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Speaker 1: It's a Tuesday on Texans All Access. Welcome in. We're

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Speaker 1: in the Hyunday Texans Radio studio. I'm Dpcido joining me,

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Speaker 1: Mark Vandermer, Drudeherty, John Harris will be in a little

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Speaker 1: bit later because of course OTAs are underway, so we've

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Speaker 1: got lots to talk about, a pretty stacked show, and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get into all of our observations from today's practice.

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Speaker 1: They actually started yesterday, but the media was out there today.

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Speaker 1: Players came to the podium. Bill O'Brien talked about what's happening. Guys,

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Speaker 1: isn't it great? It's there's football awesome, people love it,

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Speaker 1: are playing football, veterans and rookies together together conjuntos. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's been great, and it's hot, and it's Houston. It's mate.

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Speaker 1: It really feels like the off seasons. Well, I'm not

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Speaker 1: a global warming guy necessarily like every day of my life,

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Speaker 1: but I gotta tell you this, it's definitely hotter for

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Speaker 1: the start of OTAs the last couple of years that

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Speaker 1: it's been ever here. Ever. You two suckers wore jeans

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Speaker 1: and long sleeve shirt. I wore my Battle Mint short shirt,

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Speaker 1: a short sleeve shirt. I was fine. It was not hot.

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Speaker 1: It actually was fine because it rained a little bit

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Speaker 1: and breezy. Yeah it was. It was not nice. We

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Speaker 1: And they've been out here, you know it is if

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Speaker 1: you're a northern guy. Sure, but here you are and

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Speaker 1: it's May and it's just already feeling like summer. But

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Speaker 1: that's fine. This gets them used to the training camp

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Speaker 1: you might as well get used to it now. I'm

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Speaker 1: not used to it yet. Here we go often running OTAs,

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Speaker 1: which stands for organized team activities. Everybody asks this question

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Speaker 1: this time of year. They do, Yeah, they do. What

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Speaker 1: organized team activities? Yeah, like I thought that would run

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Speaker 1: all the same. It's all it's organized. But I'm saying

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Speaker 1: it looked very organized. And Bill O'Brien, he talked about

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Speaker 1: it today, the veterans and the rookies together on the field.

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Speaker 1: Here is what the head coach had to say. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's no doubt that, um that this time of the

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Speaker 1: of reasons. There's there's a lot of different players that

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Speaker 1: are rehabbing. You have all different things going on. You

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Speaker 1: have new new people in your organization, you know, new

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Speaker 1: coaches getting used to things, so that that's important to

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Speaker 1: get them up to speed with the with the pace

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Speaker 1: obviously out on the field and OTAs. This is really

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Speaker 1: the first time that you can, you know, go out

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Speaker 1: the spring. It was great to see the veterans and

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Speaker 1: spectacular catches, which I think he was doing that by

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Speaker 1: the time we hit training camp. Well you saw the

425
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Speaker 1: last year one thing about but he was working on

426
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Speaker 1: a lot of different things because he had to work

427
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Speaker 1: on blocking. I mean, he was a receiver. And the

428
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Speaker 1: funny thing about practice and the funny thing but the

429
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Speaker 1: thing about practice is you don't always know watching practice,

430
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Speaker 1: like we might not know exactly what he's supposed to

431
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Speaker 1: be doing pre snap, right the coaches do, so they're

432
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Speaker 1: looking for a lot of different things. But one thing

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Speaker 1: that was clear last year was Thomas could catch the football.

434
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Speaker 1: He had those four touchdown receptions last year, so there's

435
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Speaker 1: no question about that. There's no question about Aikens, who

436
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Speaker 1: you know. We had Aikins in studio here. We were

437
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Speaker 1: talking to him and he said, yeah, we reminded him

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Speaker 1: of the Kansas City game the first preseason. Gave me

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Speaker 1: a cop two touchdowns in that game, I think both

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Speaker 1: in the first half, if I'm not mistaken. And he said, oh, yeah,

441
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Speaker 1: I forgot all about that, Like he forgot forgot all

442
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Speaker 1: about the preseason. He forgot all about that. I'm thinking, well,

443
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Speaker 1: I haven't, okay, because at that point everybody thought he

444
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Speaker 1: was going to Hawaii, Orlando or whatever, but not every Well,

445
00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,600
Speaker 1: think about it. I mean, just the three, the three

446
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Speaker 1: tight ends that have been drafted the last two years.

