1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Listen to the black guy who tips because Rod and 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Karen are so hot. 3 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to another episode of The Blackout to His podcast. 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: I'm your host, Rod, joined us always by my co host, 5 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: he and we're live on a Saturday morning. Still to 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: get ready to give you some podcasting. Okay, this is 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 2: our feedback episode. We're gonna talk about the things that 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: you had to say about the things that we said 9 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: throughout the week, and we're. 10 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: Gonna respond to your emails. 11 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: We didn't get any voicemails this week, which is fine, 12 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 2: but we're if you would have left voicemails, we would 13 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 2: respond to those. We're gonna respond to your comments on 14 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: our website, your votes in the polls, all of that 15 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: stuff today. So you know, this is your chance to 16 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: get to say on what we had to say. I'm 17 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 2: sure throughout the week you listen and you shake your 18 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: head and or your nod your head or whatever, and 19 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: you want to chime in, Well, this is the best 20 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: way to do it. The official weapon of the show 21 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: is and the unofficial sport what about and bullet ball extreme? 22 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 2: All right, And of course I have to shout out 23 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: the people that gave us some money. 24 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: Okay, big fans of money around here. You know what 25 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 26 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: They say, uh you know, they say money is good. 27 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: You know, it's the root of all evil. I say, 28 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: it's the rue of to the tutor. 29 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 30 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: Uh, So some people do give us money. You can 31 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 2: go to the blackoutils dot com on the right hand side. 32 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: There's a thing to be like, Hey, you want to 33 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: put in on this recurring one time, don't matter. 34 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna give you a shout out. 35 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: Okay, that's what we're playing now. 36 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: I hit the wrong button. 37 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 4: I said change. 38 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, how did that have it? What did I 39 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: do with the reading is fundamental, kids. 40 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: I mean if I would have been reading over alone 41 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: what to say? I would have known what to play. Anyway, 42 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 2: Blame it on the. 43 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: Five G, y'all. I just got the second shot. 44 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 3: I know. 45 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 4: I just got my upload. 46 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm a little off right now because of the 47 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 2: five G is downloading to the Michael chup Uh, Damien R. 48 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 2: Recurrent donator, Thank you, Damien, NICOLEA. C. Thank you for 49 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: the recurrent donation. 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Wait, why 58 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: was it not that loud? 59 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 3: Oh? 60 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: Because it's playing over here? All right, let's get into 61 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: these comments. Okay, y'all had things to say, okay, and 62 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: we like to respond to the things you had to 63 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: say because that's what the show is all about, right, 64 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: It's all about the. 65 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: Listeners who make this possible. Listeners like you listening to 66 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: NPR niggas Ponder Radio. 67 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 4: A yeah, come on Niggas the Radio. 68 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: Episode twenty three hundred and six caraffts for the Revolution. 69 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: We had three comments. 70 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: Brooklyn shoe Bay says, Hey, Rod and Karen, just to 71 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: follow up about my comment about my jobs racial reckoning conversation. 72 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: It was the administration's request to have white and non 73 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: POC of colors to not speak. Wait, what's non POC 74 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: of colors? Non people of the color of colors? 75 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: Oh maybe it's just a double. 76 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: It's like when we say atm machine, okay, to not 77 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 2: speak during the open I thought I wouldn't know about 78 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: some walk shit. 79 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: Sorry, That's why I was like, well, look at what 80 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: just happened to some new shit. I gotta learn my 81 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: brain pain it just quick? Non pocs of colors? Oh no, 82 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: I gotta look up this definition. 83 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 2: Right to not speak during the open forms as we 84 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: told our stories, but to only listen with open hearts. 85 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 2: There was a moderator and some guided questions. It was 86 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: a free for all. It wasn't a free for all. 87 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: Lol. 88 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: It was also the first step in a longer process. 89 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: In true library fashion, committees were formed and a plan 90 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: of action was developed, with all staff members invited to participate. 91 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: Oh so just during that one segment, what that makes sense? 92 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: I think if if you want to say, like during 93 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 2: this almost like testimonial moment, how has things been at 94 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: work as a person of color with white supremacy? And 95 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: this is an opportunity for white people to learn and 96 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: for black and brown people to speak. I think that's 97 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 2: different than saying we're gonna have a training white people. 98 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: Shut the fuck up, don't ask no questions, don't say nothing. 99 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 2: I think that, yeah, that that's how it sounded at first. 100 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: But if it's just that during that segment, I think 101 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: that's fine. 102 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And and I agree, I think that's fine too, 103 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 4: because you also want somebody to tell their story completely uninterrupted, 104 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 4: because a lot of times what happens that you tell 105 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 4: the story in the second somebody gets offended, or the 106 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 4: second somebody, you know, they feel something, they want to interject, 107 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 4: and it goes off topic, and then it becomes about 108 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 4: them and not you telling your story, or. 109 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 2: Like a white person that's evolved in the story starts 110 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 2: wanting to tell their side or be defensive or whatever, 111 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: and then it becomes' training about something totally different. 112 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 4: Correct. 113 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: I believe the purpose of having my white coworkers just 114 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: listening to those discussions was to prevent jumping there like. 115 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, I feel guilty. What can I do? 116 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: I forgot about that part portion without fully digesting the 117 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 2: sit with the your pain and sadness and isolation black 118 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: and POC employees we're feeling because of George Floyd and 119 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: the Black Lives Matter uprising. Also the pain and harassment 120 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 2: our agent and staff wasn't during it the library prior 121 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 2: to our pandemic closure. 122 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: I'm sorry I didn't make that clear. 123 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: No, no need, no need. 124 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: You know it was just a good you got us 125 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: to talk about something that I thought. It was a 126 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: good conversation anyway, I do agree as much as I 127 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: or many blacks may just want to tell white people 128 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: to shut the fuck up. I realized that it's not 129 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: the way to fix things. Does it make me laugh 130 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 2: when Jane Elliott makes. 131 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: White people cry? Yes? Or do I think it will 132 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: solve the problem? 133 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 4: No. 134 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,799 Speaker 2: Social media has made it easy to shout at people 135 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 2: you disagree with and mute them when they don't when 136 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: you don't want to have a discussion. I'm curious how 137 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 2: this will change human discourse in the future. But it 138 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 2: being that I was a part of both analog and 139 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 2: digital age, Yeah, I would actually add that I think 140 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 2: Jane Elliott does do the work, and I think it 141 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: does help when she makes some white person cry, not 142 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: to necessarily change that person, but the tenor of the 143 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 2: room and the people watching seeing that happen. I think 144 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: it does help. But what the thing a lot of 145 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 2: us have to realize is that those clips of Jane Elliott, 146 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: we see them on the internet, but that's what she 147 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: does in these rooms before. It just it didn't used 148 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: to make it to YouTube. It used to be like, 149 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: this is a very personal experience for people in this room. 150 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: And I think that can change people in a guided way, 151 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: because if you notice in the clips, she doesn't not 152 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: allow white people to speak in that way like you 153 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: like you would listen, you will not like she'll ask 154 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: them questions. 155 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: Now they might be set up questions, but she'll. 156 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: Stop you start crying or tripping. She'll be like, okay, 157 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: so why are you crying? Let's talk about it. 158 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, because she wants them to go through the series 159 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 4: of emotions like and that's the thing. White people get 160 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 4: triggered and then they want to talk and they want 161 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,239 Speaker 4: to speak with the fine, but then you don't actually 162 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 4: get to the root cause of the problem. So a 163 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 4: lot of times she's asking to get to the root 164 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 4: cause of the problem. A lot of times the average 165 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 4: person does not want to go that far. They don't 166 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 4: want to think that deep. They want everything to be surfaced. 167 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 4: They won't everything easy they want everything to be simple, 168 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 4: and the average person does not want to challenge themselves, 169 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 4: now just white people. People don't want to challenge themselves 170 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 4: to think deeper and the use critical thinking skills. 