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Speaker 2: here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 3: What is up? Tom hard In for Matt Jones? Is

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Speaker 3: the summer winds to a close. I am in Atlanta, Georgia.

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Speaker 3: We've got Ryan and Drew with Mario and Lexington. Shannon

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Speaker 3: is in Louisville. Gang, we got a lot to talk about,

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Speaker 3: But that's that's for later. Drew, Let's start with you. You've

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Speaker 3: got a very punishable stern them. Ryan's got a punchable face,

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Speaker 3: Shannon gets thrown around the ring but has never been

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Speaker 3: for anybody to put fingers on. How's everybody feeling today?

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Speaker 3: And drew any any lasting bruises injuries from your altercation?

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't want to give anyone too much credit,

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Speaker 4: but we're all right, sor right we were Rod and

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Speaker 4: how off that win. It's not about the extracurriculars. It's

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Speaker 4: about the fun we had in their building. Really, my

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Speaker 4: wrists hurt more from putting the l's down than anything else.

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Speaker 4: I think I broke them. My l's were down so

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Speaker 3: I have so many questions about this. The first thing

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Speaker 3: Like you know, Ryan gets knocked unconscious in Columbia after

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Speaker 3: the Kentucky South Carolina football game. You get some low

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Speaker 3: You didn't address this. Do you think the person who

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Speaker 3: accosted you knew who you were? And knew your name

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Speaker 3: Or was this stranger on stranger crime.

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Speaker 4: I really don't know. We'd have to speak to that person.

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Speaker 4: I had never seen that person in my life or

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Speaker 5: So I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't have those answers. Maybe, I mean, maybe he

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Speaker 2: Is he going to be your guest at ten thirty?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be awesome?

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Speaker 7: It crossed my mind that Tom wouldn't tell us who

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Speaker 3: If you want to call in, I want to put

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Speaker 3: you on the air. It's not due to punch Drew.

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Speaker 3: What Drew? You can't say his name?

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Speaker 4: I just well, we'll let everything play out. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you're a celebrity, like you're recognizable phase. You're a commercial entity, right?

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Speaker 3: You do you have sponsorship deals in place with with companies?

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Speaker 3: There's no way this guy did not know who you are.

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Speaker 3: No way, there's no way he didn't know Steel at

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Speaker 3: South Carolina. Maybe that was just you know, somebody hauling

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Speaker 3: But to me, that makes it premeditated. Ryan, what do

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Speaker 5: I think you're on the right track.

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Speaker 7: I think this guy saw Drews kind of sitting in

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think he might have attacked my career.

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Speaker 2: Because if I get punched in the sternum, I'm calling

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Speaker 7: This They hadn't even left the stand, you haven't left

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Speaker 4: I'm an assault victim. There was no engagement where I

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Speaker 4: Did not even see it coming.

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Speaker 4: That's the reason why Kentucky fans are so excited. We'll

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Speaker 4: So far, of what we've heard, it's it's all been positive.

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Speaker 7: Who are some other guys that we may see on

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Speaker 4: Jamury Macklin.

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Speaker 5: Macklin.

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Speaker 4: We mentioned Macklin yesterday. He's a guy to really watch them.

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Speaker 5: Fred Ferrier from Frankfort.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, say that, Say that ten times.

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Speaker 7: Fast, Fred Fredrian.

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Speaker 5: I can't do it.

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Speaker 3: You can't. I'm sorry, I'm missing Drew. Who's Who's the

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Speaker 4: Jamury Macklin. We named him yesterday when a caller asked

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Speaker 4: about uh guys to watch. He's a North Texas transfer

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Speaker 4: There you go. Yeah, it's a Missouri guy, right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, right, and played for the Eagles for a long

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Speaker 7: And if you ever need him, called TJ. Because Shannon,

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Speaker 5: Oh good, you're going out your last song.

