Speaker 1: Good morning, peep Sen. Welcome to WIKA F Daily with
Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody recording pre recording from the Homebunker. Folks.
Speaker 1: I am really excited, you know that once a month
Speaker 1: I have the great fortune of sitting down with my good,
Speaker 1: good friend, the Reverend Mark Thompson, who is the host
Speaker 1: of Make It Plain. You know, I enjoy these monthly
Speaker 1: conversations with Mark because we get to dive in to
Speaker 1: the there there right, to the nitty gritty, to the
Speaker 1: real talk that you don't get on cable news, the
Speaker 1: nuance and the complexities and the layers of situations around
Speaker 1: race and politics, and the fight for our freedom and
Speaker 1: our rights, the ways in which we are being manipulated
Speaker 1: as a people to keep quiet, to keep comfortable, and
Speaker 1: to not be activated into action. And the conversation that
Speaker 1: Mark and I have today is a robust one, and
Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for it because, you know, we talk
Speaker 1: about one the alarm that The New York Times set
Speaker 1: off with their article with regard to pronouncing to the
Speaker 1: world that talks of a civil war on far right
Speaker 1: social media platforms is up three thousand percent. Yes, you
Speaker 1: heard me right, three thousand percent. Now, I want you
Speaker 1: to understand that during the twenty twenty racial uprisings across
Speaker 1: this country, in the midst of a pandemic, we watched
Speaker 1: a man take his last breath at the hand of
Speaker 1: a white police officer that couldn't even be bothered to
Speaker 1: take his fucking hands out of his pocket as he
Speaker 1: was suffocating a man to death with a lie audience.
Speaker 1: The FBI, the CIA law enforcement arrested were following investigating
Speaker 1: members of Black Lives Matter, members of other advocacy, social
Speaker 1: justice and civil rights organizations, picking up protesters on the
Speaker 1: street that were exercising their right to assemble and their
Speaker 1: right to fight for justice as citizens of a fucking democracy. However,
Speaker 1: when there was chatter in broad fucking daylight, out in
Speaker 1: the open about the insurrection and what was being planned
Speaker 1: and where the feelings were, oh that was let go.
Speaker 1: Oh somehow it'd slipped through the cracks, somehow, they just
Speaker 1: didn't have their finger on that pulse, did they. So
Speaker 1: now here comes to New York Times, damn near two
Speaker 1: years after the insurrection, the dress rehearsal to what they
Speaker 1: really fucking want, which is a civil war, telling us
Speaker 1: once again, hey, hey, hey, anybody home paying attention to
Speaker 1: the fact that these motherfuckers are organizing an arsenal and
Speaker 1: organizing themselves once again and broad daylight. And ain't nobody
Speaker 1: getting arrested, nobody being investigated or picked up, these terrorist
Speaker 1: cells being broken up. No. So I'm wondering, as Mark
Speaker 1: and I delve into this conversation, how our lack of
Speaker 1: self reflection as a nation has played a part in
Speaker 1: where we find ourselves at this present moment. So coming
Speaker 1: up next my wonderful deep dive conversation with my good
Speaker 1: friend the Reverend Mark Thompson, host of Naked Play. Hey,
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Speaker 1: month comes around, I'm always excited about getting into conversation
Speaker 1: with my good, good friend, the Reverend Mark Thompson, host
Speaker 1: of Make It Plain every month. Mark, I look forward
Speaker 1: to our conversations because I think that we get into
Speaker 1: the real reel, the things that aren't being really delved
Speaker 1: into and addressed in mainstream media and news. And one
Speaker 1: of the things that has been on my mind, Mark
Speaker 1: and I have been I'm not gonna mens words, I've
Speaker 1: been scared as hell, and things that are keeping me
Speaker 1: up at night is the fact that, you know, the
Speaker 1: New York Times had reported that calls for a civil war,
Speaker 1: civil war on these far right websites, chat rooms, social platforms,
Speaker 1: across social platforms is up three thousand percent, not three percent,
Speaker 1: not three hundred percent, three thousand percent. I had a
Speaker 1: follower of mine. She lives out east on Long Island,
Speaker 1: where I grew up. She said, Danielle, I've been noticing
Speaker 1: as I'm driving by seeing these flags on people's lawns
Speaker 1: with these stars in a circle. She's like, I kept
Speaker 1: seeing it and so I had to Google it to
Speaker 1: figure out what it was. She goes, you know what
Speaker 1: it is, She said, It's a sign of the civil war.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing that out east on Long Island, people putting
Speaker 1: them putting it in their front yard. So Mark, I
Speaker 1: wanted to get your initial thoughts on what is now
Speaker 1: percolating up in the mainstream. But again, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's still receiving the alarm, this sense of urgency that
Speaker 1: it should be well. Always good to be with you
Speaker 1: as well, Danielle, and I also look forward to our
Speaker 1: wonderful and our lively discussions. First of all, I agree
Speaker 1: it's not getting the attention it deserves because in this
Speaker 1: country people still think fat meat ain't greasy, and even
Speaker 1: though we saw what happened January six people are still like,
Speaker 1: you know, they can't believe it. And it really goes
Speaker 1: back now, we go back before Trump. It goes back
Speaker 1: to the Bush doctrine of shock and awe, and when
Speaker 1: you have shock and awe, people just they aren't prepared
Speaker 1: for it. I don't know yet what it's gonna take now.
