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Speaker 1: Wow Wow, Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, April first, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we.

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Speaker 3: Can be fools more than just one day of the year.

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Speaker 2: It's me and your man MG Marcus, graduated by Michael

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Speaker 2: Florio and Laqwan Jones. Happy April. Have you had Florio, LaQuan?

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Speaker 2: Have you guys gotten got to buy any April Fools

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Speaker 2: jokes today on the interwebs.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I've gone got yet.

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Speaker 3: I have.

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Speaker 5: I have laughed a lot this morning though, seeing other

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Speaker 5: people get got or any some funny joke stuff like that.

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Speaker 5: But I'm very skeptical today. I read anything and I'm like, true,

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I have not gotten got because I've been on the

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Speaker 4: internet for twenty five years. There's nothing on the Internet

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Speaker 4: that I truly believe. So no, I have not been

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Speaker 4: getting gotten.

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Speaker 2: I think that's probably the way to go, right. It's like,

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Speaker 2: I just don't believe anything on the Internet. I think

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Speaker 2: that you know, oh fake to me.

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Speaker 4: At the end of the day.

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Speaker 3: That's a double edged sword.

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Speaker 2: Right, Like on the one hand, it prevents you from

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Speaker 2: getting fooled by things, but on the other hand, like

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Speaker 2: you know, every.

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Speaker 3: Once in a while something true actually is said on

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Speaker 3: the Internet.

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Speaker 4: The Insiders, the big Insiders pages really get me, like

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Speaker 4: the Tom Pellisaro's that are spelled differently with the Pelsera

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Speaker 4: and then the rappaport Is with the extra It's like,

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Speaker 4: come on, we how old are we now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, that's that's the hard part. You know.

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Speaker 2: It's like the wrap shield or something like that, you know,

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Speaker 2: accounts that that's into to get people.

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Speaker 5: Those branks were funny when you had to actually like

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Speaker 5: earn a blue check and like work for changing your profile,

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Speaker 5: and now it's just literally anyone could do it and

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Speaker 5: it's not funny anymore.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the biggest thing is that for most

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Speaker 2: of us now it's just the humor has worn off,

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Speaker 2: like we can stop.

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Speaker 3: We don't have to do this, Like I'm not in

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Speaker 3: the third grade anymore. I don't have to do it

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Speaker 3: fools jokes, you know, although.

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Speaker 5: I do laugh whenever like one of those posts makes

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Speaker 5: its way onto television, like oh that that always makes

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: Or when you know somebody's being interviewed for the news

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Speaker 2: and they give them a fake name and somehow that

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Speaker 2: that makes it onto the onto the graphic and that

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Speaker 2: sort of thing. So for sure, Uh, we're gonna let's

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Speaker 2: talk about we are going to start our positional breakdowns

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Speaker 2: of the NFL draft, and why not start at quarterback?

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Speaker 2: Kind of an interesting group to talk about, so we'll

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Speaker 2: dive into those. And h LaQuan finished severance last week,

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Speaker 2: so let's go.

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Speaker 3: We can get his thoughts on out e March and uh, he's.

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Speaker 2: Not talking about he's like talking about a luxury cars,

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Speaker 2: talking about the folks at micro data refinements. We'll dive

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Speaker 2: into that too. Spoiler alert for folks who maybe haven't

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Speaker 2: finished season two yet. We'll let you know when we

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Speaker 2: get there. But I want to start with some news

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Speaker 2: because there have been some headlines popping up, especially because

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Speaker 2: I today the league, the cop Petition Committee has basically

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Speaker 2: come up with any rules changes that they're going to

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Speaker 2: see for the next season. And beyond the one that

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Speaker 2: was getting a lot of headlines, that is not being

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Speaker 2: changed or at least banned for now is the tush

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Speaker 2: push that.

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Speaker 3: Is going to stay as it is.

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Speaker 2: That's despite the Packers, the Bills and several other teams

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Speaker 2: really making a as I say, a push, no pun intending.

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Speaker 3: To have the rule banned.

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Speaker 2: Player safety was being touted as the reason for that,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know, Florio, like, really, do we really

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Speaker 2: buy that players safety was the reason they don't want.

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Speaker 3: The tush push in existence.

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Speaker 5: I did see McDermott on in an interview yesterday talking

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Speaker 5: up and how he knows it's been a very successful

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Speaker 5: play for his team, but if there's data that shows

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Speaker 5: that it's putting his players in harm's way, he's going

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Speaker 5: to be against it. And I'll say this, I'm not

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Speaker 5: a doctor. I haven't looked at any of this data.

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to argue against player safety. Like if

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Speaker 5: you come to me and you prove that this play

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Speaker 5: is really dangerous, okay, sure, I'm cool without it.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that's what this is at all.

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Speaker 5: First, I think McDermott is being like against the touch push,

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Speaker 5: but he's gonna be like, but the Buffalo snowplow is

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Speaker 5: still legal, right, But more than anything like Sirianni literally

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Speaker 5: rallying his former ocs to be like keep his play

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Speaker 5: and the Bills are as close to elite on it

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Speaker 5: as you can be, and only the Chiefs could really

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Speaker 4: Like if every team had a guy like that, I'd

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Speaker 5: Sure, okay, we don't need this play. But it's just

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Speaker 5: two teams that are doing it at this high a

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Speaker 5: rate in this successfully. So my comp was like, that'd

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Speaker 5: be like if you were like everyone but Steph Curry

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Speaker 5: anymore because he's too good at it. Like, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: To me, this just feels like a play that that

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Speaker 5: most teams can't stop and they're gonna take their ball

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Speaker 5: and go home if they can't stop it. And I'm like,

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Speaker 5: figure a way out. The Chiefs did right, like like

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Speaker 5: do something to figure it out.

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Speaker 3: Well, the Chiefs figured it out.

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Speaker 2: Basically, Josh Allen decided he can't go right, like he

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Speaker 5: Two years in a row, he's only gone left, and

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Speaker 5: one team figured that out.

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Speaker 4: Like yeah, I mean you know, like I have take

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Speaker 4: some frustration on this, man.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm here for your takes some frustration.

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Speaker 4: First off, between Aaron Rodgers and the tush push. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: over both of them. Can we stop with the tush push?

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Speaker 4: Can we stop with Aaron rodd Just get it over it?

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Speaker 4: Just band it, like, get rid of it, Like I'm

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Speaker 4: tired of talking about it. And now we have to

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Speaker 4: wait until May, conveniently right before Fantasy draft, where we

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Speaker 4: decide if Jalen Hurts is going to get hit or

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Speaker 4: knocked her up, And like, I don't even want to

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Speaker 4: Chris Jones was hurt in the Super Bowl. He hurt

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Speaker 4: his neck. So I'm like, there is no real data

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Speaker 4: because we haven't been tracking it. But just ask the

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Speaker 4: player in trenches, like do they want a Rugby style

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Speaker 4: move in the game, Like, esthetically it looks disgusting. It

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Speaker 4: just looks like a mash of people just going in

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Speaker 4: one direction and it's unstoppable. A seventy six percent success

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Speaker 4: rate last season that the Eagles had on the tush push.

