1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Up next, Out Loud with Joanno called part of the 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Beginning with New Yorkers flee their citious politicians use the 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: coronavirus to seize power and attack religion. Meanwhile, our country 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: continues to endure political chaos in the aftermath of the election. 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: This is Outlied with Gianno calling Welcome back to Ally 6 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: with Gianno calledwell, I have a great show for you today. 7 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: My guest today is my friend, my colleague, and someone 8 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: you may know very well. Her name is Lisa Booth. 9 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: She's a prominent journalist, political analysts, and commentator. Lisa is 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: currently a Fox News contributor and senior Fellow for the 11 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: Independent Woman's Voice, an organization that fights for women by 12 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: expanding support for policy solutions that aren't just well intentioned, 13 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: but actually enhance people's freedom, opportunities, and well being. Lisa 14 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: also founded High New Strategies, a boutique political communications and 15 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: PR firms, and previously served as this President. Before then, 16 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: she spent years working on Capitol Hill and for political campaigns. 17 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: Let's go, Lisa Booth, thank you for joining Out Loud 18 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: with Giano called Well, it's such a pleasure to have 19 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: a friend, a colleague, someone who I call on the 20 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: phone and say, hey, what do you think about this? 21 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: It's such a pleasure and honor to be on with you. 22 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 1: How are you doing today? Hey, my friend, it's great 23 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: to be hon with you too. Also in Italy for 24 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: those listening, it did take me about fifteen minutes to 25 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: get everything situated. You mean, don't try to lord account 26 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: to millennial. I know I might be trying to figure 27 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: it out. I don't know yet. I feel like some 28 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: of your older guests might have been able to figure 29 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: it out earlier. So I'm a little, uh, I'm a 30 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: little embarrassed by that. You know, we have this technology 31 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: and then we'll we'll find out if you're a millennial. 32 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: We want to see there, I'll share, I'll share. Okay 33 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: for lawn full launch Asparency love it now now that 34 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: we've got that out of the way right now now 35 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: now they were fully on. So I want to start 36 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: with the coronavirus. And I know you've been posting a 37 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: lot about this on Twitter, and everybody should be following 38 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: on Twitter because you have a pretty dynamic Twitter and 39 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: you tweet at least every five seconds, so it's always 40 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: twenty times a day. Lisa bof is not so. I 41 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,839 Speaker 1: mean a lot of people are. So, We're a lot 42 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: in the same post. Millions of Americans just celebrated Thanksgiving 43 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: last week, and they did it without their families and 44 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: a lot of cases because of COVID nineteen. Some cities 45 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: and states are reimposing certain lockdown measures as the cases 46 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 1: have increased, Which brings me to something you recently tweeted. 47 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: Since we're talking about your Twitter, and it really caught 48 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: my eye. You wrote, as much as this year has sucked, 49 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: it has forced a rep prioritization of the things that 50 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: actually matter in life. And then you say, before I 51 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 1: got so caught up in a busy day to day, 52 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: I was focused on things that aren't actually fulfilling. That 53 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: really struck me. Can you elaborate on what you met 54 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: and they into which you were thinking of politics? Well, 55 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: hopefully I spilled everything correctly, but everything correct No, I mean, so, 56 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: here's the thing I think with COVID, and you probably 57 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure you feel similarly. So, I mean, look in 58 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: our day to day lives, especially when you're living in 59 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: cities like New York, it's it's go, go, go, right, 60 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: like you're you're going into the office, you're meeting with friends, 61 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: you're going to a happy hour, you're doing this, you're 62 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: doing that, You're trying to get this thing going, and 63 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: you're just so busy. And I think a lot of 64 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: the times when you're that busy, you actually don't really 65 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: have time for sort of like stillness and self reflection 66 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: and sort of figuring out what do you actually want 67 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: for your life? Are you at the place in your 68 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: life that you truly want to be? And with COVID 69 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: it's forced stillness in a way. Early for me, I 70 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: haven't really had and quite some times I've always been go, go, go, busy, busy, 71 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: busy and not really taking a moment to really be 72 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: stopping and looking at my life. And I think with 73 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: the coronavirus, I mean I went home to my parents 74 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: house for like three months, which I thought I was 75 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: escaping shutdowns by leaving New York and then Virginia also 76 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: shut down, so jokes on me, but it was nice 77 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: to spend that time at home. And it was also 78 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: just at times like really sort of sit back and 79 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: kind of like taken my life and sort of figure 80 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: out like what do I really want and have I 81 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: been doing things right? And have I been making the 82 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: right decisions, and I think that's healthy and you know, 83 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: and it actually I think it's led to some productive 84 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: things and some changes that I've been making that I 85 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: think her for the better that maybe would have happened 86 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: if I hadn't have had that time for stillness as 87 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: it brought you closer to God, it actually has, and 88 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: it's probably closer to my family as well, particularly my parents. 89 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm thirty five, so like the last 90 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: time I've spent that much time at home, like it 91 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: was probably before college, right, like when you're in high school. 92 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: So just sort of being able to spend that time 93 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: at home, spending that time and also just kind of 94 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: made me realize to like, I mean, this is probably 95 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: getting really real. But like even just wanting a family, right, 96 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: like wanting to get married, wanting these things that like 97 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: I didn't necessarily give as much time and thought to 98 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: pre COVID, you know, because you're just so busy, like 99 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: living your day to day and just kind of realizing 100 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: like and like, look, work is important, and like we're 101 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: both strivers, were both people who really want success and 102 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: want to work hard to achieve our goals, and those 103 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: are things I still want for my life. But I 104 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: think I put so much emphasis on the workfront and 105 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: what I wanted from that and kind of let my 106 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: personal life and let the things that actually bring more 107 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: fulfillment sort of like subside and not paid as much 108 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: attention to that. And I like that's at least one 109 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: of the big things that I've kind of recognized for myself. 110 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: So so not a lack of desire. I still really 111 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: want to be successful, and certaly really want you are successful. 