Speaker 1: I think obviously more people get it because of January sixth,
Speaker 1: but that is really a very surface kind of a thing.
Speaker 1: Those of us who are involved in politics full time,
Speaker 1: particularly involved in civil rights, we saw January sixth for
Speaker 1: what it was and what what was it? It really
Speaker 1: started out as sort of a rebellion or civil war cosplay,
Speaker 1: and then folks got swept up in it. Don't take
Speaker 1: but a handful of the mob to take it to
Speaker 1: the next level, and that's what they did. Okay, So
Speaker 1: I think people do need to take this more seriously.
Speaker 1: But there's a problem with American history and culture, like
Speaker 1: we don't want to teach we don't want people to
Speaker 1: learn black history anymore. We're using CRT to wipe out
Speaker 1: conscious curriculum throughout the country. What America has been teaching
Speaker 1: for years is decades is a sanitized version of the
Speaker 1: Confederacy that has been part of the struggle along in
Speaker 1: my early days in radio, when I was even still
Speaker 1: on AM radio, that was a constant debate I was
Speaker 1: having about what there was and Clarence Thomas was involved
Speaker 1: in a one time. Was a civil war really about slavery?
Speaker 1: You still don't want to deal with that question? It was,
Speaker 1: Oh no, it wasn't. It was just that was it
Speaker 1: was about the economy. What the economy was slavery? Okay,
Speaker 1: So that's it. And because we have not really dealt
Speaker 1: with that, and let's be frank that now this history
Speaker 1: is tried and true. There was not all this romanticism
Speaker 1: of the Confederacy immediately after Confederacy. It wasn't until the
Speaker 1: segregationist movement really picked up in the forties and late forties,
Speaker 1: mid to late forties leading into the fifties that the
Speaker 1: strong thermons of the world began to say, wait, way,
Speaker 1: we can work this, we can market this. That's just
Speaker 1: like the Second Amendment. Prior to the sixties. In the
Speaker 1: history of law review articles going back to the eighteen hundreds,
Speaker 1: there was never a single law review article in the
Speaker 1: history of this country that said the Second Amendment was
Speaker 1: about individual rights, keeping bare arms, so they're able to
Speaker 1: manipulate things. So then they start away, We're gonna pay
Speaker 1: some people in the sixties in law schools to manufacture
Speaker 1: law review articles to change this same thing with the
Speaker 1: Civil War and Confederacy. We're gonna sanitaze, We're gonna start
Speaker 1: building the statues. We're gonna sanitaze this, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: use this to say we want our South back. We're
Speaker 1: going to use this to prevent desegregation in the South.
Speaker 1: So this is the importance of history. This is why
Speaker 1: not teaching history, not understanding history. So I'm one of
Speaker 1: the last thing announced stop. I want anybody under the
Speaker 1: sound of our voices who's listening to this show, just
Speaker 1: send us a message. Whatever. Name another country in the
Speaker 1: world that has had civil war and they still celebrating,
Speaker 1: they romanticize it. It's I think, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: it's against the dog We got first of them here
Speaker 1: in Germany. It's against law to run around here and
Speaker 1: act like a Nazi and reminisce that they will lock
Speaker 1: you up. The queen just that. Did you see anybody
Speaker 1: from a British Civil war history out then costume or
Speaker 1: trying to talk about doing something or the gunpowder plot
Speaker 1: into those things. No, because people live in the reality
Speaker 1: of today. Most people don't go back to that. If
Speaker 1: you want to do something new, do something new, be
Speaker 1: original at least, But who goes back to recreate their
Speaker 1: own countries civil wars. So you have that cosplay plus
Speaker 1: the illness that exists in this country that was exacerbated
Speaker 1: obviously about the drum presidency. You know what, I what
Speaker 1: I think right, and you touch on so many things,
Speaker 1: which is the sickness of this country really is our
Speaker 1: denial of our history and the true history of it.
