1 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Hi. 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson. 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: We wanted to do something that highlighted our. 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 3: Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 3: a sibling. 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: Raivalry, No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth. 7 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 3: Ravely. 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: That's good. I'm so excited about this because I love 9 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 2: this man, like I'm kind of obsessed with. 10 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 4: I know, I've never met this man. 11 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 2: I have and I'm going to save it for the podcast. 12 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 2: Tony Robbins is one of my favorite motivational speakers sort 13 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:54,639 Speaker 2: of you know. 14 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: This. 15 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: I feel like he just exudes everything positive and motivating 16 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: and like just an absolute force of nature. I've never 17 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 2: been to one of his seminars, but a lot of 18 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: my friends have been and they say it's life changing. 19 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 4: We need to go. I need to go. 20 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 3: Maybe I can just use this as a private seminar. Yeah, 21 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 3: but you know I love about Tony Robbins too, and 22 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 3: I have not met him. He can take the piss 23 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: out of himself as well. Yeah you know what I mean. 24 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's definitely. 25 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got he's got a sense of humor about 26 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 3: all of his stuff. 27 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: Right, you know, I love I am. His newest book 28 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: is The Holy Grill of Investing. I want to delve 29 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 2: into this. I kind of got yeah Amazon, it was 30 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: for a bit, but I I I want to get 31 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: into that a little bit with him. I read a 32 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: little bit about it. I have not read the book yet. 33 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: Have you read the book? 34 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 4: No, I don't read about investing. I just I just 35 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 4: don't want to. 36 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 3: I just throw my money where people tay me to 37 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 3: open out any ricks. 38 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 4: Let's go back Tony. 39 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna. 40 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 5: Up in jail, and we let him in. 41 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 2: He's waiting. He's like the one person that never wait. 42 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: Let's go all right, Let's bring Tony in. Him handsome. 43 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: Nice to meet you. 44 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 5: Nice, nice to meet you. 45 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: What's going on? 46 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: Actually, I was just saying this in our introduction, Tony, 47 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: I have met you before, and I will never forget it. 48 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: Because I was a little girl and it was the Kings, 49 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Kings were in the playoffs. I might 50 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: have been there, and we were back in the in 51 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: the hallway. I was with my mom and my dad. 52 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 2: We were waiting to go into the locker room, and 53 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: you were, you were it was our family, and you 54 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: were standing there and I got to meet you, and 55 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: I will never forget it because you're so tall, and 56 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 2: I couldn't believe how big you were, and I could 57 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: and obviously, as everyone knows, you just exude such positive energy. 58 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: So you left a mark on me as a young child. 59 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know your father, but I love your 60 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: mom and I've met a few times. And that's some 61 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: nice conversations that she's doing well, she. 62 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: Is, she's doing great. 63 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 5: Well, let's start. 64 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 4: Let's start simple. 65 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 5: What is your net worth? 66 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast, Tony. Well, look, I feel like 67 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 2: everybody in the world knows who you are, and for 68 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: those who don't, you. 69 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 5: Are a reason. 70 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: There's no reason to even give your biocast off. 71 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 3: But I'd honestly like to know about your upbringing, your childhood, 72 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: where you were born, how you grew up, how you 73 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: what were the seeds you know to actually becoming who 74 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: you are. 75 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: I was born in downtown Los Angeles, believe it or not, 76 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: and I grew up in a San gabe A valley 77 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: east of LA and kind of we had smog alerts 78 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: each day so we can go outside during those days. 79 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm a clean air you now have there, Although I 80 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: don't live in La anymore. But I grew up in 81 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: a kind of a tough environment. I had four different fathers. 82 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: My mom was a very intense lady, shaped me immensely 83 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: and the lover her on a door her she's passed away. 84 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: But she also abused, unfortunately prescription drugs and alcohol, and 85 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: when she did, she got a little violent. So I 86 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: really became a practical psychologist to protect my younger brother 87 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: and younger sister. I don't learn how to change her states. 88 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: I to anticipate what was going on. That's where it 89 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: began for me. And then I was also just the 90 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: difference in our lives made me want to know the 91 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: difference in people, like why do people's lives turn out 92 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: a certain way? And I didn't have any mentors. So 93 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: I took a speed reading class and I promised myself 94 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: I'd read a book a day, but you know, I 95 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: didn't do that. But I read seven hundred books in 96 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: seven years in the ear of human development, psychology, physiology, philosophy, 97 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: anything I thought could make a difference. And then when 98 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: I was eleven years old, we had no money and 99 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: no food at Thanksgiving and it's probably the most profound 100 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: experience of my life because you know, all my fathers 101 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: had talked about you know, no one cares about anybody else, 102 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: and you know, we're in it by ourselves and we're 103 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: on the other side of the tracks and all those 104 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: stories which kind of felt true in the environment I 105 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: grew up in. But someone delivered food to our house 106 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving. I don't just mean food. And it was 107 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: a knock on the door and this I answered the door, 108 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: as this guy with two giant bags of groceries and 109 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: a empty frozen turkey on the ground and a pot, 110 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: and said, is your father here? And I mean we 111 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't have starred, we'd had crackers and peanut butter. But 112 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving, you know, it's magnified when you don't have 113 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,799 Speaker 1: a big meal when everybody else does. And it changed 114 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: my life because it wasn't the food that changed my life. 115 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: It's like I hold from that that strangers care, and 116 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: if strangers care about me, I want to care about strangers. 117 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: And it, you know, left in doubible mark. When I 118 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: was seventeen, I've had two families, and then four and 119 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: then eight, and as years got by, I got to 120 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: a million people. And then about eight years ago I 121 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: was writing this book called money Master, the Game where 122 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: I interviewed fifty of the most successful investors in history. 