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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Zaren No Wake up. Hey, I was not sleeping my

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Speaker 2: eyes or just kidding.

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Speaker 3: Me, Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: I know you, yeah, you do.

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Speaker 3: You know what's ridiculous?

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Speaker 2: I do? Clyde, Oh okay, you know, like I bring

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Speaker 2: this up often karate masters.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you did, ye right?

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Speaker 2: So I found this headline quote humans are no match.

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Speaker 2: End quote says japan karate master who fended off two

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Speaker 2: bears advises caution. Oh right, so I thought this was awesome. Right.

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Speaker 2: There's this story of this dude's Matsato Fukuda. He's fifty

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Speaker 2: years old, Japanese cat. He lives up in Hokkaido, like

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Speaker 2: the top of Japan. Right, So he's out he said

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Speaker 2: he's wanted to go out to these falls, the Yyoko

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Speaker 2: Falls apparently spectacular, I don't know, okay, And he's going

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Speaker 2: out there. He wanted to see the winter snow mills. Right.

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Speaker 2: So we were in April and he's out there. The

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Speaker 2: road narrows. He gets out. He's walking and he's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: is the waterfall ahead? And he hears some rustling. All

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, ow it comes these bears. He's like, oh, no,

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Speaker 2: like black bears. He's like, yeah, it was like it's on, right.

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Speaker 2: He sees them, they see him, and these ones they're

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Speaker 2: like five feet six feet tall bears, right, big enough

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Speaker 2: that they can mess him up and most likely, you know,

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Speaker 2: probably kill him. So what does he do? He remembers, Oh,

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Speaker 2: if you turn your back, they'll chase you. So he

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Speaker 2: watches the bears and he keeps eyes on them, and

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Speaker 2: he backs up and then doesn't matter. The bear circle

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Speaker 2: behind him. So now it's on. So what does the

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Speaker 2: karate master do? Elizabeth?

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Speaker 3: He should make noise and make himself look bigger.

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Speaker 2: He does karate.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, he says, if I'm going to be attacked,

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Speaker 2: So he goes and I don't know how I love

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Speaker 2: this line. He also used a pair of scissors that

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Speaker 2: happened to have he happened to have on him to

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Speaker 2: apparently the scissors ended up cutting his hand right because

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Speaker 2: they glanced off the bear. The bears moving, not standing still,

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Speaker 2: it's not working out. So then he has to go

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Speaker 2: just and count on his karate. So now it's just

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Speaker 2: him two bears in his karate. So he does it right.

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Speaker 2: He punches one bear and then he says, quote, my

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Speaker 2: attack wasn't effective at all, but it seemed to make

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Speaker 2: the bears flinch for a moment. Like he punches one

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Speaker 2: bear and he does a flying kick on another bear.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the bears retreat and then fakuda, my man.

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Speaker 2: He goes and gets close to his car because he

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Speaker 2: still hasn't left his car. He hasn't made it to

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Speaker 2: he slams the door and the bears run off. Now

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Speaker 2: the thing is it's funny, is he's not a karate master.

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Speaker 2: That was just stuf that the press threw in. What yes,

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Speaker 2: he's like he mentioned occasionally that he had done karate

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Speaker 2: and he was in junior high school. He's like, I

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Speaker 2: did karate. That's how much karate. He has exactly as

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Speaker 2: much karate as I do. But everyone was like, oh yes,

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Speaker 2: so tell me karate fighter guy, and they all turned

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Speaker 2: and he resented it. He was like, you know, basically,

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Speaker 2: not a karate fighter. And he didn't want other karate

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Speaker 2: fighters to come and be like, hey man, you, why

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Speaker 2: So how ridiculous? Is that?

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Speaker 3: Very ridiculous? Do you want to know what else is ridiculous? Ever?

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Speaker 3: Thinking that safety deposit boxes are actually safe?

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Speaker 4: Huh?

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Speaker 3: This is ridiculous crime A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists,

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Speaker 3: and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder free and

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: You damn right, zaren.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what the biggest heist in modern history was?

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Speaker 2: Is it in Brazil?

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Speaker 3: I'll go ahead and tell you as a little treat

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Speaker 3: it was in two thousand and three. It was in Iraq,

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Speaker 3: that's the one. Yes, it was pulled off by Khusey Hussein.

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Speaker 3: like brother of fail sons. So the US invaded Iraq

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Speaker 3: March nineteenth, two thousand and three. On March eighteenth, Kusey

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Speaker 3: He had with him a handwritten note from his dad,

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Speaker 3: Saddam Hussein. The note demanded one billion dollars with a

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Speaker 2: That's a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot. It's considered to be the largest heist

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Speaker 3: in modern history, one billion dollars. There's some who say

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Speaker 3: that since Saddam Hussein was an absolute dictator.

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Speaker 2: I'm still in power at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he had every right to take the cash. And

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Speaker 3: there is speculation that the money might have been his

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Speaker 2: Sure, we'll call them his thought from other people.

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Speaker 3: So the US government, they figured he was trying to

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Speaker 3: like move the cash over the border to keep it

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Speaker 3: special forces near the border with Syria, they saw trucks

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Speaker 3: soon after. Others thought Hussain was using the money to

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Speaker 3: go around paying castle. That's what a lot of Iraqi's thought, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: To fight the Northern Front people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there was enough cash to pay to get

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's always there's enough get them to London or where.

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Speaker 3: After the heist, coalition forces tracked down about six hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifty million dollars of the bank's camp. Really yeah,

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Speaker 3: where was it, Sarah? Where was it was in Udai's palace?

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Speaker 3: One of them, Udai, Kusse and Saddam all met violent ends.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's war.

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Speaker 3: But three hundred and fifty million dollars of the cash

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Speaker 2: Cast Wait, I've seen three kings.

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Speaker 3: In two thousand and four, the US flew almost twelve

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Speaker 3: billion dollars in shrink wrapped one hundred dollars bills into

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Speaker 3: Iraq and lost it. Yeah. About that's about two hundred

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Speaker 2: Have you ever seen them on the palace? Oh?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Whears of cash.

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Speaker 3: They would fly from New York to Bagdad in these

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Speaker 3: Where did all this cash come from? Great questions, Aaron.

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Speaker 2: Where did is all this cash come from? Elizabeth?

