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Speaker 1: welcome in Side Hour too, the Jason Smith Show with

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Speaker 1: my best friend Mike Harmon. Yeah, Happy Kershaw Day. Yeah

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Speaker 1: it is I well, okay, it's okay. The White Sox

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Speaker 1: lead the Dodgers four to two in the third inning. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not been a great night for Clayton Kershaw, who

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Speaker 1: entered the game three strikeouts away from the magical number

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Speaker 1: of three thousand. Again watch it because maybe it's gonna

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Speaker 1: happen one more time in your lifetime if Chris Sale

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Speaker 1: gets there. Outside of that, don't know what's gonna happen again.

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Speaker 1: But despite the fact that he has been getting knocked

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Speaker 1: all round Chavez Ravine, he does have one strikeout tonight,

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Speaker 1: so he is now two away from three thousand. The

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Speaker 1: biggest thing is is he going to be in the

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Speaker 1: game long enough to get there, because again, four runs

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Speaker 1: in the first three innings, and he has given up

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Speaker 1: a lot of hits, a lot of hard contact as well.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know. Maybe he's got another I think

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Speaker 1: at this point, if you're the Dodgers and he gets

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Speaker 1: because it clearly is not his night so far. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know he's got a cup more innings for

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Speaker 1: those two strikeouts. Yeah, he's been up in the zone

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Speaker 1: a lot, and the velocity's not there. He's not missing bats.

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Speaker 1: To the White Sox lineup credit, it's the just put

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Speaker 1: the ball in play. When's the last time that has

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Speaker 1: been said, give the White Sox lineup credit. No, they've

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Speaker 1: been playing pretty well. They play hard for Venable, I

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Speaker 1: get this credit when someone said give the White Sox

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Speaker 1: two thousands. That was two thousand and five World Serious, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: I think maybe he's part of a giant reunion getting

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Speaker 1: far through his three innings pitch he has already thrown

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Speaker 1: sixty three pitches. As we've talked about, location has not

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Speaker 1: No it is. It is definitively not Clayton Kershaw's night.

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Speaker 1: But again, two strikeouts away, probably still a couple more

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Speaker 1: innings he's gonna go. They're not gonna take him out

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Speaker 1: on that throughout the night. Well also, I mean, if

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Speaker 1: So this is where Dave Roberts potentially has to insert

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Speaker 1: as we said, I mean, while they've given up seven hits,

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Speaker 1: mean made it. It was a stylish out. I mean

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Speaker 1: he Uh, it's not. It's not been a great night

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to claim it is, but uh, to

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Speaker 1: this point, you've given up four runs and what you

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Speaker 1: don't want to do is bleed your your bullpen. Right,

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Speaker 1: this was a series that you were hoping to save them.

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Speaker 1: So again, we'll have more on this game as it

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Speaker 1: cause so far, and be honest, right, I know I'm

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Speaker 1: just because because I'm not I don't work for ESPN,

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Speaker 1: to say, oh my goodness, what a friends that you sell?

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Speaker 1: Sell that was the name of the show. I think

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Speaker 1: that sold when a lot of a jag sign. Okay, Yes,

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Speaker 1: NFL start this way. You turn your phone off and say,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna watch these jags in the NBA get

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Speaker 1: it hit me really when JJ Reddick, my buddy, when

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Speaker 1: the NFL and JJ Reddick was making many a year

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Speaker 1: don't look at anything. Yeah, the guaranteed money. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: not like everything's guaranteed. All right, Well, whenever we talk

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Speaker 1: you can't even define. So the Lakers today finally make

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Speaker 1: of problems in Portland, lots of problems with being on time,

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Ayton is a talented twenty six year old who

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Speaker 1: But this is where DeAndre Ayton gets to be a

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Speaker 1: bigger thing because I will tell you right now, the Lakers,

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Speaker 1: as every day goes on, are daring Lebron James to

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Speaker 1: ask for a trade. They are daring him with everything

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Speaker 1: money to spend, I'm staying on. Okay, what else is happening?