123 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: You know Ray Dalue's car icons, warm buffets, and and 124 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: you know they're all multi billionaires. And I saw that 125 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: Congress cut food stamps they now call it the Snap 126 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: program by six billion dollars, so every family that actually 127 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: needs food would have to give up a week's with 128 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: the food every month unless people I got step in. 129 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: And so I called my team and said, how many 130 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: people have I fad in my lifetime? I'd never kept tracking. 131 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: It was forty two million people, So I was really 132 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: proud of it. What if I did fifty million a 133 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: yeard as much as I did in my whole life 134 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: in a year, And then I like, what if I 135 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: did one hundred million a year? What if I do 136 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 1: one hundred million year for ten years and fed a 137 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: billion meals? I'm proud to tell you I did in 138 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: eight years. We finished it last year, and now I'm 139 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: doing a hundred billion meal challenge. But all those things 140 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: helped to shape who I was. And then I went 141 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: to a seminar. I'm never heard of a seminar. I 142 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: was working for this man on the weekends. I was 143 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: still in junior high school and I was moving things 144 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: for him and I was a tough worker and my parents, 145 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: my father had said, you know, that guy used to 146 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: be such a loser and now he's so successful. How come? 147 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: And so he took me to lunch and he said, 148 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: you know, you're such a hard worker. You know, I 149 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: want to talk to you a little bit. And I 150 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: said you might have asked some question then. I you know, 151 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: I wasn't being harsh. I didn't realize what I was saying. 152 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: I said. My dad said it used to be such 153 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: a loser. I said, what you know? But he goes, 154 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: I guess it's true. And he said I went to 155 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: this seminar And I said what's a seminar? And he said, 156 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: this man takes decades of his life and hours him 157 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,559 Speaker 1: a four or five hours and teaches you the best 158 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: of what he's learned and saved to you a few decades. 159 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: And I was like, I like to do that. Could 160 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: you get me in? He said sure, and then he 161 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: didn't say any more. So I said will you? And 162 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: he said no? And I said, well why not? And 163 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: he said, because if you don't investin it, you won't 164 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: value it. So I said, how much is it? And 165 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: this is nineteen seventy seven, right, So he said it's 166 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,679 Speaker 1: thirty five dollars. I'd be like two hundred and fifty 167 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: bucks to day in US and with inflation, and I 168 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: was making forty dollars a week as a janitor, right, 169 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: says like to me, it was the biggest decision in 170 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: my life. But I made this decision. I went to 171 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: the seminar, I listened to this man's speak, and I 172 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: was on fire. And I eventually went to work for 173 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: him and learned to speak and do things and expand 174 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: and I learned skills on how to turn people around 175 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: very quickly using some various tools and neuralinguistic program and 176 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: Ericsonian work. And then I started working with sports teams 177 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: and the mother Teresa and Nelson Mandel, the presidents, and 178 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: it just grew and grew and grew. 179 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: And nat Tony Tony was that Jim Ron? Jim Jim Ron? 180 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: And what was it about him that really like stuck 181 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: with you like that for the first light bulb? 182 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: Right? 183 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 5: Did you model your style after him? 184 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: Well? No, our styles are radically different, but I had 185 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: an enormous respect. Come I can do his style, but 186 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: it's not me as much. Lower tempo. And he's a philosopher. 187 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 1: I love philosophy and strategy, but what got me with 188 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: him was some simple philosophies, like, you know, for things 189 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: to change, you got to change the things get better, 190 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: You got to get better, you know. And that probably 191 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: the greatest gift he gave me was one time I 192 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: went to him and I said, you know, I have 193 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: four fathers, they're all good people. How come you know 194 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: we don't have any money? How come we didn't have 195 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: any food, you know? And and I was I was 196 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: lamenting about how you know, these teachers only make I 197 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: think it was thirty five thousand dollars back then, and 198 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: this hedge fund guy made a billion dollars, and how 199 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: unfair it is. And he said, Tony, well, let me 200 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: let me give you a little lesson. He said, we're 201 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: all equal as souls, but we're not equal in the marketplace. 202 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: I said, what does that mean? He said, well, you 203 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: have to become more valuable in order to be able 204 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: to earn more. And he said, so let's start with McDonald's. 205 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: He says, nothing wrong with McDonald's, but those basic jobs 206 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: at McDonald's where people get minimum pay. There's a reason. 207 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: It's because anyone can do that job. Anyone can learn 208 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 1: it in a few hours, so you don't get much 209 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: for it. But he said, your school teachers, you know, 210 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: if they were willing to be paid for performance, they 211 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: could earn a lot more. But he said, at all 212 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: your school teachers, I'm sure you've said some great ones, 213 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: how many were great? And I named two or three 214 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: and he goes, out of all your teachers, he said, 215 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: and they only worked with thirty five people, right, He said, 216 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: you know this hedge fun guy. People in those days 217 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: were getting like six percent, not you know, the recent 218 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: years used to be three and two and three. And 219 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: he said, you know, he got forty eight percent returns 220 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 1: in the last three years. And those are people's pensions, 221 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: that's the that's their kids going to college, that's all 222 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: though those things. So he's worth it, he said. So 223 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: here's what you need to do. Instead of comparing yourself 224 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: to other people, he said, find a way every day 225 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: to become more You need to become more valuable in 226 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: the marketplace. Figure out what skills, what abilities you're passionate about. 227 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: And he said, your entire focus has got to be 228 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: on adding more value, do more for other people than 229 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: anybody else in your category, over and over again, and 230 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: you'll build a brand, and you'll never have to worry 231 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: about anything in your life, and you'll enjoy your life. 232 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: And so that's been a guiding principle. And I have 233 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: a one hundred and fourteen companies now, and we do 234 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 1: over seven billion dollars in business, and all these different 235 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: industries I'm a part of and I have no business background, 236 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: but the one thing that is the base of all 237 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: those is I'm obsessed with doing more for others than 238 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: anybody else in the category. And when you do that 239 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: over and over again, those companies, you know, grow. So 240 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: that philosophy shape my life. 241 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 5: What about going back to the forefathers? How did that work? 242 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 4: Whether were the forefathers? There's there's a word play in 243 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 4: there for something. 