171 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: And she's leaning it too the moment to educate the person, 172 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: which I think is different than what I was picking 173 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: up at first, which I thought was just shut the 174 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: fuck up, which I'm like, that's not gonna educate anybody. 175 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: No one even learns in school that way, Like that's 176 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: like a teacher having a class and being like no 177 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: questions period, Like I just shut the fuck up, Like, nah, 178 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: that's not Some people will be able to learn that way, 179 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: but a lot of people will have to be like 180 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: I don't. 181 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: Fully understand this, what is this concept? And if the 182 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: whole room is just we all roll our eyes at. 183 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: The person that isn't you know that doesn't get it yet, 184 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: then it becomes like almost a hostile environment, not conducive 185 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: to learning, but it becomes a good environment to vent Finally, finally, Lol, 186 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 2: I think white people truly want to be anti racist 187 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 2: or understand the pot of POC, they need to hear 188 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: from a white person as it will make them less defensive. 189 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, That's the sad. 190 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 2: Part, you know, because I know black people who work 191 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: in the anti racism industry and also people black people 192 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 2: who want to get in, you know, on social media 193 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: and stuff with a whole nother bag of all nuts. 194 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: But a lot of them have a lot of misgivings 195 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: about the white people that are doing that work. 196 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't know why, what to tell. 197 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: You, but this assumption that they want to hear it 198 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 2: from black people or they would is bullshit. It's not 199 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: that that might be for some, but the kind of 200 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: white people you're trying to reach that have some prejudices 201 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: they need to figure. 202 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: To work with and work through. 203 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: They not they're already shut off to you. Hopefully when 204 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 2: these white people get done with that part leg of 205 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 2: the race, they'll put the relay baton in your hand, 206 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 2: which often they do. But you know, that's if these 207 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: people want are truly about it after that, you know, 208 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: because it's also a possibility that they never was truly 209 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: about that shit, and no one talking to them can 210 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: fix them, you know, marriage says Hi about telling white 211 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: people to shut the fuck up. Who I wish I 212 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: could just do that. They are exhausting and annoying, but 213 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:07,359 Speaker 2: turns out I have a superpower. 214 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: For some reason. I could tell white people. 215 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: Some hard truth and they do not lose them arms 216 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: and were actually listening to me. 217 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: Listen to me. 218 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: It's crazy to me too. Maybe it's because I grew 219 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: up with them and speak their language. Anyway, this is 220 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: a burden, but I also feel because of my faith 221 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: that God has put me in these spaces to do 222 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: good with his skit. With this skill, I have gotten 223 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 2: them to vote a certain way. Not in the general election, 224 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 2: but here in LA we had four measures that directly 225 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 2: impacted that's conservation and policing, and I was able to 226 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: break it down for them. Again exhausting, but the endgame 227 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: was to get the propositions passed. They did and someone 228 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: had to connect the dots for them, so it was me. 229 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 2: It is annoying to have to watch my tone, but 230 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: I do because of my best friend, who was white, 231 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: was honest with me and said, when you come at 232 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: me like that, it makes me scared to fuck up 233 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: and say something wrong or ask you a question fair. 234 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: I do watch my tone. 235 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: It's not that I don't say the truth, but use 236 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: a more pragmatic and reasonable tone. 237 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: Anyway, she's since become more. 238 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: Interested in these issues and even gone to her Beverly 239 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: Hills Realty group and ask why there aren't more black 240 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 2: people represent them at my own white, fancy pants law firm. 241 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 2: It was me who had to ask, aren't we going 242 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 2: to say something about these Asian American hate crimes? 243 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: And got them the issue of press release again. Endgame. 244 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: Now I'm on the diversity committee. Yikes. 245 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: So while this is annoying, I do believe I'm in 246 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: these spaces for a reason. I wish my superpower was 247 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: flying or time travel. But oh well, just call me 248 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: the white person whisperer. Yeah, I mean a ps. My 249 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 2: goal on the committee is to get them to hire 250 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: at least one black partner at the firm. Howard Firm 251 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: in LA has over one hundred attorneys and not one 252 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: black partner. 253 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that happens a lot. Yeah, and then you 254 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 4: know they look at people and be like, you're not qualified, 255 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 4: you're not was like, well, I can't get in the 256 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 4: door like that, Like that's the problem. I can't get 257 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 4: in the door, to climb up the ladder to be 258 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 4: in a position, or if I am there, it's always 259 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 4: some excuse to why I'm not qualified for the job 260 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 4: even though you bring somebody in, it's underqualified to somebody 261 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 4: that I got the train to get the job now, 262 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 4: but I'm not qualified for the job. 263 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I do think that's That's one of the 264 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 2: things that I think the Internet is just wrong about. 265 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: This idea that tone doesn't matter, this idea that if 266 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: you've experienced trauma, then you get to express that however 267 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 2: you want to, and the world are supposed to just 268 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: open up for you and go. 269 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: Okay, And it's so unhealthy. It's not true. 270 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: A lot of people need to deal with their trauma 271 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: via therapy, counseling, peer mediation, something something else, because you 272 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: can't be walking into the world a gaping sword. You 273 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: can't be walking into the world of open wound at 274 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 2: all times just pewing out and being. 275 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: Like, why won't anybody do what I tell them to do? 276 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: Or you know, like it's and it's sad because social 277 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: media really exacerbates that. And people think it comes from 278 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 2: a good place, but I and maybe it does, but I. 279 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:03,599 Speaker 1: Don't think it. 280 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 2: I think it may even if the intentions are good, 281 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: what a lot of people are actually doing this saying 282 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 2: to someone, don't don't confront your trauma, don't try to 283 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 2: find a way to to uh deal with these issues internally, 284 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Because it provides entertainment, it 285 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 2: provides engagement, and so people kind of like that shit. 286 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 2: So if someone has been say, racially profiled or something, 287 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: and they tell that story on social media, well, hey. 288 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: No problem, tell that story. That's fine. 289 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: But then if every time anything happens on the internet, 290 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: they're yelling at some white person or someone ask a question, 291 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 2: and that just and then mentions dragging and fulfilled shit 292 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: at some point, and it's like, hmmm, what is going 293 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 2: on internally for you that you've now become the racial 294 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 2: avenger for every celebrity that ever made a mistake or 295 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: you know, every person that's said anything that you disagree 296 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 2: with or whatever. And it's kind of like this thing 297 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 2: of like there's a way to convey those things without 298 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: necessarily flying off the handle. And I think people don't 299 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: act like there's no value in that. You know, your 300 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: tone police and me, well not really. Let's think of 301 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: it this way. I would like Caren to put things 302 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: in the dishwasher where the fork points down instead of pointing. 303 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: Up right. 304 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: So I could say, you know, Karen just hit her 305 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: mic with her head by accident, Okay, right right, I 306 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 2: could like there's a way for me to be like, hey, 307 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 2: you know, be careful with the mic or whatever. And 308 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: then there's hey, bitch, what the fuck you doing over 309 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: there with the mic? And that's the the internet will 310 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 2: tell you there's no difference between those two. 311 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: Like like if I were like, if she. 312 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: Were to say to me, why didn't mean to hit 313 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 2: the mic? Roger, I'm sorry, and you don't have to 314 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: call me a bit, I could be like, uh, you. 315 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: Hit my mic, so I will you will not talk 316 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: police me? Is that shit? That isn't true? 317 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: Like that's not healthy, that's not that we shouldn't be 318 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: encouraging that. So what I'm saying is you feeling like, Okay, 319 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: I'm noticing this a more effective learning tool to not 320 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 2: jumping these people's shit or deliver a certain tone that 321 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: makes them afraid of me, and. 322 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: One of these actually works. 323 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: One of these will get them to do it, and 324 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: the other will trigger some type of flight or fight 325 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 2: flight or fight response. That is, that is the only 326 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: truth that matters in my opinion, because that's the real 327 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: that's the one that actually affects things and get things done. 328 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: One of those will make you feel better than another 329 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,359 Speaker 2: if you're you know, like in the in the temporary. 