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Speaker 1: Stay tuned.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into the conversation right after these quick ass.

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Speaker 1: Kay, rain drop, it's a fan favorite. Kate Casey, I'm back, Kate.

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Speaker 1: We just got to get right into it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming back to the podcast.

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Speaker 2: You are one of the most requested guests that I

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Speaker 2: have and I could not do this recap of the

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Speaker 2: Real Housewives of Billy Hills reunion and the whole season

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Speaker 2: as a whole with anyone else but you.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, that makes me so happy. I could cry.

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Speaker 2: Well, don't cry like Kyle Richards did on the part

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Speaker 2: three of the reunion. So we just got to get

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Speaker 2: right into it.

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Speaker 1: Kate. Yes, I believe.

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Speaker 2: Everything Lisa Renna said and Erica said about Kathy in

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Speaker 2: the sense of what she said.

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Speaker 1: Listen, unpopular opinion.

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Speaker 2: I do believe that allegedly Kathy allegedly said the F

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Speaker 2: word begins with an F ends with the T. I

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Speaker 2: believe she said it. I believe she said it. And

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Speaker 2: this is the crazy part. I think Kathy fans are

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Speaker 2: just going to turn a blind eye and because they

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Speaker 2: hate Lisa Renna so much, And we'll get into her

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Speaker 2: credibility in a second. Because Lisa Renner was a flop

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Speaker 2: this reunion. I don't think a lot of people are

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Speaker 2: going to believe otherwise.

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Speaker 1: When it comes to Kathy Hilton.

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Speaker 3: Well, first I have to say, if you're hiring a

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Speaker 3: like a high powered attorney like Marty Singer, there's got

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Speaker 3: to be something in the water, right. Yes, no one's

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Speaker 3: going to pay that hourly rate and do that much

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Speaker 3: say that first.

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Speaker 1: And just on my listeners.

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Speaker 2: No, Marty Singer is a high powered attorney. He's a litigator.

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Speaker 2: So when celebrities are going through a crisis or a situation,

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Speaker 2: they hire Marty Singer, who's very tough, and he usually

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Speaker 2: makes things go away allegedly.

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Speaker 3: But I also think many things can be true at

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Speaker 3: one time. And I think that the reason that people

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Speaker 3: are maybe a little bit more lenient on Kathy is

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Speaker 3: because there her story with Kyle represents so many other

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Speaker 3: people's personal stories. So that is that sometimes you're you're

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Speaker 3: clouded by your own life experiences when you watch some

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Speaker 3: of these shows. That is why I think this season

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Speaker 3: has been so good, is that the layer of the

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Speaker 3: sisters has made this show all the more relatable. That said,

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Speaker 3: I also think that Lisa probably exaggerated other things that

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Speaker 3: happened that night. Yes, so I think all many things

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Speaker 1: No, I could not agree more.

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Speaker 2: And listen, this is the problem that I have with

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Speaker 2: Lisa Rena. I think Lisaena, at one point in time

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Speaker 2: was fun to watch, very delicious in her sneaky way

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Speaker 2: of breaking up stories, you know, alleging that people were

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Speaker 2: doing cochin Dured's bathroom. You know, let's talk about the

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Speaker 2: husbands and through a drink at Kim Richards like. It

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Speaker 2: was all interesting and funny to me, right. I think

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Speaker 2: the reason why Lisa Renna had the worst season ever

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Speaker 2: on The Real Houseboss of Billy Hills is because she

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Speaker 2: was too busy performing like it was the Days of

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Speaker 2: Our Lives reboot on Peacock correct.

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Speaker 1: And this is my opinion.

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Speaker 2: I believe she over exaggerated her feelings about what she

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Speaker 2: witnessed with Kathy to use the words abuse her. I

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Speaker 2: didn't feel safe. I was feared for my life. She's like,

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Speaker 2: It's like was was Kathy Hilton playing the role of

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Speaker 1: Like did he do? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: It was so weird and although I believe that there's

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Speaker 2: again believes that Lisa Renna said things that were true

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Speaker 3: Agreed. I also think that people don't like to see

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Speaker 3: I'll also say that I think that the audience to

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Speaker 3: I really don't know anything about Lisa Rena.

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Speaker 2: Now, the only thing I know about Lisa Rena is

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Speaker 2: Harry makes great spaghetti sauce, that she rents her clothing.

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Speaker 2: Now that Erica Jane came on the show and all

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Speaker 2: the girls steps of their fashions, no shade is true,

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Speaker 1: That's it. I'm at a loss for words.