Speaker 1: That's really where the sickness comes from. We always want
Speaker 1: to refer to slavery as the original sin. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't know, to your point, who goes around then cost
Speaker 1: play and sin right in a way that you see
Speaker 1: the white lover is still of the Confederacy and of
Speaker 1: white supremacy doing on a regular basis. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: not only do we celebrate we're still in the twenty
Speaker 1: first century taking down statues that were erected to treason
Speaker 1: because that's what it was. And that's the thing that
Speaker 1: I don't you don't need to be a student of
Speaker 1: history to understand that you had a divide in this
Speaker 1: country of people who wanted to overthrow right legitimate government
Speaker 1: in order to continue the practice of enslaving other human
Speaker 1: beings because they couldn't figure out or understand how to
Speaker 1: advance an economy without free, enslaved, tortured, brutalized labor. Right,
Speaker 1: So when you decide then that that is not an
Speaker 1: actual stain, because if it was truly seen as America's
Speaker 1: original sin, that we wouldn't celebrate it in the way
Speaker 1: that we do, right, that it would be frowned upon,
Speaker 1: and it would be taught in such a way that,
Speaker 1: to your point, Germany reconciled with its own learnings around
Speaker 1: how the hell you were in a country that was
Speaker 1: that exterminated, that killed, that brutalized, that snuffed out six
Speaker 1: million human beings? How did you all get on board
Speaker 1: with that? Right? So I think that we see now,
Speaker 1: Mark this to return to book banning, this, return to
Speaker 1: segregating our curriculum, because that's what we're doing. Because you will,
Speaker 1: in private schools and in some independent schools, they'll continue
Speaker 1: to learn right, they'll continue to understand critical thought and
Speaker 1: be prepared for the world around them. But it's why
Speaker 1: the question is never asked of these right wing Republicans,
Speaker 1: why don't you want Americans to know the truth? Why
Speaker 1: are you so afraid of white Americans understanding the entirety
Speaker 1: of this country's history? And so, you know, Mark, do
Speaker 1: you even see because I want to really tap into
Speaker 1: this call for a civil war, but I feel like
Speaker 1: folks are calling for a civil war because they don't
Speaker 1: They honestly don't even understand most people that are that
Speaker 1: are doing this the brutality of war, right, Or maybe
Speaker 1: they do and they don't care, But do you like
Speaker 1: talk to me about how this denial of history is
Speaker 1: part of our continued trauma and cycle of what we're
Speaker 1: dealing with in this country right now. It's not only
Speaker 1: the denial of history, it's a denial of the ongoing
Speaker 1: reality that exists in this country, and we find trying
Speaker 1: to rear its ugly head more and more around the world. Look,
Speaker 1: we just had in Italy. Now we know they just
Speaker 1: selected the woman Mussolini again, folks, broken record. We need
Speaker 1: to go back and listen to God arrest her soul,
Speaker 1: doctor Francis Chris Welson. And while she was a clinician,
Speaker 1: I mean she said some very clear political and socio
Speaker 1: cultural things. We exist within a global system of racism
Speaker 1: and white supremacy. That is the bedrock of what is
Speaker 1: going on here. Now. People don't want to talk about that.
Speaker 1: They're uncomfortable with that. Yeah, we don always want to
Speaker 1: talk about race, Margios, don't talk about race. But when
Speaker 1: you wake up, when we wake up in the morning
Speaker 1: to start our day, the global system of racism and
Speaker 1: white supremacy has already been at work all night and
Speaker 1: it is institutionalized. And the sooner we accept that and
Speaker 1: confront that. So that system exists, These civil war flare ups,
Speaker 1: these conversations Q and nine, all this stuff is a
Speaker 1: result of that. And until we call it out and
Speaker 1: snuff it out, it's going to continue to be a
Speaker 1: problem for us. And look, this goes all the way
Speaker 1: around some of us a black food. We don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about that, you know, because it's easier sometimes
Speaker 1: keep our head in the stands and just in saying
Speaker 1: and go here with our daily function. You know, we
Speaker 1: don't want to take it on, but we have to.
Speaker 1: We don't have a choice. Um. I find in my life,
Speaker 1: my life is healthier when I confront the real enemies, y'all.
Speaker 1: When we don't confront the real enemies, then we tend
Speaker 1: to take things out on one another. That's my that's
Speaker 1: my clinical advice. You know, if we are confronting the
Speaker 1: real problem. How many of us have problems at work
Speaker 1: and then come this is this is deal with that
Speaker 1: local matter, just in your immediate local situation, local life,
Speaker 1: immediate life problems in the workplace. We bring that home
Speaker 1: and take it out on our loved ones. That's what
Speaker 1: that's that's that's human nature. Um. But it takes a
Speaker 1: level of discipline and understanding. And this comes through education,
Speaker 1: This comes through enlightenment, This comes from information being power.
Speaker 1: So wait a minute, wait, wait, wait, my loved ones
Speaker 1: aren't there. I mean, I don't need to be hard
Speaker 1: on them, but I don't need to mistreat them. I
Speaker 1: don't need to nail them to the cross because I'm
Speaker 1: being nailed to the cross at work. I'm being niled
Speaker 1: to the cross in the large society. I need to
Speaker 1: combat these problems where they exist. You know, I have
Speaker 1: people call me all the time. Man, I'm having a
Speaker 1: problem to work. Okay, well let's let's take a hit on.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if I really should say anything.
Speaker 1: Why are you calling me? You know, you know if
Speaker 1: we don't, because otherwise you're going to internalize it. And
Speaker 1: I think too many of us do that. I get it.
Speaker 1: It's hard the day to day. Folks are struggling trying
Speaker 1: to make ends meet. There are no living wages, so
Speaker 1: that's part of it. Two, it's hard to mobilize people
Speaker 1: when folks are just struggling to get bad in here.