330 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: What really makes you feel better in the long term 331 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 2: is probably getting those those those initiatives passed. But in 332 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: the short term, what might have made you feel better 333 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: would have been saying, well, I don't give a fuck. 334 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: If you're scared, you should be scared of me. You 335 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: better do what the fuck I tell you to do. 336 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: And then they go, Okay, fuck Mary, and then they 337 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: go off and don't vote for. 338 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: That shit right and don't change. 339 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: So I think I think one of these is it's 340 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: about what do you want to do. You want to 341 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 2: be better, you want to feel better, and I think 342 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: you're doing to me it sounds like you're doing the 343 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: right thing. 344 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 4: Me too. And also it's one of those things where 345 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 4: the thing that stuck out was speak their language, because 346 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 4: that is something that a lot of people don't understand. 347 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 4: Cultures speak a language, and I mean like amongst themselves 348 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 4: and amongst the people that use words different ways. And 349 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 4: I think we've even read articles on the New I 350 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 4: mean on the shows that have said, like if a 351 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 4: black person is talking. Even when somebody is like typing 352 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 4: out the words. If they use certain words, they'll say 353 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 4: it in the way that's not literally, that's not what 354 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 4: it means, but they'll say it because that's what they 355 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 4: hear versus the reality of what they said. And a 356 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 4: lot of times when it comes to white people, white 357 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 4: people aren't forced to speak any language but white if 358 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 4: they actually speak any other languages is by choice. Every 359 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 4: other group that's not white, it has to be forced 360 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 4: to speak their own language, whatever their language, and their 361 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 4: group is other people languages from other people of color 362 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 4: groups and white people, you know, and so it's one 363 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 4: of those things where for a lot of black people, 364 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 4: it's like Nigga, I know your language, Like the problem 365 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 4: is that you need to learn mine, and if you did, 366 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 4: it will make it easier and better for us to communicate. 367 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 4: But you know, it's one of those things where you 368 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 4: have to talk to them in their language, and then 369 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 4: once they get to a certain point, they will want 370 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 4: to and be willing to learn your language because they 371 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 4: want to better understand how to be more effective. And 372 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 4: that's the slow process. Then nobody wants to get through 373 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 4: because they were like fuck it, why don't you just 374 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 4: know my language. But it's like speak of apple speaking 375 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 4: apples and ones. You can't expect just to come into 376 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 4: the room and understand what it's something that they're not 377 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 4: brought up in, nor do they understand h Who do. 378 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 2: You prefer was the poe, Jane Elliott, Robin DiAngelo? I 379 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: don't know her, Mariah Carey. 380 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: The first one, Jay Elliott. 381 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: Forty percent of the audience prefers Jane Elliott style of 382 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 2: I guess dealing with this kind of racial recording stuff. 383 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 2: Forty four percent don't know her. I guess doesn't know 384 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 2: Jane or Robin, which makes sense. I don't think black 385 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: people necessarily trafficking in this type of work in general, 386 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 2: because it's not for us in that way, right, And 387 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 2: then eight percent said Robin DiAngelo. 388 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: Now she is newer on the scene and she has 389 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: a different approach to it. 390 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 2: Uh So Caretha Wright saying Jane Elliott was definitely my 391 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 2: introduction to white folks who encouraged white people to hold 392 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 2: themselves to the higher standards. But it's time is going 393 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 2: on unless of a fan of the fact. She made 394 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 2: a point with children. I appreciate folks who are willing 395 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: to target adults of these difficult conversations. I'm not saying 396 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 2: that was all Elliott did, but DiAngelo's focus on adults 397 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 2: has earned my respect. I've seen folks critique her and 398 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 2: pocket check her, but I haven't seen her say anything 399 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: that I didn't think was on point. And the so 400 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 2: called diversity trainer you talked about, who threw marginalized groups 401 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 2: under the bus, only makes me understand further the value 402 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: of what D'Angelo does, mostly because it's about white folks 403 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: facing themselves. 404 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: Is not for people of color, It's for white folks 405 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: to do better. 406 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 2: And then she left another comment, Oops, I should have 407 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: listened the entire episode before taking the poll. 408 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: You've clearly seen Elliott do some stuff I haven't. 409 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 2: I've never gotten impression Dangelo's workshops are about all about white. 410 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: People not speaking. Yeah, I feel you. Yeah. 411 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: I think for me, the the' angelo stuff, for me 412 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 2: is a little harder to get with because it's so 413 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 2: centered in. 414 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: This kind of guilty and shaming white people. And I 415 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: think the honest work does need to start with children. 416 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: I don't think. I think adults are too far gone. 417 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 2: And that's kind and maybe that's why her work is 418 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 2: so different than Jane Elliott's because it's like, at this point, 419 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 2: you just gotta like almost yellow, like just make white 420 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: people feel bad, you know what I mean? 421 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to get to the feelings because the 422 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 4: thing about children is that children are more open and 423 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 4: more receptive to receiving certain things. 424 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 2: Well, she will make a little white girl cry, though 425 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: don't don't don't get bad, don't don't sleep. 426 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not saying that, but but but a 427 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 4: larger percentage of them are are will will be more 428 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 4: receptive not all you know, and he guess what, And 429 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 4: even if you make them cry, they're more apt to 430 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 4: think and be like, oh you know, why did I cry? 431 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 4: Adults are like fuck it because they got these hard 432 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 4: ass brick walls over their hearts. So they're like fuck it. 433 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 4: So in order to get to them, you have to 434 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 4: use a different technique for adults. You just have to, 435 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 4: because if you're dealing with somebody and then they forties 436 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 4: and fifties, they've lived long enough and every technique that 437 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 4: you've used at them, they it's been thrown at them 438 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 4: and they've said fuck it. So you have got to 439 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 4: get to a technique that will actually be effective. You 440 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 4: have to use different techniques. And the thing is pulling 441 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 4: at somebody's heartstrings is hard to do if the heart 442 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 4: is hard, you know, But you have to kind of 443 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 4: work at it till you get to the point to 444 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 4: what they can understand. And once they understand, then their 445 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 4: heart will begin to soften. But and it's a process. 446 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 4: Because most adults know that adults don't change over night. 447 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 4: Children are more apt and more apt to change that, 448 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 4: They're more flexible to these things, even though adults have 449 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 4: lived their whole fucking life changing and evolving and growing. 450 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 4: It's just I don't know what the age is, but 451 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 4: some adults just like, fuck it, I'm not changing. This 452 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 4: is my stance and there's nothing you could say or 453 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 4: do to cause me to change my mind. 454 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, you know. 455 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 2: And then her workshops, of course, are targeted more towards, 456 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: you know, getting these corporate entities to do different things. 457 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 2: And and like, I think the concept of white fragility 458 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 2: is very real. I just I think a lot of 459 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: it is kind of like trying to set up this 460 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 2: other hierarchy of like, and and this is the new 461 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: hierarchy where you know, because you're white and you should 462 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: be on the bottom, you know what I mean, and 463 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 2: because you had privilege, you should now stand back and 464 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 2: everybody else gets a turn or whatever, which you know, 465 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 2: still better world than we have, not knocking it, but uh, 466 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 2: there's something about her style that I'll find a little 467 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: bit more off putting than James. But you know, at 468 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: the same time, I'm not really mad at either one 469 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 2: of them because at the end of the day, I 470 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 2: think all that shit is for white people, and there's 471 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 2: gonna be white people that both of them reach that 472 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 2: the other one wouldn't reach. Correct, So you know, I'm 473 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 2: just glad they're doing that work. And if that means 474 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 2: they make some money, and there's gonna be some jealousy 475 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: from black people within that same lane. 476 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just gonna be part of it. 477 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 2: They're the ones that, you know, trafficking that environment. So 478 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 2: they're gonna have to deal with the guilt or whatever 479 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 2: the figure out some way to be okay with that 480 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 2: blue waye Rodder says, I'm not a Robin DiAngelo apologist. 481 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 2: Oh I feel a butt coming on, but I'm fitting 482 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 2: to apologized, nor have I attended one of her seminars. 