1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: They described this draft as a draft full of doubles, 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: but that Trayvon Walker is the home run swim. Welcome 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: to Jaguars Reporters presented by t I A A Bank 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: with Brian Sexton, John Osher, Ashlyn Sullivan, and J P. Shagray. 5 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: Jaguars Reporters presented by t I A A Bank starts 6 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: right now. Welcome into the Jaguars Reporters podcast. It's Monday, April. 7 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Ashland Sullivan, Brian Sexton, John Osier, and 8 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: thank you for listening on Jaguars dot Com on the 9 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: podcast tab on the home page, or on the Official 10 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: Jaguars podcast network, on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Spotify, 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: or wherever you download your podcasts. We love feedback, don't 12 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: we Yes, no, yes, yes we do feedback. Leave us 13 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: a comment and a five star rating. Alright, so Draft 14 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: week is here. Who's ready? I certainly am. It's Monday. Yeah, 15 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: I'm ready. I mean, it's you have no choice but 16 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: to be ready at this point. But it's, uh, you know, 17 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: it feels in some ways. Draft always feels to me 18 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: like it races up on you, but at the same time, 19 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: it takes forever to get there. Because you wait so 20 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: long for it, and then all of a sudden on 21 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: draft weets here and Sexon is going to Vegas and 22 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: rolling the dice, and yeah, because that's and coming back 23 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: with a pick um. I guess I'll feel that way 24 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: when I get to the hotel. You know, I'm staying 25 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: at Bellagio where that um where that the NFL is, 26 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: And apparently the fountain has been taken over by the stage. 27 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: So I think maybe I'll feel like, you know, I'm 28 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: ready for it when we get there. Um. I wish 29 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: they'd move this thing up. I wish they do it 30 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: in March. It just seems just drag in April week, 31 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: it just feels like there's a lot going on forever, 32 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: and listening to guys, teams have been ready to pick. 33 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I know they did their song and dance 34 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: last week, but they're still going through it. Well that's 35 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: because you're sitting at the top of the draft. But 36 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: they've got a favorite, they've got somebody. The team's just 37 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: they're ready, let's go. You could easily do it quicker. 38 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: I don't think they ever will, though they've got the 39 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: schedule and and they own the entire sporting year. Everybody 40 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: covers it and salivates over it, and it's it's fine 41 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: television ratings. Yes, people watch this, and they watched the 42 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: build up to it and the reaction to it, and 43 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: on and on and on. There's no way it'll ever change. 44 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: And here's what's funny. If you had if you told 45 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:40,399 Speaker 1: a sports fan in nineteen seventy, just pick out a year, Hey, 46 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna be watching the draft. There's gonna be a 47 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: team in Vegas, and the Draft is going to be 48 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: in Vegas. People look like like you're from Mars. The 49 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: draft didn't exist in terms of sporting conscious the NFL 50 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't touch Vegas. And now all of a sudden, it's funny. 51 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: I watched over the weekend of one of the NFL 52 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: network shows on the eight three draft, and I think 53 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: that was one of the first ones fans actually came into, 54 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: is that the sheared in New York and that was 55 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: the big quarterback traft and there's hooting and holler and 56 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: from these stands and upstairs it was still on cars, 57 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: people are like, and it was still on cards until 58 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: like two thousand. I mean, it's not all that new. 59 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: And I think we talked about this last week on Drivetime. 60 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: If if you want to see what it was, go 61 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: go and and go to YouTube and find ESPN's first 62 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: draft broadcast. Right of the commissioners standing in front of 63 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: basically a chalkboard, right, you know what, they're putting names 64 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: in it, And people thought, who's going to watch this? 65 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: But who would have ever thought that guys running around 66 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: in shorts and T shirts in Indianapolis would outpace the 67 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: NBA playoffs? And yet it does. Roselle thought the networks 68 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: for nuts, but they didn't want to tell the draft. 69 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: And he may be the most forward thinking commissioner of 70 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: all time. So just shows. Let's hear some of the 71 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: song and dance from Friday, the pre draft media luncheon, 72 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: Trent Key, Doug Peterson. Will hear from Peterson coming up 73 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: in a little bit. Let's start with the GM though 74 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: they said they're down to four prospects being considered at 75 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: number one overall, a much different feel from last year, 76 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: but they still have to put in the work. Yeah. 77 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: I think you go into every year though even last year, 78 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: you go in, you do it, You do your due diligence, 79 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: you work hard, you you bring in all the information, 80 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: gather as many facts as you can put it together 81 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: and make decisions off of those. But you know, there's 82 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: so much that goes into these decisions that you know, 83 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: it's not just the film, it's it's all the other 84 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: things that go into that guy having success or not 85 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: having success. Most of the time, they don't fail because 86 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: they're not physically gifted. They fail for other reasons. So 87 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: making sure that we've done all of our due diligence 88 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: in those areas is critical to the decision making process 89 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: that's bulky on Friday, And the general consensus is the 90 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: Big four would be Neil, A. Kwantue, Walker, and Hutchinson. 