WEBVTT - Some Time With... Devon Odessa! 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:22.960 Hey, fantos, welcome back to how Rude Tanertos. Today, we 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:26.440 are so excited to welcome a guest who we have 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:30.480 fangirled over since the nineties. Do you remember the groundbreaking 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:34.720 TV series My So Called Life. Like many teens in 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:38.000 that era, we were huge fans of the one. 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:40.080 And only Devin Odessa. 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:43.720 Not only did Devin star in that iconic TV series, 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:46.920 she also guest starred on Full House, Step by Step, 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:48.320 The Wonder Years. 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:51.760 And many more projects you're bound to recognize. So let's 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:56.480 give a warm welcome to devn. Yeah, I'm so excited. 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:00.279 You know what's funny is I actually like people like 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:02.320 talk to me about being on Full House still to 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:04.000 like this day, I just had that. 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:08.039 Little tiny part episode. It's great. But your show, I. 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:10.759 Think is like, you know, it was so popular that 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:13.319 so many people have seen it and they still watch it, 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:14.680 right like the. 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:16.720 Oh yeah, yeah. 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:19.640 We started this podcast because we had never watched it. 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:23.240 Apparently we were the last two or three people on 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:26.560 earth that like hadn't watched Full House, so we were like, 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:29.440 we should go back and watch it as adults and 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:30.280 take a. 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:31.360 Trip down memory lane. 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:36.000 But yeah, people, I mean, like they know this show 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:36.880 Inside and Out. 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:39.800 Yeah, yeah, we did school on a regular basis. 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:42.560 And I feel like the episode you were on the 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:46.560 Pirate Restaurant is sort of an iconic episode because it 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:49.600 was just that whole Those scenes were so outlandish. 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:53.160 They're so outlandish, and my cousins were in that scene. 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:55.960 Oh they were. My cousin Shane. 0:01:55.880 --> 0:02:00.360 Is the one who sneezed on the spaghetti funny and 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:03.640 my cousin Shane just got announced this week he is 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:07.000 now taking over as the CEO of the American Cancer Society, 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:08.600 So yay Shane Jacobson. 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:10.519 He was also he just left. 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:13.000 He was the CEO at the v Foundation, which was 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:17.200 working with Dave and Mel and Mel doing some stuff 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:20.919 on cancer research, also with the NHL. So anyway, weird 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:25.400 random around the way thing. But yes, I remember that 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:28.440 Pirate episode well because a family was. 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:31.400 On it and it was really fun, so great. 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:35.840 So I that that was the first time I was 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:37.600 ever just offered a role. 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:40.519 And it was. 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:44.400 So I had just auditioned for Jeff Franklin for a 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:46.680 pilot and we tested and you know how like you 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:48.400 go back then like the nineties, it was. 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:50.600 Like audition after Yeah, it was it was like the 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:53.320 you know, seven Circles of Hell to get to the 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:57.080 Grand Boss that you know, the yeah that you had 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:57.480 an audition. 0:02:57.639 --> 0:02:59.600 Yeah, but he was actually he was so nice and 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:01.919 they were all so nice. And I didn't get the 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:06.360 pilot that they were casting. But then like two or three, 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:08.080 and I was super bombed because I was like young, 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:09.959 and it was on a kid's show that goes a 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:11.799 whole bunch of other kids and they mixed and mashes 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:13.720 and you know, it's like they had two groups. 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:15.480 Gonna be great. Yeah, it's gonna be so fun. 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:20.040 But then they he my agent called and the go 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:22.320 but they offered you a guest spot on Full House. 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:24.000 And that was the very first time I was ever 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:26.680 just like offered something, even though he had just seen 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:27.560 me like a bunch of times. 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:31.280 Yeah, of course other show. But it was so fun. 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:33.000 It was like such a gift. You know. It's a 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:36.280 good little more albums, you know Jeff is Yeah. 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:37.680 And Jeff is really good like that like if he 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:41.480 you know, he he's like kind in that way and 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:43.040 that it's like, you know what, actually, I want to 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:44.960 I liked this first, and I want to give them 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:45.360 a chance. 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:47.200 Like he really he's always been really great with that. 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.360 Yeah, it was super he was super duper nice. And 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:56.160 I remember, I remember how funny everybody was on that show. 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:59.960 Like we would we waited right outside of the Pirate Center, 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:00.960 you know, like we were right. 