244 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: I don't know if your next book want to be 245 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 3: called my Forefathers and sort of play on that. 246 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 5: All he wants to kind out you can have it. 247 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 3: You can have it, Just just. 248 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 5: That that's not a good to invest. 249 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 3: But as far as that went for you, so it's 250 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 3: an interest. I'm just a dynamic of that. Saying that 251 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 3: they were all great men. Did they all have an 252 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 3: influence on you, one boy or another? Were they all 253 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 3: in your life? 254 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 4: Like, how did that cause you speak? You speak as them? 255 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 4: If it's like an entity. 256 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, no, it's just because you know they weren't 257 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: They weren't all at once. They well they were at once, 258 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: but individually there were our husbands, you know. So my 259 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: natural father was a parking attendant in downtown Los Angeles, 260 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: and he was He was not a bad man. He 261 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: was an alcoholic, but not a mean alcoholic. He didn't 262 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: beat me up or anything like that. He just went 263 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: in his own world. And you know, if you can 264 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: imagine just being underground taking people's tickets all day long 265 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: that now you know a machine does That was him 266 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: for forty years, and so I think a lot of 267 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: what I did not want to become was based on 268 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: my mom's view of him and then leaving him. So 269 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not going to be that way. 270 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: But he was a good man. My second father, Art 271 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 1: was his uncle or his cousins. My mom kept it 272 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: in the family, and he was more of an artistic 273 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: type and a mechanic and very different, but didn't have 274 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: much impact on me. Other than physical discipline, you know, 275 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: speaking that kind of stuff. And then the one that 276 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: influenced me the most there was Bob, who was very brief. 277 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: My mom was married to him before I was born, 278 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: and then he would enter it out of our life. 279 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 1: He was somebody that I found aspirational. He owned his 280 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: own gym, he learned to file a small airplane. He 281 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: was a really nice guy. But the one affected meals 282 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: was Jim Robbinson. He adopted me and he was my 283 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: fourth father, and he was a former semi pro baseball player. 284 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: He looked kind of like Tom Jones when Tom Jones 285 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: was very popular. We had a no house, crappy house, 286 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: no money for food, but he had a brand new 287 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: Cadillac convertible, so you get the idea. I earned his 288 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: love to sports, and I always wanted to play sports 289 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: my mom. We didn't have any money, and my mom 290 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: didn't want me to get hurt because I was so small, 291 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: believe or not. I was five to one in high 292 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: school on six to seven now. So I tell people 293 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: difference is personal growth. Of course, right, did you have 294 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: sub siblings? So yeah, I have a younger brother five 295 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: years younger younger sister seven years younger, so we you know, 296 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: I kind of was the father of the family so 297 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: to speak, because husbands left, you know, I took the 298 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: responsibility each time, so it helped me grow and I'm. 299 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 4: Grateful for Yeah. 300 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 3: No, I know, I mean that sort of doesn't sound 301 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure there was hardship, obviously, but it's 302 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 3: it's sort of the basis of sort of of. I 303 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 3: guess what you're teaching is how to sort of get 304 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 3: through these hardships, how to how to not let them 305 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 3: stop you, you know, because I'm sure you're well read. 306 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 3: I don't know if you're an actual psychologist, but how 307 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 3: much does psychology come into play when you are giving 308 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 3: these motivational speeches or these seminars, because some people are 309 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 3: just stuck no matter what the hell they hear tools. 310 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I think the thing that separates Tony from 311 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: a lot of motivational speakers is that is the access 312 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: to actual strategy and tools. 313 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: I've never seen myself as a motivator. When people see 314 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 1: an audience of you know, fifteen thousand pets from the 315 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: stadium and they're jumping and so forth, that's what they 316 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: get in their head. But it's just creating energy because 317 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: you know what to be like you. Most people won't 318 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: sit for a three hour movie someone spent three hundred 319 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: million dollars for. And I take people twelve hours a day, 320 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: five days or seven days. Some got dragged there initially, 321 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: and in order to get them that, you have to 322 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: make time disappear. You have to make it so enjoyable 323 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: while they're transforming and so impactful that you know, you know, 324 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: hours go by and it feels like minutes. You know, 325 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: when you hate what you're experiencing, a minute feels like eternity. 326 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: Time is emotion, right, so you know mine is more. 327 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: It's more strategy. And the strategies give people very specifical results. 328 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: And so that's how I built my career. I built 329 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: my career by challenging psychiatrists and psychologists say give me 330 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: your worst patient, and I'll have it right here, right now. 331 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: I'll wipe this problem out in fifteen minutes to thirty minutes. 332 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: And I started in Canada and Vancouver, and I got 333 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: on this radio show and I launched like this, and 334 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: this one psychiatrist made my entire career because he got 335 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: on a at me and I never met me. And 336 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: you're a liar. You're a Charlattan. People like you shouldn't 337 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: be allowed on the radio. And my response was, well, sir, 338 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: have you ever met me? No? Have you ever met 339 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: my clients? 340 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 4: No? 341 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: Well, I said, are you a scientist? Just of course 342 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm a physician. I said, well, I know a scientist 343 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: would never ask soume such a thing, so you must 344 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: be standing a hypothesis. So let's test a free event 345 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: at the holiday end tomorrow night, seven o'clock. Anyone listening 346 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: can come. And I said, I suggest you bring me 347 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: one of your patients, bring me somebody you've never been 348 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: able to cure. I'm sure you have plenty of those, 349 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: because you want to be tough. I could be tough 350 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: right back, and I was playful. And guy said, we 351 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: all have people aren't ready to change yet. And I said, 352 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: that's funny. I haven't found any. Of course, I have 353 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: done four therapies at that point in my whole life. 354 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: But it created this drama. And in those days it 355 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: was the beginning of my career. I'd get like fifty 356 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: people to show up for a free guest event. Well 357 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: five hundred people showed up. See the shootout of Okay 358 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: Corral between me and this psychiatrist. And then do you 359 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: guys do this before you meet somebody, if you meet 360 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: him on the phoney, I met him in person. I 361 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: don't know. I always make a picture of what they 362 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: look like. 363 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, okay, Oh be there. 