91 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: I guess that's fair, right as Yeah, I didn't say it, 92 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: but we all just in the room not at our heads, 93 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: and said, okay, we know who the four are. Well, 94 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: let's just say that Walkers not just for argument's sake, 95 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: Let's just say that Walker is all a big smoke screen. 96 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: Who would the fourth peak? Who's in other words, who's 97 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: the fifth? Who's that next name is there? You could 98 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: go so many different directions of that fifth. Yeah, yeah, 99 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: I can't. I mean, and the one that would stand 100 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: out would be Thibodeau. I don't think he's a factor 101 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: for him. You've heard nothing about him here, Yeah, and so, 102 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: but we didn't hear about Blake Bord either. Well, yeah, 103 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: to say the least. I mean, I don't know that 104 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: there is possibly an outsider like a sauce Gardener, right, 105 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: I don't know that that exists. But for the purpose 106 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: of a draft that goes all the way to the 107 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: end of the April, it's conversation, who would that other 108 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: name be if it wasn't Walker. I can't imagine them 109 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 1: taking a cornerback at that position of the sauce gardener. 110 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: I would love to cover that name for four um. 111 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: Because we talked about the sun huddle up that of 112 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: the cornerback value is changing a little bit. I wouldn't 113 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: take a corner or a safety in the first round 114 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: probably ever, again, just because of the way the rules 115 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: have diminished the ability of that position to impact the game. 116 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: I still go back to if there would have been 117 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: a wide receiver this year who was even in like 118 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: that top four or five conversation, I still wonder if 119 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: he might not have been worthy the number one pick. Well, 120 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: then then let's introduce it just another what if if 121 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: Jamison Williams hadn't hurt his knee in the in the 122 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, would he be that guy? I don't 123 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: know if he's because I've heard his name talked about 124 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: it like ten for the Jets. Who can't pass on 125 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: that kind of talent. And I saw a couple of 126 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: draft analysts who have you know, wide receivers in the 127 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: top four or five or six. I don't think it'll 128 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: sneak up to be in a one possibility. But had 129 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: there been a Jamar Chase who last year everybody knew 130 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: was special and to maybe be top five in this 131 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: draft with this team situation there, you do wonder, right 132 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: you would have raised eyebrows at at Jamar Chase being 133 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: not taking number one overall last year, even without a 134 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: quarterback situation anywody. But the way he played, the way 135 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: he impacted, I think it's gonna happen at some point. 136 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: I don't think it can happen this year. Oh but 137 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: you saw the video of Jamison Williams doing workouts over 138 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: the weekend, As representatives put it out, he's walking over hurdles, 139 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: doing short sprints. Certainly was a coincidence that that video 140 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: point out this weekend. I think I think he's gonna 141 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: end up in the top ten because I think people 142 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: are souring on Drake. London isn't fast. Traylon Burke's is 143 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: short of a hybrid um and the A C L 144 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: is so, I mean, there was any other injury, but 145 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: it just seems like he's recovered so much from an ACL, 146 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: such a popular injury at this point, Chris loves get 147 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: well again. I'm talking about about people going twenty five 148 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: years ago talking about, you know, the draft on TV 149 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: in Vegas and and and the fact that somebody would say, oh, yeah, 150 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: the A C is not a big deal in it 151 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: because you know, back in the day when this franchise 152 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: was just getting off the ground, that was train tracks. 153 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that was that was a major injury to 154 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: overcome JP. If I can just introduce this thought um 155 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: in talking to people, and I forget exactly who said it, 156 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: they described this draft as a draft full of doubles. Right, 157 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys where you can hit a double, 158 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: a good solid connect and get a guy that will 159 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: be a really good player for you. But that Travon 160 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: Walker is the home run swing. He's the guy where 161 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: you can get over the top. If he is what 162 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: they think he is. And if you're coaching staff, if 163 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: Brentton Buckner is that coach, this guy is the home 164 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: run swing in the draft. I thought that was an 165 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: interesting the possibility to whiff on the home run. So well, 166 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: you always do. I mean, what would Babe Ruth hit? 167 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: I mean baseball guy, I mean run, right, But I 168 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: mean how many times did he strike out? I mean 169 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: three out of four something like? Yeah, yeah he hit, 170 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: he hit seven hundred plus home runs, but he struck 171 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: out three or four times. Yeah, that's that's what a 172 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: home run swing is. Yeah, that's the hesitations. Let's hear 173 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: more from Trent Bulky on a couple of these guys 174 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: at the top, including Trayvon Walker from Georgia and Aiden 175 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: Hutchinson from Michigan. What do these guys bring to the table. 