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Speaker 4: That's incredible, that's great. But then it's like this is

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Speaker 4: constantly going to be back and forth, back and forth.

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Speaker 3: About the thing.

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Speaker 4: Just get rid of it. Just I'm done with it.

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Speaker 4: Like that's just my take on it.

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Speaker 2: I look, I maybe there is some players safety involved

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Speaker 2: in this. I don't think that is the primary driving

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Speaker 2: factor for why this has come up, for why this

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Speaker 3: I just don't.

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Speaker 4: I think the wrong coach bring it to the table

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Speaker 4: for that though, Like McDermott, you ran it four times

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Speaker 4: against the Chiefs, you own four and they're effected.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe maybe he brought it up to be saved

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Speaker 3: Be stopped from going there.

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Speaker 5: He did say, he was like, look, if it's legal,

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Speaker 5: we're going to keep doing it.

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Speaker 3: Like, yeah, they.

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Speaker 4: Had more success baking the push push in that game

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Speaker 4: if anything, and go for it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, meanwhile, you have Aaron Glenn on the other

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Speaker 2: side who says, look, I'm a defensive coach. My job

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Speaker 2: is to come up with ways to stop this play.

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Speaker 2: And I think when we look at this version of it,

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Speaker 2: right because Tom Brady was great at sneaks, that was

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Speaker 3: If if it was you know, third and one, fourth

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Speaker 2: You knew the Patriots are going to line up and

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Speaker 2: sneak it, and Brady was going to get it ninety

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Speaker 2: eight percent of the time. I think with this version

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Speaker 2: of it, it's a moment in time. It's a moment

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Speaker 2: in time with a quarterback who squats six hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty pounds or whatever it is that Jalen Hurts does.

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Speaker 3: He's not always going to be this strong.

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Speaker 2: They aren't always going to be able to run this

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Speaker 2: and find a way to stop it as much as possible,

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Speaker 2: but understand that this is a relatively short period of

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Speaker 3: In there, then I will stand down on this.

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Speaker 2: But I think there are a lot of things that

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Speaker 2: the league could be doing that would be considerably safer

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Speaker 2: for players in the long run that no one is

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Speaker 2: talking about because Thursday night football makes a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: So I just you know, I mean, I think if

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Speaker 2: let's just be blunt about what we are actually arguing.

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Speaker 2: I'll say real quick, the other part of this, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean it's getting banned.

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Speaker 3: It could be tweaked. That's it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, those two.

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Speaker 5: Teams are still going to be insanely successful at one

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Speaker 5: yard runs because of their quarterbacks and their and the

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Speaker 5: other team that does it well is the Ravens. What

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Speaker 5: have huge, empowering offensive line. Like they they are a

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Speaker 5: team built around strengths and they're utilizing those strengths. So like,

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Speaker 5: I don't know, I feel like you're trying to punish

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely agree.

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Speaker 5: First thing I did LAK one was I went to

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Speaker 5: see if the Eagles had a successful toush push against

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Speaker 5: the Rams in the playoffs, and.

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Speaker 4: I believe they did. Tean mcvay's against it as well.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't want it in the game bandit and I

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Speaker 4: sided with coach that's my boy.

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Speaker 2: Like Sean McVay was like, yeah, man, we're running it

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Speaker 2: with Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 3: Keep it in the game. You'd be like, keep it

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Speaker 4: No, I honestly know I will go against him because

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Speaker 4: Stafford does not need to leave the pocket. We saw

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Speaker 4: him break his ribs again, you know, Jalen hurts, no comment.

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Speaker 3: We got it. We got it.

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Speaker 2: One of the rules that is being tweaked heading in

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Speaker 2: the next year. The owners have voted to adjust the

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Speaker 2: ball spot on touchbacks to the thirty five yard line

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Speaker 2: on the dynamic kickoffs. I know last summer, LQ, you

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Speaker 3: Where's John Fossil right now? Is you still with the Cowboys? Bones?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, just wait until they announced that Jamior Gibbs

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Speaker 3: To run back punts. Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I didn't really buy into that so much. I actually

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Speaker 3: That's why I wanted.

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Speaker 4: Last year was one of these things and it never happened. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'm not not paying attention to any of those reports

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Speaker 2: No, all right, I'm gonna mark that down on April first,

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Speaker 4: I'm surprised we haven't even mentioned this in news. Him

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Speaker 4: Who do you think it's going to wipe the socials

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Speaker 2: It's just like, and I don't know how people know this.

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Speaker 3: I guess there's an app or something.

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Speaker 2: That's all I can figure is that there's an app

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Speaker 3: Of who they are or are not following. Oh you

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Speaker 3: know what the app is called. It's called such Grass.

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Speaker 4: That Stop the Madness.

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Speaker 3: There was a millisecond where I was like, they made

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we'll see other thing. Not that it has

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Speaker 2: They have changed the rules towards celebrations. They have banned some,

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Speaker 3: This feels like, are you.

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Speaker 2: Familiar with the Streisand effect at all? So the Strisand effect,

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Speaker 2: The strike cent effect being calling attention to something that

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Speaker 5: I knew the celebration. I didn't know what it meant. Lakwan,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean, look, if everybody was boohooing

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Speaker 4: My personal favorite celebration is when players just like ironically

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. One thing I do want them to finish

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Speaker 4: I'm down to make that rule.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, that would be great.

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Speaker 2: More in depth draft prep, we will dive into the

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks here and I broke them down into three different

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Speaker 3: Talk about guys within these tiers.

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Speaker 2: We don't have to touch on each individual one because

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Speaker 4: Spoiler alert, I put LOL for tier three.

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Speaker 3: You know what, that's fair. We'll discuss that when we

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Speaker 2: be the first player selected, and we'll push will leve

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Speaker 2: Us out of a job down there in Tennessee. Shaudur

443
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,880
Speaker 2: Sanders is sort of an interesting piece because he could

444
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,720
Speaker 2: go too. He could go three, He could fall maybe

445
00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 2: a couple spots after that somebody could trade up. We

446
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,680
Speaker 2: have no idea what's going to happen. The one thing

447
00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,439
Speaker 2: we do know, the New York Giants went out and

448
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 2: signed a couple of veteran free agent quarterbacks.

449
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 3: They went and outed Jameis Winston.

450
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,399
Speaker 2: We did a whole thing on this show, and we

451
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 2: had to have it scrubbed because hours later they went

452
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,159
Speaker 2: and signed Russell Wilson to a deal. So they have

453
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:35,399
Speaker 2: those two guys. But the talk from the front office,

454
00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,800
Speaker 2: whether it's head coach Brian Dable or it's GM Joe Shane,

455
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 2: is that they are necessarily out of the market for

456
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Speaker 2: a quarterback with the number three overall pick, so potentially

457
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 2: Shudur Sanders is still in play. Sanders also met with

458
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,880
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns, who have the number two overall.

459
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Speaker 3: Pick in this draft. But let's just let's sort of

460
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Speaker 3: stick with.