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:04.200 On side right then, like we would enter, and then they. 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:07.680 Were just like everybody was so funny on your show, 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:10.360 like all the adult actors, like they would just oh 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:13.600 my god, crack so many jokes, and they were it 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:14.360 was just like. 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:16.719 A party the whole time. You know. 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.000 Yep, they just were so funny. But I don't I 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:20.320 don't didn't get to talk to you guys how much 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:20.640 because you. 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.680 Guys were in school, you know that's true. Yeah, yeah, 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:26.440 we didn't. There wasn't much hanging out back then, you know. 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:28.760 I mean, when you're a kid actor, you're like, I'm 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.200 either on set or I'm in school pretty much, that's 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:32.640 my two options for sure. 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:34.920 And I also remember the other thing I remember is 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:38.520 with the Olsen Twins, And I'd never experienced this before, 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:42.120 where you guys would be filming and then all of 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:46.240 a sudden, you would just pause and then somebody would 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:49.880 like the I guess, like the you know coach where 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:53.240 Adria I would like say the line and then they 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:56.719 would just like completely mimic the line whoever, whichever, whichever 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:57.719 girl was on or whatever. 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:00.920 And I thought that was so interesting. I've never seen anything. 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:02.360 And then they would like start filming again. 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:04.440 That was just because I'd never worked with such young 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:06.680 kids before, and I thought it was just really it 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.080 was really interesting to work on your show, like I 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:09.479 thought it was. 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:11.720 It was super fun. But I learned a lot too. 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:12.680 Oh yeah, for sure. 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:16.760 We definitely had quite a few tricks and things going on. 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:18.000 But you know what I mean that people were like, 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.239 how did they memorize those lines? You're like it, actually, 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:22.560 it was not like that at all. Yeah. 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:25.120 It took about three times to film everything, three times 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:26.040 longer to film everything. 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:29.479 Yeah, I think it was good at mimicking. They were 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:30.520 for sure. 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:33.200 How their coach like when they would give them the 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.440 line reading, they just did it like it was amazing. 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:38.560 Wow. Yeah, but they oh yeah, it was very impressive. 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:40.720 But I remember them telling me, okay, just or they 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:42.440 told all of us whoever else. We were like, you 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.200 just know, talking to them, You're not allowed to talk 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:45.680 to them. 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:46.400 So distracting. 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:50.920 Yeah, yeah, distract Yeah, because they were three or four 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:53.520 and they get distracted easily, and yeah, yeah. 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:56.440 And I also think that, you know, probably some people 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:59.440 were such fans of the show that they might like. 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:03.599 You know, try to interact with them. Yeah, maybe or something. 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:05.680 But I was just like, oh yeah, don't worry, I'm good, 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:09.159 I'm just here for the ride. It was like, but 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:12.000 it was super fun and just man, they were so 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:14.000 funny and I had to like keep a straight face 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:18.040 and I was laughing so hard off state because everybody 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:19.960 was so so funny. 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:24.200 Oh yeah, it was impossible to get through a scene 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:27.000 with if Bob and Dave were there and involved, it 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.479 was I mean, going off the rails. 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:31.919 Show was definitely because I think it was mainly just 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:33.360 like Bob and I right outside. 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:35.040 I think he entered first and then I had inner. 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:36.400 But I mean I would just. 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:38.960 Be like trying to get it together before my friends 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.560 because he was so funny. 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:45.080 Oh yeah, yeah, they get they helped out not at all. 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:46.240 You know. 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:48.000 The kids, we were like we had to be more 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:49.839 together than the than the adults. 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:51.120 Yeah. Sure, hard. 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:52.440 I mean, like, I guess I don't know how many 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:56.320 like emotional scenes and stuff, but like to you know, 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:58.480 when you're working with people that are so fun and 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:00.440 so funny. I always you know, I don't know, it 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:02.760 just must have been hard sometimes too, if you did. 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:05.800 You have to do that many emotional scenes. Yeah, you know, 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:06.359 we did. 