447
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a matchup problem in the red zone.

448
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Speaker 1: It's a matchup problem first and goal. You can do

449
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Speaker 1: a lot of different if you're heavy up. Yeah, yeah,

450
00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,000
Speaker 1: and throw Fells in there too, because when I was

451
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Speaker 1: talking with him last week, he said, I'm a left

452
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,959
Speaker 1: left tackle. He's like an extra lineman, and he's he's

453
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,679
Speaker 1: he was downplaying his pass catching skills, but he has

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Speaker 1: ten touchdown catches the last four years combined. That's weren't

455
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Speaker 1: any That's weren't any of the tight ends last year

456
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Speaker 1: had on the team. It's weren't any of the tight

457
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Speaker 1: ends two years ago had on this team. I mean

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Speaker 1: that's pretty darn good. And I mean there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of options with these I've got the formation. Okay, you

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Speaker 1: go five old linemen, all right, you put the three

461
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Speaker 1: tight ends out there. Sure, all right, Now you put

462
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Speaker 1: the four tight ends, you go heavy, beefy run set.

463
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Speaker 1: But then right before the snap you spread everybody out.

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Speaker 1: You could do that with those guys. Ken, You're gonna

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Speaker 1: do it in your flag football league, aren't you. Yes,

466
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Speaker 1: that well, you don't have Jordan Thomas. You don't have

467
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Speaker 1: a lot of tight ends. You don't have to beef

468
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Speaker 1: up those kids before the next game. Not really, but

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Speaker 1: I got good kids. All right. Let's go around the

470
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Speaker 1: NFL in Division news. Andrew Lupton up practice today. He

471
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Speaker 1: was out with a calf strain. All right, So I

472
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Speaker 1: think I Mark gets over excited. No, I think that

473
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Speaker 1: Andrew luck with the calf strain. This is a very

474
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Speaker 1: serious injury. He needs to sit out the season now.

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Speaker 1: I mean the calf thing is big. Actually it's funny

476
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Speaker 1: because this is what this is what you better do.

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Speaker 1: Mike Leach, by the way, a lot this summer since

478
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Speaker 1: he's gonna coach a game here against the Coogs on

479
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 1: that what is it, the second regular season? Yeah, you

480
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 1: gotta play with good pad level and love it. So

481
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Speaker 1: here's the thing about the calf injury. Though, this is

482
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Speaker 1: only gonna be a training ot a thing for him.

483
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Speaker 1: But this is what Duran has. It's worse than it

484
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: sounds to have a calf strain apparently, because well it's

485
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Speaker 1: worse teaming. I don't I'm not saying it's gonna keep

486
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Speaker 1: him for three months or whatever. But the point is clearly,

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Speaker 1: you know with Duran you hear calf strain. There's certain

488
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Speaker 1: injuries like turf toe. It's like it's your toe, Come on,

489
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Speaker 1: get out. Aren't there degrees of calf strains? Probably, so

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Speaker 1: we don't know everything. We don't know. If that's why

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Speaker 1: I think he should retire. I don't know if I

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Speaker 1: disagree with that, Drew. Everything's a spectrum. Binary numbers are

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Speaker 1: not spectrum. Wow, come on now, over one. You're talking

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Speaker 1: to an engineer over everything's very finite injury. When you

495
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Speaker 1: talk about injury, math is finite injury injuries. Yes, Deep

496
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Speaker 1: is the most educated person here, all right, until John

497
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Speaker 1: Harris won NBA at Rice and engineering degree of Purdue.

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Speaker 1: You've an NBA from Rice. Cougs Oh, okay, cougar, which

499
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,719
Speaker 1: I don't like to say too often because I'm a cougar.

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Speaker 1: I have to say it, you know, in the right context. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: does you do? But anyone? I don't even know how

502
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Speaker 1: he got on that. But Frank Reich just disagrees with you.

503
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Speaker 1: He says it's just a little tweak. But they just

504
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Speaker 1: don't want to get overly, you know, they they want

505
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Speaker 1: to stay overly cautious. One. I think Frank Reich should retire.

506
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Speaker 1: He's retired. It's Ballard too, all right around the league.

