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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with

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Speaker 1: me Tommy di Dario. It is officially the week of Love. Yes,

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Speaker 1: whether you hate it, whether you love it. Valentine's Day,

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Speaker 1: it's approaching. But here's something that I know for sure

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Speaker 1: you will love, and that's the new romantic comedy horror

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Speaker 1: film Heart Eyes. My guest today is the wonderfully talented

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Speaker 1: actress Olivia Hall, who stars in this incredible film opposite

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Speaker 1: Mason Gooding, who I had on my show last week

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Speaker 1: and was a total gem. Okay, So Olivia, She's quickly

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Speaker 1: rising to the top as part of Hollywood's next generation.

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Speaker 1: You know and you love her from the hit show

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Speaker 1: started opposite Kuran and Shipka in the film Totally Killer.

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Speaker 1: Oh and she made her Broadway debut as Roxy Heart

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Speaker 1: in Chicago Casual. Plus he is such a gifted singer

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Speaker 1: and her EP titled Olivia debut in the top twenty

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Speaker 1: on Billboard's New Artist Chart. But let's get back to

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Speaker 1: Hard Eyes, because Olivia is such a badass in this movie.

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Speaker 1: The main goal is to stay alive on the most

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Speaker 1: romantic day of right, how hard can that be? The

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Speaker 1: mass killer targets couples, and Olivia's character finds herself as

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Speaker 1: the latest victim. But what's so unique and fun about

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Speaker 1: this movie is, yes, you have all of the jump

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Speaker 1: scares that you crave and want in horror, but there

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Speaker 1: are also really tender and sweet and comedic moments, ones

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Speaker 1: that you find in your favorite rom coms. So at

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Speaker 1: the very least, if you aren't a big Valentine's Day fan,

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Speaker 1: well perhaps this movie will give you a reason to

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Speaker 1: look forward to that holiday every single year. So let's

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Speaker 1: see if today we can get Olivia to say something

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Speaker 1: that she has never said before. Olivia Hall, how are you,

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Speaker 1: my friend?

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Speaker 2: I'm good?

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Speaker 1: You're good. Are you feeling alive? I know you've been

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Speaker 2: I actually feel really good. I don't feel jet lagged yet.

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Speaker 3: I feel like normally that hits me when I finally

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel good. I'm happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: Well, what an exciting time for you right now? I

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Speaker 1: saw the movie. I love the movie. We're going to

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Speaker 1: talk all about it. I am such a big horror fan,

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Speaker 1: so I had high expectations going to this film, and

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Speaker 1: they were exceeded. I will say I thought it was

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Speaker 1: absolutely fantastic. But to start, I was doing a little

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Speaker 1: perusing on your Instagram and I saw you got a tattoo?

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Speaker 1: Was it in December?

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Speaker 1: And I believe it says always, yes, correct?

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Speaker 1: What is the meaning behind that? Cause I didn't see

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Speaker 1: a caption about it. Someone what that means?

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Speaker 3: Why?

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Speaker 1: Always? Was that your first tattoo?

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Speaker 3: No, I actually have like sixteen. Oh yeah, it's yeah.

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Speaker 3: No one really knows this, but they're all kind of hidden,

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Speaker 3: and they're all very dainty and small.

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Speaker 2: The biggest I have two big ones.

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Speaker 3: One is on my back and it's a skeleton wearing

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Speaker 3: cowboy boots, and then I have a dagger along my

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Speaker 3: one of my childhood friends. She has it in the

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Speaker 3: exact same spot, So that's kind of like our thing.

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Speaker 3: But I also like to think it has a double

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Speaker 3: meaning because I'm obsessed with Harry Potter, and if you're

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Speaker 2: So I got it for that and there's like a

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Speaker 1: Oh I love that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't see it in the post because it's

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Speaker 1: So you're kind of addicted to tattoos.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I want them all off my body and then

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Speaker 2: I love them. They are addicting.

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Speaker 1: I've been debating getting my first one lately. Don't Leslie,

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Speaker 1: I'm afraid to say anything in front of your girl,

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Speaker 1: know if I'm gonna hear about that later. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: Roll when I said I had sixteen.