Speaker 1: I come here, come that Mark Thompson, that Daniel Moody.
Speaker 1: Trying to get us mobilized. Do something. We got to
Speaker 1: go to work. We ain't got time for none of this.
Speaker 1: So this is what's important. So the minimum you can do,
Speaker 1: broken record again, is vote and take seriously every election,
Speaker 1: including where if you live in a community where they
Speaker 1: still have an elected school board urgent. So we got lazy.
Speaker 1: We elect first black president, and we figured that's that's
Speaker 1: all the vote we need to do. Vote for the president,
Speaker 1: don't vote for nothing else, and that the risk don't matter.
Speaker 1: Big mistake. School board, local elections, mayor city account If
Speaker 1: the mayor controls the school system, you like that mayor up,
Speaker 1: you hold that mayor accountable. That's the very least we
Speaker 1: can do. Besides, I was on a zoom just the
Speaker 1: other night with some folks dealing in education and fighting
Speaker 1: this backlash year against CRT. I remember when we were
Speaker 1: in the fight, Danielle back in the early nineties for
Speaker 1: African centered curriculum, and in that battle it got to
Speaker 1: water down to multicultural curricular You probably remember some of
Speaker 1: those terms, y'all, and then we end up with nothing.
Speaker 1: But the difference then was that people were mobilized, People
Speaker 1: were showing up the school board meetings, people were engaged.
Speaker 1: We must get back to that, because it starts fundamentally
Speaker 1: there at the education level, it continues in the voting booth,
Speaker 1: and then even in the seasons we aren't voting, we
Speaker 1: need to continue to mobilize, organize, be in the streets,
Speaker 1: call out the corporate powers, the businesses that are supporting
Speaker 1: racism and white supremacy. Stop and I'm gonna say this,
Speaker 1: and I'm talking too much. This is important for us
Speaker 1: as African Americans, as you know, really as Africans around
Speaker 1: the world, as black people. Disinformation is targeting us more
Speaker 1: than any other group of people. What Danielle is telling
Speaker 1: us today, what the New York Times is telling us,
Speaker 1: is that they are using their social media to mobilize
Speaker 1: the civil war. Yes, but social media is being used
Speaker 1: to divide us, Yes, to turn us and gets one another.
Speaker 1: Boycott the woman king. Don't vote for Stacey Abrams because
Speaker 1: she don't do nothing for black men. That's not real,
Speaker 1: that's not organic, that's not a natural thing coming out
Speaker 1: of our community. These are hired hitt accounts, if not bots,
Speaker 1: that have infiltrated our community. Y'all. Remember when I nobody
Speaker 1: gonna notice. Rememberhen everybody's a clubhouse, all we own Clubhouse.
Speaker 1: Every night on Clubhouse, say has several rooms where they
Speaker 1: were debating Africans versus African Americans. Why why was that
Speaker 1: going on? Who was instigating that that was purposely to
Speaker 1: divide us? Why should we boycott the woman king? Why
Speaker 1: should we not support reparations? Why are people telling black
Speaker 1: men not to vote? Stay sabers sharing another thing for
Speaker 1: black men? What's Brian Kempt doing for black men? Come on, see,
Speaker 1: I'm supped to show you the opposite of what social
Speaker 1: media is doing to our community. It's dividing us and
Speaker 1: keeping us confused while it's being helped and the social
Speaker 1: media executives, the owners of it are promoting it. They're
Speaker 1: using it to mobilize to have this dog on civil war.
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Speaker 1: marked my goodness because I have not been thinking about
Speaker 1: the ways in which you know, so I think I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about this now. I'm thinking about the fact that
Speaker 1: when BLM, when we were protesting in the summer of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, you got the FBI and the CIA scouring
Speaker 1: through our chat room, scouring through our social media sites. Right,
Speaker 1: flag here, flag there, they rounded up like over a
Speaker 1: thousand people across this country that we're protesting the murder
Speaker 1: in broad frigging daylight of George Floyd. Three thousand percent
Speaker 1: is up where the FBI and the CIA, Where where
Speaker 1: they pull in, where they pull in these people out
Speaker 1: from their computer, out from behind their computers and putting
Speaker 1: up flags and saying that this is terrorists organism, Like
Speaker 1: this is terrorists organizing, This is this, that and the
Speaker 1: other thing. Where are the bustins on this? And this
Speaker 1: is where I say that this is how people begin
Speaker 1: to lose faith and hope because when you start to
Speaker 1: see the ways in which our community, the black community,
Speaker 1: is continually broken down, discombobulated, misinformed on purpose so that
Speaker 1: we can't organize for the sake of our power, our
Speaker 1: collective power to seek justice. But then these mfers over
Speaker 1: here are organizing to overthrow a government, to kill members
Speaker 1: of the FBI, members of their own goddamn part. And
Speaker 1: it's just like, oh, it's just a locker room talk
Speaker 1: that's happening right now. We don't use January sixth and
Speaker 1: saying that that was the dress rehearsal, which is what
Speaker 1: every black person said on that day, that this is
Speaker 1: just the dress rehearsal. So Mark, like, if the city, like,
Speaker 1: we tell people, and because this is what I want
Speaker 1: to get to, we tell people, and I tell people,
Speaker 1: you gotta vote, You got to show up and vote.