364 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: I'm picturing this huge guy with a scared woman on 365 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: his arm, and I'm looking around the room. And in 366 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: those days, I have a big staff or anything. I'm 367 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: introducing myself, so nobody matched the picture. The room is 368 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: so packed that the fire department comes in, they'll shut 369 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: me down. People are standing along the walls, and so 370 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: I said, I'm Tony Robbins. I'm here to show you 371 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: ways to change in minutes that you might think take 372 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: months or years. Without hyperbole, I'm going to do some demonstrations. 373 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: And then the side door burst open like a movie, 374 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: and this five foot one guy comes fuck after and 375 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: he stands right in front of me while I'm speaking 376 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: the audience, and I turned the audience and I said, 377 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: it look like I have a visitor. And I go 378 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: to shake his hand and he wouldn't shake my hand. 379 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: He was here's the woman. So I took this woman. 380 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: She had has snake phobia, which you've ever seen a phobia. 381 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: It's an uncontrollable response to a stimulus. Well, she would 382 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: go to sleep at night and she'd have dream that 383 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: a snake would bite her on the face, and the 384 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: adrenaline would push through her body and she'd wake up 385 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: four or five times a night. He'd been treating her 386 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: seven years. So I said, oh, that's taking me ten 387 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: or fifteen minutes, right, So it took me about twenty. 388 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: At first, I showed how dramatic it was. I said, 389 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: even about snakes, and she started freaking out and spitting 390 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: and shaking. I calmed her down, and then at the 391 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: end of it, I reached back and yelled snake. She 392 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: had no reaction. I said, Wow, what a difference. And 393 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: then I went behind her and I had this table 394 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: back here and I pulled this bag and the bag's 395 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: moving and the audience is seeing it. Just a little 396 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: gardener snake. I pick up a snake and put it 397 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: in front of her, and she did pull back, but 398 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: she didn't scream or shake or spit. And I was like, ma'am, 399 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: how do you feel about snakes? And she goes, they're 400 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: not very attractive or you couldn't even think of a 401 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: snake without going crazy. Now it's right here in front 402 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: of you. I said, how'd you like to hold it? 403 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: She goes, it's not very attractive, and the audience starts 404 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: going hold it. So she grabs the snake starts to squeeze. 405 00:17:47,920 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: I said, don't kill it, And that really began my career, Tony. 406 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 2: What do you think in all of your experience you 407 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: work with so many people, like what is the attachment 408 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 2: to these types of fears or phobias? 409 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 3: Like is is it is? Meaning? 410 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 2: Like I should say, what is the breakthrough to get 411 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 2: through those things that you find? Because we can sit 412 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 2: and unpack everything. 413 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 6: You're talking about specifically like lying in this, like this 414 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 6: flying U fear self worth, like all those things that 415 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 6: are holding you back like you know, you know, like 416 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 6: he said, give me twenty minutes, give me an hour, 417 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 6: you know, and and we can see the shifts, like 418 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 6: what do you think it is in our brain that 419 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 6: that makes us hold on to these thoughts that we've 420 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 6: created for us? 421 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 3: That's right, And there's no way in twenty minutes you 422 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 3: could make me feel good about myself. It's my lack 423 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 3: of self love and self worth is fucking strong. I 424 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 3: went to the Hoffman Institute and they cracked me for 425 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 3: a minute. 426 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, But sounds like it sounds 427 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: like it's your trophy hanging. 428 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 3: On to That's that's right exactly, that's a narrative that 429 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 3: I've created. 430 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: Well, the answer your question in my experience is, you know, 431 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: we all our brains after they're two million years old, 432 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: and they've evolved slowly, and there's a survival part of 433 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: our brain, which is what most people run their life on. 434 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: And the survival part is always looking for what can 435 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: harm you. And it was designed to look for a 436 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: saber tooth tiger so you could fight, or you could flight, 437 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: you could run or freeze and hopefully not be seen. 438 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: But today people have that same reaction to what somebody 439 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: wrote about them in social media, whether they have enough 440 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: money or not. And you know, even those that are 441 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: poor in this country, and I help those people obviously 442 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: have about one hundred million meals each year, do a 443 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: lot of other things. But honestly, you know, in this country, 444 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: poor is very different than poor in India or somewhere else. 445 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: I mean you really, it's it's not the same. So 446 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: those survival instincts take over and so you have to 447 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: do is you have to get people out of the 448 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: survival mechanism and get into their consciousness and show them 449 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: how they can condition themselves to make that change quickly 450 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: when the fear shows up. A lot of it is conditioning, 451 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: you know. It's like one time, learning something happened freaked 452 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: you out in that moment, and you saw the bridge, 453 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: and now bridges freak you out every time you think 454 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: of it. And so that's why one time interventions can 455 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: also do the same thing. And most people don't believe that. 456 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: But the good news is I've been doing it, you know, 457 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: for this my forty seventh year. And you know, I 458 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: did this documentary a few years about a decade ago 459 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: on Netflix called Tony Robbins, I'm Not Your Guru, And 460 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: you know we did follow up on those people ten 461 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: years later, and now I've trained therapists all over the 462 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: world and we have hundreds of these interventions that we've done. Well, 463 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: you can see what I did in real time. I 464 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: didn't know what they're going to do, and then you 465 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 1: get to see them three years later, five years later 466 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: and see that the change is lasting. 