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Speaker 2: And you're so genius, Kate, in the sense of if

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Speaker 2: to at least be messy and giving us the mess

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Speaker 1: Own fucking life. Correct, And she hasn't done that.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's the problem that people are having

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Speaker 2: the table and not show any mess in her life.

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Speaker 2: Because my thing is this, I still need to know

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Speaker 2: what Kim Richards was alluding to when she said, let's

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Speaker 2: talk about the husbands, right, and for Lisa Renna to

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Speaker 2: have that reaction, there is something going on in that

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 3: Also the way that she went after Garcel about you know,

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Speaker 3: you don't bring up our children. It was an agreement.

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Speaker 3: Garcel just referenced something that happened on the television show

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Speaker 3: that they're filming in her book, and Garcel so generously

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Speaker 3: went out of her way to take it out of

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Speaker 3: I mean that was pretty generous. Probably cost her extra money,

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Speaker 3: by the way, and Lisa is just not even She

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Speaker 3: didn't even say thank you for it. But the way

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Speaker 3: that she went after about you don't talk about our

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Speaker 3: can't talk about her children. What the hell can you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, miss, let's talk about it. You better believe or

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Speaker 1: going to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: If you are going to be somebody messy, you have

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Speaker 2: The reason why the audience has this love hate relationship

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Speaker 2: know you are, in order for you to have sustainability

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Speaker 1: Have to let us in more.

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Speaker 2: And when you tell Andy to put you on pause,

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Speaker 2: and I can't believe I'm saying this. I think Lisa

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Speaker 3: And before I pause, I agree the way that she

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Speaker 3: I think that the audience also rejects. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: Like that, right, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: And so when it's so overt, I think it puts

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Speaker 3: have said to her, either you have to expose more

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, I think she got to cocky. I think because

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Speaker 2: she listened. One thing about your podcast, Kate that I

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Speaker 3: Also, there's too much stuff going on off camera with

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Speaker 3: feel like as silly as it may seem like in

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Speaker 3: But when you find out that they're dming with Instagram

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Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: And one thing that we must address is the fact

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Speaker 2: that on Teddy Mellencamp's podcast with Tamra Judge, she revealed

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Speaker 2: Kate and I think you may have heard this too,

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Speaker 2: that the fourth Fox five group chat has not been

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Speaker 1: That Kyle.

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Speaker 2: And Lisa and Erica their pretty much are not on

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Speaker 3: I'm not surprised. I mean, I was surprised they even

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Speaker 1: It's wild, No, it's it's not fascinating.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the fascinating thing about this Housewives world is that

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Speaker 3: That said Kyle needs to leave the show's and here's why. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: She should leave do the Netflix show say goodbye to housewives?

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Speaker 3: Most of these housewives don't know when to walk away. True,

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Speaker 2: Who I hate to interrupt, but stay tuned for more.

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back after these quick ass This is

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Speaker 2: reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get

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Speaker 2: back into the show. Okay, listen, I think you just

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Speaker 2: Riches fan. But I got to ask you to more questions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is Kyle making appearances on this Netflix show?

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Speaker 3: She and the first season, she's barely on it, and

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Speaker 3: I think it would add so much value to that

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Speaker 2: My second question, can the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

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Speaker 3: I think every show can survive without someone Come on, now,

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Speaker 3: you don't. There's not one person. And people thought Atlanta

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Speaker 3: People think that New Jersey can't survive without Teresa. Let

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Speaker 3: Women in the show. It's the show is relying on

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Speaker 1: Oh oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Now I interviewed Jay Edelson, who's the lawyer that sued Erica,

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Speaker 2: So wait, so you did an exclusive interview on your

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Speaker 3: Yes, I've had that lawyer on a couple times and

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Speaker 3: I had him come back to tell me, like an

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Speaker 3: I asked him, can you tell me anything about what

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Speaker 3: not filming, her demeanor completely changes, which I thought was interesting.

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Speaker 3: Another thing he said was that she's always saying like that,

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Speaker 3: you know, it was the end of their marriage, and

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Speaker 3: that she was intimating like she never speaks to him.

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Speaker 3: I know that. In the reunion, she said, well, he

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Speaker 3: calls me, but he's so out of it and it's

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Speaker 3: like blah blah blah, and it's do I speak to

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Speaker 3: him out of humanity? Is what she said. But what

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Speaker 3: Jay tells me is that they have records of her

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Speaker 3: being at meetings at the firm, and they have reason

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Speaker 3: to believe and to prove that they have been in

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Speaker 3: communication and he may have even been giving her legal advice.