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Speaker 3: But like once you once you have one, it's it's

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, maybe you'll be my inspiration. Maybe I

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Speaker 2: I'm all for it. You have my full approval.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good good, good, Well, I need to talk to

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Speaker 1: you about your character and heart eyes, heart eyes is

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Speaker 1: great for so many reasons. But I really liked your

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Speaker 2: I would like to think I am.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot like Alie. I feel like I

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Speaker 3: And I really love that when she meets Jay her

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Speaker 3: But I think she's a little bit more open in

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Speaker 3: I think that there's like a really beautiful layer in

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Speaker 2: But she really showcases her bad assery.

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Speaker 3: And I would like to think when I'm putting uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: And you're no stranger to horror, right, It's a genre

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Speaker 3: That I definitely have gotten into it more of my

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Speaker 1: Hard Eyes in particular. You've said is the most fun

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Speaker 3: Why so, Well, it all starts with a great script

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Speaker 3: And when I met with him before I signed on

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Speaker 2: Of the time not at home.

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Speaker 3: Like it's not in their space, it's not around their friends,

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Speaker 3: And you want it to feel like you wanted to

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Speaker 1: And you and Mason, I mean, the two of you

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Speaker 2: With someone like Mason who is so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's that's a level of trust you have

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, every time every time I go and

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Speaker 1: Did you feel like you ever had to work extra

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Speaker 3: the child actors, by the time their show is wrapping up,

445
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 3: they're turning eighteen, and so you're also trying to figure

446
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:52,640
Speaker 3: out who you are as a person and a young adult,

447
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 3: like stepping into like your late teens, early twenties, and

448
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 3: that also messes.

449
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 2: With your head because you're like, oh, oh.

450
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 3: This is I've been this kid on this show, this

451
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,640
Speaker 3: thing that somebody has known me from for so long,

452
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,959
Speaker 3: and now that that's ending, who am I?

453
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 2: Not only as an actor, but who am I? Like

454
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 2: my very core?

455
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 3: And that's also a really challenging thing to just dump

456
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 3: on you too. Is this like chapter of your life

457
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 3: is ending?

458
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 1: So how are you so normal? But you're sitting here

459
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: so together. I'm like, I don't know if I would

460
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: be if I went through all of that. I'm just saying,

461
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:28,640
Speaker 1: you must surround yourself with good people.

462
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 3: No, I definitely, Yeah, I would say that's a huge

463
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 3: part of it. I have an amazing, supportive family. I

464
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 3: don't know where I would be without them. They're definitely

465
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 3: a huge part of who I am today. And a

466
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 3: lot of it, yeah, is surrounding myself with great friends.

467
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 3: And I've definitely had to, like, you know, go through

468
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 3: like the weaving out of who those people are and

469
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 3: I still am and it's and it doesn't get easier,

470
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,919
Speaker 3: but it definitely grounds me in a real way. And

471
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 3: I feel very lucky for them because they're the people

472
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 3: that I have to lean on.

473
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 2: In the hard moments.

474
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Speaker 1: Well, it's evident from an outside perspective, you're someone who

475
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: does the work right and you want to make sure

476
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: you're always kind of staying with your two feet on

477
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,719
Speaker 1: the ground and grounded in a very bizarre world that

478
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: you work in. Were there any people from the Disney

479
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: world or even the Nickelodeon world who were child actors

480
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: who transitioned as well that you looked up to, or

481
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: mentored or ever got a vice from to kind of

482
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 1: like feel us alone when you were going through this business.

483
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 3: Interesting, I I mean, there were definitely a lot of

484
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 3: people that I looked up to.

485
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 2: My sort of.

486
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 3: Generation of Disney that I watched was you know, the

487
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 3: the Miley Demi Selena era, And there is an actor

488
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 3: on Hannah Montana who played Miley's brother. His name is

489
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 3: Jason Earls, and Jason Earles actually came over to the

490
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 3: first show that I ever did, called Kicking It. I

491
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 3: was twelve years old when I started that show. I

492
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 3: had no idea what I was doing. I don't even

493
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 3: know how I booked the job. I did not think

494
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 3: I was a good actor, but he very quickly became

495
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 3: my mentor. He just sort of helped without telling us kids,

496
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 3: like how you're.

497
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 2: Going to do it and how it's going to be.

