Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with
Speaker 1: me Tommy di Dario. It is officially the week of Love. Yes,
Speaker 1: whether you hate it, whether you love it. Valentine's Day,
Speaker 1: it's approaching. But here's something that I know for sure
Speaker 1: you will love, and that's the new romantic comedy horror
Speaker 1: film Heart Eyes. My guest today is the wonderfully talented
Speaker 1: actress Olivia Hall, who stars in this incredible film opposite
Speaker 1: Mason Gooding, who I had on my show last week
Speaker 1: and was a total gem. Okay, So Olivia, She's quickly
Speaker 1: rising to the top as part of Hollywood's next generation.
Speaker 1: You know and you love her from the hit show
Speaker 1: Cruel Summer and from Marvel's Cloak and Dagger. She also
Speaker 1: started opposite Kuran and Shipka in the film Totally Killer.
Speaker 1: Oh and she made her Broadway debut as Roxy Heart
Speaker 1: in Chicago Casual. Plus he is such a gifted singer
Speaker 1: and her EP titled Olivia debut in the top twenty
Speaker 1: on Billboard's New Artist Chart. But let's get back to
Speaker 1: Hard Eyes, because Olivia is such a badass in this movie.
Speaker 1: The main goal is to stay alive on the most
Speaker 1: romantic day of right, how hard can that be? The
Speaker 1: mass killer targets couples, and Olivia's character finds herself as
Speaker 1: the latest victim. But what's so unique and fun about
Speaker 1: this movie is, yes, you have all of the jump
Speaker 1: scares that you crave and want in horror, but there
Speaker 1: are also really tender and sweet and comedic moments, ones
Speaker 1: that you find in your favorite rom coms. So at
Speaker 1: the very least, if you aren't a big Valentine's Day fan,
Speaker 1: well perhaps this movie will give you a reason to
Speaker 1: look forward to that holiday every single year. So let's
Speaker 1: see if today we can get Olivia to say something
Speaker 1: that she has never said before. Olivia Hall, how are you,
Speaker 1: my friend?
Speaker 2: I'm good?
Speaker 1: You're good. Are you feeling alive? I know you've been
Speaker 1: busy on a whirlwind.
Speaker 2: I actually feel really good. I don't feel jet lagged yet.
Speaker 3: I feel like normally that hits me when I finally
Speaker 3: have like settled into my space and at home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel good. I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 1: Well, what an exciting time for you right now? I
Speaker 1: saw the movie. I love the movie. We're going to
Speaker 1: talk all about it. I am such a big horror fan,
Speaker 1: so I had high expectations going to this film, and
Speaker 1: they were exceeded. I will say I thought it was
Speaker 1: absolutely fantastic. But to start, I was doing a little
Speaker 1: perusing on your Instagram and I saw you got a tattoo?
Speaker 1: Was it in December?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I believe it says always, yes, correct?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What is the meaning behind that? Cause I didn't see
Speaker 1: a caption about it. Someone what that means?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 1: Always? Was that your first tattoo?
Speaker 3: No, I actually have like sixteen. Oh yeah, it's yeah.
Speaker 3: No one really knows this, but they're all kind of hidden,
Speaker 3: and they're all very dainty and small.
Speaker 2: The biggest I have two big ones.
Speaker 3: One is on my back and it's a skeleton wearing
Speaker 3: cowboy boots, and then I have a dagger along my
Speaker 3: neck and Always. I actually got a matching one with
Speaker 3: one of my childhood friends. She has it in the
Speaker 3: exact same spot, So that's kind of like our thing.
Speaker 3: But I also like to think it has a double
Speaker 3: meaning because I'm obsessed with Harry Potter, and if you're
Speaker 3: a Harry Potter fan, you know that there is a
Speaker 3: very famous line in the franchise where a character says always.
Speaker 2: So I got it for that and there's like a
Speaker 2: little period at the end.
Speaker 1: Oh I love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't see it in the post because it's
Speaker 2: so small. It's actually probably the period. It's probably gone
Speaker 2: now wow, because it's so small.
Speaker 1: So you're kind of addicted to tattoos.
Speaker 2: I am a little bit. I go through phases.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I want them all off my body and then
Speaker 3: other times like I want them everywhere.
Speaker 2: I love them. They are addicting.
Speaker 1: I've been debating getting my first one lately. Don't Leslie,
Speaker 1: I'm afraid to say anything in front of your girl,
Speaker 1: Leslie over here. Okay, she approves, good good. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I'm gonna hear about that later. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been.
Speaker 2: Roll when I said I had sixteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well I'm working on my first. We'll see if
Speaker 1: I if I.
Speaker 2: Get the courage.
Speaker 3: But like once you once you have one, it's it's
Speaker 3: hard to steer away from getting more.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, maybe you'll be my inspiration. Maybe I
Speaker 1: was meant to meet you to get the courage to
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: I'm all for it. You have my full approval.
Speaker 1: Okay, good good, good, Well, I need to talk to
Speaker 1: you about your character and heart eyes, heart eyes is
Speaker 1: great for so many reasons. But I really liked your
Speaker 1: character because she's such a total badass. And I feel
Speaker 1: like in a lot of these horror movies sometimes the
Speaker 1: protagonist can be portrayed as a real victim, and your
Speaker 1: girl's not. She's not. She's a total badass. Are you
Speaker 1: a badass like her?
Speaker 2: I would like to think I am.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how so.