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:10.800 But I think because like, like I was also really 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:13.400 close with Bob and his family outside of the show 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:16.080 and Dave and you know, because we also were kind 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:18.680 of a family, I think as much fun as we 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:22.440 had together, we could tap into those moments of real 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:28.000 like emotion and tenderness and quiet and then like probably 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:31.160 crrect jokes about all the time because I probably laughing. Yeah, 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.960 I mean those also those scenes were probably rare, and 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:37.160 usually those scenes involved one adult and a child, and 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:41.320 so usually as the kids, we were maintaining the professionalism. 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:43.400 Yeah. No, it was basically Bob and Dave were in 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.280 the scene together. Forget it, it was done. 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:47.600 That was it. There was somebody was cracking a joke 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:48.320 or doing something. 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:49.560 Well, they would feed off each other. 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:52.040 They were trying to out laugh each other or out 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.920 joke each other, and so oh wow, joke each other. 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.240 Yeah, Dave would start doing something and then Bob was like. 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.120 Wait, wait, wait, wait, look at me, look at it, 0:07:59.200 --> 0:07:59.440 you know. 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:01.680 And it was just to escalate from there, but it was, 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:04.280 like you said, the best environment to work. 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:06.040 It was so much, so much fun. 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.400 So this was season five, so full House was pretty 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:11.520 big at this point, like we were kind of in 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:12.080 our heyday. 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:15.040 Had you seen the show before? Were you intimidated to 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:17.560 come on our set? Was it? Oh? Yeah, no, I 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:19.560 definitely seen. You know, it's like back then. 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:22.480 I think that's like the beautiful thing of youth is like, 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:24.960 you're not really I wasn't intimidated because I was just 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.240 so excited to get to work on it, you know, 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:31.800 especially after not getting that one pilot. 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:35.400 I was like so sad. And then and I and 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:40.440 my best friend Stacy Keenan, who also yeah, we've been 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:43.280 best friends since I was so she was eleven and 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:47.040 I was twelve. Okay, very long time, still best friends. 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:51.760 She also never watched her show until doing the podcast 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:53.600 and then she and Christina or. 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:54.280 Doing it now too. 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:59.080 Yeah, and and but it, you know, everybody was so 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:02.960 nice and so welcoming that I think even if I 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:05.880 was at all intimidated, it was like right away gone 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.280 because everybody was just so nice. It was such a 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:10.920 was it seemed like a really wonderful place to work, 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:14.160 Like everybody was super kind and really fun and a 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.240 really happy place. And it's not always like that, you know, 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:18.280 sometimes you work on shows where it's a different vibe. 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:22.280 Yeah, we've we've realized how rare that is and how 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:24.880 lucky we thought that this is how sets are growing up, 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:26.040 We had any. 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:29.520 Different right, and I've had the good fortune to not 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.319 like just really enjoy most of the people and the 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:35.360 crews that I've worked with, never had really anybody problematic, 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:39.360 And I'm like, oh, so that's like not everybody, you know. 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.600 We just, like I always say, we're very lucky. 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:47.160 We grew up in kind of the ideal child star 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:50.480 environment because it was work and there was a lot 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:52.880 you had to get done, but also it was really fun. 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:54.320 Yeah, I did it. Really. 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:55.640 I've worked on a show which were it was a 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:58.160 half hour show and I won't mention what the name 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:00.360 of the show was, and I just came in forget spots. 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:02.080 So it was the same kind of thing, but the 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:05.880 lead actors didn't talk to each other, and I was explained. 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:09.360 I was like, I don't know. Somewhere between fifteen and seventeen, 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:11.880 I was still in high school, and I remember it 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.480 was really interesting, like there was a couple of younger 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:16.240 actors who are on the show who were super nice 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:18.040 and we had it was great. But some of the 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:19.599 older actors who I just happened to be in the 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:22.320 scene with, like the a D. Like they would talk 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:24.000 to the a D and then the AD would talk 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.920 to the other actors. They were like right next to 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:28.960 each other because like they didn't talk, Like, yeah, it 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.880 was weird. So I feel like some I feel like 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:35.360 I've been Everybody was nice to me, but I got 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:37.880 to kind of see that dynamic and I was like, oh, 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:40.000 you know, yeah, and that was Yeah. 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:42.839 I definitely you see the dynamics sometimes with somebody or 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:43.320 in like how. 