498
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 3: He sort of helped guide us in a really beautiful

499
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 3: way that made us feel comfortable and made us feel

500
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 3: respected as kids. And I don't even think I knew

501
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 3: what that meant at that time, But now looking back,

502
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 3: I owe so much of who I am to him

503
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 3: as an actor and as an artist, because.

504
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 2: He really helped. He really helped create.

505
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 3: Just such an awesome environment for us kids and a

506
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 3: safe place to go to if we were ever confused

507
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 3: or if we ever didn't know what was going on.

508
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 3: And I think he's just a really wonderful, talented person

509
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 3: and I'm very, very very grateful that he was.

510
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 2: He was a part of our show.

511
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 3: He was like our big brother, leading the way and

512
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 3: helping us navigate this crazy career path that we've chosen.

513
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: And he wasn't even part of it.

514
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 2: No, he was. He was an actor. He was as

515
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 2: he was in the show.

516
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he still took the time to do that

517
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: and help and mentor. Isn't an amazing when life puts

518
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: these like as I call them, angels in front of

519
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: you who you don't really know in the moments sometimes

520
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: what the purposes are, why you appreciate them and you

521
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: value them, but then you look back and you're like,

522
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: oh my god, if I didn't have that, I could

523
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: have maybe gone a few different ways.

524
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 3: Absolutely, he's definitely one of those people. He just very

525
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 3: clearly showed us the way without even what and I

526
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 3: liked he never like talked down to us. He never

527
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 3: talked to us like we were kids. And I very

528
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 3: quickly caught on too that because so many people on

529
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 3: that set, I mean, we were kids, so of course

530
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 3: people are going to talk to us like we're kids

531
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 3: and sometimes treat us like we're kids.

532
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: But he made us feel.

533
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 3: Like like like like we were one of him, like

534
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,959
Speaker 3: we were one of the big dogs. And that just

535
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 3: made that made me especially I was the only girl

536
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 3: on that set.

537
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 2: It's the only girl and a bunch.

538
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 3: Of teenage boys, and then Jason just like, yeah, he.

539
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: Was the best.

540
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 1: That's amazing, that's amazing. You you have so much to

541
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: be proud of. Like I said earlier, to be leading

542
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: your own studio film like this on such a grand

543
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: scale is something that is so hard to achieve, and

544
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: you're doing it and you put in the work over

545
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: your career to be doing it. You're part You're part

546
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: of so many fan favorite projects, And when I announced

547
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: you as my guest, people were commenting and writing and

548
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: they were just so exciting seeing where your fan bases

549
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: are from. You know, like Cruel Summer, The fandom of

550
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: that is incredible.

551
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

552
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: Do you know? All over TikTok people are creating videos

553
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: hoping and praying that you'll come back for another season.

554
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: Have you seen those? You have seen those?

555
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 3: Yeah? I have?

556
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: Is that something you would ever do? Or you think

557
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 1: you've kind of moved on?

558
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 3: I loved that show, and I also love that so

559
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 3: many people loved it and that they're still wanting more.

560
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 2: There's a world where I do feel like that story is.

561
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 2: I like the way that it ended.

562
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 3: Sometimes, you know, when you don't don't mess up something

563
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 3: that's already that's already really great. But then there's like

564
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 3: this other part of me that's like, man, we could

565
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 3: really we could really dive in on these characters and

566
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 3: just like build a whole world around them, And I

567
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 3: also think that could be really fun. I don't know, though,

568
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 3: I'm not the creator, I'm not the writer. I'm just

569
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: the actor coming in but of course I have. Of

570
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 3: course I have. I'm not saying no. It would be

571
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 3: a pleasure to bring Kate back. And doing that show

572
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 3: was actually one of like the most fun biggest challenges,

573
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 3: going back and forth from three different time timelines every

574
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 3: single day was I mean, talk about running from set

575
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 3: to hair and makeup to your trailer to change into

576
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 3: a new costume. I mean that that felt like Hollywood

577
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 3: to me. That was I mean, it was the most wild.

578
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: And it just broke yesterday or two days ago that

579
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: you're teaming up with your on screen boyfriend from that show,

580
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 1: Freud Gutierrez again. That must be pretty cool. That's rare,

581
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: right to team up with people you've been on.

582
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: Other projects there, Yes, it's so rare.

