Speaker 1: I'm then to do vaugh and this is Conversations with
Speaker 1: the podcast. Today's guest is a rapper from Saint Louis, Missouri.
Speaker 1: Let's welcome Diamond Smith, better known as Big Boss VET.
Speaker 2: Finally got me in here. I'm in here now.
Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm doing it, but I'm doing it
Speaker 1: on the strength of my people's Dolly and Clay.
Speaker 2: They got me in here.
Speaker 1: You need people like that, though, people like that in
Speaker 1: your corner to make you do stuff, because those be
Speaker 1: the main things that take you to the next level.
Speaker 1: And guess who's my first guess. I got a first
Speaker 1: guess in here. You know, I don't know too much
Speaker 1: about it, but I know it through family. And if
Speaker 1: this family fucks with him, I fuck with him. So
Speaker 1: let me introduce y'all, Big Boss Vetat.
Speaker 2: Big Boss VET, a.
Speaker 1: Lot of people come to meet for advice and shit
Speaker 1: and therapy, you know, in my regular life. So I
Speaker 1: figured I figured in the industry, a lot of people
Speaker 1: need advice in therapy with regular lifestyle, not so much
Speaker 1: with business, but with life in general, because getting the
Speaker 1: money be the easy part in the industry, but what
Speaker 1: to do with and how to enjoy it is the
Speaker 1: hard part.
Speaker 2: So they come to me.
Speaker 1: So I figured, Shit, why don't I ask somebody that's
Speaker 1: new in the industry, that's doing her thing and maybe
Speaker 1: she needs some help, So you could talk to me
Speaker 1: about everything. But first let me tell them about you though,
Speaker 1: you know, because I got some of the stuff here.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: This is what I know her from from this song
Speaker 1: pretty girl walk like this this this, that's what I
Speaker 1: know her from, you know. But she also got the
Speaker 1: song Snatch problem Karma and I don't need you know.
Speaker 1: She performed at the BET Awards pre show in La.
Speaker 1: She was featured in the Cipher You know her snatched
Speaker 1: stream for over fifteen million times, one of the top
Speaker 1: sounds used on TikTok Snatch remix with Sausa Santana Flo
Speaker 1: Millie was released this past fall.
Speaker 2: Oh you're from Saint Louis. You're from the Lou the
Speaker 2: lou Okay you giving what? Tell me?
Speaker 1: Tell me about the lou Tell me where you're from, temp,
Speaker 1: tell me a little about yourself, Like tell me what
Speaker 1: got you in the game, Like like give me like
Speaker 1: I wanted, like your your upbringing, like your family bringing,
Speaker 1: and what transition into the industry.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So I want to say it all
Speaker 3: started in twenty fourteen. I was a broke high school student.
Speaker 3: I don't even think that my phone was on, Honestly,
Speaker 3: I think I just was. I just had a phone,
Speaker 3: like using it.
Speaker 4: On Wi Fi and money.
Speaker 3: Damn. I've seen people going viral for like doing like cover,
Speaker 3: so I'm like.
Speaker 4: Let me hop on the cover and off what covers covers?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So my first cover was the Day's Love Tried Me
Speaker 3: and I did not know how to wrap on beat
Speaker 3: back in the day. So I'm like, I'm gonna just
Speaker 3: do it. We gotta be And when I did it,
Speaker 3: I think I posted the video like seven summer night.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: The next morning went to school totally for gud that
Speaker 3: I even posted the video. I posted a picture and
Speaker 3: the mother god like a thousand likes in like thirty minutes.
Speaker 4: I'm like, space, was.
Speaker 2: You let me ask you something? Not to cut you off?
Speaker 2: But I did? Was it? Was you already kind of popular?
Speaker 3: Nah?
Speaker 2: Nah?
Speaker 4: I was. I was a regular school student. I was.
Speaker 2: I don't know, did you have a lot of friends?
Speaker 2: Was you like in the cool crew?
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 3: I was just cool to sell so I would say yeah,
Speaker 3: but then again, I'm gonna say, was you.
Speaker 2: Popular in your school? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I actually was.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just trying to see how to what might
Speaker 1: have caused the thousand. What'd you say you had interview.
Speaker 4: A thousand or something like yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 3: What they're going on, Like I have never got the
Speaker 3: men likes, so I'm like, like, what's going on? And
Speaker 3: I posted a second picture because I'm like, let me
Speaker 3: see if it's gonna do the same thing, and they
Speaker 3: had like two thousands. I'm like like, yo, what's going on.
Speaker 3: So I'm going through my notifications on Facebook and I
Speaker 3: realized that the video that I supposed to do on
Speaker 3: the cover to the Days like Trying Me went viral,
Speaker 3: so that's where all them likes were coming in from.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh shit. So I'm reading the comments
Speaker 3: and they're like, so you saw pretty I'm like and
Speaker 3: I'm just like, I'm not a rapper like this this
Speaker 3: is just fun, Like I don't, like, I don't know
Speaker 3: what's going on. So fast forwarded like I just started
Speaker 3: like kept on doing covers, like, kept on doing covers,
Speaker 3: and I kept going viral of them I got in
Speaker 3: the studio and I did a I had laid the
Speaker 3: cover down to the Ludacris that moved to get out
Speaker 3: to that beat. And that's when I started getting booked
Speaker 3: to like sing my songs.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, yo, like you.
Speaker 2: Got off the ground running, yo.
Speaker 3: And I was so nervous because I'm like, what am
Speaker 3: I supposed to do with all this new found family?
Speaker 4: Like I don't know.
Speaker 2: You had to learn as you go.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: So I had one manager, which was my cousin, and
Speaker 3: we was working together for a while, and I was
Speaker 3: just like, yeah, it's not working off for me no more.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: For my first show ever, I think they paid me
Speaker 3: like seven hundred dollars like drive fourteen hours. And I
Speaker 3: was so excited about this year, Like I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I was excited. I'm like, damn, like you want to
Speaker 3: pay to hear me wrap us all on that, you know,
Speaker 3: Like like I ain't even know rapper, like you say
Speaker 3: my beat.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. Do you got siblings siblings
Speaker 1: like brothers and sisters.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I wasn't really close to none of my siblings.
Speaker 3: I was only close to my cousin.
Speaker 2: And I'm in the brothers and sisters you got.
Speaker 3: I got two brothers and I got one sister on
Speaker 3: my mom's side. I got a brother on my daily
Speaker 3: side and the sister I never met, and also have
Speaker 3: step siblings and siblings that I've met in this industry.
Speaker 1: So okay, so you got family outside like like me
Speaker 1: and my people's dollar, we family outside of the.
Speaker 4: Family at me and there because now we y'all feel me.
Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, so let me see all right, So
Speaker 1: you said, I'm trying to get more into like the
Speaker 1: family part of it too, Like like, so you went
Speaker 1: from Saint Louis, he was in the music he was
Speaker 1: in high school.
