Speaker 1: Up next, Out Loud with Joanno called part of the
Speaker 1: Beginning with New Yorkers flee their citious politicians use the
Speaker 1: coronavirus to seize power and attack religion. Meanwhile, our country
Speaker 1: continues to endure political chaos in the aftermath of the election.
Speaker 1: This is Outlied with Gianno calling Welcome back to Ally
Speaker 1: with Gianno calledwell, I have a great show for you today.
Speaker 1: My guest today is my friend, my colleague, and someone
Speaker 1: you may know very well. Her name is Lisa Booth.
Speaker 1: She's a prominent journalist, political analysts, and commentator. Lisa is
Speaker 1: currently a Fox News contributor and senior Fellow for the
Speaker 1: Independent Woman's Voice, an organization that fights for women by
Speaker 1: expanding support for policy solutions that aren't just well intentioned,
Speaker 1: but actually enhance people's freedom, opportunities, and well being. Lisa
Speaker 1: also founded High New Strategies, a boutique political communications and
Speaker 1: PR firms, and previously served as this President. Before then,
Speaker 1: she spent years working on Capitol Hill and for political campaigns.
Speaker 1: Let's go, Lisa Booth, thank you for joining Out Loud
Speaker 1: with Giano called Well, it's such a pleasure to have
Speaker 1: a friend, a colleague, someone who I call on the
Speaker 1: phone and say, hey, what do you think about this?
Speaker 1: It's such a pleasure and honor to be on with you.
Speaker 1: How are you doing today? Hey, my friend, it's great
Speaker 1: to be hon with you too. Also in Italy for
Speaker 1: those listening, it did take me about fifteen minutes to
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Speaker 1: it out. I don't know yet. I feel like some
Speaker 1: of your older guests might have been able to figure
Speaker 1: it out earlier. So I'm a little, uh, I'm a
Speaker 1: little embarrassed by that. You know, we have this technology
Speaker 1: and then we'll we'll find out if you're a millennial.
Speaker 1: We want to see there, I'll share, I'll share. Okay
Speaker 1: for lawn full launch Asparency love it now now that
Speaker 1: we've got that out of the way right now now
Speaker 1: now they were fully on. So I want to start
Speaker 1: with the coronavirus. And I know you've been posting a
Speaker 1: lot about this on Twitter, and everybody should be following
Speaker 1: on Twitter because you have a pretty dynamic Twitter and
Speaker 1: you tweet at least every five seconds, so it's always
Speaker 1: twenty times a day. Lisa bof is not so. I
Speaker 1: mean a lot of people are. So, We're a lot
Speaker 1: in the same post. Millions of Americans just celebrated Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: last week, and they did it without their families and
Speaker 1: a lot of cases because of COVID nineteen. Some cities
Speaker 1: and states are reimposing certain lockdown measures as the cases
Speaker 1: have increased, Which brings me to something you recently tweeted.
Speaker 1: Since we're talking about your Twitter, and it really caught
Speaker 1: my eye. You wrote, as much as this year has sucked,
Speaker 1: it has forced a rep prioritization of the things that
Speaker 1: actually matter in life. And then you say, before I
Speaker 1: got so caught up in a busy day to day,
Speaker 1: I was focused on things that aren't actually fulfilling. That
Speaker 1: really struck me. Can you elaborate on what you met
Speaker 1: and they into which you were thinking of politics? Well,
Speaker 1: hopefully I spilled everything correctly, but everything correct No, I mean, so,
Speaker 1: here's the thing I think with COVID, and you probably
Speaker 1: I'm sure you feel similarly. So, I mean, look in
Speaker 1: our day to day lives, especially when you're living in
Speaker 1: cities like New York, it's it's go, go, go, right,
Speaker 1: like you're you're going into the office, you're meeting with friends,
Speaker 1: you're going to a happy hour, you're doing this, you're
Speaker 1: doing that, You're trying to get this thing going, and
Speaker 1: you're just so busy. And I think a lot of
Speaker 1: the times when you're that busy, you actually don't really
Speaker 1: have time for sort of like stillness and self reflection
Speaker 1: and sort of figuring out what do you actually want
Speaker 1: for your life? Are you at the place in your
Speaker 1: life that you truly want to be? And with COVID
Speaker 1: it's forced stillness in a way. Early for me, I
Speaker 1: haven't really had and quite some times I've always been go, go, go, busy, busy,
Speaker 1: busy and not really taking a moment to really be
Speaker 1: stopping and looking at my life. And I think with
Speaker 1: the coronavirus, I mean I went home to my parents
Speaker 1: house for like three months, which I thought I was
Speaker 1: escaping shutdowns by leaving New York and then Virginia also
Speaker 1: shut down, so jokes on me, but it was nice
Speaker 1: to spend that time at home. And it was also
Speaker 1: just at times like really sort of sit back and
Speaker 1: kind of like taken my life and sort of figure
Speaker 1: out like what do I really want and have I
Speaker 1: been doing things right? And have I been making the
Speaker 1: right decisions, and I think that's healthy and you know,
Speaker 1: and it actually I think it's led to some productive
Speaker 1: things and some changes that I've been making that I
Speaker 1: think her for the better that maybe would have happened
Speaker 1: if I hadn't have had that time for stillness as
Speaker 1: it brought you closer to God, it actually has, and
Speaker 1: it's probably closer to my family as well, particularly my parents.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm thirty five, so like the last
Speaker 1: time I've spent that much time at home, like it
Speaker 1: was probably before college, right, like when you're in high school.
Speaker 1: So just sort of being able to spend that time
Speaker 1: at home, spending that time and also just kind of
Speaker 1: made me realize to like, I mean, this is probably
Speaker 1: getting really real. But like even just wanting a family, right,
Speaker 1: like wanting to get married, wanting these things that like
Speaker 1: I didn't necessarily give as much time and thought to
Speaker 1: pre COVID, you know, because you're just so busy, like
Speaker 1: living your day to day and just kind of realizing
Speaker 1: like and like, look, work is important, and like we're
Speaker 1: both strivers, were both people who really want success and
Speaker 1: want to work hard to achieve our goals, and those
Speaker 1: are things I still want for my life. But I
Speaker 1: think I put so much emphasis on the workfront and
Speaker 1: what I wanted from that and kind of let my
Speaker 1: personal life and let the things that actually bring more
Speaker 1: fulfillment sort of like subside and not paid as much
Speaker 1: attention to that. And I like that's at least one
Speaker 1: of the big things that I've kind of recognized for myself.