583
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 3: I think Froy is so talented and he's also just

584
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 3: like such a kind and wonderful human being, and I

585
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 3: cannot wait to work with him again.

586
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: That's really cool. That's really cool. I also saw on

587
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: the TikTok. Look, I think I'm a TikTok expert. Now

588
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: I know, it's like recently got on because my agent's

589
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: like get on. So I'm trying to still figure it out.

590
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: But people want a cloak and Dagger movie. Oh a movie,

591
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: A movie?

592
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 3: Rad you're down for it all, I'm down for it all.

593
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 3: I'm so proud of that show. I was heartbroken when

594
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 3: we weren't coming back for a new season.

595
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: I really loved that show.

596
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 3: And I think so much of like going back to

597
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 3: the transitioning from being you know, a sitcom actor to

598
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 3: trying to figure out where you are in your young

599
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,479
Speaker 3: adult life to figuring out what's next in your career.

600
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: That was that time for me.

601
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,239
Speaker 3: Cloak and Dagger was the time where I it was

602
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 3: like my going into college years, like my version of

603
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 3: that because I think I was eighteen turning nineteen when

604
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 3: we shot the pilot, and then when we got picked

605
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 3: up to a series, I turned twenty oh wow, and

606
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 3: our second season I turned twenty one. So like that

607
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: chunk of time I feel like in your life is

608
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 3: such a It's such a huge moment because you really

609
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 3: are soaking up so much knowledge and trying to figure

610
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 3: out who you are and what you like and what

611
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 3: you don't like and what you're into and from you know,

612
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: deep rooted things like inside internally, but also just like

613
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 3: a whole like scale of what life can look like

614
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 3: for yourself and Cloak and Dagger was that time. So

615
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 3: I hold that time in my life and that show

616
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 3: in a very deep place in my heart.

617
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 2: That's why I have a dagger on my I.

618
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: Figured it as soon as you said that. I'm like, Yeah,

619
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: Cloak and Dagger boaking dagger, that's amazing.

620
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 2: I'd be down for a movie that sounds fun.

621
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: You're down for it all, like I said, for it all.

622
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: And music too, is so important to you. I know

623
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: that was your first love, and is that something you

624
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: still hope to get into as well a bit more.

625
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean music is my first love.

626
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 3: I've loved to sing ever since I was a little kid,

627
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 3: and I feel very grateful that I've gotten so many

628
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 3: incredible opportunities to make music over the course of my life.

629
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 3: Music is a very sacred thing to me. It feels

630
00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 3: very feels very personal, and when I start making music again,

631
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 3: I want it to feel authentic.

632
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: And I've had to learn.

633
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 3: Over the last ten years of making music what my

634
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 3: voice sounds like, and not only sonically, but also lyrically.

635
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 3: And I've worked with some really, really, really extraordinary producers

636
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 3: and writers on songs that I've done, and I just

637
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 3: I want that next chapter of music to feel the

638
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: most authentic to me is possible, And I don't know

639
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 3: what that quite looks like yet, but I am figuring

640
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 3: it out slowly but surely. And I really do want

641
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: to put out music and let that part of my

642
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: life be be something meaningful to me instead of just

643
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 3: dropping songs that I don't necessarily know if I believe

644
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 3: in or love.

645
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: Well, that's when the best magic happens, right when you

646
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: really full heartily do something for the right reasons, that's

647
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: when sometimes you reap the biggest rewards from it because

648
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: there's passion, yeah, which is the most amazing thing. I'm

649
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: sure you see people all the time comments and they

650
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: want more music, right boys. Yeah, I know.

651
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: It makes me so happy too that they and that

652
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 3: they've sort of stayed on this music journey with me

653
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: because it sort of has been a long one. But

654
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 3: I mean, like, I feel like you're watching so many

655
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 3: amazing artists pop off right now, but they've been doing

656
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 3: it for so long and it really takes it takes

657
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 3: a lot of hard work to get to those places.

658
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 3: And I'm so proud of everyone that I've seen now

659
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 3: winning Grammys, and it just it really is. It really

660
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,719
Speaker 3: is an amazing It's a really tough career, so it's

661
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 3: amazing to see these people get to where they are now.

