1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Sexton Show Podcast. Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: off right now. Everybody, Thank you for being here with us. 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: As always and as promised, we are joined by Bill O'Reilly. 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: Go check out his latest at billoreilly dot com. He's 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: an eighteen time New York Times bestselling author and he's 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: got a well one new book out. Now we'll ask 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: him about the one that's coming out later on. Bill, 9 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: Thanks for being here with us. Appreciate it. 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: Clay and Buck to legends in the making. How's that? 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: I like it. We'll take it. We'll take it. So 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: let's let's get into the Hunter Biden news today. We're 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: talking to Miranda Devine about it before and look, I 14 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: had called for many months Bill on the show. I 15 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: said that they're going to make it disappear with the 16 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: ultimate sweetheart deal and then they'll just go forward the 17 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: Trump prosecution. Clay is kind of just labergasted with outrage 18 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: at the destruction of any sense of the criminal justice 19 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: system being fair. What do you see happening here, both 20 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: on the legal side and then also just in the 21 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: broader political sense with the Hunter stuff. 22 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: Well, it's no question that the Justice Department and the 23 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 2: federal government in general is corrupt under President Biden. So 24 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: if Americans don't accept that, you're not living in the 25 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: real world. We are in a corrupt time as far 26 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 2: as the federal government is concerned. So this comes as 27 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: no surprise. And tonight on my broadcast the No Spin News, 28 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: I'm going to run a SoundBite that I said on 29 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: May fourth that predicted exactly that this would happen. But 30 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: it's not a bad thing because, number One, it heightens 31 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: awareness for the fifty percent of Americans that do not 32 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: pay attention to the news cycle. Half of the voters 33 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: are totally clue someone goes on day to day in 34 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: this country. This will get through to them and they 35 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: won't understand what happened or anything like that, but they 36 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: will know that there is a crack in the Biden machine. 37 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: Number Two, this does not prevent future charges against Hunter 38 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: Biden for crimes unrelated to his tax returns or his 39 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 2: gun purchase. So, for example, there's an active investigation underway 40 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: right now that says a foreign company, Barisma out of Ukraine, 41 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: opened an account for Hunter Biden in a corrupt bank 42 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 2: in the island nation of Malta in the Mediterranean Sea. Now, 43 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: subsequently that bank was shut down for corruption charges. So 44 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: say Hunter Biden violated some kind of American law in 45 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 2: operating with his bank in a fraudulent manner, he could 46 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 2: be charged again. And believe me when I tell you 47 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: the Republicans heading the Oversight and Judiciary committees are going 48 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 2: full bore to link the Biden family with Joe Biden. 49 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: In the reception of more than ten million dollars. 50 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 3: Bill, you said you don't think Hunter Biden's gonna run. Sorry, 51 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 3: I hopefully doesn't think. Yeah, well we agree on that one. 52 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: You said you don't think Joe Biden is gonna run. 53 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 3: One of the questions that people are debating and discussing, 54 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: certainly in the wake of this sweetheart deal for Hunter 55 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: is how, if at all, does this impact Joe Biden's 56 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 3: political future as it pertains to running again. Do you 57 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: think these are connected in any way? Do you think 58 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: this sweetheart deal could be connected to Biden not running? 59 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: How would you assess or do you see these as 60 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 3: too not situations? 61 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: I don't believe that the Hunter Biden guilty plea on 62 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: these chargers is going to affect President Biden's quest for reelection. 63 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: I don't believe that, just as I don't believe that 64 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 2: the prosecutions against Donald Trump are going to affect his 65 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: status inside the Republican Party. Both parties are going to 66 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: stay with their guys. I say that Biden isn't going 67 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: to run again because I don't think physically and mentally 68 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: come November of this year that he's going to be 69 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: capable of that that he's you know, he's going downhill 70 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 2: so fast. Did you hear him say he's going to 71 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: build a railroad across the Pacific and into the Indian Ocean. 72 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: I think you guys mentioned. 