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Speaker 1: This One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we be on a Wednesday, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you. One Bill's Live is your show.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for making us a part of your afternoon. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: the beat goes on, and I think what's going to

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Speaker 2: be interesting is tomorrow the coordinators, the new coordinators for

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills, will be speaking to the media and

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Speaker 2: we will have their comments for you here on the

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Speaker 2: show tomorrow, and we look forward to what they have

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Speaker 2: to say. And more importantly, I think what Jim Leonard

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Speaker 2: has to say will be of greatest interest, knowing that

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Speaker 2: the defense is probably going to be the side of

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Speaker 2: the ball that undergoes the most change from what it's

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Speaker 2: been the last nine years, so his words will be

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Speaker 2: dissected and cross sectioned and everything else.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna have a Yeah, we have a long

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Speaker 1: conversation about that today and yeah, it's gonna be our

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Speaker 1: freak because we know how it is. I mean, think

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Speaker 1: about over the last few years, you hear from these

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Speaker 1: guys once the football starts being played, me, you want

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Speaker 1: to hear from these guys all the time. This will

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Speaker 1: be our first chance ever to get a chance to

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Speaker 1: talk to Jim Leonard and the new new coaching staff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun to listen to him. We've been talking,

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Speaker 1: Brownie and I have been talking off air and on

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Speaker 1: air about how much is going to change on the

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Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, and it seems at first

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Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting to find out. Start finding

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Speaker 1: that out from Jim Leonard himself.

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Speaker 2: So they'll be addressing the media starting late tomorrow morning,

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Speaker 2: and you know, we'll have all that turned around for

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Speaker 2: you for the show tomorrow afternoon, and obviously some of

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Speaker 2: their most poigned comments will pass along to you tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: And it also deals with our topic of discussion today,

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Speaker 2: which we'll get to in short order. But first some

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Speaker 2: Bills notes, And speaking of that Bill's coaching staff, there

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Speaker 2: is another addition to the staff. According to multiple reports,

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Speaker 2: the Bills are hiring Tennessee quarterbacks coach bo Hartigree as

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Speaker 2: their new quarterbacks coach. So he obviously worked with cam

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Speaker 2: Ward in his rookie season with.

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Speaker 4: The tight this past year.

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Speaker 2: Heart Agree is entering his thirteenth season as an assistant

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Speaker 2: coach in the NFL. Bounced around been with a bunch

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Speaker 2: of different teams. This obviously also serves as indication that

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Speaker 2: previous quarterbacks coach Ronald Curry is not going to be

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Speaker 2: back with the Bills. He's been interviewing for a bunch

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Speaker 2: of offensive coordinator jobs around the league. I think he

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Speaker 2: recently took a quarterback coaching job. Did I see that right?

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Speaker 2: I want to say he got hired somewhere, but I

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Speaker 2: can't remember for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm not gonna try and remember it. I've been

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Speaker 1: reading so much about all this stuff. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to get it confused. Bo Hart agree the new coach

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Speaker 1: who's apparently apparently gonna be the quarterbacks coach here. He

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Speaker 1: was with the Raiders for a hot minute under Josh McDaniel,

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Speaker 1: who was head coach of the Raiders for a minute.

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Speaker 1: You remember he got fired and heart degree took over

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Speaker 1: So that'll Yeah, that's a good hire. Thirteen years as

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Speaker 2: So that's another position coach to check off the list,

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Speaker 2: and we obviously got several more. We'll see who's ultimately

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Speaker 2: retained from the twenty twenty five staff. I would tend

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Speaker 4: And stay's put.

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Speaker 2: Let's go around the NFL presented by Kalida Healthy, Official

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Speaker 2: healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills and the New York

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Speaker 2: Jets have landed an offensive coordinator, and it's former Stanford

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Speaker 2: head coach Frank Reich. Reich is actually a former teammate

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Speaker 4: In nineteen ninety six.

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Speaker 2: So thirty years later, they're coaching together for the same

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Speaker 1: Frank's back in it not for nothing. On a personal note,

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Speaker 1: so I usually don't take my time off in the

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Speaker 1: some we get vacation time and stuff. I usually don't

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Speaker 4: Frank was supposed to play.

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Speaker 1: His career is getting in the way of my golf weekend.

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Speaker 4: What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing, Frank?

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Speaker 4: We got golf to play.

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Speaker 1: You see there on we're watching him. He's with Chris

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Speaker 1: I haven't talked to him, But good for him if

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Speaker 1: if he's happy about us, am I. But it doesn't

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Speaker 4: Well he's that outing, yeah, at least that outing, but

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Speaker 1: Got bigger fish to fry, yeah, and going to try

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Speaker 1: You've been reading some stuff this morning about what's going

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Speaker 5: Right going forward, which and there are reports, get it,

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Speaker 5: there are reports down there in New York that Darren Mougie,

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Speaker 5: job right now as GM and the Jets because the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't really go. I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: smart to go talk to people about your boss where

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Speaker 4: Hear, that's gonna get around.

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Speaker 1: It's a mess.

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Speaker 4: What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: That is an absolute mess. You can't do that because

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Speaker 1: that's sabotage. As the head coach too, It's not just you, bro.

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Speaker 2: As we know, the Jets are masters of self sabotage

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Speaker 2: and they might be doing it all over again.

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Speaker 1: What are they doing anyway? There you go, Frank, writes,

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Speaker 2: The best thing they got going for him, right for him?

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Speaker 2: I know, we got a quarterback situation to figure out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot to figure out over there, but

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Speaker 2: Dawn Aponte, the NFL's chief administrator, of Football Operations is

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Speaker 2: A Ponte has been in her current league role since

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Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, but she has worked for NFL clubs prior

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Speaker 2: Now back with the club, she'll be with the Giants

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Speaker 2: going forward here. Despite a renewed push from NFL ownership

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Speaker 2: leadership made it clear Tuesday at the Super Bowl that

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Speaker 2: the players aren't in support of an expanded regular season schedule.

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Speaker 2: Here's a direct quote from the NFLPA interim executive director

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Speaker 2: season eighteenth game. The eighteenth game is not casual for us.

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Speaker 4: It's a very serious issue.

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Speaker 2: It's something that comes out of negotiations, and nothing will

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Speaker 2: move forward until players have the opportunity to account for

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Speaker 2: all of those factors, take that into consideration, and then

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Speaker 2: through negotiations, agree or not to the eighteenth game. But

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Speaker 2: as it stands right now, players have been very clear

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Speaker 4: End quote.

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Speaker 1: Would you like me to translate that for you?

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Speaker 1: What's in it for us? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Because they know it's coming, they can't completely stop it,

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Speaker 1: What is it in exchange for it? And there's a

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Speaker 1: And obvious these answers money, money, money, money, money, not exactly.

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Speaker 1: The salary cap is what you could certainly grab a

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Speaker 1: fifty nine fifty one something like that. You go straight

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Speaker 1: to fifty to fifty if you wanted to. That would

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Speaker 1: be huge for the players and for the teams. Give

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Speaker 2: I think the other thing that the players Association would

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Speaker 2: push for the rosters, a larger rosters, because that means

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Speaker 1: Bigger union. Yeah, that would be my next thing. You'd

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Speaker 1: need more money. But here's the thing, you don't just

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Speaker 1: the players are going to leverage this as much as

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Speaker 1: they can. Now, if you're the ownership group, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what goes on inside those smoke filled rooms, you know,

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Speaker 1: where they're discussing this. But the eighteenth game, they can

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Speaker 1: take it if they want it. They can they can

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Speaker 1: just implement it. That's already been proven in a core

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Speaker 1: of law. It's their game. They can decide how many

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Speaker 1: some other concessions besides the eighteenth game and say all right,

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Speaker 1: we'll give you the extra percentage of the rev gross

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Speaker 1: revenues and the roster thing, but we also want what

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Speaker 1: you name it. We want more time in the off season.

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Speaker 1: You got to show up in the off season. You

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Speaker 1: got to give us two weeks of practice in the

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Speaker 1: off season. You got to do the whole thing. It

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Speaker 1: could be anything. It could be anything.

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Speaker 2: Or we want three bye weeks.

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Speaker 1: The owners you mean or the players. Yeah, they'll give

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Speaker 1: This will be I mean, it's a great illustration of

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Speaker 1: Right. It's and now Brandon and I were talking about

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the phones to see what your thoughts

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Speaker 4: What's up? Tom?

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Speaker 6: Happy boy of New Year?

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Speaker 4: By the way, Okay, okay, frary.

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Speaker 6: Sorry about that, but Anyways, I really wanted Jim Schwartz.

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Speaker 6: and let's hope it works.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's Leonard's reputation, and uh, he's that's the

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Speaker 4: So that's a staring contest.

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Speaker 2: Dawkins from Pro Bowl Central. We'll be checking in with him,

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Speaker 2: see how the last few days have gone and what's

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Speaker 2: some thoughts from him on the Super Bowl when we

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Speaker 2: return here. On one, Bill's Live, presented by a lot

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Speaker 2: of health.

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Speaker 4: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 2: Okay, back here on one Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve

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Speaker 2: Tasker with you.

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Speaker 4: What do you hope to hear from Bill's defensive coordinator

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Speaker 4: Jim Leonard his press conference tomorrow?

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Speaker 2: They're waiting, excuse me to make contact with Dion Dawkins

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Speaker 2: out at the Pro Bowl, So as soon as we

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Speaker 2: get him on we will talk to him. But in

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Speaker 2: the meantime, we talked to you at eight oh three,

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Speaker 2: five fifty one, eight five fifty two, five fifty to

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Speaker 2: Gary on a sale.