Speaker 2: When when this's when you went to high school. He
Speaker 2: was in high school.
Speaker 1: So from there, what was you doing before you was
Speaker 1: doing that just just in school? Regular? Did you have
Speaker 1: a job? Like how was the family structure like everything?
Speaker 4: I wasn't really close to my family, to be honest,
Speaker 4: like I had them blocked on.
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 1: That's kind of because I heard you say when I
Speaker 1: asked you about your your siblings, like I don't really
Speaker 1: fuck with them like that.
Speaker 3: That's what I did it, but now I do. But
Speaker 3: back in the day, I did not like let's get
Speaker 3: into that. I was like the black sheep of the family.
Speaker 2: Like I like, why did they think you was the
Speaker 2: black sheep?
Speaker 3: Because I was not no yes man, Like I had
Speaker 3: grew up with the family that thought like, no matter
Speaker 3: what they said to you, you're not supposed to say
Speaker 3: them back. But I've always been that person that they
Speaker 3: would like be like, damn, what the fuck you're talking
Speaker 3: to me right that, you know, like you ain't even
Speaker 3: gotta say it like that, or I just was it
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 2: Of both of y'all.
Speaker 1: It was a little bit of like because like sometimes
Speaker 1: cause it's happened to me sometimes, like sometimes you you
Speaker 1: want to you want to buck on people, but it's
Speaker 1: same time they just trying to help you in the
Speaker 1: way that they think they can help you, but then
Speaker 1: they be wrong in the motherfucker and then sometimes you
Speaker 1: be wrong in the motherfucking So like you said, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all cool now, But did y'all have to come to
Speaker 1: that understanding to take a while or how did y'all
Speaker 1: get to that point?
Speaker 3: So me and my siblings talk to me, we was
Speaker 3: we was literally only closed when it was like time
Speaker 3: to fight, Like like I don't care what I said
Speaker 3: to my siblings. Can't Nobody else had that ship to them,
Speaker 3: like like I didn't like, I didn't care.
Speaker 2: But supposed to be.
Speaker 3: But we would, but we would just be like it
Speaker 3: would it would be a fucking jungle in our damn house.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, we didn't. We didn't grow up close. We
Speaker 4: just didn't.
Speaker 2: Did they grow? Did they do? They? Are? They in
Speaker 2: the industry too? Music and all?
Speaker 3: They have regularized or regular nine to fives? Like I
Speaker 3: went from being a black sheet to the first million
Speaker 3: or in my family, I ain't cast that check, but
Speaker 3: I'm the first millionaire.
Speaker 2: And will you like the youngest oldest.
Speaker 3: I'm the I'm the youngest baby. I'm the baby.
Speaker 2: And what's the oldest?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: He liked thirty So okay, he thirty something some I
Speaker 3: don't know, but thirty something. And she had like I
Speaker 3: think twenty fifteen was like when I went down like
Speaker 3: a really really dark ass path. Like also, so I
Speaker 3: had like a lot of nine and fives then I
Speaker 3: was doing her and you know it was like things
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 1: So I got you at that dark spot? What you
Speaker 1: think I got shot? I said, what got you out
Speaker 1: of it?
Speaker 4: I got shot.
Speaker 2: Oh you was in the dark spot before you got shot. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I thought the dogs.
Speaker 1: I thought shit, oh wait wait wait wait you got
Speaker 1: a life foldo?
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah alright, so so so talk to me. All right,
Speaker 2: so what happened?
Speaker 3: So boom mind you. I told you that I was
Speaker 3: only close to my cousin. Her name was Taja.
Speaker 2: We was like around the same age.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, and twenty fifteen the beginning of our senior year.
Speaker 3: Yeah you know, not senior because I graduated twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3: She dad before she started school. And they like send
Speaker 3: me down a really dark path because I felt like
Speaker 3: that I had nobody died. Oh it was we gotta
Speaker 3: talk off okay but yeah, so yeah, and they send
Speaker 3: me down dark path to where I was literally meeting
Speaker 3: people trying to make everybody tas you. And that was
Speaker 3: like putting me in bad situations. Like I was always fighting.
Speaker 3: I was always in.
Speaker 1: Trying to trying to make them all like you like
Speaker 1: your cousin, yeah, like like trying to make him feel
Speaker 1: that void.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I get you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I didn't have to feel me.
Speaker 3: That was like, let me go get you help, you know,
Speaker 3: like maybe need to talk to somebody like, which is like,
Speaker 3: now I won't go to therapy.
Speaker 4: I mean I might need to, everybody need to, but
Speaker 4: I won't go Why. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's just therapy.
Speaker 1: You don't have to be like a therapist. It could
Speaker 1: be just somebody that you're comfortable with talking with.
Speaker 3: And that's why I got you on this side. I'm
Speaker 3: going I'm gonna lay it all down real soon.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so.
Speaker 3: I was like going crazy, like I was losing my mind.
Speaker 3: I didn't carry about my life. Ain't nobody else like
Speaker 3: I didn't care and I didn't care. And on her
Speaker 3: one year death in the anniversary was like two in
Speaker 3: the morning, we was leaving a party and went to
Speaker 3: go fight some ship I ain't even some ship that
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have even drove to, you know, pulled up
Speaker 3: and they weren't trying to fight. It was like gun
Speaker 3: just sid.
Speaker 4: I'm like, damn.
Speaker 3: You know, when them billet started going, I froze because
Speaker 3: I'm like damn, like like.
Speaker 4: But I've been bamboo. This is not you know, this
Speaker 4: is going on you know and ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like we was, we was fighting everybody, so we
Speaker 3: thought it was cool.
Speaker 4: It's just fight.
Speaker 2: It was like you know girls.
Speaker 3: Na, it wasn't no, it was no so no, it
Speaker 3: was it was girls in the background that we were
Speaker 3: supposed to go to, and when we got there, we
Speaker 3: didn't like the girls was really nonexistent because nobody's saying nothing.
Speaker 3: They would say it on the phone, were like going
Speaker 3: on and then men started speaking up and it's like
Speaker 3: er like we weren't even walking with y'all. And then
Speaker 3: luckily my cousin was there.
Speaker 4: We got shot with.
Speaker 2: Them, and.
Speaker 3: Shit, that ship went left like like immediately, and when
Speaker 3: I froze, something just like snapped me out of it
Speaker 3: and was like did you get down?
Speaker 4: Like what are you doing? Like you can't fight no bullet?
Speaker 3: So it was it was it was literally me, my
Speaker 3: cousin and my group was like back hurt.
Speaker 4: But he was the front of cinemas and.
Speaker 3: I had knew one of the people, so I'm like, y'all,
Speaker 3: let's just not do this because I know you and
Speaker 3: I know what, so let's just yea.
Speaker 4: Now, this was before and we.