73 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: That, right, yep, yep. 74 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: I mean, if he he's saying things like that that 75 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: we're going to have a chew chew go from San 76 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: Francisco to the Maldives, I mean, you're sitting there and 77 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: you're going, this is impossible. Nobody could say anything like that. 78 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: He does don't know what he's saying, and that will 79 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: become more and more apparent, even though obviously the administration 80 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: is trying to hide him. So it's going to come 81 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: to a point. And one of the indicators was that 82 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom did an interview with Sean Hannity. Yeah, I 83 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 2: saw that right. In a million years, Gavin Newsom would 84 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: not have done an interview like that unless he believes 85 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: he's got some kind of shot to step into this 86 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: presidential race. So these small indicators tell me, and I 87 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: know this for a fact, that the Democratic Party doesn't 88 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 2: want Joe Biden to run again. But they can't go 89 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: to Kamala Harris, she's a disaster. So they're kind of 90 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 2: just going day by day, but are committed Democrats and 91 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: liberal is going to not vote for Joe Biden because 92 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: of Hunter Biden? I don't think so. 93 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, And then the machine is very powerful. If we're 94 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: speaking of Bill O'Reilly for joining us in progress, Killing 95 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: the Legends, The Lethal Danger of Celebrity his latest book 96 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: of eighteen bestsellers out there, Bill, did you see we 97 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: haven't played it yet for this audience, some of the 98 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: clips of it, but I just wanted your overall take 99 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: after the Brett Bear Trump interview that aired last night, 100 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: where there were some there were some pretty contentious moments. 101 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: I don't think Brett was being contentious, but just the 102 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: nature of the questions and response seemed to be a 103 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: little tense in some points. How did you view it? 104 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: Just overall? Takeaway? 105 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: Well, I watched the interview and Donald Trump is an 106 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: extremely difficult man to chat with. I've done more interviews 107 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: with Trump than any human being alive. I did the 108 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: first interview when he announced for president back in twenty sixteen, 109 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 2: the escalator thing. I did the super Bowl interview with him. 110 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: I know him inside and out. My secret was I 111 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 2: would tell him before the interview, if my hand goes up, 112 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 2: if you see my finger go up, that means I 113 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 2: want to jump in. I don't want to interrupt you 114 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: and be rude. But when you see my finger, wrap it. 115 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: And he did okay. And I said the same thing 116 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,239 Speaker 2: in President Obama when I interviewed him three times, because 117 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: Obama can do the same thing to Trump. Could they 118 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: can do five minutes on your socks? Okay, they fill 119 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: a buster. So Barr New knows that and he news 120 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 2: up against it. He wasn't disrespectful. I thought the most 121 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: interesting moment was he took a minute to run down 122 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: all the people that worked in the Trump administration will 123 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: have turned on Donald Trump. 124 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: Bill, Can I put my finger up because we actually 125 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: have do you mind if we have that will play 126 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: that for the audience, that he keep going play that 127 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: for everybody listening. It is cut number eight. 128 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 4: Your Vice President Mike pass is running against you. You're 129 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 4: Ambassador of the United Nations, Nikki Haley, she's running against you. 130 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 4: Your former secretory said, Mike Pompeo said he's not supporting you. 131 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 4: You mentioned National Security Advisor John Bolton, He's not supporting either. 132 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 4: You mentioned Attorney General Bill Barr says you shouldn't be 133 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 4: president again, calls you the consummate narcissist and troubled man 134 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 4: you recently called and bar a gutlass pig. Your second 135 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 4: Defense secretary is not supporting you, called you irresponsible. This week, 136 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 4: you and your White House called your White House Chief 137 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 4: of Staff John Kelly weak and ineffective and born with 138 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 4: a very small brain. You called your acting White House 139 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 4: Chief of Staff mc mulvaney a born loser. You called 140 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 4: your first Secretary of s Rex Tillerson dumb as a rock, 141 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 4: and your first Defense Secretary James mattis the world's most 142 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,359 Speaker 4: overrated general. You called your White House Press Secretary katherinny 143 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 4: Milk toast, and multiple times you've referred to your transportation 144 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 4: Secretary Elaine Shoo as Mitch McConnell's China loving wife. So 145 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 4: why did you hire all of them in the first place? 146 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: Bill, what do you think? 147 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 5: Well? 148 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: I thought it was relevant, and Trump did not answer 149 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: the question. And you can't force people to answer questions. 