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Speaker 4: Next, what's up Gary?

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Speaker 1: Gary? Are you there? All right?

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Speaker 2: Put Gary on hold and we'll go to Kenny in Indiana. Next,

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Speaker 2: what's up Kenny?

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Speaker 8: Hi, guys, thanks for taking the call today. You know

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Speaker 8: about Jim Leonard. I'm very excited about the hire. I

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Speaker 8: have been. He's been on my radar for a while,

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Speaker 8: and I think I want pretty much. I think it's

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Speaker 8: going to be a broken record. People are going to

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Speaker 8: expect him to come in and want him to come

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Speaker 8: in and say that the Bills are going to have

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Speaker 8: an attacking defense that dictates the tempo of a game

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Speaker 8: from the opening kickoff and not have to wait until

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Speaker 8: halftime before we know what's going on. I think all

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Speaker 8: Bills fans were sick and tired of the halftime adjustments

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Speaker 8: that led to good defense in the second half. That

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Speaker 8: that got a little old for me. And that's I

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Speaker 8: think the as an indictment on Bobby Babbage. I think

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Speaker 8: Babbage was in over his head from the word go.

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Speaker 8: McDermott protected him and cobbled him. He never threw him

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Speaker 8: under the bus. He took play calling duties from him

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Speaker 8: multiple times, and that kind of wore's thin with me,

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Speaker 8: the McDermott's devotion to Bobby Babbage, and I just I'm

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Speaker 8: ready to put that in the rearview mirror and hoping

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Speaker 8: that Leonard comes down and says, look, we're gonna we're

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Speaker 8: going to attack. We're going to dictate how it goes.

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Speaker 8: And I know it's going to take a while to

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Speaker 8: get the personnel right, but I'm willing to wait as

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Speaker 8: long as we're attacking for sixty minutes. And that's all

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Speaker 8: I got to say. Thanks a lot, go Bill, thank you.

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Speaker 1: N Yeah, I yeah, that's that's a good call. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we as you're doing these games and watching them and

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Speaker 1: watching them and the Bills were winning games. Let's face it,

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Speaker 1: I mean, so there's there's not all that much to

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Speaker 1: complain about, but it was it was you get to

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Speaker 1: halftimes like, man, I hope, you know, hope the defense

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Speaker 1: gets it together here and did I mean that was

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Speaker 1: their at modus operandi right the second half of these games,

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Speaker 1: the Bills came out and they were you couldn't move

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Speaker 1: the ball on them. So it's frustrating for fans thinking about, well,

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Speaker 1: what's you know, what's going on in these first the

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Speaker 1: first half of these games. Let's get this fixed? And

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, that's a that's a fair point, no question

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Speaker 1: about it. Let's, you know, why not start at the

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Speaker 1: beginning of the games. Maybe Jim Leonard will be able

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Speaker 1: to do that. Uh, certainly. I think all of us

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Speaker 1: have watched enough press conferences to know that you want

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Speaker 1: the guy to command the room, right. You want them

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Speaker 1: to have a plan and be confident and say, listen,

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Speaker 1: here's how we're going to do it. I've seen some stuff,

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Speaker 1: you know, and refer to the players he already has.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps I don't know, but yes, you you want the

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Speaker 1: guy to kill this press conference.

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Speaker 2: And Kenny believed there was some hand holding between Sean

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Speaker 2: McDermott and Bobby Babbage. Whether there was or there wasn't

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Speaker 2: really doesn't matter now because I think you can confidently

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Speaker 2: say that's not even in the car cards. Jim Leonard's

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Speaker 2: brought here to run the show on the defensive side

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Speaker 2: of the ball. Joe Brady's got enough to worry about

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Speaker 2: it as a first time head coach and call in

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Speaker 2: the offense. It is Jim Leonard's defense to run oversee, supervise,

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Speaker 2: and implement unequivocally. There's gonna be no hand holding here,

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Speaker 2: no taking play calling away at any point in time.

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Speaker 2: It is his show. So obviously that bothered Kenny. I

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Speaker 2: don't have to worry about that anymore.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting too how much. And I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he knew anything about the other side of the ball,

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Speaker 1: but Joe Brady had to be questioned in the process

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Speaker 1: of getting the job that, like, what about the defensive

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Speaker 1: side of the ball, what are you gonna do over there?

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Speaker 1: And he probably said I don't know what he said,

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Speaker 1: but if it was somebody like that, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: gotta say, I don't know, I'm gonna bring a guy

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Speaker 1: into to run that for me giving him him autonomy

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Speaker 1: and trust the guy. Right. I'm an offensive coordinator. I've

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Speaker 1: been an offensive coordinator. I know some of the stuff

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Speaker 1: about defenses. I know how to beat him. I know

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Speaker 1: where they're vulnerable, but I don't know what it is

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Speaker 1: to install that stuff, how you teach it. So you

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Speaker 1: would think a guy, particularly the first stop he's got,

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Speaker 1: he'll be very involved in the defensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 1: but he's gonna lean on the guy right on Leonard.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And so that's I think that's part of

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Speaker 1: the transition growing pains that you're going to go through

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Speaker 1: as a staff, and Leonard's gonna be the guy. I

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Speaker 1: think he got to lean on him.

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Speaker 4: If you're the head coach, let's go to Butcher on

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Speaker 4: the east side quickly.

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Speaker 9: What's up Butch, my brother, it's another beautiful mother man.

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Speaker 10: I love I love.

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Speaker 11: W g R.

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Speaker 10: He's all the fans listening. I love you too. I'm

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Speaker 10: gonna be right to it. From the three four defense

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Speaker 10: that Jim is run, we do have the person that

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Speaker 10: we had, like Sanders, who was a defensive vent that

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Speaker 10: played this year, that had experienced playing to move over there.

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Speaker 10: I believe Walker at sixty six and mobile can be

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Speaker 10: a defense either one three defense event two people of

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Speaker 10: two leaders of tackles and with a big nose. That's

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Speaker 10: what they need to look at in the draft. And

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Speaker 10: you can have Usho stand up. I think Salidly gonna

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Speaker 10: be an outstanding player on the outside. You put him

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Speaker 10: the outside linebacker and you still got to re be

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Speaker 10: mary and we got my guy forty two doing limbs

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Speaker 10: in the middle. And the second day is definitely sat

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Speaker 10: with a handcock and co.

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Speaker 1: And you got the corners wins.

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Speaker 10: And I really believe that we do have personalel already

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Speaker 10: on this team, and maybe he was played on the

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Speaker 10: position in Sean mcgerman's defense that really can be effective

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Speaker 10: on this three four. I'm really intrigued direct line style,

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Speaker 10: putting pressure on the quarterback, making them make players then turnovers,

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Speaker 10: and I really believe that it's not as big as

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Speaker 10: people think it inspired as the personnel. But thanks to

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Speaker 10: taking my call, I'm gonna say this. I think this

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Speaker 10: is the perfect year to have twenty of them free agents,

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Speaker 10: where now we can just take what we need, put

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Speaker 10: him on the team, then we let the rest go

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Speaker 10: and have catch space. So I'm just looking forward to

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Speaker 10: that you know what I mean. And also I just

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Speaker 10: want to say this, you know, with no disrespect to

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Speaker 10: all these forty years in the corner gr but I've

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Speaker 10: been a Bills fam for years. I'm glad we're going

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Speaker 10: across the street into the new regime. I'm happy to

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Speaker 10: be Steve. You have to view Chris. I'm going forward

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Speaker 10: with everything else on what we're about to do since

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Speaker 10: the information came out yesterday. And I thank you so

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Speaker 10: much for everything to professionalism and I love every body

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Speaker 10: and things WGI for everything you've ever done for all

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Speaker 10: the Buffalo Bills Stones.

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks Ach, appreciate the call. Yeah, if you

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Speaker 2: want more on these perceived scheme fits for the defense,

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Speaker 2: later today our podcast episode is going to come out

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Speaker 2: for Bills by the Numbers, where Steve and I kind

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Speaker 2: of dive in deep to the players under contract on

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Speaker 2: this roster and how they fit in the front seven

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Speaker 2: due to this perceived scheme change coming down the pike

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Speaker 2: from Jim Leonard, the new defensive coordinator. So it'll be

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Speaker 2: up later this afternoon. We would encourage you to get

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Speaker 2: get a look at that if you want to go

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Speaker 2: a player by player because we kind of do that

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Speaker 2: for you on the pod this week. But yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: there are some guys that have the scheme versatility to

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Speaker 2: fit either system, and that's gonna be job one of

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Speaker 2: Jim Leonard. Once he gets these guys on the field, obviously,

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Speaker 2: he's gonna review them and their abilities on tape and

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Speaker 2: try to project those skill sets to his scheme. And

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Speaker 2: I would imagine that he would make his scheme malleable

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Speaker 2: enough to maybe accommodate some guys that might not be

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Speaker 2: perfect fits but can do enough things within the scope

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Speaker 2: of his defense where he can tailor it to what

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Speaker 2: they do best. And I would think he's capable of

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Speaker 2: doing that as well. But this is all part of

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Speaker 2: the to do list that Jim Lennard's gonna have his

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Speaker 2: first year in the building.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they do have twenty four free agents unrestricted

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Speaker 1: free agents, and some of those guys are the type

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Speaker 1: of guys you're talking about. You're gonna you need different

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Speaker 1: guys anyway. Some of them you don't mind letting walk off,

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Speaker 1: some of them you want to kind of hang on to.