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Speaker 3: It came from Iraqi oil sales, surplus funds from the

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Speaker 3: a government memorandum that was prepared for the House Committee

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Speaker 3: a two million dollar payment in a duffel bag stuffed

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Speaker 3: key to a vault was kept in an unsecured backpack,

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Speaker 3: and then quote they also found that seven hundred seventy

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Speaker 3: in unguarded sacks in Iraqi ministry offices. One official was

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Speaker 3: Iraqi government took control of Iraqi funds.

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Speaker 2: It's like brewsters millions of rock.

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Speaker 3: Six point seven million got a week to burn it.

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Speaker 3: There are these minutes from a May two thousand and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they reveal quote a single disbursement of five

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Speaker 3: Some of the funds could have enriched both criminals and

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Speaker 3: these payouts, and that is not what happened. No, they

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Speaker 3: hired a quote obscure consulting firm called north Star Consultants Incorporated.

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Speaker 2: Oh in San Diego and San Diego.

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Speaker 3: So it looks like American officials didn't care what happened

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Speaker 3: to the cash because it wasn't US tax payer money. Yes,

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Speaker 3: and they were basically burning Iraqi assets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like black box money.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So in those same minutes, retired Admiral David Oliver

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Speaker 3: nor do I actually think it's important. Wow, they said

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Speaker 3: to him, quote, but the fact is billions of dollars

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, what difference does it make?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 2: So they really were just like because it's their money

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Speaker 2: and this is therefore it's like casino money and still money.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So that that Central Bank of Iraq job is

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Speaker 3: pretty much considered the biggest heist on record, even if

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Speaker 3: it does kind of the military right thread thread the

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Speaker 3: notion that Saddam's thing threading the notion of legality.

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Speaker 2: I'm going with the other one.

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Speaker 3: I'm going, what's the second biggest tyston.

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Speaker 2: The one you just said is also that one they're together. No,

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Speaker 2: it's in Brazil, right in Brazil.

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Speaker 3: That would be the Bonco Central burglary in Brazil. That

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Speaker 3: one was for about seventy million dollars. It went down

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Speaker 3: right by the Brazilian Central Bank.

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Speaker 2: I think this kind of inspired the fast and the furious.

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Speaker 2: Oh did it seriously? They have a big heightst well

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Speaker 2: so over police station.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Over three months, the heist crew tunneled through more

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Speaker 3: than two hundred and fifty five feet of dirt and concrete.

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Speaker 3: And then remember they had that landscaping company, so like

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Speaker 3: no one suspicious of excavators or like truckloads of soil.

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Speaker 2: Being driven off the property.

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Speaker 3: So they got into the bank. They disabled the security systems.

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Speaker 3: They busted through three and a half feet of steel

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Speaker 3: reinforced concrete to get into the bank vault. That's crazy.

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Speaker 3: So now you know it's the central bank.

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Speaker 2: So they had a powerful lance.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so they're in control of the money supply at

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Speaker 3: this bank. All of the money in the.

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Speaker 2: Normal lance and a powerful jet exactly get it.

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Speaker 3: Right, So all the money in the vault was supposed

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Speaker 3: Bills they're not in sequence, and that means they can't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a grocery store money, perfect.

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Speaker 3: But you know, a tonneal job is always ridiculous. And

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Speaker 2: Wait, wait to go. You know what, the top two

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Speaker 3: Lot of blood. I know you like numbered lists.

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Speaker 2: I love them.

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Speaker 3: So what's the third?

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Speaker 3: That's the third largest bank?

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Speaker 2: Ice, the third largest bank? Hest is it in? It's

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Speaker 2: not the same brings? Is it? The train rod? It's

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Speaker 3: It was a heist London. It was are you going

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Speaker 3: It was in London and it was pulled off by

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Speaker 3: No, So I'm talking about the Knightsbridge security deposit robbery

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Speaker 3: So I've done my share of British heists, and by

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 3: So, in the Knightsbridge security deposit robbery, the crew made

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Speaker 3: off with sixty five million dollars. That's a lot of deposits.

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Speaker 3: So the robbery took place July twelfth, nineteen eighty seven,

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Speaker 2: I've been there.

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Speaker 3: There was there was, as there always is in a heist,

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Speaker 3: This time it was an Italian criminal named Valerio Vizzi.

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Speaker 2: Valario Vizi.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now, Valerio. He had already been involved in a

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Speaker 2: Regis Philbin.

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Speaker 3: Yes, how did you get that one?

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Speaker 3: Irish Pope Innocent the seventh.

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Speaker 3: And you know who else? Roman? Covid Avid Roman, author

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Speaker 2: Yes, true, appropriate. Oh, it's very that's it's timeless advice.

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Speaker 3: So sulmona beautiful town according to Google street View. Can

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Speaker 2: Did you Google street view this one? Did you take

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Speaker 3: Of course? And of course I want to go there,

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Speaker 2: Among mountains in the he recommended.

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Speaker 3: You know, the town was leveled by an earthquake in

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Speaker 3: Ten years after the end of that war.

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Speaker 2: A boy was born, a boy val Hey, a man.

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Speaker 3: He started criming young, okay, and he came from a

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Speaker 3: So as a young man in the nineteen seventies, and

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Speaker 2: Even throughund the sixties. And come on, they got a run,

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Speaker 3: Decade run in fifties too, so we'll four decade run.

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Speaker 2: Really tough time. The warriors were tough, but other than that,

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Speaker 3: I've been getting into the genre of Itallo disco.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I keep talking about this. How you digging it?

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Speaker 3: I'd say it was out of left field for me,

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Speaker 3: good Italo disco essentials set on Apple Music. It's a

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Speaker 3: or conducting drug deals out of a ferrari.

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Speaker 2: There you go. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, as young guy Vale, he became involved in

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Speaker 3: he and an Italian right wing terror group blew up

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, so there's that. Okay, there's that. He was

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Speaker 3: He was known for his intelligence. That guy was super smart,

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Speaker 2: Oh, they're like, how do you do it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Tell us more. The cops are like closing in

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Speaker 3: And at this point he'd been involved in like fifty

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Speaker 3: Zaren Where did he go?

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Speaker 2: New Italy?

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Speaker 3: I have no idea. I was hoping you knew you.

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Speaker 3: He went to London. This is nineteen eighty five, so

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Speaker 3: new place, new Valerio. Yes, not on your life, son.