461
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,440
Speaker 2: The Giants here Florida, because that was a big part

462
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Speaker 2: of our conversation last week.

463
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Speaker 3: What would they do? Would they still take a quarterback?

464
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Speaker 3: Would they not.

465
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Speaker 2: Let's say the Giants decide to make the move, and

466
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 2: let's say for the sake of argument, because otherwise, you know,

467
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 2: that sort of ruins the whole premise of this.

468
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,440
Speaker 3: Pods the starting quarterback.

469
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Speaker 2: Is this a good thing for Elik Neighbors, because that

470
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 2: is our primary concern in New York.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I don't see any way, shape or form where

472
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 5: this QB room would be bad for Melik Neighbors, who

473
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,400
Speaker 5: again put up elite fantasy numbers last year with Daniel Jones,

474
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 5: Tommy DeVito, Drew Locke, and Tim Boyle.

475
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 4: Like a room of Russell.

476
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 5: Wilson, Shador Sanders and Jamis Winston devours that that QB

477
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 5: room from last season, and I think they're still in

478
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,160
Speaker 5: the market because they didn't really spend a whole lot

479
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 5: of years or money or anything on those guys. But

480
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Speaker 5: I do think Sanders would be a good thing because

481
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 5: we have seen that if you could get the ball

482
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Speaker 5: in the vicinity of Melik Neighbors, he is more than

483
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 5: likely going to make a play, do something special win

484
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 5: after the catch. All of that, and Chador is very accurate,

485
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 5: so I think, And he's a good anticipatory thrower, he's

486
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 5: got good timing.

487
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Speaker 4: I think touch all that.

488
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Speaker 5: Like, I think that he would be able to there'd

489
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 5: be a nice connection there with Malik Neighbors.

490
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 4: And what I like, even more.

491
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Speaker 5: Than anything, is. Of all of these college quarterbacks, literally

492
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 5: no one was more under pressure last year than Shador Sanders,

493
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,919
Speaker 5: So he could come in and kind of be a

494
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 5: little bit more equipped to handle that Giants O line

495
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 5: and the problems that it could create at times. But yeah,

496
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Speaker 5: I think for me, regardless of who the quarterback for

497
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Speaker 5: the Giants is going to be a week one, I

498
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 5: think the arrow is pointing up from Elik Neighbors heading

499
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Speaker 5: into twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean watching I watched more of Shaduur that

501
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 2: first year in Colorado than I didn't necessarily the second

502
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 2: year watch.

503
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Speaker 3: A little bit.

504
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly, the prevailing belief is that Sachs can be

505
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Speaker 2: a QB stat as much as it can be an

506
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 2: offensive line stat. And I do think while he does

507
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 2: have experience being under pressure playing behind a shaky O line,

508
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 2: there's a little bit of it that also fell on

509
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 2: his shoulders too. He holds the ball, He holds the

510
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 2: ball a long time, and I think that that's gonna

511
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 2: be an issue certainly at the next level, where your

512
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: pass rushers are even bigger and faster and stronger than

513
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 2: what he saw in college over the last couple of years.

514
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 2: Let's look this though, Let's say Lakwan that maybe the

515
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 2: Browns end up pulling the trigger on Shduer at two,

516
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 2: especially when you have owner Jimmy Haslam coming out and

517
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 2: basically saying, hey, my bad. We we sort of fed up.

518
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 2: The Deshaun Watson thing. Also that he threw his wife

519
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 2: under the bus. He also threw his wife under the bus,

520
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 2: and the whole thing like, yeah, d and I had

521
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 2: a problem and I'm sure if I'm de has them

522
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 2: all like hey me, like I'm you know, I'm the

523
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Speaker 2: meme of the guy holding.

524
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Speaker 3: The beer like me, Like what like what should say?

525
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 3: Like what did I do?

526
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 2: Right?

527
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 5: Has an owner ever called out a player like this

528
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 5: by like it was yeah, sheesh, But you.

529
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 3: Know what I one?

530
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 2: It seems to be sort of late, right, because they've

531
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 2: went through a few years of this, and now that

532
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,360
Speaker 2: it looks like Deshaun Watson's career is probably done after

533
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 2: multiple injuries, you know, it seems like an easy way

534
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 2: out now to be like, yeah, I'm sorry, I messed up. Right,

535
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 2: It's easy to do now that it's easy to move

536
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 2: on from him. It's a lot harder to do when

537
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 2: you're in the middle of it. But Is this a

538
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 2: good thing in Cleveland? Ryan, I mean, we saw Jerry

539
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Speaker 2: Judy Laqwan kind of break out near the end of

540
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: last year. You know, David and Joku has had some

541
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 2: moments in his career as well. As it should do

542
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 2: a good fit for either of those guys.

543
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Speaker 4: It could be like it's honestly a situation I hope

544
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 4: doesn't happen for Fantasy because I absolutely want the height

545
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 4: of Sanders to have a career outside of Cleveland, because honestly,

546
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Speaker 4: they have a bad resume of first round quarterbacks. Like, honestly,

547
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield got blessed his soul to be able to

548
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 4: make it out of there and get another contract and

549
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 4: research his career, but you got the Johnny Menzel's end

550
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 4: of the world and all that stuff that just hasn't

551
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 4: worked out for them seconding quarterback in the first round.

552
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 4: So honestly, with Sanders there, it's like, all right, what

553
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 4: are the building pieces? You still don't have your answers

554
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 4: at the running back position. Your O line is decent,

555
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 4: but you got David Najoku, Jerry Judy, great, these are

556
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 4: your weapons. But is this going to push him to

557
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 4: Fantasy relevance in his first year. No, I wouldn't be

558
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 4: interested drafting stra door Sanders there. I would be interested

559
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 4: more even with that crowded room in New York, to

560
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,959
Speaker 4: grab him in redrafts or whatever the case may be,

561
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 4: or whatever the kids are calling them, super flex leekuse

562
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 4: whatever the crazy leagues that we're all in. But more

563
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 4: so saying that, you know, if he ends up in

564
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Speaker 4: Cleveland and he's the starter, I'm just totally turned off

565
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 4: of the whole situation where it's just.

566
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 3: Like all right, back to square one.

567
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 4: They'll be drafting another quarterback in the next three, four

568
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Speaker 4: or five years, so that will be the situation, which

569
00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 4: will be unfortunate for him.

570
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Speaker 2: So you sort of answered the question I had whether

571
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: or not he'd be usable in redraft leagues. And I'm

572
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 2: kind of with you that I don't know that I

573
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 2: would want to draft Shduur Sanders, but I'm mostly curious

574
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 2: in what he does the people around him. But I

575
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: do ask you talking about it. Look, and you said

576
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 2: you want him to have a good career. Is this

577
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 2: a Cleveland thing, because it can't be a talent thing, right,

578
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 2: like they've drafted talented players.

579
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 3: This seems to be an organizational thing. Yeah, it's pretty bad.

580
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 4: I'd argue that, like this is one of the worst.

581
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 4: Like last year, we were all.

582
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 5: Like Bears best landing spot for a rookie quarterback, and

583
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 5: we know that didn't play out how we all envisioned.