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Speaker 7: You're going out swinging today, your last show, one song,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna convince him never to ask me back. That's

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Speaker 3: Kentucky Sports Radio. This is epic LL cool Jay to

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Speaker 3: bring us back. Mama said, knock you out. You can't

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Speaker 3: in our country this summer has just gone off the rails, right,

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Speaker 3: lot of heat for how they handled everything. It wasn't

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Speaker 3: just in the moment, it was how the advanced team

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Speaker 3: handled everything and why the former directors now fired. So

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Speaker 3: we're going to have Tim reblay on. He was on

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Speaker 3: Fox News last week going over all of this stuff

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Speaker 3: and a lot of these failures, and I just want

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Speaker 3: him to explain to us what should have happened in

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Speaker 3: that moment and how they prepare for I don't want

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Speaker 3: to see inevitable, but how they prepare for worst case scenario

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Speaker 3: and where Secret Service dropped the ball. Because what's going

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Speaker 3: on now at Capitol Hill is there's so much political

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Speaker 3: grand standing that I think it's hard for normal people

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Speaker 3: like us to really understand what matters and what doesn't

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Speaker 3: and what the director of the Secret Service can share

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Speaker 3: and what they can't share. Right, Because if you share

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Speaker 3: with these senators all of the details. Then you're just

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Speaker 3: giving our adversaries the entire playbook. So there's only so

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Speaker 3: much you can say in these hearings as well, Drew,

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Speaker 3: is there anything you want to hear from a former

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Speaker 3: Secret Service member about how things were handled that day

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Speaker 3: and how they should have been handled?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'd be interested to here, maybe not have

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Speaker 4: anything specific that I've thought of, because to be honest,

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Speaker 4: I haven't really kept up with it that much. Certainly,

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Speaker 4: this is a lot different. I was thinking you were

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Speaker 4: gonna have Pat Kelsey. This is not the direction I

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Speaker 4: thought we were going. That was my guest. But no,

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Speaker 4: I think it'd be very interesting to hear for something

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Speaker 4: that was, obviously, as Ryan said, one of the biggest

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Speaker 4: stories in our country in several years.

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Speaker 5: You know, the summer shows, you never know which way

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Speaker 5: they're going to go. Tom.

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Speaker 7: You know, last week we had in depth discussions on

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Speaker 7: deviled eggs, and yesterday it was Armadillo's. You're gonna get

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Speaker 7: serious with this after the commercial break and talk something

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Speaker 7: very serious with this, so we a lesson will be

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Speaker 7: learned here today.

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to change speeds a little bit, right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's only so much Lugi's in Nate Sestina's

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Speaker 3: face that will carry us through an entire summer show.

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Speaker 3: And we have access to a knowledgeable person, Shannon, what

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Speaker 3: about I.

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Speaker 4: Would actually like to ask him what he would have

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Speaker 4: done to keep Natesanstina from getting spot on by Louisville

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Speaker 4: after the game. What kind of protection did Nate need?

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Speaker 3: It's a great question. If you had an advanced team

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Speaker 3: in place that knew that there was a spinner, could

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Speaker 3: you have shut it down before?

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Speaker 2: To Curt, yes, yeah, I just want to know, like,

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Speaker 2: when we're bringing in a president to a specific what

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Speaker 2: are like, in detail the things that they have to

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Speaker 2: go through to get that stage and that area ready

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Speaker 2: for a president or someone running for president to come in.

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Speaker 2: Because to me that that stuff is fascinating, the detail

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Speaker 2: that they have they're supposed to go through to get

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Speaker 2: an area ready for a president.