Speaker 3: Were supposed to just walk away and just be like
Speaker 3: all right, y'all, just let it go on our way
Speaker 3: walking away. One of my cousins have to get the
Speaker 3: last word, and the dude was like, what you saying, nigga,
Speaker 3: and my cousin repeating itself. And then one dude started
Speaker 3: shooting earth, and I guess the other one thought he
Speaker 3: was shot he was shooting at us because he didn't
Speaker 3: even look over before he started to shooting.
Speaker 4: He literally just started aiming at business. And and you
Speaker 4: can tell that the that the gun was too much
Speaker 4: for him to handle because his hand was just just
Speaker 4: going really fucking nearly.
Speaker 3: Yes. So I got down and then then I got up,
Speaker 3: and then I see my cousin, so I'm so I'm
Speaker 3: trying to go, you know, lift him up, like come on,
Speaker 3: let's go, Let's go. Because I didn't even realize I
Speaker 3: was shot yet, and I'm seeing blood fall and I'm like,
Speaker 3: what the fuck? And I'm and I'm and I'm checking myself.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, I'm like these I'm I'm shot, like
Speaker 3: and then that is that is when I started feeling
Speaker 3: this burning sensation that was like say, you say you
Speaker 3: like touch a stove and you like, but you but
Speaker 3: you cannot pull away, so which is constant burning.
Speaker 4: So that ship I.
Speaker 3: Started digging them off. I'm trying to like stop the
Speaker 3: burning it was. It was it was crazy and so.
Speaker 2: That there made you made you come to your senses.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like because like afterwards, like it was, it
Speaker 3: was a lot of ship that I went through with
Speaker 3: that situation, and.
Speaker 2: It was like I was process.
Speaker 4: Oh this ship was once on.
Speaker 3: Then my my bull room actually got infected and well
Speaker 3: they won't take the bullet out. So I'm like, all right,
Speaker 3: because I cause I was hearing stories of people push
Speaker 3: their bullets out.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Actually they wouldn't give me the bullet or tell me
Speaker 3: what I was here with. They they actually took it
Speaker 3: into evidence. They wouln't give it to me. So after
Speaker 3: like it didn't hurt no more.
Speaker 4: I was trying to push the bullet out myself because
Speaker 4: I was tarning people do it, and they was like
Speaker 4: it didn't and didn't kill them. So I'm like, oh fuck,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do it too.
Speaker 3: I tried to do it, and like this, this yellowish
Speaker 3: greenish substance started like oozing out of my arm and
Speaker 3: I couldn't stop it.
Speaker 4: I'm like, something is wrong.
Speaker 3: Went to the doctor and realized that it was an
Speaker 3: infection coming out, and they wound up taking the bullet
Speaker 3: out you know, they took it from me. They was like,
Speaker 3: we can't tell you about it, right, And I'm like
Speaker 3: all right, you know. And then a year later, I
Speaker 3: started getting this pain in my arm and I'm like,
Speaker 3: what the fucking on I like, and I'm like, maybe
Speaker 3: it's like a nerve damage, right, and I and like
Speaker 3: one day I was in so much pain, I'm like,
Speaker 3: something is wrong. I went back to the doctor and
Speaker 3: realized that it was a fragmenting on the nerve that
Speaker 3: was fucking me up and it traveled like up my arm.
Speaker 4: It was like right here.
Speaker 3: So like after yeah, I got your hair, and it
Speaker 3: like traveled her within a year and they was like
Speaker 3: it was going to keep traveling till they really smart
Speaker 3: and it could have killed me. So I needed to
Speaker 3: get surgery to get out. I'm like, damn, bitch almost
Speaker 3: died three times.
Speaker 4: God damn, Like shit, why you.
Speaker 2: Was going through it? Did it?
Speaker 1: Did you realize? What was you like in survival mode?
Speaker 1: Like I probably could die fucking around.
Speaker 2: And what you just like.
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, litt to get the shit out,
Speaker 3: like like I'm like I'm tired of dealing with this shit,
Speaker 3: Like damn, Like like I don't even live that, like
Speaker 3: no more, like this ship is over with like stop,
Speaker 3: you know?
Speaker 1: Is that what made you transfer to like all right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put more into this music thing to get
Speaker 1: up out of here than get to Atlanta?
Speaker 4: Nah?
Speaker 3: Nah? So what made me go into music is like
Speaker 3: the day yeah, like two days after I got shot,
Speaker 3: So my call looked like a fucking murders and it
Speaker 3: was blood eirwhere and nobody would have me cleaned out?
Speaker 3: And it was this man that I met, and he
Speaker 3: was like cool as hell and he literally was a
Speaker 3: fucking wolf and sheep clothing, so he helped me clean
Speaker 3: my car out. He was like so nice to me,
Speaker 3: wolf and sheep clothes, and I promise he was. He
Speaker 3: was everything that I could have wanted at first until
Speaker 3: he finally got me. And then the bitch went into
Speaker 3: demon time like demon mold like he was different, you know,
Speaker 3: and two months but being as though that I created
Speaker 3: a trauma bomb him and it was a coldependency. It
Speaker 3: was like I was I was up with how.
Speaker 2: Did it change you?
Speaker 1: How you feel like the accident changed you? Because he
Speaker 1: was there too, He was there through the healing part.
Speaker 1: Yeah supposed yeah, so he really didn't.
Speaker 4: Heal, like okay, so he was.
Speaker 3: He was there through the hell and like because I
Speaker 3: had to like separate myself from everybody who I was
Speaker 3: with because I didn't want to be outside fighting no more.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to do all this no more.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, like I'm wasting my life right now,
Speaker 3: like I could be doing something better.
Speaker 4: And that's when I started focusing on music.
Speaker 3: And then once I used to like rap up my verses,
Speaker 3: he would be like, I don't I don't want you
Speaker 3: talking like that any songs people don't like, Like niggas
Speaker 3: just going to fuck you if they hear you talking
Speaker 3: like that, they ain't even gonna like your music. Like
Speaker 3: like he was instilling that shit in my mind, and
Speaker 3: I thought that this nigga knew what he was talking
Speaker 3: about at one point in time, until he would get
Speaker 3: caught cheating and then I'll drop a song and then
Speaker 3: I go viral, and then he would start acting back
Speaker 3: right and then I and then I would not drop
Speaker 3: no more music, and then he and then he would
Speaker 3: get caught cheating again.
Speaker 4: Then I drop these songs.
Speaker 3: So I started to come to realization, like, yo, God
Speaker 3: is teaching me to get the fuck away from you.
Speaker 3: Literally once I got away from that man, when I
Speaker 3: say my life elevated times team, like I was like
Speaker 3: getting bookings like every fucking weekend. I had a new manager,
Speaker 3: like like I was like living life and then shit.
Speaker 1: So what advice you would give somebody that's in the
Speaker 1: situation that went through what you went through is fucking
Speaker 1: shot and getting with this man that he was supposed
Speaker 1: to be helping you but he ended up being like me, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Go to a therapist.