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Speaker 3: In fact, he stepped it up a little. Yes, let's

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Speaker 3: meet up with Valerio in London, all right. So we

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Speaker 3: met Valerio Vizzi bank Robert Italiano. He looks about how

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Speaker 3: you'd imagine, by the way, not the tallest fella.

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Speaker 2: Yes, does have kind of flowncy hair.

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Speaker 3: He has a head of like thick, lustrous black hair,

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Speaker 3: a bit of a widow's piece.

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Speaker 2: Oh perfect, Harry chest I don't care about that, but whatever,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, his eyebrows refused to be parted and they reach

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Speaker 3: He could easily be an extra on The Sopranos, which

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't ever watch it.

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Speaker 3: You've never seen it.

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Speaker 2: I'm just going to take it from you, right.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So now let's direct our attention to the Knightsbridge

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Speaker 2: Please.

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Speaker 3: It's located directly across the street from Harrod's department store

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Speaker 2: I've literally been the I got put up there, stayed

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Speaker 2: inherits No, No, they're in that neighborhood. Was right where

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Speaker 3: Okay. So the deposit center, it was in a basement

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Speaker 3: So if this sounds familiar, let's not forget the Lloyd's

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Speaker 2: The Sexy Beast one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was about two and a half miles from

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Speaker 3: And then there was Hatton Garden twenty twelve.

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Speaker 2: So what about Vale, Yes, how's he going to make

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Speaker 3: He knew exactly what it took to pull it off.

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Speaker 3: He was familiar. Yeah, he was familiar with these kind

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Speaker 3: Of course, he drove a white Ferrari Mondialo and I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got my friend's nickname, yes, but.

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Speaker 3: They also called him Gigi. That was like his main nickname.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I've got an ant. This guy's like running parallel

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Speaker 3: He did a lot of coke.

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Speaker 2: This guy out of a Ferrari with my aunt's name.

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Speaker 3: So he romanced a lot of women.

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Speaker 2: This guy with.

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Speaker 2: Maybe here and there are they going to shoot the boxing?

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Speaker 3: They had all this attention to details. So on July twelfth,

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Speaker 2: Oh, so you're only working with his countryman.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well and then you'll see but mostly yeah, attack

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Speaker 3: So he enters the facility, he's pretending to rent a

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Speaker 3: So Latif he brings these two dudes in with their

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Speaker 3: make sure it was up to their standards and their.

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00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 2: Knees no blind spots in the cameras.

443
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 3: So all of a sudden, though, Digny's got a gun

444
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 3: pressed in his face. And so while they todd guns,

445
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,919
Speaker 3: they had no intention of ever using them, like Gigi

446
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 3: didn't want bloodshed. Yes, so Gigi and Conferto they send

447
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 3: Latif back out to the front to lock the doors

448
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 3: so that they don't get any interruptions, but not before

449
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,640
Speaker 3: letting in a few more members of the heist crew. Okay, yeah,

450
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 3: and then they even put a closed sign on.

451
00:21:58,640 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 2: The door, handmade.

452
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so this like bought them ours. And as

453
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 3: you can guess, Latif was in on the whole thing.

454
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 2: Oh, I did not have that.

455
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 3: In it seems like he was looking for an insurance scam.

456
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 3: And he was also Gigi's coke buddy.

457
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,439
Speaker 2: Uh oh, yeah, you totally by me. I did not

458
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 2: see the coke connection.

459
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 3: But yeah, so Latif he had opened the safe deposit

460
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,119
Speaker 3: center with a silent partner. He actually he bought it

461
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 3: from another guy, but in sixteen months. Yes, it had

462
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 3: an operating loss of four hundred and seventy thousand pounds,

463
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 3: oh my god. And his overdraft was running just over

464
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 3: like fifty grand. So he was happy to disable the

465
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 3: alarms and the gang had plenty of time to work,

466
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 3: so he allowed himself to be chained up, you know,

467
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 3: in the lobby, while the gang smashed open security boxes

468
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 3: in the basement. So we've got Valerio Vici, Patadi Conferto,

469
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 3: David Poole. He was an unemployed caterer. Okay, Peter o'donnegh,

470
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 3: you an unemployed mechanics.

471
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 2: That catered the break in. Yeah, we're going to need

472
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 2: a cater We're going to drive fruit plate.

473
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 3: They're Italians, israel Pinkus, who was an Israeli antique stealer,

474
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:17,479
Speaker 3: and then another guy known only as Eric, and then

475
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 3: and then there was Eric. So some of them were

476
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 3: inside somewhere outside.

477
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 2: K name Eric.

478
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 3: Eric, he's like the super Italian. So all of them,

479
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 3: they're working hard to pop them boxes. They worked at

480
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 3: it for hours. They were prying the boxes open with

481
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 3: as you said, crowbars of them, and so Digney he

482
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,400
Speaker 3: could hear the banging on the boxes and the boxes

483
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 3: popping open, and then he would hear voices shouting bingo,

484
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 3: like look what I've got.

485
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 2: I shouldn't say that, but you know, you know how

486
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 2: it goes.

487
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,479
Speaker 3: So the hall would have been much bigger if one

488
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 3: of the crew members outside had been able to operate

489
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 3: his walkie talkie radio. Oh yeah, he kept pressing the

490
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 3: wrong button. And then they had to bail, even though

491
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 3: there were still hundreds of unopened boxes, having all this

492
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 3: cash and jewels. Uh, Gigi was so pissed about this

493
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 3: that he threatened to quote find the man by deducting

494
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,199
Speaker 3: thirty thousand pounds from his cut. That's fair, right, So

495
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 3: even so, the gang hauled out four suitcases and eight

496
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 3: large green bags four feet high full of stuff.

497
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 2: Damn.

498
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 3: One of the bags was full of just money, just cash.

499
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 3: So while in the vault, Gigi made a mistake. He

500
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 3: cut his hand. See some of the tools failed and

501
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 3: he started but he just started smashing boxes with his fish,

502
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 3: with his fists, and he left behind bloody fingers.

503
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 2: I thought he was doing it.

504
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 3: You get tired he punching stuff.

505
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 2: Oh that's not good.

506
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 3: He left behind bloody fingerprints, which is a total amateur fingerprints.

507
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 2: They didn't even do it your DNA testing with bloody.

508
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,479
Speaker 3: Finger bloody fingers. So that's what he left behind. But

509
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 3: what did he take?

510
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 2: What did he take? Elizabeth?