483 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 2: I did listen to the audio version of book White Fragility. 484 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 2: I had the impression that Robin was trying to get 485 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 2: white folks to decenter whiteness, and they're thinking the interactions 486 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 2: to stop defending the world in terms of their whiteness. 487 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 2: The point defining the world in terms of their whiteness. 488 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: The point she made in her book is that when 489 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 2: white people feel guilty or threat and they derail the 490 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 2: conversation by being offended or hurt and talking about how 491 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 2: they feel rather than how people of color experienced racism 492 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 2: bias in America. I really like Jane Elliott, though she's 493 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 2: an old white woman who ain't about that shit. Yeah, 494 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 2: and like I said, not knocking her specifically, I just 495 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 2: don't think. 496 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: I don't know that. 497 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 2: Completely pushing white people's feelings aside is any more productive 498 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 2: than hurt, letting their feelings be hurt and go through 499 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 2: that process. 500 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: That's now. 501 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 2: You could argue, we don't have time for that, and 502 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 2: I'm sure in a seminar maybe you don't have time 503 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: for that. But I do think that's important work too, 504 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 2: because I think actual change comes from dealing with your feelings. 505 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 2: I don't think anyone changes from being silenced. I just 506 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 2: don't on a personal. 507 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 4: Level, agreed. And also I think for a lot of 508 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 4: people of color that have been impacted by supremacy and 509 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 4: white supremacy, a lot of it is really like I 510 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 4: said this, I want to say simple and like you said, feelings. 511 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 4: My feelings are hurt, my family has been hurt. This 512 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 4: thing has impacted me, which is calls a lot of 513 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 4: these negative feelings and emotions to come up based off 514 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 4: of how this system works. And because of that, for years, 515 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 4: white people have said fuck my feelings. So now I'm 516 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 4: in a point where I'm gonna say fuck your feelings, right, 517 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 4: And I really do think it's this simple, And so 518 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 4: that's why you have a lot of black people that 519 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 4: are a militant and they're very I don't give fuck. 520 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck, I don't get fucked, don't 521 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 4: get fucked and fucked the and fucking and fucked and 522 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 4: fuck them because there's like, look, I am finally on 523 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 4: the other side where I can do something about it, 524 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 4: and I will not deal with it because I don't 525 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 4: want to be hurt. And that's to say, dealing with 526 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 4: your emotions and your feelings, I don't want to be hurt. 527 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 4: I don't want to go through the pain. I don't 528 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 4: want to address it, or I have addressed it, or 529 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 4: I feel like I'm over, whatever the case may be. 530 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 4: A lot of it is based and hurt and pain 531 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 4: and trying their best to navigate this system we have 532 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 4: in this country called white supremacy. But at the same time, 533 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 4: no matter how hurt we are, these white people have 534 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 4: feelings and emotions too, and their feelings are valid, even 535 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 4: though you know, if you're on the receiving side of it, 536 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 4: you feel like they're invalid, which I completely understand. But 537 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 4: they are people too, and so they've been traumatized and 538 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 4: they've been hurt, and they've been damaged by white supremacy too. 539 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 4: A lot of times when people look at white supremacy, 540 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 4: they just look at it as you know, morginalized, and 541 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 4: black and brown people be impacted. White people have been 542 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 4: devastated by it too. They have been impacted by it too. 543 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 4: Yes they are recipients of it, Yes they have benefited 544 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 4: from it, but it's also has damaged them also, and 545 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 4: that has tendency to be lost in it. Their fear 546 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 4: and they're they're being afraid and their anger and shit 547 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 4: like that. You know, I understand black people tendency. They 548 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 4: just want to dismiss it, but it's coming from somewhere, 549 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 4: and you have to get to the root cause of 550 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 4: the problem in order to fix it. Yeah. 551 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 2: I just think everyone's afraid that there's a hierarchy and 552 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 2: scarcity problem where only one group gets to be in 553 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: only one group gets to have their needs and voices 554 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 2: heard at a time, And so everyone's afraid that because 555 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 2: in the past that's what's happened. White people leap froud 556 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 2: back to the front of the line, and so that's 557 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 2: the fear, and there's just different ways of dealing with it. 558 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 2: Like I said, this hasn't worked for us. I think 559 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 2: we'll see. It'll probably be years before we see if 560 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: Robin DiAngelo actually has any true impact on people learning, 561 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 2: becoming better people and all that stuff. But some of 562 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 2: her stuff deeply reminds me of a lot of my 563 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 2: issues with Twitter and my issues with social media interactions 564 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 2: and how that to me, I haven't seen that resolve 565 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 2: a lot of conflict in all in the time I've 566 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: been out here. 567 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, And also something that people have a tendency to 568 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 4: forget that each one teach one because like I said, 569 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 4: the thing is to be told there are and you 570 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 4: talked about that all collected. The white people that aren't 571 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 4: going to hear their listens from another white person, and 572 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 4: niggas are just gonna have to deal with that, and 573 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 4: that's that's a very hard peel for people to swallow. 574 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 4: Whenever I've been saying the spear is, I understand that. 575 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 4: But you know, sometimes it takes somebody else taking the 576 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 4: face of what you're saying and get it out to 577 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 4: the masses, because at the end of the day, do 578 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 4: you want to be right or do you want equality? 579 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: Well, some people are also. 580 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 2: There's also an incentive to be upset because it's a business. Yes, 581 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 2: so there's people who are boxed out of this business 582 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 2: and they think. You know, it's like I was talking 583 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: to a friend alone spend years ago, but we had 584 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: this conversation about Tanne House and coach where, you know, 585 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 2: and it was really popular at the time on social media. Dude, 586 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 2: just I'm so glad he got off. It was popular 587 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 2: for people that wanted to be on to ship on him, 588 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 2: like he was keeping them from being on right. And 589 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,959 Speaker 2: I was like, that's bullshit, because all that happens if 590 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 2: he steps off that stage, there's no black person on 591 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 2: that stage, or or they just pick another one black 592 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 2: person and that's it. And I've watched I've read his work. 593 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 2: That's a righteous man. So what is your problem exactly? 594 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 2: Because it sounds like the real problem is these these 595 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 2: other people want to be on stage and they aren't. 596 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: So let's blame the one black person that got in 597 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 2: the door, you know what I mean, A person that 598 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 2: I that if you read his work, sites references, elevates 599 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: the voices of black women, other people within the LGBTQ people. 600 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: But but if you but if. 601 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 2: All you are is just mad he's the one, then 602 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 2: you can't see any of that. 603 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: And and the. 604 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 2: Thing is, if it was you, you'd be the same 605 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 2: they kick you, and then you would be like I'm 606 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 2: trying to get people in. 607 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm elevating their names, I'm citing their. 608 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 4: Work, and people say it's not enough, it's somebody else. 609 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 2: Why why didn't you fix the whole industry by yourself? 610 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 2: That's how people And I'm tired of that shit for 611 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 2: black people. But that being said, like I said, I'm 612 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 2: not mad at Jane or Robin DiAngelo. I have my 613 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 2: you know, my opinions on their work, but the work 614 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 2: isn't for me, and at the end of the day, 615 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 2: I'm not really determining if it works or not. It's 616 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 2: really going to be how these white people that take 617 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 2: these seminars and shit, these companies that deal with them, 618 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 2: if they are receptive to what they do and make changes, 619 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 2: and that's all I want to see, honestly. 620 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: Next episode was white Boy. 621 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 2: Sim simmer eve E left a comment if I find 622 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 2: fifteen thousand bees in my car, that's their car. 623 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: I signed tile right over to them. 624 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 4: Come on, you can have it. You want to go 625 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 4: through the bank. 626 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 2: The poe was would you be willing to get a 627 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 2: vaccine passport? 628 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: Yes? 629 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 4: No? 630 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: Or I'm not getting a vaccine yes? Yes. 631 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 2: Ninety percent of people agree with Karen. Yes, they will 632 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 2: be willing to get a vaccine passport. I'll be willing 633 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 2: to get it. 634 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: I don't care. We kind of need them. 635 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 2: It's weird because we are You're already required to be 636 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: vaccinated to do so much shit. But people just have really, 637 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 2: and I get it, people have misgivens about this vaccine. 