112 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: Let's thank you. Success is a day to day I 113 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: think your point is so salient, especially when it comes 114 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: to me. So I've been thinking about marriage and family 115 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: a lot. And I'm two years younger than you know. 116 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: I'm thirty three, but i'll be thirty four December seven. Yeah, 117 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: I know, I know, but still in on. I don't 118 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: want to be like an old dad. And I have 119 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: a friend who got married maybe a couple of years ago, 120 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: and he will be like kind of an older guy 121 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: that's like fifty years old picking up his kids from 122 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: pre k and I was like, I don't want to 123 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: have that from my life. I wanna be somewhat young. 124 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: So I get what you're saying and I think there's 125 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: millions of Americans that are thinking the same thing. There's 126 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people that are getting married during COVID, 127 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: so that that's an interesting perspective that I think a 128 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: lot of people can agree with. And speaking of New York, 129 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: since you mentioned that, and I know you know you've 130 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: been living there for quite a while, the Supreme Court 131 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: just temporarily barred New York strict restrictions on a number 132 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: of people who can attend religious services and houses of 133 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: worships worship. Brother Governor Andrew Como has imposed no capacity 134 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: restrictions on certain businesses such as liquor stores and bis 135 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: repair shops and a lot of other things. But churches 136 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: and synagogues are somehow you know, you gotta you gotta 137 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: watch watch those folks going into these religious ceremonies. We 138 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: don't know what may happen with the COVID, but keep 139 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: the liquor stores open. We're good with that. What do 140 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: you think of that, Well, it's tyranny. It's tyranny because 141 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: you look at the unequal application of the First Amendments, 142 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: like we look at the fact that you've got people 143 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: like build the Blasio. No problem with thousands of people 144 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: going out in the streets to riot, the you know, 145 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,119 Speaker 1: set cop cars on fire to try to cause harm 146 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: to the city. It's really actually gonna hurt the people 147 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: they purport to care about. So the no problem with that, 148 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: That's totally cool, Like go out in the masses, no masks, 149 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: be around people, or go out and celebrate after the election, 150 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: that's totally well. But if you want but if but 151 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: if you want to go worship, if you want to 152 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: go practice your religion, if you want to practice that 153 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: element of the First Amendment, no dice, that's not welcome 154 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: in the city of New York. And so it just 155 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: goes to show what hypocrites these people are we're seeing 156 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: this time. I mean, it's it's it's like it's just 157 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: so much right, you look at people like Nancy Pelosi 158 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: going to get her hair done when other people can't 159 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: and businesses can't be open and salons can't be open, 160 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: and people can't be earning a living. Same thing with 161 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: Lorie Lightfoot going out in the middle of the pandemic done. 162 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: She did that getting her hair and Johnah, she said, 163 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: because she's a public face. Like you know, right, like 164 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: there's how many how many people are like running successful 165 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 1: businesses or or whatever, like doing their jobs and happen 166 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: to be on zoo calls, also happening to care about 167 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: their appearance. Right, But somehow Lorie Lightfoot is better than them, 168 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: is entitled to that when the rest of our citizens aren't, 169 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: When people at barber shops or salons are struggling to survive, 170 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: but like, no, you know it doesn't matter for you, 171 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: but you could open for me to go get my 172 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: hair done. But if you want to try to earn 173 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: a living and put food on the table of the 174 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: you know the table if you're a family, No, right, 175 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: so like it's and then or even look at the 176 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: mayor of Denver, right tweeting you got to stay home, 177 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: do zoom calls online for Thanksgiving, don't spend time with 178 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: your family, don't travel And then he goes on and 179 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: gets on a flight. These people don't believe any of 180 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,119 Speaker 1: the things that they're pushing. They don't believe their own guidelines. 181 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom. People look at yeah, going out to French 182 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: laundry with a bunch of people indoor dining in the 183 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 1: Meanwhile in l A they're shutting down outdoor dining and 184 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: sing Yeah, it's all garbage. They don't even believe the 185 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: science and their own guidelines. Yeah, yeah, you're correct about that. 186 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you, being a person who's lived in 187 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: l A since seventeen two months in to the l 188 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: A shutdown, I just couldn't do it anymore. And I decided. 189 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: It was a Wednesday night at eleven PM, and I'm 190 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: gonna be honest for the audience. I was watching Bad 191 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: Boys three and I said it would be interesting to 192 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: live in Miami. And that was a Wednesday. By that 193 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: following Wednesday, I was on a plane to Miami looking 194 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: for places. About that next Friday, I was actually moving 195 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: in to the Intercontinental Miami while I was waiting to 196 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: get approved for the place that I'm in now. And 197 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: I know that you have talked about on social media. 198 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: You and I have talked about it personally about how 199 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: upset you are about the tyranny that's going on in 200 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: New York and it may bring about a change in 201 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: terms of where you're living. Is that right? Yeah? I mean, 202 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: I'm actually we're going to be neighbors because I so. 203 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: During the pandemic, like early on, I spent two weeks 204 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: in Florida and it was free, you know. And then 205 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: I'm so I was literally free, like the trip was free. No, no, god, 206 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: it wish it was open. It was open. But yeah, yeah, 207 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: that Spirit Airlines. But okay, I have flown Spirit, but 208 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: I have to my person last time. It's till it's 209 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: treat whatever. I'm all about saving a book. So no, 210 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: it was just it was freedom, right, So like it 211 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: just was a completely different mentality of approaching the coronavirus 212 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: and what I had been experiencing in Virginia when I 213 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: was staying in my parents, and then also when I 214 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: went back to New York and what I've been experiencing 215 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: here for the past few months. It's just a completely 216 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: different mentality. And so I thought to myself, I am 217 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: tired of living in a place like New York City 218 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: where it's tyranny right, where there's an unequal application of 219 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: the regulations and an equal application of the rules, and 220 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: also a lot of times things that scientifically aren't even sound. 