511
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 3: They busted open one hundred and forty six boxes. This

512
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 3: place list have been huge. They pulled out what was

513
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 3: dubbed a quote colossal haul of cash, So millions in

514
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 3: cash and in all different currencies too, not just in

515
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 3: British pounds, millions in diamonds, all this exquisite jewelry, gold, bricks,

516
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 3: gold jewelry.

517
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 2: Imagine some blackmailed uh.

518
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: Oh information, expensive paintings and statues.

519
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: Oh right, and statues.

520
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 3: Wow, two kilos of cocaine. Someone was keeping two kilos

521
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 3: of cocaine in here, so his own gigi's own attorney

522
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 3: would later say of it, quote, it was a large

523
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 3: amount of loot by any standards. Enough jewelry to satisfy

524
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 3: a coach load of Elizabeth Taylor's, enough cash to fill

525
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 3: a bathtub, and diamonds all over the floor. And weren't

526
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 3: the victims of this robbery a rum bunch with millions

527
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 3: and pounds of jewelry kept in locked box just for

528
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 3: the odd night out? Who worthy people? Twenty of them

529
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 3: would not come forward three totally refused to make statements,

530
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 3: and seventeen owners were never found. Among their number were

531
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 3: quite a few shady people. So he's like, victim blame.

532
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 2: I'm just about to say this, like the one time

533
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 2: we're like vick them blaming. I'm like, well, the man

534
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 2: has a blank, Like, can we just hear him out?

535
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 3: Well, we saw this with all the other safety deposit

536
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 3: box heists that we've talked about. There's always a significant

537
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 3: number of box holders who don't want to come forward.

538
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 2: Most of them, it seems like near half.

539
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 3: That's one of the things I love about them.

540
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 2: And I love the discretion.

541
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 3: I love crimer on crimer crime.

542
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's good stuff.

543
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 3: So after the heist.

544
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 2: And you don't want to call the police when you've

545
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: been wronged, yeah, exactly, like.

546
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 3: A little just good, I'll take us to own business.

547
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 3: After the heist, the crew go to their safe house,

548
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 3: which they called the Flop Flop Yeah in Hampstead, and

549
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 3: there's this old Italian man answers the door okay, and

550
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 3: a lot of people and the crew thought it was

551
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 3: Gigi's father, the attorney, but like it was never full

552
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 3: and he was never identified. He just like took off

553
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 3: later back to Italy.

554
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: Really the guy who ran the flop. Nobody ever learned

555
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 2: what Lundy was.

556
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 3: So that they carry all the looten completely. So they carry

557
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 3: all the loot up. They filled the bathtub with money,

558
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 3: like right up to the top, and they just rolled

559
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 3: around and punctiously.

560
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 2: I wanted to get dirty.

561
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 3: Wanted everything split up and like divided into its different

562
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 3: types of stuff. He wanted it organized, watches together, all

563
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 3: the rings, the firs, the necklaces. There was one briefcase

564
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 3: that was filled just with diamonds.

565
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: A briefcase, a briefcase of diamonds, loose diamonds.

566
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 3: There's so many diamonds, yeah, loose diamonds that like weeks later,

567
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 3: one of the crew members is at the flop and

568
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 3: he finds diamonds like still scattered on the floor, parts

569
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 3: of the rug, the thick red carpet diamond exactly. So

570
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: in the weeks following the robbery, the crew they traveled

571
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 3: all over the world in all these attempts to like

572
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 3: hide the hall and make deals on the diamonds, the gold,

573
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 3: the jewelry.

574
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 2: Oh, all their different fences. They're going like internationally for fence.

575
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Israel Pinkas. He flew to Tel Aviv and

576
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 3: he opened a bunch of different bank accounts and he

577
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 3: deposited sums in each of them at like fifty grand,

578
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 3: thirty grand. Peter O'donahue he flew to the US and

579
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 3: basically did the same thing. David Pool went to France.

580
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 3: On their returns, those two both opened safety deposit boxes

581
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 3: in London. O'donahue put O'donnahue put eighty four thousand.

582
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: Anyone knows that's not safe.

583
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 3: It's right. Pool put almost thirty grand in his. The

584
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 3: missed up there is that the cash that they put

585
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 3: in there was still in bank wrappers that would be

586
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 3: able to trace to the busted box. Yeah, so they

587
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 3: didn't even bother to take the wrapping off.

588
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 6: Wow.

589
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 3: Gg flew to Switzerland and deposited two hundred thousand pounds

590
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 3: in a bank, and then he bought half a million

591
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:01,479
Speaker 3: Swiss francs.

592
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: Did the Swiss ask any questions when you show up

593
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: with money? They might just take it. We'll take it.

594
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: You want some chocolate, go go.

595
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 3: Off, you go. He goes back to Britain, opens the

596
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 3: safe deposit box in Park Lane. He deposited the barretta

597
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 3: pistol used in the raid. No false passport, no, and

598
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 3: the half million Swiss francs and then like fifty two

599
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 3: thousand pounds in cats.

600
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: And like a signed picture of him with his address

601
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: on back and then the.

602
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 3: Bloody thumb, the double up, and he drove around in

603
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 3: his ferrari and he stayed in the luxury hotel, and

604
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 3: then he flew to Antwerp to negotiate the sale of

605
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 3: five diamonds for one million dollars or one million pounds. Yeah,

606
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 3: so he sold five diamonds on that hand. And the

607
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 3: diamonds they had been sold for seven hundred and fifty

608
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 3: two thousand on the black market to a Belgian dealer

609
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 3: who was supposed to be acting like for an international group.

610
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 3: So they're just like you said, international fences. The diamonds

611
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 3: belonged to Donatella Flick, who was a London based wife

612
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 3: of a member of a West German industrial family. So

613
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 3: they there are huge diamonds. After the deal, Gigi goes

614
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: to Luxembourg. It was five hundred and sixty eight thousand

615
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 3: pounds in a bank account.

616
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 7: There another great place for crime, another great and then

617
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 7: Luxembourg there was a big purchase that he made.

618
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 3: So he loved his white Ferrari Mondial, but he wanted

619
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 3: to go one better now. He used his ill gotten

620
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 3: gains to buy himself a black on black Ferrari Testarosa.

621
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: He loved.

622
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 3: Oh my god, he loved it.

623
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: I love his car like he.

624
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 3: But still there's the bloody fingerprint.

625
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 2: There is that over the star, always there.