584
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 5: But like for the Browns, it's gotta be one of

585
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 5: the worst landing spots ever for rookie quarterback because you

586
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 5: have so much money tied into DeShawn already, they're paying

587
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 5: Miles Garrett, like what teams are paying elite quarterbacks. Like

588
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 5: I understand he's worth it in all, but it's just

589
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 5: the money is all spent elsewhere and not on the

590
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 5: offensive side of the ball.

591
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Speaker 4: That like it, it's gonna hurt. Like even look at

592
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 4: the setup for a young developing quarterback. Your backup is

593
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 4: Kenny Pickett.

594
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 3: What is he learning? Oh, I got traded.

595
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 4: Like Jesus, Like I don't understand, Like there is here's how.

596
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 5: It bounce back after you don't live up to expectations

597
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 5: in the first round.

598
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like he needs somebody like a room of New York,

599
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 4: like he can develop with Russell Wilson to learn the

600
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 4: ins and out. Russell has been in the treage just

601
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 4: for years now and Winston. He's a spiritual, like upbeat coach,

602
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 4: you know, like he can get him just like, you know,

603
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 4: laughing and giggling stuff and being good spirits when they're losing.

604
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 4: But it's more so of like the situation has to

605
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 4: be right and you have to get it right with

606
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 4: the landing spot. For these young quarterbacks, souse, we've seen

607
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 4: them fall in their face just by being in a

608
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 4: bad organization and situation.

609
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 5: At Giants QB room. They praised here for sure.

610
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: I just I had to pause for a second because

611
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 2: I was envisioning in my head Jameis Winston after football

612
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 2: being like a life coach and just like you know,

613
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: he's just he would say things to you that you're like,

614
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what that means, but you really seem

615
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 2: convicted and positive about it.

616
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 4: So I'm just gonna kind of roll with it. I

617
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 4: don't think he's ever had a bad day in his life.

618
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 4: I don't even all the interceptions in Tampa he threw

619
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 4: everyone with a smile.

620
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 2: Well, he very much seems like a guy that everything

621
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 2: just kind of rolls off of him, right.

622
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 3: He just you know, like even even if it was

623
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 3: bad in the moment.

624
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 2: He does just seem like a very It just seems

625
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: like like, hey, you know, tomorrow's a new day. You know,

626
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: the next pass is a new pass, and we're just

627
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 2: gonna roll with it. It definitely definitely feels that way.

628
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 5: If you guys haven't seen it. His the year the

629
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 5: Bucks were on hard Knocks, they did like a thing

630
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 5: where he like went back to where he grew up

631
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 5: and stuff, and that is his attitude. But it's it's

632
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 5: really cool to see why. So like, as much as

633
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 5: I love Jamis jokes and stuff like, it is a

634
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 5: good watch. If you guys are able to find it.

635
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 3: We are a Jamius pod man. I'm telling you we

636
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 3: already pro Jamis pod for sure.

637
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Speaker 2: I do want to ask you, though, but if we

638
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: talk about km Warred, Shuder Sanders, they're the two guys

639
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: at the top of this draft class, where do you

640
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: think they would have fit had they been eligible or

641
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: available to come out last year?

642
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 5: So I think I think this is a really good question.

643
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 5: I think, look, No One a year later, we could

644
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 5: all have our opinions on Caleb. No one was gonna

645
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 5: top Caleb as a prospect in last year's class. And

646
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 5: I loved Daniels. I remember being like Daniels is closer

647
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 5: to Caleb than he is the rest of the group.

648
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 5: So to me, those would still be my top two.

649
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 5: I think cam Ward would fit into a tier with

650
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 5: Drake May where you're like, this guy has the physical bit,

651
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 5: like everything is that. I'm also never the person that

652
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 5: tries to get in the like in the mind of

653
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 5: a quarterback, because these teams have spent millions and millions

654
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 5: of dollars to make it a science and at best

655
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 5: they're fifty to fifty. So like when I watch quarterbacks,

656
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 5: I'm just looking at physical ability and stuff. I think

657
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 5: Ward fits in that group where like all all of

658
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 5: the talent and the skill set, is there some stuff

659
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 5: you need to work on those at the next level.

660
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 4: And then I.

661
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 5: Would put Sanders for me because I had I had

662
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 5: May third, and I think Ward slides in that tier.

663
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 5: Then I had like Nix and JJ McCarthy in a tier.

664
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 5: I think Sanders goes in that tier, and for me

665
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 5: that was the like this guy could play. I think

666
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 5: he's an NFL caliber quarterback. The skill the physical skills

667
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 5: are an elite, Like you're not gonna watch like I

668
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 5: watched cam warden and I'm like if this guy everything

669
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 5: breaks right for him, he could get to a point

670
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 5: where he's putting up numbers like a Lamar or or Alan.

671
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 5: And maybe that's too high, but like the skill set

672
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,239
Speaker 5: is there. Sanders I don't think has that, but like

673
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 5: he could be a very good NFL quarterback if the

674
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 5: pieces around him are are good.

675
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 3: I think, Lakwan, would you rather have Michael Pins?

676
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 2: I know, Bonicks, I'm sorry, I just want I know.

677
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: This is like breathing for you, Bonex. That's why I

678
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: wasna say Michael Pinnox or should or Sanders?

679
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 3: Which one? Would you rather build a round? Take a

680
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: your door?

681
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 4: I have store a little bit higher. Actually he was

682
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 4: like kind of closer to Ward. When you go look

683
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 4: at how I have it on the list, it's Caleb

684
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 4: obviously Jaden, and then I got Ward and then I

685
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 4: got Sanders. And I say Sanders only because of that

686
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 4: football IQ. He understands the game, he understands how to

687
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 4: go out there and adapt, and you see it. He

688
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 4: goes in to programs that are unknown and he was

689
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 4: able to make it known. He goes to programs that

690
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 4: didn't really have the right pieces that were you know,

691
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 4: the offensive line was his biggest problem. He still went

692
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 4: out there to be accurate and to be talked about

693
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 4: as a top two prospects. So it's like one of

694
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 4: those situations where it's like I want the guy that

695
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 4: knows the game, that lives and breathe the game, then

696
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 4: can go out there and execute when given the information.

697
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 4: If he ends up in Cleveland, this does not work out.

698
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 4: But anyways, looking at it, and more so looking at it,

699
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 4: I think he will be above like some of the

700
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy's. The Michael Pennix, you know that we're seeing

701
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 4: now developed.

702
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 5: And mixed.

703
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 4: Right behind him on the list just because you can't

704
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 4: have ties, but it's just more so looking at what

705
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 4: he brings to the table as an overall quarterback.

706
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Pennix was the one that was the one for

707
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: me where I was like he and Sanders were sort

708
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: of neck and neck in my mind.

709
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: I alould think that, you know, if.

710
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 2: We're looking at the whole picture, I think because of

711
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: age and injury history, right, Michael Pennis had a pretty

712
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: lengthy injury history during his time at college.

713
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 3: He was a little bit of an older prospect.