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Speaker 3: So like, how do you secure the area?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so I remember I've had these conversations with

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Speaker 3: Tim over the years that we're going to bring on

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Speaker 3: at the bottom of the hour, and he was on

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Speaker 3: the advanced team numerous times both domestically and internationally. In

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Speaker 3: addition to being on presidential detail. I think you if

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Speaker 3: I know it properly, like you're on the advanced team

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Speaker 3: and then you get promoted to presidential detail, or if

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Speaker 3: you're on your way out, you may do it on

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Speaker 3: the way out. But generally domestically, like Kamala Harris was

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Speaker 3: in Atlanta last night, and obviously she has protection. You

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Speaker 3: come to Atlanta, they already have a lot of stuff

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Speaker 3: in place, like they know who they've been to, major

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Speaker 3: metropolitan areas. How to do it. Farm Field might be

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Speaker 3: a little bit different, but we'll cover all that. I

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Speaker 3: think it'll be interesting. We should learn something. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: try to learn something this summer. Kentucky Sports Radio continues

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Speaker 3: after this TJ.

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Speaker 1: Smith, personal injury attorney, called TJ.

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Speaker 3: He'll make them pay.

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Speaker 2: Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio present it by Stockton Mortgage.

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Speaker 2: Here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 3: All right, Tom Harden for Matt Jones. We've got a

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Speaker 3: special guest with us right now, Tim Rebelay, who was

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Speaker 3: a Secret Service agent for a number of years. Also

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Speaker 3: college fraternity brother mine nice enough to join us. All right, Tim,

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Speaker 3: here's the thing, And you may have heard like this

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Speaker 3: is generally a sports show, so bear with us as

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Speaker 3: we kind of attack the basics of this thing to

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Speaker 3: help folks throughout the commonwealth understand kind of what happened

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Speaker 3: and how everything rolled out in Butler, Pennsylvania. But first

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Speaker 3: of all, thanks for being with us man. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, pooey, great, great to be on and great to

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Speaker 8: hear you in. Talk to you Tom.

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Speaker 3: All right. So I did have a question that came

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Speaker 3: in via Twitter to start things off that is unrelated

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Speaker 3: to this, but uh, you you were on presidential detail

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Speaker 3: for both Bush and Obama, and this person wanted to know,

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Speaker 3: for a secret service member, where your job is to

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Speaker 3: lay your life on the line, how do you keep

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Speaker 3: personal politics out of it or do personal politics ever

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Speaker 3: come into how you do your job every day.

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Speaker 8: No, that's a great question. I get that a lot.

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Speaker 8: But absolutely so. We as agents, uh, we are a

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Speaker 8: political you know. We we take an oath on the

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Speaker 8: Constitution of the United States of America and that that

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Speaker 8: office uh and and that that document is greater than

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Speaker 8: than than any one person. And also we protect the

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Speaker 8: office of the presidency. It doesn't matter. As you stated,

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Speaker 8: I I protected Republicans, Democrats, uh, you know, also world leaders.

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Speaker 6: Uh. You know, throughout the world.

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Speaker 8: So we take the oaths on the Constitution to uh

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Speaker 8: to defend the Constitution and protect those individuals that so

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Speaker 8: happen to hold that office.

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Speaker 3: Okay. Ronald Rowe is the acting director of the Secret Service.

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Speaker 3: He's been on the hill testifying before a Senate Judiciary

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Speaker 3: and Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs committees the last couple

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Speaker 3: of days. He took over after Kimberly Cheedle resigned following

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Speaker 3: her appearance before a House committee. I want you to

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Speaker 3: speak for a moment about the pride you took in

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Speaker 3: your job and the organization, and then your reaction to

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Speaker 3: what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania on July thirteenth, just as

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Speaker 3: someone who's spent and dedicated so many years of your

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Speaker 3: life to the Secret Service.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so great question. So yeah, I quit it. And

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Speaker 6: I understand this is sports talk.

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Speaker 8: So it would be like a team that you you know,

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Speaker 8: you you invest time in training and you get to

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Speaker 8: know your team members or my fellow agents. You know,

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Speaker 8: I traveled the world and spend you know, countless holidays,

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Speaker 8: Christmas Is, birthdays, anniversaries in foreign countries and in you

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Speaker 8: know state, so you know, working midnight shifts and everything.