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Speaker 1: But there I'll say this, I don't think despite the

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Speaker 1: fact I think right now they're like nine million over

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Speaker 1: the cap or something. They could get as much cap

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Speaker 1: space as they want to sign free agents and get

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Speaker 1: guys in here. So I don't think that's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have as much freedom as they want to

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Speaker 1: sign the guys they want if they're available.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's transition now to the phone lines, where one

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Speaker 2: Dion Dawkins, pro bowler for the AFC, is joining us

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Speaker 2: from the Pro Bowl location. Deon, Thanks for giving us

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Speaker 2: some time on what's probably a busy week for you.

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Speaker 2: I guess I got a first start with, you know,

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Speaker 2: the coaching hire of one Joe Brady, a guy you

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Speaker 2: know very well. We haven't had a chance to get

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on it, so why don't you share those

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Speaker 2: right off the bat, Just first, your feelings when you

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Speaker 2: first got the news and what you're hoping for for

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six and beyond.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, so, good, good afternoon, two fellas. Good morning to

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Speaker 12: us on the Cali side. But to hijack the interview.

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Speaker 12: I heard you guys talking about the cap space and

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Speaker 12: all of that stuff. You know, I hope I am

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Speaker 12: with the guys. You know, nothing happens, but I got

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Speaker 12: a free up or do what they do. I hope

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Speaker 12: that I am with the guys.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: I hope that.

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Speaker 12: I'm with the boys because I think you because I

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Speaker 12: love Joe Brady.

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Speaker 3: Man, I am blessed that Joe Brady got the job.

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Speaker 12: I think it's great that somebody came in that was

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Speaker 12: already there, right Like, I don't think that there should

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Speaker 12: be somebody drastically new for a guy like Josh Allen

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Speaker 12: and uh, for Brady to be able to you know,

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Speaker 12: slide right on end. I think it's pretty cool, but

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Speaker 12: sucks to see McDermott go. I am a Brady fan.

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Speaker 12: He likes snow, so I can rock of people who

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Speaker 12: rock with me. And uh, yeah, you give.

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Speaker 1: Us an idea of what you uh, what you're looking for.

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Speaker 1: I mean you must. You had to have had some

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Speaker 1: conversations with you know, Josh and and Connor mcgovernor and

656
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: all your old line buddies and you know, the guys

657
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: that are that are in the locker room with you,

658
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: that went through this season with you. What's the vibe,

659
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: what what's the conversation like about the head coaching change?

660
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 3: Oh man, the.

661
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 12: Vibe, I don't really well, the vibe is good. I

662
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 12: can't say. I don't know it like, the vibe is good,

663
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 12: it's not bad, positive, not negative. But I won't really

664
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 12: get to know the true true vibe until after the

665
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 12: first team team meeting once, when once the guys get

666
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 12: in the same vicinity and the guys get in the

667
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 12: same area where they can really you know, whisper and

668
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 12: talk about what they really feel. Cause you know, like

669
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 12: the guys are not going to be completely completely true

670
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 12: until everybody gets around each other and everybody starts to

671
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 12: really and dissect.

672
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 3: But overall it'll be all positive though. Yeah, it's just

673
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 3: an and rhandthm of how positive it'll be.

674
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know your guys on the defensive side of the.

675
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 2: Ball are probably going to see the most change from

676
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 2: what it's been previous years to what it will be

677
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: going forward. But there might be some degree of change

678
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: for you on that old line with you know, Chromer

679
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 2: hanging up the whistle, you know, and the playbook and

680
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: calling it a career. You know, we've seen reports that

681
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 2: Pat Meyer might be on his way in here, and

682
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 2: he's a disciple of Aaron Kromer. The team hasn't made

683
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: it official yet, but with that encourage, you knowing they're

684
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 2: looking for someone with a similar background.

685
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm already encouraged.

686
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 12: I'm I'm actually liking the way that everything is going

687
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 12: one because I don't think Austin is Is is out

688
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 12: of the race, and I think the coach that's coming

689
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 12: in I'm kind of familiar with happen.

690
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 3: I think I think I know a little bit of him.

691
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,280
Speaker 3: I actually think I know a lot of.

692
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 12: A lot of who he is who's running that room,

693
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 12: And I'm cool with that. Kromer gave him the thumbs

694
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 12: up and all that I need because we all knew

695
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 12: knew that Chrome was retiring shoot in the beginning of

696
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 12: the season, which is crazy, but in the beginning of

697
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 12: the season, we all knew that Chrome was retiring, simple

698
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 12: as that. And for Chrome, me, as a guy that

699
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 12: you know, speaks my mind, I don't.

700
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 3: Have no filter.

701
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 12: I'm gonna tell you, Terry, I told Chrome, I said, look,

702
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 12: and I'm gonna say it how I said. I said,

703
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 12: if you leave, you make sure you get somebody in

704
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 12: this in this and I cursed that knows guys, and

705
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 12: they can know the guys because as an older guy

706
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 12: and with the room of how it is, you don't

707
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 12: want somebody to come in here and just drop the

708
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 12: hammer and be like this is how it is and

709
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 12: this is what it's gonna be, right, Like, No, you

710
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 12: want to be with a group of guys and with

711
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 12: the leader in the room now, like the new guy

712
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 12: that understands and everybody's a different type of player and

713
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 12: it's his yes, his way or the highway. But there's

714
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 12: a respecting there and I could live with that.

715
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: Have you talked to you David Edwards and Connor McGovern

716
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: about their plans? I know you wish them the best

717
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: and you kind of want them back for sure, but

718
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: they've got a chance to go out and get some

719
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: life changing money, make make old time left tackle money, right,

720
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: I mean, like they can they right?

721
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: Right?

722
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, if you talk to them, how are they

723
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: getting through this? And what what's the vibe like for

724
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: guys that do have a chance maybe to leave a

725
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: great spot where they're at, but you know, for obviously

726
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: for the money and for a different opportunity might have

727
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: a chance to leave. I mean, how do you guys

728
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: handle those Comoros conversations?

729
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 3: It's tough.

730
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 12: You know, we all knew that there would be some

731
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 12: type of change up and Connor and h Connor and

732
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 12: Dave especially I think when it comes down to it,

733
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 12: the guys just want to be in the business world,

734
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 12: like they just want to be taken care of the

735
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 12: right way. Like I know, in the previous years, like

736
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 12: I know, a couple of things happen, like where like

737
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 12: we let a couple guys walk off of a million

738
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 12: dollars and maybe two million dollars, right, like something small.

739
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 12: Like I just hope, I really hope whatever it is

740
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 12: that being is gonna make sure that everybody gets the

741
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 12: respectable amount where we can all stay.

742
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 3: But if that's not the case, I'm.

743
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 12: Pretty sure Dave and Connor and whoever else man like nobody,

744
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 12: But I don't like want to say that nobody's safe,

745
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 12: but like this is a this is a chessboard, man Like,

746
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 12: like this is a chessboard. Like I didn't I didn't

747
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 12: been around a while where you might think that a

748
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 12: guy is safe and they're not. So I just think

749
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 12: that everybody put their right foot forward and they're gonna

750
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 12: be okay wherever they end up. And I just hope

751
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 12: that it's all here because when the band is all here,

752
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 12: you know, like you can play a similar similar tune.

753
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: Let's get to a little bit about what's going on

754
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: with You're obviously up for Walter Payton Man of the

755
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 2: Year NFL honors is tomorrow night, So it's not the

756
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: first time you've been up for this thing.

757
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 4: But what are your what are your thoughts? You know,

758
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 4: going in, You're you're hoping for the right results.

759
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 2: But you know, I know it's I know it's not

760
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 2: about I know it's not about the award, Dion.

761
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 12: I want to bring back a trophy to Buffalo, man.

762
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 12: I want to bring back something to Buffalo. Buffalo has

763
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 12: taking a lot of beatings, a lot of haymakers this season,

764
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 12: and I'm telling you something as as nice as that.

765
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 12: It could give just the aura, just a little bit more,

766
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 12: a little bit more ice for the for the battle wounds.

767
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 11: Man.

768
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 12: But uh, I truly think this is a good year

769
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 12: for Snow and uh I'm hoping to, you know, come

770
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 12: home with this thing this year.

771
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 3: I really am. But who knows. Who knows?

772
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 12: But like I always say, I hate to say this

773
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 12: like this, it's not about the trophy, right, It's not

774
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 12: about that trophy. But it would be a beautiful thing

775
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,959
Speaker 12: to get that trophy and to bring that trophy home.

776
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then get to wear that emblem on your

777
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 2: jersey for the rest of your career too, right.

778
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 12: And to wear that jersey for the rest of my career,

779
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 12: that would be.

780
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: Last thing for me. Dion, What have you been told

781
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: about moving into the new digs at the new stadium

782
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: and when that's gonna happen, if you got any idea

783
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: about scheduling maybe having a preseason practice in there?

784
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 4: Uh?

785
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: What are you guys thinking about the new place? When

786
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: was the last time you were through?

787
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 12: Man, Honestly, I haven't thought even about a walk through

788
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 12: or practice yet. It seems like we left about a

789
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 12: day and a half of so you guys can think

790
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 12: about that.

791
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 3: You want to, because I were not.

792
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 12: But what I am thinking about is I know my

793
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 12: my plans for this offseason is is uh and this

794
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 12: is true. I am going to come back the lightest

795
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 12: that I've ever been for this offseason, and I want

796
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 12: to play the lightest towards the lightest that I've ever

797
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 12: played in my career. And I plan on playing in

798
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 12: the three twenty range this year. And I'm gonna shoot

799
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 12: for a different a different type of vibe for my career.