Speaker 1: You not voting is essentially voting for the opposition. You're
Speaker 1: not voting is essentially voting for your own oppression. However,
Speaker 1: I also recognize that we are operating inside of systems
Speaker 1: that we're not built for us. That we're operating. We're
Speaker 1: talking about right now, where is where are our city
Speaker 1: our national security agencies in terms of protecting us from
Speaker 1: domestic terrorism that is on the rise that they see.
Speaker 1: So how do you tell people to go ahead and
Speaker 1: vote and and vote into a system that we just
Speaker 1: have said, by virtue of the few examples that we've given,
Speaker 1: ain't about us. Yeah, that's a good point, and it
Speaker 1: is difficult. It is it is hard to motivate. But
Speaker 1: this is going to take some level of attrition. The
Speaker 1: more we vote for progressive candidates up and coming, eventually
Speaker 1: this generation that we're up against is going to die out.
Speaker 1: And that includes even the safe Democrats, even the Merrick
Speaker 1: Garlands who clearly can't walk and choo gun at the
Speaker 1: same time. You know, he found written. Now, let's be honest,
Speaker 1: we can take credit for what we can take credit for.
Speaker 1: There was the public outcry for him to do something,
Speaker 1: and it got to the point where the law would
Speaker 1: not allow him to continue to ignore Donald Trump's crimes.
Speaker 1: But are we only going to focus on an insurrection
Speaker 1: January sixth, or we're gonna focus on an ongoing insurrection
Speaker 1: when we have the evidence that it exists. New York
Speaker 1: Times has it? Then Mary Garland ought to have even
Speaker 1: more information, and I get it. Uh, well, you know,
Speaker 1: we don't want to do anything to affect the election. Well,
Speaker 1: what day is election? What day is election? They November?
Speaker 1: What whatever it is? The next morning and nine am,
Speaker 1: their need to their needs to be some type of
Speaker 1: accountability for those who are instigating an ongoing insurrection and
Speaker 1: ongoing civil war. Who they're gonna wage the warm Do
Speaker 1: we think that they're gonna take on the US military. No,
Speaker 1: they're gonna come for us back. The man came in
Speaker 1: the Buffalo grocery store looking for black Yep, they're gonna
Speaker 1: take it out on brown people. All people of color
Speaker 1: are gonna take it out on women because women are
Speaker 1: standing up for their bodily autonomy. So, folks, I know
Speaker 1: it seems bleak. We keep saying vote, but it's not.
Speaker 1: It's not just voting, it's voting consistently, and it's voting
Speaker 1: down ballot. And we've just not done that. We've not
Speaker 1: been good at that. We've never even tried it. So
Speaker 1: we can't say it's not gonna work because we haven't
Speaker 1: really done it. It has to become second nature voting,
Speaker 1: protecting the right to vote, it has to become second
Speaker 1: nature to us. And then also being involved, frankly, in
Speaker 1: some level of political activities, some level of civil rights,
Speaker 1: some level of activism outside of voting. They need to
Speaker 1: know at a moment's notice, we're prepared to go to
Speaker 1: the streets. They need to know at a moment's notice
Speaker 1: that we're prepared to be involved in economic accountability. Consumer campaigns,
Speaker 1: which we learn from Color of Change, are more powerful
Speaker 1: than Boycott's today. You know, people I want to do boykot,
Speaker 1: no're gonna do boycott. See, because these brands, these these
Speaker 1: companies can't afford damage to their brand, and so you
Speaker 1: give a brand a bad name, they're done. We have
Speaker 1: the power to you. That's why Fox doesn't have the advertise.
Speaker 1: That's a victory. Fox News does not have any advertisers
Speaker 1: other than pillow guy yep whose cell phone was confiscated.
Speaker 1: That's a victory. We did that, The movement did that.
Speaker 1: You did that, those those who are listening to us today.
Speaker 1: So there are victories that can be won. We just
Speaker 1: we just have to understand, as Frederd Douglas said, eternal vigilants.
Speaker 1: The last thing is they are if people are still
Speaker 1: trying to reminisce about civil war, that's what called eternal
Speaker 1: visions civil wars or eighteen sixty five. What is the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two people still romantis asking that's called E
Speaker 1: two on the vigilants, they ain't given up, but we
Speaker 1: just are we free? We free? Remark no, we're not.
Speaker 1: And and this this country keeps we take two steps
Speaker 1: forward to take one step back. That is the nature.
Speaker 1: Until we eradicate America and the world of the scourge
Speaker 1: of fascism and racism and sexism and white supremacy and
Speaker 1: all the other isms islamophobia, xenophobia, homophobia. Until we eradicate,
Speaker 1: then this is a battle we're got. So you know, basically, folks,
Speaker 1: you got side to side now then you're going to
Speaker 1: be in this fight. Is not a time for comfort.