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Speaker 8: So you really developed that bond which is really similar

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Speaker 8: to a sports team or fraternity or you know, something

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Speaker 8: like of that nature that that people can relate to.

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Speaker 8: And it's a bond that you know, is this thick

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Speaker 8: as blood and knowing that you potentially may have to

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Speaker 8: give your life for the Constitution. As I mentioned previously,

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Speaker 8: that bond is even thicker.

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Speaker 6: Some of my.

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Speaker 8: Closest friends on this planet are former agents, you know,

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Speaker 8: from the Secret Service. As it relates to Butler, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 8: On July thirteenth, I was actually watching that rally live

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Speaker 8: on TV with my son, and as soon as everything

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Speaker 8: went down, I knew exactly what happened, and obviously, like

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Speaker 8: every other American, I wanted to make sure the former

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Speaker 8: president was safe. But then me I wanted to jump

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Speaker 8: through the TV because, you know, twenty two years with

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Speaker 8: the Agency, you trained just like a sports team, and

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Speaker 8: you have muscle memory, and all my training was kicking in,

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Speaker 8: and I wanted to jump through the TV and help

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Speaker 8: because you spend a career, spend a lifetime hoping that

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Speaker 8: moment never happens, but one it does, and when it

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Speaker 8: did on that Saturday afternoon on July thirteenth. I wanted

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Speaker 8: to be there because that's what I trained. That's why

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Speaker 8: I would wake up at Odark thirty and run and

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Speaker 8: work out, lift weights and shoot, training for that exact moment.

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Speaker 6: So you know, it.

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Speaker 5: Was hard.

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Speaker 6: You know, obviously as an American.

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Speaker 8: You know to see an attack like that, but it

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Speaker 8: was you know, also hard as an agent to sit

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Speaker 8: back and be kind of helpless and not be able

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Speaker 8: to help.

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Speaker 6: I wanted to do something to assist my former colleagues.

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Speaker 3: Tim Revlay is our guests. You spent twenty two years

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Speaker 3: in the Secret Service and was on presidential detail with

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Speaker 3: both George W. Bush and Obama in addition to it

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Speaker 3: being a family, and you describe the Secret Services being

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Speaker 3: a team. There's several different levels, right, I mean, you

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Speaker 3: have a first team, and you have reserves, and you

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Speaker 3: have a JV. And I'm simplifying it, but in terms

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Speaker 3: of the ones that jumped on this age immediately after

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Speaker 3: the shots rang out, I kind of view those people

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Speaker 3: from a sports standpoint as like they're the first teamers, right,

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Speaker 3: They're the ones that Madam most is with the President

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Speaker 3: every single day everywhere he goes. And you correct me

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Speaker 3: if I'm wrong in that observation. But what I'm getting

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Speaker 3: at is I wanted we know there are systemic failures

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Speaker 3: throughout in both the planning and execution. But how did

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Speaker 3: you think that those first team are so to speak,

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Speaker 3: or however you guys describe them in the service. How

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Speaker 3: do you gauge their reaction the job that they did

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Speaker 3: in getting to Trump.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so those agents that you saw, we refer to

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Speaker 8: as the shift. So those agents are permanently assigned to

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Speaker 8: the former president's detail. So they are their Their duty,

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Speaker 8: as you saw, was to cover, shield and evacuate the president.

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Speaker 8: The remaining agents that were there were typically from the

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Speaker 8: field or the field office I eat, in this case,

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Speaker 8: the Pittsburgh Field Office. So I've thought about this. It

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Speaker 8: is to equate it to like a sports team. You know,

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Speaker 8: you would have you know, the first first team offense

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Speaker 8: going in uh to protect your guys, and then you

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Speaker 8: may have uh, you know, the second or third team

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Speaker 8: offense or so to speak, uh, you know lining in.

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Speaker 6: Wait.

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Speaker 8: But again, don't don't get me wrong, they're all highly qualified.

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Speaker 8: Less than one percent of people in the world that

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Speaker 8: apply for the US Secret Service, uh, you know, become agents.