507
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Speaker 1: Somebody who's not going to retire, or he is going

508
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Speaker 1: to retire as a Patriot. Julian Edelman signed a two

509
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Speaker 1: year extent with the team. New England locked up their

510
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP for probably the rest of his career.

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Speaker 1: Big news for a team that doesn't necessarily do that. All.

512
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Speaker 1: Speaking of retiring as a Patriots, so is Jared filled

513
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: here he retired today. He's a left tackle or right tackle,

514
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Speaker 1: and was he'd gone to the Patriots and he would

515
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Speaker 1: decided he's just gonna call it quits. So okay, Well,

516
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Speaker 1: Edelman's really good. This just Dan and his coming out

517
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Speaker 1: party was here in this stadium when Wes Welker went

518
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Speaker 1: down with that knee injury and everyone thought, who's this

519
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Speaker 1: number eleven? Julian Edeman Edelman, and he lit it up.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he had a really great day. The Patriots

521
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Speaker 1: were up two touchdowns on the fourth quarter. Texans came

522
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Speaker 1: back and won that game. But I'll never forget Edelman

523
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Speaker 1: really erupting on that afternoon and looking a lot like

524
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Speaker 1: Welker and look at him. He's still in the league,

525
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Speaker 1: just came off an MVP year. He looks yoke too.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he definitely looks like he's spent a lot

527
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Speaker 1: of time in the weight room. He's committed. You know,

528
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Speaker 1: he's got all that Tom versus time help eating guacamole,

529
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Speaker 1: ice cream. Yeah, whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, so it's

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Speaker 1: kind of I just it makes me sick. Sorry. Billbron

531
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Speaker 1: was asked Gerald McCoy today if the Texans had any

532
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Speaker 1: interest and signing him. He well, I think he said.

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Speaker 1: I listened to the whole answer, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: I think he didn't answer it, but I think what

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Speaker 1: I was like, Yeah, McLain asked the question, Well, you

536
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Speaker 1: have to I guess. I guess as the Beat reporter,

537
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Speaker 1: I guess you have to ask the question. But he

538
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Speaker 1: did not get an answer, and I don't. I mean,

539
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Speaker 1: what's Bill O'Brien gona. He's not gonna say yes if

540
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Speaker 1: they are, and he's not gonna say no because they

541
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Speaker 1: might be interested at some point. So he basically said, well,

542
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Speaker 1: we look at everybody to improve the team and something

543
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Speaker 1: along those lines. But it looks like the Bucks have

544
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Speaker 1: found his replacement in Dominican Sue. Yes one, probably less

545
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Speaker 1: money than what Jerald McCoy was gonna be paid. He's

546
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: not a Top five Texans villain, but he's one of

547
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Speaker 1: the Texans villains and the history of this franchise for

548
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Speaker 1: Detroit with the in a another region as we put it,

549
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Speaker 1: and that was not a good afternoon for match Shop

550
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Speaker 1: other than the win, I mean, got the win that day,

551
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: but that that definitely hurts. I think that's the that's

552
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Speaker 1: a series or an article or something. Top five Villains

553
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Speaker 1: for Houston Texans dot Com. I'm just gonna throw it

554
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Speaker 1: out there for you, Mark Start Start married. It's good

555
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: for the desert which is coming up, coming up very soon.

556
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 1: Cortland Fitt again, who else Courtland Fitt again, Albert Haynesworth

557
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Speaker 1: and Dominican Sue I mean t Y Hilton, Oh yeah,

558
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Speaker 1: I mean none. I would go non quarterback then, yeah,

559
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Speaker 1: because because because other way is going to fill it

560
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: up with Peyton May Brady, yeah, Manning Brady Luck. Who

561
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Speaker 1: else did you've actually had some success against, Like Steve

562
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: McNair early was was a problem for this team, sure,

563
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: but it's hard to hate, I mean because he was

564
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: he was an oiler. People hated him once he left. Yeah,

565
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: all right, a guy that people don't hate. John Harris.

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Speaker 1: He's coming up one final segment. He's gonna go on

567
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Speaker 1: a little bit of an OH line rant. That's coming up.

568
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: You won't want to miss. Scheduled rant and OTA standouts

569
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Speaker 1: the way only John Harris can do. That's coming up

570
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Speaker 1: one final segment of Texans All Access Don't Go Anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Texans All Access. Our final segment, John Harris.