Speaker 3: I think a lot like Alie. I feel like I
Speaker 3: have qualities that are very strong willed, I feel very opinionated.
Speaker 3: I also feel very grounded in what I believe in
Speaker 3: for myself. And Ali is a driven human being. She
Speaker 3: wants to have She believes in longevity and believes in
Speaker 3: her career and what can.
Speaker 2: Come of it.
Speaker 3: And I really love that when she meets Jay her
Speaker 3: he offers her a chance of perspective and she doesn't
Speaker 3: steer away from the things that she still believes in.
Speaker 3: But I think she's a little bit more open in
Speaker 3: that way.
Speaker 2: And I just I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think that there's like a really beautiful layer in
Speaker 3: quality in a human and especially like in a woman
Speaker 3: on like that you're seeing on screen. I think being
Speaker 3: portrayed that way is really special. And this badass quality
Speaker 3: that she has. I think it just comes naturally to her,
Speaker 3: and obviously she probably would have never guessed in a
Speaker 3: million years that she would be being chased by a
Speaker 3: serial killer on one of, you know, the most romantic
Speaker 3: nights of the year.
Speaker 2: But she really showcases her bad assery.
Speaker 3: And I would like to think when I'm putting uncomfortable
Speaker 3: or extreme sitch situations that that quality of myself can
Speaker 3: come out to.
Speaker 1: And you're no stranger to horror, right, It's a genre
Speaker 1: that you're quite familiar with.
Speaker 3: That I definitely have gotten into it more of my
Speaker 3: adult life.
Speaker 2: I do love that this genre.
Speaker 3: Has like opened up a whole new side of me
Speaker 3: because I used to just really be into I mean,
Speaker 3: I love action movies, I love anything in like the
Speaker 3: fantasy world, but horror I had never really like sunk
Speaker 3: my teeth into and even not even just like me
Speaker 3: being in this world just watching watching horror movies and
Speaker 3: like becoming an actual true fan. I think I just
Speaker 3: have gained a whole new respect for this genre and.
Speaker 1: Hard Eyes in particular. You've said is the most fun
Speaker 1: You've had with any job in your life.
Speaker 3: Why so, Well, it all starts with a great script
Speaker 3: and a great director. And I think our director, Josh
Speaker 3: Rubin hung the moon.
Speaker 2: He is so so.
Speaker 3: Talented and has a brilliant mind, and his vision is just.
Speaker 2: It's one of a kind.
Speaker 3: And when I met with him before I signed on
Speaker 3: to do the job, I knew immediately if it wasn't
Speaker 3: this job that I was going to work on with him,
Speaker 3: it would be it would be something because I think
Speaker 3: he's so so good And I think ultimately like it's
Speaker 3: the camaraderie, it's the community, it's home away from home
Speaker 3: for a lot of people, because I think what a
Speaker 3: lot of people don't realize is that actors, when they
Speaker 3: go and they do a job, it's always most.
Speaker 2: Of the time not at home.
Speaker 3: Like it's not in their space, it's not around their friends,
Speaker 3: it's not around their family. They're isolated from all of
Speaker 3: those people. So we shot this movie in New Zealand,
Speaker 3: which is all the way across the world, and we
Speaker 3: were there for a little over two and a half months.
Speaker 3: And you want it to feel like you wanted to
Speaker 3: feel homey, You want it to feel comfortable. And I
Speaker 3: think everyone did such a beautiful job, from everyone in
Speaker 3: production to our crew, to our incredible cast. I mean,
Speaker 3: everyone really just made it an incredible and safe environment.
Speaker 1: And you and Mason, I mean, the two of you
Speaker 1: have electric chemistry on screen, and this is a movie
Speaker 1: where you can't fake it, like you really have to
Speaker 1: have the audience believe in what's going on on screen
Speaker 1: between the two of you. So when you meet someone
Speaker 1: like a co star like Mason, how do you form
Speaker 1: that bond? How do you form that chemistry? Because you're
Speaker 1: two strangers being put together, maybe not strangers, but you
Speaker 1: don't presumably know each other. Well, you're put together very quickly,
Speaker 1: and you have to form this relationship so that it's believable,
Speaker 1: which is not how regular everyday life works. Right. That
Speaker 1: takes time, that does trust and all of that. So
Speaker 1: how do you get there to make that magic happen
Speaker 1: on screen with somebody like Mason?
Speaker 3: Well, I fear I'm not going to be able to
Speaker 3: use the same vocabulary as he did with me, because
Speaker 3: he definitely is my hype man in his life.
Speaker 2: With someone like Mason who is so.
Speaker 3: Passionate about what he does, but also just passionate about
Speaker 3: people that he cares about, it was very easy to
Speaker 3: fall into that. From day one of meeting him. He
Speaker 3: made me feel seen, he made me feel hurt, he
Speaker 3: made me feel comfortable. He created a very safe environment
Speaker 3: for me, and that was on and offset whether we
Speaker 3: were doing a scene that incorporated a lot of stunt
Speaker 3: choreography or whether we were trying to decide what we
Speaker 3: were going to eat for lunch. Like, he just like
Speaker 3: made every day so much fun. And he and he
Speaker 3: just in you can tell how much he cares. He
Speaker 3: really is just a compassionate person. And so the way
Speaker 3: that he the way that he created the environment on set,
Speaker 3: but the way that he chose to to learn about
Speaker 3: me and to create a friendship, I think I just
Speaker 3: I really respected that and we just leaned into it.