221 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: And then also what I mentioned before was sort of 222 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: like the stillness aspect a city like New York. It's go, 223 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: go go, And so when you don't have those things, 224 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: like you don't have all the restaurants. You don't have 225 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: the plays, you don't have the you know, going out 226 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: at night, you don't have all these things that keep 227 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: you busy. You sort of stop and take in the 228 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: city and you're like, this city sucks, right, It's gross. 229 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: It smells like p there's trash everywhere. There's freaking giant 230 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: racks that rats that are like taking over the city 231 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: right now. You've got people, you know, going around shooting 232 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: up drugs, walking around naked, got people that want to 233 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: do harm to the city with with I am going 234 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: up with the riots that we've seen as well, breaking 235 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: in stores, looting, and you're just like, why am I here? 236 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: And you pay so much money for rent? Taxes are 237 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: enormous and you're not getting anything from it. So I said, 238 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: I'm done with this. I'm moving to a place where 239 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: there's freedom and a place that has a mentality that's 240 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: closer to the one that I believe, which is, you know, 241 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: freedom and you know sort of anti thiss tyrannical government 242 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: that we're seeing right now, and so many cities like 243 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: New York. So I am escaping and I am so excited, 244 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: and I am just ready to get out of here 245 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: to be honest, Yeah, and I look forward to you 246 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: being here. I'm looking for a good neighbors. I'm excited 247 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: we're gonna be able to hang out. So this is 248 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: gonna be awesome. America is deeply polarized and politically divided, 249 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: and I think some would rightly argue that the country 250 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: has never been more divided. Is it possible to unify 251 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: and bridge this gap? Do you think that's possible? And 252 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: I know that's a tough question. Do you think it's possible? Well, 253 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: I think we've probably actually always been, uh, you know, 254 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: divided to some degree, right, So, I mean we used 255 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: to have like way back in the day, like they 256 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: beat each other up like that. I think it was, 257 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: like you know, I mean, so I think there's always 258 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: been like divide in the country. I think a lot 259 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: of it is more focused and more on the forefront 260 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: because of social media, right, so that brings more attention 261 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: to it, and we sort of see it in real 262 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: time because you sort of like see people fighting with 263 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: each other on Twitter, Whereas maybe that stuff was sort 264 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: of behind the scenes before social media bring into the forefront. 265 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: So I think it's always kind of in like that. 266 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: I do have a concern that there are less things 267 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: that unite us. And you know, when you look at 268 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: even like standing for the flag is now political and 269 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: and sort of everything has kind of become political, which 270 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 1: has created this toxic environment, which I think has sort 271 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: of led to maybe further division in the sense of 272 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: if you can't have anything that isn't political goal whereas 273 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: you look at like the NFL is political, NBA's political 274 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: corporations are now taking political stances. Every award show you 275 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: watch is political, so like every commercials are political now, 276 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: so like literally everything is political, and so that creates 277 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: a lot of toxicity. So I think the way to 278 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: actually create more unification, or at least to allow people 279 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: to kind of like take a breathe, breather and take 280 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: a break from it is I don't think any of 281 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: these companies should be taking political stances. I don't think 282 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: you've got Twitter that the Twitter is entirely political now, 283 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: and I think that's the that's the source of the 284 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: poison in the country from my perspective. To be honest, 285 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: I completely agree, Lisa, But let's pick that back up 286 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: when we come back from the break. Stay with us. 287 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: You know what it seems to me, especially with mainstream media, 288 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:52,359 Speaker 1: and I think we can throw in Twitter, Facebook, Instagram 289 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: is mainstream media now because everyone uses it. And what 290 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: we saw in this past election especially, is a social 291 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: media company is looking to calue with the Democrats to 292 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: ensure that there's a Biden win and that that was 293 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: their aim. That was their goal, and they've been working 294 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: this goal and aim four years now. I think we 295 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: saw after the election that people was reported that folks 296 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: at Google was saying that they should have done more 297 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: to try to see that Donald Trump would lose the election. 298 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: And it's it seems like, I think for a lot 299 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,239 Speaker 1: of Americans, when we're in a divided society like this, conservatives, 300 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: I think it felt under attack for many many years 301 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: and it just hadn't been necessarily seen. That's why Fox 302 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: News was such a popular network because it was the 303 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: only one that wasn't a part of the mainstream crowd. 304 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: But conservatives head at least a corner to go into 305 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: to hear this free thought things that they agree with 306 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: and also see a challenge because you know, of course 307 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: on Fox Democrats and Republicans going and debate the issues. 308 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: So now to me, it seems like the country, I 309 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: don't know how we're gonna unify beyond this moment because 310 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: Democrats have helped divide the country. May stream media has 311 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: helped divide the country, and they can't go out and say, hey, 312 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: not that the election is semi over, although the election 313 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: results aren't official just yet. They can't go around and say, hey, 314 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: you know, we need to come together. No, you've been 315 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: a part of the poison pill, as you just stated, Lisa, 316 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: and you know what we need to do is talk 317 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: some truth and facts, and I'm not hearing a lot 318 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: of truth coming from the mainstream media. They've been a 319 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: part of this toxic culture. Well yeah, And it's hilarious 320 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: because you've got all these people who basically for the 321 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: entirety of the Trump administration saying that everyone supports Trump 322 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: is racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, which none of these things 323 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: are true, but labeling Trump supporters is all these all 324 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: these like horrific terms, right, and then now they're like, oh, 325 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: we need to unify, and you're like, screw you, Like 326 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to unify you. You've literally called us 327 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: all these names. I will I don't. I don't want 328 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: to unify you. In fact, what I want to do 329 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: is to go out in two and defeat you and 330 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: then go out in defeat you again because your policies 331 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: are toxic and you're part of the problem. And so no, 332 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,239 Speaker 1: I don't want to unite with you, Like I think 