150 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: And some of the audiences all right, what am I 151 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 2: supposed to do? Or Britt Barry hit him over the 152 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: head with a mallet, He's not going hes gonna answer 153 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 2: what he wants. What Trump should have answered and should 154 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: have said, is the truth that Donald Trump is a 155 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 2: guy who takes everything personally. Everything. If you screw up, 156 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: he takes it personally. And then if you say bad 157 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: things about him, it escalates. He says bad things about you. 158 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 2: It's a merry go round of personal invective. That's Trump's style. Okay, 159 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: everyone who worked for him knows it. Everyone who's considering 160 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: working for him should know it. He's not an easy guy. 161 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: It doesn't have any more significance than that. Do Maga 162 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 2: people care that all of these former Trump employees don't 163 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 2: like him? Now, No, they don't, because they believe that 164 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 2: Trump did a good job as president. But Bear's job 165 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: is to try to get information. I thought it was 166 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: a little windy. I would have cut it down. The 167 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: thing ran ten minute ten. I would have cut it 168 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: down to about forty and just taken the highlights. You 169 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: didn't need Rex Pillison, the Rex, the Wonder Dog. It 170 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: didn't need all that. But it needed to be asked. 171 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 2: But I don't know if Bear expected an answer. I 172 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: certainly did not. 173 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 6: Bill. 174 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 3: What's the impact of all the charges? I know you 175 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 3: wrote about it at Bill O'Reilly dot com. All of 176 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 3: these counts South Florida. We'll talk about the timing. Eileen Cannon, 177 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 3: the judge there, has started to set her own calendar 178 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 3: for how this is all going to play out. Do 179 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 3: you think Trump is ultimately going to be the Republican nominee? 180 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 3: You don't think that Biden is going to be there? 181 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 3: What does this race ultimately look like when we're talking 182 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 3: about June of next year, right as we've already got 183 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 3: the nominee set, Where do you think we're headed? 184 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: Okay, it's an excellent question, and I wish I could 185 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: answer it, but I cannot. I'm basing my Biden analysis 186 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 2: on his physical and mental deterioration, which is not going 187 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 2: to get any better. Trump is a different cat as 188 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: Dennis Miller might say, he can survive all of these 189 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: things because the core of his support, which is far 190 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: more than any other Republican running for the presidency right now, 191 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:29,479 Speaker 2: the core people believe the fix is in. He's inoculated 192 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: to this stuff. That being said, he's going to have 193 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: to sit for these charges, but he doesn't even have 194 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 2: a law team in place. This can't possibly start in August. 195 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: It'll be pushed back, pushed back. They're going to challenge 196 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: the Presidential Records Act in court, they're going to challenge 197 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 2: the Espionage Act. They're going to do all of this stuff. 198 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 2: So this time next year, I don't even think those 199 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: proceedings are going to be underway. I don't even think 200 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: that it will. That's how complicate this thing is. But 201 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: in the end, I believe he's gonna have to do 202 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 2: it Hunter Biden did. He's gonna have to play out 203 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: through a couple of very lesser charges because he did 204 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: not hand over to the National Archives national security documents 205 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 2: that were requested. That is the fact, And it doesn't 206 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: matter if the other people didn't do it, that doesn't matter. Okay, 207 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 2: he didn't hand them over, So a jury is going 208 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: to say, well, you have to hand them over. That's 209 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: federal law. So and I can't imagine him sitting there 210 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: in a trial in that courtroom in Miami. I just 211 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 2: can't picture that. So the you know, if you are 212 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 2: a person like me who analyzes from fact beast and 213 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 2: what has happened in the past, if it comes to 214 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: that and he loses all his court challenges, I think 215 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: he'll plead down. 216 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: Killing the Legends The Lethal Danger of Celebrity. Go check 217 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: out that book if you haven't already gotten your copy, 218 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: and look at Bill's analysis, and watch a show at 219 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 1: Bill O'Reilly dot com. Bill always appreciate you stopping by. 220 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: Okay, guys, I sent you Killing the Witches, which is 221 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: my next one coming up September twenty sixth. 