Speaker 3: And I think that translates on screen and you can
Speaker 3: feel it when you watch our characters.
Speaker 2: Do the other thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's that's a level of trust you have
Speaker 1: to put in someone else's hands, too, right, And I
Speaker 1: imagine that when you are halfway across the world and
Speaker 1: you're not in your an environment, you just hope and
Speaker 1: pray and wish that you're with somebody. Corslreat time.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, every time every time I go and
Speaker 3: do a job, I'm like I better like these people
Speaker 3: because it doesn't makes such a difference. And I think
Speaker 3: that's why I had so much fun making this movie
Speaker 3: is because everyone everyone really leaned on each other in
Speaker 3: the most beautiful and authentic way, and it just it separates.
Speaker 2: It separates like.
Speaker 3: A normal job where you're stressed and like just trying
Speaker 3: to make the day because time is money and money
Speaker 3: is time and you know all of these things that
Speaker 3: we're used to hearing on a job every single day.
Speaker 3: But when you can like wake up every morning and
Speaker 3: feel like you can do cartwheels on the way to work,
Speaker 3: that's like it feels.
Speaker 2: Like you made it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I had him on the show last week,
Speaker 1: as you know, and I said to him, Okay, i'll camera,
Speaker 1: what is something quirky that I can bring up for Olivia?
Speaker 1: Oh no, and let me tell you. He had a
Speaker 1: list of like seven things, and I'm like, Mason, I
Speaker 1: don't have four hours, so let me pick like my
Speaker 1: favorite too. So one of the things he said I
Speaker 1: have to bring up is that you had a private
Speaker 1: rehearsal with Josh and he told you two specific things.
Speaker 1: What were those? And why is he making me ask you?
Speaker 2: Wait? That him and I had a private rehearsal Josh
Speaker 2: are just me.
Speaker 1: I think he made it seem like you did. Is
Speaker 1: he trying to stir the pot?
Speaker 2: I think he might be stirring the pot. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't think I remember having Here's what I think.
Speaker 3: I think this is the story. So there's a scene
Speaker 3: in the movie where our characters go to dinner and
Speaker 3: there's a little tip for tatting between the two of
Speaker 3: our characters. And this was actually both of Mason and
Speaker 3: I audition scenes that we didn't do a chemistry read.
Speaker 3: So the first time that we got to read these
Speaker 3: as our characters was when we touchdown in New Zealand
Speaker 3: and we were in we were in a rehearsal with
Speaker 3: Josh and this is probably, like, I don't know, a
Speaker 3: six page scene of dialogue, which is really heavy work.
Speaker 3: And we had spent we knew that we were going
Speaker 3: to spend an entire day working on this scene, and
Speaker 3: we rehearsed it quite a bit just to get the
Speaker 3: words in our body and to you know, make it
Speaker 3: feel natural. And then it kind of felt mundane, like
Speaker 3: the way we were saying it. It didn't really feel
Speaker 3: authentic any more. And There was one day we were
Speaker 3: sitting at a long table and Mason and I were
Speaker 3: across from each other, and Josh was sitting at the
Speaker 3: head of the table and we were rehearsing the scene
Speaker 3: and he said, m I'm gonna try something, and he
Speaker 3: writes down a note on one tiny little piece of
Speaker 3: paper and he gives it to Mason. And he writes
Speaker 3: down a little note on a tiny piece of paper
Speaker 3: and he gives it to me, and Mason and I
Speaker 3: both read the notes and we were like, We looked
Speaker 3: at Josh and we were like, do we tell it? Hees, No,
Speaker 3: don't tell each other. Just take the note and do
Speaker 3: the scene again. And something magical happened. And still to
Speaker 3: this day, we don't know what was written on those notes,
Speaker 3: but that is the way that we chose to approach
Speaker 3: the scene on the day of shooting. And I think
Speaker 3: that's the story. He probably is mentioning when he told
Speaker 3: you this.
Speaker 1: So you haven't said, what's on your note? No? Well
Speaker 1: why not? Now? I feel like I have to know.
Speaker 3: I feel like, one day, oh, well, okay, you will.
Speaker 3: But I kind of love that Josh just had this
Speaker 3: this and it's.
Speaker 2: You know, it's Josh.
Speaker 3: He has a brilliant mind and just like a little
Speaker 3: light bulb went off in his head when he was
Speaker 3: watching the two of us rehearse this scene. And for
Speaker 3: some reason, the notes that the note that he gave me,
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, okay, I can do this, And
Speaker 3: the note that he gave Mason, Mason seems like he
Speaker 3: could do it too, And yeah, we don't know, all right.
Speaker 1: The other thing I have to ask you is something
Speaker 1: about lamby am I saying.
Speaker 3: Okay, So Lammy is okay? First all, when I set
Speaker 3: up the scene, the scene is we're in New Zealand.
Speaker 3: It's everyone's summer, but it's their winter, so it's freezing
Speaker 3: cold in New Zealand. It's like negative something degrees out
Speaker 3: and we were shooting mostly at night, and normally we
Speaker 3: all the actors get a warming coat in between scenes
Speaker 3: or in between takes, and sometimes they'll give you hot
Speaker 3: water bottles, you know I'm talking about, like the ones
Speaker 3: you can like hold to your body to keep warm. Well,
Speaker 3: the costume department had some really fun covers that you
Speaker 3: could put over the hot water bottles, and the one
Speaker 3: that they would give me every day was a lamb,
Speaker 3: and I don't.
Speaker 2: This is it.