626
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 3: The whole whole thing was just so bold. Broad Daylight

627
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 3: took their time, lifted what would be estimated to be

628
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 3: about seventy two point seventy five million pounds so much.

629
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 3: That was about ninety seven million dollars at the time,

630
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: which is the equivalent of two hundred and sixty eight

631
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 3: million dollars today. I'll take it right, So in just

632
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 3: a couple of hours, imagine. So obviously the banking industry

633
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 3: was just shook. They were they didn't know what to

634
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 3: do in the company.

635
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: Were they jealous?

636
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 3: Oh? The cops they turned it up to eleven to

637
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 3: catch these guys. Okay, do you know who they called in.

638
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: The flying squad?

639
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, that's right, Scotland Yard's flying on DCI pickle.

640
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

641
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: And as we've don.

642
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 3: The flying Squad, they take on the big stuff they

643
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 3: do armed robbery, organize crime, anything high profile. They're their

644
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 3: major case for yes to put him, and they aren't

645
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 3: tied to a specific precinct. They go where they want,

646
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: they do what they want.

647
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: You can't stop them cowboys.

648
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 3: There were complications, of course, so there were all those

649
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 3: people who wouldn't come forward to claim their losses, right,

650
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 3: and a lot of the stuff, especially like the large

651
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 3: sums of foreign currency that could be moved out of

652
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,719
Speaker 3: the country really quickly and then just like cashed in

653
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 3: and no one would notice you exchange it, no big deal.

654
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 3: So the Flying Squad they used good old fashioned shoe

655
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 3: leather police work, but they also pulled some CSI stuff

656
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 3: and such.

657
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 2: You love that stuff I do with cops.

658
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 3: So they worked the criminal underground for tips. And I'm

659
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 3: guessing like a lot of guys got slammed into dimly

660
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 3: lit pub walls by bill eager to be trench coated detectives.

661
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,959
Speaker 2: But what about the guys going to like shoe stands

662
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: and then going, here's five dollars, send me a little information,

663
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: here's ten dollars. They're just making like, you know, fifty

664
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: bucks on.

665
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 3: Shoeshine guy kind of looks back and forth and then

666
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 3: like you didn't hear it from me exactly. Well, like

667
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 3: the Flying Squad figured that like low lifes like this

668
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 3: crew wouldn't be able to help themselves when they had

669
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 3: all this cash.

670
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 2: They're going to spend it.

671
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 3: They're going to spend it. It's very good fellas.

672
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're buying the not wrong, they're not wrong.

673
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,239
Speaker 3: So the cops they watched high end car dealerships, they

674
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 3: kept their eyes on like real estate and posh neighborhoods

675
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: for new buyers who just like didn't belong. And then

676
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 3: there's the fingerprint hovering over us. With DNA technology and

677
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 3: fingerprint data from inner poll and the Italian police. The

678
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 3: cops identified Valeria.

679
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: Gigi the Italians because I'm sure the Italian authorities have

680
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 2: plenty of his fingerprints exactly.

681
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 3: So Gigi he had fled or he was getting ready

682
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 3: to flee to South America.

683
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: That's the move.

684
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he knew the heat would be on. He

685
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: wanted to take his cash.

686
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: Lilo for Europeans that seemed to be the maybe.

687
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 3: Plenty of coke, Yeah, something was nastcars, plenty of coke.

688
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 3: Someone was bugging them, was the black Ferrari Testarosa.

689
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: Oh, he couldn't get that to Argentina.

690
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 3: I loved that car. He wanted that car. It was

691
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 3: his baby, his bembin. So he's like trying to get

692
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: the ship information. He wants to ship it to South

693
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 3: America so they can be together forever.

694
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

695
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: So he's in London to kind of get the Ferrari

696
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 3: settled and shipped out. But police had been monitoring the vehicle.

697
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 3: They figured that he would want to come back for

698
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 3: this prize possession. Let's stop there. What's her ridiculous takeaway?

699
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 3: Oh wait, you gotta have friends stopping for ads. I'm

700
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 3: stopping friends. There's so much more to come back in

701
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 3: a flash.

702
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 2: Where were we, Saron, Italy? No, London, London?

703
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 3: Ah, yes, London. So the cops, yes, they're watching.

704
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: Gigi watching his car, My car, Our car, Our car.

705
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 3: The Bambino, the black Ferrari, Testa Rosa. In the hopes

706
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 3: that he would come back from wherever he was to

707
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,959
Speaker 3: get his baby. They also tailed all of his known associates,

708
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 3: and they all had something in common. They all contacted

709
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 3: the same pager number on a regular basis, and they

710
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 3: all came and went from a hotel in the Bayswater

711
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 3: area of London and the cops. They were also able

712
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 3: to identify Israel Pinkus's Mercedes and then they figured out

713
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 3: it had been towed after being parked illegally right outside

714
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 3: this hotel. So the cops go to the hotel and

715
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 3: they spot something something right outside. The black Ferrari testis zaren.

716
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 3: Close your eyes, I want you to picture it. You

717
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 3: are a member of the Flying Squad. Specifically, you are

718
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 3: Detective Inspector Dick Leech. You heard that the man heading

719
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 3: up the investigation into the heist. You are a copper's copper,

720
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 3: no nonsense, brilliant and you always get your man. You

721
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: and your team have been tailing the heist crew for

722
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 3: a while now, slowly building a case and working to

723
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 3: bust the mastermind. Valerio Vizzi. You are sitting outside of

724
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 3: a hotel in Bayswater in an unmarked vehicle. Traffic glides

725
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: by occasional hornhwks. You've sent one of the new guys

726
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 3: into the hotel with a photo of Gigi, whom you

727
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 3: now know as Gigi. The young detective trots back out

728
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 3: to the car and gets in the passenger seat. Yup,

729
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 3: He tells you hotel staff recognized him. He's got a

730
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 3: room there. You nod and pick up your radio and

731
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 3: forming the rest of the squad with a squawk that

732
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 3: this is indeed the place. You're just about to suggest

733
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: the young underling go run and get you guys some tea.

734
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 3: When you see a man exit the hotel, it's Gig

735
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 3: and he's headed for the Ferrari. The supercar roars to life.

