WEBVTT - Almost Famous OG: Bye, Bob! With DS Billy and Rudy

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<v Speaker 1>This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi everybody, this is Trista And unfortunately I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>Bob here to join me this morning for the almost

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<v Speaker 2>Famous OG podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>He has a work obligation. But I am really.

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<v Speaker 2>Excited to talk to Billy and Rudy, who are two

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<v Speaker 2>of the four ds that ran the course My Special

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<v Speaker 2>Forces Course.

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<v Speaker 1>Season three Mark Billy Billingham is.

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<v Speaker 2>A decorated SAS soldier and led hostage rescues and received

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<v Speaker 2>the Queen's Commendation for bravery like these these guys, you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>they are hardcore, legit soldiers who I walked into this respecting,

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<v Speaker 2>but walked out of it respecting even more. Rodolfo Rudy

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<v Speaker 2>Reyaz is a decorated Special Forces operator, a former US

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<v Speaker 2>Marine Corps recon marine. He's also an actor, spokesperson and

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<v Speaker 2>a fitness role model. I mean those muscles have muscles. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really excited to talk to them about how they

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<v Speaker 2>got into their careers, what they saw kind of behind

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<v Speaker 2>the scenes on this show, any advice they could give.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to know all the things, and I

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<v Speaker 2>really wish I could do this in person. But Zoom

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<v Speaker 2>is the next best thing, and I'm really really excited

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<v Speaker 2>to welcome them to the almost Famous podcast. Hi, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to the Almost Famous OG podcast. And I say, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>hello staph.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, break body, you better hold yourself at the position

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<v Speaker 3>of attention.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying. I'm trying. How are you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so good to see you face to face and

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<v Speaker 2>not yelling at me and yeah, I'm sure you could

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<v Speaker 2>an instant.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I don't need to give you a reason.

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<v Speaker 4>We do well.

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<v Speaker 5>We're doing well, and you know you're doing well.

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<v Speaker 4>You look great.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I yeah, I mean that was the hardest thing I

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<v Speaker 2>ever did in my whole life, and you saw me

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of it, so you know, I life

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<v Speaker 2>is good.

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<v Speaker 1>Life is good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm home, I'm good, and I'm so excited to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you because I felt, like, you know, at the reunion,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of us were talking about how we hoped

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<v Speaker 2>that you guys would surprise us because because we wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to see you in person and actually give you a

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<v Speaker 2>hug and thank you and get to know you more

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<v Speaker 2>on a like one to one level. So I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>excited that I get the chance to do that. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>love to start out hearing from both of you on

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<v Speaker 2>how you got started in the military, like what what

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<v Speaker 2>what into your decision to join and make this your

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<v Speaker 2>career and your life, and what was your family his

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<v Speaker 2>take on it as well, because my son is contemplating

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<v Speaker 2>going into the military. He actually is considering Navy Seals

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<v Speaker 2>and so it's kind of part of my life. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to know your backgrounds in getting into it right.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, last start, so I was born in UK into

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<v Speaker 5>a family of five, not really a military family, although

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<v Speaker 5>my grandfather was in the RAF and he was actually

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<v Speaker 5>a guinea pig on Christmas Island when they dropped the

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<v Speaker 5>H bomb.

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<v Speaker 4>Whoa Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyway, so that he was in the RAF, My uncle

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<v Speaker 5>was in the RAF, and another uncle, my dad's brother,

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<v Speaker 5>was in Borneo in the war and was taken well,

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<v Speaker 5>not taking prisoner, but ambushed and most of his patrol

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<v Speaker 5>were killed and he went missing for something.

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<v Speaker 4>A jungle fight.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And so my sort of family link with the

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<v Speaker 5>military wasn't great if I'm honest, and my dad wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>really didn't really want anyway his siblings to go into

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<v Speaker 5>any of his children to go.

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<v Speaker 4>Into the military.

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<v Speaker 5>However, for me it was a lifesaver because as I

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<v Speaker 5>was growing up, I was a bad child. The age

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<v Speaker 5>of eleven, I was in a gang, was in juvenile

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<v Speaker 5>court for fighting, and I was gone wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>I had to.