176 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: I think when you look at both those players, they're 177 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: both productive in their own way, used differently, right, They're 178 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: totally different schemes, used differently within those schemes. So you 179 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: just gotta again, you're looking at them, You're looking at 180 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: how they made their plays, how they were used, and 181 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 1: then you have a vision for how you can use them. 182 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: So all of that plays apart, but trades are important. 183 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: Production is important. You weigh at all, weigh at all, John, 184 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: you weigh at all. Yeah, you have to, and it's yeah, 185 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 1: I uh. I guess with the whole Walker Hutchinson thing, 186 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: I don't know how much more there is to say, 187 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: because it's right at that point in the draft where 188 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: it's been said already. Um, if they go after Walker, 189 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: it's the home run swing. If they go after Hutchinson, 190 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: it's it's the perceived safe selection. But you also go 191 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: back to and what Brian said in the draft, there 192 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: is no real safe swing. So you're taking a chance 193 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: on some level on everybody because you don't know how 194 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: they're going to translate. So I don't know which why 195 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: they're gonna pay. I would take Hutchinson because I'm I'm 196 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: I'm the safe guy. I don't, unlike Brian is going 197 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: to be in the casinos this weekend. I don't like 198 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: losing money, So I'm I'm that guy. Let me gamble. 199 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: I I think the safest player in the draft is 200 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: the guard Quando. I think he's the guy who has 201 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: that ability to separate and be I call him a guard. 202 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: He's a tackle at North Carolina State. I think he's 203 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: Quittin Nelson. And if he's Quitton Nelson, he's super special. 204 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: I think he's the safest pick in the draft. Very true. 205 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: And I don't think it was a coincidence that Bulky 206 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: at the end of his press conference it was the 207 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: most awesome quote that this is the last time he 208 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: will have the number one overall pick. That's something he's 209 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: gonna have his mind on. I mean, this is and 210 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: you talk about a safe choice, fun Bulky, and I 211 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: want to keep my job a safe choice. Yeah, do 212 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: you need a safe choice? You need a home run swing. 213 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: I could see both sides. I would think if if 214 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 1: my job is on the line, which it's not at 215 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: this point, but with Bulky saying that at the end 216 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: of the draft press conference, I would go the smart choice. Yeah, 217 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: you gotta have a guy that can play. But this 218 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: is the intrigue that never ends. GM's don't want to 219 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: miss at the end of the day. Uh So. I 220 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: don't know how Trent feels philosophic about this, but a 221 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: lot of GM they would rather have a double. Yeah, 222 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: there's run, and I think you can hit a double 223 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: with three of those four guys. I think both the 224 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: tackles and Hutcheson are really good players, and I think 225 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: Walker it's gonna be a good player. The question is 226 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: better than those other guys started for one year. So 227 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: let's see and the pass rush move then, I mean, 228 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: I mean the book is that Hutchinson's a pass rusher, 229 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: has the move, has a and Walker still needs to 230 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: learn how to pass rush. Uh. That can scare NFL 231 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: people because either you're a sack guy or not. There 232 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: are people who think if you don't have double sacks 233 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: in college, it wouldn't matter what level you're at, it's 234 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: gonna be hard to get that in the pros because 235 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: you gotta learn to do it not being refined. That 236 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: does scare people. One of thing real quick, Aidan Hutchinson 237 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: really had one great year also, it was spectacular and 238 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: so people remember that. But he missed the season before 239 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: with a broken ankle. Yeah, so it wasn't as if 240 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: he's done this for three complete years. But Jaguars are 241 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: future focused and ready for a new look in to 242 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: join us at the bank this season as head coach 243 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson quarterback Trevor Lawrence lead the charge block in 244 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: your seats, Jack wars dot Com Slash tickets were called 245 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: nine oh four six three three two thousand. Speaking of 246 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, will hear from the Jaguars head coach and yes, 247 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: the coaching stats on the field with players this week 248 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: for the first time. We'll explain after this Welcome back 249 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: to the Jaguars Reporters podcast. The Jaguars will host the 250 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: two douvall Draft Party presented by Baptist Health. It's this 251 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: Thursday at six o'clock at Daily's Place, Live draft analysis, 252 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: much more. Doug Peterson will be there, Select Jaguars players 253 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: Ashland Sullivan will be there stick around for the draft. 