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Speaker 8: So they're all highly trained, highly skilled.

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Speaker 6: Men and women.

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Speaker 8: But to answer your question, I'll tell you tom the

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Speaker 8: UH the their reaction, though I know there's a lot

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Speaker 8: of criticism online, their reaction to to the situation.

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Speaker 6: Is textbooked.

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Speaker 8: It'll be looked at for the next one hundred plus

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Speaker 8: years in secret service academy on what to do, cover,

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Speaker 8: shield and evacuate uh to you know, and a lot

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Speaker 8: of people that are criticizing they've never had rounds in

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Speaker 8: coming wazing past their head. Everybody talks a big game,

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Speaker 8: but you know, to quote Mike Tyson, everybody has a

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Speaker 8: plan un till you're punch in the mouth. And they

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Speaker 8: they were punched in the mouth and they acted appropriately.

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Speaker 6: So I applaud them on the reaction.

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Speaker 8: And like I said, that will be uh looked at

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Speaker 8: for the next hundred plus years on what what to

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Speaker 8: do correctly.

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Speaker 3: From your perspective, where did the biggest failure occur in Butler, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 8: The biggest speluy to occur in Butler, Pennsylvania was we

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Speaker 8: rely a lot on our local counterpart system.

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Speaker 6: And you know, I love local law enforcement. I started

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Speaker 6: my career.

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Speaker 8: As a police officer in the city of Saint Louis

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Speaker 8: years ago.

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Speaker 6: We can't do our job without them.

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Speaker 8: But that was the main you know, uh uh, you

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Speaker 8: know fault in this situation.

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Speaker 6: We we I keep saying we.

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Speaker 8: But the US Secret Service had a plan in place,

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Speaker 8: which we like a blueprint or a game plan if

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Speaker 8: you're a football team, and you know the the deepense

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Speaker 8: if you will, didn't follow the game planned and there

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Speaker 8: we was hold. Uh they were posted. Uh, they were

671
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Speaker 8: supposed to be posted in a certain position, and they

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Speaker 8: they weren't properly posted because it was too hot. And

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Speaker 8: then on top of that, even if they stayed on

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Speaker 8: their interior posts, which we've all learned, if they stayed there, they.

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Speaker 6: Would have observed the shooter.

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Speaker 8: So it was many small failures that led to one

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Speaker 8: major catastrophic failure. But to use the analogy of sports again,

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Speaker 8: the Secret Service would be like the head coach. You

679
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Speaker 8: have the offensive, defensive coordinators and such.

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Speaker 6: They do their do their jobs.

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Speaker 8: Out in the field, but then you have the actual

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Speaker 8: the players that put the plan together.

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Speaker 6: And the players failed.

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Speaker 8: But ultimately that comes back to the head coach, which

685
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Speaker 8: is the US Secret Service. So don't get don't don't

686
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Speaker 8: take it that I'm blaming this on local law enforcement.

687
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Speaker 8: It ultimately comes back on the U S Secret Service.

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Speaker 8: We we failed or they failed, but it was a

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Speaker 8: complete breakdown of assignments and missing assignments, then abandoning assignments

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Speaker 8: overall some rebel.

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Speaker 3: As our guest twenty two years the United States Secret

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Speaker 3: Service and a career in law enforcement. The phrase that

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Speaker 3: you just used just kind of boggles my mind and

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Speaker 3: my assumption as you're talking about the local counter snipers,

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Speaker 3: they're the ones who thought that it was too hot

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Speaker 3: and weren't in position to cover the roof. Is that right?

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Speaker 8: Well, so, to me, a lot of this and again

698
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Speaker 8: there's a lot out in the media that isn't clarified.

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Speaker 6: So we had US Secret Service.