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Speaker 1: We've been teasing it all show long. His observations weren't

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Speaker 1: from OTA's Week one. Johnny, how's it going. I'm doing well.

574
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: Football is sort of back. Well, summer ots are back

575
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Speaker 1: because it's hot outside, so I know that we're at

576
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Speaker 1: the right time of year. I was a little worried

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Speaker 1: a few weeks ago when it was like pleasant and seventy.

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Speaker 1: I thought, this is not Otia weather. It's not football weather,

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Speaker 1: at least on these parts. Titus Howard was asked about

580
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Speaker 1: that practice up at the podium, and I thound it

581
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Speaker 1: was fascinating, Like, yeah, I'm from Alvin. Look it gets

582
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Speaker 1: hot in other states. There's just people in Houston think

583
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Speaker 1: that we have heat here. And it's so different everywhere else. Look,

584
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: it gets hot, it's just a different level of hot.

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Speaker 1: It's like here it's it's like a nine point nine

586
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Speaker 1: or a ten all the time. In other places it's

587
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Speaker 1: like a it's a good solid eight point eight nine.

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Speaker 1: There's just a little bit of difference, especially when you're

589
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Speaker 1: playing football where it gets to be tough. But it

590
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 1: was too bad. It was a pretty strong breeze out

591
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Speaker 1: there today, So yeah, it actually good. It wasn't that

592
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: bad with the breeze. It rained a little bit. I mean,

593
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Speaker 1: I was thinking about camp and how we're back in

594
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Speaker 1: Houston this year, and I thought, these guys, I think

595
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: business hot. But yeah, it's good. You get acclimate. Did

596
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: you get a few months to acclimate? All right, Johnny.

597
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: First day that we actually got to lay our eyes

598
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Speaker 1: on a lot of the some of the new players

599
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: we saw. We saw the rookie mini camp obviously, but

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Speaker 1: let's start with the olone because it's the first time

601
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: we've seen everybody together, right umbly, Obviously, that's gonna be

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00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 1: a hot topic, I think throughout OTAs. I even wrote

603
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: a story in Houston Texans dot Com Storylines to Watch

604
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: that was number one and it was actually one of

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Speaker 1: the top stories last year as well. Your thoughts from today.

606
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: I know everybody wants to know how tight As Howard did. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in that short amount of time that we were out there. Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, offs Lineman not in pads. Uh Well,

609
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: obviously we talked about that for a long time and

610
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: that will never change with OTAs unless something comes out

611
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 1: of the CBA, which I don't think you will. But

612
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: they'll not be without pad or they'll be without pads

613
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 1: for a while up until training camp. But you can

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00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: see the athleticism he has. I mean it's pretty clear.

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00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: I mean, just this body type is funny. I was

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Speaker 1: talking to Amy Palasick and Titus is up talking at

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Speaker 1: the podium after practice and I turned turned to Amy

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Speaker 1: and I was like, he is a dead ringer for Dwayne,

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Speaker 1: and she goes, I know right, and apparent she said

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Speaker 1: that he's been told the same thing people people have

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Speaker 1: people have come up to him is like, oh, you

622
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: really remind me of Dwyne. I don't know that's people

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Speaker 1: into building, out of the building, whatever, but people say

624
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: remind him Dwayne. So hopefully he one day plays like

625
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: like Dwayne. Yeah, I hopefully that's that reminds people. It

626
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: reminds people all in the field as well. Yeah, um,

627
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: you can see there are some things that are like okay, uh,

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00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: that's that's the thing to work on. That's something to

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Speaker 1: work on. It facing Vets for the first time. You know,

630
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Speaker 1: he's going from from facing you know, guys are Grambling

631
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Speaker 1: and alcorn State and even the one time against Auburn,

632
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: it's all of a sudden facing a guy like Whitney

633
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,719
Speaker 1: merciless and you know Whitney's Whitney's bringing a cadre of

634
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: skills to the party that I haven't seen that before.