254 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: Of course, our live analysis on Jaguars dot Com after 255 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: the first round pick will be in the bullet Daily's 256 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: registered for tickets now Jaguars dot Com slash Official Draft Party, Ashland. 257 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: You asked Doug Peterson about his excitement for Thursday night 258 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: at Daily's Place. A lot coming up this week for 259 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: the Jags head coach. Next week is gonna be exciting 260 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: in a lot of different aspects because it would be 261 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 1: the first time that our players, um you know, with 262 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: the off season program, we get to actually go on 263 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: the field and and do some field activities next week 264 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: with our current roster, and then of course the draft 265 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: is right on the heels of that. And and then 266 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: get a chance to you know, see our fans and 267 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: interact with our fans and and you know see the 268 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: enthusiasm excitement that they have, uh for our team moving 269 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: forward in two and and so for me, you know, 270 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: we just kind of it's it's almost like a game 271 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: day scenario where you kind of feed off of the 272 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: enthusiasm and the emotion of the crowd. So there you 273 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: have it. Actually, I think this will be Peterson's first 274 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: appearance in front of fans on the stage as the 275 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: JAG's head coach. Of him. He's had a couple here 276 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: they're gathering, but yeah, this is the big, the big moment, 277 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: if you will. So I can imagine he's excited. It's 278 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: a big week. It's a big statement week. So we're 279 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: looking forward to it. I keep meeting people who have 280 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: met him on the community and and all they say 281 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: is he seems like a regular guy. He is he 282 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: is now he is, and I think people are gonna 283 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: that's just gonna come shining through. There's not a lot 284 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: of this celebrity nonsense that we had with the other guy. 285 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: The other part of that is it's phase two of 286 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: the off season program, so the coaches can be on 287 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: the field with players. There's still no helmets, they can't 288 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: do one on one stuff. Um you know that they're 289 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: basically doing warm up stretch type things, but they're doing 290 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: stuff now. Yeah. I think to get the image of 291 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson on the field with players for the first 292 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: time as another notable thing this week. It won't get 293 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: the coverage that normally would get because of the draft 294 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: this week, which I think that's always interesting how they 295 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: have it the same week. But yeah, to have that 296 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: image of Trevor and Doug on the field in a 297 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: football environment is notable. Phase two is a step forward 298 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: from Phase one. JP the truth. Yeah, that's the next 299 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: in line. Really, it is the next step. John loves 300 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: this this phase. He's all about the off seasons. It's 301 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: it's just so difficult to analyze or have anything intelligent 302 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: to say about at this point because it is what 303 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: it is, and how how often will you reference it 304 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: Once you get to training camps you won't reference it 305 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: at all. No, you won't go back. And you remember 306 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: that O t a practice where he can't ball, right, 307 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you just won't. It's just it lives in 308 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: its own little space and time and otherwise we will 309 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: analyze it. Yeah, the phase three, buddy, another step. Why 310 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: is that is that when it's open to the media. 311 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I have no idea 312 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: how it's different. No, it's it Phase two's I mean. 313 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: Phase three is O T A S. Which is actual 314 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: balls in the air and you're throwing and there is 315 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: at least a semblance of running place. So that will 316 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: be interesting. And there's all ten of them. You got 317 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: the two that they were, they had back, they got 318 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: them back. They got back. So got that going, which 319 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: is nice. Hey you're going to Vegas, Yep, Bellagio that's uh, 320 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: that's the NFL Hotel and that's you know, people who 321 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: have been on the strip, they've seen that fountain and 322 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: the stage is set up in the fountain. You can 323 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: google and see photos of it right now. It's um. 324 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: I think I've said this before. I thought Chicago did 325 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: a great job in Grant Park um and Philadelphia on 326 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: the Parkway at the at the Museum of Art, they 327 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: did a fantastic job. It was so much fun in Philly. 