638 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 2: It's newer and all this stuff, but people really are 639 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 2: acting like the idea of asking someone's vaccinated status is 640 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 2: like a new thing. I'm like, if you've ever been 641 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 2: out of the country, if you've ever. 642 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 4: Past I mean, you have to have imations, go to 643 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 4: school right to get the kindergarten But. 644 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: So so yeah, this isn't true. I actually saw somebody. 645 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: This was the craziest interaction I saw this. 646 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,239 Speaker 2: This is Twitter, and the nutshell someone tweeted out I 647 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 2: think people just starting to get the vaccine now for 648 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 2: clout so they can like take pictures on Instagram shit 649 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 2: and so, which is obviously kind. 650 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: Of ridiculous, is a pandemic, but people caot. 651 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 2: Tweeted it, you know, dunking on them, blah blah blah. Well, 652 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 2: somebody had caught tweeted and was like, look. 653 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: At this stupid shit or whatever. Every day y'all say 654 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: some dumb shit. 655 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 2: And then this person replied like, but I kind of 656 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 2: agree with him, though, you know, people is trying to 657 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 2: get it for cloud. You know, That's why I didn't 658 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 2: get that. I'm not getting vaccinated. I've never been vaccinated 659 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: my whole life. And a person was like, not even 660 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 2: when you was in school, so you just got homeschool then, 661 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 2: and he was like, yep, I got homeschool. So the 662 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 2: person searched that person's name at who said they got 663 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 2: homeschool and that tweets and it's all these tweets about 664 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 2: high school and middle school. And I've been knowing so 665 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 2: and so since elementary and we've been. 666 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: Hanging out, and it's like, you really went on Twitter. 667 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 4: And lied, Yeah you could have got vaccinated? 668 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: Then yeah, yeah you lied. But my point is you lied. 669 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 2: That's weird, Like you were talking about people being vaccinated 670 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 2: for Cloud, but then you lied that you never that 671 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 2: you've never. 672 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: Had a vaccine in your life for Cloud? What is 673 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: wrong with people? 674 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 4: Right? And the thing is I don't And that's the 675 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 4: thing that baffles me. A lot of people talking and 676 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 4: you're like, but nigga, you've been vaccinated, Like I don't understand, 677 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 4: Like if you went through any formal public school system 678 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 4: within the last so many years, you've had to have 679 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 4: shot in order. 680 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 2: To do When he lied and said he didn't even 681 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 2: go to public school, is my point he said. When 682 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,719 Speaker 2: they asked him, like, so, what, you've been homeschooled your 683 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 2: whole life, He's like, yup, And then they was like okay, 684 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 2: let me go. Yeah, I'm looking at uh at him 685 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 2: answering questions or responding to shit. On Twitter, someone said, 686 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 2: what was your raintome in middle school? Not middle school, 687 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 2: but in high school? It was damn by young bloods. Okay, 688 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 2: so not homeschool in high school, okay, blood being owe 689 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 2: me lunch, lunch since we were in elementary school. High 690 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 2: school for sure, even though I went to college for a. 691 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: Year, Like what are you? Like, what are you doing you? 692 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 2: You did go to school, Why are you? I don't know, 693 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 2: It's just I saw that shit. 694 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: It was just like, what the fuck is wrong with people? 695 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 2: So anyway, because that's anyway I bring that up because 696 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 2: one of the arguments I keep seeing is just like 697 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 2: if they make me get a vaccine pass or this 698 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 2: unconstitutional blah blah blah. And I'm like, okay, so you've 699 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 2: been on a plane in Africa or you ever been 700 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 2: on a plane. 701 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 4: Some Saturday the United States? 702 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you need it. So it's actually not new 703 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 2: at all. The only thing I know about. 704 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: It is that it's this vaccine and this disease. But 705 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: it's not new. 706 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 3: Uh. 707 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: Anyway, nine people agree with you they would get the 708 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: vaccine password. 709 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 2: Two percent say no, they don't want the pack vaccine passport, 710 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 2: and five percent say they're not getting the vaccine, which 711 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:34,439 Speaker 2: is that right? 712 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 4: You know? 713 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 2: And like I said, I don't care if people get 714 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 2: it in that way. 715 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: Just don't be around me. 716 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 2: And I don't mean that because I necessarily think you're 717 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 2: gonna give me something. At this point, I just got 718 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:47,760 Speaker 2: my second shot. 719 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm more worried I fuck. 720 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 2: Around and kill you, right, And I don't want that 721 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 2: on my conscience. So just you know, go out and 722 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 2: do whatever you want to in the world. But you know, 723 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 2: just understand, I'm following the CDC guidelines over here. You 724 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 2: ain't got the vaccine, Hey good luck, and I hope 725 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 2: you still wear your mask and do all that stuff. 726 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 2: I know some people are planning to kind of arbitrarily 727 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 2: wait like a year or so, Hey good luck. 728 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: But we're not going to reach her immunity if I forget. 729 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 2: It's something between seventy and ninety percent of people don't 730 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 2: get it. We know a lot of white conservative people 731 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 2: ain't getting it. We know there's people that just are 732 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 2: generally hesitating, Like sixteen percent of the population don't plan 733 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 2: on ever getting it. 734 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's gonna be interesting. 735 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 2: Blue Why Rider says I got my second I get 736 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 2: my second shot this month. We'll probably spoort my vaccine passport. Yeah, 737 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 2: we just got ours this morning. Hm. 738 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 4: I was saying, where do I get it vaccinated? Not vaccinated? 739 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 4: Where do I get eliminated? 740 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, I know by vaccine. 741 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 4: God got a vaccine, bitch. I don't want to beat 742 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 4: you all'll get nothing. 743 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 2: Dead Council Culture Episode two, three hundred and eight was 744 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 2: canceled Culture. I mean, I also culture. Shout out to 745 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,280 Speaker 2: my man Nick Cannon. Did you feed them freedom? 746 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: Mayce? 747 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 2: Mary smile says, good morning, ride and care. Regarding merch, 748 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 2: we need a standalone merch that says oh no, I 749 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 2: know there are items that include the phrase, but Karen's 750 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 2: exclamation is too good not to stand alone when she's 751 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 2: when she says it, I know the topic is just 752 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 2: especially agreed. 753 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: Just love you guys. 754 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess I would need to come up 755 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 2: with a design for that. 756 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 1: I don't even know how that how that would work? 757 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, like what would that even look like? Oh no, tbgwt, 758 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. Look, give me some ideas for a design, 759 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 2: miss Mary, and I'll make it. 760 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. 761 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 2: I'll go on canva and try to draw something up 762 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 2: if people really want to buy that. Even he says, 763 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 2: I don't know how. I don't know how that Asian 764 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,760 Speaker 2: GOP candidate doesn't think that people she's pandering to doesn't 765 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 2: feel the same way about her. I can only imagine 766 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 2: the microaggressions white people say right to her face. I've 767 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 2: is it a microaggression if you agree. I've noticed that 768 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,720 Speaker 2: so called model minority trope hurts Asians more than uplist 769 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 2: them because of in bolders White people to say crazy 770 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 2: stuff Asian people's presence, Asian people's presence because they feel safe, 771 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 2: quote unquote. I had a coworker a long time ago, 772 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 2: a white guy with an Asian wife at the company parties. 773 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: He said right in front. 774 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 2: Of her that he married her because in her culture 775 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 2: she is, women are more submissive. 776 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: I also embarrassed for her. 777 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess it's kind of like being 778 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 2: a black Republican, where like you've made the choice in 779 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 2: your mind you'd rather have this proximity to whiteness and 780 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 2: white power and the white power structure. Then you care 781 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,760 Speaker 2: about your own feelings and all that shit. So whether 782 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:50,879 Speaker 2: you're in as a grift whether you're in genuinely. It's 783 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 2: kind of like in for a penny, in for a pound, 784 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 2: because you can't stop, you can't ever pull up short. 785 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 2: Look at Michael Steele. He started having you know, thoughts 786 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 2: and talking about blackness and race, and they basically ostracized him. 787 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 2: But he's now the Republican that goes on MSNBC and 788 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 2: talks bad about Republicans because that's how far away from 789 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 2: the party he is, because he just voiced some displeasure 790 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 2: with their racism. Mary says, Hi, this is commentist on 791 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 2: the pole. The poe was if you found forty two 792 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 2: k's a job, would you turn it in? And the 793 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 2: previous discussion about taking stuff from your job. After terrible 794 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 2: battle of alcoholism and drug addiction, I ended up getting sober. Yay, right, Well, 795 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 2: one of the things you are suggested to doing a 796 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 2: twelve step program is not only live honestly from that 797 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 2: day for it, but I also go back and make 798 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 2: amends to all the people you have hard I thought 799 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 2: that meant just saying I'm sorry to. 800 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 1: A bunch of people. 