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Speaker 8: Counter snipers team at the three o'clock position, then he

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Speaker 8: had another local team close to the three o'clock position

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Speaker 8: in relation to the stage. And even though those guys

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Speaker 8: were Giver County ESU counter snipers, it doesn't matter. Nobody's

704
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Speaker 8: talked about the fact we don't put snipers in those

705
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Speaker 8: positions with weapons. Typically nobody's talked about it. But they

706
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Speaker 8: would be have their weapons decked, they would probably have

707
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Speaker 8: their side arm, but not long guns. They were there

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Speaker 8: specifically to post a vulnerability to not allow access to

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Speaker 8: the roofs or obviously take the high ground to see

710
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Speaker 8: anybody that would take access to opposing roofs. So they

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Speaker 8: weren't there in a sniper position, which nobody's really talked about.

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Speaker 8: They were there as what we used the term post standard.

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Speaker 8: They were there to post a vulnerability that was identified

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Speaker 8: within the security plan, and they took it upon themselves

715
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Speaker 8: because it was too hot whatever it is, which is

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Speaker 8: completely unacceptable to move inside of the AC. Well, you know,

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Speaker 8: the other one hundred plus agents and officers were out

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Speaker 8: there in the heat. That's part of the job, you know, heat, rain, wind,

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Speaker 8: whatever it is, you deal with it. But again I

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Speaker 8: might sound like I'm throwing them under the bus, but

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Speaker 8: a lot of people.

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Speaker 6: Haven't talked about this type of thing, and it's about.

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Speaker 8: Time that, you know, we point out the facts of

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Speaker 8: what's going on.

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Speaker 6: That's all I've talked about from the last you know,

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Speaker 6: eighteen days.

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Speaker 3: Yeah no, And I think with the political grandstanding that

728
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Speaker 3: happens in every one of these hearings, we lose attention

729
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Speaker 3: to detail and we lose a lot of the facts

730
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Speaker 3: because it turns into yelling about this, yelling about that.

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Speaker 3: Tim Rebelly served United States Secret Surface for over two decades.

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Speaker 3: He's our guest. One of the questions we had from

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Speaker 3: from Shannon was he's really interested in the role of

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Speaker 3: the Advanced Team and specifically, how do you secure an

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Speaker 3: area like that. I think it's it's fairly understandable when

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Speaker 3: presidents go into arenas on a regular basis and stadiums

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Speaker 3: on a regular basis, and all the places that they go,

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Speaker 3: say within DC or major metropolitan areas that have been

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Speaker 3: secured numerous times, and then your go to a field

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Speaker 3: right in Pennsylvania, what is the role of the Advanced

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Speaker 3: Team and being able to secure that area as much

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Speaker 3: as you can share for listeners.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so one thing I talked about about a week ago,

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Speaker 8: you know, not not giving up too much thing things

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Speaker 8: operational security wise, because you know there's still agents out

746
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Speaker 8: there doing, uh, performing.

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Speaker 6: The mission, protecting people. But the answer the question, it's actually,

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Speaker 6: you know, we've been all over the world.

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Speaker 8: I've done thousands of advances on six continents, you know,

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Speaker 8: seventy plus countries, war zones, the whole nine yards.

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Speaker 6: And it's not rocket science. You start out, you find

752
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Speaker 6: out what the logistics are or or the plan of your.

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Speaker 8: Protectee is from where where's that individual going to arrive,

754
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Speaker 8: where they're going to walk on stage, and then then

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Speaker 8: you develop your plan, uh with layers of security.

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Speaker 6: You have an inner, middle, and outer perimeter.

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Speaker 8: Ultimately that you develop based on where they're going to be.

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Speaker 8: And for example, this he's Butler, Pennsylvania. You know, they

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Speaker 8: looked at or he's going to arrive here, He's going

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Speaker 8: to go to the daisk, give remarks for an hour

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Speaker 8: bus whatever it is. So they they radiate out from

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Speaker 8: there with the inner, the middle, and the outer perimeters.

