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Speaker 1: Show is on the air. Unlock this door with the

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Speaker 1: key of imagination. Beyond it is another dimension, a dimension

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Speaker 1: of sound. Holy forth, amendment.

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Speaker 3: The wait the career, my passenger said, saying that day

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Speaker 4: They know it was my shoulder and hunch that this

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Speaker 1: That's the way they all became the ray bunch pleased

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Speaker 4: Steve Austin astronaut a man Bury alive, gentlemen, we can

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Speaker 1: We have the technology.

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Speaker 4: In nineteen seventy two, a crack commando unit was sent

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Speaker 4: stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by

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Speaker 4: the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you

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Speaker 4: if you can find them, maybe you can hire the eighteen.

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Speaker 5: Marve living is the leave it to beaver starring Barbara Billingsley,

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Speaker 1: So I saw something the other day that John Boy

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Speaker 1: But anyway, I thought that'd be a fun show to

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Speaker 1: I'm ma, I'm I'm obsessed with Mark Twain. I think

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Speaker 1: You know, in the Taming of the Shrew, the character

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Speaker 1: Ford Uh, I would not actually say Einstein, because I

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Speaker 1: another day. Kevin, I'm sorry to leave you holding. What

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Speaker 6: Show as far as the news goes for the Houston area?

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry? Can you say that again? Ramon was talking?

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Speaker 6: Mortan, Michael, you are poking me right in the fields

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Speaker 6: Okay, you just poked me all in the fields this

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Speaker 6: Great story, and I think he'd be much better to

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Speaker 2: I tell you what you really made mine say. Playing

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Speaker 1: You know what's funny in nineteen seventy came out in

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Speaker 8: Said, what's his country coming to? We got this as

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Speaker 7: You asked me naked?

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Speaker 7: No, I well to tell you this, or naked is

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Speaker 1: That because that is that is legitimately funny. Brenda, thank

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Speaker 1: a little investigation. It was done by a magazine on

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Speaker 1: that song. It is credited to Zute Finster, which was

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Speaker 1: Winter Catalog. We add some new evidence to this old debate.

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Speaker 1: In July seventy five, the Seer's Falling Winter Catalog arrived

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Speaker 1: eighteen eighty eight. That was not accidental. The focus of

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Speaker 1: But it wasn't his underwear that generating the buzz. In

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Speaker 1: interest was quote something below it. That's something was what

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Speaker 1: Genitalia let's see here. The man on page six oh

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Speaker 1: Sears catalog model display more than shorts? One headline asked?

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Speaker 1: Another pose to more provocative suggestion, let's all turn to

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Speaker 1: That was the burning question on everyone's mind. In an

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Speaker 1: showing off anything undoward, but please, please please keep writing

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