Speaker 3: It's probably had to be there moment. This does not
Speaker 3: sound that exciting now that I'm saying it out loud,
Speaker 3: but I loved this lamb and I named it Lammy.
Speaker 3: And anytime that they would hand the hot water bottle
Speaker 3: that was, you know, dressed up as the lamb to
Speaker 3: any other actor.
Speaker 2: I would be like, why'd you give it to them?
Speaker 2: And me? I love Lammy. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then there was a really funny day where they
Speaker 3: were we were about to break for lunch and.
Speaker 2: Someone had asked, what's for lunch?
Speaker 3: What are we eating for lunch today? And someone said, oh,
Speaker 3: I think lamb chops And I was like, Lammy, So
Speaker 3: we had, we had, so we had. I mean like,
Speaker 3: that's just like an example of how much fun we
Speaker 3: had on set. We just like constantly we're creating inside jokes.
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna kill him for that one. That was
Speaker 3: a sacred thing for me.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's your next tattoo, a lamb.
Speaker 2: I'll think about it.
Speaker 1: You're like, no, I'm not getting a lamb on my body.
Speaker 1: Shut down and shut down, all right? Well, thank you, Mason.
Speaker 1: I know you'll be listening, so thank you for those questions.
Speaker 1: If you could be a part of any other horror friend,
Speaker 1: what would you pick? Ooh, have you really not been
Speaker 1: asked that yet? No?
Speaker 2: Our whole tour really Oh okay, that's like my favorite.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I knew that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but it's it's really hard to choose
Speaker 3: because I mean, there's so many iconic I know, I honestly,
Speaker 3: one of the first franchises I fell in love with
Speaker 3: was Halloween. Like Michael Myers, like I love like, I
Speaker 3: love Michael Myers. Also, I'm obsessed with the jumpsuit, and
Speaker 3: he looks so good in jumpsuit.
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe maybe Halloween.
Speaker 1: Are you crushing on him right now?
Speaker 2: I think I have a crush.
Speaker 1: On Halloween's great, right right? I love that solid choice,
Speaker 1: good choice. I love the Halloween h two twenty years later.
Speaker 2: That yeah great, it was so good. It was so good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I see you. You never know what can happen,
Speaker 1: some more might get made, so potentially, never know, you
Speaker 1: never know. I love your story because I think it's
Speaker 1: I'm always fascinated when people work at such a young
Speaker 1: age in this business, and I know at twelve you
Speaker 1: started working in the Disney World, right doing acting and
Speaker 1: singing and all of the things, and then you transitioned
Speaker 1: into this adulthood headlining your own movie in a major
Speaker 1: studio release, which isn't always the easiest thing to do.
Speaker 1: Was that transition tricky for you to navigate at all?
Speaker 2: Of course? Yeah? Yeah, I think.
Speaker 3: I think I spent a lot of time trying to
Speaker 3: figure out what the right move was for me doing
Speaker 3: the transition, because everyone is familiar with that formula and
Speaker 3: like how it turns out for a lot of people,
Speaker 3: or just how challenging it can be to try and
Speaker 3: get people to see you as not a child actor,
Speaker 3: or as not a former Disney star, or as.
Speaker 2: Not X Y and Z.
Speaker 3: And I think for me, I really tried to learn
Speaker 3: how to shift my perspective and just find projects that
Speaker 3: I really believed in and filmmakers that I really believed
Speaker 3: in as well, and.
Speaker 2: That that was not hard.
Speaker 3: I think there are really talented people out there, and
Speaker 3: I've luckily have been in and have created incredible relationships
Speaker 3: with people in this industry that I think are so
Speaker 3: wildly talented and that I hope I get the opportunity
Speaker 3: to work with again and again and again and again,
Speaker 3: and trying to be strategic can be really tricky because
Speaker 3: this job ain't for the I mean, it is a
Speaker 3: very very, very tricky.
Speaker 2: Career to succeed in.
Speaker 3: And I do want to be strategic about the jobs
Speaker 3: that I choose, but sometimes you can't get that lucky.
Speaker 3: And I think for me, it really is like about
Speaker 3: the ones that I believe in the most, and Hard
Speaker 3: Eyes was one of those. Hard Eyes was one of
Speaker 3: those jobs. And I don't know, I bet every year
Speaker 3: is different. You know, you hear it all the time
Speaker 3: from actors that sometimes they had to take a little break,
Speaker 3: sometimes they needed to just take a paycheck. And I
Speaker 3: hope I never get to that place. I hope I
Speaker 3: constantly am finding things that I'm obsessed with and want
Speaker 3: to make and want to bring to life. But for now,
Speaker 3: I feel very blessed to have had the path that
Speaker 3: I have been on over the course of my career.
Speaker 1: Did you feel like you ever had to work extra
Speaker 1: hard to showcase a different side to your talents when
Speaker 1: you were kind of coming out of that Disney bubble
Speaker 1: and stepping into other projects that interested you?
Speaker 2: Of course, yeah.
Speaker 3: And I don't even think I really knew what I
Speaker 3: was doing or if I even knew how to challenge myself.
Speaker 3: I grew up on sitcom and that was kind of my.
Speaker 2: Bread and butter.
Speaker 3: I fell into like a really good routine of what
Speaker 3: my schedule was like and how I would I mean,
Speaker 3: when you're playing the same character for X amount of days, months, years,
Speaker 3: you just sort of fall into a rhythm. And when
Speaker 3: I started making movies, it's a very it's.