635
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: So that's gonna be great for him, even just seeing

636
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: it now. And then obviously when you get the pads

637
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: then you can be a little bit more physical. But

638
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: I sense the players and Deshaan even mentioned this like

639
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: they they see the mentality. Like Sean even used the

640
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: word nasty, adding some nasty the offensive line. Here's the

641
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: one thing about the offensive line. Because I know we're

642
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: getting it. I know we're gonna get the question. I

643
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: know it's gonna happen, and I know it's gonna come

644
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: a cooler talk. It's gonna be the new what's up?

645
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: With Deante Foreman question, how does the offensive line look? What?

646
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: Who are the starters? What's gonna happen? I will tell

647
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: you right now on this day, May twenty first. I

648
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: should know the day because it was my wife's birthday.

649
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: I say, happy birthday baby. The starting offensive line will

650
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: not be known until Monday, September ninth, and if done,

651
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: don't there's no more to be said about it. If

652
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: you ask that the offensive line is or what it's

653
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: going to be, you're just forget it. You're not gonna

654
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: get a straight answer. Because today at OTAs we saw

655
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: maybe ten different combinations. There were a lot, and Titus

656
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: was moved around quite a bit. He was even asked

657
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: about it. He said, he said he likes it because

658
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: that just means he's on the field more. And I

659
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: wonder how much of it is just getting him reps

660
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,479
Speaker 1: as many reps as possible, and how much of it

661
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: is just seeing where he fits yep, because you got

662
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: Julian out there, so you got Seantrel out there. Yeah,

663
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: and you don't have Matt Clil out There's not there yet.

664
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: He's not out there yet, still rehabbing from the injury

665
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: that that kept him out all of twenty eighteen. So

666
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,959
Speaker 1: Martinez is out there. Yeah. So, as I've said many times,

667
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: you walked up to the you got this big canvas,

668
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: and you walked up there maybe in years pass with

669
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: a few different paint colors. Now you've got a bunch

670
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: of different paint colors and you're just throwing it up

671
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: on the canvas and seeing what it looks like. So

672
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you that you can't come

673
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: ask me about the offensive line, because I'll tell you

674
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: what I think. Want to you know, what what the

675
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: I think? What does Max sharping look like? What does

676
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: this guy look like? You know, I'll try and give

677
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: you when they really get into especially in training camp.

678
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: But whatever you see from here on out, just know

679
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: that there is nothing that will be set in stone

680
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: until September nine. Well yeah, but in it doesn't matter.

681
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: I don't care who. Let me. Let me let me

682
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: throw let me throw a hypothetical out you let me

683
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: let me just just just want hypothetical. You're in training camp,

684
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,719
Speaker 1: they're in pads, You've got a couple of you've got

685
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: a couple of standouts. You're you're like, this guy looks

686
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: like a left tackle. This is where he's the most comfortable.

687
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: Ye can we pretty much definitively No, not even then? Nope, nope,

688
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: because other than Martin, other than Nick Martin, it's all

689
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: a question mark. Or is there anybody else that you

690
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: think we might be reasonably close to knowing? I'm just

691
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: saying that there's gonna I mean, are we even sure

692
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: about Nick? I'm pretty sure about Okay, Well you can

693
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: be sure. You might be wrong, you're wrong. I hadn't

694
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: thought about that. But he can move around as well.

695
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: You're right, Nick can't move around and what they are

696
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: trying to do. Then I'm gonna get to one thing though,

697
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: that really did stand out with the offensive line from

698
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: just a visual perspective. Get that in a second. But

699
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: I know people will put things on Twitter, people in

700
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: the media, the fans, people, look, this is the offensive line. No,

701
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: you will not know what the offensive line is until

702
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: September nine. Don't ask. And that's that's even. You won't

703
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: know until maybe the game actually starts, right, because you

704
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: won't know. Sometimes we don't even we don't even publish

705
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: the starting lineup. Now, do you have an idea who's

706
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: gonna be? Okay? Nick Martin? You said Nick. I think

707
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: Nick's Yeah, I think that's fairly. I don't say set

708
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: in stone, but if there's anything seen stone, I would

709
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: think that. I think Nick's gonna be on the A.