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Speaker 8: And as we know, in which is standard methodology for

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Speaker 8: the US Secret Service, the inner and middle perimeters are

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Speaker 8: typically all US Secret Service personnel sprinkled in with you know,

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Speaker 8: some local police. And we know for a fact that

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Speaker 8: the inner and middle perimeter was you know work was

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Speaker 8: worked by Secret.

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Speaker 6: Service and PSB Pennsylvania State Police.

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Speaker 8: Therefore, that left the outer perimeter, you know, to more

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Speaker 8: local law enforcement Butler Beaver County, some of the surrounding jurisdictions.

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Speaker 6: But but again to answer.

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Speaker 8: Your question, is you go in, you walk the path

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Speaker 8: of the protectee. You look at any vulnerability three hundred

775
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Speaker 8: and sixty degrees up down above below, and even now

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Speaker 8: you know the tail end of my my, my career,

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Speaker 8: we would look at anything cyber wise that would affect uh,

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Speaker 8: potentially the protectee.

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Speaker 6: So no stone is unturned.

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Speaker 8: And I know the folks who created that plan, and

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Speaker 8: I don't. I haven't seen the plan, so I can't

782
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 8: talk to it per se. But I know the quality

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Speaker 8: of work of the agents that you put that plan together,

784
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Speaker 8: and I know from twenty plus years of history it

785
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 8: was a solid It had to be a solid plan.

786
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Speaker 6: It just wasn't implemented.

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00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 8: And again, to use that analogy of sports, you could

788
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 8: have the best game plan on Sunday afternoon in the NFL,

789
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 8: but you got to improvise, overcome, and adapt based on

790
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 8: you know, the opposing team.

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Speaker 3: All right, Tim, we only have we only have one

792
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Speaker 3: minute to go. And I'm curious about this. At any

793
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Speaker 3: point in these scenarios, does protection ever get overruled by

794
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,959
Speaker 3: the campaign or somebody close to the asset who says, no, no,

795
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 3: we want to do this instead, And how does the

796
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Speaker 3: Secret Service handle that to try and protect them, even

797
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Speaker 3: if you know, even if the candidate wants to do

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Speaker 3: something different.

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Speaker 6: No, so Tom, I could. I can attest to my

800
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Speaker 6: career and.

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Speaker 8: A lot of times that's why they pay us what

802
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 8: they pay us, which quite frankly isn't enough.

803
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Speaker 6: But that's another story.

804
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Speaker 8: We have those hard conversations with our protectees and they

805
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 8: respect us. We say no, sir, this is not a

806
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 8: safe area and we can't do this for whatever reason,

807
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 8: as long as you have a reason.

808
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:22,959
Speaker 6: Why it's not a safe thing.

809
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Speaker 8: A lot of times, quite honestly, they respect you so

810
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 8: much if you say no, they're not going to do

811
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Speaker 8: it based on your experience.

812
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 6: So it's been done. It's been done one hundred times.

813
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 8: And again, if the shift knew there was an actual threat,

814
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Speaker 8: I know for a fact they would not have put

815
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Speaker 8: him on stage, but that was never ever communicated to.

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Speaker 6: The shift or the US Secret Service.

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00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 8: Put it this way, the individual was identified as a

818
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 8: threat and he was neutralized within fifteen seconds.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Sam, this is awesome information, man, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: I know you've got a lot going on. Thanks for

821
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Speaker 3: giving us your time and explaining it to the viewers.

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Speaker 3: And I know the seventy nine Annaville that you drove

823
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 3: to practice when you're wrestling coolest car. Coolest car. Yeah,

824
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Speaker 3: thanks man.

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Speaker 6: Enjoy the rest of the day absolutely anytime.

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Speaker 3: It's Tim Rebela from the United States Secret Service, retired

827
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Speaker 3: after twenty two years of service. I hope that was interesting.

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Speaker 3: We'll try to rehash some of it when we come

829
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Speaker 3: back with with the boys back in Lexington. You're listening

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Speaker 3: to Kentucky Sports Radio.