714
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 2: I think that would probably gear Shaduura a slight edge

715
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 2: for me, but I thought they were very SIMI I

716
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: think in terms of their outlook, their potential career outlook,

717
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: you know, I think I would probably take Sanders.

718
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 3: I might take him ahead of JJ McCarthy.

719
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 4: Only because I'm cool with that.

720
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: I just because I think McCarthy is still such an

721
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 2: unknown right. Obviously, he had success at Michigan, they won

722
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: a national championship, but also what he was asked to

723
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: do in college I think is going to be significantly

724
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: different than what he's going to be asked to do

725
00:32:59,240 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: in the NFL.

726
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: And again I'm not saying he can't.

727
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: I just don't know Whereas at least I have a

728
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: body of work for Shudor Sanders, I've seen what he

729
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: can do. I think I've seen his full arsenal. I

730
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 2: think there's room to grow, but I've seen the basic

731
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 2: totality of.

732
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 3: His skill set at this point. So that's that's kind

733
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 3: of where I would take him.

734
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 2: Tier two and the good number of guys Jackson Dart,

735
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: who I think is sort of on that cusp of

736
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: Tier one and Tier two, because there's a lot of

737
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 2: talk about him getting pulled up not just into the

738
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: first round, but maybe fairly high in the first round.

739
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: I've seen mock drafts where it goes Ward Sanders Dart

740
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: in the first three picks, which feels very aggressive to.

741
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 3: Me, but.

742
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 4: I could see it being a first rounder. But top

743
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 4: three is insane.

744
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 3: It feels it feels very aggressive.

745
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 2: So I got Jackson Dart in Tier two, Tyler Shuck, which,

746
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: if you have seen it spelled shoug at h.

747
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 3: It is a pronounced shuck.

748
00:33:59,080 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 4: Quin.

749
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 3: You ares jayly Milroe, Kyle McCord, Dylan Gabriel.

750
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: I mean, my question is which guy makes the biggest

751
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 2: leap up draft boards? And for you, Lakwan, I'm gonna

752
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 2: say which non Jalen Milroe guy makes the biggest leap

753
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: up draft boards because I know I know how you

754
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: feel about Milroe. Yeah, I'm assuming that's the guy you

755
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: like the most out of this group. Is there somebody else?

756
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 4: I was gonna say Quinn yours, but then you see

757
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 4: his pro day and he's thrown ducks up there, so

758
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 4: it's like, not too sure what the NFL, you know,

759
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 4: space thinks about where he can fit in. I don't

760
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 4: look at him as a Day one starter. But when

761
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 4: we're really talking about these quarterback prospects, you hear the

762
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 4: consensus this is not a quarterback draft, but you have

763
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 4: to make do with what's out there, the Dylan Gabriels

764
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 4: of the world that will Howard's like, these guys are

765
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 4: gonna find landing spots and there's gonna be some upsides,

766
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 4: Like I don't really see that much of a leaf

767
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 4: from anybody under Jalen Milroe and the Jackson Dark tier.

768
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 4: So it's more so of like, these guys are gonna

769
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 4: have to land in these spots with the right coaching

770
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 4: staff and all, etcetera, etcetera.

771
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 3: But Quinn yours man, he.

772
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 4: Would probably be the closest to I would think make

773
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 4: a leap just based on you know, last year with

774
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 4: the Texas and Longhorns, and I feel like he has

775
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 4: some accuracy issues, but he does have somewhat of an arm.

776
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 3: Which are these guys do you like the most?

777
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 5: Florio, I mean it would be dark, but I think

778
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 5: Dart is firmly the QB three in this class. So

779
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 5: outside of him, for fantasy I with LQ like Jalen Milroe,

780
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 5: his upside is so high because he's so fast, he's

781
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 5: such a good runner.

782
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 4: He has a strong arm, but he needs a lot

783
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 4: of work before.

784
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 5: I think he can be an NFL starter, like I

785
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 5: don't like like LQ said, I don't think he's a

786
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 5: day one NFL starter someone who stood out to me,

787
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 5: Uh Tyler shuck.

788
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 4: I I think he's a little underrated.

789
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 5: I know he doesn't have like the best physical skill set,

790
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 5: Like he doesn't have the strongest arm.

791
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,959
Speaker 4: He's a good athlete, not a great athlete, but he's

792
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 4: mobile enough where he could beat people with.

793
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 5: His legs in the in a chain moving sense. He's

794
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 5: never gonna be the guy running for twenty thirty yards.

795
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 5: He kind of reminded me of Ryan Fitzpatrick. He's like

796
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 5: a he's a gunslinger who doesn't realize he doesn't have

797
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 5: the gunslinger arm.

798
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 4: But there there's not a throw that he.

799
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 5: Doesn't think he can make it. So to me, I

800
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 5: think he's fun. I think he's got some upside. But really,

801
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 5: I think Dart is the only one of these guys

802
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 5: that has a chance of being a long term starter.

803
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 5: I think this class is going to present a lot

804
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 5: of like quality backups, and look, kudos to these guys

805
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 5: because being a backup quarterback is the best job in

806
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 5: the world.

807
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 4: But I just don't know if it has enough high

808
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 4: end upside for these guys to become starters.

809
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: Fun fact, Tyler Schuck was a backup to Justin Herbert

810
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 3: at Oregon, Ah, like many years ago. He is Wait

811
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 3: a second, it's like in twenty eighteen he was wow,

812
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 3: a backup too.

813
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's years.

814
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 3: Old, so he's been around for a while.

815
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 5: It's his own insurance, he does he you know Justin

816
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 5: Herbert a year and a half actually.

817
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 2: Because in fact, if I remember correct, he actually got

818
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 2: to Oregon the same time as Pine Sewel.

819
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 3: They were in the same recruiting Class's.

820
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: Old, he's uh, he's a little bit he's a little

821
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: bit experienced.

822
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,959
Speaker 3: Yes, he's been around a lot.

823
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 2: And I know, look, I know that sometimes draft Twitter

824
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: or draft Blue Sky or whatever you want to call

825
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 2: it can be.

826
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, how do you say?

827
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 2: He he just but also unorthodox too, write because I

828
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 2: you know, at the beginning of this whole process, I

829
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: did see a lot of people propping up Tyler Shuck, right,

830
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: And I think it goes both ways. You definitely see

831
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: a lot of people who are like, he's old, I'm out,

832
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: But a lot of people who sort of looked at

833
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 2: him and looked at kind of his skill set and

834
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 2: really just kind of ignored the numbers because if you

835
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: look at the stats, there's nothing that blows you away

836
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: statistically about Tyler Shuck. He had a good final season

837
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 2: his third senior year, which was at Louisville, nearly thirty

838
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 2: two hundred yards that season, but before that never really

839
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 2: got enough playing time, whether it's at Oregon or Sexist Tech,

840
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: to really make much of an impact.

841
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 3: But a lot of people.

842
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: Who kind of were sucked into that final year, and

843
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: you know, I even saw somebody and again this might

844
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: be a little reactionary suggest that he probably should be

845
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 2: considered in the.

846
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 3: Top three quarterbacks in this class.