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Speaker 1: figure things out. You opted in for fifty two million

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Speaker 1: He was watching the Lakers moves. It's not that the

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Speaker 1: So yeah, they will accommodate him and they will find

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Speaker 1: a way to make that happen. But they are absolutely

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Speaker 1: throwing him out there for a trade because they would

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Speaker 1: But they are daring. That's why they are daring him

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Speaker 1: to ask for a trade. Anybody that makes that trade

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Speaker 1: than than than the Jets do. So there you go.

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Speaker 2: What is gone for him? He does? He really does.

429
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Speaker 1: Maybe if maybe, if Darren Waller had come out of

430
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Speaker 1: retirement to play for US, we'd be able to y off.

431
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Speaker 1: But he did, and he's going to play for Miami.

432
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,160
Speaker 2: Because football is such an easy sport to come back

433
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,679
Speaker 2: from after being away from it.

434
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Speaker 1: I've heard that right back up.

435
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no question, you know, like the physical part

436
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,320
Speaker 2: of it, you know, going through paying again when you

437
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 2: haven't had to go through paying for Yeah, that's all.

438
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,160
Speaker 2: It's really simple, not a problem at all.

439
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 1: So so the obvious question there, J Cole is what

440
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,400
Speaker 1: the hell are they doing in Miami?

441
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 2: Well, I mean this is kind of they're hoping addition

442
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 2: by subtraction because you're getting rid of Ramsey and his

443
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:51,640
Speaker 2: attitude Johnny Smith, John and Smith is actually more important

444
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 2: in this deal for the Steelers than Jalen Ramsey. Now

445
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 2: Ramsey makes all the headlines, but Johnny Smith is important

446
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 2: because he gives them a second tight end. But he

447
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 2: also you know, you have Rogers who loves to throw

448
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 2: the tight end, so you now have another a second

449
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 2: functional guy. I think that this is a really really

450
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,439
Speaker 2: important move for the Steelers on the offensive side. And

451
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 2: they get Ramsey, who's who fits in and plays their

452
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 2: style well enough, and they figured that Tomlin can get

453
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Speaker 2: enough out of him. But I think a lot of

454
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Speaker 2: people missed the headline of who the most important guy

455
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 2: in this deal was for the Steelers as they try

456
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 2: to be more effective in what they're doing. And now

457
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 2: you get you know, he's back with Arthur Smith and

458
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 2: working again. Johnny Smith is working with Arthur Smith again,

459
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Speaker 2: So that that's really good from the Dolphins end, Like

460
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,640
Speaker 2: man fit Patter is a good player, and I don't

461
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,439
Speaker 2: understand what their philosophy is exactly.

462
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Speaker 1: Last night I said, you see, that's you know what

463
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Speaker 1: the show.

464
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Speaker 2: You said Mike Brown a month ago, you said this

465
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Speaker 2: last night. I know you're you're so far ahead of

466
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Speaker 2: the curve on everybody.

467
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Speaker 1: That's the alternate name of the show. The name of

468
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 1: the show is being ahead of the curve. It is true.

469
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Speaker 1: You should listen to it.

470
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Speaker 2: We are ahead of the let's curve your vidiasm on

471
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Speaker 2: this one.

472
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Speaker 1: Hey, he's seventy eight years old today, pal, Yeah, he

473
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Speaker 1: Austin Safarian Jenkins completed the catch. Okay, completed the catch.

474
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Speaker 1: They also killed Carl complete the catch. Come on, you

475
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Speaker 1: see me juggling out of bounds. Okay, sorry, go ahead ahead.

476
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Speaker 2: That was beautiful. I gotta give it to you. No,

477
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't get like the Dolphins. You want

478
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Speaker 2: to play fast on offense, right, that's you know, it's

479
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 2: McDaniel style best. It's it's to his style best. You know,

480
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 2: with the wide receivers they have, they want to play

481
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Speaker 2: up temp I get get all that, right, Jonath Smith.

482
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,199
Speaker 2: You can sort of sacrifice to tight end because you

483
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 2: can get away with a little lesser guy, more of

484
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 2: a move guy, with a way that they want to play.