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:45.480 Though you know, and you're like, oh, oh boy. 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:48.400 Yeah, I've been very very lucky as well, Like I've 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:53.040 really only worked on really fun jobs, you know, my career, 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:54.000 which is really nice. 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.960 How old were you when you started your career, I mean, 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:01.839 were you like like a little or were you more 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:03.480 eleven ish? 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:03.959 Yeah? 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:06.000 So I would come visit I'm from West Virginia, so 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:07.720 and my mom lived out here first, so I'd come 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:10.000 visit my mom and like I would then I got 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:11.319 she got me an agent, and I would do like 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.679 commercials and stuff when I was a little bit like 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:18.880 you know, young, like not middle school, like right before 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:20.640 middle school, maybe fifth there's some script. 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:24.040 Book, yeah yeah, yeah. And then and then. 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.160 I started working more in middle school and I actually 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:29.000 went to a public high school and they were going 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:30.600 to kick me out because I worked too many. 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.920 Days and they were like with lust. They're like, well, 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:35.480 you're gonna have to do home school. And I'm always like, 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:37.880 oh right, you have to do them, yeah, you know, 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:39.200 and that terrified my mom. 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:40.959 So I ended up then going when I was time 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:42.760 for high school because that all kind of happened in 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:43.520 like eighth grade. 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:46.600 And then ninth grade rolled around and I went. 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:48.600 To a private high school because I needed to work, 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:50.719 you know, because it worked too many hours, which is 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:51.920 kind of interesting that they. 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:52.600 Don't let you do that. 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:57.079 But yeah, now there's a it's a whole like program 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:00.280 for yeah, if you're like working kids basically, I mean, 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:02.040 it's so prevalent here in LA that. 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:05.120 There's like a whole thing for it. So yeah, like 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:06.040 so like middle. 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.079 School and then and then I would just you know, 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:10.440 I did like lots of guest spots, some pilots, stuff 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:10.719 like that. 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:12.840 And then for me really when I got my so 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:13.480 called life. 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:17.280 I deferred from college for a year, and that's when 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.760 I got my so called life, and that really like 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:23.920 changed a lot of stuff because it it it only 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:26.280 went one season, but we were put on hold a bunch, 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:28.199 and so I did a whole other show in between. 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:29.560 Like we did the pilot and we were on hold 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:31.000 for a year that we did like six episodes and 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:32.959 we were on hold, and then we did. 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:34.560 Nine more episodes and we were on hold. So it 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:40.320 took like years to like just like to do one season, right. 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:45.920 But but but yeah, so so that's when I i'd like, 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:48.480 you know, before I just I work some like guess, 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:50.400 but I always worked more in the summertime because there 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:52.680 was less stress because I was really academic. So I like, 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:54.559 you know, would have to go on auditions. Do you 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:56.200 just remember that, like your parents like pick you up 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:58.760 from school and you'd have like clothes in the car 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:02.680 one audition to the other audition to the other audition. 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:04.440 I look back, and I'm like, I can't, Like that 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:05.360 is crazy. 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.400 Yeah, we always joke about, you know, like and we 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:10.360 both grew up in Orange County, so we you know, 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:13.160 we did the drive like back and forth, although to 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:16.079 be fair, like starting at five, I was doing full house, 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:17.480 so I had a little bit more of a schedule. 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:20.200 But you know, there was definitely a lot of back 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:23.559 and forth on freeways and auditioning, uh and reading of 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:24.240 Thomas Guides. 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:26.800 That's our joke always that we could read. 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:28.840 We we know we'll survive the apocalypse because we can 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:29.320 read a map. 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:29.760 Yes. 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.920 I had the most amazing Thomas Guide. It was like 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:35.680 it was covered in this. Each page was covered in 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:40.040 this like plastic. Oh yeah yeah, and then like it was. 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:42.240 It made it so nice because you really mainly use 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.239 just certain pages like that's. 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:50.040 Where right right, basically everything around like Losiena and Olympic Yeah. 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:53.760 And so so yeah, I mean I loved my Thomas Guide. 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:56.480 Man, I know my kids were so old. 