662
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I think Olivia. One thing that I'm so

663
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: impressed by is you've done so much in what I

664
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Speaker 1: think is a very short amount of time. And I

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Speaker 1: think sometimes when you're in it, it's hard to remember

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Speaker 1: that because you're kind of on the hamster wheel and

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Speaker 1: you're worried about what's next and what's coming in a

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Speaker 1: very tough business. But are you able to sit back

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Speaker 1: sometimes and reflect on everything that you've achieved and feel like, wow,

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Speaker 1: like I'm doing it. I'm actually making my wildest dreams

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Speaker 1: come true instead of just worrying all the time about

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Speaker 1: what's next.

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Speaker 3: It's actually funny that you mentioned this, because I feel

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Speaker 3: like I'm having one of those moments right now.

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Speaker 2: I've never had a theatrical release.

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Speaker 3: I've never had a movie come out in theaters, and

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Speaker 3: ever since I was a kid, I would go to

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Speaker 3: the movies every single weekend with my family, and the

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00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 3: experience of walking up to a theater and seeing a

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Speaker 3: poster of a movie that I'm in is.

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Speaker 2: I don't know any other term other than dream come true.

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Speaker 3: And it's like I get goosebumps thinking about it, because

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Speaker 3: this really is like one of those moments in my

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Speaker 3: life that I can't rush. I just have to enjoy

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Speaker 3: it and soak it all up. And I was talking

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Speaker 3: to you about how many flights I've been on this week,

687
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Speaker 3: and it's so easy to just get caught up and

688
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 3: like you said, the hamster wheel of the rush and

689
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 3: trying to figure out, Okay, well, after this press run

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00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 3: is done, like what's next? What am I doing after

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Speaker 3: that thing is done? And I like to take pride

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Speaker 3: in the fact that I am a very present person

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Speaker 3: and I do like to take moments and it's no

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Speaker 3: particular routine or part of my day, but in the

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Speaker 3: moments that I really feel the wash of gratefulness come

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Speaker 3: over me, I like to just take a beat and

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Speaker 3: just yeah, I count my blessings because it really is

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Speaker 3: a challenging career and every job that I go on,

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Speaker 3: I still have pinched me in my dreaming moments because

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Speaker 3: it is my favorite thing to do. And yeah, I

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Speaker 3: think one of those moments is right now in my life.

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Speaker 1: I think I remember seeing a picture you posted of

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Speaker 1: you in it theater with the hard Eyes poster kind

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Speaker 1: of crouched down, and that's probably one of those moments.

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Speaker 3: The first time I saw it, really yeah, and I

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Speaker 3: was with my It was over the holidays and I

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Speaker 3: was with my parents and it was just my parents

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Speaker 3: and I and we were going to see a movie.

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Speaker 3: And I think I was like looking down at my

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Speaker 3: phone or something walking to the theater and I just

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00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 3: hear my mom gasp. She's like and I was like

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00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 3: what what what and she was like look, look, and

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00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 3: there was the Hard Eyes poster and it and I

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Speaker 3: was like kind of embarrassed to stand in front of

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Speaker 3: it while people were walking by.

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Speaker 2: But I also was like, guys, like, this is my

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Speaker 2: movie and it just it is.

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Speaker 3: It's like it's one of the most exciting and I

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00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 3: don't know if I'll ever have that. I hope that

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Speaker 3: I do, you know. I hope that I have like

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Speaker 3: another opportunity like that.

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Speaker 2: So I just got to soak it up.

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Speaker 3: I just got to be in the moment and enjoy

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Speaker 3: all of it as it comes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, soak it all in. I think you'll have many

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00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: other moments exactly like that, especially with this one. I

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00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: think it will be a franchise it's just so good,

728
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Speaker 1: and so I would be shocked if it's not a franchise.

729
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: But you got to soak in every single moment. And

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Speaker 1: as we wrap up, the name of the show is

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Speaker 1: I've never said this before, and it was born from

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Speaker 1: the idea of I work a lot of red carpets.

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Speaker 1: I do a lot of junkets. You're no stranger to them.

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Speaker 1: You get three minutes. If you're lucky on a carpet,

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Speaker 1: you get six minutes with somebody in a junket. And

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Speaker 1: I've always been more drawn to real conversation than just

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Speaker 1: headline based conversation or movie sound bites, you know. And

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Speaker 1: I saw longing from a lot of the people I

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00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: was talking you to just want to say a little extra,

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Speaker 1: something more, but just not having the time. So I'm wondering,

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Speaker 1: is there something that you can think of that you've

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Speaker 1: never said before that you want to share today?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think actually a lot of what we've been talking

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Speaker 3: about is these really special moments in your.