333 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: that's ridiculous to even ask that, and it showed it's 334 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: like so arrogant. And if you look at too, like 335 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: why these social media companies worked so hard to defeat 336 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, The reason is he was so successful in 337 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: utilizing them. Remember that one of the Facebook exects, I 338 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: can't remember his name off the top of my head, 339 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: but he came out and said that basically the Trump 340 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: campaign had used face like the campaigns that they the 341 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: campaigns that they had run were better than any other 342 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: campaign he's ever seen, and we're wildly successful in helping 343 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: him win the White House. And so that's why after 344 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: that moment after lunch, and we've seen this turnabout, particularly 345 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: from the left, of trying to get Twitter to shut 346 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: down the Trump campaign, trying to push for this censorship 347 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: is to stop him from utilizing those tools successfully, and 348 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,959 Speaker 1: they were able to do that in a great regard 349 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: because as you mentioned, you know, Twitter literally suppressing even 350 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: the share rain of the Hunter Biden story and stopping 351 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: that and then shutting down conservatives, taking them off Twitter, 352 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: suspending those accounts. And that's really we're actually in a really, 353 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: really scary places of society because if you look at 354 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: the fact that so we've had people on the left 355 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: for years now the humanized Trump supporters literally just to 356 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: human It's the same thing that democrats do on abortion 357 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: when they call unborn babies clumps of selves. Right, if 358 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: you dehumanize something, if you make it seem less than, 359 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: then bad things happen. Right, You're opening the door for 360 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: the kind of violence we saw against Trump supporters during 361 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: the march. We saw in Washington, d C. After the election, 362 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: it got violent at night with Antifa and Black Lives Matter. 363 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: It opens the door for Democrats trying to put Trump 364 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: supporters on lists, and all of that continues to go 365 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 1: down some really dangerous past that we we should not 366 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: be going down as a country, particularly when you go 367 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: back and you know, look at things historically. So it's 368 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: we're we're in a bad place right now. And you 369 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: know what's interesting to me that you mentioned the list. 370 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: When I see folks on the left, what they do 371 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: not just Trump supporters, but just conservatives in general, the 372 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: way they attack, the things that they say on mainstream media, 373 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: the MSNBC s and the CNNs of the world, the 374 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: things that they say, and how it's just accepted and 375 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: it's embraced. And I'm talking about some of these very 376 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: negative basket of deplorables that the no Hillary Clinton said that. 377 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: But it's just as oh, if you're a Trump supporter, 378 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: if you vote for conservatives in general, you're a racist, 379 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: point blank period. And of course, me growing up on 380 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: the South Side of Chicago, that's what I was taught 381 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: from from birth. Basically, if the person is a Republican, 382 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter the content of their character, any of 383 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: those things, then they're legitimately a racist. That was what 384 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: I was taught, and it took years before I learned 385 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: the real truth. But the interesting part is they continue 386 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: to push this, Oh, we're about unity, we're about love, 387 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: we're not about discrimination. But yet and still the folks 388 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: who are supposedly not about discrimination are the ones that 389 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: discriminate the most. It's insane, It's completely insane, and I 390 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: just to understand, how do how do they even go 391 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: out with these mantras in their party. It doesn't make 392 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: any sense to me. You guys are none of the 393 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: things that you say that you are. You're not about 394 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: love and unity as you say you are, because you 395 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: will say that and then you'll say something evil and 396 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: sinister in the next moment. So what's the point. Well, 397 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: and their policies are set that somehow we're all inherently 398 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: born different, that we're all inherently born in different places 399 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: in life. And I think the way conservatives view the 400 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: world is we're all the same, right, like we're not 401 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: we were all we're all born like we're all God's children. 402 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: Is the way that like I was taught to view life, right, like, 403 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: we're all just human beings. And I think democrats have 404 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: a different viewpoint. And when you look at everything through 405 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: you know, racial lens, through uh you know, lens of sex, 406 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: through all these different lens, of course, that's going to 407 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: lead to division because you're seeing the world differently, you're 408 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,719 Speaker 1: seeing people in different lights versus just seeing everyone as 409 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: human beings. Right, So, like, yeah, I agree with you. 410 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: I think their policies and the way they view the 411 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: world is inherently discriminatory and it's wrong personally, Like I 412 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: I think we should work on policies that just up 413 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: uplift all Americans, right Like, regardless of race, regardless of sex, 414 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: We're all just human beings. We're all at the same level, 415 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: the same playing level. And I think you know, obviously 416 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: there are things that you know, really make it hard 417 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: for people to compete in life when you look at 418 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: especially income, right Like, so certainly someone regardless of race, 419 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: if you're born into a poorer neighborhood, you have less 420 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: advantages of someone born into a higher income level. So 421 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: I certainly believe in giving people hand up in life 422 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: who need it, particularly from like a socio economic stance. 423 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: But you're right, like, I think a lot of the 424 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: way that the left us of the world leads to 425 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: a lot of division. I think Trump was really able 426 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: to capture that and to see that in the sense 427 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: it like, I don't know, I feel like where we 428 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: are right now in society, I really feel like the 429 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: people in charge and the people that have the most power, 430 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: I've never been more out of touch with the rest 431 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: of America. Like, I don't know if you feel the 432 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: same way. And COVID and and you know, John of 433 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: COVID's made it so much worse because we've seen this 434 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: like massive transfer of wealth and everyone on who's rich 435 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: has gotten richer, and then people that are like middle 436 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: class have suffered more because if you have a small business, 437 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: a lot of those businesses are gone, the people who 438 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: work for them no longer have jobs. And especially like 439 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: that generational wealth in the sense of if you have 440 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: a family run business and it's under that means like 441 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: everything your parents work forced gone, everything your grandparents worked 442 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,719 Speaker 1: worth gone, and what you're going to leave to your 443 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: kids is gone. Right, And and then all the policies 444 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,479 Speaker 1: that we're seeing from the left are making it worse 445 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: because when you continue to shut things down, when you 446 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: continue to lock things down, it's the middle class and 447 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: it's the hard working Americans that are suffering, and all 448 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: your elite rich friends on the left are getting richer. 