467 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 2: Do you ever get burnt out? 468 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 1: Well, sure, physically, I get burned out. I don't get 469 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: burned out emotionally because I love what I do and 470 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: I love people. I love my family. It's pretty hard, 471 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,239 Speaker 1: you know. All I got to do is make I'm 472 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: a walk down the street. It's just like you. I mean, 473 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: you got to stop, I'm sure every day of your life. 474 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: But people thank me because they you know, they say 475 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: I changed their life. That's the number one thing. And 476 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: I'm I didn't do it, They did it. 477 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 4: I was reminded me of that. 478 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 3: Let me ask a question. How much is the message? 479 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 3: How much is is it the message? And how much 480 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 3: is it the delivery of the message, Because obviously you 481 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 3: have an incredible knack for the delivery of the message. 482 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 3: If it was some random dude sort of saying the 483 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 3: same shit that you're saying, but has no delivery, it's 484 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 3: not going to have the impact. 485 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: Well, that's a great question. Stanford came to me during 486 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: the you know, the middle of the pandemic, and they 487 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,479 Speaker 1: had two of their professors that went to my date 488 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 1: with Destiny Seminars, a five day seminari I do once 489 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: a year. They were both clinically depressed. They both left 490 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: with no science. Clinical depression got rid of their drugs. 491 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: And so the guys at Stanford called and said, this 492 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: is unbelievable. We never say like this. You know what 493 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: data do you have? And I said, well, I've got 494 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: millions of clients and testimonials and stories. They said about 495 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: like scientific data. I said that would never done a study. 496 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: If you want to do one, I'd love to. And 497 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: so what do you want to do it on? And 498 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: they said depression because obviously during the pandemic, you know, 499 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure you saw suicides went to the roof, drug 500 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: overdoses when through the roof. And I said, okay, well 501 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: what are we comparing too? What are the meta studies 502 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: show through traditional interventions for depression? And it's really depressing. 503 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: Sixty percent of the people of depression who go in 504 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: for drug therapy and or cognitive or some form of therapy, 505 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: sixty percent don't improve at all. Forty percent improve and 506 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: the average improvement is fifty percent, So they're half is depressed. Now, 507 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: some people get better, but so small. Most people say 508 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: on those SSRIs forever. And about a year and a 509 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: half ago, I'm sure you saw the covered Newsweek show 510 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: that SSRIs don't even work. We know they don't work, 511 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: and we still sell millions of them every single day. 512 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm on them. 513 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 4: I'm on twenty milligrams of lexapro. 514 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: Really yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 515 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 3: I tried to get I tried to wean off of it, 516 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 3: and I did properly, yes, and I went back into 517 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 3: it was it wasn't for depression, it was anxiety having 518 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 3: I fucking fell back in as I was a lout 519 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 3: of my mind and trying to fight through it, trying 520 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 3: to use other methods. And then I had to get back. 521 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 3: I had to go to work, I had to do 522 00:22:58,840 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 3: a job. 523 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 4: I was like, I can't function. 524 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 1: I have to go back on you know, well, as 525 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: you know, there are lots of side effects to them 526 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: as well that aren't so happy. And just think of 527 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: it this way. We don't experience life. We experience the 528 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: life we focus on. So in a moment, you can 529 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: create anxiety if you change your focus to certain things. 530 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 1: In another moment, like you could be at you could 531 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: be at a funeral with someone you love and everyone's 532 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: crying and then someone talks about some moment about the 533 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: deceased that's funny, and you go from crying to laughing instantaneously. 534 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: So you have a habit in the way you perceive 535 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: the world right now that controls your quote unquant anxiety. 536 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: It's not yours. By the way, The first thing I 537 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: do is I get rid of the word you are, 538 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: because when you got it becomes your identity and it 539 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: locks you hypnotically into the place. But I'll just tell 540 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: you what they proved. I said, Okay, what's the best 541 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 1: study you've ever done? And you might like the best 542 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: study they did it Johns Hopkins, and they gave people 543 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: psilocybin for thirty days. 544 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 3: I interviewed Matt Johnson, Johnson, the guy who runs Yeah, yeah, yeah, 545 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 3: But I was I was a question I was going 546 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 3: to have, how you feel about sort of the psilocybin 547 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 3: plant medicine therapies these days academy. 548 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: I'll answer that for four you as well. But that 549 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: study is I'm sure you know they did cognitive therapy 550 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: and psilocybin for thirty days. And I said, well, I 551 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: don't know what the result is, but you've been have 552 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: gotten something out of that, and you change somebody's bio 553 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: chemistry that much, And it was the best result they've 554 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: ever seen in the history of psychiatry up until that 555 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: point six weeks afterwards, fifty four percent of the people 556 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: had no symptoms of depression. So it's much better in 557 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: SSRIs obviously, but it's not legal in most parts of 558 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: the world, right in the country, so nothing's really happened 559 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: with it. So I said, well, why don't you use 560 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: that study to compare to ours. We'll use no drugs, 561 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: we'll do five days, not thirty days, and you can 562 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: test the result. The results guys were so dramatic that 563 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: they were afraid of being canceled before they published it, 564 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: so they sent and blind out to three different organizations 565 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: all the data. It all came back to the same. 566 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: Wasn't that hard? One hundred percent of people six weeks 567 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: later after the five day program with no drugs had 568 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: no version of it whatsoever. Ession better than that. Seventeen 569 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: percent of people they put in had suicidal ideation. Zero 570 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: had suicidal ideation. And then they followed up eleven months later. 571 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: They're going to do twelve months, but then COVID was 572 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: ending and people are going back to home, and they 573 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: had all these perfect statistics, so they did eleven months later. 574 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: Eleven months later, no depression with no interaction. You mean whatsoever? Again? 575 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: Not only none of that, but their negative emotions overall 576 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: were down seventy two percent, their positive was up fifty 577 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: one percent. And now they just did a one year 578 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: study that just ended in December on you know businesses. 