328 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: I didn't really care for Dallas because it was so 329 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: spread out. Um, but I thought that Nashville did an 330 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: amazing job on Broadway. Um. I thought if you could 331 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: put it in Nashville every year, I would think it 332 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: would take it. Put it in Nashville, because I think 333 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: Vegas is going to be over the top. I just 334 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: don't even know what to expect. Yeah, I could see 335 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: it similar to Tallas, where it's it's very spread out 336 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: and large, and it's an easy airport for people to 337 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: get to from. I mean, I just think it's gonna 338 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: be flooded. The quaint days in Las Vegas are long 339 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: since over, and it once it's been in Vegas, you know, 340 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 1: next year it's going to Kansas City. And then then 341 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: where's it going? Is it going to Detroit? Yes? Detroit. 342 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: I mean it's they're using it like the super Bowl. 343 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: They're moving it around and they're leveraging it in markets 344 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: to get stadium improvements and things that they want. How 345 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: long until it goes to Los Angeles? I mean it's 346 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: that's got to be the next one right along until 347 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: it comes to Jacksonville. There's got to be some development 348 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: around here. Well that's starting. Yeah, you could see it eventually. 349 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: And Shot has talked about the Draft way back when 350 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: he talked about the Draft as a possibility as opposed 351 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl because the hotel situation he didn't 352 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: think would lend itself a super Bowl, but Draft for 353 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: one night conceivably could one of years from now, we'll 354 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: be talking about it. Well, you wonder when he said 355 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: that it made a lot of sense now, I think 356 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 1: Downtown again has some growing to do to get there 357 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: because the Draft is become so much bigger than a game. 358 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: But even thought it would when first you've out of 359 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: New York, when it was in Chicago, I thought, yeah, 360 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: the Jackson that this could happen in Jacksonville at the 361 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: Downtown Vision because that's when they started talking about the shipyards. 362 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: By the time it got to Nashville, I was like, wow, 363 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: I mean this is a big production. And then I 364 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: mean Vegas is going to make it. It's Vegas and 365 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: you start it into the hotel issue. So I have 366 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: to live up to for sure in the years ahead. 367 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: Coming up this week, We'll Love the Huddle Up Podcast 368 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: Tuesday tomorrow with Bucky Brooks joining us. Bucky will be 369 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: in the building starting Thursday with our coverage on Jaguars 370 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: dot com drivetime Wednesday. Actually, yes, we're shaking it up 371 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,719 Speaker 1: and Brian will be live from Las Vegas. Yes, alright, 372 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: it'll be bright and early and guys were doing at 373 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: eleven o eleven eleven o'clock start. Okay, that's on Wednesday, 374 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: and then Thursday Draft Day, busy seven o'clock radio show 375 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: in tinton Xel until midnight seven thirty pre draft show 376 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,239 Speaker 1: on Jaguars dot com, Live analysis after the pick on 377 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: the team site and the Jaguars social channels Twitter, Facebook, 378 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: and YouTube. John, you look so excited and ready to roll. 379 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: I mean paper closing who you got? Who? I mean, 380 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: how do you think they're taking JP? I'm gonna stick 381 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: with Hutchinson even though there's some more mocks today. Peter 382 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 1: King pick Trayvon Walker. I mean, you know you hear 383 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: the Talkey likes Walker. I never know how much all 384 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: that means. I still in those moments leading up to like, 385 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys felt this last year, 386 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: but even right before the Trevor pick, you're like, is 387 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: it really okay? It is? There's always that little thing 388 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: of what if they didn't do it this year. The 389 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: intrigue at number one is gonna be fascinating unless some 390 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: report comes out in the next couple of days. But 391 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, when it comes in, 392 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: if it's not Hutchinson, I'll still be surprised, Okay, and 393 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: I'll go the opposite way because remember when Doug Peterson 394 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: got hired, he said this is not a one year fix, 395 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: and so I think the offensive line Cam has not 396 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: signed a long term deal. He did sign his tender. Um. 397 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: I think that's the offensive lineman. Because there will be 398 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: pass rushers. There will be pass rushers at the top 399 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: of the second round. There will be a player there, 400 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: whether it's the kid from Purdue or whether the kid 401 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: from Penn State. There will be a path stress you're there. 402 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: And what's the difference between Aidan Hutchinson and the kid 403 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: from Penn Staid to the kid from Purdue. I don't 404 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: know that's got But I say they're gonna take a 405 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: Kuanu with the first overall pick because it is not 406 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: just about this year. It's about the foreseeable future and 407 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: the offensive line still needs to be fortified. I still 408 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: think it's hutch Walker, Kwan O'Neil. It's still the order chance, 409 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: but I like it. I'm just making it. I'm making 410 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: the pace for something different. That's all makes sense. So 411 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: you have it. Our picks are in the draft coming 412 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: up this week. Thank you for listening on Jaguars. Come 413 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: on the podcast to have on the homepage or the 414 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: official Jaguars Podcast network. For Ashlan Sullivan, John Oshan, Brian Sexton, 415 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: and Joe Portnado, I'm J. P. Shadrick. We'll catch you 416 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: next time on the Jaguars Reporters podcast