Speaker 3: I do not cut everybody off for one person, because
Speaker 3: you would create a very hard codependency that is very
Speaker 3: hard to even break that shit like this shit is horrible.
Speaker 4: You know this is hard.
Speaker 2: So you need to take your own advice.
Speaker 4: Yes, I do.
Speaker 3: I do, Like, how did you stay so positive when
Speaker 3: everything is falling the party around you?
Speaker 1: You control the things you can and the things you can't.
Speaker 1: Fuck it, it's really.
Speaker 3: Since say fucking with a smile on your face or
Speaker 3: you say fuck it with tours eyes both.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I usually only cry for tears of joy or
Speaker 1: something like personal. I don't cry for problems that the
Speaker 1: world problems like really problems, a career problems?
Speaker 4: Do you cry about them? Have you ever crowd about it.
Speaker 1: No, No, But see I'm I've been in this game
Speaker 1: so long that my career is just like it is
Speaker 1: what it is at this point. It's like it's I've
Speaker 1: programmed my my career so much to where you know,
Speaker 1: you plant seeds, not even grow nows, and all I
Speaker 1: gotta do is keep keep watering.
Speaker 2: So that's really where I'm at now.
Speaker 1: But even at even at your level when just getting
Speaker 1: in the game, as far as the industry, you can't
Speaker 1: really you can't really like put dwell on something that
Speaker 1: that's that's not that you can't control, you see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So, like it's like the lottery. This's how
Speaker 1: I treat the industry. Like the lottery. It's like you
Speaker 1: won't you can't play, you can't win unless you play.
Speaker 1: At the same time, you don't quit your job or
Speaker 1: you don't quit living your life and depend on just
Speaker 1: the job. You get what I'm saying. So that's how
Speaker 1: I treat the industry. It's like I do this shit
Speaker 1: at the same time, I don't put all my love
Speaker 1: into the industry. I got life outside of the industry.
Speaker 1: So if the industry gone or something happened, like say,
Speaker 1: feeling like twenty twenty when it wasn't nothing to do,
Speaker 1: I still had a life, so I never really seen
Speaker 1: the difference in the transition of what happened.
Speaker 2: So that's how I treat it.
Speaker 4: Do you for being canceled?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: How to get canceled every week? Shit, dude, That's why
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 1: That's the main reason what took me so long to
Speaker 1: do a podcast, because I don't like to talk so
Speaker 1: much because the more you talk, the more they got
Speaker 1: to the more they got to take from you and
Speaker 1: to take the wrong way. So when I try to talk,
Speaker 1: I try to talk when it's purposeful, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, stall just randomly talking.
Speaker 2: That's what podcasts do a lot. So do you.
Speaker 3: Feel like kind of sensor on yourself make you unhappy
Speaker 3: within your job?
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, because I've been I've been able to say
Speaker 1: and do what I want for so long, and so
Speaker 1: now it's to the point life has changed to where
Speaker 1: how people see things like safe things like being sarcastic.
Speaker 1: Being sarcastic used to work great, that's really what my
Speaker 1: comedy is, being sarcastic, but they don't read well online. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, so It's been like a task for me
Speaker 1: to go with the times because now the youngest generation,
Speaker 1: they don't read sarcasm, like how we did it? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, So I have to understand it,
Speaker 1: so I don't really get upset with it. I don't
Speaker 1: get trip off of I just understand what the game is.
Speaker 1: But the good thing is being who I am. I
Speaker 1: can get away with a lot more than the average
Speaker 1: person because y'all know me for who I am, so
Speaker 1: I can the people that know me know me. It's
Speaker 1: just the new people that don't know me, they might
Speaker 1: take it the wrong way. It's like your uncle, you know,
Speaker 1: your granddaddy, he say crazy shit. Even if you know
Speaker 1: it's your granddaddy. You was like, all right, he's just
Speaker 1: that's just grand dad. That's how they look at me. Now,
Speaker 1: let's just do vall. He's just saying shit. You got
Speaker 1: to get to that point, and it takes a long time.
Speaker 1: It takes a lot of getting canceled, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't recommend it to people, you know,
Speaker 1: but it's what I signed up for, you know. But
Speaker 1: for somebody like you, I wouldn't. Don't always go against
Speaker 1: the grain, because sometimes going against the grain can can
Speaker 1: mess up something for your future. Shit, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So just just put that in because sometimes
Speaker 1: you be like, fuck it, I want to do what
Speaker 1: I want to do, and sometimes just that's why you
Speaker 1: want to have somebody good in your coner that you trust.
Speaker 1: Now you don't have to listen to everybody, but somebody
Speaker 1: that's just like that.
Speaker 4: You trust that that is Snake for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Snake a good one. How do you feel
Speaker 3: about because this is this is like this should be
Speaker 3: a nationally asked question. Okay, So when a female rapper,
Speaker 3: right when when when people ask her like, oh, are
Speaker 3: you in a relationship or are you single? Do you
Speaker 3: feel like that if she's in a relationship, she is
Speaker 3: handling her career.
Speaker 4: Now why not?
Speaker 1: How could it? I don't get how why do people
Speaker 1: think of the hinder your career? If your career is
Speaker 1: your career. It's like it's like saying at a regular job,
Speaker 1: if you work in a corporate business, like it's the
Speaker 1: wife hindering his career.
Speaker 3: No. But like, but as a female rapper, like you
Speaker 3: have to be a fantasy, like people cannot know your
Speaker 3: personal life because now they quick to judge you not.
Speaker 2: It's like saying that if people don't know I got
Speaker 2: old lady, the women ain't gonna like me. No.
Speaker 3: See it's different for men. Men could be married and
Speaker 3: and bitches do not give a fuck. But if a
Speaker 3: girl is in a relationship, they hate her.
Speaker 1: You think so, I don't know the hat her? So
Speaker 1: do you think so? You think the same thing about
Speaker 1: Cardi b Her and her dude and all set.
Speaker 3: No, no, no no, because I feel like they were
Speaker 3: already rich. It's like, once you're rich, I don't I
Speaker 3: don't have personal life from you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What about Queen Naja her whole relationship she started with
Speaker 1: a dude, a dude right there, they watched the whole thing.
Speaker 3: Nah see okay, but no, no, the story was different though,
Speaker 3: like like like if like the world do not like
Speaker 3: watching women being treated like nothing? You know, like if
Speaker 3: if we see somebody hurting you, we want you to
Speaker 3: get about the situation and we're gonna be here to
Speaker 3: support you until you do. But if you're happy and
Speaker 3: that relationship is different, I don't believe that.
Speaker 1: I think it's all how you can make it, like
Speaker 1: like that's the Queen Nage She's a perfect example.
Speaker 2: She showed her whole. Not only is it what she showed.