579 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: Their level of engagement has changed obviously since COVID. So 580 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: it's about quiet quitting versus you know, put quitting versus engagement. 581 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: And all I know is in the first all the 582 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: numbers that they've ever had for engagement have gone through 583 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: the floor, the worst in history during COVID, and in 584 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: five days we reversed not only all the results but 585 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: got them better than they ever were before. And for 586 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: six months after they had kept climbing without any further talking. 587 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: So the reason that works to answer your question is 588 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: they took my same content. I guy from Stanford who's 589 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: one of the top professors, most popular professors, teach the 590 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: exact same content and he got pretty wonderful results for 591 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: about thirty days and then it dropped off the side. 592 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: What was the difference. Difference is the things that I 593 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: do change people's biochemistry, and so there's something they've measured. 594 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: They followed me for the same group, followed me for 595 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: three years, and they had me wear this sixty thousand 596 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: dollars device that measures heartright, veriability and everything else. During 597 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: the breaks, they take my saliva, they take you in 598 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: my blood and see what's happening. And they found that 599 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,719 Speaker 1: I have something that I do every time I'm on stage, 600 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: that the same thing Tom Brady does and many other 601 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: athletes they've measured. And Tom Brady was down in the 602 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, you know, very much like the last Super 603 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: Bowl for Kansas City, and he comes back to win, 604 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: and he's only got two minutes to do it. How's 605 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: he do it? Well? He goes into this biochemistry where 606 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: his testosterone surges, I mean peeks, which puts you in 607 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: this focused place where everything is retained. If I said, 608 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: where were you on nine to eleven? You both can 609 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: tell me where you were, who you saw? Where were 610 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: you on eight to eleven? You don't know the difference 611 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: is of motion tied to information sticks with you, right. 612 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: So when you have a testosterone search, everything gets absorbed. 613 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: But usually with testosterone you also get cortisol. That's the 614 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: stress hormone. But what happens to Tom and me and 615 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: others like us at that peak performance is the cortisol 616 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: drops through the floor. So all you love is this 617 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: focus not doesn't guarantee success, but it increases your probability 618 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: one hundredfold. The best part was they started then studying 619 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: my audience, and then we went digital, because you can imagine, 620 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: suddenly overnight I was doing stadiums. You know, for years 621 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: of fifteen twenty thousand people COVID, everything's shut down, the 622 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: stadiums are over. You put one hundred people in the stadium. Well, 623 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: you can't do that. So then I figured we'll move 624 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: to Vegas. They'll never shut Vegas. Well they shut down Baka. 625 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: It's like movie theaters. Ten people in a movie theater, 626 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: they shut down the frickin movie theater. So I built 627 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: five thousand score foot studio and twenty foot I led 628 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: screens zero point sixty seven, highest resolution in the world, 629 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: and I said, we're going to find a way to 630 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: do this people for people in their homes. So I 631 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: now do them literally in every country the world, one 632 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: hundred ninety three countries. I just did a seminar for 633 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: one point one million people for four days. And what's 634 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: amazing is they've gone into these countries and measure them 635 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: and they do the exact same. It looks like music. 636 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: As I go into this state, so does the audience. 637 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: And that's why eleven months later, the result is still 638 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: stuck in their body because it isn't just content, it 639 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: is strategy, but it's also absorbed in their nervous system. 640 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 3: How much how much do you have to how much 641 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 3: do you have to sort of, you know, turn off 642 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 3: your entrepreneurial brain and keep to your roots. Not to 643 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 3: say you are not that is your path, but obviously 644 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 3: you are an entrepreneur and it is a business for you. 645 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 3: And this business is crushing, you know, from a monetary standpoint, 646 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 3: but also changing lives, you know, I mean, do you 647 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 3: ever have to sit back and try to balance those 648 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 3: two things in your mind? 649 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: Because in the beginning, you know, I have no business background. 650 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: The beginning, it's just like I realized my ideas were 651 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: going to die on my lips. I was more of 652 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: an artist, you know. It's like, this is my art 653 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: helping people in this way, and yet my art, you know, 654 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: I had to put on an art show if I 655 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: wanted to see more than one person at a time, 656 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: and then I had to hire people. And I wasn't 657 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: good at me of those things. But I got good 658 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: because it was a mission for me. But you know, 659 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: I did it when I was near bankrupt. I did 660 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: it when I do well. I mean two thousand and eight, 661 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't have like I do now in 662 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: one hundred and fourteen companies, but I had about, oh 663 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: what I guess about fourteen companies at that time, and 664 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: you know it was brutal. I almost went bankrupt in 665 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: the middle of those pieces. So but I did it 666 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: because it's my love, it's my passion. I'll do it 667 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: as long as I possibly can. But I've learned to 668 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: get good in business too, because I love solving problems 669 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: and I love creating value in people's lives. So to me, 670 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: they're not really separated. It's all about how do you 671 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: maximize the quality of life for people? And anything I do, 672 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: there's no company I'm involved in that isn't something that 673 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: i'm I don't sell widgets or do things like that. 674 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: It's like it's like, you know, stem cells for example, 675 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: or ahi. It's the things that I think make a 676 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: difference in the quality of life. And so that gives 677 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: you so much energy when you're seeing that kind of impact. 678 00:29:58,800 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 3: Right. 679 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 2: Well, and now your newest book, but fully grail of investing. 