Speaker 2: A very different rhythm.
Speaker 3: And I felt like I was really stepping outside of
Speaker 3: my comfort zone with how to approach a character, How
Speaker 3: to approach Okay, we're about to go into seven weeks
Speaker 3: of shooting, how do you and only those seven weeks
Speaker 3: are you spending that time with that with that story
Speaker 3: and with that character? And so I really had to
Speaker 3: approach it differently and to also believe in myself. I
Speaker 3: think that was a really hard thing to do, to
Speaker 3: think like, oh, I'm not just like a child actor
Speaker 3: who who's funny? Like I want to challenge myself and
Speaker 3: take on real gritty roles that I can sink my
Speaker 3: teeth into and something that will challenge me and help
Speaker 3: me evolve not only as an artist but as a person.
Speaker 1: You know, what's so crazy even hearing you say that
Speaker 1: I'm not just a child actor, like I know so
Speaker 1: many people who did work as you know, at that
Speaker 1: young I get you feel that same way, right, and
Speaker 1: I'm hearing that not that, and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: just a child actor like you guys were doing things
Speaker 1: that we weren't doing growing up, Like I wasn't working
Speaker 1: at that age. And to have that kind of mindset
Speaker 1: of still wanting to prove that you can do more
Speaker 1: blows my mind. So it's like, well, you were doing
Speaker 1: so much.
Speaker 2: Then it messes with your head, right, But.
Speaker 1: I understand wanting to be put in a box. Right
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. None of us want
Speaker 1: to be put in a box. And I'm sure you
Speaker 1: had to kind of work through some of that stuff
Speaker 1: like Okay, like am I going to do this? Am
Speaker 1: I not going to do it? Can I do it?
Speaker 1: Like I'm used to? One thing?
Speaker 3: Well, then there's this really interesting pivot where most of
Speaker 3: the child actors, by the time their show is wrapping up,
Speaker 3: they're turning eighteen, and so you're also trying to figure
Speaker 3: out who you are as a person and a young adult,
Speaker 3: like stepping into like your late teens, early twenties, and
Speaker 3: that also messes.
Speaker 2: With your head because you're like, oh, oh.
Speaker 3: This is I've been this kid on this show, this
Speaker 3: thing that somebody has known me from for so long,
Speaker 3: and now that that's ending, who am I?
Speaker 2: Not only as an actor, but who am I? Like
Speaker 2: my very core?
Speaker 3: And that's also a really challenging thing to just dump
Speaker 3: on you too. Is this like chapter of your life
Speaker 3: is ending?
Speaker 1: So how are you so normal? But you're sitting here
Speaker 1: so together. I'm like, I don't know if I would
Speaker 1: be if I went through all of that. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: you must surround yourself with good people.
Speaker 3: No, I definitely, Yeah, I would say that's a huge
Speaker 3: part of it. I have an amazing, supportive family. I
Speaker 3: don't know where I would be without them. They're definitely
Speaker 3: a huge part of who I am today. And a
Speaker 3: lot of it, yeah, is surrounding myself with great friends.
Speaker 3: And I've definitely had to, like, you know, go through
Speaker 3: like the weaving out of who those people are and
Speaker 3: I still am and it's and it doesn't get easier,
Speaker 3: but it definitely grounds me in a real way. And
Speaker 3: I feel very lucky for them because they're the people
Speaker 3: that I have to lean on.
Speaker 2: In the hard moments.
Speaker 1: Well, it's evident from an outside perspective, you're someone who
Speaker 1: does the work right and you want to make sure
Speaker 1: you're always kind of staying with your two feet on
Speaker 1: the ground and grounded in a very bizarre world that
Speaker 1: you work in. Were there any people from the Disney
Speaker 1: world or even the Nickelodeon world who were child actors
Speaker 1: who transitioned as well that you looked up to, or
Speaker 1: mentored or ever got a vice from to kind of
Speaker 1: like feel us alone when you were going through this business.
Speaker 3: Interesting, I I mean, there were definitely a lot of
Speaker 3: people that I looked up to.
Speaker 2: My sort of.
Speaker 3: Generation of Disney that I watched was you know, the
Speaker 3: the Miley Demi Selena era, And there is an actor
Speaker 3: on Hannah Montana who played Miley's brother. His name is
Speaker 3: Jason Earls, and Jason Earles actually came over to the
Speaker 3: first show that I ever did, called Kicking It. I
Speaker 3: was twelve years old when I started that show. I
Speaker 3: had no idea what I was doing. I don't even
Speaker 3: know how I booked the job. I did not think
Speaker 3: I was a good actor, but he very quickly became
Speaker 3: my mentor. He just sort of helped without telling us kids,
Speaker 3: like how you're.
Speaker 2: Going to do it and how it's going to be.
Speaker 3: He sort of helped guide us in a really beautiful
Speaker 3: way that made us feel comfortable and made us feel
Speaker 3: respected as kids. And I don't even think I knew
Speaker 3: what that meant at that time, But now looking back,
Speaker 3: I owe so much of who I am to him
Speaker 3: as an actor and as an artist, because.
Speaker 2: He really helped. He really helped create.
Speaker 3: Just such an awesome environment for us kids and a
Speaker 3: safe place to go to if we were ever confused
Speaker 3: or if we ever didn't know what was going on.
Speaker 3: And I think he's just a really wonderful, talented person
Speaker 3: and I'm very, very very grateful that he was.
Speaker 2: He was a part of our show.
