaker 1>and the way that you did it.

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<v Speaker 13>And I think what what I'm getting a Nate is

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<v Speaker 13>like what you said is like is when you would

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<v Speaker 13>get to someplace, you would hand it off to one

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<v Speaker 13>and Salent.

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<v Speaker 3>Night, Silent Night is the perfect example. And now I'm

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<v Speaker 3>grabbing me or mentioned because that's not normal, because because

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<v Speaker 3>we because we we what it is is that we

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<v Speaker 3>we sang some of it something like that in high school, right,

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<v Speaker 3>But what we did was we we added R and

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<v Speaker 3>B to it when we when we took it for

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<v Speaker 3>our own. And if you notice there are some chords

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<v Speaker 3>where literally, I mean you may have a second, a

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<v Speaker 3>third or seventh, it sounds like it's twelve people, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's not. And especially when you get to that that

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<v Speaker 3>quarter at the end, the that that that real big strong,

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<v Speaker 3>it sounds like it's fifteen people, but it's just the

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<v Speaker 3>notes that we chose and with Mike underneath of it,

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<v Speaker 3>which a lot of people never really had. You could

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<v Speaker 3>sing three notes and he would only be a fourth away,

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<v Speaker 3>but it would just make it sound like it's thirteen people.

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<v Speaker 13>But like was was was the was the intention always

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<v Speaker 13>like that cluster harmonies would be the thing I mean,

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<v Speaker 13>because like the gospel gospel for the record is like

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<v Speaker 13>it's more the qurt I'm getting real nerdy the course

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<v Speaker 13>out in gospel, right, it's like it's like rude fifth.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, like third above that.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, you guys, we intentionally did you don't want nobody

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<v Speaker 1>follow you and car Yeah, no, no, you're right right

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<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 8>We intentionally did that because one those progressions are boring

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<v Speaker 8>to us, Like they're boring, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, like.

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<v Speaker 5>To do one, three, five, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 8>It's like, okay, we do that, but there's so many

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<v Speaker 8>sweet spots in the seventh and then the thirteenth and

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<v Speaker 8>like in between and all those other you know, uh

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<v Speaker 8>sustained you know, chords and harmonies and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 8>So those sus chords and all that, So it so

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<v Speaker 8>to be able to do that was always the goal.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, we grew up on Take six and the

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<v Speaker 8>carpenters and and all those guys who did all of

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<v Speaker 8>that stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's what we grew up listening to, even before

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<v Speaker 5>we met each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so I was gonna ask because I didn't ask earlier.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Take six is an influence, but the intricate

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<v Speaker 1>level of of how you guys do your harmonies this

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<v Speaker 1>is Yeah, it's beyond that. Like was their influence from

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Wilson, like, who are your whore harmony gods?

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<v Speaker 3>Here's that I'm gonna tell you. Take six honestly is

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<v Speaker 3>the key. But the difference is when, like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>when you got six guys and they're moving pretty tight,

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<v Speaker 3>there's not There's not a whole lot of space for

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<v Speaker 3>a guy to sing a soprano party and end up

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<v Speaker 3>all the way down at the baritone because there's six

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<v Speaker 3>guys in there. But what we did was we tonally

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<v Speaker 3>we would listen to them because we knew we didn't

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<v Speaker 3>have six parts. We found the parts that made it

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<v Speaker 3>sound just like them without all six. Yeah, even if

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<v Speaker 3>you had to go from the top to the bottom,

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<v Speaker 3>just make that chord sound like their chord. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 3>what we would do. So we would jump all over

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<v Speaker 3>the place, we move right, so.

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<v Speaker 7>That they actually created those subscords in the middle and

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<v Speaker 7>then spread out to become something else.

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<v Speaker 1>So as three some as a threesome, do you guys

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<v Speaker 1>have the ability to recreate so much to say no,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just three people?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 8>But you know what, that's okay, because when you're listening

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<v Speaker 8>to an album, you just want to capture the moment.

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<v Speaker 8>You want to create the space, you want to create

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<v Speaker 8>the pain, and and that's all that matters. Like it's

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<v Speaker 8>three of us. But if we feel six parts, we're

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<v Speaker 8>gonna sing those six parts, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 8>because that's needed.