Speaker 1: So so not a lack of desire. I still really
Speaker 1: want to be successful, and certaly really want you are successful.
Speaker 1: Let's thank you. Success is a day to day I
Speaker 1: think your point is so salient, especially when it comes
Speaker 1: to me. So I've been thinking about marriage and family
Speaker 1: a lot. And I'm two years younger than you know.
Speaker 1: I'm thirty three, but i'll be thirty four December seven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, but still in on. I don't
Speaker 1: want to be like an old dad. And I have
Speaker 1: a friend who got married maybe a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: and he will be like kind of an older guy
Speaker 1: that's like fifty years old picking up his kids from
Speaker 1: pre k and I was like, I don't want to
Speaker 1: have that from my life. I wanna be somewhat young.
Speaker 1: So I get what you're saying and I think there's
Speaker 1: millions of Americans that are thinking the same thing. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of people that are getting married during COVID,
Speaker 1: so that that's an interesting perspective that I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people can agree with. And speaking of New York,
Speaker 1: since you mentioned that, and I know you know you've
Speaker 1: been living there for quite a while, the Supreme Court
Speaker 1: just temporarily barred New York strict restrictions on a number
Speaker 1: of people who can attend religious services and houses of
Speaker 1: worships worship. Brother Governor Andrew Como has imposed no capacity
Speaker 1: restrictions on certain businesses such as liquor stores and bis
Speaker 1: repair shops and a lot of other things. But churches
Speaker 1: and synagogues are somehow you know, you gotta you gotta
Speaker 1: watch watch those folks going into these religious ceremonies. We
Speaker 1: don't know what may happen with the COVID, but keep
Speaker 1: the liquor stores open. We're good with that. What do
Speaker 1: you think of that, Well, it's tyranny. It's tyranny because
Speaker 1: you look at the unequal application of the First Amendments,
Speaker 1: like we look at the fact that you've got people
Speaker 1: like build the Blasio. No problem with thousands of people
Speaker 1: going out in the streets to riot, the you know,
Speaker 1: set cop cars on fire to try to cause harm
Speaker 1: to the city. It's really actually gonna hurt the people
Speaker 1: they purport to care about. So the no problem with that,
Speaker 1: That's totally cool, Like go out in the masses, no masks,
Speaker 1: be around people, or go out and celebrate after the election,
Speaker 1: that's totally well. But if you want but if but
Speaker 1: if you want to go worship, if you want to
Speaker 1: go practice your religion, if you want to practice that
Speaker 1: element of the First Amendment, no dice, that's not welcome
Speaker 1: in the city of New York. And so it just
Speaker 1: goes to show what hypocrites these people are we're seeing
Speaker 1: this time. I mean, it's it's it's like it's just
Speaker 1: so much right, you look at people like Nancy Pelosi
Speaker 1: going to get her hair done when other people can't
Speaker 1: and businesses can't be open and salons can't be open,
Speaker 1: and people can't be earning a living. Same thing with
Speaker 1: Lorie Lightfoot going out in the middle of the pandemic done.
Speaker 1: She did that getting her hair and Johnah, she said,
Speaker 1: because she's a public face. Like you know, right, like
Speaker 1: there's how many how many people are like running successful
Speaker 1: businesses or or whatever, like doing their jobs and happen
Speaker 1: to be on zoo calls, also happening to care about
Speaker 1: their appearance. Right, But somehow Lorie Lightfoot is better than them,
Speaker 1: is entitled to that when the rest of our citizens aren't,
Speaker 1: When people at barber shops or salons are struggling to survive,
Speaker 1: but like, no, you know it doesn't matter for you,
Speaker 1: but you could open for me to go get my
Speaker 1: hair done. But if you want to try to earn
Speaker 1: a living and put food on the table of the
Speaker 1: you know the table if you're a family, No, right,
Speaker 1: so like it's and then or even look at the
Speaker 1: mayor of Denver, right tweeting you got to stay home,
Speaker 1: do zoom calls online for Thanksgiving, don't spend time with
Speaker 1: your family, don't travel And then he goes on and
Speaker 1: gets on a flight. These people don't believe any of
Speaker 1: the things that they're pushing. They don't believe their own guidelines.
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom. People look at yeah, going out to French
Speaker 1: laundry with a bunch of people indoor dining in the
Speaker 1: Meanwhile in l A they're shutting down outdoor dining and
Speaker 1: sing Yeah, it's all garbage. They don't even believe the
Speaker 1: science and their own guidelines. Yeah, yeah, you're correct about that.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you, being a person who's lived in
Speaker 1: l A since seventeen two months in to the l
Speaker 1: A shutdown, I just couldn't do it anymore. And I decided.
Speaker 1: It was a Wednesday night at eleven PM, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest for the audience. I was watching Bad
Speaker 1: Boys three and I said it would be interesting to
Speaker 1: live in Miami. And that was a Wednesday. By that
Speaker 1: following Wednesday, I was on a plane to Miami looking
Speaker 1: for places. About that next Friday, I was actually moving
Speaker 1: in to the Intercontinental Miami while I was waiting to
Speaker 1: get approved for the place that I'm in now. And
Speaker 1: I know that you have talked about on social media.
Speaker 1: You and I have talked about it personally about how
Speaker 1: upset you are about the tyranny that's going on in
Speaker 1: New York and it may bring about a change in
Speaker 1: terms of where you're living. Is that right? Yeah? I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm actually we're going to be neighbors because I so.
Speaker 1: During the pandemic, like early on, I spent two weeks
Speaker 1: in Florida and it was free, you know. And then
Speaker 1: I'm so I was literally free, like the trip was free. No, no, god,
Speaker 1: it wish it was open. It was open. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that Spirit Airlines. But okay, I have flown Spirit, but
Speaker 1: I have to my person last time. It's till it's
Speaker 1: treat whatever. I'm all about saving a book. So no,
Speaker 1: it was just it was freedom, right, So like it
Speaker 1: just was a completely different mentality of approaching the coronavirus
Speaker 1: and what I had been experiencing in Virginia when I
Speaker 1: was staying in my parents, and then also when I
Speaker 1: went back to New York and what I've been experiencing
Speaker 1: here for the past few months. It's just a completely
Speaker 1: different mentality. And so I thought to myself, I am
Speaker 1: tired of living in a place like New York City
Speaker 1: where it's tyranny right, where there's an unequal application of
Speaker 1: the regulations and an equal application of the rules, and
Speaker 1: also a lot of times things that scientifically aren't even sound.