847
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 2: Again, little aggressive for my taste, but I know that

848
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 2: that got me all choked up. I know that I

849
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: thought process was out there a little bit. But it

850
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 2: would seem like Floria that Milroe has the most fantasy upside.

851
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 3: Is that fair? Yeah?

852
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 5: Because what he can do as a runner, I mean

853
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 5: he's a better runner than Sanders than Ward. He's the

854
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 5: best running quarter back in this draft class. And I

855
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 5: don't think it's even close, like at the very least,

856
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 5: if he doesn't work out as a quarterback, like find

857
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 5: ways to get this guy to the ball in hand,

858
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 5: like let him do trick play something, because like, like

859
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 5: he's a phenomenal athlete. But the whole thing time we

860
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 5: were talking about Chuck's age, Marcus, I had two thoughts

861
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 5: in mind. One, this Auburn team that's in the Final

862
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 5: four right now. It's a team of grown men going

863
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 5: up against eighteen year olds, so like it's kind of

864
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 5: similar to that. But Brandon Whedon was what I kept thinking,

865
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 5: because that's my favorite quarterback story of all time.

866
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 2: But like Brandon Whedon at least left school to go

867
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 2: play baseball for a while, Like he wasn't just like

868
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 2: hanging around.

869
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 5: Baseball failed that. He was like, you know what, I'll

870
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 5: be a college quarterback again. I'll get drafted at twenty eight.

871
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think when Oklahoma brown around when he's Yeah. Yeah,

872
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 3: that was one that.

873
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 4: I think everyone knew immediately.

874
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 3: But yeah, this is a gonna work out.

875
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 4: I'm sorry you made the wrong decision.

876
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 2: Yeah again, Yeah, yeah, that one for sure didn't didn't

877
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 2: quite work out though, So we didn't even mention like

878
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: Kyle McCord, Dylan Gabriel, I think these are guys who

879
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 2: are you know, I think they're sort of destined to

880
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: be career backups at best.

881
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 3: I would think in the NFL a.

882
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 5: Lot of screens in Bolt, like I was excited to

883
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 5: see McCord. It's all screens.

884
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 4: Where should you put the Tier three quarterbacks versus the

885
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one quarterback draft twenty twenty one? Yes, the

886
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 4: mac joneses other world.

887
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was a rough that was a rough year.

888
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 3: We should do that? Which should which? If I you

889
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 3: know so?

890
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: By the one just me patting myself on the kind

891
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: of propping up my own work.

892
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 3: Every year, I'm.

893
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 2: Fortunate to do a little thing that shows up on

894
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 2: YouTube called the Hit, miss or meh, where I go

895
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: through the first round of the draft for certain years

896
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: and I determined whether or not each player, as the

897
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: title suggests, was a hit, a miss, or a mah.

898
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: The one that's doing to come out very soon is

899
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty one draft year, and.

900
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 3: I mean the first Let let's go the first five picks.

901
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, Yah, Zach Wilson, Miss, Miss Trey Lance, Miss

902
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts.

903
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 3: May Man, see you guys are sick.

904
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 4: You're still on the train, Get off of it. As

905
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 4: a rookie.

906
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 3: Nope, Jamar Chase easily a hit. Yeah, Chase a hit.

907
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 3: So much hate from Bengals fans for that one.

908
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 4: You should just slip that one in there, like clearly

909
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 4: a miss, yeah miss?

910
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 2: See what happens you keep going? Number six Jalen Waddle,

911
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 2: I think it's a hit. Yeah, Sewell, certainly a hit.

912
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 3: J C. Horn probably a hit. He just got paid, right, Yeah,

913
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 3: he just got paid. Pats are saying the second a

914
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 3: hit for sure. Yeah. And then number ten DeVonta Smith,

915
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 3: I would say a hit.

916
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 4: So I'm look, you get once you.

917
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 2: Get past the top four picks, I think you know,

918
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 2: the rest of the top ten looks pretty good.

919
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, So there it is.

920
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 4: Did did the Rams have a pick in that one?

921
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 2: Or is that when they were just selling that's where

922
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 2: they were, like, that's where they were as Yeah, they

923
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: did not.

924
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 3: They did not have a first round pick. That's when

925
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 3: last year was our first one in the McVay era.

926
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 4: I mean, the draft is more fun when you have picks.

927
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's Lestene just didn't want to show up

928
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: on Thursday. He's like, you know what, I was, show

929
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: up on Friday.

930
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 3: We'll be fine.

931
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 5: Are getting to the Rams House this year. What are

932
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 5: we getting in to the Rams House?

933
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 3: Oh, if we can get that done, yes, house content

934
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 3: from you we have.

935
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 5: If we can't get it done, you got to find

936
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 5: a way to sneak in man like and you're just

937
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 5: on the couch.

938
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 2: Would be great contentt just you know on TikTok getting

939
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: escorted out of a building.

940
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 4: You gotta wear a GoPro as you do it, though. Yes,

941
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 4: just make sure you got bail mode real quick.

942
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 2: It's here three quarterbacks that I have here, Riley Leonard,

943
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: Will Howard, Max Brosmer, Curtis Rourke, Brady Cook.

944
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 3: I'm lak.

945
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 2: You've already said lo ol. So I know how you

946
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: feel about this Florido. Any any maybe Dynasty guys here.

947
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 2: I mean we're not talking about Redraft, but any guys

948
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 2: who you know, maybe break through this thing for Dynasty.

949
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 4: Maybe Riley Leonard. I was talking to a friend of

950
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 4: mine last night who's a big Notre Dame fan, and

951
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 4: he was like, he's he's not great as a passer,

952
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 4: but he's a good runner. He was like, I think

953
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 4: his ceiling is.

954
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 5: Maybe being like a Taysom Hill gadget type player. But

955
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 5: I'm like that's something at least has fantasy relevance, right.

956
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 4: I think when we're getting this deep in a.

957
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 5: Class where I already don't like the QB two stars,

958
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 5: that we're really scraping the battle here.

959
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably fair, But you know, maybe maybe the

960
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 2: Broncos draft him and Sean Payton figures out something to

961
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 2: do with him.

962
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 3: Did he fix Zach Wilson?

963
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 4: Do we know yet?

964
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't think so.

965
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 2: No, Zach Wilson's not even in Denver anymore. So, no,

966
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: like Zach Wilson's in Miami this year.

967
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 4: So yeah, teams wanted Zach Wilson, though I don't know.

968
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 4: Side note, I definitely don't want to see another Taysom

969
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 4: Hill in the league. Can we just like that he

970
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 4: can have that crown. It was a time and life

971
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 4: and fantasy where it was great.

972
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 3: No more, no Moss please.

973
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 2: I mean, look, we're gonna we're gonna have it again

974
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 2: where it's gonna be some player that does multiple things

975
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 2: and then people are going to scream at us about

976
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 2: positional eligibility.

977
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 3: Oh, Travis Hunter, welcome to the party.

978
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna be different, though, I mean, I guess

979
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 2: if you're an IDP league. Potentially that may have some impact.