222 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: I hope you got it just time. By the way, 223 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: good time, legitimately, legit I did a whole podcast on 224 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: the Real Dracula, Bill, so your real history of the Witches. 225 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by this. I will read this and we 226 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: will have you on to talk about. 227 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 2: We sent it to both of you. Vlad tepis the 228 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 2: real Dracula. 229 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: That's right there. We go. 230 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 2: Don't read Killing the witches before you go on the air, 231 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 2: because you're going to be very frightened. 232 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: Well, that's that's why I have Clay here to make 233 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: sure I don't get scared. Thanks, thanks so much. 234 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 2: All right, thanks for having me in. 235 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: Guys, my friend's inflation is not good and price is 236 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: still very high. Hi, and you know stock market's up, 237 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: it's down, it's up, it's down, crazy choppy financial waters 238 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: right now, So what are you gonna do? 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I can't 266 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: make it up. Also found that lib female politicians based 267 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: on AI facial recognition are miserable. I'm not making that 268 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: up there. So it turns out technology still has uses. 269 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: You had a thought of that one, I got a 270 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: couple one. 271 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 3: This would suggest that resting bitchface is directly connected to 272 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 3: left wing politics when it comes to women, which does 273 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 3: make some sense. The other thought on this, Buck, I 274 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 3: have watched a lot of protests over the years, and 275 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 3: especially in the last several years. I have almost never 276 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 3: seen a hot protester, I would. 277 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: Argue to you. 278 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 3: And I'm curious that people out there agree with me 279 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 3: that there are almost no good looking women that ever 280 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 3: show up to protest anything. 281 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: Because I've set here. 282 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 3: And watched all these CNN broadcasts, all these MSNBC broadcasts. 283 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 3: Have you ever seen a woman in a vagina hat 284 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 3: that you thought, oh, she's kind of hot. That vagina 285 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 3: hat really brings out her eyes. I gotta tell you, 286 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 3: I've never seen an attractive protester, So this, I would suggest, 287 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 3: is even the next level. I bet protesters are the 288 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 3: ugliest women on the planet. I think I hope we 289 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 3: can get AI research on this, and if this is 290 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 3: where AI is going to lead us, this is at 291 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 3: least an entertaining version of the e Hey. 292 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: I just also think that we have We've got close 293 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: to a fifty to fifty audience here male female, right, 294 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: And for all the ladies listening to Clay and Buck, 295 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm pleased to tell all of our female 296 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: audience whether you're twenty or forty or eighty, you're better 297 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: looking than your LIB counterparts. I'm just ladies, I'm just 298 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: bringing you the science. And this is why you have 299 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: to listen to Clay and Buck, because we bring you 300 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: the facts. 301 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: Do you think men are also better looking who vote Republican? 302 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: So they got into this a little bit, They got 303 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: a little more into the weeds on this one. They 304 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: say that LIB men show less facial expression in general, 305 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: which I think they're just covering up for the fact that, yes, 306 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: we're well Clay, it needs more study. We'll crunch the 307 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: numbers on this one. 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I'm really curious 332 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: about your reaction for any who watched it last night. 333 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: Brett Bear, have you ever done the Brett Bear Panel? 334 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: It's kind of like a DC institution. I used to 335 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: do it. 336 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,479 Speaker 3: You mentioned that I think Brett Bear is the only 337 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 3: Fox News host who has never had me on a show. Oh, 338 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 3: I'm thinking through this. I think he is the only Obviously, 339 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,479 Speaker 3: it's not an opinion show so much. I've done Shannon, 340 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 3: who you know, we've had on the show a bunch. 341 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 3: I don't think we have we had to be fair. 342 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 3: Have we had Brett on this show. 343 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: No, but I'm sure I'll have a book or he'll 344 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: for some reason we'll have him on. He used to 345 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,239 Speaker 1: when I lived in d C. Because that's the thing. 