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Speaker 1: Got Chris Long here with the green Light pod, former

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Speaker 1: honestly legend on the field, two times Super Bowl champion. Chris,

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Speaker 1: thank you for joining me. How you doing, man, I'm

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Speaker 1: great man.

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Speaker 2: This is a super welcome in place and got to

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Speaker 2: watch practice. Team looks looks good, Man, looks really good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it was.

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Speaker 1: It was a little rainy out. There was a little

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 2: A little secret is the players. Well, I don't want

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Speaker 2: to speak for ablem but definitely the big guys. We

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Speaker 2: like being outside, not on the on the turf, we

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Speaker 2: like being on the grass. And the fact that there's

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Speaker 2: not one hundred degrees in camp. We like a rainy day.

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Speaker 1: So it's been more mild this training camp than I

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Speaker 1: can ever remember. Like, we've had a couple of days

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Speaker 1: where legitimately people have worn some Sweatshirts's crazy, that's great.

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Speaker 1: We're trying to get We're trying to get these young

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Speaker 1: men ready for the keys, for the long days and

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Speaker 1: mother natures. That's why it was down. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I've got so much that I want to ask you,

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Speaker 1: in particular because you kind of overlap my main years

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Speaker 1: the sport. So honestly, like going right back to your

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Speaker 1: draft class two thousand and eight, Matt Ryan changed the

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Speaker 1: direction of the Falcons franchise. They did, Do you have

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Speaker 1: any good Matt Ryan stories for me?

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Speaker 2: Well, honestly, I just acc guy. Me and Matt like

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Speaker 2: didn't get to play BC because they were on the

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Speaker 2: other side of the division. But I remember rooting like

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Speaker 2: for Matt like hell in college because they were playing

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Speaker 2: Virginia Tech, which is our arrival. We could never beat him,

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Speaker 2: but I was like, maybe Matt can beat him in

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Speaker 2: the AC Championship. So I just remember, you know, being

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Speaker 2: in my apartment in two thousand and seven, screaming my

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Speaker 2: him a little bit through the draft. You know, back

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Speaker 2: in the day. Back in the day, we used to

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Speaker 2: go to Radio City Music Hall. It wasn't like, you know,

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Speaker 2: draft wasn't a different city every year, And I don't

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Speaker 2: know how it is now. I'm sure the guys get

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Speaker 2: to know each other, but we spent a lot of

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Speaker 2: time myself, you know, Glen Dorsey, Vernon Goldston.

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Speaker 3: Matt, Matt, Ryan, Jake, long.

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Speaker 2: Number of guys that were there that that year, and

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Speaker 2: Matt always struck me as just a solid person man.

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Speaker 2: And now fast forward we play against each other in

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Speaker 1: And then number one? How dare you?

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Speaker 3: How dare you?

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Speaker 2: I have a laptop, so you've got to I was

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Speaker 2: looking at Tim Robinson sticker, which I love, and I

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Speaker 2: got a bunch of stickers.

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Speaker 3: I have one sticker.

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Speaker 2: That's got the damn chemera And by the way, he's

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Speaker 2: one of my producers here. Aidan's a Pats fan, so

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Speaker 2: you need to I don't even know why you're in here.

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Speaker 2: And then uh, I have a sticker that has the

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Speaker 3: No, that's the other Super Bowl. What was it? Twenty

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Speaker 2: Yep, and uh And somebody was like, damn, You're not

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Speaker 1: Oh no, okay, well that's that's don't let anybody else

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Speaker 1: I'm not yet, and they have to burn.

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Speaker 2: This section exact and then and then the next Matt

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Speaker 2: Ryan thing is full circle. My brother works at CBS

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Speaker 2: And I just I got the utmost respect for Matt

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Speaker 3: To deliver a super Bowl here.

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Speaker 2: And you know, now you got another chapter that's wide open,

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Speaker 2: and you know you hear players openly talking about those aspirations.

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Speaker 2: That means you've got a program that has high hopes.

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Speaker 2: And I think there's some talented guys on this team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great, a great way to kind of

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Speaker 3: No, because you don't.

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Speaker 2: You you don't have to prove it first because nothing

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Speaker 2: And so everybody's starting from zero. And uh, I think

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Speaker 2: anything can happen. I've been through that with the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, something you've talked about on your show before is

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to see, you know, what comes off of

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Speaker 2: What I want to see from Michael Pennix is it

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Speaker 2: just make the layups, you know, Like I think there

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Speaker 3: The big time throws, the hard stuff, the ceiling stuff.

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Speaker 2: I see it. And I'd rather see a guy make

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Speaker 2: And he made some big throws in big spots last

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and well, last thing on the offense, and then

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Speaker 1: I definitely want to get to some defense. Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: Would you rather be going up against a bowling ball,

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Speaker 2: Rather, I'd rather play the player that I'm going to touch,

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Speaker 2: like Bjon, Like there's a chance you don't even get

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: He makes angles look like they're not there. You think

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Speaker 2: it's not just hard in a vacuum to tackle him,

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Speaker 3: And it's in your head.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, hey, I gotta break down here. Is

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Speaker 2: I'd rather Although I have the utmost respect for the

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Speaker 2: I'd rather and you see Frank Gore twice a year,

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Speaker 2: when I used to play like Chris Johnson or somebody

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Speaker 2: and that angle worked on anybody else, but it doesn't

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Speaker 2: work on him. And Bijon. Bijan has the right. We

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Speaker 2: he's great, he's there. So he's just like, yeah, he's

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Speaker 3: He is like a monk.

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Speaker 2: But but but but he's just one of those guys

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Speaker 2: And the less you have to the less you have

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Speaker 1: For sure. That was amazing. I have one last little

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Speaker 3: Oh, inept is inept is. Inept is like unserious. It's

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Speaker 2: There's an allusion to there's no hope there, like you know,

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Speaker 3: Force in nature. I don't know about that.

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Speaker 1: We'll see hurricane season comes a little bit later in

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Speaker 1: Unstoppable, it's gonna unstoppable team.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean I could see them being a Stormtrooper

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Speaker 1: Are they gonna be a Are they gonna be electric?

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Speaker 1: Okay, last one then for you must watch, this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be a must watch team.

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Speaker 2: I think they are going to be. You know, I

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Speaker 2: know y'all have some primetime games this year. I got

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Speaker 2: to me, as you are a little bit must watch

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Speaker 2: a lot of the Falcons games that I've seen are fun,

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Speaker 2: and Falcons fans will tell you because I love Atlanta

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Speaker 2: sports fans are so they're very self aware and they

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Speaker 2: also have a healthy cynicism. But it's kind of like

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Speaker 2: if you there's no there's no bad Atlanta sports game.

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Speaker 2: They're all interesting, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: That's that's why we're so cynical because we've seen the mountaintop,

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Speaker 1: we've seen what and it's kind of like, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, I know, must watch well this this.

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Speaker 1: Is a must listen podcast. I really appreciate you you

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Speaker 1: joining me and honestly, please go check out the green

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Speaker 1: Light podcast. It is one of the ways that I've

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Speaker 1: gotten smarter about football.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it started with you.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, it's been cool to see like your your

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Speaker 1: growth and journeys podcast are so congrats. Thanks man, another

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Speaker 1: thing you've accomplished it again, thank you so much for joining.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: I hope we come back man. Yeah, thanks a lot.

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Speaker 2: Thanks