980
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: But you know, this isn't like it's not gonna be

981
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 2: like a Taysom Hill thing. Who was it was at

982
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: the time Montgomery, who was the Packer.

983
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 4: All, yeah, he broke.

984
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: Fantasy that one year, because he absolutely broke fantasy one

985
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 2: year the great, the great positional wars of like you know,

986
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, we're trying to figure out what to do

987
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: with time Montgomery, which, by the way, in sim Montgomery's

988
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 2: best season, he got you eight hundred and five scrimmageyards

989
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 2: and three touchdowns, right.

990
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 3: While he were screaming for him to be like dual eligible,

991
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 3: like he also was not really actually valuable.

992
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 5: Shows were dedicated to like what position should he and

993
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 5: like in retrospect, it's like, why why didn't you care?

994
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 2: I almost quit Twitter. I can't deal with y'all argue

995
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 2: with me about this, Like it's not that serious?

996
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 4: Was it that year he fumbled on the kick return?

997
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 4: He was a Packer and we won the game?

998
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 3: I believe, so probably the Rams. All things lead back

999
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 3: to the RAMS.

1000
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 2: It's it's almost it's almost like they're a you know,

1001
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 2: malevolent multinational corporation that poisons their employee's brains and that

1002
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: sort of thing, which I don't know. There's no particular

1003
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: reason I mentioned that at all. Take a break, come back,

1004
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 2: and we'll talk about maybe why. I might have mentioned

1005
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 2: that it's coming up next on the NFL Fantasy Football Pod.

1006
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 2: All right, So this show has sort of unofficially become

1007
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: kind of a severance podcast here. It started because Florida

1008
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 2: and I have been talking about the show for a

1009
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 2: good year plus and we convinced la Kwan that he

1010
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: should be watching it as well, and we were surprised

1011
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: by how quickly you got through season one, only to

1012
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 2: find out that you blew through season two in like

1013
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: forty eight hours basically, So spoiler alert for anybody who

1014
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 2: has not finished the show yet, including our producer, who

1015
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: our producer, Kyrie Douglas, you are.

1016
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 3: You are welcome to hit stop, to walk away, what

1017
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 3: have you.

1018
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about what happened at the end of

1019
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 2: season two because Lakwan, I know, is on absolute fire

1020
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 2: after having watched it.

1021
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 3: So I mean, just take it away. Your thoughts on

1022
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 3: season two, the season finale and then all of that.

1023
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 4: The finale was a masterpiece, man, and like it was

1024
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 4: worth the hour and twenty one minutes. And like, my

1025
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 4: favorite scene we were talking in the chat was like

1026
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,479
Speaker 4: when Mark was going back and forth with his self

1027
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 4: with the camera, Like that was such a great scene

1028
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 4: to where it's like I can only imagine myself talking

1029
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 4: to myself and what I would think and how I

1030
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 4: would be talking to myself. But ultimately, like at the

1031
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 4: end of season two where you know spoiler alert, where

1032
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 4: you know he gets Mark's wife out and they're at

1033
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 4: the exit door and then he hits that you turn

1034
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 4: to his other girlfriend, it's like, yo, what are you doing?

1035
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 3: But we had a.

1036
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 4: Conversation debate me and Florio about any versus Audi, and

1037
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 4: I'm mean, Audi, Bro, your team any teen Audi. Mark,

1038
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 4: he got his wife, but he didn't get hisself out

1039
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 4: of that door. And if I'm telling myself, like, Bro,

1040
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 4: I have twenty years with my wife. You got twenty

1041
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 4: minutes with your girlfriend. You better get my wife out

1042
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 4: of there.

1043
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 3: We're gonna have some brothers. Did he did? He did?

1044
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 4: He didn't get me out of there.

1045
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: That's why that's why I am That's why I'm team

1046
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 2: any because he did what was asked of him.

1047
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 3: The mission was get Jimma out. He did that. At

1048
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 3: that point, he had no more obligation to do anything else.

1049
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: And in fact, for the first time ever in his existence,

1050
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: he actually got to make his own choice for himself.

1051
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 2: He'd never been able to choose anything for himself previously,

1052
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 2: ever before, and so he took an opportunity to make

1053
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 2: a choice for himself.

1054
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 3: Now pause, he did not complete the mission.

1055
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 4: She's just standing up. She's still in the building.

1056
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 3: But that's on her.

1057
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 4: She's on her.

1058
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 3: What his job was to get her out, That was

1059
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 3: the job, and the job is building.

1060
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 4: That's not out.

1061
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 5: But Audi Mark does some messed up stuff though, like

1062
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 5: we were talking about this offline. But he tells him,

1063
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 5: I started uh reintegration because it's unfair to you, Like, no,

1064
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 5: you didn't, bro you're lying to me right there.

1065
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 3: And also you.

1066
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 5: Created me to be a prisoner in where all I

1067
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 5: get to do is work for these awful people that

1068
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 5: you now know are awful. And at no point, like

1069
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 5: he even says, he's like, if you ever took a

1070
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 5: interest in my life and what I loved is when

1071
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 5: he calls her Helena, he says he thinks his name

1072
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 5: is and markets upset.

1073
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 4: It takes you back to when.

1074
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 5: Uh no, he doesn't call her Helena. Helena is the Audi.

1075
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 5: But when when the Audis are having dinner and Helena

1076
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 5: is like, oh, what's your wife's name? She says it

1077
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 5: the wrong way and Audi market's really upset. So like

1078
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 5: you see that they're the same kind of person, same reaction,

1079
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 5: all of that.

1080
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I'm I'm team any Mark all day.

1081
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 2: Also, Also, we should petition the folks at NFL Media

1082
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 2: to get a choreography in marrit department. We just need

1083
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 2: we need a choreography in merriment. We need somebody to

1084
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 2: lead a band. Uh just you know, instead of town

1085
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 2: hall meetings, we just have an HBCU band come and

1086
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 2: play and then we all have we all have waffles

1087
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 2: and it becomes a thing.

1088
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'll say this. I I know there's a.

1089
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 2: Season three coming. I look forward to it. If they

1090
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 2: decided that that was just the way the show ended,

1091
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 2: I'm also fine with that.

1092
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 4: No, I'll be angry because I'm gonna be angry if

1093
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 4: season three starts and she's still in the building and

1094
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 4: she's back in the basement, because I think it's gonna flip.

1095
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 3: Well, that's her fault, then no blaming them.

1096
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 2: It seems oh my god, that is walking walk upstairs,

1097
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 2: walk out like you're out of the building. And and

1098
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 2: after Mark has gone around the corner, what are you

1099
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 2: gonna do? Go away, call the cops leeve like it's

1100
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 2: at some point you still have the free will to

1101
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 2: go do things like if you stand there and you

1102
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 2: get arrested or you get captured and sent back in

1103
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 2: the building, it's kind on you.

1104
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 3: It's kind on you.

1105
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 4: I will be so mad at my inny to where

1106
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 4: like I would just punch myself in the face every

1107
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 4: day You're going into work bad and bruised my one.