485
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 2: That's fine, okay, But if you want to play that

486
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 2: kind of up tempo offense, don't you want to play

487
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 2: up tempo defense as well. Try to get as many

488
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Speaker 2: turnovers as you can to feed that offense. Right, Well,

489
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 2: like make a Fitzpatrick not exactly a turnover guys like

490
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 2: that's that's not his area of expertise. So I don't

491
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 2: know how this one really fits from that perspective. I

492
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 2: know that they Chris Greer likes making Fitzpatrick and that

493
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Speaker 2: that's great. He didn't really want to trade him in

494
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Speaker 2: the first place, but mean that they couldn't work out

495
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 2: ideal and they got you know, they got a good

496
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 2: haul for him the first time when they traded him.

497
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Speaker 2: I think this is a fair deal for both sides,

498
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 2: but I don't get it for the Dolphins. That's what

499
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 2: I That's the that's the part where I'm stuck on.

500
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 2: I like, how does Niker Fitzpatrick work combination of offensive

501
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 2: and defensive style?

502
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Speaker 1: It doesn't. I feel like there's there's the Dolphins product

503
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: on the field and what the front office really wants

504
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: to do, and they're not in sync with each other.

505
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: Like they're not a better team that they went out

506
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 1: and got a younger, But feel like they're just dumping salary.

507
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 1: You don't want to pay anybody. We're going to be

508
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 1: starting over after this year. Maybe we trade to be

509
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Speaker 1: a new head coach, all the stuff. But I don't

510
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Speaker 1: know because because what they do just doesn't seem to

511
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Speaker 1: be in synct I just.

512
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Speaker 2: Look, I still think they're playing this one out and

513
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 2: trying and they're trying to win, Okay, I just don't

514
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 2: know that. Like the even under a coach is diod

515
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Speaker 2: As Don Sherlove. I watched this for four years. The

516
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Speaker 2: first four years I covered, you know, the NFL was

517
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five, and I watched this under Don Shula,

518
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 2: and even Don Shiulda didn't get this. They had Dan Marino,

519
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: like the best tempo quarterback could possibly have, right, and

520
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 2: they played Ben but don't break with Tom all of

521
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 2: the DODDI is a defensive coordinator. It's like, that's not

522
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Speaker 2: what you do when you have Dan Marino. When Dan Marino,

523
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 2: You're like, you should be doing all out blitzes all

524
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 2: the time. You should you should be gambling and trying

525
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 2: to get turnovers all the time. You should be trying

526
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 2: to steal extra possessions all the time when you have Marino,

527
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Speaker 2: And it just never worked out. Like, surely you're a

528
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Speaker 2: really smart guy. I mean, you're one of the smart

529
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Speaker 2: guys in the history of football, and you couldn't figure

530
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 2: this out. But he didn't I mean. And so now

531
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Speaker 2: you go up to Mike Tomlin, who's really good coach's

532
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 2: very good coach, as you might say, and he's just

533
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Speaker 2: you know, I mean, or you know, I should say

534
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Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel in this case, a big coach. He just

535
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Speaker 2: went and got a guy who's had foign interceptions in

536
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Speaker 2: his career, uh or four interception tds. He's had one

537
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 2: interception of the left two years. Like this is it

538
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 2: just doesn't It just doesn't. It doesn't work good luck. Yeah,

539
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 2: the math is the math, and this one doesn't work

540
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 2: from that perspective unless they're saying we can turn and

541
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Speaker 2: make a Fitzpatrick loose and change the way he plays,

542
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 2: and that just doesn't seem to make sense.

543
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Speaker 1: All Right, you're a prolific writer, a man of letters

544
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 1: and books. Will you take the Twitter battle about Trevor

545
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Speaker 1: Lawrence to be the subject and the basis for your

546
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: next one?

547
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 2: Can never tell you, guys, the story of Trevor Lawrence

548
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: when he was at the combine? Did I tell that

549
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 2: one about? I remember? Okay, so well, when you talk

550
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 2: to really great athletes and you ask him about situations

551
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: and games, golfers of the best is the way that

552
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: their game. But football players basketball players like when you

553
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: go to Lebron and say, hey, can you tell us

554
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 2: about this you know, three minute stretch here in this

555
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: one play? Inevitably, you know, Peyton Manning is like this.