800
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 12: Like I've been playing a certain way, but me and

801
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 12: will have a good plan for what is next for

802
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 12: Dion with.

803
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 3: My style of play.

804
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 12: But also the only thing I've thought of with the

805
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 12: stadium wise is Karshno twenty twenty six, So I would

806
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 12: do my Karshno, my third annual Karshno at the stadium,

807
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 12: And that's the only thing that I've thought of at

808
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 12: the stadium without pads on. So karshnow is the only

809
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 12: thing I'm thinking about outside of you know, training hard.

810
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: We might have.

811
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 2: So we're forecasting light shnow for next season. That's our chance,

812
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: lighter snow, light snow.

813
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 1: Uh.

814
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 2: Last thing for me, Dion, as you know, the NFL

815
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: Honors is gonna have the Protector of the Year award,

816
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: the first inaugural Protector of the Year handed out. I'm

817
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 2: a little disappointed you're not on the list of finalists.

818
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 4: But what what measure? What measure of pride are you

819
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 4: gonna have sitting there in the audience or heck, maybe

820
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 4: they'll even have you present it, you know, knowing that

821
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 4: you were a catalyst for this award's existence.

822
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 7: Yeah.

823
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 12: Man, I'm also too truthful right like you would like

824
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 12: you would think that it would be done in a

825
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 12: way where I was out there presenting the award. But

826
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 12: sadly I'll break that news. I don't think that I

827
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 12: am presenting that award. I think they're gonna let Andrew

828
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 12: Whitworth and Jason Kelsey do it, which I guess I

829
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 12: have to be okay with. But I'm honored that I

830
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 12: got the award made. I'm honored that my name is

831
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 12: on the script of making the award and getting it

832
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 12: done and having a piece of what it looks like

833
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 12: and and everything you know, and fighting for it and

834
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 12: for the bigger guys. But you know me, I will

835
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 12: make sure that what's supposed to be right will be right.

836
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 3: But I'm just honored. Like I'm definitely gonna be emotional.

837
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 12: I'm an emotional guy, and honestly, I would be more

838
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 12: emotional for the guys that are coming up to starting

839
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 12: to play football, right, like in our country, like we

840
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 12: have so many kids and so many people that are

841
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 12: that are oversized and undersized, and some people are overweight

842
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 12: and some people are a nice, nice big weight, like

843
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 12: a nice comfortable weight, and where they're like, you know what,

844
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 12: I don't have to be a quarterback and running back

845
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 12: and receiver to be cool and to be a good

846
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 12: football player. I can be an offensive lineman and be

847
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 12: a cool offensive lineman and have a purpose in this

848
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 12: football game, not just as a big ugly right. So

849
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 12: now people will grow up and have the opportunity to

850
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 12: win an award. And I'm glad that the Protector of

851
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 12: the Year is now added to that list because it

852
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 12: was definitely well overdue. But I'm glad Snow did what

853
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 12: Snow did and there's a little a little bit more

854
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 12: of greatness coming from Buffalo.

855
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: Man, what are you wearing on the red carpet for

856
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: NFL on you're.

857
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 4: A little glitzy last year? What's the what's the game?

858
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: What you got, bro?

859
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you, I am so all over the place.

860
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 3: I have an outfit.

861
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 12: The first outfit did not come out the way that

862
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 12: I plan. And I have been scrambling around this city

863
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 12: to try to figure out what I'm going to really

864
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 12: put on, which is why I don't have a shirt

865
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 12: on now, because I don't even.

866
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 3: Have a shirt for today.

867
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 12: And I am trying my best to figure out.

868
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 3: And just to be Dion Dion Dion. But we'll figure

869
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 3: it out.

870
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 4: Awes man, hit the hit the big and talls out.

871
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 3: There, man, I'm trying to hit the bigg and skinnies. Man.

872
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 4: That's right, light snow like snow.

873
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: I know.

874
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 4: Thanks to appreciate the time, Dion, be well, travel safe

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Speaker 4: and we'll see soon. Sha all right, that's Deon Dawkins

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Speaker 4: joining us. Look at that little tidbit.

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Speaker 2: For next season, we're gonna try to play around three

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Speaker 2: twenty three, twenty five. I would imagine just looking at him, Steve,

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Speaker 2: that would probably be twenty to twenty five pounds lighter,

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Speaker 2: wouldn't you say, playing at three forty the.

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Speaker 1: Last I don't think. Yeah, I don't think he was

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Speaker 1: three point fifty.

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Speaker 4: I would I think maybe three forty though, but maybe

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Speaker 4: three thirty five.

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Speaker 1: But think about it, though, that's still only it's like

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Speaker 1: seven percent of his body weight probably, yeah, but take.

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Speaker 2: That weight off your joints, and I mean he moves

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Speaker 2: well at that size.

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Speaker 1: That would be like a two hundred pound guy losing

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Speaker 1: fifteen pounds, fourteen pounds, you know, seven percent. So uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're talking. You're talking playing at twenty pounds lighter than

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Speaker 1: he was twenty five maybe.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, light schnow I there you go.

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Speaker 1: I called it. He liked it. He did like it.

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Speaker 4: I did like it, so that.

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Speaker 2: Was good and nice to hear his thoughts, you know,

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Speaker 2: on the old line, what could happen at the old

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Speaker 2: line coaching position, and his thoughts on Joe Brady obviously

899
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Speaker 2: a f because hey, it means less change for those

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Speaker 2: guys offensively going forward, so they can kind of hit

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Speaker 2: the ground running coming into this upcoming season. Got to

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Speaker 2: take a break here. We'll get back to the phone

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Speaker 2: calls when we return. What are you hoping to hear

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Speaker 2: from Bill's defensive coordinator Jim Leonard in his press conference tomorrow?

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Speaker 2: More on that when we get back here on one

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live. What do you hope to hear from Bill's

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Speaker 2: defensive coordinator Jim Leonard in his press conference tomorrow eight

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Speaker 2: oh three oh five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two,

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Speaker 2: five point fifty general's response we saw when Leonard was

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Speaker 2: announced as the DC hire was pretty positive from Bill's fans.

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Speaker 2: I think there were a lot of people rooting for

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Speaker 2: him to return after being here as a player and

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Speaker 2: being very successful in the college ranks as a defensive

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Speaker 2: play caller.

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Speaker 4: But what do you need to hear from him? Tomorrow?

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Speaker 2: Open lines for you at eight oh three oh five

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Speaker 2: fifty to Gary on a cell here before we have

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Speaker 2: to break what's up Gary?

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Speaker 9: Hey, guys, y'll do him good?

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Speaker 1: Good.

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Speaker 9: I haven't talked to El since a season Edd. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: I'm not I'm not happy about Yeah, I'm not really

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Speaker 9: happy with it, to be honest, y'all know who I am.

924
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Speaker 9: I would have fired being That's just my opinion. Now

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Speaker 9: we got Brady, got to hope he does good. So

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Speaker 9: that Judy defensive coordinator. But anyway, I guess I want

927
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Speaker 9: to see how they're going to use the pass rushers,

928
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Speaker 9: because that's the one thing this team is to keep

929
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Speaker 9: home is back. We gotta get pass rushers. We gotta

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Speaker 9: get we got to create you know, have in the

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Speaker 9: backfield's a Hoyt. Obviously he's there. That's only I can

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Speaker 9: speak of it. We don't know who's there yet. It's

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Speaker 9: gonna be on their defense as far as pass rushers,

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Speaker 9: so hot there. I know when they got Hoyts that

935
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Speaker 9: we're going to use them all over you know, like uh,

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Speaker 9: you know, we're mismatches and all that. I'm hoping that

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Speaker 9: they do the same year because you know, he's not

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Speaker 9: a player that we need. If we don't move him

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Speaker 9: around so and then all of a sudden, I want

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Speaker 9: a U middle line, but they're gonna be like three four,

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Speaker 9: So I want the two middle linebackers to be bigger,

942
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Speaker 9: and you know, because I'm pired of getting gas up

943
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Speaker 9: the middle. So if they could fix that, I guess

944
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Speaker 9: I'll be all right with it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So stronger up the middle for Gary, Thanks for

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Speaker 4: the call.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

948
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Speaker 4: Think at least one of them will be.

949
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Speaker 1: Nice to get the pass rush fixed. And then Hoyts

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Speaker 1: showed some stuff in the two seconds that he played

951
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Speaker 1: for You know, it seemed like he was just there

952
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Speaker 1: for a heartbeat, and he was so but he he

953
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Speaker 1: showed up. Man, he showed up, and so did everybody

954
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Speaker 1: else because of him. It seemed like, right, Hoyt is

955
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Speaker 1: exciting to think about, and he's coming off of major injury.

956
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Speaker 1: Should be back, you know, as good or as or

957
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Speaker 1: better than he was, but we'll see. Uh yeah. And

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Speaker 1: the middle linebackers, I get, we've talked about that. You'd

959
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Speaker 1: love to have some big, burly run stuffers up there,

960
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: but you know, as soon as you get there and

961
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Speaker 1: do that, you know teams are gonna spread you out

962
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Speaker 1: and start throwing it against you, and those guys got

963
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Speaker 1: to be able to cover. So it's a it's a

964
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Speaker 1: double edged sword. We all know that as well. So

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Speaker 1: the pass USh is huge. You're right, it'd be great

966
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Speaker 1: if we had a great pass rush and they wouldn't

967
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Speaker 1: have to send nine guys to get pressure.

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Speaker 2: I will say though, and you've made this point before, Steve,

969
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Speaker 2: Obviously you know the big bodied people are the one percenters.