Speaker 3: He was like our big brother, leading the way and
Speaker 3: helping us navigate this crazy career path that we've chosen.
Speaker 1: And he wasn't even part of it.
Speaker 2: No, he was. He was an actor. He was as
Speaker 2: he was in the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he still took the time to do that
Speaker 1: and help and mentor. Isn't an amazing when life puts
Speaker 1: these like as I call them, angels in front of
Speaker 1: you who you don't really know in the moments sometimes
Speaker 1: what the purposes are, why you appreciate them and you
Speaker 1: value them, but then you look back and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, if I didn't have that, I could
Speaker 1: have maybe gone a few different ways.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, he's definitely one of those people. He just very
Speaker 3: clearly showed us the way without even what and I
Speaker 3: liked he never like talked down to us. He never
Speaker 3: talked to us like we were kids. And I very
Speaker 3: quickly caught on too that because so many people on
Speaker 3: that set, I mean, we were kids, so of course
Speaker 3: people are going to talk to us like we're kids
Speaker 3: and sometimes treat us like we're kids.
Speaker 2: But he made us feel.
Speaker 3: Like like like like we were one of him, like
Speaker 3: we were one of the big dogs. And that just
Speaker 3: made that made me especially I was the only girl
Speaker 3: on that set.
Speaker 2: It's the only girl and a bunch.
Speaker 3: Of teenage boys, and then Jason just like, yeah, he.
Speaker 2: Was the best.
Speaker 1: That's amazing, that's amazing. You you have so much to
Speaker 1: be proud of. Like I said earlier, to be leading
Speaker 1: your own studio film like this on such a grand
Speaker 1: scale is something that is so hard to achieve, and
Speaker 1: you're doing it and you put in the work over
Speaker 1: your career to be doing it. You're part You're part
Speaker 1: of so many fan favorite projects, And when I announced
Speaker 1: you as my guest, people were commenting and writing and
Speaker 1: they were just so exciting seeing where your fan bases
Speaker 1: are from. You know, like Cruel Summer, The fandom of
Speaker 1: that is incredible.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you know? All over TikTok people are creating videos
Speaker 1: hoping and praying that you'll come back for another season.
Speaker 1: Have you seen those? You have seen those?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I have?
Speaker 1: Is that something you would ever do? Or you think
Speaker 1: you've kind of moved on?
Speaker 3: I loved that show, and I also love that so
Speaker 3: many people loved it and that they're still wanting more.
Speaker 2: There's a world where I do feel like that story is.
Speaker 2: I like the way that it ended.
Speaker 3: Sometimes, you know, when you don't don't mess up something
Speaker 3: that's already that's already really great. But then there's like
Speaker 3: this other part of me that's like, man, we could
Speaker 3: really we could really dive in on these characters and
Speaker 3: just like build a whole world around them, And I
Speaker 3: also think that could be really fun. I don't know, though,
Speaker 3: I'm not the creator, I'm not the writer. I'm just
Speaker 3: the actor coming in but of course I have. Of
Speaker 3: course I have. I'm not saying no. It would be
Speaker 3: a pleasure to bring Kate back. And doing that show
Speaker 3: was actually one of like the most fun biggest challenges,
Speaker 3: going back and forth from three different time timelines every
Speaker 3: single day was I mean, talk about running from set
Speaker 3: to hair and makeup to your trailer to change into
Speaker 3: a new costume. I mean that that felt like Hollywood
Speaker 3: to me. That was I mean, it was the most wild.
Speaker 1: And it just broke yesterday or two days ago that
Speaker 1: you're teaming up with your on screen boyfriend from that show,
Speaker 1: Freud Gutierrez again. That must be pretty cool. That's rare,
Speaker 1: right to team up with people you've been on.
Speaker 2: Other projects there, Yes, it's so rare.
Speaker 3: I think Froy is so talented and he's also just
Speaker 3: like such a kind and wonderful human being, and I
Speaker 3: cannot wait to work with him again.
Speaker 1: That's really cool. That's really cool. I also saw on
Speaker 1: the TikTok. Look, I think I'm a TikTok expert. Now
Speaker 1: I know, it's like recently got on because my agent's
Speaker 1: like get on. So I'm trying to still figure it out.
Speaker 1: But people want a cloak and Dagger movie. Oh a movie,
Speaker 1: A movie?
Speaker 3: Rad you're down for it all, I'm down for it all.
Speaker 3: I'm so proud of that show. I was heartbroken when
Speaker 3: we weren't coming back for a new season.
Speaker 2: I really loved that show.
Speaker 3: And I think so much of like going back to
Speaker 3: the transitioning from being you know, a sitcom actor to
Speaker 3: trying to figure out where you are in your young
Speaker 3: adult life to figuring out what's next in your career.
Speaker 2: That was that time for me.
Speaker 3: Cloak and Dagger was the time where I it was
Speaker 3: like my going into college years, like my version of
Speaker 3: that because I think I was eighteen turning nineteen when
Speaker 3: we shot the pilot, and then when we got picked
Speaker 3: up to a series, I turned twenty oh wow, and
Speaker 3: our second season I turned twenty one. So like that
Speaker 3: chunk of time I feel like in your life is
Speaker 3: such a It's such a huge moment because you really
Speaker 3: are soaking up so much knowledge and trying to figure
Speaker 3: out who you are and what you like and what
Speaker 3: you don't like and what you're into and from you know,
Speaker 3: deep rooted things like inside internally, but also just like
Speaker 3: a whole like scale of what life can look like
Speaker 3: for yourself and Cloak and Dagger was that time. So
Speaker 3: I hold that time in my life and that show
Speaker 3: in a very deep place in my heart.