449 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: And it's really messed up, and we're going to be 450 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: dealing with the consequences of this for a long time 451 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: to come. Yeah, correct about that now. I'll tell you 452 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: I was reading some reporting that said that over four 453 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,959 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand businesses have fouled bankortcyasons to started 454 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: the pandemic. So I'm imagining that number is growing tremendolee 455 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: since then, and that brings me to my next topic, 456 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: which is about the politics of it all. How is 457 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: the House gonna look. We gain a lot of House 458 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: seats this past election, and we're hopefully gonna be able 459 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: to win these runoffs in Georgia, which are extraordinarily important, 460 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: and encourage everyone who's under the sound of my voice, 461 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: whether you be conservative or not, you, if you live 462 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: in Georgia, vote for the Republican And I'm gonna tell 463 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: you why. You should want to see divided government. You 464 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: should wanna make government compromise and work together for the 465 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: good of all. You should want to see that. And 466 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: I think that's personally what's good, whether it be Trump's 467 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: in office or as the Joe Biden presidency. Again, the 468 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: election results aren't officially at this time, so whoever's in 469 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: the presidential seat at that point, you should want to 470 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: see all sides work together for the good of all Americans, 471 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: not just one party rule. And that the I think 472 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, that's the best outcome 473 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: for things to get done and force those who we 474 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,479 Speaker 1: are paying to go work for us, not to just 475 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: sit around on and not do anything but actually work 476 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: for the American people. So what do you think the 477 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: outcome may look like. Who do you think would be 478 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: the frontrunner for for the presidency. Well, I hope for 479 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: purposes of the January five runoffs. You're totally right. Republicans 480 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: have to win. Anyone who is listening in Georgia, you 481 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: have to get out, you have to vote, get your 482 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: family because Republicans need a check if Joe Biden is 483 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: in the White House, if Democrats have the House, which 484 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: they're going to have, you need a check in the Senate. 485 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: And the difference that that's going to make is being 486 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: able to prevent people like Bernie Sanders potentially serving in 487 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: the cabinet. You're gonna get more moderate cabinet positions versus 488 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: some of these crazy progressives that we're saying. You're going 489 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: to get more moderate judges versus liberal judges, and you're 490 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: going to prevent Democrats. If Democrats have a majority in 491 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: the Senate, they already talked about potentially blowing up the filmbuster. 492 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: If they do that, they can create they can create 493 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: a you know, two extra Senate seats with Washington, D C. 494 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: And Puerto Rico. They can do things like the Green 495 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: New Deal. All bets are off at that point. So 496 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: that's why Republicans need to have a Senate in two. 497 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 1: I think you're going to see an uprising because, as 498 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: we've been discussing, the people that are in charge in 499 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: this country are so wildly out of touch with actual Americans. 500 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: And the funny thing is the Left always tries to 501 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: pretend like they're the party of the working classes, which 502 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: now is Republicans, but their policies and their shutdowns have 503 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: probably done more to hurt the working class than maybe 504 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: any other policies in history. They have destroyed the middle 505 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: class right now during COVID. So I think what we're 506 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: gonna see in two is similar to what we saw 507 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: in twenty ten with the Tea Party, similar to what 508 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 1: we saw a President Trump happened to that populism in 509 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: and again of just this feeling that the people in 510 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: charge do not represent us. Because what you're going to 511 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: have is, if it's Joe Biden in the White House, 512 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: someone who's been there forty seven years, right, what does 513 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: he know about real America after being in the swamp 514 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: for forty seven years. You're gonna have Nancy Pelosi, who's 515 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: been in office for decades, and regardless of it's Mitch McConnell, 516 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: which exchumber, you're gonna have someone there who's been in 517 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: office for decades. So you're gonna have everyone who's in 518 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: charge having been in public office for so long that 519 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's impossible to stay in touch 520 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: with the average American when you've been in Washington, d c. 521 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: And tainted by government which is inherently corrup for that long. 522 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: And like credit to Mims McConnell for getting conservative judges in, 523 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: but still he's been there for so long. Okay, So 524 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have a lot of people just 525 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: feeling like they're not represented. And then you're going to 526 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: have these corporations that have now gotten and consolidated so 527 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: much more wealth because of COVID, they're going to have, 528 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, the economy is going to be hard hit 529 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: because all of these jobs that employ so many Americans, 530 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: all these small businesses are going to you know, probably 531 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: not have survived COVID. And then you're also going to 532 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: have the fear from COVID having subsided with the coronavirus vaccine. 533 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: So we're going to be left with the dust settling 534 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: and a full picture of the carnage from coronavirus, which 535 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: is going to be essentially, you know, largely a lot 536 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: of economic calamity as well as children falling further behind 537 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: in schools. And I think there's just gonna be this 538 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: disenfranchisement and this anger and this you know, voters feeling 539 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: really disaffected and not represented, and they're going to turn 540 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: out in mass and I think we're gonna see a 541 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: lot of primaries, uh, and we're gonna see Republicans taking 542 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: back the House. I really do think so. Yeah, I 543 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: agree with that assessment fully, and I think there's gonna 544 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: be some governorships that go from Democrat to Republican hands, 545 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: and certainly some some local races that are going to 546 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: do the same thing. I think people and even in 547 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: cases where Republicans may have been too strict and some 548 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: of these local areas, if they went the way of 549 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: the Democrats, I can see them being voted out as well. 550 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, it's about we the people, 551 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 1: not we the political party. And I think at the 552 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: end of the day, for a lot of Americans, they're 553 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: just piste off. They want to live their life like 554 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: they were living in before we can do so safely. 