Speaker 1: She started off on YouTube showing her relationship and showing
Speaker 1: how they grew together and through that, her music reflected that,
Speaker 1: and that's why it worked. Like people buy into the Yeah,
Speaker 1: so if they bind to you as a person, whatever,
Speaker 1: come with you, it's gonna work. You get, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's just like with me, they buying
Speaker 1: to me as a person. So if they know I
Speaker 1: got an old lady, they know I like women that
Speaker 1: like women. Everybody knows that, so they go with it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Now, if I came off
Speaker 1: like I'm just this guy in a relationship and they
Speaker 1: find out I'm over here fucking bitches, this, that, and whatever,
Speaker 1: they not gonna go with it.
Speaker 2: It's just like finding out a rapper, ain't he a snitch?
Speaker 2: You get? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like he ain't the person I thought he would.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing in that. But if you fit
Speaker 1: the person that they think you is, you could be
Speaker 1: what the fuck you want to be.
Speaker 2: You get. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I do that was explained fucking well I like that,
Speaker 3: you know, you know, sh that was explained fucking perfectly,
Speaker 3: Like nobody has ever explained it like that to me.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's it's it's just simple.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: You just got to put it in perspective.
Speaker 1: That's why you want to have somebody around you, like
Speaker 1: like snake around you, to give you a different perspective
Speaker 1: of things. You know, and sometimes, like you say, you'd
Speaker 1: be like dam I ain't look at it that way.
Speaker 1: And it's just really.
Speaker 4: Simple right now, in this industry, what do you think
Speaker 4: is selling the most.
Speaker 1: Worldly music musically that people like afrobeats and things like that,
Speaker 1: things that people can feel. I mean, if you go
Speaker 1: if you go by the internet, you ain't gonna never
Speaker 1: get it because the Internet looked like it's just like that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, that's like micro waves stuff.
Speaker 1: But if you really pay attention to people, pay attention
Speaker 1: to what's going on out around you, you know, you'll
Speaker 1: see what's going on and it's worldly. And that's never stopped.
Speaker 1: It's always been music that everybody can feel, you know.
Speaker 1: But you still need the regular music too, You still
Speaker 1: need to street me, you still need to talk shit
Speaker 1: music all of that shit works and it works in itself.
Speaker 1: But for what's selling and really it's gonna stick forever,
Speaker 1: it's stuff that people could feel and stuff that people
Speaker 1: can uplifting and vibe to. That's why Pretty Girl Walk
Speaker 1: work because it uplifted women and.
Speaker 3: Crazy part is that was my first crossover record and
Speaker 3: I did not know what to expect of the record.
Speaker 1: Usually it always works as usually what I told you
Speaker 1: at the beginning, it's like the thing that you don't
Speaker 1: it be people around you. Like like like I said,
Speaker 1: people people around me, they push me to do certain
Speaker 1: ship thould be the ships that that works the most.
Speaker 4: If you can give me any type of advice, so
Speaker 4: so I don't go through anything, what would it be.
Speaker 2: I don't like giving advice to it.
Speaker 1: I have to understand you to give you advice, So
Speaker 1: I have to know you a little more because like
Speaker 1: I'll be giving you just blad advice. But the most
Speaker 1: advice I give everybody don't listen to nobody, pay attention
Speaker 1: to everything. That's what I That's the advice I give
Speaker 1: everybody because if I listen to the people, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be where I will.
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 1: I am now, But I paid attention. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I pay attention to everything because you can
Speaker 1: learn from from other people. You just got to pay
Speaker 1: attention and understand pay attention. You know you have good
Speaker 1: people around.
Speaker 3: One more thing, if you could tell your younger self
Speaker 3: some that that really fucked you up in life, what
Speaker 3: would it be? So you so so your younger self,
Speaker 3: do not go through it right now.
Speaker 1: It's gonna sound cocky, but I say, you know what,
Speaker 1: you talk to my youngest self.
Speaker 2: Because I everything.
Speaker 1: Like people think you get older, you get wiser, but
Speaker 1: you kind of got to have it early only because
Speaker 1: there's like a lot of stuff that I know now
Speaker 1: to be like, oh yeah, because you og but what
Speaker 1: I am now? I programmed myself like this twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: You got to program yourself, like everything you're doing. If
Speaker 1: you you got to make yourself intentionally, make yourself be
Speaker 1: a good person, or make yourself do certain shit in
Speaker 1: order to get there, because otherwise you never gonna get
Speaker 1: there if you don't intentionally and like if say things,
Speaker 1: I want to do this, I want.
Speaker 2: To be this type of person.
Speaker 1: You got to intentionally keep doing it every day every day,
Speaker 1: and the next thing, you know, you that person. So
Speaker 1: that's that's why I would tell a younger person. But me,
Speaker 1: I was already doing it. So but I was instilled
Speaker 1: by older people. I always had older, older people taught me.
Speaker 1: I was my first friends was old people.
Speaker 3: Will my my friends now is older people. Everybody older
Speaker 3: than me as.
Speaker 2: That's a good age.
Speaker 1: Man, But you don't even know man, twenty five, that's
Speaker 1: a long time.
Speaker 2: Ago for me.
Speaker 1: How old are you for the six I'm cool with that.
Speaker 1: I take it like when I say, oh, I say
Speaker 1: there's a cool thing. I like being old because I
Speaker 1: don't want to be that young. To me, being young
Speaker 1: sound lame as fucked. I'm talking about being a young nigga.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be like them niggas. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, I don't want to be like
Speaker 1: I like being bro. I let nigga know I'm old.
Speaker 1: I ain't none like y'all niggas. I want you to
Speaker 1: separate me from all you young niggas.
Speaker 3: What is what is something that these young niggas is
Speaker 3: doing now that you have never life fucking done?
Speaker 2: Get my booty hole lick what.
Speaker 4: Type you don't like? Bitches in your ass?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, I don't even like getting my nipples licked. I'm
Speaker 1: not that nigga.
Speaker 4: From nipples.
Speaker 1: Wait, because girl, I know girls be cool with licking
Speaker 1: nipples and ship. I ain't into that. If I get
Speaker 1: my liquor, nigga not letting them bitch lick my boodhole.
Speaker 1: I don't want white, do you. I got to hear
Speaker 1: my bully. You got to be a nasty bitch to
Speaker 1: lick my boodhole like I got to hear booty, so
Speaker 1: I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't kiss a bitch after she looked bad.
Speaker 3: Dollar, Yo, I mean we just vibe talking, Yo. How
Speaker 3: the hell do you functional? Weed?
Speaker 4: That's you know.
Speaker 1: I just started smoking weed like about five years ago, forties.
Speaker 1: She she knew me before I smoked weed.
Speaker 2: I just thought I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't function only like back in the day, I
Speaker 3: did smoke, like like way way back when.
Speaker 2: Like what's your choice? What's your vice?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: Donald?
Speaker 1: Yo?
Speaker 4: And a rebel.
Speaker 2: You can drink like a mother, drink a.
Speaker 4: Bitch down like I can't.