710
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: I think Nick Nick will be at center. After that,

711
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: I would tell you I think Zach Fulton starts. I

712
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: don't know where after that. Well, Martinez Rankin, we we

713
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: don't we know left left guard? We maybe do we

714
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,959
Speaker 1: owned thought maybe maybe I was a little more than

715
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 1: I thought. There is. There is nothing set in stone

716
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: on this offensive line. The only two things that I

717
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,959
Speaker 1: would say that I am absolutely a thousand percent in

718
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: agreement with that. I would say, yes, lock this in

719
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: is that Nick Martin probably the center. Zach Fulton will

720
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: start somewhere on the offensive line. At that point every

721
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: other bed is off, every other bed is off. Yeah, John,

722
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: they drafted time is Howard to start? Yeah, he may start.

723
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: I don't know where, But I don't think Starping was

724
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: drafted to be a tackle. Where is he gonna start?

725
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: Is he gonna start? Is he is he gonna be

726
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: a guard? See? That's the whole thing from now until

727
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: September ninth is finding which five pieces fit the best

728
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: at the right spot, that's the biggest key right now

729
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: and whatever. And my buddy Sean Pendergast said this, and

730
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: I loved, I love this phrasing, and so I'm gonna

731
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: use it here. Old arrangements, they don't flyements. We're not

732
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: honoring the old arrangements. Oh well, you know. But but

733
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: back last year, it was doesn't matter. Last year has

734
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 1: nothing whatsoever to do with this year. On the offensive

735
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: line that all of your heads mine, y'alls deep, you

736
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: already know, so I don't telling you that, but what

737
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: you see in OTAs, and I know other media members

738
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: probably listening to go, wait a second, they were like,

739
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: y'all get on board too, y'all get bought on board

740
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: with the fact that you're gonna see guys in different spots. Now,

741
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: you might see the same five guys up front from

742
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: day to day, but you might see them in different

743
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: spots from day to day. So that to me is

744
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: what this time is all about. Is Hey, what does

745
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,479
Speaker 1: this look like? What would happen if we did this?

746
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: And I considering this is the one time I will

747
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: go last year, considering last year, the struggles, considering they're

748
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,959
Speaker 1: trying to find the right fit in front, of the sean,

749
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: I'm fine with trying to find that. And so if

750
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: that means OTA's and the early part of training camp

751
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: is spent with, hey, this guy's gonna bump from here

752
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: to here, Hey, let's take a look at here. Because look,

753
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: when you get a couple of rookie offensive linemen, when

754
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: you get you you have a feeling having watched them

755
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: on tape, and you trust your scouting department to say, look,

756
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: where do we think this guy's gonna play short term?

757
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: Long term? Where do we think he's gonna play? For

758
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: some guys, those might be two different things. Well, short

759
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: term we think this, long term we might think this.

760
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: So you've got to figure that all You got to

761
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: figure that all out. And so really the only time

762
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: you have to do that is in OTAs and in

763
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: early in training camp because once you get to week

764
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: three a training camp, you don't hit for the rest

765
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: of the year basically, right, So what are you going

766
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: to figure out with an offensive line at that point?

767
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: What are you what are you going to figure out?

768
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: Guys are gonna have to learn on a job at

769
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: that point if they're going into get games. So because

770
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: that's you're not gonna hit anybody at that point. I mean,

771
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: I think your padded practices maybe go to week four

772
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: or five if that, and you only get one week

773
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: if that. So from that perspective, you got to figure

774
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 1: it out. Now, figure out what those guys can do

775
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: right now? This guy can play tackle, but he can't

776
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,479
Speaker 1: play guard, or hey, this guy can play both guard

777
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: and tackle, but left and right, and I don't know

778
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: about that. So you've got to figure that all out,

779
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: especially with two rookies that you have a feeling are

780
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 1: going to be a factor on offensive line and do time.

781
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: All right, So one more, one more question before we

782
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: move on. Do you think that Bill O'Brien and the

783
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: coaching staff at what point do you think they know

784
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: who the starting five are? Could you bring up a

785
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 1: good point about the padded practice when they do when?

786
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: Do you think they have a pretty good idea of

787
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: who those five are? I mean, I'm sure they've been

788
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: doodling on napkins for months thinking about, well, what happened

789
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: if they end up with this guy and this guy?

790
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: How will it look? What do we think this thing

791
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: is going to look like in twenty twenty one? What

792
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: do we think this will look like in a year,

793
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: what do we think it's gonna look like Week one?

794
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: There's still some question marks for the offense, the line

795
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: as far as what pieces are going to fit best.