555 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: And what is it gonna do? The shutdown a bar 556 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: or restaurant at nine or ten o'clock. Does that stop COVID? 557 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I mean, do you are you 558 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: aware of any science? I could be wrong, So that's 559 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: why I'd like to ask, are you aware of any science? 560 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: Say COVID stops is on break or maybe he takes 561 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: off of the night or what. I guess that's like 562 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: the COVID witching hour or something. But yeah, like that's 563 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: when it comes it out more. But you know this say, 564 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: is what I really get frustrated with with the coronavirus 565 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: coverage is you can desire to put the coronavirus in 566 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: context and to provide perspective while still taking it seriously 567 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: and not wanting anyone you love to get it because 568 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: you still see I mean, the problem what we've seen 569 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: from the media and really from the start and what 570 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: they did. It was almost the entirety of the coverage 571 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: had like the same people saying the same things on 572 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: about the coronavirus, and there was a lot of dissenters 573 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: and a lot of people out there, like distinguished people 574 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: like Dr E. Needs of Stanford. He was like one 575 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: of the you know, world renown epidemiologists. He's debunked more 576 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: bad research than like most people. I think he's like 577 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: one of the cited epidemiologists in the country. You had 578 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: people like Dr Scott Atlas out there. These are distinguished, 579 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: intelligent people that were raising different points. And like what 580 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: Dr Needs was saying, I believe back in March, or 581 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: maybe it was even yeah, I think it was back 582 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: in March. And what he was talking about is that 583 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: from his perspective and looking at the data, that the 584 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: death rate was actually significantly lower than what was being 585 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: talked about at the time because we didn't really have 586 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: a great data set to look at to look at 587 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: both infectivity rates and death rates. And he was right, 588 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: and nobody listened to him. And then further than that, 589 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: not only did people listen not listen to him, but 590 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: they condemned him. He was called names, he was ridiculed, 591 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: and you actually look at the death rate and where 592 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: we are today, he was right, and it's probably even 593 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: lower than we actually think because the CDC has already 594 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: said that we're missing cases by like tenfold because of 595 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: how many asymptomatic and mild cases there are, And what 596 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: that would mean is that the death rate is actually 597 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: lower than what we're looking at. Even now that's not 598 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: saying it's not serious. I mean, of course you can 599 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: look at the data and look at the fact that 600 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: you know, if you're seventy and older, if you have 601 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: underlying conditions, of course it's scary to get it and 602 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: you don't want to get it, and so we have 603 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: to protect those people. So you can look at all 604 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: that context and you know, look at it and still 605 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: take it seriously while providing context and perspective, but that 606 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: that context and perspective has really been lacking and the 607 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: way it's been covered. Yeah, but let's pick that up 608 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: when we come back after the break. I just think 609 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: that if there is Joe Biden as president and I 610 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: and I want to be clear for people on one 611 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: point here beyond just the COVID, because I know people say, like, hey, Giano, 612 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: the the election is really over. Trump is going to lose. 613 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: Joe Biden got ten million more votes and all this 614 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: other stuff and he's losing lawsuits, et cetera. Here's the 615 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: Here's the point that I want to draw the people 616 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: President Trump has not conceded. As of the recording of 617 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: this podcast, President Trump still has ongoing lawsuits. And I 618 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: believe that you have to respect the process. The electors 619 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: have to go in and elect whoever, whoever the president 620 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: is going to be, and that's still an ongoing process. 621 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: So with respect to the fact that there's a lot 622 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: going on in this space right now, it is not 623 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: up to me to decide who the president is. Is 624 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: not up to me or the mainstream needed to decide 625 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: or or say who's president or not not. Rather for 626 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: there to be the lawsuits, you know, have their way 627 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: and we see what happens there before we start saying, Okay, 628 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: President Trump is absolutely out office and he's done. I'd 629 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: rather let the process play out before we make any declarations. 630 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: So with that being said, and you know, moving beyond COVID, 631 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: now that we kind of have an idea of at 632 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: least what we predict may happen in two Let's say, 633 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: in the event, any event that Donald Trump is not 634 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: president and Joe Biden is actually sworn in as President 635 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: of the United States. President of the United States, who 636 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: do you think would be the likely GOP front runner 637 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: in I like de Santis. To be honest, I like 638 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: Ron De Santis a lot. One because he will be 639 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: my new governor. Two. I like the fact that I 640 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: think from a policy perspective, he shares a lot of 641 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: like the beliefs and sentiments of President Trump. I also 642 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: think he's a fighter in the sense of if you 643 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: look at I mean, he faced fierce backlash on the 644 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: coronavirus in the way that Florida's estate was handling coronavirus, 645 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: especially in contrast with states like New York and California, 646 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: and he did not back down. And that's the path 647 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: forward for Republicans because, as we've noted throughout our conversations, 648 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: everyone's against us, right. So you've got most of the 649 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: media is against us. Corporations are against us. Twitter is 650 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: literally trying, you know, rigged the election against Donald Trump. 651 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: The left is against us, right, So the deck is 652 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: stacked against us. And the only way you win is 653 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: with someone who's tough enough to withstand that and withstand 654 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: the heat. And so you have to have a fighter. 