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Speaker 2: Now, look, I will say this as a viewer of

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Speaker 2: the Real Housewives of Billy Hills. We talked about how

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Speaker 2: last season when they were on the cast trip, and

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Speaker 2: I believe they were at Kyle's vacation home. And one

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Speaker 2: of the things that was so fascinating was the fact

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Speaker 2: that Erica had a strong reaction when guard Silver Reville

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Speaker 2: that her and Tom still talk, yes, And there was

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Speaker 2: something about that reaction that made me believe, hmm, it

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Speaker 2: appears that you did not want that to come out.

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Speaker 2: You were going off script at this time and it

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Speaker 2: could not affect your case. So the fact that all

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Speaker 2: of this is going down is going to be interesting.

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Speaker 2: And before I let you go, we got to talk

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Speaker 2: about the future of the Real Housewives of belly Hills

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Speaker 2: because looking at what next season can be, are we

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Speaker 2: going to hear more about the Giralde case based on

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Speaker 2: your conversation with the attorney? And do you think that

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Speaker 2: Denise and Teddy Mellacamp or Brandy Glanville should come back

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Speaker 2: to the show so that we can talk about something

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Speaker 2: new outside.

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Speaker 1: Of this case.

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Speaker 3: I would say that their best bet is definitely to

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Speaker 3: follow the lead of other shows and to bring somebody

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Speaker 3: in from the past. I think Denise Richards and Brandy

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Speaker 3: would absolutely be great. I don't know about Camille. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if she fits in as well. She's kind

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Speaker 3: of like to Stale. I don't think that if well.

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Speaker 3: In my opinion, Kyle shouldn't come back. And I think

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Speaker 3: the only way Teddy works is if Kyle is on screen. Agreed,

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Speaker 3: So I would say Brandy and Denise for the win,

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Speaker 3: and I think it could be just as much magic.

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Speaker 1: So name your cas for next season of Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 1: Name yours and I'll name mine.

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Speaker 3: Although I do think what Lisa does need a break,

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Speaker 3: or maybe what they just do is just hold off

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Speaker 3: on filming for a couple months, you know, just to

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Speaker 3: like air it out. I would say, bring Kathy in

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Speaker 3: his full time, but the condition that you have Kim

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Speaker 3: come as a friend, and you have to I want

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Speaker 3: to see more of Kim versus Lisa after Lisa takes

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Speaker 3: a little bit of a break, right, I'd like to

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Speaker 3: see Denise and Erica, and I would like to see

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Speaker 3: Brandy because I feel like Brandy is the only person

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Speaker 3: that will actually stand up to Erica. And then Sutton

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Speaker 3: and Garcel actually make you feel like these are two

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Speaker 3: good friends and they I think they bring some humanity

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Speaker 3: to the show.

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Speaker 1: I agree. So would you get rid of Chrystal? Oh?

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Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, I would. Well, I mean, I really like her,

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Speaker 3: and I think she's fun to watch, and I like

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Speaker 3: the personal story. And I think that the fact that

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Speaker 3: she's brought attention to eating disorders, especially on as part

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Speaker 3: of a show where undoubtedly so many of these women

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Speaker 3: have dysmorphia or eating disorders, I think that's a really

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Speaker 3: important conversation to have. I don't know, why can't you

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Speaker 3: have a show where you have like four leads and

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Speaker 3: then a bunch of friends.

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Speaker 1: It might be able to work Now and listen to

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Speaker 1: answer my own question.

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Speaker 2: I've actually agree with your your dreamcast for next season.

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Speaker 1: So Alex Baskin.

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Speaker 2: Evolution, Doug, listen to Kate Casey and Carlos King. We

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Speaker 2: believe your cast for next season should be So we

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Speaker 2: want Kyle to go on the Netflix show so she can,

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Speaker 2: you know, be happy and not deal with the other shit.

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Speaker 2: We want Brandy, Denise, Lisa, Erica, Garcel Sutton, Kim Richards

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Speaker 2: as a friend to the show, and Big Kathy as

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Speaker 2: full time. Yes, all right, we just did you all

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Speaker 2: a favor. So Kate, I can talk to you all

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Speaker 2: day long.

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Speaker 3: But you are going to talk to me tomorrow, so

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Speaker 3: that's fine.

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Speaker 1: I am, I am, I am, I am now. I

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Speaker 1: can't wait.

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Speaker 2: So Kate, let the rain drops know where they can

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Speaker 2: follow you, find you and support your amazing podcast.

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Speaker 3: who had an affair with Jerry Falwell's wife and how

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Speaker 3: the whole family crumbled.

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