Speaker 1: I don't know you want more here. I want to
Speaker 1: be comfortable, and I know we all want to be comfortable,
Speaker 1: but our enemies are at the gate. You know it's
Speaker 1: so true, Mark, because the thing too here is that
Speaker 1: I don't think that people are ready to disrupt their comfort.
Speaker 1: I take a look at what is happening to our
Speaker 1: sisters in Iran, to what they are standing up against,
Speaker 1: to what they are doing with the burning of their
Speaker 1: he jobs, the cutting of their hair in public. Young
Speaker 1: women are being murdered in the street. The Internet has
Speaker 1: been blacked out, so we don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1: Do you think that Americans recognize that the enemy is
Speaker 1: really at the gate, that this isn't just hyperbolic Twitter
Speaker 1: talk and chatter. That like what we are seeing take
Speaker 1: place in Iran and what happened to Iran over forty years, right,
Speaker 1: is it can and is happening in the United States.
Speaker 1: So what do you say, how do we move people
Speaker 1: mark out of their comfort Well, again, I think that
Speaker 1: it requires us two. First of all, remind people that
Speaker 1: they're being purposely and deliberately comforted and distracted. So when
Speaker 1: we when we get lost on Netflix and TikTok and
Speaker 1: everything else, our enemies over here they're not going They're
Speaker 1: still working. Three thousand percent increase in civil war talk,
Speaker 1: But how many people noticed that? Nobody did because we're
Speaker 1: we're dealing with another type of opioid, and that is
Speaker 1: the escapism. Everything on tis about that we're sharing TikTok videos,
Speaker 1: we're just funny, laughing ha, and our enemies are organizing
Speaker 1: and mobilized in the midst of all of that. And again,
Speaker 1: what's interesting, See, we gotta talk about this. The algorithms
Speaker 1: know who we are. They know who we are, they
Speaker 1: know they know our likes, they know our interests, so
Speaker 1: they market this opiate to us. But for those on
Speaker 1: the other side, they're getting all information to mobilize themselves
Speaker 1: and strike back, and ultimately it becomes for the media,
Speaker 1: it really becomes in their interest because the more drama
Speaker 1: there is in this era of reality television, so to speak,
Speaker 1: the more drama it is, the more they stay relevant
Speaker 1: with the coverage, with the information. So that's just like
Speaker 1: Trump was put in office because people wanted that drama.
Speaker 1: That drama sold. We couldn't turn away from it. It
Speaker 1: was rubbernecking twenty four seven. It was the accident on
Speaker 1: the freeway. You couldn't turn your head away from non stop.
Speaker 1: And then here we are again with this thing. So folks,
Speaker 1: we you know, hey have fun, enjoy I look at TikTok,
Speaker 1: I do all those things. I like to laugh. I'm funny.
Speaker 1: I think I have a sense of human but charming,
Speaker 1: whatever you wanna call it. I think I don't know
Speaker 1: some people saying album thank you, you are too thank you.
Speaker 1: Even see even Danielle and I can be entertained, but
Speaker 1: it's still in a sense of consciousness And where do
Speaker 1: we get differrom did Gregory account of set the tone
Speaker 1: He was the first comedian. He was TikTok. Before TikTok,
Speaker 1: he was the first comedian to bring a level of
Speaker 1: wokeness and consciousness and awareness into them, into them into
Speaker 1: the comedy. And that's what we have to do in
Speaker 1: our daily lives. We have got to get engaged. Example, yeah, folks,
Speaker 1: everybody run around him said about Dobb's decision and row.
Speaker 1: But where were you we were saying that was gonna happen.
Speaker 1: The woman herself said it when she ran for president.
Speaker 1: Believe that she just wanted to be the president. It's gone.
Speaker 1: How many warnings do we need? There's like the people
Speaker 1: down in Florida didn't want to leave home. What say's
Speaker 1: gonna be a hurricane that talks to other people? I'm
Speaker 1: moving to Florida. You see what just happened. There are
Speaker 1: hurricanes in Florida and getting worse. Why are you trying
Speaker 1: to move to Florida. There's something that there's some cognitive
Speaker 1: yea going on in terms and it might just be
Speaker 1: this American thing because the other country around the world
Speaker 1: looking us and say, you know, Americans are a trip. Uh.
Speaker 1: We When they had the queen's funeral, people out protesting
Speaker 1: in the street because they close down food banks. Economy
Speaker 1: is doing bad. People don't have nothing to eat. But
Speaker 1: you heard that. People spoke up and they say, you
Speaker 1: can't close these fool You can't do this to us
Speaker 1: because the queen is dead while we as taxpayers are
Speaker 1: paying for because you know so in America, as Americans,
Speaker 1: we we we've got to wake up and get involved.