Speaker 1: And then also what I mentioned before was sort of
Speaker 1: like the stillness aspect a city like New York. It's go,
Speaker 1: go go, And so when you don't have those things,
Speaker 1: like you don't have all the restaurants. You don't have
Speaker 1: the plays, you don't have the you know, going out
Speaker 1: at night, you don't have all these things that keep
Speaker 1: you busy. You sort of stop and take in the
Speaker 1: city and you're like, this city sucks, right, It's gross.
Speaker 1: It smells like p there's trash everywhere. There's freaking giant
Speaker 1: racks that rats that are like taking over the city
Speaker 1: right now. You've got people, you know, going around shooting
Speaker 1: up drugs, walking around naked, got people that want to
Speaker 1: do harm to the city with with I am going
Speaker 1: up with the riots that we've seen as well, breaking
Speaker 1: in stores, looting, and you're just like, why am I here?
Speaker 1: And you pay so much money for rent? Taxes are
Speaker 1: enormous and you're not getting anything from it. So I said,
Speaker 1: I'm done with this. I'm moving to a place where
Speaker 1: there's freedom and a place that has a mentality that's
Speaker 1: closer to the one that I believe, which is, you know,
Speaker 1: freedom and you know sort of anti thiss tyrannical government
Speaker 1: that we're seeing right now, and so many cities like
Speaker 1: New York. So I am escaping and I am so excited,
Speaker 1: and I am just ready to get out of here
Speaker 1: to be honest, Yeah, and I look forward to you
Speaker 1: being here. I'm looking for a good neighbors. I'm excited
Speaker 1: we're gonna be able to hang out. So this is
Speaker 1: gonna be awesome. America is deeply polarized and politically divided,
Speaker 1: and I think some would rightly argue that the country
Speaker 1: has never been more divided. Is it possible to unify
Speaker 1: and bridge this gap? Do you think that's possible? And
Speaker 1: I know that's a tough question. Do you think it's possible? Well,
Speaker 1: I think we've probably actually always been, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: divided to some degree, right, So, I mean we used
Speaker 1: to have like way back in the day, like they
Speaker 1: beat each other up like that. I think it was,
Speaker 1: like you know, I mean, so I think there's always
Speaker 1: been like divide in the country. I think a lot
Speaker 1: of it is more focused and more on the forefront
Speaker 1: because of social media, right, so that brings more attention
Speaker 1: to it, and we sort of see it in real
Speaker 1: time because you sort of like see people fighting with
Speaker 1: each other on Twitter, Whereas maybe that stuff was sort
Speaker 1: of behind the scenes before social media bring into the forefront.
Speaker 1: So I think it's always kind of in like that.
Speaker 1: I do have a concern that there are less things
Speaker 1: that unite us. And you know, when you look at
Speaker 1: even like standing for the flag is now political and
Speaker 1: and sort of everything has kind of become political, which
Speaker 1: has created this toxic environment, which I think has sort
Speaker 1: of led to maybe further division in the sense of
Speaker 1: if you can't have anything that isn't political goal whereas
Speaker 1: you look at like the NFL is political, NBA's political
Speaker 1: corporations are now taking political stances. Every award show you
Speaker 1: watch is political, so like every commercials are political now,
Speaker 1: so like literally everything is political, and so that creates
Speaker 1: a lot of toxicity. So I think the way to
Speaker 1: actually create more unification, or at least to allow people
Speaker 1: to kind of like take a breathe, breather and take
Speaker 1: a break from it is I don't think any of
Speaker 1: these companies should be taking political stances. I don't think
Speaker 1: you've got Twitter that the Twitter is entirely political now,
Speaker 1: and I think that's the that's the source of the
Speaker 1: poison in the country from my perspective. To be honest,
Speaker 1: I completely agree, Lisa, But let's pick that back up
Speaker 1: when we come back from the break. Stay with us.
Speaker 1: You know what it seems to me, especially with mainstream media,
Speaker 1: and I think we can throw in Twitter, Facebook, Instagram
Speaker 1: is mainstream media now because everyone uses it. And what
Speaker 1: we saw in this past election especially, is a social
Speaker 1: media company is looking to calue with the Democrats to
Speaker 1: ensure that there's a Biden win and that that was
Speaker 1: their aim. That was their goal, and they've been working
Speaker 1: this goal and aim four years now. I think we
Speaker 1: saw after the election that people was reported that folks
Speaker 1: at Google was saying that they should have done more
Speaker 1: to try to see that Donald Trump would lose the election.
Speaker 1: And it's it seems like, I think for a lot
Speaker 1: of Americans, when we're in a divided society like this, conservatives,
Speaker 1: I think it felt under attack for many many years
Speaker 1: and it just hadn't been necessarily seen. That's why Fox
Speaker 1: News was such a popular network because it was the
Speaker 1: only one that wasn't a part of the mainstream crowd.
Speaker 1: But conservatives head at least a corner to go into
Speaker 1: to hear this free thought things that they agree with
Speaker 1: and also see a challenge because you know, of course
Speaker 1: on Fox Democrats and Republicans going and debate the issues.