556
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: You ask him about a play and he will tell

557
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 2: you where all eleven guys were on defense, and I'll

558
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: tell you where all ten other guys for him were

559
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: on offense, and how the play broke down, like he

560
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: can give you a you know, a photographic memory breakdown.

561
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 2: Lebron can do the same thing, like, Okay, I saw

562
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: this guy cutting, but the guy was the defender had

563
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: shaded that direction, so I couldn't throw that back. So

564
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 2: that's why I decided to go with this pass. Every

565
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 2: really truly great athletes do that. So at the combine,

566
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Speaker 2: when Trevor Lawrence is coming in coming out out of

567
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: Clemson's does ask him And it happened more than once

568
00:27:55,359 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 2: all over this play when you threw an interception at Onnson,

569
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 2: can you go through what you were thinking, why did

570
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 2: you do it? What happened? And Trevor Lawrence said, yeah,

571
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 2: I don't really remember that play. Well, what old saying

572
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 2: is that we'll pull the blokes like remember this stuff

573
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 2: and because they were called, they go to that bank

574
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 2: of memory when they're playing the next game because they

575
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,479
Speaker 2: studied it so much and remember so much of it

576
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,239
Speaker 2: and they know exactly they got a snapshot in their

577
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: brain of how it played out before, how it might

578
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 2: be different now from from a look, and how they're

579
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: going to execute in the play. Trevor Lawrence is not

580
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: that kind of guy, at least not yet, and you

581
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: wonder if he will get there. And when you watch

582
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: him play, there's this just do you see the physical ability?

583
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: You see?

584
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 2: You know, ability to move, you ability to throw, He's

585
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: got all of that. You know, it's not anything that's measurable,

586
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: But what it is is in critical situations like he

587
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: just seems lost about what he's trying to do because

588
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: I just don't think that he processes it the same way.

589
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: He doesn't remember it. He doesn't and he's not comfortable

590
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: in these situations. The problem you have when you're that

591
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 2: team is, yeah, A, you got a lot invested in

592
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: him already. B. You can't just give him away and

593
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: give up because he might get it. He might pick

594
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: it up eventually, he might learn how to study and

595
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 2: get the stuff. Now, the odds are not good that

596
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: that's going to happen, because it hasn't happened yet. And

597
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 2: again it's not a matter of work ethic, but because

598
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 2: if you talk to everybody about Trevor larrencest he puts

599
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: in the work, you know, he puts something and you

600
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 2: have to study, he does all these kinds of things.

601
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: It just doesn't he just doesn't remember it. And I

602
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: think that that's what you see in critical moment for him,

603
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: and I'm I just have my doubts. But but I

604
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: think they're trapped. I think that they're trapped into having

605
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 2: to play this one out as long as they possibly came,

606
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: until it until the conclusion is absolutely made. That's that's

607
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: my opinion on Trevor Lawns.

608
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. That is

609
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: at Jason Cole sixty two, thirty thirteen Pro Football Hall

610
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: of Fame voter. I tell you that because that was

611
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: a fantastic take on Trevor Lawrence, my friend, So you

612
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: are you are now a Hall of Fame vote.

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00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: Three weeks ago.

614
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: Now, I tell you what I had to take beforehand.

615
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: That was that was brand new. That's good take it easy, buddy.

616
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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week. The greatness of j Cole.

617
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Speaker 1: Happy forth for Jason Cole.

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00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna find out what's trending right now from Martin Weiss.

620
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Speaker 1: As Clayton Kershaw is on the mound for the top

621
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Speaker 1: of the sixth inning. There is one out, first pitch,

622
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: ground out to first. He is one strikeout away from

623
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Speaker 1: three thousand. The Dodgers also trail four to two, and

624
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: he is nearing ninety five pitches, so we'll see how

625
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: it goes. M up.

626
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,719
Speaker 4: What are the details, Well, you've taken just about all

627
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 4: of the details except for the Dodgers do have Travino

628
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 4: lawing up in the in the bullpen right now, or

629
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 4: he was at least, so they are, you know, getting

630
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 4: ready to pull Kershaw. But it looks like Dave Roberts

631
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 4: wants him to get this strikeout here if he can.