Speaker 1: Join an organization, join a movement. If you are a
Speaker 1: member of a house of worship, seats to that your
Speaker 1: house of worship is involved, not just you know, you're
Speaker 1: worship leader, Muslim, Jewish, Christian, whatever, you are just up
Speaker 1: there seeing platitudes, you know, oh, doing bad. The Lord's
Speaker 1: going to help the Lord to make away somehow. No,
Speaker 1: that's insufficient. The Lord would want us to be engaged,
Speaker 1: to be in a fight, to stand up for justice.
Speaker 1: Pull out those scriptures, get out of the routine. They
Speaker 1: are assembling. They are coming for you and for me.
Speaker 1: And if they take in the words of James bald
Speaker 1: if they take one of us in the morning, they
Speaker 1: will come for the rest of us in the night.
Speaker 1: Good sir, good sir. This is why you talk too much.
Speaker 1: That's why you hunt radio. And we used to you
Speaker 1: and I used to have more dialogue. I'm ask you
Speaker 1: something before we go, can I do let's say answer.
Speaker 1: I know he's on a time limit, um the to
Speaker 1: put his own tame herschel Walker. Oh good god. I
Speaker 1: want to get your reaction to that whole thing and
Speaker 1: that hypocrisy and then his son. See, let me get
Speaker 1: your reaction in because this, you know, first of all,
Speaker 1: because I've said this, and I haven't spent a lot
Speaker 1: of time on herschel Walker on this show, because he's
Speaker 1: a buffoon, and he is the perfect, the perfect outside
Speaker 1: of Kanye West, the perfect puppet for white supremacy. He
Speaker 1: is exactly he embodies exactly what white people think about
Speaker 1: black people. Not that Bright got the right melanin, he
Speaker 1: knew how to throw a football. They'll get behind him
Speaker 1: and we can fill his mouth and fill his mind
Speaker 1: with whatever we want, because all he wants is to be,
Speaker 1: you know, special. All he wants is a pat on
Speaker 1: the head from white folks. Right and when I see
Speaker 1: them right now, not even they're not even pretending. They
Speaker 1: don't give a damn about him paying for an abortion
Speaker 1: for his girlfriend. And frankly, I don't care what I
Speaker 1: care about is hypocrisy. I care about the fact that
Speaker 1: you want to go out there and talk about being
Speaker 1: pro life, and literally, the Daily Beast showed the fucking
Speaker 1: receipts of the fact that, like, you aren't pro life,
Speaker 1: right because you got yourself into a situation that you
Speaker 1: got your girlfriend pregnant, and you're a cheater, you're a philanderer,
Speaker 1: you're all of these things. And so you wanted to
Speaker 1: you want it and exit out right, so it's okay
Speaker 1: for you. And so you see these folks getting up there.
Speaker 1: You had New Gingrich talking about he's a good Christian.
Speaker 1: He's running against a man that is an actual goddamn reverend.
Speaker 1: Don't talk to me about Christianity. Talk to me about
Speaker 1: fucking performance, right, because that's what this is. You all
Speaker 1: perform religiosity. You don't embody Christ. Give me a break.
Speaker 1: So I see these people and I'm just like, but
Speaker 1: I realize Mark this, and I said this on Twitter recently,
Speaker 1: I said media needs to stop trying to shame the devil.
Speaker 1: The devil don't get shamed, right, like we keep trying
Speaker 1: to show Republicans, look at your hypocrisy, look at this,
Speaker 1: look at that, thinking that they are going to turn
Speaker 1: away and be like, oh, I'm sorry, Oh blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. No, they actually came out and said,
Speaker 1: what it is. We don't give a damn what herschel
Speaker 1: Walker does. We want power. So here's the media's job.
Speaker 1: Listen to what they are saying instead of what you
Speaker 1: would like to hear. They are telling you they don't
Speaker 1: give a damn, which means that they don't give a
Speaker 1: damn about you. They don't give a damn about your family,
Speaker 1: they don't give a damn about your vote. They don't
Speaker 1: give a damn about anything but power. So what you
Speaker 1: think they're gonna do once you give it to them
Speaker 1: by virtue of your neglect to vote? What do you
Speaker 1: think is going to happen? So for me, herschel Walker,
Speaker 1: ain't nothing, but ain't nothing but another set of red
Speaker 1: flags in a sea of red flags that we've been
Speaker 1: seeing since Donald Trump came down that escalator. Yeah, you're right,
Speaker 1: you're right, and we need to see that two people
Speaker 1: they're telling they want power. So now, if your enemy
Speaker 1: wants power and all you want is TikTok, something wrong
Speaker 1: with that? Your enemy is saying to your face, we
Speaker 1: don't care how many abortions he paid for. They literally
Speaker 1: look it up. It's on the record. Yep, we want
Speaker 1: the Senate. It says something else too, about the depravity.
Speaker 1: This goes back to Clarence Thomas, you know. And this
Speaker 1: is before me too. And sexual harassment is bad enough.
Speaker 1: There's a whole lot of ways do sexual harassment. But
Speaker 1: I don't know how many people have sexually harassed people.