970
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Speaker 2: They don't grow on trees. They're hard to find, and

971
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Speaker 2: the Bills have found it hard to find a premier

972
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Speaker 2: pass rusher suitable for a four to three front in

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Speaker 2: a three four front. There are a lot more guys

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Speaker 2: running around the earth that are six three, sixty four

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Speaker 2: two fifty five that you can line up at outside

976
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Speaker 2: linebacker with great athleticism.

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Speaker 4: The odds might.

978
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Speaker 2: Be better that their Bills can finally land a premier pass rusher,

979
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Speaker 2: either in free agency or on the ridge.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So, and Hoyt might be one of those guys.

981
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Speaker 1: But yes, there are more guys that fit the physical

982
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Speaker 1: description of the sixty four plus two hundred and fifty

983
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: pound two hundred and fifty pound plus guy. There are

984
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Speaker 1: tons more those guys than there are six five three

985
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Speaker 1: Bills plus guys who are athletes, so that's a bigger

986
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Speaker 1: pool you're choosing from.

987
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Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here, Our number two wide open

988
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 2: for your phone calls at eight O three oh five fifty.

989
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Speaker 2: What are you hoping to hear from New Bill's defensive

990
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: coordinator Jim Leonard in his press conference tomorrow? You let

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997
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1007
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1009
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1012
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1013
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1015
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00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: to the regular season. A lot has to be ironed

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Speaker 2: somewhere in the home market, and we will have a

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Speaker 2: broadcast outlet for the twenty twenty sixth season, but that's

1025
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Speaker 2: an ongoing process that is only now just getting underway.

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00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 2: So that's kind of where things stand for the most

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00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 2: part as to how we're going to operate for the

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00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:15,080
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Speaker 1: So and it's yeah, it's free, the Bills apps free,

1030
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: turn it on, so your access will be there. We're

1031
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,640
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1032
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: That will happen. That will happen. Yeah, that's going to

1033
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 1: affect us a little bit because of the technology involved

1034
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: with taking calls over the air. We're gonna hopefully still

1035
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: be able to do that and uh yeah, this is

1036
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Speaker 1: far above our pay grade. But apparently, but luckily, and

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of deliberately, you still don't have to

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Speaker 1: pay or listen to one Bill's Live, right.

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Speaker 2: And I think that that is part of the root

1040
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 2: of this effort because as we heard Bill's President of

1041
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 2: business Operations, Pete Welly say yesterday, he believes this will

1042
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 2: allow the club to provide access to our fans and

1043
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Speaker 2: allow us to further.

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Speaker 4: Engage with the local business community. So that's the impetus

1045
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 4: for this.

1046
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 2: But yes, going forward, effective Monday, MSG will still be

1047
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Speaker 2: on there and uh, we'll be on the Bills app

1048
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Speaker 2: and on Buffalo bills dot com. So just wanted to

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Speaker 2: headline that programming note for you going forward.

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Speaker 1: For Bay else. I mean, you're still going to be

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Speaker 1: able to get the uh, you know, the pot if

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Speaker 1: you some people record this or go back to it

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Speaker 1: on Spotify and all that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, it's all the same, it'll all be there.

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00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 1: It's all the same.

1056
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Speaker 2: But let's get back to the phones at eight oh

1057
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Speaker 2: three five point fifty one eight eight eight five fifty

1058
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 2: two five fifty where we're asking you today, what do

1059
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,760
Speaker 2: you hope to hear from Bill's defensive coordinator Jim Leonard

1060
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 2: when he addresses the media for the first time tomorrow

1061
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Speaker 2: And we have open lines for you there. But leading

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Speaker 2: us off in this segment is Ryan in Toronto.

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 4: Brian?

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00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 13: Good Steve. I'm so I had to hear this news

1066
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 13: about you guys not being on war. I heard this

1067
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 13: news yesterday, but I was not sure if there was

1068
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Speaker 13: one hundred percent of the state news. And he's also

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00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 13: true that they also taken away the Sables games as

1070
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Speaker 13: well the double year. It's just who came up with

1071
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Speaker 13: this idea? ISA or is the league or is the station? Secondly, Steve,

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Speaker 13: I got disagree with your defense. Defense for the Bills

1073
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 13: second half adjustments, they did really well, especially with all

1074
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Speaker 13: the losses offense. They were showed up Atlanta game. If

1075
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Speaker 13: you look at all the losses and offense had the

1076
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Speaker 13: ball lastly lost lost playoff losses, and so the defense

1077
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Speaker 13: is falled. So please, defense did a really good job.

1078
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Speaker 13: I second a half, A different has to be made

1079
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Speaker 13: at the same time. Often had to show up second half,

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Speaker 13: especially if they're losing. Guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're saying Ryan, you know, the where we're going

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Speaker 2: going forward from a programming perspective is purely a business operation.

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Speaker 1: Well, the contract ran out, so they didn't and they

1084
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Speaker 1: didn't couldn't come to terms on a new deal.

1085
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Speaker 4: So this is you know, that's where that's where's this

1086
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Speaker 4: leaves out.

1087
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Speaker 1: And as you can imagine, yeah, as you can imagine,

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Speaker 1: everything's changing so fast.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the media lands.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, with the streaming stuff and the network stuff and

1091
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: the broadcast stuff. It's still an NFL rule that's somewhere, somehow,

1092
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: some way. Each NFL team, wherever they are, has to

1093
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: be on an air on the airwaves on game day.

1094
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: They have to be on a radio station and over

1095
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: the air radio station. They can't strictly stream their game broadcast,

1096
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: so it'll be a component. Yeah, right, so they got

1097
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: to do they'll do something. We don't know what it's

1098
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: going to look like though, and for you know, so

1099
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: it uh this The Sabers deal with g R the

1100
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: way I understand, isn't up until after the Proceedsons hockey

1101
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: playoffs over, so when that's done that they'll be in

1102
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: kind of the same boat we are, although not identical.

1103
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: And it doesn't necessarily mean whatever happens to the Bills

1104
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: is going to happen to the Sabers. There are two

1105
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: different things. It's not necessarily connected, but it always makes

1106
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: sense if they are. Yeah, having the same ownership, yeah, yeah,

1107
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: having the same worship, plus being in the same market

1108
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: and having the same radio stations and the same broadcast

1109
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: some of the same broadcast rules in effect for both leagues.

1110
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: So but they're not necessarily the exact same deals.

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00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 2: With regard to the defensive comments you made, Ryan, while

1112
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 2: you were impressed with the halftime adjustments that the defensive

1113
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 2: staff made here last year, and they were a lot

1114
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 2: of good ones, I mean it was instrumental in the

1115
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 2: comeback win over the Patriots in Week fifteen, which, oh,

1116
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 2: by the way, was the last game the Patriots lost,

1117
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: so yes, they deserve credit for that. But earlier in

1118
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 2: the show, we had a call from another fan who said,

1119
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 2: I'm glad the defense changed. I was tired of waiting

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00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 2: until the third quarter for the defense to show up.

1121
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 2: Why could they not duplicate what they did in the

1122
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 2: second half in the first half of games with the

1123
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 2: game plan they came into the game with. And that

1124
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 2: was a frustrating point for one of our earlier callers.

1125
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 2: So and you can see it both ways.

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00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm not playing this as a game of

1127
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: tag at the end of these games, just because the

1128
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: Bills offense had the game ball at the end of

1129
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: the game and you know, the game ended with them

1130
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 1: not being able to score the points needed. You score

1131
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: thirty three points or thirty points in a playoff game,

1132
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: you've got to get You don't get to say that

1133
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: you're the better side of the ball and you give

1134
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: up thirty three points if you're the defense. It's not

1135
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: a game of tag where last one on the field loses.

1136
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: You know, if the defense is on the field, they

1137
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 1: lost because the other team scored, or the Bills get

1138
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: on the field and they lose because the Bills can't

1139
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: go down the field and score. I don't I'm not

1140
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: a you got to take the whole game in totality,

1141
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: and over the course of Josh Allen's career, it has

1142
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: been the defense that has not held up there into

1143
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: the bargain. Just because Josh had had a chance to

1144
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: go to the length of the field and score a

1145
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: touchdown with and did it with thirteen seconds left doesn't

1146
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: mean that you know the defense or that the offense stunk,

1147
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: you know, because you know they get into overtime, they

1148
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to get the ball back. That's

1149
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: not necessarily you know, having the defense blow up like

1150
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: that isn't necessarily the final straw. It's the totality of

1151
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: the game. So yeah, there are some games where the

1152
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: offense should have won, could have won. There are tons

1153
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: of games where that. I mean, we lost a game

1154
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: here against the Denver Broncos two years ago because we

1155
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: the special teams had a middle school mistake and had

1156
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 1: twelve guys on the field when the other team missed

1157
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: the winning field goal. So yeah, I'm no, it's a

1158
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 1: totality of the effort by both sides of the ball,

1159
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 1: the defense history. The offense is top five in the league,

1160
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: the defense was not. So you can say what you

1161
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: want about how they lost the playoff games. And all

1162
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: of that, I get it, But to me, the defense

1163
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: has been the weak link here for quite some time. Yeah, so.

1164
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 4: That is what they are hoping to change here going forward.

1165
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: Eight oh three five point fifty one eighty eight, five

1166
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 2: fifty two, five fifty the number to get on board.

1167
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 2: As we're asking you, what do you hope to hear

1168
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 2: from Bill's defensive coordinator Jim Leonard in his press conference

1169
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 2: tomorrow for the record, special teams coordinator Jeff Rodgers and

1170
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator Pete Carmike, who will also be addressing the media.