736
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 3: Your detective whistles at the sound of the engine, but

737
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 3: you just roll your eyes. Gigi rolls down the window

738
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: and you can hear the euro Disco bumping from the

739
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 3: car's sound system. He pauses a moment and you turn

740
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 3: the ignition over on your Rover eight hundred. That baby

741
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 3: perd as Gg rolls his baby out into traffic. You

742
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 3: radio the team that you are on the move. Operation

743
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 3: Crest is coming to a climax. You pull into the

744
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 3: road and you tail the Ferrari at a safe distance.

745
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 3: As you follow the sleek black car, you can tell

746
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 3: that he feels he's being followed, and you're right. You

747
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 3: hit the straight away and he guns it. Patrol cars

748
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 3: swoop in and try to give chase. Siren's glaring. You

749
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 3: know this city like the back of your hand. You

750
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 3: see the Ferrari make a left, and you know it's

751
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 3: time to make your move. He's headed to a t

752
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 3: intersection and the only option is a one way street

753
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,479
Speaker 3: coming back your way. You hang a quick left onto

754
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 3: a side street. Your pulse is racing, but you're in control.

755
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 3: You are the Flying Squad for crying out loud, damn right,

756
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 3: You've timed it just right. You hear the Ferrari decelerate

757
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 3: in the narrow lane, thinking he'd outrun and Outsmarten all

758
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 3: those cop cars with the blues and twos whaling. But

759
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 3: he's wrong. You pop the Rover eight hundered out into

760
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 3: the lane and ram into the Ferrari as it glides

761
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 3: slowly by. You and the other detective jump out and

762
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 3: descend on Gigi. Another police car pulls up and the

763
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 3: officers join you in attempting to pull Gigi from the car.

764
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 3: He doesn't want to budge, so an officer runs back

765
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 3: to his car, pulls a crowbar from the boot and

766
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 3: smashes the windshield. Oh, Gigi gives up and you are

767
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 3: the hero of the day.

768
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:23,959
Speaker 2: Wow.

769
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like the unnecessary windshield bashing totally. The Ferrari.

770
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 3: They get searched. The police find bank deposit slips for

771
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 3: that Luxembourg bank jewelry worth hundreds of thousand dollars, and

772
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 3: then they also find thirty seven thousand pounds in cash

773
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 3: just hanging.

774
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: About and the car maybe a little bag of cocaine

775
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,959
Speaker 2: on the dashboard, just a little toot.

776
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 3: The car gets impounded by the Flying Squad. It only

777
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 3: had three thousand miles on it. Oh, by the way,

778
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: brand new, and there were only like a hundred of

779
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 3: these made, so it's it's peak. There are rumors that

780
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 3: the Flying Squad was using the car to pull off

781
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 3: quote Miamivice style raids. According to the Evening Standard newspaper,

782
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 3: we got a new whip, y'all d Leach. He denies it,

783
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 3: but the car had a smashed up windshield. And then

784
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 3: Dick Leach had this to say about it, quote I

785
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 3: don't like the car myself. It's like a space car,

786
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 3: space car.

787
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: I got a spaceship, a space car, space car, non

788
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 2: picturing cars.

789
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 3: That drive in space, like yeah, zooming and.

790
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: Some kind of vultron stuff. I don't know totally.

791
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 3: I found a message board called piston Heads, and someone

792
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 3: there asked about the car and whatever happened to it,

793
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,439
Speaker 3: and they even had a picture. Oh really, Oh yeah,

794
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 3: it'll be on Instagram. Someone on the board linked to

795
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 3: an Instagram post that explained how after the arrest the

796
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 3: car was sold at an auction in nineteen ninety so

797
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 3: off it went back.

798
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: It was sold for like how much under market?

799
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 3: It was huge, it was I can't remember. It was

800
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 3: not undermarket. It was over a lot because it was

801
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 3: like even rare. They fixed it up.

802
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: And it was part of crimes exactly. It had a story.

803
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 3: A lot of stuff came up in this investigation. The

804
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 3: trail even led to hatt and Garden.

805
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 2: What, yeah, did he connect to one of our hard men.

806
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 3: No, the Flying Squad found out that there was this

807
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 3: small metal company at hatt and Guarden. Remember there was

808
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 3: the safety deposit boxes in the basement, but then all

809
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 3: the jewelers. So someone took twenty six kilos of scrap

810
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 3: gold that had been melted down from the heist to

811
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 3: Hatton Garden try and sell. The trial was a total zoo,

812
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 3: absolute zoo, mainly because of all the crazy information that.

813
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 2: Came out closed the courtroom.

814
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well no, it was revealed that Gigi had

815
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 3: two girlfriends. Yeah, but that was that's sort of expect

816
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 3: maybe he was characterized as this total playboy, but it

817
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 3: came out that these were actually a fair partners and

818
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 3: they had they had actual boyfriends themselves, and who were

819
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 3: their other boyfriends. One of the women was dating Parves Latif,

820
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 3: the owner of the deposit center, and the other one's

821
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 3: boyfriend was fellow Highst crew member Peter o'donahue.

822
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 2: Wow.

823
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, so they were like polyamorous completely, and it's like,

824
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 7: so you find out all every every day there was

825
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 7: a new newspaper report of some crazy scandal from the court.

826
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 3: The ladies. Those ladies they got indicted too, Like I'm

827
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 3: bad everybody got indicted in this state. It's like it

828
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 3: seems like everyone in the underworld had a hand. And

829
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 3: I mean they were finding all sorts of stuff, like

830
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 3: they were tying it to like American drug dealers, and

831
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 3: they were tying it to you know, one of the

832
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 3: guys would like pay his ex wife for like childcare

833
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 3: with the money. And she was like an advertising person

834
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 3: at Sachi and Sachi really yeah, and she was like

835
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 3: I didn't know where the one I figured it was

836
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 3: stolen money, but like, hey, I got to pay for Chuck,

837
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 3: so the government determined to bust everybody. Gigi's lawyer took

838
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 3: a really interesting defense. Quote, but was this the crime

839
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 3: of the century, a meticulously planned and executed robbery planned

840
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 3: by a criminal mastermind? Look at mister Vicci. He leaves

841
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 3: his fingerprints and bloodstains all over the doors, flashes around

842
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 3: in a ferrari after the event with two million pounds

843
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 3: in the boot. Hardly a master criminal.

844
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 4: Is he?