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.720 Yeah, but that was I mean that that was sort 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:01.840 of the the up and down, you know, the freeways 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:02.160 of it all. 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:04.640 What was your what was your first job? So my 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.800 very first job was Punky Bruce. 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:12.640 Yes, we love it so and it was just I 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:17.400 auditioned for like Punky and then I did not get 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:19.360 Punky obviously. 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:19.840 So. 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:29.240 Shocking and in some timeline in the university. 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:31.040 Somewhere else, No, and then I got a like a 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:34.400 little tiny, itty bitty little part they gave me and said, 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:36.400 which was like really sweet, like I auditioned for it whatever. 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:39.440 And then and then my my most like my first 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:43.640 like kind of bigger role was a movie called Pumpkin Hill. Yes, 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:47.320 and it was like a scary movie and that was 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:49.240 with mine and be All, like we played sisters and 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:49.680 a couple. 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:52.440 It was like it was very fun. So that was 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:54.680 really fun. Yeah, it was. We had a good time 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:55.240 on that. 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:57.160 So it was when my first and then some commercials 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:59.680 I had some I did commercials, a lot of commercials. 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:03.840 Comemercials were important back then. They were very important. Commercials 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:06.680 were commercials were you're red butter that everybody loved getting 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:07.760 a commercial. They really were. 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.920 And on my very first commercial that I got, it 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:15.000 was a it was for Frigidaire and so it was 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:16.480 and I'm from West Virginia on a farm. 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:16.800 Okay. 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:19.360 So in the commercial they're like, okay, so we're gonna 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.560 you're you're you're in the house and your dad's in 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:24.360 the barn. So I need you to just yell dad, 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:26.080 we need more eggs. This was like the callback for 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:28.120 the commercial, and I was like, okay, so in my 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:30.320 head where our houses and. 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:33.080 Where the barn is? It's yell, real loud. 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:37.600 I well, yeah, so a barn is a distance from 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:39.240 a house usually, right. 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:43.040 So and he said yell, so you know, all these 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:44.480 other people have been auditioning whatever. 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:46.200 And then like I go in and then my mom 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:51.040 is out there hearing me yella, I mean at the 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:54.480 top of my lungs. Okay, and then I and then 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:56.880 my Mom's like what nobody else was yelling and I 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:59.080 was like I'm oh no. And they didn't redirect me. 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:01.560 They were just like right right, thank you, you know. 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:03.920 I was like okay. And then and then when I 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:05.720 went in for the wartere fitting, they were like, oh, 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:07.840 you're the one. You're the one with the lungs. You're 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:09.640 the ones that yelled. Because it was like a little 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:13.840 family and it was right right right, said call to 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.680 the barn. The barn is not right, but it's not 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:20.400 an attached barn, you know. It's like, yeah, it was 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:23.920 pretty funny. So now it's like my first commercial, noble commercial. Really, 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:26.880 I mean, man, I paid many many bills with commercials. 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.000 I was going to say, yeah, the days of a 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:30.800 nice you know, national yea, and think. 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:31.240 It was funny. 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:33.640 A lot of times people would think, oh, I remember 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:35.120 I did a Disneyland commercial and they're like, oh, you 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.560 must need so much money on that commercial. But because 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:40.280 it played a ton, but it only played for a 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:41.160 short amount of time. 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:42.960 So commercials that. 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:44.720 Like play for a short amount of time, even if 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:47.960 they play so much like probably you know, like those 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:50.000 super Bowl commercials or whatever, it's like unless you're a 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.120 big star, but if you're just like one of the 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:54.160 people doing the commercial, that's it only plays for a 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:54.920 little bit of time, so you. 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:57.240 Really for a little bit. Yeah, exactly, true, very limit 0:16:57.600 --> 0:16:58.160 that much money. 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:01.080 But I had a friend who was in that milk 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:02.840 does commercial. Do you remember that milk it does? 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:05.359 Oh yeah, it does a body? Milk it does a body. 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:08.240 She made so much money because they kept holding it 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:10.199 and it was like they would play it and then 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.640 holding feet, then play it then holding feet and don't mean. 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:15.280 We're the days of holding fees. Yeah. 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:18.760