346 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: You got to be there, so you have to coordinate 347 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: it with when you're there, and so when I lived there, 348 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: I used to do the panel pretty regularly. But yeah, look, 349 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: it's it's a DC politics institution. It's very you know, 350 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: our friend Molly Hemingway goes on there, and and then 351 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: Dominich is a regular on there. I mean, there's a 352 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: very very sharp people who are regular political analysts on 353 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: that panel. Anyway, this but this Brett is also just 354 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: a host, does interviews in his on his own and 355 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: he interviewed Trump. So I want to know what you 356 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: think about that interview, if it changed change your opinion 357 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: one way or the other. If you watch the interview 358 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: and you're like, I don't care, I don't want to 359 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: hear it, right, I mean, you know, because then who cares? Right? 360 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: But if you watched it and it changed your feeling 361 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: positively or negatively about some aspect. I'm curious eight hunder 362 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: two way two two waight a two. So here we go. 363 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say I don't care, but I'm saying we're 364 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 1: not going to take calls. We're like, well, I feel 365 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: the same way, right, that's the point. And here we 366 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: have a moment that got a lot of attention because 367 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: one of the things we've been asking. We talk here 368 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: about strategy for Trump to win. How do we start 369 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: off the show? And Clay's going to get back to 370 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: it in the third hour a little bit with the 371 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: DOJ and the politicized mess. If you don't win, it's 372 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: not going to change all right. Otherwise we just whine, 373 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: we are sitting around. There's unfair to listen crying about it. 374 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 5: No. 375 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: No, we have to achieve the political power through the 376 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: system that we have. As much as there can be 377 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: some cheating, as much as there can problems within that system, 378 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: we have to achieve the power necessary to do the reforms. 379 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: And people say, oh, that's stupid in it, Well, then 380 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 1: we've just given up and so then the other side 381 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: wins entirely. Right, those are the options at some macro level. 382 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: So we want Trump to win. And part of the 383 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: discussion about how Trump wins is winning over those key voters. 384 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: Not even talking about a primary. Now Trump's up, you know, 385 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: forty points or something the primary. We're talking general for 386 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: this conversation, So how does he win? He was asked 387 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: by Brett about the suburban female voters that had been 388 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: a problem post twenty sixteen Play clip twenty eight. 389 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 4: More independent voters watch Fox News than any other TV 390 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 4: source Bleston used to watch it. They do watch those voters, 391 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 4: usually less. They usually make up all the difference in 392 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 4: the election. And so to the female independent voter in 393 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 4: the suburbs who struggled with family financing because of inflation, 394 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 4: she's now against Biden, disapproves of Biden, but wasn't with 395 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 4: you in twenty twenty and so far is a hard 396 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 4: no for you in twenty twenty four. 397 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: But what do you say to that? 398 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 5: At the right poem? 399 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: All right, now, can we clay you know what? Let 400 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: me let me go on, because he continues here, let's 401 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: play clip. This is a continuation of that same part 402 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: of the conversation. Uh thir, sorry, twelve oh no, that 403 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: way was that was that we just did that one. 404 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: Let's play thirteen. 405 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 5: First of all, I won. 406 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty by a lot. Okay, let's get that straight. 407 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 4: I won in twenty twenty. You know, and if you 408 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 4: look at all the tapes, if. 409 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 5: You look at everything that you want to look at, 410 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 5: you take a look at truth to vote where they 411 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 5: have people stuffing the ballot boxes on tapes or let's 412 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 5: go to reason looking wait a minute, let's go to reason, FBI, Twitter, 413 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 5: Let's go to reason. The fifty one agents all corrupt stuff, Brit, 414 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 5: I understand about that's action, but that's cheating when. 415 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 4: They lost the twenty twenty election. 416 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 5: Bett, you take a look at all of the stuff ballots, 417 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 5: you take a look at all of the things, including 418 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 5: things like the fifty one intelligence agents. 419 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 4: Were recounts in all of the swing states, there was 420 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 4: no significant what we're trying to get recapcled. 421 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: What do you make of a click? 422 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 3: So, if Trump is going to win, first of all, 423 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 3: I agree with him. The twenty twenty election was rigged. Okay, 424 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 3: put it out there. He's right about the fifty one agents. 