Speaker 2: That's why I have a dagger on my I.
Speaker 1: Figured it as soon as you said that. I'm like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Cloak and Dagger boaking dagger, that's amazing.
Speaker 2: I'd be down for a movie that sounds fun.
Speaker 1: You're down for it all, like I said, for it all.
Speaker 1: And music too, is so important to you. I know
Speaker 1: that was your first love, and is that something you
Speaker 1: still hope to get into as well a bit more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean music is my first love.
Speaker 3: I've loved to sing ever since I was a little kid,
Speaker 3: and I feel very grateful that I've gotten so many
Speaker 3: incredible opportunities to make music over the course of my life.
Speaker 3: Music is a very sacred thing to me. It feels
Speaker 3: very feels very personal, and when I start making music again,
Speaker 3: I want it to feel authentic.
Speaker 2: And I've had to learn.
Speaker 3: Over the last ten years of making music what my
Speaker 3: voice sounds like, and not only sonically, but also lyrically.
Speaker 3: And I've worked with some really, really, really extraordinary producers
Speaker 3: and writers on songs that I've done, and I just
Speaker 3: I want that next chapter of music to feel the
Speaker 3: most authentic to me is possible, And I don't know
Speaker 3: what that quite looks like yet, but I am figuring
Speaker 3: it out slowly but surely. And I really do want
Speaker 3: to put out music and let that part of my
Speaker 3: life be be something meaningful to me instead of just
Speaker 3: dropping songs that I don't necessarily know if I believe
Speaker 3: in or love.
Speaker 1: Well, that's when the best magic happens, right when you
Speaker 1: really full heartily do something for the right reasons, that's
Speaker 1: when sometimes you reap the biggest rewards from it because
Speaker 1: there's passion, yeah, which is the most amazing thing. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you see people all the time comments and they
Speaker 1: want more music, right boys. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: It makes me so happy too that they and that
Speaker 3: they've sort of stayed on this music journey with me
Speaker 3: because it sort of has been a long one. But
Speaker 3: I mean, like, I feel like you're watching so many
Speaker 3: amazing artists pop off right now, but they've been doing
Speaker 3: it for so long and it really takes it takes
Speaker 3: a lot of hard work to get to those places.
Speaker 3: And I'm so proud of everyone that I've seen now
Speaker 3: winning Grammys, and it just it really is. It really
Speaker 3: is an amazing It's a really tough career, so it's
Speaker 3: amazing to see these people get to where they are now.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I think Olivia. One thing that I'm so
Speaker 1: impressed by is you've done so much in what I
Speaker 1: think is a very short amount of time. And I
Speaker 1: think sometimes when you're in it, it's hard to remember
Speaker 1: that because you're kind of on the hamster wheel and
Speaker 1: you're worried about what's next and what's coming in a
Speaker 1: very tough business. But are you able to sit back
Speaker 1: sometimes and reflect on everything that you've achieved and feel like, wow,
Speaker 1: like I'm doing it. I'm actually making my wildest dreams
Speaker 1: come true instead of just worrying all the time about
Speaker 1: what's next.
Speaker 3: It's actually funny that you mentioned this, because I feel
Speaker 3: like I'm having one of those moments right now.
Speaker 2: I've never had a theatrical release.
Speaker 3: I've never had a movie come out in theaters, and
Speaker 3: ever since I was a kid, I would go to
Speaker 3: the movies every single weekend with my family, and the
Speaker 3: experience of walking up to a theater and seeing a
Speaker 3: poster of a movie that I'm in is.
Speaker 2: I don't know any other term other than dream come true.
Speaker 3: And it's like I get goosebumps thinking about it, because
Speaker 3: this really is like one of those moments in my
Speaker 3: life that I can't rush. I just have to enjoy
Speaker 3: it and soak it all up. And I was talking
Speaker 3: to you about how many flights I've been on this week,
Speaker 3: and it's so easy to just get caught up and
Speaker 3: like you said, the hamster wheel of the rush and
Speaker 3: trying to figure out, Okay, well, after this press run
Speaker 3: is done, like what's next? What am I doing after
Speaker 3: that thing is done? And I like to take pride
Speaker 3: in the fact that I am a very present person
Speaker 3: and I do like to take moments and it's no
Speaker 3: particular routine or part of my day, but in the
Speaker 3: moments that I really feel the wash of gratefulness come
Speaker 3: over me, I like to just take a beat and
Speaker 3: just yeah, I count my blessings because it really is
Speaker 3: a challenging career and every job that I go on,
Speaker 3: I still have pinched me in my dreaming moments because
Speaker 3: it is my favorite thing to do. And yeah, I
Speaker 3: think one of those moments is right now in my life.
Speaker 1: I think I remember seeing a picture you posted of
Speaker 1: you in it theater with the hard Eyes poster kind
Speaker 1: of crouched down, and that's probably one of those moments.
Speaker 3: The first time I saw it, really yeah, and I
Speaker 3: was with my It was over the holidays and I
Speaker 3: was with my parents and it was just my parents
Speaker 3: and I and we were going to see a movie.
Speaker 3: And I think I was like looking down at my
Speaker 3: phone or something walking to the theater and I just
Speaker 3: hear my mom gasp. She's like and I was like
Speaker 3: what what what and she was like look, look, and
Speaker 3: there was the Hard Eyes poster and it and I
Speaker 3: was like kind of embarrassed to stand in front of
Speaker 3: it while people were walking by.