1171
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 2: We just know that the defense is the side of

1172
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 2: the ball that is likely to change the most, and

1173
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 2: people seem to be most interested in how that is

1174
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 2: going to look going forward forward knowing that they probably

1175
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 2: have a pretty good idea what the offense is going

1176
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 2: to look like, even with some tweaks going in to

1177
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 2: next season. Let's crack open the tweet sheet, which is

1178
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 2: brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment

1179
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 2: moving company of the Buffalo Bills. What do you want

1180
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 2: to hear from Jim Lennard tomorrow? Will Barbara says, off topic,

1181
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 2: but how do you guys feel that none of our

1182
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 2: new coaches have head coaching experience. I would have liked

1183
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 2: to see at least one who would he consult with

1184
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 2: when things get hard.

1185
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: That's a good question, Barbara, that's a fair point.

1186
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 2: I mean there are he does have a veteran offensive

1187
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 2: mind and Carmichael on the staff, who I think Joe believes.

1188
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 2: You know, if I'm not going to be able to

1189
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: be in the offensive meeting room all the time, I'm

1190
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 2: going to have head coaching duties that are going to

1191
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 2: pull my attention elsewhere. I have full faith that Pete

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01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 2: Carmichael is going to run that room the way it

1193
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 2: needs to be run for us to be successful as

1194
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 2: an offense, and that's why he hired him. Now the

1195
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 2: head coaching point is more interesting. Yeah, I mean, I

1196
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 2: suppose he could have added somebody to the staff with

1197
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 2: prior head coaching experience.

1198
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Speaker 4: For example, Aaron Glenn just hired Frank Reich.

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Speaker 2: Who's been a head coach in the league before, and

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's the main reason why he hired him,

1201
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 2: but it's nice to have somebody that is familiar with

1202
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 2: what the job entails. From that perspective, So I get

1203
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 2: your point. It's a valid point, and pop would have done.

1204
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 4: That to help the cause.

1205
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: And it's gonna be uh, it's gonna be interesting to

1206
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: see how those guys handle it. Now. Both of these

1207
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: coordinators he did hire have extensive coaching experience, Carmichael especially

1208
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: and Jim Leonard too. I mean, Jena Lennard played in

1209
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 1: the league for ten years and now his coach for

1210
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: quite some time, so they do have experience. But you're right,

1211
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: they don't have the experience of sitting in that seat.

1212
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I don't know if I'm trying

1213
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: to think of a scenario or something that would where

1214
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: that would be beneficial for a coordinator. But nevertheless, you're right,

1215
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 1: and it is a good point. Experience counts and it's

1216
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: usually considered a good thing, right. Neither one of these

1217
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 1: guys have that.

1218
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 2: Jeffrey said he's hoping to hear from Jim Leonard tomorrow

1219
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 2: that he sees current fits on the current team that

1220
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 2: fits his style of play, and that'll be job one

1221
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 2: for Jim Leonard and his defensive staff review the tape

1222
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 2: of this team from last year and make the determination

1223
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 2: as to who is who has the position flexibility to

1224
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 2: be effective Going into Leonard's scheme and the twenty twenty

1225
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 2: sixth season, and that's a projection, but it's an assessment

1226
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 2: they're entrusted with making.

1227
01:04:55,920 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: How difficult or how extensive will the defensive roster for

1228
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: reformation be? Are they gonna trade guys? Are they gonna

1229
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 1: just outright cut guys? Certainly we'll get some clues from

1230
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 1: contracts existing and which are existing and are expiring. You know,

1231
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: there's always a couple of guys where you can cut

1232
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 1: them and get a cap benefit from. We have to

1233
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: wait and see, and I think that's really one of

1234
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 1: the real questions. The first question is are you going

1235
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 1: to run a three four or four to three? And

1236
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: if he says three four, I'm gonna say, you know

1237
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: who's who can play a three four that you've seen

1238
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: on film with the bills running a four to three,

1239
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: that's the second question, right mm hmm, you gotta that's

1240
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 1: that's what we want to know.

1241
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 4: Got to get those answers.

1242
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: What do you see? You know who's gonna be here.

1243
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 4: Let's get back to the phones and we go to

1244
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 4: John on a cell. What's up John?

1245
01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 9: A couple of a couple of things.

1246
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 14: Guys, Listen, what do you think with regards to Tyler

1247
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 14: Vass and Matt Prater, if Matt Prater is going to

1248
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 14: be going to retirement or there'll be a competition come

1249
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 14: the fall. And the second question is, I was in

1250
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 14: a medical conference. Do you know in Australia and New

1251
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,479
Speaker 14: Zealand in the professional rugby leagues they're using a micro

1252
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 14: chip in the mouthpiece to determine concussion protocol, which I

1253
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 14: think would be an unbelievable thing if they did that

1254
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 14: in the NFL instead of relying on if they think

1255
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 14: a patient a player bangs is out on the turf

1256
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 14: or you know, he feels a little woozy, that they

1257
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 14: can determine right away the extent of if they have

1258
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 14: a concussion or not. And I'll hang up and listen.

1259
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that's great technology.

1260
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 2: I was unaware of it, John, first, I've heard about it,

1261
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 2: so I could see the NFL looking into that because

1262
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 2: they've really pushed player safety the last eight to ten

1263
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 2: years hard, and so if this is a new technology

1264
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 2: that can assist in diagnosing concussions literally as they happen,

1265
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 2: maybe even if symptoms aren't present right away. Because I

1266
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 2: don't have to tell you this, Steve, but there are

1267
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 2: instances where a guy will be in a major collision

1268
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 2: in a football game, get up and seemingly be fine.

1269
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 2: He goes to bed that night, wakes up the next

1270
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 2: day and he's got concussion symptoms. Twenty four hours later.

1271
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 4: That happens.

1272
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there is a delayed effect. Sometimes. Every guy's different,

1273
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 1: every concussion is different. It's a great idea. I know

1274
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: there are a lot of guys who don't like mouthpieces anyway,

1275
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 1: and they don't wear them. You'd have to mandate mouthpiece usage.

1276
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:43,959
Speaker 1: Plus for a guy like, say, for instance, Josh Allen

1277
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 1: or Terrell Bernard or Shaq Thompson. Those guys call signals

1278
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 1: and Josh has to do it before the play, right,

1279
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: They got to do it before the play. Now, a linebacker,

1280
01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 1: they can put their mouthpiece in and scream and yell

1281
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 1: and up, but when they're talking, they got to be articulate.

1282
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 1: So it's hard to have a mouthpiece in sometimes and

1283
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 1: make yourself understood. But it's a great idea. Yeah, And

1284
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure the league will look into it, and they

1285
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 1: may be already aware of it, and maybe some guys

1286
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 1: are using it now. I do not know, but that's

1287
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: an interesting it's an interesting step in technology. I'm all

1288
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 1: for it though. Yeah, it's good stuff.

1289
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 2: Back on the tweets sheet, Gene says not looking for,

1290
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 2: but expecting many high priced players traded or cut in

1291
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 2: order for offensive linemen to be preserved and new defensive

1292
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 2: players signed, especially if the defensive scheme changes making it

1293
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:46,839
Speaker 2: better against the run. So he's hoping high priced players

1294
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 2: on defense get trimmed off the roster so they can

1295
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 2: re sign the offensive linemen they're going to be free agents.

1296
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 4: Those are David Edwards and Connor McGovern. Gene is a

1297
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 4: line lover.

1298
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 1: GM wanna be for sure, look at our look at

1299
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: who we can expend and jettison to save money so

1300
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: we can sign players we do like.

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01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 2: You got to be careful with that, though, because you

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01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 2: don't want to create more holes than you already have

1303
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 2: by just uniformly throwing people overboard.

1304
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 1: Or thinking what you release one player to save all

1305
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 1: this money to patch these small holes, but in reality

1306
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 1: you've made an enormous hole at this spot, that spot

1307
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 1: you just vacated, or you know, two seeming seemingly expendable

1308
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:38,759
Speaker 1: guys together make a void you don't have the personnel

1309
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 1: to cover for, and then all of a sudden, if

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01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: you do that, you wake up and you're and you're

1311
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 1: at the draft, and now you've got to take guys

1312
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 1: you really weren't planning on taking at positions you really

1313
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 1: didn't think you had to take because you do have

1314
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 1: that hole. You don't want to paint yourself into a

1315
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: corner when you get to the draft having to take

1316
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 1: a certain position player. We talk about it every year.

1317
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: You're you're gonna see this team sign linebackers, defensive linemen,

1318
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: outside linebackers, inside linebackers, safeties, corners. They're gonna sign all

1319
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 1: these players so that they can get to the draft

1320
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 1: and say, Okay, who's going to be the best pro

1321
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 1: out of all the positions available right there at pick

1322
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 1: number twenty five where the Bills pick, six twenty six,

1323
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:25,640
Speaker 1: where the Bills pick, and they'll say, well, it's this

1324
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 1: guy right here, I say got to take him. We're

1325
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 1: taking this middle linebacker, We're taking this safety, We're taking

1326
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 1: this corner, whoever it may be. Because they've got they

1327
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 1: feel like they've filled up their roster with enough depth

1328
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 1: or quality players that they can take the best player

1329
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: in the draft at the point they picked. They're going

1330
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 1: to try and get to that point. That's that's the philosophy.

1331
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 2: Got to take a break here as we're up against

1332
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 2: the clock with more phone calls when we get back.