Speaker 3: But you know you can't out drink women absolutely cannot.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, hold on, but if we drinking some
Speaker 3: foot a lot of their liquor.
Speaker 2: Because what's for a lot of their liquor.
Speaker 3: I don't know whatever they had in them Patron bottles
Speaker 3: that they gave me when I say, heard me out, Matron.
Speaker 3: Any day I can't drink what y'all like, y'all, I'll
Speaker 3: be up. But I don't know what they had in
Speaker 3: their idemn or die when I lived there.
Speaker 1: Be careful, somebody run. That's checking that the liquor sneak
Speaker 1: checking their liquor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matron is real.
Speaker 4: But it was a fun time though it was. It
Speaker 4: was a fun. But I'm gonna let you know this now,
Speaker 4: I'm bringing my own liking.
Speaker 1: Next sound they ditch everywhere. I want to share my story,
Speaker 1: my truth.
Speaker 4: Hey when I say, I'm just bring my own liking
Speaker 4: next time.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this, what's your end game?
Speaker 4: My end game in life, not in the just in life.
Speaker 4: My end game is.
Speaker 3: To be so rich that I create generation in the
Speaker 3: wealth to where my keys, my keys beyond money, beyond
Speaker 3: beyond money.
Speaker 1: Because that's this is what this is what Remember I
Speaker 1: told you at the beginning. People come to me because
Speaker 1: after they get the money, because like I said, money,
Speaker 1: it sounds like it's hard to get.
Speaker 2: But this After you get.
Speaker 1: The money, that's when it's hard to be happy because
Speaker 1: now you got to think your whole life. Like you said,
Speaker 1: I want money. I want money. I gotta get this
Speaker 1: money so I can take care of all that. Once
Speaker 1: you do all that, it's like, all right, now what
Speaker 1: so what's after that? What you what? What can you
Speaker 1: do to be happy with? Making vet happy? I don't
Speaker 1: know your real name, but making that person happy. I'm Diamond,
Speaker 1: Make Diamond happy.
Speaker 3: I think I would like to have a great relationship
Speaker 3: with my therapies. Whoever it is, all right because because.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to be up there,
Speaker 2: because it's not you'll come.
Speaker 4: To me every day it is you already listen.
Speaker 2: What's your sign?
Speaker 4: Libra? Welcome to death, bro.
Speaker 2: I don't know labors too much.
Speaker 4: Come on, come on, icked o.
Speaker 2: Fun fact leavers are to have the most billionaires.
Speaker 4: She looks so see.
Speaker 1: But that's why I told you don't worry about the money,
Speaker 1: because you're gonna get money. So now what you gotta
Speaker 1: program yourself for?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: What after the money, how I'm gonna make I'm gonna
Speaker 2: make Diamond happy.
Speaker 4: Diamond is Doamon is going? So wake up every day
Speaker 4: you want kids.
Speaker 2: So you don't, and it's no problem if you don't.
Speaker 3: I want Actually, so Diamond's gonna wake up every day
Speaker 3: with her ten kids, start with her four dogs, playing
Speaker 3: on starting. Oh yeah, four dogs. She's gonna have a form.
Speaker 3: She's gonna grow her own fruit vegetables.
Speaker 2: Are you doing that now?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, see what I told you about programming. You gotta
Speaker 1: start programming away.
Speaker 4: I just signed the thirteen month least. I don't know
Speaker 4: after that then I want to start programming because they
Speaker 4: hold on.
Speaker 1: Now, just playing a tree at the house in the
Speaker 1: in your in your in your place, playing it like
Speaker 1: a little just it don't have to be a fruit.
Speaker 1: Just play on a simple tree and watch that girl,
Speaker 1: and that might get you into it.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You gotta program yourself to do.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that's what's gonna bring you peace, because
Speaker 1: when you go, if you plan on getting peace when
Speaker 1: the industry, you're gonna always be frustrated. I'm telling And
Speaker 1: we think about twenty twenty when everybody was going crazy
Speaker 1: because they ain't had nothing to do. Because you know
Speaker 1: I again, yeah, that's when you had shit to do.
Speaker 1: They didn't had nothing to do because they was I
Speaker 1: ain't talking. I'm talking about as far as working shit is,
Speaker 1: the industing, the music industry, the act the movie industry.
Speaker 2: It wasn't nothing to do because they they love us
Speaker 2: all in what they do. I was chilling.
Speaker 1: I had the time because I already programmed myself to
Speaker 1: know how to live without the cheers. Damn yeah, you
Speaker 1: gotta learn how to live without the chair or just think.
Speaker 1: You know how, sometimes on social media you post something
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a lot of likes and donna get nothing.
Speaker 1: You know how, that feeling, just madine, that's gonna be
Speaker 1: your feeling for the rest of your life. You gotta
Speaker 1: know how to stomach that and be happy that you
Speaker 1: don't get that in real life. So that's why I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, program yourself now to say it don't have
Speaker 1: to be nothing big, it.
Speaker 4: Makes you happy.
Speaker 1: Simple ship like what I can do legos right now
Speaker 1: and be happier than the motherfucker.
Speaker 2: I do that right now.
Speaker 1: I could do simple ship like I live on the
Speaker 1: I live in a place where if I don't need
Speaker 1: it there, I don't need it, like I could find
Speaker 1: happiness with I live in the Islands, and the Bahamas,
Speaker 1: and I could just chill right there and be at
Speaker 1: peace and be happy with doing nothing.
Speaker 4: You're not scared to live on island like a hurricane comes, Yeah, hell, get.
Speaker 2: The hell on.
Speaker 1: We were just talking about that, Me and my friend
Speaker 1: were just talking about that. But ain't this hurricane season? Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I got a plane so I can get the
Speaker 1: hell on always.
Speaker 4: So you got a plan that it's just ready to
Speaker 4: go when you Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I got my own.
Speaker 1: And see that goes back to I programmed and I
Speaker 1: plant seeds a while ago, to where when it gets
Speaker 1: to the point I can just say, why did.
Speaker 4: You learn how to how to program yourself?
Speaker 1: Paying attention to whirl and life and like the next step,
Speaker 1: always standing ahead of the curve, like what's next.
Speaker 2: I don't. I'm not into the now. I'm into what's next.
Speaker 1: You gotta think everything we see now, somebody plant that
Speaker 1: shit twenty years ago. Somebody that was thinking about twenty
Speaker 1: years ago. So yeah, whatever, eat like the Simpsons, But
Speaker 1: it's look around at your neighbor That's why I say
Speaker 1: don't paytients that even in your neighborhood, you see them
Speaker 1: buildings going up, all them building like you see somebody
Speaker 1: might be building something that I don't know where you
Speaker 1: live at, but you see a building they plant that
Speaker 1: shit twenty years ago? Are they planned ten years ago?