845
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 3: Then he goes on to talk about how like the

846
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 3: men recruited for the job were bumbling incompetence is what

847
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 3: he called cou't they couldn't buy the right uniforms, they

848
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 3: couldn't operate the walkie talkies, and that they turned the

849
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 3: whole thing into a farce. He said, quote, was it,

850
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 3: therefore a robbery at all? Or was it, as my

851
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 3: client says, a conspiracy arranged by mister Latif to defraud

852
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 3: insurance companies, made to look like an armed robbery.

853
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 2: Wow?

854
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone's framed.

855
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: You know, supposed to defend you zealously. This is what

856
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 2: it looks like. That's crazy. He found an angle. I

857
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 2: did not see that coming.

858
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 3: These dudes are more.

859
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, look at these guys, my honor, my client is

860
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: an idiot. I had to tie his shoes, all right.

861
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 3: GG was ultimately found guilty. He got sentenced to twenty

862
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 3: two years in prison, and then he confessed to a

863
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 3: bunch of other London jobs. Oh yeah, and he was

864
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 3: given an additional seventeen years behind bars. Bro bad choice,

865
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 3: but they could run Concurrently, they asked him, why did

866
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 3: you confess?

867
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's me, I asked that question.

868
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 3: He told the detectives quote, I think life is a game.

869
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 3: When you realize you've lost, I think it's silly to

870
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 3: give aggravation to the winners.

871
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 4: Huh.

872
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 3: He's like, look, I know you got to close some stuff.

873
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 3: Let me help you. That's wild, right, So he gets

874
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 3: shipped off to Parkhurst Prison on the Isle of Wight.

875
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and people are people were pretty miffed at

876
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 3: how he was living it up there. The newspaper reports.

877
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 2: Are just goes out of care o garden.

878
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 3: Well yeah, no, he's a category A prisoner and that

879
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 3: he has, you know, more access to stuff. So his

880
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 3: girlfriend was bringing and this is just some blonde, I mean,

881
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 3: had rotating a woman. She was bringing him cash and

882
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 3: goods during her visits and like cash. That's pretty obviously

883
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 3: from the heights. Papers are like breathlessly telling, just like

884
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 3: a busted up safe deposit box with blood on the

885
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 3: side exactly. So like the papers are talking about how oh,

886
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 3: his life is so much better inside than most of

887
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 3: us on the outside. Like his breakfast was like eggs,

888
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 3: bacon and rolls, and it was brought from one of

889
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 3: the island's best hotels. And lunch he got like his parents, No,

890
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 3: that's part of what is cash. So he's like, yeah,

891
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 3: so he can get all the stuff, but he's not

892
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 3: paying for it.

893
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: The vault is paying exactly.

894
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 3: So he for lunch they give him, like, what's your

895
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 3: favorite pasta, Let me make it for you. They ordered

896
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 3: in his dinner from like top restaurants.

897
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: Pay for it, egg omelet for you exactly.

898
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 3: He had his own toilet and wash basin in his cell.

899
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 3: He took two showers a day.

900
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: I like that, respect make one of them a bath.

901
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: He wore silk boxer shorts from Harrod's also respect designer

902
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 3: label track suits and Gucci loafers, and like he needed

903
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 3: to keep busy, right, Like he's just lounging around, so

904
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 3: he would like fiddle around on a computer. He watched

905
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 3: satellite TV, and apparently he got like he would let

906
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 3: other prisoners watch TV with him, and then they were

907
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 3: asking like, can we get a D scrambler so we

908
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 3: can watch porn? And that's when the warden was like, okay,

909
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 3: I ve no. He would like he had a stereo.

910
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 3: He'd listen to his stereo. He he had a deck

911
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 3: chair in his own little garden on the prison dround.

912
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 3: We had a garden. And then he also exchanged letters

913
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 3: with d I Leach.

914
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: But I've seen The Gentleman by Guy Ritchie. I know

915
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: how this plays out.

916
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 3: So he's right, he's writing to Di Leach and they

917
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,280
Speaker 3: write back and forth, and they you were calling him

918
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 3: either Garfield or the Wolf. They had like nicknames for

919
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 3: each other, and Gigi called Leech Fred I don't even

920
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 3: bread and Garfield, Fred and Garfield or Fred and the Wolf.

921
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: And so they're just riding back and forth all the time. Okay,

922
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 3: this was obviously great. Sure Gg wanted more. He wanted

923
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 3: to go home, of course, I mean he's Italian, he's well, yeah,

924
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 3: so he put in for a transfer to an Italian prison.

925
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 3: UK government they were like happy to deport him and

926
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 3: have Italy pay for this incarceration. Okay, yeah, so off

927
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 3: he went. November eleventh, nineteen ninety two, Gigi's flown to

928
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 3: Italy and they like parade him out on the tarmac

929
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 3: at Heathrow and there's presses all there. Had a T

930
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 3: shirt like some of the reports said he was wearing it,

931
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 3: but I saw the pictures and he's not. But apparently

932
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 3: in his luggage he had a T shirt that said

933
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 3: I love Night's Bridge, so like a tourist shirt. Yeah.

934
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 3: So this is in November of ninety two. Earlier that

935
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 3: year he published a book Boom. It's called Knightsbridge, The

936
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 3: Robbery of the Century, and so in it he like

937
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 3: spills the beans about a lot of things, mainly like

938
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 3: exactly how he planned and then carried out the whole

939
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 3: heightst And then he also told about this affair that

940
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 3: he had with Lady Bien Vanita Buck. Lady Bien Vanita Buck.

941
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 3: It was the young Spanish wife of the elderly MP

942
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 3: Sir Antony.

943
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: Buck, lady and Lord Buck.

944
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Bien Vanita she was like a common sight

945
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 3: on his arm and like the wild days in West London,

946
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 3: she went out to visit him in jail on the

947
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 3: Isle of Wight, and then she came home and she

948
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 3: convinced her husband, Sir Anthony Buck, to talk to the

949
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 3: Home Office about getting Gigi sent back to Italy like

950
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 3: he wanted, and he did. He pulled strings, he helped

951
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 3: make it happen for his wife's venita. I guess they

952
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 3: divorced around that time too, So in Italy, his time

953
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 3: in jail was even better than that. He was sent

954
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 3: to what's called a quote open jail in the popular

955
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 3: seaside resort town of Piscata, close to his.

956
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 2: Hometown side resort town. Yeah, but it's like right on

957
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 2: the water, but the freshest seafood.

958
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 3: So because an open jail they have, the Italians have

959
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 3: this policy of like semi liberty. So he left in

960
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 3: the morning from jail and he could do whatever he

961
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 3: wanted during the day and then he had to check

962
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 3: back in at night.