425 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 3: He is right about the Hunter Biden story now being shared. 426 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 3: He is right about the big tech big media, Democrat 427 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 3: party collusion. All of it is right, all of it 428 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 3: is real. And I've been saying this for a long time. 429 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 3: If you look at Wisconsin, you look at Georgia, and 430 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 3: you look at Arizona, twenty thousand ish votes change in 431 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 3: those states that has switched from Biden to Trump. He 432 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 3: wins a two sixty nine to two sixty nine race, 433 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 3: goes to the House of Representatives, and I think Democrats 434 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 3: would have stormed the House of Representatives and tried to 435 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 3: prevent Trump from being re elected. Okay, I believe he's 436 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 3: one hundred percent right about being rigged. I think the 437 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 3: data also shows Buck that the people who are going 438 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 3: to make the decision in twenty twenty four overwhelmingly reject 439 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 3: the idea that the twenty twenty election was stolen and 440 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 3: they don't want to talk about the past. 441 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: And Buck, I think. 442 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 3: Ultimately this is the biggest challenge Trump has. If you believe, 443 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 3: as I do, that the election was rigged, and if 444 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 3: you go a step further and believe that Democrats rig 445 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 3: the election and stuffed ballots and all this stuff, why 446 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 3: would they not do it in twenty twenty four? And 447 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 3: I have not heard Trump answer that question in a way. 448 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 3: And I know a lot of you out there listening 449 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 3: to us right now. You're diehard Trump people, and you 450 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 3: agree with me that the election was rigged. Well, if 451 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 3: you think Democrats would rig the election in twenty twenty, 452 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 3: why would they not rig it in twenty twenty four. That, 453 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 3: to me is the essence of the self defeating Trump argument. 454 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 3: Imagine a world buck where jam Sanquary six doesn't happen, 455 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 3: where Trump says, hey, I think they rig the election, 456 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 3: but Biden has won by these terms. I'm gonna do 457 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 3: something crazy. I'm going to announce that I'm running in 458 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four to beat him. But in the meantime, 459 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 3: I encourage all my supporters to step back. I think 460 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 3: Biden's going to be a disaster. And then he just 461 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 3: steps back. Jan six doesn't happen, and he doesn't aggressively 462 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 3: push the argument that twenty twenty was stolen. I think 463 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 3: Trump would be winning overwhelmingly in twenty twenty four because 464 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 3: Biden has been the most disastrous president of our lives. 465 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 3: My big concern here is when Trump argues about twenty twenty, 466 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 3: he makes the twenty twenty four election buck a referendum 467 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 3: on Donald Trump, twenty twenty four has to be a 468 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 3: referendum on Joe Biden and his disastrous incumbency, not a 469 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 3: referendum on Donald Trump, because then I'm afraid we lose. 470 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: Look, we both like history a lot, and not just 471 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: because it's fascinating, but also it can give you some 472 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: sense of what we're dealing with in the president. There 473 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: are lessons, there are patterns, there are things that you 474 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: can see that repeat themselves or and I think that 475 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: when we look at the incumbent the record of incumbent presidents, 476 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: unless I am mistaken, play, the last time a Democrat 477 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: beat or lost as an incumbent was Jimmy Carter in 478 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty. So just just everyone remember this. Okay, the 479 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: last time a Democrat incumbent president lost to any Republican 480 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: was forty forty four years ago. So two years ago. Yeah, yeah, 481 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: forty two years ago. Sorry wait whatever, Well, we're radio hosts, 482 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: you get what I'm saying. Yes, over forty years now, 483 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: I'm not saying this isn't a oh throw your hands up, 484 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: Oh the system is destroyed and we can't do anything. No, 485 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: because you know, we're happy warriors here folks, we stay 486 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 1: in the fight no matter what. But it's just a 487 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: reminder that it is really really hard. Take aside everything else, 488 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: what is the only way that Democrats, even with all 489 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: the shenanigans, the only way they're able to win In 490 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: twenty twenty COVID once in a century pandemic, with the 491 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: entire medical establishment getting it wrong and lying about it 492 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: and everything else right, I mean, it was a meteor 493 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: strike hits the world kind of moment, or an asteroid 494 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: or whatever the bigger one is. And what we're looking 495 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: at now is an incumbent president who isn't going to 496 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: have that situation We would assume very unlikely, and it's 497 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: really tough to beat an incumbent president, even one as 498 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: decrepit and absurd as Joe Biden. So this is why 499 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: when we talk strategy, I just think it's look at 500 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: what happened in twenty twenty two. Everybody, you know, we 501 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: thought it was gonna it should have been a layup, 502 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: and it wasn't. So we have to deal with the 503 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: political realities as they face us in this country, and 504 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: it's going to be a steep uphill climate doesn't mean 505 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: it's impossible, does he mean Trump can't do it, doesn't 506 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: mean anyone can't do it. But it is really tough 507 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: to unseat somebody who's already president and has the Democrat 508 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: apparatus behind them and hasn't happened, as we said, in 509 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: over forty years. I'll give you a sports analogy that 510 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: I bet Donald Trump, because Donald Trump's a big sports fan, 511 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: I bet he's seen this happen sometimes. Do you know 512 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: what is a sort of. 513 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 3: A ridiculous, you know, showmanship way to put an awful 514 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 3: game behind you that sometimes a football coach will use. 515 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 3: Buck Sometimes they say we're not even gonna look at 516 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 3: the film because it was such a disaster. I have 517 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 3: seen football coaches actually stage burials of the footage of 518 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 3: an awful game, and you have the whole team gather around, 519 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 3: and you say, look, this tape was such a poor 520 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 3: reference of what you guys can do as a team 521 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,479 Speaker 3: that we are just going to bury the tape of 522 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 3: this game, right. And I'm using that as as an 523 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 3: example here because I think the only way Trump wins, 524 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 3: and I want all of you to listen to this 525 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 3: and think about it, is if he says, look, twenty 526 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 3: twenty was rigged. The country got screwed. We were done 527 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 3: a disservice by Joe Biden's election. But I cannot talk 528 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 3: about I'm saying it speaking as if I'm Trump. I 529 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 3: cannot talk about twenty twenty anymore because it's in the past. 530 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: If you want to win the super Bowl. 531 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 3: You can't talk about the last super Bowl, Right, You've 532 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 3: got to focus on the next game. 533 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 2: Right. 534 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,719 Speaker 3: Every athlete knows what I'm talking about. Trump has to 535 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 3: make that pivot. And the question that Brett Baher asked him, 536 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 3: which we played for you, is how are you going 537 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 3: to win back suburban moms? And the way that you're 538 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 3: going to win back suburban moms is by pointing out 539 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 3: how disastrous Joe Biden has been and why your policies 540 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 3: will be better than Joe Biden's were in the past. 541 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 3: And if Trump can't do that, he's going to lose 542 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 3: because if he it makes the referendum twenty twenty and 543 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 3: he makes himself effectively the story, then Joe Biden's gonna 544 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 3: win again, and that cannot happen. We'll take some of 545 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 3: your calls eight hundred and two A two two eight 546 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 3: A two also top of the next hour. 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Several of you want to weigh in 574 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 3: with the Brettbayer interview with Donald Trump and what you 575 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 3: thought about it, So let's dive into those at the 576 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 3: top of the next hour. Just as a preview, we'll 577 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 3: discuss in greater detail the legal situation surrounding Hunter Biden, 578 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 3: the two tiers of justice. Get your popcorn. It will 579 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 3: be entertaining Tim and Cincinnati, Ohio. What did you think 580 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 3: of that interview and certainly the clips that we played 581 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 3: not just right then, but also with Bill O'Reilly at 582 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 3: the tart top of this hour. 583 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 6: Well, I love you Guyed and love Bill O'Reilly. So 584 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 6: we'll get that out of the way. The interview that 585 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 6: oh shoot, Brett had with him. I thought that Brett 586 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 6: was very direct with him, but I think Trump still 587 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 6: is the guy for twenty four and I've voted for 588 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 6: him twice. But I did get a little bit of 589 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 6: a setback when I heard that Mike Pompeo is not 590 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 6: going to support him. 591 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting, Buck. Have you heard Pompeo endorse anybody? 592 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 3: He obviously flirted for a long time with running himself, 593 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 3: but I don't think he's endorsed anyone else yet, right, No, 594 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 3: And I'm curious what happened there, you know, because there 595 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 3: are some people who are running I think very obviously 596 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,719 Speaker 3: as adjuncts to the Trump campaign, and I don't think 597 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 3: pump Pale was willing to do that. So I'd be 598 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 3: interested to see what the if we ever find out 599 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 3: what the behind the sceneses. But he is not supporting 600 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 3: Donald Trump, and I will I will be honest. That 601 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 3: was news to me when I saw Saved You last night. 