1333
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:53,759
Speaker 2: What do you want to hear from new defensive coordinator

1334
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 2: Jim Leonard at his press conference tomorrow? You tell us

1335
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 2: next at eight h three to zero five fifty one

1336
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 2: eighty eight five point fifty two, five fifty the open

1337
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 2: lines for you there more of your calls next year

1338
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 2: on Want Bill's Live. Okay, back here on one Bill's Live,

1339
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 2: Chris Brown see task you with you? What do you

1340
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 2: want to hear from new defensive coordinator Jim Leonard when

1341
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 2: he addresses the media tomorrow? Back to the phone as

1342
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 2: we go at eight oh three h five fifty one

1343
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 2: eighty eight five point fifty two five fifty. And to

1344
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 2: Ronnie in West Seneca, what's up Ronnie?

1345
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 1: Hey?

1346
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:28,639
Speaker 11: How are you guys doing good?

1347
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 5: Good?

1348
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 11: I'm just calling. I'd like your guys' opinion. I've I've

1349
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 11: called and talked to Steve before about the consistency out

1350
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 11: of the officiating and what really drives me nuts. It's

1351
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 11: not just it's just not the Bills games that I've

1352
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 11: seen where there's been blown calls. There's a lot of

1353
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 11: other games when blown calls. And I was actually thinking

1354
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 11: to myself, it would be a great idea like our

1355
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 11: police that that enforced the laws of society they have

1356
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 11: to wear body camera. It would be an ideal thing

1357
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 11: for these armsome refs and officials to actually have to

1358
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 11: wear body cam. So when they do have a blown call,

1359
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 11: us as fans, if we take a look at it

1360
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 11: and say we're looking from their view, well, maybe I

1361
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 11: can see where the point of view where he's coming.

1362
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 11: And that's why he called it the way he called it.

1363
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 11: I think it would help also for instant replays a

1364
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 11: lot better that they could actually choose to get those

1365
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 11: pictures or videos too to help them out. Well, what

1366
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:31,560
Speaker 11: do you guys think of something of that?

1367
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 1: So I get your point, Ronnie, but think about this.

1368
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 1: The reason the reason I want to rabbit hole, Yeah,

1369
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 1: the reason you want cops with body cams is, I mean,

1370
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 1: those are serious situations and all that. The problem is this,

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01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 1: and I get it what you're how you're you're thinking

1372
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 1: that would be they've got twenty five cameras already. They

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01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 1: don't need another one.

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01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 4: They got a cable cam that hangs.

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01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: They got the field, they got all cameras you can

1376
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 1: possibly have a pylon. We don't need them. The only

1377
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 1: thing a body camera to do, by your own explanation,

1378
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 1: is it would say, well he didn't have the right angle.

1379
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 1: Nobody cares if he had the right angle. It's a

1380
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 1: tough job. And Goodell, Roger Goodell did his news conference

1381
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 1: for two hours yesterday. Somebody he was there for two

1382
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 1: hours and the headline was Roger Goodell spends just two

1383
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: hours with the media yesterday and it's problem, Like what.

1384
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 4: Two hours is a lot?

1385
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you talking about? Like anyway, and

1386
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 1: he said he was one of the things he got

1387
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,759
Speaker 1: crushed for was saying, he goes, I'm I'm really happy

1388
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Speaker 1: with how good our officials are.

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01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 4: Jobs our officials are doing is amazing.

1390
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 1: It's amazing. And let me just say this as a

1391
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 1: guy who has a reputation for hating officials, he's right.

1392
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 1: The thing that nobody appreciates is how hard it is.

1393
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 1: It's hard, and they've got help now with all the cameras.

1394
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 1: They're giving them some help, as much help as they can.

1395
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 1: These guys do a really good job. Nobody wants to

1396
01:13:57,880 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: give them credit because all they want to see is

1397
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 1: focus on is the bad calls and the blown calls.

1398
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:05,839
Speaker 1: And I've said it a million times too, and coaches

1399
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 1: have reiterated this to a man, every head coach, assistant coach, coordinator,

1400
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 1: and player. They would rather have an official non call

1401
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: something that happened than call something that didn't. They would

1402
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 1: rather have a miss something that they should have called

1403
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: than to call something that they shouldn't. That is a

1404
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 1: preference for every player, every coach, every coordinator, everybody. So

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01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 1: the officials when they call some is because they believe

1406
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 1: they see it. They see it, and if they don't

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01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 1: see it, well it's not because they don't believe they

1408
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:48,600
Speaker 1: think it happened. They believe it happened. That's why they

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01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 1: throw the flag. It's a tough, tough job these officials have.

1410
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 1: They do and they do a fantastic job. And unlike

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01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 1: what a lot of people always call in and say,

1412
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 1: they are held accountable. They are graded. Every call is graded,

1413
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 1: every game is graded, every non call is graded, every

1414
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 1: everything they do is they are held accountable for and

1415
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 1: some of them lose their jobs because of it. It's

1416
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:22,640
Speaker 1: that simple. So yes, they're always looking to tweak it,

1417
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,679
Speaker 1: but having the officials wear a body cam that's shaken

1418
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:28,799
Speaker 1: around as they run and turn and twist their heads.

1419
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 1: They're if a body cam's on the middle of their chest,

1420
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 1: you're not going to get anything because their heads moving

1421
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 1: side to side all the time they're watching stuff. They're

1422
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 1: not facing all the forehead. Yeah, so I get your point,

1423
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 1: and I'm all for helping them as much as we can.

1424
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 1: But let's never go I say never, never say never,

1425
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 1: but let's not go down the rabbit hole of getting

1426
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:58,600
Speaker 1: this thing done with just video and video alone. That

1427
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 1: that'd be tough. Although I know this, I've said it.

1428
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:07,799
Speaker 1: Maybe someday we will. Maybe they'll have twenty five cameras

1429
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 1: mandatory at every game. They'll have them set up in

1430
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 1: the way that's best. They discovered that it's best, and

1431
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 1: every play will run and they'll look up at the

1432
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 1: scoreboard and they'll be a big red or yellow light

1433
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:22,879
Speaker 1: and if the yellow light is on, there's a penalty

1434
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 1: because some video operator saw it, and then they'll call

1435
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 1: the penalty and all that the players will adjust to it.

1436
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 1: They'll play tighter and tighter and with less freedom and

1437
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 1: less freedom until they can run a play without getting

1438
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 1: a penalty at all. I don't know if I want

1439
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 1: to go there. Yeah, I don't know if I want

1440
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 1: to go there. Right, I'm gonna bog the game down. Well,

1441
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 1: it might until the players adjust, and the players will adjust.

1442
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 1: They can do anything, the players. I mean.

1443
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 2: But if as long as it's called in a consistent fashion,

1444
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 2: you're gonna call the game tight, call the whole game tight.

1445
01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 4: We can adjust to that.

1446
01:16:58,680 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 1: That's right.

1447
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 4: Just do not be inconsistent with how you're calling a game.

1448
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,679
Speaker 1: That's right. And if you're gonna have like nine guys

1449
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 1: sitting somewhere else calling the game as officials over video,

1450
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have cam they're gonna have cameras on

1451
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 1: the offensive line, they're gonna have cameras on the D line,

1452
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 1: like everybody, every dB and corner is gonna be on camera.

1453
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 1: They're gonna catch every little cheap shot, every hole, every grab,

1454
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's what you're looking for. And at

1455
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 1: the end of the play, everybody will look to the

1456
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:32,600
Speaker 1: scoreboard and see if there was a flag throne or

1457
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 1: you know, a light or maybe the officials on the

1458
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 1: field who spot the ball, and that's all they do.

1459
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 1: Or that and break up fights. They somebody says, throw

1460
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 1: a flag, so he throws a flag. That's it. I mean,

1461
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 1: that doesn't sound like a fun competitive atmosphere to me.

1462
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 2: It's I think people are trying to find a way

1463
01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 2: to to success fully remove human error from officiating. And

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01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 2: I don't think that is possible unless you start having

1465
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 2: robots to it, and to your point, cameras and cameras only,

1466
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 2: which then dictate to the human officials whether to throw

1467
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 2: a flag or not.

1468
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 4: Right, you can't.

1469
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 2: As long as there is a human element involved in

1470
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 2: the officiating, there are gonna be mistakes because all humans

1471
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 2: make miss stakes. And here, especially at hot in a

1472
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 2: high speed game, to the lead aft.

1473
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 1: And we're right back to where we started with this.

1474
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: We've been this before with these Bills games that have

1475
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 1: always come down, you know, all these Bills games with

1476
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, the Bills going home or even making it through.

1477
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,679
Speaker 1: You get these games closer and closer, and the league

1478
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 1: is designed to have close games, right, the bad teams

1479
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: get the best players out of the draft, and the

1480
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:52,560
Speaker 1: good players get the last pick, they play easier schedules.

1481
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 1: The whole thing the games are designed. The league is

1482
01:18:55,760 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 1: designed to be very, very fair and very close from

1483
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 1: top to bottom. You're it's gonna come down to those

1484
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 1: calls late in games. You just can't get away from it.

1485
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 1: The more the game is close and tight and competitive,

1486
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 1: the more important those late game calls are gonna be,

1487
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,480
Speaker 1: and the more crucial they become, and the more scrutinized

1488
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 1: they become. And now you've got every official, every official

1489
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 1: on the field, in the replay booth and in the

1490
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 1: and as consultants in the in the broadcast booth, they're

1491
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,560
Speaker 1: all say, now, that wasn't a catch. And then on

1492
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 1: further review, everybody, the fans, the players, former players, they're

1493
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:38,679
Speaker 1: all going, what are you talking about? That was a catch?

1494
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 1: But all the officials are going, no, that's not a catch.