963
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 2: You just have to sleep there.

964
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:38,439
Speaker 3: You just have to sleep there.

965
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 2: So they just want you to sleep in jail. That's

966
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 2: the punishment, the punishment. You can't sleep at home, are

967
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 2: you kidding?

968
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 3: He had like an apartment just outside of town.

969
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 2: So basically like the thing that children don't want to do,

970
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: or they're like I don't want to go to the

971
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 2: sleepover and they have to go, and they call their mom.

972
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: The mom and their dad is a drive across town

973
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: and pick them up. That's the Italian's.

974
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 3: Worst part, Italians worst punishment.

975
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 2: They're like, okay, you're gonna have to sleep only.

976
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 3: So far as he could drive out, but it was

977
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 3: something like sixty miles.

978
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 2: Sure, exactly. Those people don't Some people don't even go

979
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: fifty months past house their whole life.

980
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 3: He had like a fancy sports car that he drove

981
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 3: around a kid child, Yeah, completely like wearing designer clothes.

982
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 3: And then he'd just checked back into the prison at eleven.

983
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Italian crime is where it's at.

984
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 3: He would also occasionally get these like five days total

985
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 3: release what yeah, and they like furloughed. Yeah. So he

986
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 3: would like stay at a hotel, pala around with his

987
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 3: family and his friends. He wore Gucci clothes like Ferragamo

988
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 3: loafers and a Rolex.

989
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not like pro prison, but this is

990
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 2: wild toly wild.

991
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 3: He paid for things with a gold card. He was

992
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 3: just living it up and he always he always had

993
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 3: these new girlfriends every few days he's just living it up,

994
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 3: even though he had declared bankruptcy.

995
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: Is the next level above this, like the medium security prison.

996
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: It's like you don't get seconds at a meal. Is

997
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 2: that what that one is? You can't sleep at home,

998
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 2: you don't get second you don't And then the next

999
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: one's like a low securities You don't get to wear

1000
00:49:59,200 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 2: the outfit you want.

1001
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 3: I think so, I think so so. Remember I said

1002
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 3: he spilled a lot of beans in the book, but

1003
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 3: he didn't give up the location of the missing loot

1004
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 3: because only ten million pounds was recovered out of sixty

1005
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 3: five million.

1006
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1007
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, so some thought he'd buried it in London at Hampstead.

1008
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 3: He sure, but he denied it. It's out there, though

1009
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 3: he would never tell. So he gets paroled in nineteen

1010
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 3: ninety seven, and like a lot of people feel like

1011
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 3: he had mafia connections and that's like what influenced him

1012
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 3: to get out. In two thousand, his run came to

1013
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 3: a violent end. He got into a shootout with the cops.

1014
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 3: Oh didn't survive it, oh one percent. But he took

1015
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 3: the information. So he took the information about the location

1016
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 3: of the rest of the loot to his grave. Well,

1017
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 3: no one ever found it.

1018
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, he took it there someone else may know, right,

1019
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 2: I guess did you have anybody he trusted?

1020
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 3: I make sure he had to have someone who's going

1021
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 3: in fetchings.

1022
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm guessing. The girl's money, so somebody.

1023
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 3: Okay, Zaren, what's your ridiculous takeaway?

1024
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 2: That easy bank robbing thropple is just wild? I mean, like,

1025
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 2: I don't mean to like pick on the Italians and

1026
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 2: it goes and this one I have to say, like

1027
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 2: I make fun of a lot of groups that usually

1028
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 2: I have their like genetic to like, like, oh I can

1029
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 2: make fun of Germans. I got German family, right, Yeah,

1030
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 2: I don't have any Italian family that I'm aware of.

1031
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 2: So I'm saying this as an outsider. The whole approach

1032
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 2: to crime of like you know, like, oh I knew

1033
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: need a flashy car. I mean, of course, I mean,

1034
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna need to look good. And then he's like,

1035
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 2: I don't like this prison. Can you send me to

1036
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: Italy and it works out better? I mean, no offense

1037
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 2: to Italy, but I can see why you have associations

1038
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 2: with crime historically if this is your approach, I mean,

1039
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 2: how fun and there's no punishments.

1040
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 3: Well, and he was like mister charming. Even the judge

1041
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 3: was charmed. The judge said in trial, you're just such

1042
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 3: a charming guy. And then when his book came out,

1043
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 3: the judge asked him for a sign.

1044
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 2: That's how you know you did it? Judge like, hey,

1045
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: can I get an autograph? Yeah? Exactly in the book I.

1046
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 3: Got one, exactly exactly.

1047
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 2: Mean what yours, Elizabeth? What's your ridiculous? Taken away?

1048
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 3: Just a flashy character. And I kind of was avoiding

1049
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,240
Speaker 3: this because of the violence at the end.

1050
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: But stop on the brakes and.

1051
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 3: I got to the good part. So that's my takeaway.

1052
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 3: You know what, My actual takeaway is what I need

1053
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 3: to talk back.

1054
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 2: I know, just the man. Producer Dave hot Off the press,

1055
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 2: ripped from today's headlines, jump in the queue. Oh my god,

1056
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: I went.

1057
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:31,959
Speaker 3: Hails a best.

1058
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 6: This is Meg from Path shutting her Masters of Education

1059
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 6: and it sucks, but I love you, Philip Morris. That

1060
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 6: is not a movie. It is a film, and I

1061
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 6: really think you should watch it. It's awesome. Oh my love.

1062
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 6: I love to Saron.

1063
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 2: Bye, cheers.

1064
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,240
Speaker 3: I will take that. I will take that advice.

1065
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 2: I like the distinction by the way, because I do

1066
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 2: that too. That some are films, other flicks.

1067
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that's good.

1068
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 2: Or if you really want to get into it, something

1069
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 2: back in the and there's a group of them. The pictures,

1070
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 2: oh yeah, used to make pictures. Yeah, the talkies.

1071
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 3: Meg, thank you for that. And I know you said

1072
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 3: you're working on your degree in education. I hope everything's

1073
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 3: going well with that. That's it for today. You can

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00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,480
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1075
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:26,360
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00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:27,000
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1077
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 2: We're in the picture.

1078
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,239
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00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,960
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Speaker 1: My heart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or

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Speaker 1: wherever you listen to your favorite shows.