632
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 4: But elsewhere in Major League Baseball, we have the top

633
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 4: of the seventh inning, the Royals and the Mariners one apiece.

634
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 4: Bottom of the seventh, the Giants have a three to

635
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 4: two lead over the Diamondbacks, and again the final game

636
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 4: going White Sox and Dodgers four to two. Top of

637
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 4: the sixth. Then and you just heard a Jason run

638
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 4: through a lot of it. But you have Kershl right

639
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 4: now with five and one third d He's pitched eight hits,

640
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 4: giving up four runs, all of them earned. He's walked one,

641
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 4: struck out two looking for that elusive third one for

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00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 4: three thousand. As he gives up a single, He's also

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Speaker 4: a given up a home run. Tonight elsewhere in Major

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Speaker 4: League Baseball, the starting lineups were announced show Hey Otani

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Speaker 4: and Aaron Judges, the two leading vote getters starting lines for.

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Speaker 1: The All Star Game.

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Speaker 4: Tigers lead the All Star American League with three starters

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Speaker 4: in the starting lineup. Basement second basement Glabor Torres and

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Speaker 4: outfielders Riley Green and Hobby Baiez are the three. The

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Speaker 4: Dodgers lead the National League with three as well. First

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Speaker 4: baseman Freddie Freeman and catcher Will Smith will join Otani

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Speaker 4: Otani just dhing he will not pitch. Home run leader

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Speaker 4: catcher Kyle Rowley from the Mariners is making his first

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Speaker 4: All Star Game and raised rookie shortstop Jacob Wilson the

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Speaker 4: only rookie to make it. He's the second rookie ever

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Speaker 4: at shortstop to start the game in the NBA, The

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Speaker 4: Knicks hired Micah Browns be their new head coach. The

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Speaker 4: Lakers expected to sign free agent center Joan dre Eight

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Speaker 4: into a two year deal. The Memphis Grizzlies say they'll

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Speaker 4: evaluate All star Jaron Jackson Junior's toe in twelve weeks

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Speaker 4: following turf toe surgery.

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Speaker 2: Injury was reported yesterday.

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Speaker 4: The Athletic Reports of the Warriors, Lakers, and Celtics reached

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Speaker 4: out to free agent guard Damian Lillard. He was now

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Speaker 4: a free agent after being waived by Milwaukee. The Hornets

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Speaker 4: science mentioned Dinwiddie to a one year deal. In Wimbledon,

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Speaker 4: second te Carlos Alcarez won of straight sets well. Twelfth

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Speaker 4: seeded American Francis Tiafo lost in four sets, and second

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Speaker 4: round play. Fifth seed American Taylor Fritz won in five sets,

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Speaker 4: and the Ladies draw top seed Arena Sabalankas onto the

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Speaker 4: third round. She's the only top five seat to advance

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Speaker 4: that far so far this year. Fifth seed Madison Keys

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Speaker 4: and Miami Osaka also run there also won their second

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Speaker 4: round matches. Max Mounsey looks like he's in a world

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Speaker 4: of pain right now. On the defensive side. Of things

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Speaker 4: right now. The count one to zero with two out

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Speaker 4: in the top of the sixth ending Clayton Kershaw still

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Speaker 4: one strikeout away from three thousand, as they take a

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Speaker 4: look at Max Munsey's left knee on as he's down

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Speaker 4: in the infield.

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Speaker 1: Back to you guys, thanks a bunch, Martin. So he

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Speaker 1: gives up a double to start the top of the

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Speaker 1: sixth inning, Kershaw or for the second bat in the

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Speaker 1: top of the sinning, Kershaw's beginning hit incredibly hard since

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Speaker 1: the top of the first inning gives up a double

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Speaker 1: and on a stolen base attempt, Max Munsey makes the

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Speaker 1: tag out. It's a throwout to third. Will Smith gets

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Speaker 1: a good throw down to Munseie, but an awkward tag

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Speaker 1: in which the runner slides into Muncie. He goes down

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Speaker 1: is in a world of pain. He has been helped

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Speaker 1: off the field. He did not leave the field under

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Speaker 1: his own power. He had a person on either side

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Speaker 1: of him. Didn't look like he could put a lot

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Speaker 1: of pressure on his left leg. They looked at his

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Speaker 1: knee again. This coul This goes from Hey, Clayton Kershaw,

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Speaker 1: three thousand. Hey, we got to win this game. Now

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Speaker 1: you're worried about Max Munsey and what his status might

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Speaker 1: be after that caught stealing attempt at third base. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: to this point there had been no replay on the telecast.