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Speaker 2: Life and.

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Speaker 3: How how important they are to you, and how they

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Speaker 3: build character for yourself. And I think it's important to

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Speaker 3: remember that even in some of the happiest and most

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Speaker 3: exciting moments, of your life. Sometimes there can be things

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00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 3: happening behind the curtain that aren't as exciting and that

752
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 3: are heavier and deeper. And I know that I've experienced

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00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 3: that a lot in the course of my career, and

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00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 3: I think that it's ok It's okay. I put a

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00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 3: lot of pressure on myself to play the part, to

756
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 3: play this is so exciting, and this is and it

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Speaker 3: is and it's all of those wonderful things.

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Speaker 2: But I also think.

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00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 3: It's okay to not be okay as well, and to

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00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 3: feel those feelings. And some of the happiest moments in

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00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 3: my life were also the most depressing moments in my life,

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Speaker 3: and I would.

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Speaker 2: Feel really guilty for that.

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Speaker 3: And I feel very grateful to have an incredible support

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Speaker 3: system around me who helped me lean into every moment

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Speaker 3: that I feel and make me feel heard and make

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Speaker 3: me feel seen.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's something that I.

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Speaker 3: Always really struggled with with what you're talking about the

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Speaker 3: three minutes or the six minutes, to try and get

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Speaker 3: out all of the things that you want to say

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Speaker 3: and not actually feeling like you said anything at all.

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Speaker 3: And I have learned to accept that everything that I

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00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 3: believe in, everything that I am passionate about everything that

775
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 3: I feel, even if I feel too much, that it's

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Speaker 3: okay and that I am enough.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I think that's it.

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Speaker 1: I think that's it very well said. I love that

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Speaker 1: last part, I am enough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So often we forget that, you know.

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Speaker 2: I think we do.

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00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 3: We get caught up in what we think we're supposed

784
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 3: to be or I don't know, be trick ourselves. Sometimes

785
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 3: we have syndrome. I get that a lot. But yeah,

786
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 3: I think to remind myself that I am enough.

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Speaker 1: And one last question based off of that, because I

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00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: think it's so important when I have young artists on

789
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: like yourself, how do you tune out that noise to

790
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: focus on you and not let other people dictate who

791
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: you should or shouldn't be.

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Speaker 3: It's a really, really tricky thing to do. I've learned

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00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 3: to really lean into shifting my perspective and lean on

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00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 3: to the things that bring me joy and that make

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00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 3: me feel confident, because I think it's so easy to

796
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 3: doom scroll and to compare yourself to so many people

797
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 3: that you see on the internet, so easy to fall

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00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 3: into that trap.

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Speaker 2: I do it very often.

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00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 3: Sometimes I'll catch myself doing it and I'll throw my

801
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 3: phone across the room. But to remind yourself of the

802
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 3: things that make you feel good and make you feel

803
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 3: beautiful and make you feel confident, and that also can

804
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 3: be a very hard thing to do. But sometimes I

805
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 3: repeat it in my head, like the things that I

806
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 3: like about myself until I start believing it, and that

807
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 3: can sometimes be helpful. I feel like everyone has like

808
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 3: a little different trick to what helps them, but I

809
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 3: think that's something that really helps me. Well.

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Speaker 1: I kind of love that more. I couldn't adore you more.

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Speaker 1: Mason was right, because like, you're gonna have so much

812
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: fun with her. She's the best, and I just I

813
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Speaker 1: think everything you've built in your career you should be

814
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Speaker 1: so proud of. This movie is fantastic. I predict it

815
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Speaker 1: will be a huge success. Everybody, go out and see

816
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Speaker 1: Heart Eyes. It is out now, and congratulations, I hope

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Speaker 1: you come back.

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Speaker 2: Thank you me too, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: It's just so nice.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I've never said this before. Is hosted by

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Speaker 1: Me Tommy Diderio. This podcast is executive produced by Andrew

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Speaker 1: Publisi at iHeartRadio and by Me Tommy, with editing by

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