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<v Speaker 3>But I will say, but I will say, there are

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<v Speaker 3>things that can sound that strong with three people. And

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<v Speaker 3>I use I use our Star Spangled banner as an example. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>we used to sing that with four people. But again,

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<v Speaker 3>now that Mike's not here, we just took that other

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<v Speaker 3>leg and kind of folded it under. Yeah, put put

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<v Speaker 3>it put. We we took the meat of what we

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<v Speaker 3>needed to make it sonically sound the same way people

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<v Speaker 3>just jump in different spots to make it sonically sound

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<v Speaker 3>the same way. It's just not for people, and the

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<v Speaker 3>average ear is not going to hear when that one

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<v Speaker 3>note is not. When you got a triad and it's

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<v Speaker 3>a triad of a maybe a fifth or third and

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<v Speaker 3>a seventh, you're not worried about what the other note

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<v Speaker 3>was because it was probably unison with any other group anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>You're only focusing on that. So we make sure we

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<v Speaker 3>give you that, and then we'll peel one off to

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<v Speaker 3>where it feels like it's open, and then we'll bring

1:29:26.080 --> 1:29:28.760
<v Speaker 3>them back in. So it's ways to twist it. Like

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<v Speaker 3>Sean said, Obviously, records give us a lot more flexibility,

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<v Speaker 3>but if we have to narrow it down, that's normally

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<v Speaker 3>how we'll do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So what happens if a member has laryngitis.

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<v Speaker 5>Or which carts that's happened?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And how long does it take you to just

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<v Speaker 1>even when Mike had to leave the group, how how

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<v Speaker 1>much work and adjustment did you have to do to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out how to how to cover what was missing.

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<v Speaker 8>It's literally us being backstage or somewhere and just arranging

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<v Speaker 8>it mentally, preparing ourselves because you know when you're when

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<v Speaker 8>you're when you're doing someone else's part, you're doing someone

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<v Speaker 8>else's character. That that a lot of people understand that, Yo,

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<v Speaker 8>that's Yanye sing. So there's no way I'm gonna sing

1:30:20.280 --> 1:30:23.800
<v Speaker 8>like Kuan Ye so because he puts a stamp on

1:30:23.960 --> 1:30:27.600
<v Speaker 8>everything that he sings, so there has to be a

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<v Speaker 8>way to get around it.

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<v Speaker 5>So you just make a way around it.

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<v Speaker 8>And you know, obviously it's not gonna sound like Kanye,

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<v Speaker 8>but we try our best for us not to suck.

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<v Speaker 5>And and and and if if it doesn't suck, then

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<v Speaker 5>that's good enough.

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<v Speaker 8>And and honestly, we have the type of fans and

1:30:45.680 --> 1:30:47.840
<v Speaker 8>people that we can be on stage to say, yo,

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<v Speaker 8>man wayu's got langitis.

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<v Speaker 5>He's here, he's here, Guys, he's here. He's gonna sing

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<v Speaker 5>his best for you.

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<v Speaker 3>And people know what.

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<v Speaker 8>They hear it, they see it. They hate se am struggling,

1:31:01.000 --> 1:31:03.559
<v Speaker 8>or they see me struggling or whatever. We'll sing their

1:31:03.640 --> 1:31:09.000
<v Speaker 8>parts and they sing our sing our parts too. So

1:31:09.160 --> 1:31:11.760
<v Speaker 8>we have that type of like people have seen us

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<v Speaker 8>enough to know that.

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<v Speaker 5>We can sing.

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<v Speaker 8>That's never been a doubt or question. So when somebody

1:31:17.600 --> 1:31:20.439
<v Speaker 8>has an off day, we just have an off day,

1:31:20.960 --> 1:31:23.639
<v Speaker 8>and our people understand it. And we just go about

1:31:23.680 --> 1:31:25.759
<v Speaker 8>the show and we do it and our people.

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<v Speaker 3>Ride with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen. Sorry to do it to you, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know we're gonna have to cut it short right now,

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<v Speaker 1>or trust me, we'll be back next week with more

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