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Speaker 1: It's starting to make its way through socials. The hard

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Speaker 1: slide into the bag and just an unfortunate collide. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean OCAs he went to slap the tag and

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Speaker 1: key k a her Nana is coming out to play

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Speaker 1: third base now. But see, you know, only seeing it once,

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Speaker 1: it looked like it would the throwers a little off

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Speaker 1: the base, Mike throw inside. Michael Taylor tries, you know,

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Speaker 1: as a as an aggressive slide into third and maybe

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Speaker 1: Monsey gets run into. Maybe Monsey trips. It's hard to

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Speaker 1: tell because again we haven't seen the replay yet. Kershaw

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Speaker 1: is taking some uh uh warm up pitches right now,

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Speaker 1: is to get back in the in the swing of things.

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Speaker 1: With two outs here in the top of the sixth inning, again,

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Speaker 1: White Sox lead the Dodgers four to two. So we'll

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Speaker 1: keep you updated on Kershaw and Max Munts, who again

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Speaker 1: left the field had to be helped off the field,

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Speaker 1: could not put pressure on his left leg after that

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Speaker 1: stolen base attempt. Again, Michael Taylor thrown out on the play.

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Speaker 1: But uh, this is where we sit right now, so

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Speaker 1: we'll have more on this coming up next. Maybe Clayton

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Speaker 1: Kershaw gets that elusive K. But straight ahead, boy, a

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Speaker 1: huge NBA retire ron fake account got some big time

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Speaker 1: people today on social media. Woo. That's next Jason and

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Speaker 1: Mike Fox. Be sure to catch live editions of The

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Speaker 1: Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,

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Speaker 1: seven pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show

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Speaker 1: with my best friend Mike Harmon. We will get to

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Speaker 1: that fake retirement story that got a lot of people

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Speaker 1: today coming up in a second. That's a good one.

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Speaker 1: We just saw absolute history in Major League Baseball. Clayton

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Speaker 1: Kershaw gets strikeout number three thousand, the final out of

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Speaker 1: the sixth inning. Strikes out Vinnie Capra, looking at quintessential.

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Speaker 1: Here comes outside part of the plate, you know, the

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Speaker 1: curve that he's thrown his entire career. Here comes and

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Speaker 1: right on the outside part of the plate, strikeout, looking

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Speaker 1: Dave Roberts's out of the dugout. There was about a

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Speaker 1: five or six minute pause in the game where Kershaw

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Speaker 1: got congratulations from his teammates. He waved to the crowd,

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Speaker 1: the twentieth person in Major League Baseball history to get

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Speaker 1: to three thousand strikeouts. We sow it just moments ago

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Speaker 1: and exactly the way Kershaw would have wanted it, as

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Speaker 1: in it ended an inning, So it was a natural

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Speaker 1: pause in the game to have the celebration, the doffing

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Speaker 1: of the cap whatever. It wasn't a hey, i've got

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00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: a runner on second that I still need to contend with. Everybody,

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Speaker 1: sit down and shut up. I want to continue going

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Speaker 1: to work. No, it was his one hundredth pitch of

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Speaker 1: the night. Dave Roberts, the number of cutaways they did,

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Speaker 1: they might as well have done a picture and picture

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Speaker 1: for that half of the inning, because it became the

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Speaker 1: I don't really want to go get him. I want

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Speaker 1: to give him every opportunity to get this milestone because

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Speaker 1: he didn't want to be I mean, we've seen Dave

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00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: so many times with a young pitcher and some of

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00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,959
Speaker 1: the veterans where it's like, damnit, he's got a no hitter,

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00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: but he's at eighty five eighty seven pitches. We want

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Speaker 1: to win this game, and that's where you're kind of

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00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: at with Kershaw.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 1: You get the big throwout. We'll keep an eye on Muncie,