602 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 3: I did not know that, and at Tim, I think 603 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 3: some people will take note of that. Thank you very much, 604 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 3: Tim for calling in from Cincinnati, also for your kind words, 605 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 3: and we'll tell Uncle Bill too. You've got great taste 606 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 3: across the board. 607 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: Brad in Miami, a fellow Miami And what's going on, Brad, hen. 608 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 7: Buck, how are you listening to you every day. 609 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 2: Love the show. 610 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: Thank appreciate that. 611 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 7: So I'm a Trump supporter. Trump seemed very timid on 612 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 7: three of the main issues. Main the main one with 613 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 7: the independent woman women. He did not answer that question, 614 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 7: and not just for women, anybody on the since that 615 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 7: was not a great response. Uh, he's got to come 616 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 7: direct with that. If he continues on in that direction, 617 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 7: he's gonna lose a lot of people on the He 618 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 7: can't keep saying he won, he won. The reality is 619 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 7: he didn't and we got to move forward. He's got 620 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 7: a game at vote on the classified documents. It seemed 621 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 7: like he's hiding something. He was very timid. Brett definitely 622 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 7: controlled that interview. It's you know whose side it was 623 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 7: bred on Fox News. You know, he addressed that a 624 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 7: little bit, but he's got a It seemed like he 625 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 7: was hiding something that was not the Trump that we 626 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 7: all know and love, and uh, you know, for those 627 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 7: that are debating on the scientists or any other Republican, 628 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 7: Trump's got to come forward. I think that was one 629 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 7: of the worst interviews I've seen with him. Still going 630 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 7: to vote for him, still going to go forward with him, 631 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 7: but wow, that was looking forward to the second interview tonight. 632 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 3: I think, thank you for the call, and we're going 633 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 3: to take another call here in a moment. But I 634 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 3: would say, in general, Buck, Trump addressing criminal charges that 635 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 3: are currently pending against him, where they are trying to 636 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 3: put him in prison for the rest of his life 637 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 3: is almost unheard of, right, So if he seemed a 638 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 3: bit uncertain in those answers, I'm sure in the back 639 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 3: of his head, Buck, it was because whatever he says 640 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 3: in this interview with Brett Baer is admissible in the court, 641 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 3: and so his argument has to be consistent now in 642 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 3: terms of the defense he's providing, And every criminal defense 643 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 3: attorney in the country, and I've done criminal defense work, 644 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 3: would have been telling Donald Trump, don't address these How 645 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 3: often do you hear guys say I can't talk about 646 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 3: this they are currently, you know, criminal charges pending. I 647 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 3: think that's one reason it seems uncomfortable. 648 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: Anybody who thinks that, Oh, but Trump knows what he's 649 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: doing with this. Guys. The Special Council was launched, and 650 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: it was unfair and it was a witch hunt. I 651 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: get all that, But what do they use as the 652 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: excuse for the witch hunt? The Lester whole interview on 653 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:59,240 Speaker 1: ABC where he said, so I fired Comy over Yeah, 654 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: Comy would tell me what I wanted, So I fired him. 655 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: Boom special counsel. Now they didn't get him in the 656 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,439 Speaker 1: end because there was no no they're there. But these 657 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: are mistakes that can really come back to haunt you 658 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 1: if you were on hold of us. By the way, 659 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: we will get to your calls if you can stay 660 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: with us next hour at some point, or call back 661 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:19,919 Speaker 1: in if you want. 662 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 4: So. 663 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: We had some other folks who wanted to weigh in play, 664 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: but speaking with that criminal trial, I just feel like 665 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: now we see more than ever Democrats want to take 666 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: this all the way. They want to lock Trump up everybody. 667 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: They don't want to give him a plea deal with 668 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: no jail time. They want him in a cell, no doubt. 669 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 3: And we'll talk about that in particular as it associates. 670 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: With Hunter Biden. Get your popcorn. 671 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 3: I'm fired up, and as an attorney, I am disgusted 672 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 3: by what I'm seeing