Speaker 1: So now to me, it seems like the country, I
Speaker 1: don't know how we're gonna unify beyond this moment because
Speaker 1: Democrats have helped divide the country. May stream media has
Speaker 1: helped divide the country, and they can't go out and say, hey,
Speaker 1: not that the election is semi over, although the election
Speaker 1: results aren't official just yet. They can't go around and say, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, we need to come together. No, you've been
Speaker 1: a part of the poison pill, as you just stated, Lisa,
Speaker 1: and you know what we need to do is talk
Speaker 1: some truth and facts, and I'm not hearing a lot
Speaker 1: of truth coming from the mainstream media. They've been a
Speaker 1: part of this toxic culture. Well yeah, And it's hilarious
Speaker 1: because you've got all these people who basically for the
Speaker 1: entirety of the Trump administration saying that everyone supports Trump
Speaker 1: is racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, which none of these things
Speaker 1: are true, but labeling Trump supporters is all these all
Speaker 1: these like horrific terms, right, and then now they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: we need to unify, and you're like, screw you, Like
Speaker 1: I don't want to unify you. You've literally called us
Speaker 1: all these names. I will I don't. I don't want
Speaker 1: to unify you. In fact, what I want to do
Speaker 1: is to go out in two and defeat you and
Speaker 1: then go out in defeat you again because your policies
Speaker 1: are toxic and you're part of the problem. And so no,
Speaker 1: I don't want to unite with you, Like I think
Speaker 1: that's ridiculous to even ask that, and it showed it's
Speaker 1: like so arrogant. And if you look at too, like
Speaker 1: why these social media companies worked so hard to defeat
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, The reason is he was so successful in
Speaker 1: utilizing them. Remember that one of the Facebook exects, I
Speaker 1: can't remember his name off the top of my head,
Speaker 1: but he came out and said that basically the Trump
Speaker 1: campaign had used face like the campaigns that they the
Speaker 1: campaigns that they had run were better than any other
Speaker 1: campaign he's ever seen, and we're wildly successful in helping
Speaker 1: him win the White House. And so that's why after
Speaker 1: that moment after lunch, and we've seen this turnabout, particularly
Speaker 1: from the left, of trying to get Twitter to shut
Speaker 1: down the Trump campaign, trying to push for this censorship
Speaker 1: is to stop him from utilizing those tools successfully, and
Speaker 1: they were able to do that in a great regard
Speaker 1: because as you mentioned, you know, Twitter literally suppressing even
Speaker 1: the share rain of the Hunter Biden story and stopping
Speaker 1: that and then shutting down conservatives, taking them off Twitter,
Speaker 1: suspending those accounts. And that's really we're actually in a really,
Speaker 1: really scary places of society because if you look at
Speaker 1: the fact that so we've had people on the left
Speaker 1: for years now the humanized Trump supporters literally just to
Speaker 1: human It's the same thing that democrats do on abortion
Speaker 1: when they call unborn babies clumps of selves. Right, if
Speaker 1: you dehumanize something, if you make it seem less than,
Speaker 1: then bad things happen. Right, You're opening the door for
Speaker 1: the kind of violence we saw against Trump supporters during
Speaker 1: the march. We saw in Washington, d C. After the election,
Speaker 1: it got violent at night with Antifa and Black Lives Matter.
Speaker 1: It opens the door for Democrats trying to put Trump
Speaker 1: supporters on lists, and all of that continues to go
Speaker 1: down some really dangerous past that we we should not
Speaker 1: be going down as a country, particularly when you go
Speaker 1: back and you know, look at things historically. So it's
Speaker 1: we're we're in a bad place right now. And you
Speaker 1: know what's interesting to me that you mentioned the list.
Speaker 1: When I see folks on the left, what they do
Speaker 1: not just Trump supporters, but just conservatives in general, the
Speaker 1: way they attack, the things that they say on mainstream media,
Speaker 1: the MSNBC s and the CNNs of the world, the
Speaker 1: things that they say, and how it's just accepted and
Speaker 1: it's embraced. And I'm talking about some of these very
Speaker 1: negative basket of deplorables that the no Hillary Clinton said that.
Speaker 1: But it's just as oh, if you're a Trump supporter,
Speaker 1: if you vote for conservatives in general, you're a racist,
Speaker 1: point blank period. And of course, me growing up on
Speaker 1: the South Side of Chicago, that's what I was taught
Speaker 1: from from birth. Basically, if the person is a Republican,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter the content of their character, any of
Speaker 1: those things, then they're legitimately a racist. That was what
Speaker 1: I was taught, and it took years before I learned
Speaker 1: the real truth. But the interesting part is they continue
Speaker 1: to push this, Oh, we're about unity, we're about love,
Speaker 1: we're not about discrimination. But yet and still the folks
Speaker 1: who are supposedly not about discrimination are the ones that
Speaker 1: discriminate the most. It's insane, It's completely insane, and I
Speaker 1: just to understand, how do how do they even go
Speaker 1: out with these mantras in their party. It doesn't make
Speaker 1: any sense to me. You guys are none of the
Speaker 1: things that you say that you are. You're not about
Speaker 1: love and unity as you say you are, because you
Speaker 1: will say that and then you'll say something evil and
Speaker 1: sinister in the next moment. So what's the point. Well,
Speaker 1: and their policies are set that somehow we're all inherently
Speaker 1: born different, that we're all inherently born in different places
Speaker 1: in life. And I think the way conservatives view the
Speaker 1: world is we're all the same, right, like we're not
Speaker 1: we were all we're all born like we're all God's children.
Speaker 1: Is the way that like I was taught to view life, right, like,
Speaker 1: we're all just human beings. And I think democrats have
Speaker 1: a different viewpoint. And when you look at everything through
Speaker 1: you know, racial lens, through uh you know, lens of sex,
Speaker 1: through all these different lens, of course, that's going to
Speaker 1: lead to division because you're seeing the world differently, you're
Speaker 1: seeing people in different lights versus just seeing everyone as
Speaker 1: human beings. Right, So, like, yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I think their policies and the way they view the
Speaker 1: world is inherently discriminatory and it's wrong personally, Like I
Speaker 1: I think we should work on policies that just up
Speaker 1: uplift all Americans, right Like, regardless of race, regardless of sex,
Speaker 1: We're all just human beings. We're all at the same level,
Speaker 1: the same playing level. And I think you know, obviously
Speaker 1: there are things that you know, really make it hard
Speaker 1: for people to compete in life when you look at
Speaker 1: especially income, right Like, so certainly someone regardless of race,
Speaker 1: if you're born into a poorer neighborhood, you have less
Speaker 1: advantages of someone born into a higher income level. So
Speaker 1: I certainly believe in giving people hand up in life
Speaker 1: who need it, particularly from like a socio economic stance.