Speaker 1: And there's up? So why you just why while the
Speaker 1: average person sitting there worried about current events and shit,
Speaker 1: they just what twenty twenty happened? Them? Motherfuckers building? Like
Speaker 1: mother they knew something because they plant that shit. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they planned that, but they plant building
Speaker 1: shit around whatever was going on because they knew. So
Speaker 1: you got to be ahead of the curve on anything
Speaker 1: you do.
Speaker 4: That's a word. Now I'm thinking, but you.
Speaker 1: See you you're thinking there's a billionaire because you're a
Speaker 1: liber Yes, that billionaire thinking. I want you to go
Speaker 1: past that. I want you to be at peace and happiness.
Speaker 1: That's what you asked me. How I find pieces because
Speaker 1: I don't look for peace into worldly things or into
Speaker 1: my career.
Speaker 2: You know, I find peace into.
Speaker 4: But how did you separate that though? Because it's so hard.
Speaker 1: To I just told you every day planning seas and
Speaker 1: it's a simple process. But it's just like you gotta
Speaker 1: get in the programming of doing this. It's like, all right, today,
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do today, what can bring me happiness
Speaker 1: outside of this or outside of that? And that's what
Speaker 1: I do. I am a therapist. What's your sign?
Speaker 4: I need to know you have enough people inside you?
Speaker 4: You got enough people inside of you. That's all I
Speaker 4: needed to know, Like you ain't on you right.
Speaker 1: Hey, And I have people around me that balanced me
Speaker 1: out too, though, Like I can call people, I can
Speaker 1: call friends and be like, hey, boom boom, boom bom.
Speaker 1: We just iron shop be iron you know, So you
Speaker 1: just talked to them. They taught me back, or they
Speaker 1: healed me back with with some words, they get me
Speaker 1: right There're like boom, that's all what I need.
Speaker 3: Have you ever got into a relationship that that made
Speaker 3: you look at the world differently, Like, look at your
Speaker 3: career differently, look at doing things differently, Like I've.
Speaker 1: Always been a relationship type person. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: I've always I never put thought in relationship, but I've
Speaker 1: always I've always been a relationship guy. So I don't
Speaker 1: know how to answer that question because it's always been
Speaker 1: in me to do relationship ship, but it's never stopped
Speaker 1: my my my career. But people that's been in my
Speaker 1: in my life. They always knew this was me because
Speaker 1: I've done this since I've been a jit. I've been
Speaker 1: entertaining them in popular since I was about a kid,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: So it's always grew more and more and more.
Speaker 1: I might've been just the nigga in the neighborhood that's popular,
Speaker 1: and I went to nigga and all the school's popular,
Speaker 1: when the nigga in Jacksonville popular, when the niggas in
Speaker 1: the South and TV at all. So it's always grown.
Speaker 1: So if you was around me, you kind of knew
Speaker 1: what it was. And that's what's gonna happen to you
Speaker 1: over time. It's just just new. Over time, they gonna know,
Speaker 1: all right, she you ain't gotta tell a person you're
Speaker 1: a rapper because they know you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So if they come in your life, they they kind
Speaker 1: of gonna know what the situation is. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: I said, when the motherfucker if a girl giving me
Speaker 1: a know that I don't like girls that like pussies.
Speaker 1: So if you don't, if a girl don't eat pussy,
Speaker 1: she can't get with me. So they know this already.
Speaker 1: So if you get with me, like I've had a
Speaker 1: relationship where it got with me for that and then
Speaker 1: when they get with you, they find out it's just
Speaker 1: doing it just to be with me. She ain't really
Speaker 1: gay for real, you know, And that's when it don't work.
Speaker 4: Would you ever change yourself to make the next person
Speaker 4: happy that.
Speaker 1: You're with I can't cause I'm an old nigga, and
Speaker 1: old nigga not just me, but me me, and once
Speaker 1: we get older, we kind of programming stuck in our ways,
Speaker 1: and I'm stuck and I'm a Gemini.
Speaker 4: So that makes all you got to say.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I got to learn the hard way, especially when I'm
Speaker 1: I'm everything I've been doing and working. So if it's
Speaker 1: been working, ain't too much you can tell me, and
Speaker 1: everything I've been doing in my career and life been working.
Speaker 1: So you can't tell me unless it's somebody like her,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Other than that, you can't
Speaker 1: really tell me.
Speaker 3: And that's why we locked in now because you over
Speaker 3: here study saying that she is a good person is
Speaker 3: going to be a great.
Speaker 1: Producing the show like she she's the person that's been
Speaker 1: She's the person that's my balance, especially when I'm going
Speaker 1: through my healing ship for the accident.
Speaker 2: She was right there, so and I don't be needing much,
Speaker 2: but the little ship go a long way.
Speaker 4: Have you ever operator out of here?
Speaker 1: I'm arrogant, programmed arrogant because I've always been who I am.
Speaker 1: So I've always even before, I was more cocky as
Speaker 1: a kid because I didn't know, because I always thought
Speaker 1: this shit work whatever I'm doing. So I never had
Speaker 1: no I never had no insecurities or nothing because it's
Speaker 1: always worked to me. And even I didn't know how
Speaker 1: little I was until I got older. So in my mind,
Speaker 1: I was just the ship, you know. But when I
Speaker 1: look older, I'm like I was a kid. They was
Speaker 1: looking at me as a kid while you asked that
Speaker 1: uh shit.
Speaker 3: Because sometimes I feel like for what could control you?
Speaker 4: You know, like yeah, like you would like think like.
Speaker 2: What's on the other side of it, what's gonna happen.
Speaker 4: You might get canceled, you might lose.
Speaker 2: All right, I take it back.
Speaker 1: The only time I the only time I feel butterflies
Speaker 1: are nervous is on the state when I right before
Speaker 1: I go on stage.
Speaker 2: That's the only time because I want to work.
Speaker 1: I mean I wanted to work it's like, I really
Speaker 1: don't like letting my fan and I know they like live.
Speaker 1: That's now, that's that might be when it comes to entertainment,
Speaker 1: and the only reason I like entertainment, the only reason
Speaker 1: I use entertainments like, I love the people, so I
Speaker 1: don't like to let them down. And I've been You
Speaker 1: got to think I've grown with people so long, like
Speaker 1: before you. I've had fans since before you was born,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like I don't
Speaker 1: like to live up. I like to I like to
Speaker 1: live up to their expectations. So every time I get
Speaker 1: on stage, I don't want them to go home, even
Speaker 1: if it's one person. You know that one person in
Speaker 1: your comment say, I don't like that shit.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. They really don't matter.
Speaker 1: But to me, I want everybody, do you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So I still get butterfly.
Speaker 1: But that makes me even better though, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, So I understand that shit. I just realized
Speaker 1: that was anxiety, you know, I just realized what do
Speaker 1: you call it? The butterflies? I didn't know that was
Speaker 1: anxiety because I never programmed myself to understand why anxiety.
Speaker 1: I'm glad I didn't, because then you start leaning on
Speaker 1: that or that saying anxiety.