801 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 2: Imagine my shock at heart when my sponsor teling me 802 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 2: to make a list of all the people in places 803 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 2: I had stolen from write a dollar amount next to 804 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,439 Speaker 2: them and then pay them back. 805 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: What the fuck? 806 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 2: I had to go back to Sam Goodie's record store 807 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 2: and pay them for all the tape, cassettes and CDs 808 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 2: I shoved in my pants and my shifts about eight 809 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 2: hundred dollars. Oh no, and newmero, Well, I ain't never 810 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 2: getting sober and numero un know for the toilet paper 811 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 2: and free wine I had taken. As my friend said, 812 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have taken so damn much if I known 813 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 2: I was gonna have to pay it back. 814 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: And that's for this poll. 815 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 2: One day, I excitedly told my sponsor I had gotten 816 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 2: free gas at the gas station because I only paid 817 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 2: five dollars in the pump gave me twenty. Yep, you 818 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 2: know how this is. She had me go back there 819 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 2: the next day and pay them fifteen. What so obviously 820 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 2: I would have had to give forty two thousand dollars back. Anyway, 821 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,879 Speaker 2: good news will still sober decades later. So the hit 822 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 2: till the pocketbook was worth it. Well, that is dope 823 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 2: that you're still sober. That's that's very that's a huge, 824 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 2: huge accomplishment. But man, your boy would have thought twice. 825 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 2: When they started talking about put dollar amounts down, I'm like, 826 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. I might have to take a sip 827 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 2: every now and then, just to you know what I'm saying, 828 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 2: I might. 829 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,720 Speaker 4: Have to count the count instead of five, I'm counting 830 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 4: every three out of the five or. 831 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 2: Two out of the so if I so what about this, 832 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 2: I take, I drink one beer on New Year's Eve 833 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,280 Speaker 2: and I can just not pay this shit back because 834 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 2: I ain't got the eight hundred. 835 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: But nah, that's dope though. 836 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 2: Uh the Paul, if you found forty two thousand dollars 837 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 2: at your job, would you turn it in? 838 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: Yes? 839 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 2: Because I'm scared the police of criminals might get involved, 840 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 2: that's me. 841 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: No, but find his keepers? Or yes because it's the 842 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: right thing to do me. 843 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'll be scared some drug dealers, somebody going, 844 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 4: anybody got my got my pants with my forty two thousands? No, 845 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 4: bitch you, And I'm not taking no goddamn bullet. That's 846 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 4: too much money. Somebody gonna come looking for that, motherfucker. 847 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 4: But that's that'd be my fear. If you reach over 848 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,359 Speaker 4: a certain dollar, I'm like, oh, somebody looking for this money. 849 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 4: The ain't not gonna be happy, bitch. Nope, No, nobody 850 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 4: kicking out my front door and I'm taking two to 851 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 4: the chest because I ain't want. 852 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,879 Speaker 1: To give it back. But that all right? 853 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 2: So uh, forty nine agree with Karen. They give it back, 854 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 2: but they're scared the police, the criminals could be involved. 855 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 2: Forty one percent say no, find his keepers. I'm keeping 856 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 2: this money. Get me and Tim person say yes, they 857 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 2: give it back, but only just because it's the right 858 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,760 Speaker 2: thing to do, not out of any fear. 859 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: I'm not in front. 860 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,839 Speaker 2: I'm probably in category one of giving it back because 861 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 2: I'm scared, but also a little bit of category see 862 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 2: where I give it back it's the right thing to 863 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 2: do and just let people laughing, because I would imagine 864 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:27,320 Speaker 2: I would be thinking, is this some old person's life savings? 865 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 2: And I just like, fuck, they gotta go work at 866 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 2: Walmart or some you know, just I'd be thinking like that. 867 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,439 Speaker 2: I know that's not how most people think. Most people 868 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 2: are very selfishly minded, and maybe it's different. When you 869 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 2: had the money in your hands, maybe I would change 870 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 2: your mind, But I honestly can't imagine I would like 871 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 2: that's such a big amount. I just can't imagine it 872 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 2: not having a story attached to it. 873 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 4: Right R. 874 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: That's some type. 875 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 4: And also it's for me, and I would go. You know, 876 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,760 Speaker 4: if I lost that much money, I would be fucking 877 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 4: losing my mind trying my best to find it. So 878 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 4: my thing is somebody eventually we'll realize this money is 879 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 4: missing and come and look forward, you know. And if 880 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 4: I was in their shoes, I would woke somebody to 881 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 4: give it back. 882 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 2: Like you know, yeah, yeah, but you did. You already 883 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 2: said the truth. Care you can't take it back. You 884 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 2: said it just because you're scared. I'm saying I would. 885 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 2: I would probably do it partially because it's just the 886 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,280 Speaker 2: right thing to do, like and that sucks because sometimes 887 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 2: you do the right thing. 888 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: And it's no reward, there's no recognition, it's just greed. 889 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,919 Speaker 1: You did the right thing, you know what I mean. 890 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 2: But also that's also probably depending on where I'm at 891 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 2: in life, because I think at twenty two, you know, 892 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 2: first apartment, struggling to eat, struggling to pay rent on time, 893 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 2: maybe maybe I'll at least I found. 894 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 1: Thirty six thousand, you know, miss it I found. I 895 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 1: don't know what happened. 896 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 2: I don't know what happened in the summer this you 897 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 2: know what I mean, So I don't know anyway. The 898 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 2: Paul asked the comments, where Jen from Brooklyn says slash 899 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,240 Speaker 2: La says, I knew this was gonna be a post 900 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 2: soon as I heard the story. Y'all might clown me, 901 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 2: but I don't think i'd be able to keep it 902 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 2: even hypothetic on me is mad at myself? Yeah, me too, Jen, 903 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 2: I'd definitely be kicking myself. But the difference is I 904 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 2: wouldn't even want the news. 905 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 1: To show up and ship with Hey, let's show. 906 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 4: No. 907 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 2: No, I don't want nobody to know they gonna be 908 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 2: clown I ain't talking about how they would have been 909 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 2: naming this shit good good Rod Marrowill just get the fuck, 910 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 2: Just get the fuck out of my face. Thank you 911 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 2: for the thousand. Russell Edward says, I really enjoyed Steve 912 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 2: Harvey Hurst's hosting versus. He was hilarious, oldheads, me dropping gems. 913 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 2: Mister Biggs needed him to carry the show because he 914 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 2: wasn't ready to stay until the second half. 915 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 1: Earnie and his guitar stole the show. Yeah, I enjoyed it. 916 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 2: I even think I kind of even enjoyed people bitching 917 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,399 Speaker 2: about it like it was just kind of like, I'm 918 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 2: glad he was there. 919 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: It was fun to me man. You know, like you say, 920 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:00,399 Speaker 1: a lot. 921 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 4: Of people who don't produce, they don't think about it, 922 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 4: Like you said, initiative. They didn't give him anything to 923 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 4: work with, so he almost had to tell stories in 924 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 4: order to keep it rolling. And if you would have 925 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 4: had somebody that didn't have the stories, that didn't know 926 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,280 Speaker 4: how to interact with him, it had been very boring. 927 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 4: And then you heard the opposite complain y'all about these 928 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,359 Speaker 4: niggas on here and y'all didn't have no stories down. 929 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's just the versus culture. They 930 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 2: complain about everyone. Everyone asked one of the Vultures verses. 931 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,840 Speaker 2: I've seen people talk about how good it was, but 932 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,800 Speaker 2: also shit on it for some just normally some ridiculous reason. 933 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 1: Oh did you see her face when she said this? 934 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 2: Oh they hate each other, you know, it's like they 935 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 2: turned into reality TV. So of course, and then we 936 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 2: had episode two, three oh nine, both sides with my 937 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,360 Speaker 2: man Jail Covid dropping the hilarious Charles Barkley get impression. 938 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: He actually posted it on he made. 939 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 2: A video out of Trump asking Charles Barkley to do 940 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 2: outreach to the black African Americans. Oh no, oh, it 941 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:02,760 Speaker 2: was so good. Well he did both impressions. But yeah, 942 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 2: but nobody left any comments because I guess we said 943 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,399 Speaker 2: everything they need to be said. I ain't. 944 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 4: Nobody had anything extra day. 945 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: The poe was, which would you prefer? 946 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 2: Sports commentators can talk about politics even if you disagree 947 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 2: with them, sports commentators have to stick to sports, or 948 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 2: I don't watch sports commentators care. 949 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 4: I guess one, even though I still want Charles Bosky 950 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,760 Speaker 4: just shut the fuck up. But I guess one. 951 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 2: So you prefer starts commentators can talk about politics even 952 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 2: if you disagree with them. 953 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 1: I think I'm on that page too. It's annoying though. 