Speaker 1: But you're right, like, I think a lot of the
Speaker 1: way that the left us of the world leads to
Speaker 1: a lot of division. I think Trump was really able
Speaker 1: to capture that and to see that in the sense
Speaker 1: it like, I don't know, I feel like where we
Speaker 1: are right now in society, I really feel like the
Speaker 1: people in charge and the people that have the most power,
Speaker 1: I've never been more out of touch with the rest
Speaker 1: of America. Like, I don't know if you feel the
Speaker 1: same way. And COVID and and you know, John of
Speaker 1: COVID's made it so much worse because we've seen this
Speaker 1: like massive transfer of wealth and everyone on who's rich
Speaker 1: has gotten richer, and then people that are like middle
Speaker 1: class have suffered more because if you have a small business,
Speaker 1: a lot of those businesses are gone, the people who
Speaker 1: work for them no longer have jobs. And especially like
Speaker 1: that generational wealth in the sense of if you have
Speaker 1: a family run business and it's under that means like
Speaker 1: everything your parents work forced gone, everything your grandparents worked
Speaker 1: worth gone, and what you're going to leave to your
Speaker 1: kids is gone. Right, And and then all the policies
Speaker 1: that we're seeing from the left are making it worse
Speaker 1: because when you continue to shut things down, when you
Speaker 1: continue to lock things down, it's the middle class and
Speaker 1: it's the hard working Americans that are suffering, and all
Speaker 1: your elite rich friends on the left are getting richer.
Speaker 1: And it's really messed up, and we're going to be
Speaker 1: dealing with the consequences of this for a long time
Speaker 1: to come. Yeah, correct about that now. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: I was reading some reporting that said that over four
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand businesses have fouled bankortcyasons to started
Speaker 1: the pandemic. So I'm imagining that number is growing tremendolee
Speaker 1: since then, and that brings me to my next topic,
Speaker 1: which is about the politics of it all. How is
Speaker 1: the House gonna look. We gain a lot of House
Speaker 1: seats this past election, and we're hopefully gonna be able
Speaker 1: to win these runoffs in Georgia, which are extraordinarily important,
Speaker 1: and encourage everyone who's under the sound of my voice,
Speaker 1: whether you be conservative or not, you, if you live
Speaker 1: in Georgia, vote for the Republican And I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you why. You should want to see divided government. You
Speaker 1: should wanna make government compromise and work together for the
Speaker 1: good of all. You should want to see that. And
Speaker 1: I think that's personally what's good, whether it be Trump's
Speaker 1: in office or as the Joe Biden presidency. Again, the
Speaker 1: election results aren't officially at this time, so whoever's in
Speaker 1: the presidential seat at that point, you should want to
Speaker 1: see all sides work together for the good of all Americans,
Speaker 1: not just one party rule. And that the I think
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, that's the best outcome
Speaker 1: for things to get done and force those who we
Speaker 1: are paying to go work for us, not to just
Speaker 1: sit around on and not do anything but actually work
Speaker 1: for the American people. So what do you think the
Speaker 1: outcome may look like. Who do you think would be
Speaker 1: the frontrunner for for the presidency. Well, I hope for
Speaker 1: purposes of the January five runoffs. You're totally right. Republicans
Speaker 1: have to win. Anyone who is listening in Georgia, you
Speaker 1: have to get out, you have to vote, get your
Speaker 1: family because Republicans need a check if Joe Biden is
Speaker 1: in the White House, if Democrats have the House, which
Speaker 1: they're going to have, you need a check in the Senate.
Speaker 1: And the difference that that's going to make is being
Speaker 1: able to prevent people like Bernie Sanders potentially serving in
Speaker 1: the cabinet. You're gonna get more moderate cabinet positions versus
Speaker 1: some of these crazy progressives that we're saying. You're going
Speaker 1: to get more moderate judges versus liberal judges, and you're
Speaker 1: going to prevent Democrats. If Democrats have a majority in
Speaker 1: the Senate, they already talked about potentially blowing up the filmbuster.
Speaker 1: If they do that, they can create they can create
Speaker 1: a you know, two extra Senate seats with Washington, D C.
Speaker 1: And Puerto Rico. They can do things like the Green
Speaker 1: New Deal. All bets are off at that point. So
Speaker 1: that's why Republicans need to have a Senate in two.
Speaker 1: I think you're going to see an uprising because, as
Speaker 1: we've been discussing, the people that are in charge in
Speaker 1: this country are so wildly out of touch with actual Americans.
Speaker 1: And the funny thing is the Left always tries to
Speaker 1: pretend like they're the party of the working classes, which
Speaker 1: now is Republicans, but their policies and their shutdowns have
Speaker 1: probably done more to hurt the working class than maybe
Speaker 1: any other policies in history. They have destroyed the middle
Speaker 1: class right now during COVID. So I think what we're
Speaker 1: gonna see in two is similar to what we saw
Speaker 1: in twenty ten with the Tea Party, similar to what
Speaker 1: we saw a President Trump happened to that populism in
Speaker 1: and again of just this feeling that the people in
Speaker 1: charge do not represent us. Because what you're going to
Speaker 1: have is, if it's Joe Biden in the White House,
Speaker 1: someone who's been there forty seven years, right, what does
Speaker 1: he know about real America after being in the swamp
Speaker 1: for forty seven years. You're gonna have Nancy Pelosi, who's
Speaker 1: been in office for decades, and regardless of it's Mitch McConnell,
Speaker 1: which exchumber, you're gonna have someone there who's been in
Speaker 1: office for decades. So you're gonna have everyone who's in
Speaker 1: charge having been in public office for so long that
Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's impossible to stay in touch
Speaker 1: with the average American when you've been in Washington, d c.
Speaker 1: And tainted by government which is inherently corrup for that long.
Speaker 1: And like credit to Mims McConnell for getting conservative judges in,
Speaker 1: but still he's been there for so long. Okay, So
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have a lot of people just
Speaker 1: feeling like they're not represented. And then you're going to
Speaker 1: have these corporations that have now gotten and consolidated so
Speaker 1: much more wealth because of COVID, they're going to have,
Speaker 1: you know, the economy is going to be hard hit
Speaker 1: because all of these jobs that employ so many Americans,
Speaker 1: all these small businesses are going to you know, probably
Speaker 1: not have survived COVID. And then you're also going to
Speaker 1: have the fear from COVID having subsided with the coronavirus vaccine.
Speaker 1: So we're going to be left with the dust settling
Speaker 1: and a full picture of the carnage from coronavirus, which
Speaker 1: is going to be essentially, you know, largely a lot
Speaker 1: of economic calamity as well as children falling further behind
Speaker 1: in schools. And I think there's just gonna be this
Speaker 1: disenfranchisement and this anger and this you know, voters feeling
Speaker 1: really disaffected and not represented, and they're going to turn
Speaker 1: out in mass and I think we're gonna see a
Speaker 1: lot of primaries, uh, and we're gonna see Republicans taking
Speaker 1: back the House. I really do think so. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: agree with that assessment fully, and I think there's gonna
Speaker 1: be some governorships that go from Democrat to Republican hands,
Speaker 1: and certainly some some local races that are going to
Speaker 1: do the same thing. I think people and even in
Speaker 1: cases where Republicans may have been too strict and some
Speaker 1: of these local areas, if they went the way of
Speaker 1: the Democrats, I can see them being voted out as well.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, it's about we the people,
Speaker 1: not we the political party. And I think at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, for a lot of Americans, they're
Speaker 1: just piste off. They want to live their life like
Speaker 1: they were living in before we can do so safely.