Speaker 1: And they say to a young woman, these are my
Speaker 1: pubic hairs on top of a coke can. That's a
Speaker 1: whole other level of illness, and that they seek. They
Speaker 1: seek the ill so that they can be manipulated. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring this to a point if you really
Speaker 1: look at the Herschel Walker's story. Though hersche's black man
Speaker 1: like me, this is a black family like yours. You
Speaker 1: look at his son, Christian as as confused as he is.
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of pain in that video. That's
Speaker 1: you're exploiting people who are in pain and who need
Speaker 1: help and who need healing. Her show has been diagnosed
Speaker 1: with multiple personalities order on top of the CTE injury.
Speaker 1: So you can't really, Christian, We're gonna do all these
Speaker 1: things at what point do we not exploit people? At
Speaker 1: what point do we say do we need power more
Speaker 1: than doing harm to people who need help? And I
Speaker 1: hate to see it if the news comes out today
Speaker 1: tomorrow that the Dick Gregor, you say this all the time,
Speaker 1: we gotta be fam of this. The woman who had debortion,
Speaker 1: she's hurt. The son Christian, he's hurt, and his mother hurt.
Speaker 1: Herschel is damaged. I mean, so if the news come
Speaker 1: out tomorrow that we got quadruple suicide, what we're gonna say,
Speaker 1: who's responsible for that? Yet? What they always say now
Speaker 1: is not the time for that conversation. But this is
Speaker 1: a family, a whole family sis when the reality TV
Speaker 1: stuff comes real this this is a whole entire family,
Speaker 1: two families. Because it's two at least two women involved,
Speaker 1: we don't know about all the other people that are
Speaker 1: being exploited. So Trump and Mitch McConnell can have the Senate. Now,
Speaker 1: something's wrong with that. A matter of fact. You know,
Speaker 1: we've all had families who family members who need to
Speaker 1: help and intervention. Okay, so if you can't buy Herschel,
Speaker 1: let's do it. Intervention. You don't need to be in
Speaker 1: the Senate, bro, you need to work on that healing.
Speaker 1: You to get yourself together, get your family together, and
Speaker 1: know when you're being explored in the way that you are,
Speaker 1: do an intervention. If you love Herschel, oh, I love
Speaker 1: Hershe's greatest running back. Herschel's help running back, no question
Speaker 1: about it. We all love Herschel when he played football,
Speaker 1: when he played football, but he ain't running for football.
Speaker 1: He's not running the football. Nope. This is for something
Speaker 1: else and there needs to be a level of healing.
Speaker 1: I'm a reverend one octets two. Good thing. I don't
Speaker 1: run against Herschel's. That'd be my whole platform that if
Speaker 1: you if you support Herschel Walker, don't vote for him.
Speaker 1: Help him, Yeah, help him save himself and his family
Speaker 1: before somebody, because this is terrible and permanent damage to
Speaker 1: be imagine your whole family thing was played out on
Speaker 1: social media. Y'all, all your business, everything that's going on.
Speaker 1: Come on, this is not this is this is not
Speaker 1: the way, and that that in of itself is politics aside,
Speaker 1: that is wrong. It is inhuman and hers. Then they
Speaker 1: have us saying it because he's under control and being exploited. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you you you tie yourself to your oppressor in
Speaker 1: some type of way and think that they ain't going
Speaker 1: to hang you out to dry for their own for
Speaker 1: their own needs and for their own power. And so
Speaker 1: you know, folks, I will close with saying this today
Speaker 1: that you know they don't want to God, they don't
Speaker 1: make no sing, but need to talk to each other.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. They don't make any secret about what they're
Speaker 1: doing and what their plans are. So we need to
Speaker 1: stop acting shocked. We need to stop acting like, oh
Speaker 1: my goodness, I never saw this coming. They are literally
Speaker 1: planning orchestrating, strategizing in broad daylight without any intervention. Right, So, folks, like,
Speaker 1: if you think that this is a joke, let me
Speaker 1: tell you something. The joke is gonna be on you.
Speaker 1: The joke is gonna be on all of us. Because
Speaker 1: when these people get power, they are not ever ever
Speaker 1: going to give it up. The laws will change because
Speaker 1: they will have the power to change the laws. And
Speaker 1: if you think that people are just going to casually
Speaker 1: go along with laws that are going to continue to
Speaker 1: oppress and push them back in closets and push them
Speaker 1: back into slavery, and this, that and the other thing,
Speaker 1: it's not going to happen. So Mark Thompson, my good
Speaker 1: good friend, May's tail ain't fiction. Now I think I
Speaker 1: just something hand. May's tail ain fiction, y'all, It's not.
Speaker 1: It is not. Mark as always. Please you know we
Speaker 1: appreciate your voice so much. You stay safe and you
Speaker 1: come back and see us again next month, which is
Speaker 1: going to be the month of midterm, so good Lord
Speaker 1: knows what we'll be talking about then, but let's pray
Speaker 1: about it. Appreciate, appreciate wok That is it for me today,
Speaker 1: dear friends on okay, app as always, Power to the
Speaker 1: people and to all the people. Power, get woke and
Speaker 1: stay woke as fuck.