680 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 2: I mean, now you're tackling one thing that is on 681 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 2: everybody's mind. I have a little bit of a theory 682 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 2: on this, and let me know what you think about this, 683 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 2: because I somehow feel like the digital world has got 684 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 2: everybody thinking like I have to be an entrepreneur, I 685 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: have to be someone building something. I have to be 686 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 2: a leader, and leaders look like this, and for me, 687 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 2: I think leadership looks so different. It has so many 688 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 2: different faces, and people are chasing this concept that is 689 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 2: not always the most reachable for certain types of people, personalities, craftsman's. 690 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 5: When you say look like this, I mean physically, No, No, 691 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 5: I mean I. 692 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 2: Mean in terms of the perception like, oh, I need 693 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 2: to run a business. Well, not everybody's built to actually 694 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 2: run the business. Some people are built to be the 695 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 2: creator in the business, to be us on the street 696 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 2: salesperson like some people are great salesmen, some people are 697 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 2: great innovators. But leadership has sort of lost. It's become 698 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: this concept that I think is really unreachable to so 699 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 2: many people, and I think it's causing a great amount 700 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 2: of stress in the young. Young children. They have this 701 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 2: concept of significance like if I don't do something significant, 702 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 2: then what am I? 703 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's social media driven that as too well now, 704 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: and that's the biggest challenge because people don't even project 705 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: what's correct, right. They put a filter on everything, they 706 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: make it better than it is. And that's why there's 707 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: so much depression, especially in young girls, because on top 708 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: of that, we have these stupid standards that are completely 709 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: different men versus women, that are unattainable. And yet these 710 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: girls then think I'm not enough as they see this. 711 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: The more they watch this stuff, it's foot unfortunate. But 712 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: I think I agree with you as far as leadership 713 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: becomes in so many different forms. Some people are leaders 714 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: in intellectually, some people are leaders emotionally. Some people are 715 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: leaders in the way they structure things, And I think 716 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: the illusion that it's one way. I talk about the 717 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: three types of leaders. Actually there's the artist, which is 718 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: really what I am. Quite honestly. I learned to be 719 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: an entrepreneur because I wanted my art to be reached 720 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: by a very large number of people, and you know, 721 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,239 Speaker 1: there's no real way to do it. There wasn't an 722 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: industry for me that could just distribute, so I had 723 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: to create my own distribution. But artists are people that 724 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: want to do things just because they fall in love 725 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: with the customer. They want to give them the best experience. 726 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: They want their life is that it's not the money. 727 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: And of course they want to earn money like anybody does. 728 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: But if they have to choose money versus their integrity, 729 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: there's zero question they're going for this. Then there's those 730 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: that are more like a manager leader. They love to 731 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: manage people and processes and they love that and they're 732 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: great at that. And then there are people they're all entrepreneurial. 733 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: But there's people that are entrepreneurs, entrepreneurs, pure entrepreneurs. You know, 734 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: they're just in it for the results. You know, they're 735 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: in it to build something and sell it. An artists 736 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: that I don't ever even think of selling their company. 737 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: An entrepreneurs sell their company a bet for the right price. 738 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: So I'm really the artist, to be honest with you. 739 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: But I became an entrepreneur in order to have the 740 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: impact that I wanted to have. But I surround myself 741 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: with pure entrepreneurs a lot of times because I'll overdo 742 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: everything because you know, I want to just so over deliver. 743 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: But coming to the economics. What I really think is 744 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: missing in our society is we did not teach young 745 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: people how to appreciate and take advantage of the American 746 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: enterprise system that we have. You don't have to be 747 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: a business owner. All you have to do is stop 748 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: being a consumer. So I'll give you the most simplistic example. 749 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: And you know we're all trained to be consumers. The 750 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: other day I was talking to this group of young people. 751 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: I was saying, how am I going to get through 752 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: to them on this? And so I said, how do 753 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: you guys have an iPhone? I did my homework in advance. 754 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: I thought about it the night before. They all raise 755 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: their head. I said, when you have more than one iPhone? 756 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: Over the years, you've had more than one. They all 757 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: raise their head and I all but like two kids. 758 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: And I said, okay, well I've had iPhone since the 759 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: very beginning. You guys have iPhones? Yeah, okay, so I 760 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: bought them since the very beginning two thousands se and 761 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: I have the first iPhone. I just got a new 762 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: one for a year. Like most people been around long 763 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: enough to do that. Well, if you add it all up, 764 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: well you actually I found the exact prices as they 765 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: came out of it, and it's twenty thousand, three hundred 766 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: dollars you would have spent on iPhones now if you 767 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: bought the stock of Apple, if you stop being a 768 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: damn consumer and for a moment said I'm going to 769 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: be an owner, and you bought the first iPhone was 770 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: six hundred and fifty seven dollars with change with tax, 771 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: and you bought Apple at that point, what it was 772 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: six hundred and fifty seven dollars WOU get for you? 773 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: And I did that all the way through to now 774 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: it's wheth two hundred and six thousand dollars. Yeah, So 775 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: it's like kids today think socialism is great. I went 776 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: to the Soviet Union when I was twenty three years old. 777 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: I was brought over because of the firewalk, and I 778 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: got to see it is not equal at all. I 779 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: was on a train going from Moscow to to the 780 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: far side of the country and back, and I was 781 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: traveling these people and having caviar. And then we'd stop 782 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: on the train in the city and there'd be a 783 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: line a quarter of a mile long around the building, 784 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: people standing in the freezing colts that'd get a quart 785 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: of milk and half a loaf of bread. So our 786 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: world has no I taught young people what's possible other 787 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 1: than you got to look good, be the best, be 788 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: the leader, you know, be an influencer, and unfortunately that's 789 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 1: getting exhausted. And so you see a lot of people 790 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 1: doing the opposite, saying, you know, I'm going to quiet quitting, 791 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: I'm do the minimum. I don't need to hustle on 792 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: the side. We've going from one extreme to the other, and. 793 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 5: Quiet quitting is sort of the new buzzword. 