Speaker 1: And what is it gonna do? The shutdown a bar
Speaker 1: or restaurant at nine or ten o'clock. Does that stop COVID?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I mean, do you are you
Speaker 1: aware of any science? I could be wrong, So that's
Speaker 1: why I'd like to ask, are you aware of any science?
Speaker 1: Say COVID stops is on break or maybe he takes
Speaker 1: off of the night or what. I guess that's like
Speaker 1: the COVID witching hour or something. But yeah, like that's
Speaker 1: when it comes it out more. But you know this say,
Speaker 1: is what I really get frustrated with with the coronavirus
Speaker 1: coverage is you can desire to put the coronavirus in
Speaker 1: context and to provide perspective while still taking it seriously
Speaker 1: and not wanting anyone you love to get it because
Speaker 1: you still see I mean, the problem what we've seen
Speaker 1: from the media and really from the start and what
Speaker 1: they did. It was almost the entirety of the coverage
Speaker 1: had like the same people saying the same things on
Speaker 1: about the coronavirus, and there was a lot of dissenters
Speaker 1: and a lot of people out there, like distinguished people
Speaker 1: like Dr E. Needs of Stanford. He was like one
Speaker 1: of the you know, world renown epidemiologists. He's debunked more
Speaker 1: bad research than like most people. I think he's like
Speaker 1: one of the cited epidemiologists in the country. You had
Speaker 1: people like Dr Scott Atlas out there. These are distinguished,
Speaker 1: intelligent people that were raising different points. And like what
Speaker 1: Dr Needs was saying, I believe back in March, or
Speaker 1: maybe it was even yeah, I think it was back
Speaker 1: in March. And what he was talking about is that
Speaker 1: from his perspective and looking at the data, that the
Speaker 1: death rate was actually significantly lower than what was being
Speaker 1: talked about at the time because we didn't really have
Speaker 1: a great data set to look at to look at
Speaker 1: both infectivity rates and death rates. And he was right,
Speaker 1: and nobody listened to him. And then further than that,
Speaker 1: not only did people listen not listen to him, but
Speaker 1: they condemned him. He was called names, he was ridiculed,
Speaker 1: and you actually look at the death rate and where
Speaker 1: we are today, he was right, and it's probably even
Speaker 1: lower than we actually think because the CDC has already
Speaker 1: said that we're missing cases by like tenfold because of
Speaker 1: how many asymptomatic and mild cases there are, And what
Speaker 1: that would mean is that the death rate is actually
Speaker 1: lower than what we're looking at. Even now that's not
Speaker 1: saying it's not serious. I mean, of course you can
Speaker 1: look at the data and look at the fact that
Speaker 1: you know, if you're seventy and older, if you have
Speaker 1: underlying conditions, of course it's scary to get it and
Speaker 1: you don't want to get it, and so we have
Speaker 1: to protect those people. So you can look at all
Speaker 1: that context and you know, look at it and still
Speaker 1: take it seriously while providing context and perspective, but that
Speaker 1: that context and perspective has really been lacking and the
Speaker 1: way it's been covered. Yeah, but let's pick that up
Speaker 1: when we come back after the break. I just think
Speaker 1: that if there is Joe Biden as president and I
Speaker 1: and I want to be clear for people on one
Speaker 1: point here beyond just the COVID, because I know people say, like, hey, Giano,
Speaker 1: the the election is really over. Trump is going to lose.
Speaker 1: Joe Biden got ten million more votes and all this
Speaker 1: other stuff and he's losing lawsuits, et cetera. Here's the
Speaker 1: Here's the point that I want to draw the people
Speaker 1: President Trump has not conceded. As of the recording of
Speaker 1: this podcast, President Trump still has ongoing lawsuits. And I
Speaker 1: believe that you have to respect the process. The electors
Speaker 1: have to go in and elect whoever, whoever the president
Speaker 1: is going to be, and that's still an ongoing process.
Speaker 1: So with respect to the fact that there's a lot
Speaker 1: going on in this space right now, it is not
Speaker 1: up to me to decide who the president is. Is
Speaker 1: not up to me or the mainstream needed to decide
Speaker 1: or or say who's president or not not. Rather for
Speaker 1: there to be the lawsuits, you know, have their way
Speaker 1: and we see what happens there before we start saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: President Trump is absolutely out office and he's done. I'd
Speaker 1: rather let the process play out before we make any declarations.
Speaker 1: So with that being said, and you know, moving beyond COVID,
Speaker 1: now that we kind of have an idea of at
Speaker 1: least what we predict may happen in two Let's say,
Speaker 1: in the event, any event that Donald Trump is not
Speaker 1: president and Joe Biden is actually sworn in as President
Speaker 1: of the United States. President of the United States, who
Speaker 1: do you think would be the likely GOP front runner
Speaker 1: in I like de Santis. To be honest, I like
Speaker 1: Ron De Santis a lot. One because he will be
Speaker 1: my new governor. Two. I like the fact that I
Speaker 1: think from a policy perspective, he shares a lot of
Speaker 1: like the beliefs and sentiments of President Trump. I also
Speaker 1: think he's a fighter in the sense of if you
Speaker 1: look at I mean, he faced fierce backlash on the
Speaker 1: coronavirus in the way that Florida's estate was handling coronavirus,
Speaker 1: especially in contrast with states like New York and California,
Speaker 1: and he did not back down. And that's the path
Speaker 1: forward for Republicans because, as we've noted throughout our conversations,
Speaker 1: everyone's against us, right. So you've got most of the
Speaker 1: media is against us. Corporations are against us. Twitter is
Speaker 1: literally trying, you know, rigged the election against Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: The left is against us, right, So the deck is
Speaker 1: stacked against us. And the only way you win is
Speaker 1: with someone who's tough enough to withstand that and withstand
Speaker 1: the heat. And so you have to have a fighter.
Speaker 1: You can't have another Rhymney, you can't have another George W. Bush.