796
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: But if they find the best five linemen here, that

797
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: our best five lineman right now, and this guy can

798
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: really only play left tackle, this guy can only play

799
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: right guard, fit everybody else in the right way and

800
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: let them go, They're gonna need some continuity time. So

801
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 1: I'd imagine by after the Lions preseason game, going into

802
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 1: the Dallas preseason game, they would have a pretty decent

803
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,959
Speaker 1: idea of what they think it's going to be. And look,

804
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: sometimes the injuries may kind of solve all that whole thing,

805
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: but that offensive line is not going to be set

806
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: in stone, and nothing is set in stone, and I

807
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: know that there will be people out there that were

808
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: like what it said, No, no, no, Now next year

809
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: we're going to twenty twenty, hopefully things are a little

810
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: bit more. Hey, he's our left tackle, he's our right tackle,

811
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 1: he's our left guardies, are right guardians are center. Away

812
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 1: we go. But as far as getting it right this year,

813
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: to establish a better foundation for to Sean and this

814
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: offense and these skill players, because I'm telling you from

815
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: a skill player perspective. I haven't seen speed like this

816
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: in a long time. I haven't seen the full package

817
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 1: of skill players like this in a long time. Here's

818
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: the other thing with the offensive line. D before we

819
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: get off it, no matter who the five guys are

820
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: out there, this offensive line will be bigger than I

821
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: can ever remember that. It is huge. Actually, you know

822
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: what it is huge. Chandrew Henderson seemed huge to me

823
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: last year, and this year I saw him next to

824
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: Julian Davenport and I thought Julian's gotten bigger as well.

825
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: Julian told us he's at three twenty Titus was measured

826
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 1: to combine at three twenty two max sharping and measured

827
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: to combine three twenty seven. Zach Fulton, I know, is

828
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 1: at least three fifteen three twenty at guard. Now Nick

829
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: the program for Nick or the roster says two ninety

830
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: five for Nick Now, Nick is more than three hundred pounds.

831
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: But Nick is the lightest of any of them. But

832
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: just looking at the size of the offensive lineman, and

833
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: it's size that can move. That's the thing. So however

834
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: you put them all together, you gotta have an offensive

835
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: line just thinking out loud, you could have an offensive

836
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: line with Julian at three twenty, Titis Howard at three

837
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: twenty two, Sharping at three twenty seven, and Seantrelle at

838
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: three forty. I mean you'd be massive those O line dinners, Johnny.

839
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: I mean they're gonna be putting away some food, my goodness.

840
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: And so yes, they want to be able to run

841
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: the ball at that kind of size, but they've also obviously,

842
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: you got to protect the Sean, there's no doubt. So

843
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Speaker 1: it's gonna come back to which five are the best

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Speaker 1: combination of protecting to Sean but also opening the holes

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Speaker 1: for Lamar and the otand the run game. All right,

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Speaker 1: so let's talk about some of your standouts today and OTAs.

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00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: I know it's hard to tell obviously no pads, but

848
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: some guys, I know what people want to know, John Harris,

849
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: you were out there, you saw you laid eyes on

850
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: some of these guys for the first time. Who really

851
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: stood out to you today? I really like with Kiki's doing.

852
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: I just I was I've been a big fan of

853
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: his for a long time. I'd love them at Texas Tech.

854
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: Back to the first time that he really popped from me.

855
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: We were flying in New England in twenty seventeen and

856
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: on that Saturday, I was on the We're on a

857
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 1: plane and we were watching Texas Tech take on Houston

858
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: and Number two caught everything and everything down the field, running, catching, run,

859
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: and he did everything. And I was like, man, well,

860
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: I love a player like that. And so when we

861
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: got to see him for the short amount of time

862
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: that we did last year, it was just it was tantalizing,

863
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: but just watching him and DeShawn mentioned it too, He

864
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: talked about how much faster and quicker. It seemed like

865
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: he key was only because he knew what he was doing.

866
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: He's that much more comfortable with the offense. So q

867
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,479
Speaker 1: QT to me was a guy that just stood out

868
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: from that that perspective. Everything's faster, quicker and catches the

869
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: ball extremely well. So I just I love watching Kylie

870
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: Wearing is just a dude. He's gonna be a He's

871
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: gonna be a big time player. I hope that he can.