954 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 4: Right, that's the part. It's annoying, But that's kind of 955 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 4: where I'm at. You know, just because you disagree with them, 956 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 4: don't mean they don't have the right to talk about it. 957 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 4: Because the thing is everybody's fears shut the other part down, 958 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 4: But it's always another part who might may agree or 959 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 4: disagree with what you're saying. 960 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm in that group too. 961 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 2: I just h oh man, It's like sometimes it's just 962 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 2: like why anyway, forty one percent of the audience says, okay, 963 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 2: so forty nine percent don't watch sports commentators. 964 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,359 Speaker 1: Okay, so count them out. 965 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 2: So then if you take the rest of this percentage 966 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 2: and kind of double it, you can get another one 967 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 2: hundred percent. So about eighty two percent. Eighty four percent 968 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 2: of people think eighty percent. Eighty percent of people think 969 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 2: I would rather sports that do watch sports commentators, if 970 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 2: they should talk about politics, if they if they want to, 971 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 2: even if I disagree, twenty percent say stick to sports. 972 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 4: They did the motherfuckers. 973 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,439 Speaker 2: But and I can't blame them, because I mean, there 974 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 2: is like this is the one place that white people 975 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 2: not all the way wrong. But it's just saying we 976 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 2: but it's just that we understand that the reason why 977 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 2: people have a problem with stick to sports is specifically 978 00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 2: because black people talking about racial sports. They don't ever 979 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 2: have a problem with white people or black people who 980 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 2: happen to be conservative. They don't have none of them. 981 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 2: Won't savee still off the air, none of them, you know. Anyway, 982 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,840 Speaker 2: Eve says. 983 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:14,720 Speaker 1: Not gonna lie. 984 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 2: I don't mind sports commentators talking about sports as long 985 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 2: as they not Coon takes so against politics. So Jason 986 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 2: Wild like to say, still can shut the hell up. Well, yeah, 987 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 2: everybody will say that, and I mean on our side. 988 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,359 Speaker 2: But that was the point of me phrasing the question 989 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:32,760 Speaker 2: that way was because yeah, if of course everyone agrees 990 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,240 Speaker 2: with the people that disagree with them shouldn't talk duh. 991 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,919 Speaker 1: You know. I just think the ones that be saying 992 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,919 Speaker 1: stupid shit that I don't like shit tout the fuck 993 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 1: up right. 994 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 2: That's the problem because nobody agrees on what stupid shit 995 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 2: is because white people think Jamel Hill is saying something 996 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 2: stupid when she's not right, you know. 997 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 1: Uh. 998 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 2: Anyway, the last episode are Walking Down recap, possibly the 999 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 2: last Walking Dad recap. 1000 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,839 Speaker 1: We do not behind the paywall. Someone on Twitter did 1001 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 1: have an issue with it. 1002 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 2: They said, I've been mad about the blackou tips all 1003 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,240 Speaker 2: day and I hit him up on Twitter. 1004 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 1: It was like, oh, you are right, what's going on? 1005 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 2: And it was like, Oh, it's really just about y'all 1006 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 2: say y'all can put the Walker Dead behind the pay 1007 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 2: while I was like, yeah, well, I'm the one who 1008 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 2: sees the numbers. 1009 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 1: And it ain't looking good at dog. 1010 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 2: We hurting the brand talking about Walking Dead and if 1011 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,879 Speaker 2: you really need that content, you're gonna have to put 1012 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 2: a little something on it or something. 1013 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you anyway. 1014 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,760 Speaker 2: Episode twenty three ten says, let's start at the beginning. 1015 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,839 Speaker 1: Was the title? I thought, Oh, so clever Edie. 1016 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 2: He says, Carol is gonna Carol. I actually like her. 1017 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 2: But she could shove that. She can shove what that's 1018 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 2: that's off her conscious? 1019 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: Of her ass? 1020 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,720 Speaker 2: Oh she when she sayss off my conscious. She promised 1021 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 2: me he have a place in the community if he 1022 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 2: helped him out. He did, and now she's trying to 1023 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 2: pretend like she's protecting him. I'm glad and he even 1024 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 2: called her bluff. I don't think is gonna kill Niggan. Honestly, 1025 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:02,879 Speaker 2: she could have stayed gone. 1026 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1027 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,319 Speaker 2: Well, I like Lord Cohen as an actress, and I 1028 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,359 Speaker 2: like the character of Maggie, so I'm glad she's back 1029 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 2: me too. It was Maggie going to kill Nigan, yes 1030 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,240 Speaker 2: or no? Forty eight percent say yes, fifty two percent 1031 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,400 Speaker 2: say no. Yeah, I don't think she will either. It 1032 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 2: would be I mean, it's last season, so I guess 1033 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 2: I'll bet so off. But yeah, I would. I don't 1034 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,319 Speaker 2: think she would kill him. I think she's gonna pull 1035 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 2: up short because she'll see he has changed. Judy says 1036 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 2: jeffred De Morgan, and the actress who played his wife 1037 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,880 Speaker 2: had such good chemistry because she's. 1038 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 1: His wife in real life. 1039 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 4: Oh I didn't know that. 1040 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 1: Well she they do seem to have amazing chemistry. And 1041 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:38,840 Speaker 1: now what explain a lite? 1042 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 4: Right? 1043 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 2: All right, let's get into emails because, like I said, 1044 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 2: we have no voicemails for for this episode. D Right 1045 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,760 Speaker 2: saying random thought a quick comment on Sharon Osbourne leaving 1046 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 2: the Talk now she can get her own talk show 1047 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 2: and with her best friend, Pierce Morgan. 1048 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, if y'all soo ooh, y'all so close, 1049 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:02,839 Speaker 1: get your own little show. 1050 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 2: You know, like y'all that's your friend, he should offer 1051 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 2: you a job. 1052 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:07,799 Speaker 1: That's how I'll see it. 1053 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 2: You know that you can yell at him about educating 1054 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:15,400 Speaker 2: you or y'all just be agreeing on everything she was 1055 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 2: going so hard for and call it the racist bricks. 1056 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 2: First first guest stars Prince Charles and the fam have 1057 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 2: a tea time with the Blacks. I was just talking 1058 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,959 Speaker 2: talking about this with my mom. She wanted to share 1059 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,239 Speaker 2: with y'all. That's hilarious. I would that would be good 1060 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,719 Speaker 2: them just sitting around agreeing that it is the black 1061 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,320 Speaker 2: people's fault and Megan's fault. 1062 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 1: PS. 1063 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 2: I'm a first time balcony owner, and I was thinking, 1064 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 2: maybe I can get some crafting going on out there 1065 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,800 Speaker 2: and maybe and make it look like the tropic sense 1066 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,080 Speaker 2: we still be in the corona. Did y'all do anything 1067 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 2: with your balcony? No? 1068 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 4: Uh, looking out there, and every time I think about it, 1069 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,720 Speaker 4: like looh to work and gonna take my ass back inside. 1070 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 2: Everything I did from my balcony was essentially I bought 1071 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 2: some some uh some patio furniture that was like metal 1072 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 2: because I like that style more than I like the 1073 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,399 Speaker 2: like wicker ship and all the wood shit, And that's it. 1074 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,240 Speaker 2: That's all your boy did. I don't go out there often, 1075 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,800 Speaker 2: although I should, but I have a fear of bugs 1076 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,759 Speaker 2: and shit, so I always feel like, you know, it's 1077 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 2: like I gotta be like, all right, I'm gonna go 1078 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 2: out here. 1079 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,760 Speaker 1: Please don't be no wash, Please don't be no horns, 1080 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,880 Speaker 1: please don't be no bees. All right, cool, alright, everything's fine. 1081 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,760 Speaker 1: Who was that so come out? 1082 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 4: Especially now you got them big ass wood bees. It 1083 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 4: looks like they could tap your ass on the shoulder 1084 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,279 Speaker 4: next you what time it is? Fuck them? 1085 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 1: Those are the harmless bees. But yeah, but there are. 1086 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,919 Speaker 2: We have had like hornets out there and washed before 1087 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,719 Speaker 2: and I had to kill them. So because I don't 1088 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,440 Speaker 2: play that hornets and was for assholes. There's no redeemable 1089 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 2: value about them. I don't give a fuck what y'all 1090 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 2: say about they. 1091 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 1: Kill other bugs. 1092 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,600 Speaker 2: That's not like like they kill other bugs. But they 1093 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,920 Speaker 2: will also just sting you for walking by. They're not 1094 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,840 Speaker 2: even like b well, like a B will be unless 1095 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,879 Speaker 2: it's like you're not fucking with my nest, all right, 1096 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 2: I'm not really fucking with you. A fucking hornet or 1097 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,879 Speaker 2: will go out of its way to sting you, like 1098 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,239 Speaker 2: what the fuck? And they don't die when they sting you, 1099 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:14,719 Speaker 2: so they don't even have to give nothing up. 1100 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 1: Fuck that. 1101 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 2: Sorry, that's a random They had nothing to do with that. 1102 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,800 Speaker 2: Let's see what else we got Turk Right's hand. Carol 1103 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 2: is one crafty cracker. Hi, guys, this week's episode of 1104 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 2: Walker Dad got me so heated. Apparently Karens are still 1105 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,839 Speaker 2: out here. Karen and no offense Karen over decades after 1106 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,440 Speaker 2: the Zpoch started, Carol, I'll see you and know what 1107 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 2: you are doing. She's trying to score points with Maggie 1108 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 2: since people who are around during the Whisper of War 1109 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 2: are probably still upset with her for acting out of 1110 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 2: pocket and getting Conny lost. She's trying to find someone 1111 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 2: else for the community to power on. And I don't 1112 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 2: believe the counsel would banish the man the man without 1113 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,080 Speaker 2: a formal hearing. Carol has some nerve vanishing people for murder. 