Speaker 1: You can't have someone who just backs down, he capitulates
Speaker 1: and bows down to the left, and once they're you know,
Speaker 1: once they're praise, you have to have someone who's going
Speaker 1: to double down and fight. Yeah, you know you that's
Speaker 1: an interesting point. I never ever ever thought about Rhonda
Speaker 1: Santez is a guy that would I would see running
Speaker 1: for president. But you I think you you you provided
Speaker 1: an analysis that a lot of people, after listening to
Speaker 1: this podcast, they're gonna think and say, wow, I never
Speaker 1: thought about that, but maybe you're right. He did double
Speaker 1: down in Florida. He said, hey, I'm moving removing all
Speaker 1: COVID related restrictions. There will be no restrictions. I want
Speaker 1: to ensure that businesses are open and they can thrive. Now,
Speaker 1: there's local restrictions in some some areas like local city
Speaker 1: councils or or county govern him as have applied restrictions,
Speaker 1: but there's no no restrictions from the state level. So
Speaker 1: I think that does vote well. But you don't think
Speaker 1: a guy like Mike Pence, maybe a guy to run,
Speaker 1: a good Christian guy who who served as governor of
Speaker 1: Indiana and of course served as Donald Trump's vice president,
Speaker 1: you don't think he would make for a really splendid
Speaker 1: presidential candidate. I like the Vice president a lot. I
Speaker 1: have an immense amount of respect for him. I think
Speaker 1: he is such a good man. I think he's a
Speaker 1: smart man. And when he was getting so much he
Speaker 1: for saying that, you know, he respects his wife too
Speaker 1: much to go out and have dinners with female staff
Speaker 1: or other I actually respect that was right before the
Speaker 1: me to era too. Yeah, Like I think he's yeah,
Speaker 1: So I think he is such a good man. So
Speaker 1: like I really I have no like, I think he's amazing.
Speaker 1: I just I think we need work in a place
Speaker 1: politically where the left, even though they got what they
Speaker 1: wanted from the election, they're still making enemies less. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's that's not enough for them. So we're in a
Speaker 1: place where we just need someone who's fearless and who's
Speaker 1: a fighter. I also don't think that I will ever
Speaker 1: vote for someone in a primary who isn't a business
Speaker 1: and a business person man or woman, or a governor,
Speaker 1: because I just don't think when you're in the Senate
Speaker 1: or Congress, I just don't think you have the tools
Speaker 1: you need to govern and the way that you obviously
Speaker 1: develop as a governor or business person. And I think
Speaker 1: the reason why President Trump was such a successful president
Speaker 1: was because he really did have an outsider perspective. I mean,
Speaker 1: you go back and you look at that clip from
Speaker 1: John Kerry in ten he said the only path to
Speaker 1: peace in the Middle East is through the Palestinians. Like
Speaker 1: that's basically the school of thought that all these people
Speaker 1: before had about solving the Middle East problem. And then
Speaker 1: here Trump comes in with an entirely different perspective, a
Speaker 1: business perspective, and has gotten more AIRB Israel deals than
Speaker 1: we have ever had in history done in a single term,
Speaker 1: and so or or even just using tariffs to try
Speaker 1: to get Mexico to step up on a legal immigration,
Speaker 1: using that to solve problem, using sanctions smartly against Iran,
Speaker 1: uh so, just literally looking at things from an entirely
Speaker 1: different problem solving perspective as an outsider and someone who's
Speaker 1: done negotiations and business dealings in the past. Whereas the
Speaker 1: reason why Joe Biden is going to be if he
Speaker 1: ends up in the White House, which you know, looks
Speaker 1: like that's probably gonna be the case, the reason why
Speaker 1: he's going to be such a bad president is because
Speaker 1: he's been in DC for forty seven years. So every
Speaker 1: belief every way he views a problem is from that
Speaker 1: sort of toxic, corrupt government perspective and also viewing the
Speaker 1: problems in the same failed way that all the politicians
Speaker 1: before him have viewed the problems. And that's why when
Speaker 1: you look at the issues, he's literally been wrong about
Speaker 1: pretty much everything, and he's going to be a terrible
Speaker 1: president and we're all going to suffer as a result
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, and I would tell you Joe Biden's
Speaker 1: flip flap more times than Gucci sandals on South Beach Market.
Speaker 1: I should get a pair. I don't have a Paris
Speaker 1: I'm not. That's a little bit too elite. Is that?
Speaker 1: Who knows? I don't know. I don't know if I
Speaker 1: want to pay for them. I'm too ching. No worries
Speaker 1: at all. So as we are ending the show, because
Speaker 1: we've been on here talking the good talk and providing
Speaker 1: a lot of analysis, what's next for Lisa Booth? I
Speaker 1: know you work in Fox News Channel. That's great. I
Speaker 1: know you're gonna be there for a while. But what's
Speaker 1: what's next for Lisa Booths? Yeah? I love TV UM
Speaker 1: It's you know, I really just enjoy it. I love
Speaker 1: the ability because I used to work in politics, and
Speaker 1: I love being on the outside and really being able
Speaker 1: to you know, because when you're speaking for someone you're
Speaker 1: not you know, you're obviously your interests or to represent
Speaker 1: them and make sure that they're fully represented in the
Speaker 1: things that you say and you do. And I love
Speaker 1: being on the outside of politics and being able to
Speaker 1: speak for myself and just being able to be a
Speaker 1: pent like this is what I believe, this is the
Speaker 1: way I see it. So I love that. So I'm
Speaker 1: very thankful to be in this position. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: I'm working on trying to get a podcast going. I'd
Speaker 1: love to people have that outlet as well, and then
Speaker 1: also working on a couple other things I can can't
Speaker 1: talk about yet, but I will let everyone know about
Speaker 1: as soon as I can. Yeah, just working on some
Speaker 1: more ways to really be out there because I just
Speaker 1: honestly it makes me sad because I just think there's
Speaker 1: so much wrong in the country right now, and you know,
Speaker 1: COVID's really just underscored a lot of those things with
Speaker 1: the way that like the people in charge just really
Speaker 1: couldn't care less about the people are representing, Like all
Speaker 1: these people who have not heard one person and advocate
Speaker 1: for shutdowns who would actually have income be impacted by them. Right,
Speaker 1: So like these people they don't care. It's true, they
Speaker 1: don't care, and like it really yeah, like it makes
Speaker 1: me mad. So there's a lot of things that I
Speaker 1: think are wrong, and so you know, I'm doing the
Speaker 1: best I can from what I'm able to do, to
Speaker 1: to try to at least talk about them and to
Speaker 1: get conversations going, and to hopefully advocate for people who
Speaker 1: made me feel like, you know, if they don't have
Speaker 1: the opportunity to at least have, you know, a public
Speaker 1: platform to talk about some of these things. So that's
Speaker 1: kind of where I am right now. Uh, advocate the
Speaker 1: run of office, no, because I just think Congress is
Speaker 1: so broken. I think politics are so broken. Like I
Speaker 1: worked on Capitol Hill for a number of years, and
Speaker 1: I worked for some really good people like Sandy Adams
Speaker 1: who's no longer there, and you know, Mark Meadows who's
Speaker 1: no longer there. So I was blessed to work for
Speaker 1: some really awesome people. But it's just broken. And I
Speaker 1: think people be there, you know, they're there for too
Speaker 1: long and they lose touch with the people they are representing.