1108
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 5: I want to know what how they got Jemma there

1109
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 5: in the first place, you know, like how they had

1110
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 5: a fake body of hers to show Mark and stuff.

1111
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 3: I want to know that.

1112
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 5: But I think season three is going to be done

1113
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 5: trying to get Mark out, because I don't think Luman

1114
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 5: is gonna allow Mark to leave anymore.

1115
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, they know, they clearly know too much.

1116
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 2: You don't have to figure because Mark Dylan. I mean,

1117
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens with Irving, whether or not Irving

1118
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 2: is just gone. Now you know, there's a lot, there's

1119
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 2: there's still some questions to be answered. But I also

1120
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 2: sort of fall into the opinion of so many shows now,

1121
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 2: especially science fiction or fantasy, feel the need to have

1122
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 2: to explain to you every last detail for every last character,

1123
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 2: and sometimes the world is just what it is and

1124
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 2: it doesn't necessarily need an explanation. And I felt like

1125
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 2: it was a great ending to the season, but it

1126
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 2: also sort of could have like I don't know if

1127
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 2: you guys ever watched Watchmen on HBO, but I thought

1128
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 2: that was a perfect It was one season and the

1129
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 2: way it ended was very much an open question of like, wait,

1130
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: what's happening, but also was the perfect way to end

1131
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: it because it let.

1132
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 3: You sort of decide on your own what happened next.

1133
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 2: And I think I think sometimes we get too caught

1134
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 2: up on needing closure, and then when we get an ending,

1135
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 2: we're unhappy with that ending.

1136
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 6: Whereas it's it was, it was left to be up

1137
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,720
Speaker 6: to the viewer, and then when the viewers eventually pressured

1138
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 6: the writer, he was like spoiler alert.

1139
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 4: He's like, no, that's Tony dying.

1140
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 5: And then everyone hated that, and oh, Bert, Bert is

1141
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 5: a bad guy. I'm telling you because Bert is a

1142
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 5: bad guy that field is like, you worked there for

1143
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 5: twenty years and then they're like, no, it's only been twelve.

1144
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 5: And my care is he's not severed at all. I

1145
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 5: think he's a mole as well.

1146
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 2: I think he's I think he's a henchman right where

1147
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 2: he I don't think he's thinking about the morality of it.

1148
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 2: It's a job and he's doing the job that he

1149
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 2: has been tasked to do. And I don't think morality.

1150
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 4: Has my mentalities.

1151
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 3: Man, just look at him. No it is, I mean

1152
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 3: I don't.

1153
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 2: I don't think right or wrong comes into it. I

1154
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 2: think it's it's doing the job. I think that's all

1155
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 2: it is. But yeah, in the end, Bert ends up

1156
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 2: being a bad guy because of the things he has

1157
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 2: had asked.

1158
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 3: To do are bad.

1159
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 5: And he's already said he was a bad guy before

1160
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 5: he worked there, which.

1161
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that was the reason he has severed, because

1162
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 2: that was the reason he got severed, was to sort of.

1163
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 4: I think he's lying. I don't think he's actually severed.

1164
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 3: Nah, he's still a mobster.

1165
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 2: Well way, we should we should put together a doc

1166
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 2: a Google doc of questions to send to Ben Stiller.

1167
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 4: And have you guys seen all the stuff that the

1168
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 4: crew is getting to do now.

1169
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 5: It's I'm so happy for them, Like because outside of

1170
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 5: Adam Scott, they're not household names yet.

1171
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 4: Dylan was in Spider Man do Backflip his little sketchy voice.

1172
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 5: But I'm just like, they're going to London, They're on

1173
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 5: all these every talk show you could think of right now,

1174
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 5: Like I'm hoping they get more roles, like mister Miltchick

1175
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 5: should get his emmy right now, Adam Scott should get

1176
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 5: his emmy right now.

1177
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 3: Like yeah, for sure, for sure.

1178
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's it's very cool because I kind of like

1179
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 2: I remember seeing Dela and on he was on an

1180
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 2: early episode of Succession where he gets he gets made

1181
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 2: fun of.

1182
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 4: He gets there because I thought I was watching Severn

1183
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 4: when Successions on HBO.

1184
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, you said that this doesn't seem like the show

1185
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 3: they're watching.

1186
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 2: I do.

1187
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 3: I do recall that absolutely.

1188
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 5: I've actually never.

1189
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 4: I've started Succession and then I gave up on it

1190
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 4: a couple episodes in.

1191
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's worth watching, but they're all terrible people.

1192
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 2: Just know that going in that that speaking of which, that's.

1193
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 4: The white loadus this season. I don't know if you

1194
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 4: guys have watched that.

1195
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 3: It's on my list. I haven't gotten the season.

1196
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 4: It's interesting, it's weird.

1197
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that right off the bat.

1198
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 2: Well, I'm still u still digging through the righteous gem stones.

1199
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 2: And then maybe I'll get to about that. It's very funny,

1200
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: very funny. Danny Danny bride Is is a master, so

1201
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 2: I love him.

1202
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 3: There you go, there it is all right, there you go.

1203
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 2: So that's a rap about Severs. Now we have to

1204
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 2: find a new show to bully LaQuan into watching or something.

1205
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 3: I don't figure.

1206
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 4: Have you ever watched Breaking Bad? Or better call Saul?

1207
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 4: I watched Breaking Bad? Or You're Gonna be so mad?

1208
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 4: I never finished the last season, all right, that is

1209
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 4: the best season. No, I never finished it. I got

1210
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 4: away to the point where they're on the run, and yeah,

1211
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 4: what about Thrones? The Sopranos, No Sopranos. I started it

1212
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:25,280
Speaker 4: by It's Jersey Man, No Man, and I love Goodfellas.

1213
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 4: It's one of my favorite movies.

1214
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 3: Did they shoot most of it in like Delaware or something?

1215
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 5: They know A lot of it was in Queen's Actually,

1216
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 5: Like my one fun story is I worked one day

1217
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 5: on the set of the sopranos, and all I had

1218
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 5: to do was set up cones when cars would move.

1219
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 3: Man.

1220
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, they were like, hey, you want I was in college.

1221
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 5: They threw me like a hundred bucks or whatever. They

1222
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 5: were like, sit out here like six am on and

1223
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 5: anytime a car leaves, throw a cone there.

1224
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 2: All right, there you go, all right, so we can

1225
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 2: maybe next episode we're gonna have more tales of uh,

1226
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 2: you know, Michael f Florio as a I brought that

1227
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 2: work show stage hand or whatever. Anyway, there it is

1228
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 2: our little wrap up of severance, our little look at

1229
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks in the draft.

1230
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 3: We will move on to the next position coming up.

1231
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 2: We're also efforting a number of different guests from a

1232
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 2: number of different venues arenas try to give us some

1233
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 2: more insight into the draft and some of the prospects there.

1234
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 3: So stay tuned for all that as well.

1235
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 2: In the meantime, better do it for this edition of

1236
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 2: the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Stay happy, safe and healthy,

1237
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 2: do good and live well.

1238
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 3: Praise here. I will talk to you again on Thursday.

1239
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 5: Got the word