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Speaker 6: Night.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Kentucky Sports Radio. That was our guest,

833
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Speaker 3: Tim Reblay, who was with the United States Secret Service

834
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Speaker 3: for twenty two years, breaking down what's going on on

835
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Speaker 3: the Hill today and yesterday. So for those of you

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Speaker 3: who loved it great and liked that information. For others,

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Speaker 3: Drew's got to get back Sitting at his feet at KSR.

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Speaker 4: I was really listening to that, and uh, you know,

839
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Speaker 4: I like hearing from someone whose job is much more

840
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 4: important than mine. You know, we kind of have fake

841
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 4: jobs here on KS I'm wearing what I'm probably gonna

842
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 4: probably what I slept in. Uh So that was really fascinating.

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00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 4: But then a package showed up out of nowhere that

844
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Speaker 4: kind of took took us by a prize here at

845
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Speaker 4: KOs Bar. We've been shipped from Tyson Foods in Arkansas

846
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 4: Razorback nuggets and Arkansas branded swag that that arrived during

847
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Speaker 4: that interview.

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Speaker 3: They signed a five star point guard last week. Account.

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Speaker 7: You know, I gotta give Tyson Foods a little credit

850
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 7: that when they hired Cal they sent us some Tyson

851
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 7: Chicken nuggets like that day, and then now they've got

852
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 7: these Razorback nuggets out. I mean, it's that's kind of

853
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 7: a boss moves in it to us. We have to

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Speaker 7: we have to answer it. So we're gonna do it.

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00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: We're gonna eat the nuggets. So we're gonna throw them

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Speaker 2: in the trash.

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00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,959
Speaker 5: Oh I'm eating. Oh, I'm They're good.

858
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 4: I'm saving mine for the night we play and after

859
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 4: the game, after Mark Pope's team cooks them. I'm gonna

860
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 4: cook these nuggets and have a nice little celebration.

861
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Speaker 8: Bill.

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Speaker 3: So, Shannon, what what has you most interested like how

863
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Speaker 3: you protect an asset as a Secret Service member and

864
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 3: the failure of the Secret Service in Butler, Pennsylvania or

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Speaker 3: chicken nuggets.

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Speaker 2: I was pretty fascinated with the interview, to be honest

867
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Speaker 2: with you, But I'm also intrigued by is it a

868
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: troll job that they're trying to do?

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00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 5: Are they just trying to extend.

870
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: Like the Olive Branch aka the Razorback Nuggets to Big

871
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: Blue Nation by sending these what what what's the goal here?

872
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 5: It's a troll move. Definitely a troll move.

873
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, sending it to us. It arrives during the show.

874
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 7: You know they they don't have any.

875
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: Control over the post office delivery.

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00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 5: Hold on a.

877
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 3: Second, Hold on a second. Can I just go on

878
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 3: a rant here? This is what's wrong with America? Okay,

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Speaker 3: this is where we have gone off the rails. We

880
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 3: had a former president nearly assassinated, and we have details

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00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 3: on what went wrong and how it's supposed to go.

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00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 3: And you guys were dialed in on it. And then

883
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 3: Ups showed up yep with Dino nuggets and you're like, oh, look, squirrel, butterfly,

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00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 3: it's gone gone out the door. This is unbelievable, but

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00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 3: totally believable.

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00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 4: Feels like a declaration of wars.

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Speaker 7: Corey Price has tweeted your picture and your friend's picture

888
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 7: from your fraternity days at Missouri.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Yeah, by the way, if anybody wants secrets,

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Speaker 3: don't just cut Corey Price's wife.

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Speaker 5: That's it.

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00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 7: He's a secret service guy and Corey found pictures of

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00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 7: him like in a couple seconds.

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Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. We've got more to come. We probably won't

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00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 3: talk national security, I suppose, but we'll talk nuggets and

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00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 3: we want to get Mario's take on how he loves

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Speaker 3: his TVT team. Not familiar after this