794 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 4: I've been hearing it. 795 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, the quiet Yeah, yeah, what does it mean? What 796 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 5: is quiet meaning? Like you're quitting life, You're just fucking 797 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 5: giving up? 798 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: Well pretty much. But what they do is is I 799 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: don't need to work so hard. I'm going to do 800 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: the minimum out of work where I don't lose my job. 801 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I don't need to be so responsive 802 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: to my boss. So I'm not going to quit, but 803 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: I'm quietly I am quitting. I'm still getting paid. And 804 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 1: they're loud quitting, which is people that try to destroy 805 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: the company before they leave to try to put another job. 806 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 1: And these are really terrible patterns that have come in 807 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 1: extreme to people feel only got to hustle every moment, 808 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: and now with inflation, they're going like, I need eleven 809 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: thousand dollars for the average family more per year to 810 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: buy the same stuff. So what they haven't learned is 811 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: how to be more productive, you know, when they ask 812 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: more and Buffett, how do you feel about inflation? Aren't 813 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: you panicked? 814 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 4: And he said no. 815 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: He said it's not going to stay at eight percent inflation. 816 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: But if it did, all you got to be is 817 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: ten percent more productive, and you can be fine. And 818 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: he said, you work about the currency, and you're a 819 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: great lawyer or doctor or speaker or podcaster, and we 820 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: have shekels, you'll get the most shekels. It's really about 821 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: adding value. Once again, the same principles we talked about. 822 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 2: Tony. You have one hundred and forty one businesses. 823 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 5: No, forty one fourteen, one hundred and fourteen. 824 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 6: That's us. 825 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, one hundred and forty one. 826 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 3: Is I get another one? 827 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 4: I got to pitch for another business. 828 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 2: If you recognize quiet quitting in your teams, if you 829 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 2: recognize even loud quitters in your teams, or someone who 830 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 2: is sort of like maybe it may be possible that 831 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 2: they go move in that direction. What's your what do 832 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 2: you do? How do you communicate? 833 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: We're you know, we don't leave anything on seid. We 834 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: pull people aside and we coach them right away, and 835 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: we say, listen, if this isn't the right place for you, 836 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: the demands are too strong, it's okay. But if you 837 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: want to go to the next level, we'd like to 838 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: coach you, and we'd like to understand what your goals 839 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: are and what your dreams are. The second study that's 840 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: I told you about, the year long study, was done 841 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: on quiet quitting, and after five days we turned it 842 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: around for people from all walks of life. What they're 843 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 1: really missing is what I call a compelling future. And 844 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,439 Speaker 1: like anyone can deal with the difficult today if they've 845 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: got a compelling tomorrow, right. But these days, kids are 846 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: taught you know that the whole world's going to disappear 847 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 1: in twelve years because if environmental disaster, which is total bullshit. 848 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: I mean, we have to deal with the environment, but 849 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: the world's not going away in twelve So I'm not 850 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 1: going to have a child. I can't do anything. There's 851 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: no future. It's not their fault. They're immersed in this 852 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: every day, over and over again. Totally. You know, Kitler 853 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: said to I, big enough, loud enough, long enough, people 854 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: will believe you. And boy, with social media and media today, 855 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: we certainly do that. And we all know negativity cells 856 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: for that mental bias we talked about. Right, it's like 857 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 1: it leads, It leads as in journalism, right, why because 858 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: the brain reacts. And by the way, if you click 859 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: on you know that. 860 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 2: The brain loves it. 861 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 1: Brain am I shot anger you, I get you more engaged, 862 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: you know, I on that thing. Even if the title 863 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: it's clickbait, it doesn't match the article. I still get 864 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,760 Speaker 1: paid if you click it. So yeah, they're not bad people. 865 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 5: They're just how many times you click an article and 866 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 5: it has nothing to do with what the headline? 867 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you're talking to me. I can't even 868 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 2: tell you how many times I've sat in interviews where 869 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 2: someone just read the headline. 870 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and I'm like, I don't even know what. 871 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,919 Speaker 2: You're talking about. What are you talking about? They're like, well, 872 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 2: it's said in the thing, and I'm like, oh no, 873 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 2: that has nothing to do with anything that I said. 874 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,280 Speaker 3: Actually, interesting, where is your take on sort of misinformation? 875 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: These days? 876 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 3: The access to misinformation is sort of essentially you're yelling 877 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 3: fire in a theater. Now, as the first Amendment, that 878 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,359 Speaker 3: was the amendment of the first Amendment where you free 879 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 3: speech until that. Now it seems like the theater is 880 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 3: social media, and there you can create theaters. 881 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 4: Of thousands of people to yell fire in. 882 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: And even government just did that two days ago when 883 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: they came out and said, oh, we have this huge emergency. 884 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 1: You know you should be fearful of a don't panic, 885 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: but we're not going to tell you what it is. 886 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: And it was it was just not true, right, It's 887 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: something that's been going on, they've known about for years. 888 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: It was just designed to scare people so that they 889 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 1: could pass those the money for Ukraine, and you might 890 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: support them with saying money Ukraine. But it's a really 891 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 1: bad technique. But they found through what they did with 892 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: COVID and many other things, fear controls people if you 893 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: have enough fear there. So it's it's extremely unfortunate. But 894 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,919 Speaker 1: also the problem is when you try to curtail quote misinformation, 895 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: who makes that decision, right, So now you end up 896 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: with large bodies of information being controlled for their interests. 897 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 1: So it's it's a difficult thing. And what we have 898 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: to de young people is how to think critically. It's 899 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: not about not having there's always been misinformation. 900 00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 4: Always right now, it's just there's just so many avenues and. 901 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 2: Hoping that we can always have access to all kinds 902 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 2: of information as well. 903 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: You know. 904 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, Tony, We're gonna we're gonna break 905 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 2: this up into two parts. There's so much to talk about. 906 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 5: We love talking to you, Yeah, we don't. 907 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 4: Let's be a three hour episode. 908 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 3: So we need to break it up because what you're 909 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 3: saying is too I don't know, it's too important. 910 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 2: Well, and all this financial insight is to me like 911 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 2: I wish people. Actually, well no, you just don't learn 912 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 2: this in school. Younger generation aren't prepared for this. So 913 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 2: I think this is very important. So let's let's reconvene