Speaker 3: Something about labors is we overthink everything and and we
Speaker 3: gotta go read, we gotta go learn.
Speaker 2: So that's dictating your career.
Speaker 3: As because once I learned something, then I'll be scared
Speaker 3: to do it because it's like, damn, what if this
Speaker 3: happened Like I would, I would think of everything.
Speaker 1: You got to have somebody that you really can trust
Speaker 1: and talk to and ask them to bounce off. You
Speaker 1: don't have to listen to them just to get their
Speaker 1: reaction from it, because like I had, like even like
Speaker 1: my friend Clay, a lot of times the ship he's
Speaker 1: advice he told me was wrong.
Speaker 2: I had to listen to him. I had to call
Speaker 2: him because like.
Speaker 4: Ye talk so much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh you know Clay.
Speaker 4: So you know my man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, recipes my man. But this is my niggas. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, a lot of stuff. I had
Speaker 1: to understand. He's just og, but he always had his
Speaker 1: best interest for me. But sometimes when you when it's
Speaker 1: just like me, like I said, sometimes you don't want
Speaker 1: like I'm an o G, but you don't want to
Speaker 1: listen sometime because something I don't know you know what
Speaker 1: I'm sayingcause you're right there, Like, nah, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: do this ship if I post that one time, this
Speaker 1: one story sick if I would have posted that ship,
Speaker 1: I tell you, I tell y'all after this ship. But
Speaker 1: it was the dumbest ship that they could say, post this.
Speaker 4: I ain't give a fuck. I ain't give a fun I.
Speaker 2: Want to tell this story, don't tell it.
Speaker 4: Don't well, I ain't.
Speaker 2: Gonna hold you up.
Speaker 1: You know, I appreciate you come hollering at you own
Speaker 1: you know is that? But but before you go, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you one more chance to ask me one
Speaker 1: last question.
Speaker 2: Is the one thing you want to ask on?
Speaker 3: Let you boy know hm hmm being a start that men,
Speaker 3: you lost somebody close to us, like I lost age
Speaker 3: and you lost Like if you can tell one thing,
Speaker 3: what would it be?
Speaker 1: I told him everything. I tell everybody. Don't take people
Speaker 1: you love for granted, because they gonna go? Are you
Speaker 1: gonna go? So that's why when they go, Because like
Speaker 1: that shit happened like boom, like the day I got
Speaker 1: off my cane, the day after I got off my cane,
Speaker 1: the day, the day after the child.
Speaker 2: Support case was over, he died. Well, he went to
Speaker 2: had the stroke.
Speaker 1: So it but before that we were saying that love
Speaker 1: he talking ship to each other. The day before that,
Speaker 1: he was at my house, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So he was at my house and he wouldn't leave,
Speaker 1: and he kept saying he wanted some money and ship
Speaker 1: because I owe him some money for the other girl.
Speaker 1: He came to get his money and he was like,
Speaker 1: I didn't even know what if I died him up.
Speaker 2: I was like, well, it won't matter. And the nigga died,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: But that's how we talked shipped each other all the time.
Speaker 1: So that's what it was. So like that's why I say,
Speaker 1: don't take him for granted and do everything so when
Speaker 1: it happens, you won't be like damn in your head.
Speaker 1: And another thing too, that happened to me. When it
Speaker 1: did happen, God did give me a chance enough to
Speaker 1: go to the hospital and talk to him, to talk
Speaker 1: to him and say what I wanted to say. So
Speaker 1: I'm kind of shit cool with it, you know. So
Speaker 1: what would you say to your people?
Speaker 2: M hm? Well, if you could say one more thing, totain.
Speaker 4: You, y'a.
Speaker 3: I'd be like, uh, me and her actually used to
Speaker 3: talk to each other crazy to like crazy and Ship,
Speaker 3: I'd be like, damn, like what fuck? Like you ain't
Speaker 3: even tell me that you was gonna check out the
Speaker 3: visit you know. Uh, I tell like damn, like, I'm
Speaker 3: straight living his life to be playing out because we
Speaker 3: we we knew that we was gonna be rich. We
Speaker 3: didn't know how, but we knew, like you know, And
Speaker 3: I also say, like Ship one day, somebody gonnahoo buy
Speaker 3: ass because we did.
Speaker 1: Y'all did y'all have that relationship with So? Was you
Speaker 1: fulfilled with your relationship at the time?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And but but I was also mad because I'm like, damn, like,
Speaker 3: this was the only person I had and she gone
Speaker 3: with the fuck. So I was mad at it, but
Speaker 3: it was it was still like we.
Speaker 1: Gotta learn that you gotta learn in life. You can't
Speaker 1: have attachments to nothing in life, even if it's your kids.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like you got to understand
Speaker 1: how to live with it because it's people that died
Speaker 1: kids died before them and they feel happy.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You got people that's ninety years old still able to happy.
Speaker 1: So if they can be happy in life, why can't I.
Speaker 1: They've been seeing way more people die more than me,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that's how I look
Speaker 1: at shit, I look at older, older people. I'm like,
Speaker 1: damn are older people that's even like in the industry,
Speaker 1: it's people been rich longer than me, double the time
Speaker 1: I've been rich, and they still able to be happy
Speaker 1: at eighty years old, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: if they can do it, I can do It's people
Speaker 1: that had like I remember when, like when Clay died first,
Speaker 1: I'm not one of the first people. One of the
Speaker 1: people that called me was Bumbe from UGK. He had
Speaker 1: pimpsy died. He got through it, and I knew he
Speaker 1: understood where I was coming from, so he understood. So
Speaker 1: it's like, if you see other people do it, that's
Speaker 1: why I say, you can learn from other people. So
Speaker 1: when you see them do it, shit, it's just your turn,
Speaker 1: you know. And it ain't gonna be the first person,
Speaker 1: especially at twenty five. They're definitely going to be the
Speaker 1: first person that's gonna die to you.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Wait, till the's and sometimes it be death that you
Speaker 1: don't even think gonna hit you hit you, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So it's just life. You can't It's just we don't
Speaker 2: as humans.
Speaker 1: We cocky, but death reminds us that we're just human, absolutely,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you just gotta live.
Speaker 1: You gotta live shit, live your best life and live
Speaker 1: live life and don't take nobody you love for granted
Speaker 1: and treat them like like you know they gonna die
Speaker 1: because they are type shit.
Speaker 2: They always call them if you need some advice. Not
Speaker 2: all the time because you sound like you.
Speaker 3: A call all the time, but you and Dalli and
Speaker 3: Snag is gonna get tired of me at this point.
Speaker 3: All Right, I'm it's all right because you're gonna be millionaires.
Speaker 3: I'll be like, look, talk on our boat a trip, right.
Speaker 3: You gotta go on the trip now, because I know
Speaker 3: that I put this weight on you. I'm sorry, but
Speaker 3: I'm but I'm happy again. You know the balance is
Speaker 3: back balance, you know.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
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