655 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: You can't have another Rhymney, you can't have another George W. Bush. 656 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: You can't have someone who just backs down, he capitulates 657 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: and bows down to the left, and once they're you know, 658 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: once they're praise, you have to have someone who's going 659 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: to double down and fight. Yeah, you know you that's 660 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: an interesting point. I never ever ever thought about Rhonda 661 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: Santez is a guy that would I would see running 662 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: for president. But you I think you you you provided 663 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: an analysis that a lot of people, after listening to 664 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: this podcast, they're gonna think and say, wow, I never 665 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: thought about that, but maybe you're right. He did double 666 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: down in Florida. He said, hey, I'm moving removing all 667 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: COVID related restrictions. There will be no restrictions. I want 668 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: to ensure that businesses are open and they can thrive. Now, 669 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: there's local restrictions in some some areas like local city 670 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: councils or or county govern him as have applied restrictions, 671 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: but there's no no restrictions from the state level. So 672 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: I think that does vote well. But you don't think 673 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,439 Speaker 1: a guy like Mike Pence, maybe a guy to run, 674 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: a good Christian guy who who served as governor of 675 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 1: Indiana and of course served as Donald Trump's vice president, 676 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: you don't think he would make for a really splendid 677 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: presidential candidate. I like the Vice president a lot. I 678 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: have an immense amount of respect for him. I think 679 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: he is such a good man. I think he's a 680 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: smart man. And when he was getting so much he 681 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 1: for saying that, you know, he respects his wife too 682 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: much to go out and have dinners with female staff 683 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: or other I actually respect that was right before the 684 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: me to era too. Yeah, Like I think he's yeah, 685 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: So I think he is such a good man. So 686 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: like I really I have no like, I think he's amazing. 687 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: I just I think we need work in a place 688 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: politically where the left, even though they got what they 689 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: wanted from the election, they're still making enemies less. Okay, 690 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: that's that's not enough for them. So we're in a 691 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: place where we just need someone who's fearless and who's 692 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: a fighter. I also don't think that I will ever 693 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 1: vote for someone in a primary who isn't a business 694 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: and a business person man or woman, or a governor, 695 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: because I just don't think when you're in the Senate 696 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: or Congress, I just don't think you have the tools 697 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: you need to govern and the way that you obviously 698 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,399 Speaker 1: develop as a governor or business person. And I think 699 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: the reason why President Trump was such a successful president 700 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 1: was because he really did have an outsider perspective. I mean, 701 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: you go back and you look at that clip from 702 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: John Kerry in ten he said the only path to 703 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: peace in the Middle East is through the Palestinians. Like 704 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: that's basically the school of thought that all these people 705 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: before had about solving the Middle East problem. And then 706 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 1: here Trump comes in with an entirely different perspective, a 707 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: business perspective, and has gotten more AIRB Israel deals than 708 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: we have ever had in history done in a single term, 709 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: and so or or even just using tariffs to try 710 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: to get Mexico to step up on a legal immigration, 711 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: using that to solve problem, using sanctions smartly against Iran, 712 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: uh so, just literally looking at things from an entirely 713 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: different problem solving perspective as an outsider and someone who's 714 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: done negotiations and business dealings in the past. Whereas the 715 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: reason why Joe Biden is going to be if he 716 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: ends up in the White House, which you know, looks 717 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 1: like that's probably gonna be the case, the reason why 718 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: he's going to be such a bad president is because 719 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 1: he's been in DC for forty seven years. So every 720 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: belief every way he views a problem is from that 721 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 1: sort of toxic, corrupt government perspective and also viewing the 722 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: problems in the same failed way that all the politicians 723 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,879 Speaker 1: before him have viewed the problems. And that's why when 724 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: you look at the issues, he's literally been wrong about 725 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: pretty much everything, and he's going to be a terrible 726 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: president and we're all going to suffer as a result 727 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, and I would tell you Joe Biden's 728 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: flip flap more times than Gucci sandals on South Beach Market. 729 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: I should get a pair. I don't have a Paris 730 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: I'm not. That's a little bit too elite. Is that? 731 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: Who knows? I don't know. I don't know if I 732 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 1: want to pay for them. I'm too ching. No worries 733 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: at all. So as we are ending the show, because 734 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: we've been on here talking the good talk and providing 735 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: a lot of analysis, what's next for Lisa Booth? I 736 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 1: know you work in Fox News Channel. That's great. I 737 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: know you're gonna be there for a while. But what's 738 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: what's next for Lisa Booths? Yeah? I love TV UM 739 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: It's you know, I really just enjoy it. I love 740 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 1: the ability because I used to work in politics, and 741 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 1: I love being on the outside and really being able 742 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: to you know, because when you're speaking for someone you're 743 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 1: not you know, you're obviously your interests or to represent 744 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: them and make sure that they're fully represented in the 745 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,399 Speaker 1: things that you say and you do. And I love 746 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: being on the outside of politics and being able to 747 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 1: speak for myself and just being able to be a 748 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: pent like this is what I believe, this is the 749 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: way I see it. So I love that. So I'm 750 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: very thankful to be in this position. I'm trying to 751 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: I'm working on trying to get a podcast going. I'd 752 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: love to people have that outlet as well, and then 753 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: also working on a couple other things I can can't 754 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: talk about yet, but I will let everyone know about 755 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: as soon as I can. Yeah, just working on some 756 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: more ways to really be out there because I just 757 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 1: honestly it makes me sad because I just think there's 758 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: so much wrong in the country right now, and you know, 759 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: COVID's really just underscored a lot of those things with 760 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,439 Speaker 1: the way that like the people in charge just really 761 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: couldn't care less about the people are representing, Like all 762 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: these people who have not heard one person and advocate 763 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: for shutdowns who would actually have income be impacted by them. Right, 764 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: So like these people they don't care. It's true, they 765 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: don't care, and like it really yeah, like it makes 766 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: me mad. So there's a lot of things that I 767 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 1: think are wrong, and so you know, I'm doing the 768 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,439 Speaker 1: best I can from what I'm able to do, to 769 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: to try to at least talk about them and to 770 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: get conversations going, and to hopefully advocate for people who 771 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: made me feel like, you know, if they don't have 772 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: the opportunity to at least have, you know, a public 773 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 1: platform to talk about some of these things. So that's 774 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: kind of where I am right now. Uh, advocate the 775 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: run of office, no, because I just think Congress is 776 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: so broken. I think politics are so broken. Like I 777 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 1: worked on Capitol Hill for a number of years, and 778 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: I worked for some really good people like Sandy Adams 779 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: who's no longer there, and you know, Mark Meadows who's 780 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: no longer there. So I was blessed to work for 781 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 1: some really awesome people. But it's just broken. And I 782 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 1: think people be there, you know, they're there for too 783 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: long and they lose touch with the people they are representing. 