Speaker 1: So I just I don't think. I think it would
Speaker 1: frustrate me. And I think you can get more done
Speaker 1: on the outside, to be honest, And I really think
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a movement over the next two years
Speaker 1: of people just really seeing how broken everything is that
Speaker 1: the media. You know, a lot of people in the
Speaker 1: media don't represent them and don't really care about them
Speaker 1: and don't care what they have to say, and don't
Speaker 1: have an interest in getting to know them or getting
Speaker 1: to know their concerns. You're going to have like Twitter
Speaker 1: and Facebook and Google consolidate even more power under a
Speaker 1: Biden administration. You're gonna have leaders who acted like they
Speaker 1: cared about Trump supporters and Trump who have turned their
Speaker 1: backs on him, you know, who turned their backs on
Speaker 1: the supporters. You're gonna have a lot of people, I
Speaker 1: believe that really just feel like they're not represented. So
Speaker 1: I'm going to do my best to try to understand
Speaker 1: their needs and communicate that and the positions that I have,
Speaker 1: you know, and try to listen and you know, not
Speaker 1: become one of those people that are so out of
Speaker 1: touch with like what's actually going on in the country. Right. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: you're correct, and I I appreciate that I think from
Speaker 1: my perspective, especially being in very similar positions as you.
Speaker 1: You're my colleague over at Fox. I'm thankful that I
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to do the same because we have.
Speaker 1: Although we we we we have very similar ideology. In
Speaker 1: a way, we have some different perspectives based on the
Speaker 1: way we grew up and I grew up in a
Speaker 1: very different way, one in which typically doesn't lead a
Speaker 1: person to be conservative. But certainly growing up poor and
Speaker 1: having a mom addicted to drugs, I think changes your
Speaker 1: perspective in life. And I also think for me personally,
Speaker 1: I agree with something you said earlier in the podcast
Speaker 1: when you talked about giving people a hand up, especially
Speaker 1: those who who grew up in these very marginalized environments.
Speaker 1: But I think with God, all things are possible. You
Speaker 1: can supersede anyone who grew up with the highest level
Speaker 1: degrees and the best family partnership with God will change
Speaker 1: all that. And I talked about that in my last
Speaker 1: podcast with Dr Bill Winson. I hope everyone and listen
Speaker 1: to that. But I want to certainly thank you Jonathan.
Speaker 1: Just sorry, sorry, sorry, I know we were trying. And
Speaker 1: I also just want to say I have so much
Speaker 1: respect for you and like your story and what you've
Speaker 1: done because like, admittedly, look I was born, I haven't
Speaker 1: had those struggles, right, and so like I've had a
Speaker 1: lot of opportunities like other people have in life, and
Speaker 1: so I just like I have so much like you
Speaker 1: just work so hard and you know, and that's why
Speaker 1: you've had the success you have is just sheer determination
Speaker 1: and hard work. So I just like I have a
Speaker 1: lot of respect for you as a good friend and
Speaker 1: a colleague for just how hard you work and like
Speaker 1: charting your own course in life, that's very like, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: So you know, much respect to you, my friend. Thank
Speaker 1: you someone I really really, really really do appreciate you
Speaker 1: saying that. Not never I always say because people would
Speaker 1: call me exceptional, and I always reject that label because
Speaker 1: I think we're all exceptional all of the If you're
Speaker 1: not exceptional, you certainly can be. And you you mentioned
Speaker 1: that where all God's children, we all have potential. We
Speaker 1: all have this hidden ability. You have to call the
Speaker 1: potential and it's up to you to pull it out.
Speaker 1: It's up to you to do the work is up
Speaker 1: to you. So for for those who who talk about
Speaker 1: the government, and institutional racism, which I do. I know
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't think it exists. I do
Speaker 1: believe in institutional racism, and I think ninety four crime
Speaker 1: bill pushed by Joe Biden is institutionally racist. That's what
Speaker 1: I believe. But I think, in spite of all of
Speaker 1: those odds, me personally, a partnership with God changes the
Speaker 1: dynamic completely and totally and will supersede whatever is going
Speaker 1: on in this natural world. And that's that's personally how
Speaker 1: I feel. And I want to thank you so much
Speaker 1: for those warm, warm compliments, and I totally, I will
Speaker 1: heartily agree with your statement about a relationship with God
Speaker 1: and also just family's important, God's important, friends are important,
Speaker 1: and those are the things that bring the most fulfillment
Speaker 1: in life. And you know the things that I think
Speaker 1: if we work our hardest to get settled, the rest
Speaker 1: comes with it, you know, I agree with. And that's
Speaker 1: that's the blessing of being able to do this work,
Speaker 1: to have people see an example of something different. Whereas
Speaker 1: society says if you grew up in this particular way,
Speaker 1: you should end up like this, when God is saying
Speaker 1: your path has already made just walk down and don't
Speaker 1: fear so I appreciate that. Lisa, thank you so much,
Speaker 1: my friend, my friend, thank you, thank you. In Miami
Speaker 1: it was This is going to be a great one.
Speaker 1: Thank you. You're gonna have to show me around my friends,
Speaker 1: you know I will. We're gonna go to all the
Speaker 1: foolest places wherever we can. Full Loble Dennis. Let's go
Speaker 1: be free. It'll be awesome, right, absolutely unlike New York.
Speaker 1: So until then, we'll talk soon and certainly everyone follow
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