Speaker 2: But I also was like, guys, like, this is my
Speaker 2: movie and it just it is.
Speaker 3: It's like it's one of the most exciting and I
Speaker 3: don't know if I'll ever have that. I hope that
Speaker 3: I do, you know. I hope that I have like
Speaker 3: another opportunity like that.
Speaker 2: So I just got to soak it up.
Speaker 3: I just got to be in the moment and enjoy
Speaker 3: all of it as it comes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, soak it all in. I think you'll have many
Speaker 1: other moments exactly like that, especially with this one. I
Speaker 1: think it will be a franchise it's just so good,
Speaker 1: and so I would be shocked if it's not a franchise.
Speaker 1: But you got to soak in every single moment. And
Speaker 1: as we wrap up, the name of the show is
Speaker 1: I've never said this before, and it was born from
Speaker 1: the idea of I work a lot of red carpets.
Speaker 1: I do a lot of junkets. You're no stranger to them.
Speaker 1: You get three minutes. If you're lucky on a carpet,
Speaker 1: you get six minutes with somebody in a junket. And
Speaker 1: I've always been more drawn to real conversation than just
Speaker 1: headline based conversation or movie sound bites, you know. And
Speaker 1: I saw longing from a lot of the people I
Speaker 1: was talking you to just want to say a little extra,
Speaker 1: something more, but just not having the time. So I'm wondering,
Speaker 1: is there something that you can think of that you've
Speaker 1: never said before that you want to share today?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think actually a lot of what we've been talking
Speaker 3: about is these really special moments in your.
Speaker 2: Life and.
Speaker 3: How how important they are to you, and how they
Speaker 3: build character for yourself. And I think it's important to
Speaker 3: remember that even in some of the happiest and most
Speaker 3: exciting moments, of your life. Sometimes there can be things
Speaker 3: happening behind the curtain that aren't as exciting and that
Speaker 3: are heavier and deeper. And I know that I've experienced
Speaker 3: that a lot in the course of my career, and
Speaker 3: I think that it's ok It's okay. I put a
Speaker 3: lot of pressure on myself to play the part, to
Speaker 3: play this is so exciting, and this is and it
Speaker 3: is and it's all of those wonderful things.
Speaker 2: But I also think.
Speaker 3: It's okay to not be okay as well, and to
Speaker 3: feel those feelings. And some of the happiest moments in
Speaker 3: my life were also the most depressing moments in my life,
Speaker 3: and I would.
Speaker 2: Feel really guilty for that.
Speaker 3: And I feel very grateful to have an incredible support
Speaker 3: system around me who helped me lean into every moment
Speaker 3: that I feel and make me feel heard and make
Speaker 3: me feel seen.
Speaker 2: And I think that's something that I.
Speaker 3: Always really struggled with with what you're talking about the
Speaker 3: three minutes or the six minutes, to try and get
Speaker 3: out all of the things that you want to say
Speaker 3: and not actually feeling like you said anything at all.
Speaker 3: And I have learned to accept that everything that I
Speaker 3: believe in, everything that I am passionate about everything that
Speaker 3: I feel, even if I feel too much, that it's
Speaker 3: okay and that I am enough.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think that's it.
Speaker 1: I think that's it very well said. I love that
Speaker 1: last part, I am enough.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So often we forget that, you know.
Speaker 2: I think we do.
Speaker 3: We get caught up in what we think we're supposed
Speaker 3: to be or I don't know, be trick ourselves. Sometimes
Speaker 3: we have syndrome. I get that a lot. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I think to remind myself that I am enough.
Speaker 1: And one last question based off of that, because I
Speaker 1: think it's so important when I have young artists on
Speaker 1: like yourself, how do you tune out that noise to
Speaker 1: focus on you and not let other people dictate who
Speaker 1: you should or shouldn't be.
Speaker 3: It's a really, really tricky thing to do. I've learned
Speaker 3: to really lean into shifting my perspective and lean on
Speaker 3: to the things that bring me joy and that make
Speaker 3: me feel confident, because I think it's so easy to
Speaker 3: doom scroll and to compare yourself to so many people
Speaker 3: that you see on the internet, so easy to fall
Speaker 3: into that trap.
Speaker 2: I do it very often.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I'll catch myself doing it and I'll throw my
Speaker 3: phone across the room. But to remind yourself of the
Speaker 3: things that make you feel good and make you feel
Speaker 3: beautiful and make you feel confident, and that also can
Speaker 3: be a very hard thing to do. But sometimes I
Speaker 3: repeat it in my head, like the things that I
Speaker 3: like about myself until I start believing it, and that
Speaker 3: can sometimes be helpful. I feel like everyone has like
Speaker 3: a little different trick to what helps them, but I
Speaker 3: think that's something that really helps me. Well.
Speaker 1: I kind of love that more. I couldn't adore you more.
Speaker 1: Mason was right, because like, you're gonna have so much
Speaker 1: fun with her. She's the best, and I just I
Speaker 1: think everything you've built in your career you should be
Speaker 1: so proud of. This movie is fantastic. I predict it
Speaker 1: will be a huge success. Everybody, go out and see
Speaker 1: Heart Eyes. It is out now, and congratulations, I hope
Speaker 1: you come back.
Speaker 2: Thank you me too, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: It's just so nice.
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