784 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: So I just I don't think. I think it would 785 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,959 Speaker 1: frustrate me. And I think you can get more done 786 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: on the outside, to be honest, And I really think 787 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a movement over the next two years 788 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: of people just really seeing how broken everything is that 789 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: the media. You know, a lot of people in the 790 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: media don't represent them and don't really care about them 791 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: and don't care what they have to say, and don't 792 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: have an interest in getting to know them or getting 793 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: to know their concerns. You're going to have like Twitter 794 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: and Facebook and Google consolidate even more power under a 795 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: Biden administration. You're gonna have leaders who acted like they 796 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: cared about Trump supporters and Trump who have turned their 797 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: backs on him, you know, who turned their backs on 798 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: the supporters. You're gonna have a lot of people, I 799 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 1: believe that really just feel like they're not represented. So 800 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to do my best to try to understand 801 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 1: their needs and communicate that and the positions that I have, 802 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 1: you know, and try to listen and you know, not 803 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: become one of those people that are so out of 804 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 1: touch with like what's actually going on in the country. Right. Yeah, No, 805 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: you're correct, and I I appreciate that I think from 806 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: my perspective, especially being in very similar positions as you. 807 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: You're my colleague over at Fox. I'm thankful that I 808 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: have an opportunity to do the same because we have. 809 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: Although we we we we have very similar ideology. In 810 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 1: a way, we have some different perspectives based on the 811 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 1: way we grew up and I grew up in a 812 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: very different way, one in which typically doesn't lead a 813 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,879 Speaker 1: person to be conservative. But certainly growing up poor and 814 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: having a mom addicted to drugs, I think changes your 815 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,280 Speaker 1: perspective in life. And I also think for me personally, 816 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 1: I agree with something you said earlier in the podcast 817 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: when you talked about giving people a hand up, especially 818 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: those who who grew up in these very marginalized environments. 819 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: But I think with God, all things are possible. You 820 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: can supersede anyone who grew up with the highest level 821 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: degrees and the best family partnership with God will change 822 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,439 Speaker 1: all that. And I talked about that in my last 823 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 1: podcast with Dr Bill Winson. I hope everyone and listen 824 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:19,720 Speaker 1: to that. But I want to certainly thank you Jonathan. 825 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 1: Just sorry, sorry, sorry, I know we were trying. And 826 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 1: I also just want to say I have so much 827 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 1: respect for you and like your story and what you've 828 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,320 Speaker 1: done because like, admittedly, look I was born, I haven't 829 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: had those struggles, right, and so like I've had a 830 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: lot of opportunities like other people have in life, and 831 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 1: so I just like I have so much like you 832 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,439 Speaker 1: just work so hard and you know, and that's why 833 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: you've had the success you have is just sheer determination 834 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 1: and hard work. So I just like I have a 835 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 1: lot of respect for you as a good friend and 836 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: a colleague for just how hard you work and like 837 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,280 Speaker 1: charting your own course in life, that's very like, that's awesome. 838 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 1: So you know, much respect to you, my friend. Thank 839 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 1: you someone I really really, really really do appreciate you 840 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: saying that. Not never I always say because people would 841 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 1: call me exceptional, and I always reject that label because 842 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,879 Speaker 1: I think we're all exceptional all of the If you're 843 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: not exceptional, you certainly can be. And you you mentioned 844 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 1: that where all God's children, we all have potential. We 845 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: all have this hidden ability. You have to call the 846 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 1: potential and it's up to you to pull it out. 847 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 1: It's up to you to do the work is up 848 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,720 Speaker 1: to you. So for for those who who talk about 849 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 1: the government, and institutional racism, which I do. I know 850 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't think it exists. I do 851 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: believe in institutional racism, and I think ninety four crime 852 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 1: bill pushed by Joe Biden is institutionally racist. That's what 853 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 1: I believe. But I think, in spite of all of 854 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: those odds, me personally, a partnership with God changes the 855 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: dynamic completely and totally and will supersede whatever is going 856 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: on in this natural world. And that's that's personally how 857 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 1: I feel. And I want to thank you so much 858 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: for those warm, warm compliments, and I totally, I will 859 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 1: heartily agree with your statement about a relationship with God 860 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: and also just family's important, God's important, friends are important, 861 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 1: and those are the things that bring the most fulfillment 862 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: in life. And you know the things that I think 863 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 1: if we work our hardest to get settled, the rest 864 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: comes with it, you know, I agree with. And that's 865 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 1: that's the blessing of being able to do this work, 866 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 1: to have people see an example of something different. Whereas 867 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: society says if you grew up in this particular way, 868 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 1: you should end up like this, when God is saying 869 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 1: your path has already made just walk down and don't 870 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 1: fear so I appreciate that. Lisa, thank you so much, 871 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 1: my friend, my friend, thank you, thank you. In Miami 872 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: it was This is going to be a great one. 873 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 1: Thank you. You're gonna have to show me around my friends, 874 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 1: you know I will. We're gonna go to all the 875 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: foolest places wherever we can. Full Loble Dennis. Let's go 876 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 1: be free. It'll be awesome, right, absolutely unlike New York. 877 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: So until then, we'll talk soon and certainly everyone follow 878 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 1: Lisa Booth on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and Harlor and we'll 879 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 1: be sure to keep you posted on what Lisa Booths 880 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 1: on next. This is Out Loud with Gianno called Well. 881 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: Thanks to Lisa Boo for a great interview. 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