1114 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 2: She was salt to about Rick doing the same thing 1115 00:52:58,680 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 2: to her years ago. 1116 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:00,920 Speaker 1: There is no better. 1117 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 2: There's uh, she's no better than Nigan because they are 1118 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,840 Speaker 2: both murders. That's a good point. Well, she got banished 1119 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,799 Speaker 2: by Rick. That was an amazing episode, by the way, 1120 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 2: but she definitely wasn't agreeing with his point of view. 1121 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:21,160 Speaker 2: Although I will say, actually, I take it back, it's 1122 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:28,239 Speaker 2: not that good a point because Nigga's murders was pretty ridiculous, 1123 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:32,319 Speaker 2: like he like Carol's doing like mercy killings, compared the 1124 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 2: way he Niga's out here, like oh my god, it's 1125 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,759 Speaker 2: time to go. Hope, we got our shitting pants on 1126 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,040 Speaker 2: like he was. He had a whole stand up thirty 1127 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:44,960 Speaker 2: minute routines. 1128 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 3: He did. 1129 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,840 Speaker 4: He coming there with his bad and his jacket going, hey, 1130 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 4: I think it's backball time. But do you hear that? 1131 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 3: Yes? 1132 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 4: On the basis are loaded and I'm about to head 1133 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 4: a whole rock on upside. 1134 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,240 Speaker 1: Joe Head, Who's Who's walk on music? Is that playing? 1135 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 4: You know, like a whole ass routine? 1136 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was, he was, definitely, it was. Yeah, it 1137 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:11,880 Speaker 2: was a little bit different. It was a little bit different. 1138 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:16,160 Speaker 2: So I get it, you know, like this motherfucker's walking 1139 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:17,520 Speaker 2: out of his r V like. 1140 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 4: To slow come. 1141 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 1: Oh, I hope we got pass on. 1142 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,280 Speaker 2: Like all right, this nigga got a theme song. Yeah, 1143 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 2: he got flashing. 1144 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,799 Speaker 4: Lights and the mascot and ship fireworks is going on 1145 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:36,800 Speaker 4: down here, giving away free T shirts. 1146 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 1: Come out, Carol. Carol did her killing a little bit more. 1147 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 2: It was fucked up, but she did her ship like listen, 1148 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna quietly kill this person because. 1149 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 1: They got the ebola and they gonna kill us all 1150 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 1: in this prison. Anyway. She do be killing people. Darryl 1151 00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 1: Glynn would. But by the way, at this point, isn't 1152 00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,920 Speaker 1: everybody a murderer? You can't judge Niagan. 1153 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 2: We're both murderer's like Nigga, I murder people way different 1154 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 2: than you. 1155 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,680 Speaker 1: He was out here fucking people up. Bro. 1156 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 2: Uh Darryl Glenn what uh Darryl Glenn would be alive 1157 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 2: if you had followed directions when Nigan told you the 1158 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,080 Speaker 2: chill at the Abe got killed. Don't stand there being 1159 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,840 Speaker 2: quiet when you see the games Carol is playing. Also, 1160 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 2: Meagan killed Abe and Glenn because everybody, because everybody except 1161 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:28,040 Speaker 2: all lives. 1162 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,600 Speaker 1: Madam Morgan agreed to. 1163 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 2: Run through the satellite facility. Yes, that means you too, Maggie. 1164 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 2: Don't stay mad about some stuff you all started. And Maggie, girl, 1165 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,920 Speaker 2: everyone is not as upset as you about Nigga. He 1166 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,359 Speaker 2: had a whole group of people who supported him when 1167 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:43,840 Speaker 2: he was in charge of the Saviors. This is the 1168 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 2: biggest Nigga apologist we've ever got now, Like you know, actually, 1169 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:49,880 Speaker 2: if you think about. 1170 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,160 Speaker 1: It, Nigga was just misunderstood. 1171 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 4: Nigga was right. 1172 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:54,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty good guy. 1173 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:55,480 Speaker 4: Uh. 1174 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 2: He went to jail, he stopped killing people in the community. 1175 00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,879 Speaker 1: He's been helpful. Get over it. What's she not a prison? 1176 00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:01,880 Speaker 1: That relation to y'all? And that's fine. 1177 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 2: The group was stronger with Nigga then without him at 1178 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,799 Speaker 2: this point, the man got skills and like Marty mar 1179 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:07,960 Speaker 2: he loves the kids. 1180 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,319 Speaker 1: Let him stay, and everybody just. 1181 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 2: Keep ignoring each other like YouTube and like you've been 1182 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,239 Speaker 2: doing these past few days since you got back piece 1183 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:20,960 Speaker 2: turt allur' turt. I have a feeling, and maybe I'm wrong, 1184 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 2: but I have a feeling if somebody bashed your significant 1185 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 2: other's head in with a. 1186 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,239 Speaker 1: Baseball bat right in front of your goddamn. 1187 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 4: Face, you wouldn't take that easily. 1188 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 2: I don't think even ten years later you be able 1189 00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,400 Speaker 2: to see that nigga walking around the street and this 1190 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:37,839 Speaker 2: head and nod like all good. 1191 00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,239 Speaker 1: You paid your debt to society. It's been seven years. 1192 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 1: So that's just my feelings. I don't know. 1193 00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:45,960 Speaker 2: You just seem like the type you know, but I 1194 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 2: don't know you personally. Maybe you would be able to 1195 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 2: just go. It's for the greater good and we're stronger 1196 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,719 Speaker 2: with him doing out them, But I just I doubt it. 1197 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 2: D Wright saying hello, family, I'm about two or three 1198 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 2: episodes behind, but I wanted to comment on episode twenty 1199 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,839 Speaker 2: three to ten. Let's start at the beginning. Jeffrey Dean 1200 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,879 Speaker 2: Morgan is Niagan on the Walking Dead baby. I love him. 1201 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,880 Speaker 2: His real life wife, Hillary Burton Morgan was excellent in 1202 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 2: this episode. I love this episode and the ranks is 1203 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,440 Speaker 2: one of my top five of the entire series. That's 1204 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:14,799 Speaker 2: a lot. 1205 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 1: That's saying. That's not a lot. 1206 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:16,840 Speaker 4: It is, ain't it? 1207 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,959 Speaker 2: Listening now on episode twenty three oh nine, both sides 1208 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,880 Speaker 2: of Jail Covine so good, y'all remind me of my 1209 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 2: cousin's debate in the best decade of the TV shows 1210 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,880 Speaker 2: and music. Much love to you and Karen stay blessed, 1211 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 2: d Jemini, thank you, and that is everybody. That's all 1212 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 2: the feedback we have for this week short episode. We'll 1213 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:39,800 Speaker 2: be back tomorrow, but first, let me open up this gift. 1214 00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:40,920 Speaker 1: We got something in the mail. 1215 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:41,920 Speaker 2: Now. 1216 00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:43,840 Speaker 1: Look, it doesn't say who's sent it. 1217 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,840 Speaker 2: It was from This was on our Amazon wish list, right, 1218 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,320 Speaker 2: I think so? Yes, it was on our Amazon wish list. 1219 00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,880 Speaker 2: The it says make dB Roth but I don't think. 1220 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. That sounds like the company or something. 1221 00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. But what is this, Karen? 1222 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,040 Speaker 4: It is a wine set. If you turn her on 1223 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,400 Speaker 4: the side and list everything going, I don't know, says. 1224 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:09,920 Speaker 2: Seven Piece Wine. Gift set, because I mean, I'm assuming 1225 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,840 Speaker 2: you put this on the list. So I was wondering 1226 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:12,720 Speaker 2: if you know what it does. 1227 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's electric lind opener and some other stuff. It 1228 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,400 Speaker 4: came as A said, I think on the side it 1229 00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 4: might list what the individual items are. 1230 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 2: Wine opener, four cutter, aerator, aerator poorer, vacuum preserver two 1231 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:33,040 Speaker 2: vacuum two vacuum compatible wine stoppers, charging, base power adapter, 1232 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:37,439 Speaker 2: ain't user, God damn kind of futuristic ass. 1233 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,360 Speaker 1: Alcoholism it's going. 1234 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,200 Speaker 4: I know it was all that. I just knew it 1235 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,400 Speaker 4: had the electronic wine opener, which I was like, Oh, 1236 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:46,479 Speaker 4: I ain't got to twist shit. 1237 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 2: Don't listen this far many, Okay, this is gonna be 1238 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,960 Speaker 2: too tempting. You're gonna be getting your eight hundred dollars back. 1239 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:57,160 Speaker 1: Drinking. I agree. 1240 00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,400 Speaker 2: I thought it was already easy to drink. I've been 1241 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,120 Speaker 2: open about anyway. All right, y'all, that's it for to day. 1242 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow. Our guests will be Will Strickling 1243 00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,720 Speaker 2: from the Open Run podcast. Y'all might remember him from 1244 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 2: Back of the Day All Balls Don't Bounce with Morgan 1245 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,680 Speaker 2: and Dwayne and Will so be good to catch up 1246 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 2: with wall Street on the podcast. We were on his 1247 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,680 Speaker 2: show earlier this year, so it'd be good to return 1248 00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 2: to favor. And then, you know, we got some some 1249 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:30,800 Speaker 2: guests coming through pretty soon. I know Michael Smith from 1250 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:32,640 Speaker 2: ESPN is gonna be on the show in a couple 1251 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,280 Speaker 2: of weeks if everything goes right. 1252 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, looking forward to all that. 1253 00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:41,080 Speaker 2: I hope y'all enjoy it, and we'll talk to y'all tomorrow. 1254 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,640 Speaker 1: Until then, all of you, Yeah,