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Speaker 1: but you got that big throwout an attempted steeler for

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Speaker 1: the second out. So it's like, all right, can we

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Speaker 1: get him through this inning? Give him one more shot

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Speaker 1: and keep the lead where it is for the White Sox,

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Speaker 1: and Kershaw gets capra journeying in hitting a buck twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: This will be his big moment because forever he'll be

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Speaker 1: able to sign photos as the guy that was the

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Speaker 1: three thousandth victim. Yeah, Clayton Kershaw, Can I see that

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Speaker 1: look on you disagreeing with the call on the outside

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Speaker 1: part of the play. Can we sign that for me?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Sure, no problem, No, no, no, it's just gonna be

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Speaker 1: the Kershaw fist bumped. That'll be fifty dollars. I mean,

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Speaker 1: just think about it, like like he gets it. Obviously.

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Speaker 1: You want it to be in a game where the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers wanted to be a game where they're winning, where

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Speaker 1: it's you know, they're in control of this, but they're

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Speaker 1: losing four two to the White Sox. But individually for

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Speaker 1: Kershaw again, his last batter of the game, pitch number

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Speaker 1: one hundred on his signature pitch to end the inning,

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Speaker 1: I mean all the poetry, that's exactly how you would

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Speaker 1: want to line it up. The only way is better

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Speaker 1: is if, hey, it's the final out of the game,

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Speaker 1: the ninth inning, the Dodgers win. It's a perfect game.

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Speaker 1: And when it won nothing all right, you made Billy

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Speaker 1: Chapel alone. But you get most of it here. Hey,

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Speaker 1: John c Riley could have caught that. And then Skull

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Speaker 1: was on the call of that one day. And oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, Hey, I gotta say, this phenomenal job

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Speaker 1: of Will Smith framing that pitch was dicey. That was

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Speaker 1: not something that was Hey, you could see it right away.

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Speaker 1: This was on the outside corner, right on the edge

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Speaker 1: of the box, and it was a called strike three.

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Speaker 1: I want to go back to var uh see you

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Speaker 1: know was it on you know if we overlay it? No,

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Speaker 1: uh all in you knew me, maybe you'd have a

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Speaker 1: little bit of the zone and that's where it was.

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Speaker 1: I gotta think really frustrating for Kershaw with his placement

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Speaker 1: of pitches all day long. Of you were probably going

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Speaker 1: to get a generous side to side if you were

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Speaker 1: working it. He was leaving everything over the middle to

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Speaker 1: get hit. It hit hard like the old rule of thumb, though,

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Speaker 1: hit them where they ain't, which the White Sox, while

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Speaker 1: they do have the four to two lead based on

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Speaker 1: the balls put into play, could have been a lot worse.

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Speaker 1: So the fact that you're still within striking distance right now,

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Speaker 1: one out runners on first and third year bottom of six.

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Speaker 1: But you know you also want to do it at home,

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Speaker 1: and you start looking at the schedule ahead. I guess

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Speaker 1: you would add another start against the Brewers at home

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Speaker 1: before they hit the next road trip. But you also

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Speaker 1: don't want it hanging in the balance, right you want

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Speaker 1: to do Look everybody's there tonight. Look his family has

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Speaker 1: had they keep cutting away to all the luminaries. That's

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Speaker 1: probably why Dave Roberts put him back out there for

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Speaker 1: the six. It's like, look everybody's here. Oh he doesn't

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00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: want to be that guy, and it's not seven to

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Speaker 1: two sixth okay. And we've seen them punt many games,

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Speaker 1: Not that you want to do that, not that Kershaw

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Speaker 1: would ever want them to do that, but how many

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Speaker 1: how many opener games have we seen? Hasn't Key k

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Speaker 1: Hernandez pitched in like eight games ready this year or

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Speaker 1: something like that? Absolute history Clayton Kershaw strikeout number three thousand.

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Speaker 1: The Dodgers again trail the White Sox four to two,

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Speaker 1: but three k for Kershaw. Coming up next, we'll have

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Speaker 1: more on this breaking story. Plus, hey, there's actually somebody

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Speaker 1: who had a better knight than Kershaw. Believe it. Whoa

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Speaker 1: Fox