1495
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 1: In the moment, even the replay official, even the guy

1496
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:50,600
Speaker 1: in the booth with Tony, with Tony and Jim, it's like, no,

1497
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 1: that wasn't a catch.

1498
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 6: Yeah it was a catch.

1499
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 1: Right, So here we are. That's that's the world we

1500
01:19:57,960 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 1: live in. It's the world we live in.

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01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 2: I just think Bills fans are tired of being on

1502
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 2: the wrong side of it. Yeah, and they have a

1503
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 2: leg to stand on with that argument.

1504
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 10: Sure.

1505
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:08,680
Speaker 2: On the tweetsheet, what do you want to hear from

1506
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 2: Jim Leonards press conference tomorrow, Jason says his plans for

1507
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 2: scheme flexibility, which I think is.

1508
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 4: A good question to ask.

1509
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 2: I might even ask it for you, Jason tomorrow, because

1510
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 2: I think that's pretty critical, especially in year one when

1511
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 2: you're making this changeover. If there's a degree of flexibility

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01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 2: that lends itself to hanging on and making use of

1513
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 2: some of the players you have under contract on the

1514
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:37,680
Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball where they can serve a

1515
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:42,919
Speaker 2: role that contributes to the production of play on the defense,

1516
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 2: well then that's a plus, because now you're not making

1517
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 2: wholesale changes to fit a scheme, You're bending the elements

1518
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 2: of the scheme to fit the players you have. So

1519
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,639
Speaker 2: I'd be curious for his answer on that as well.

1520
01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 2: Ken says, given the new defensive scheme, plus utilizing the

1521
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:04,639
Speaker 2: players where they're suited to play, will training camp provide

1522
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 2: a lab to see how scheme and talent merge in

1523
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 2: the final plan?

1524
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 4: I think it happens before that.

1525
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 2: I know they don't have pads on and OTAs, but

1526
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:17,639
Speaker 2: they're gonna start drawing conclusions there. The evaluation process begins

1527
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 2: as soon as these guys get back in the building

1528
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 2: in April, and it does not stop until you get

1529
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 2: to the end of the preseason and the beginning of September.

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01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 1: Right.

1531
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just just how it works in this league.

1532
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no other way to slice it. So, yes,

1533
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 2: there will be evaluation in training camp, but that process

1534
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 2: will start long before then that.

1535
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 1: Leonard, Jim Leonard and his new staff as well as

1536
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:48,639
Speaker 1: the new offensive guys are gonna scour Bill's game tape

1537
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 1: and get to know these guys they're gonna want. In fact,

1538
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 1: they'll probably watch some practice tape. Yeah, you know, they'll

1539
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 1: watch them in practice, see what they did, how they worked,

1540
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 1: how they moved. They'll talk to him personally when they

1541
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 1: get when they get him in the building, some of

1542
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 1: the position coaches will probably reach out to their players

1543
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 1: as soon as they're hired, say hey, I'm here, I'm

1544
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 1: just this is me, this is my number, reach out

1545
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 1: to me, can't wait to meet in person, love to

1546
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 1: see let me know where near in town. We'll get

1547
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 1: together that you know that kind of stuff. Uh, it's

1548
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 1: it's a I mean, it's a huge part of the deal.

1549
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 1: And I you know this too. Joe Brady was a

1550
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 1: part of the McDermott thing. This culture that McDermott built,

1551
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 1: the culture was so good, it was great and you

1552
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 1: know all this it was kumbaya here a lot of

1553
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:49,839
Speaker 1: the time. Some of that, A lot of it is stellar.

1554
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 1: It was elite. For the first time in this franchise's history,

1555
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 1: you had a building and a culture that drew in

1556
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 1: got like Joey Bosa, like Leonard Floyd, Michael Hoyt, von Miller.

1557
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: Guys would were saying, you know what, I you know,

1558
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 1: this is a nice I do want to play here.

1559
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 1: This is great. I am having a good you know

1560
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:14,759
Speaker 1: this is a good experience for me. And you know what, dudes,

1561
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 1: I loved it in Buffalo. You should have been there.

1562
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,640
Speaker 1: They Joe Brady and the guys that are they're not

1563
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: gonna throw all that out because McDermott's not there to

1564
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 1: run it. They're gonna try and maintain and enhance it

1565
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 1: in every way they can think of. Uh, there's a

1566
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 1: lot of guys on this raw in this coaching staff

1567
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 1: that probably learned a lot from Sean McDermott, and they're

1568
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 1: gonna do their best to maintain that. Certainly they're gonna

1569
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 1: look for ways to improve it, but that's part of

1570
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:49,720
Speaker 1: the deal and these guys coming in getting to know,

1571
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:53,560
Speaker 1: these guys evaluating their own players. It's one of the

1572
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 1: things McDermott always said, they don't care how much you

1573
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 1: know until they know how much you care. And that's

1574
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:01,680
Speaker 1: that's an axiom that is still in this building. So

1575
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 1: Joe Brady's gonna do his best to enlighten his team.

1576
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 1: And these guys know too. They got to coach him,

1577
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 1: and it's not their first rodeo either, so they're gonna

1578
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 1: do what they think is best to get a handle

1579
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 1: on who they are and what's best, what best suits

1580
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 1: the way to coach each guy. So it's I mean,

1581
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 1: it is a mountain. It is a mountain of work

1582
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 1: to do, a mountain of work to do for all

1583
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 1: these guys coming out.

1584
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 2: Break time for us here, one final segment to go.

1585
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 2: We'll see what you have to say on the tweet

1586
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 2: sheet for some final thoughts when we return here on

1587
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health.

1588
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 4: It's Buffalo Bill's.

1589
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 2: Radio here on a Wednesday, and some final thoughts on

1590
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 2: the tweet sheet in terms of what you want to

1591
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:58,519
Speaker 2: hear from new defensive coordinator Jim Leonard. Jim says, what

1592
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 2: I'm hoping to hear is how this new staff deals

1593
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 2: with in game adjustments along with halftime adjustments. Yes, more

1594
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:08,680
Speaker 2: aggressive from the start, but what happens when you get

1595
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:10,600
Speaker 2: hit in the mouth. You know, you can have the

1596
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 2: best game plan you ever felt like it came up with,

1597
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 2: and then the opponent has a better one and you're

1598
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 2: down fourteen nothing.

1599
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't have any idea what this is going

1600
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 1: to look like, what players are going to be playing.

1601
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:25,640
Speaker 1: We're in the we're in the embryonic stage of this

1602
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 1: whole match.

1603
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 4: Our fifty cent word, Yeah.

1604
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 1: What is defensive philosophy is? And then we'll be able

1605
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 1: to discern from that if there's going to be any

1606
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:44,560
Speaker 1: players that carry over from the old defensive philosophy offensively.

1607
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's going to be off the

1608
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 1: table as a conversation piece until we get into training

1609
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 1: camp in the regular season. I mean, we'll keep an

1610
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 1: eye on the roster and all that, but we're not

1611
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 1: gonna you know, they've been doing it without a wide

1612
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 1: receiver room, you know, so to spe you know, this

1613
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 1: conversation has been going on with controversy, let's call it

1614
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:06,639
Speaker 1: at the wide receiver spot for two years, and they've

1615
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 1: been to the top five in the league. So nobody's

1616
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 1: going to lose any sweat over what happens over on

1617
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 1: that side of the ball. They led league in rushing

1618
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 1: last year and they got Josh Commons, So the offense

1619
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 1: is like like, it's like, hey, let's go what about it? Yeah,

1620
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 1: let's let's what about The defense is going to be

1621
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 1: the point of conversation and point of contention and the question,

1622
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 1: the big question going forward for the entire offseason, right

1623
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 1: all the way free agency and the draft.

1624
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 2: Billy says, I think an overall message of violence and

1625
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 2: controlled aggression from snap to whistle for sixty minutes a game.

1626
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:43,680
Speaker 4: I guess that's how he wants to hear.

1627
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 1: Jim.

1628
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:45,719
Speaker 4: He wants to pep characterize his defense.

1629
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 1: What's a pep talk?

1630
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 2: Well, go whatever it takes, let's go. Bob says, what

1631
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 2: about moving Bernard to the outside? Can they utilize him

1632
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 2: as a pass rusher? I don't know if he's long enough.

1633
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 2: He's six one and a half.

1634
01:26:58,040 --> 01:26:59,799
Speaker 1: Jorian Williams is a better pass rusher.

1635
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 4: I mean, if you want to deploy him. In some

1636
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 4: instances you might be able to do that. But he's

1637
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:08,679
Speaker 4: six two two thirty. He's not long either, So we'll see.

1638
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 2: These are all decisions that are gonna have to be

1639
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 2: called through and sifted out to decide.

1640
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 4: Is that a thumbs up or a thumbs down.

1641
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:17,759
Speaker 1: One of the reason things you might ask him, Brownie,

1642
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 1: because I don't like asking questions anything, but ask him

1643
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 1: what his physical parameters are for his inside linebackers and

1644
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 1: outside linebackers. Does he have yeah, does he have prototypes?

1645
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 1: You know, what are they?

1646
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 4: Everybody has prototypes.

1647
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 2: I just don't know if they're gonna spell out what

1648
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 2: those are, you know, competitive advantage and such.

1649
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 4: Don't want that getting out there.

1650
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 2: But Jim Leonard, offensive coordinator Pete Michael, Pete Carmichael, and

1651
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 2: special teams coordinator Jeff Rodgers all gonna address the media tomorrow.

1652
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 2: We'll have full coverage of those press conferences here on

1653
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 2: a Thursday edition of One Bill's Live.

1654
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 4: We'll see it one