872
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: He made a couple of nice catches today. We saw

873
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: him in rookie mini camp and thought, what a specimen

874
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: he is. But doese him out there with the rest

875
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: of the team and you know, he was out there,

876
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: he was contributing. And not only that. I mean, you

877
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: know a lot of times when rookies get out there,

878
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: you're like does he fit? Does he fit? You're like, yeah,

879
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 1: he fits. He definitely fits. He stands out. He definitely fits.

880
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: There's there's no question about that. When we were at

881
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: rookie mini camp and we were looking out on the field,

882
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 1: I remember Mark walking order to be going. I thought

883
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: Lonnie Johnson was supposed to be bigger. So today the

884
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: DBS were over by us and Lonnie was standing there.

885
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: And it's funny because Justin Reid mentioned this during his

886
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: press compass, like Lonnie's almost bigger than I am. And

887
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: I was like, no, Justin, he is bigger. He's bigger.

888
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: We saw him standing next to you. I turned to

889
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: Mark and I was like, that's Justin Reid. He started safety.

890
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: I was like, that's Lonnie Johnson. You think he's he's

891
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: not as big anymore. He goes WHOA. And I thought

892
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: Lonnie today, I thought he thought he covered pretty well,

893
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: reacted it and recovered on things. If he'd gotten beat

894
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: at all, I thought I thought he covered pretty well.

895
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: From what I was able to see it times, I

896
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: feel I feel pretty good about what he's going to

897
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: be able to bring. But I'll tell you this. You

898
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 1: know who looked big to me while we're talking about

899
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: secondary was to Sean Gibson. Well, that's exactly what I

900
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: was gonna say. Maybe because he's a little he's he's

901
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: five eleven, he's listed at five eleven, but he just looked, yeah,

902
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: he's thick. He looked, yeah. Stick is a nice way

903
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: to put it, right, He's stick, I especially compared to

904
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: the defensive backs we've seen recently in recent years. Two

905
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: things to or stain out from that way. Number One,

906
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: I was going to bring up the safeties just because

907
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: Gibson and read just how imposing they look back there,

908
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: but how fluid they are, how interchangeable they can be,

909
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: and the things that they can do. That that excites me.

910
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 1: And I know they would do that with Tyran last

911
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: year as well. But you always had to fear a

912
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: little bit of Tyrant. Man, Tyrant goes down into the box.

913
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: I know he's good, but man, that that can that's

914
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: a that's a tough road for a guy five nine,

915
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty five pounds. Now, Gip goes down there,

916
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: t Gip goes down there and it's five having two fifteen.

917
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: So if he's got it, if they've got a uh,

918
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: if they've got to move, or they've got a transition

919
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: based on motion or a shift or whatever, they can

920
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: just look at each other and go go you know,

921
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: you go up, I'll go back. I'll go back, you

922
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: go up. Whatever. They can figure that out. The other

923
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: aspect is and it really stuck me with with Deante

924
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: Burton because he's wearing twenty five. That is a hard

925
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: number to adjust to, right, And well, that's what's gonna say.

926
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: Right when you look out there and you think about Kareem,

927
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: and you think about some of the other corners, and

928
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: then you see Deonte Burton, who's like six one six

929
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: two two hundred ten pounds. You see Burton standing next

930
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: to Line Johnson. I see them talking, and see Derek Batty,

931
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: who's the undrafted free agent. You go, what I say

932
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: about old arrangements, Old arrangements aren't honored. The corners now

933
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: six foot and above, which is yeah, now, Jonathan Joseph

934
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: is not quite that, but you know how much j

935
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,959
Speaker 1: Joe knows, and you respect that. But six foot corners

936
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: from anybody below six foot It's gonna be tough. It's

937
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: gonna be tough. Hopefully you see Bradley Road before too long.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be kind of fun. That will be a

939
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: lot of fun, all right, Johnny, thanks so much for

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00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: your observations. That's gonna do for Texans All Access. We'll

941
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: be back tomorrow night of course, as always six to

942
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 1: seven pm, and then OTAs roll on through the rest

943
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Speaker 1: of the month. Thanks so much for listening. Check out

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00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: all the news, the videos and more on Houston Texans

945
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: dot com. That's gonna do it for us. I'm DBC

946
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: two John Harris. Thanks to Mark Vandermer and Rudeherty. Go Texans.