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<v Speaker 5>I've got an older brother, older sister, younger. I'm a

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<v Speaker 5>middle child, and middle child was slightly different, and that's

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<v Speaker 5>a fact, and I was different. It was a loving family,

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<v Speaker 5>a very poor family, but I gravitated the wrong sign

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<v Speaker 5>and went towards gangs. Now I always say, you know

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<v Speaker 5>I was led by somebody else.

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<v Speaker 4>I knew what I was doing. I was a bad child.

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<v Speaker 5>Eleven years old. Thirteen, I got thrown out of school.

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<v Speaker 5>The glue in the mass, Yeah, yeah, because I thought

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<v Speaker 5>it's funny and it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you do?

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<v Speaker 4>I glued the mathematics teacher to the chair.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes it was funny at the time, but it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, he didn't take too lightly to that. I

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<v Speaker 5>got now spelled from school, So I had no education

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<v Speaker 5>after really thirteen, and I started working out illegally at

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<v Speaker 5>the age of fifteen, and then at fifteen my whole

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<v Speaker 5>life turned upside down. The gang warfare, fighting got crazy

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<v Speaker 5>and I got stabbed and nearly died. I got stabbed

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<v Speaker 5>in the back. And anyway, when I came round in

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<v Speaker 5>hospital and realized the pain I was causing to my

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<v Speaker 5>family because they were all at my bedside thinking I

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<v Speaker 5>was going to die, and I thought, got to change

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<v Speaker 5>my life. I've got to do something and get away

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<v Speaker 5>from this lifestyle. And I hold my hands up, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I you know, like you mother will say, he got in.

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<v Speaker 4>With the wrong people. I was the wrong people. We

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<v Speaker 4>all knew. I knew what I was doing.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyway, I joined the cadets, the military cadets, at the

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<v Speaker 5>age of eleven as well. So all through this time

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<v Speaker 5>I was boxing, I was getting trouble, I was in

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<v Speaker 5>trouble with the plane, nearly died, and I thought, right,

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<v Speaker 5>I need to get to the military. And at the

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<v Speaker 5>age of seventeen, I joined the parachute regiment. Seventy seven

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<v Speaker 5>zero of us turned up on day one, and I

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<v Speaker 5>was the youngest, the skinniest, and the cheekiest. And by

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<v Speaker 5>the end of the training there was only seven of

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<v Speaker 5>us left and I was one of seven. And then

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<v Speaker 5>in that you know when people say what did you learn,

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<v Speaker 5>I'll learn respect, I learned discipline. I remember on day

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<v Speaker 5>one looking at the instructor in front of me and thinking, wow,

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<v Speaker 5>I had so much respect for him already he hadn't

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<v Speaker 5>even opened his mouth, just the look of him and

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<v Speaker 5>knowing what he'd done. And I said to myself, this

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<v Speaker 5>is going to be hard, but there's no way I'm

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<v Speaker 5>going out that gate unless they've throwed me out or

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<v Speaker 5>I die. I want to be like that man there.

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<v Speaker 5>And that was at the start of my journey. So

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<v Speaker 5>I did nine years in the Airborne Infantry, the parachute Regiment.

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<v Speaker 5>I started to climb the ranks. I've been in conflict,

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<v Speaker 5>I've been tested, and I loved the job. I loved

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<v Speaker 5>what I was doing, you know, And I thought, where

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<v Speaker 5>don't go next? And then after nine years, I went

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<v Speaker 5>on what they call Special Forces selection sas selection Special

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<v Speaker 5>Air Service. Two hundred and eighty three of us started

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<v Speaker 5>on day one and that looking number against seven of

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<v Speaker 5>us finished and I went to my squadron, be squadron

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<v Speaker 5>and did amazing things all over the world. War fighting

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<v Speaker 5>and military is not all about fighting wars, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, believe it or not, very small percentage of

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<v Speaker 5>the military do fight wars. But I was in that

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<v Speaker 5>small percent. So from ninety two all the way up

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<v Speaker 5>to you know twenty ten. Really I was warfighting in

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<v Speaker 5>places all over Europe, Africa, Middle East. I know I

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<v Speaker 5>say war fights. I was stopping conflict because that's what

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<v Speaker 5>our job was, to stop being suffering.

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<v Speaker 4>And I loved what I was doing.

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<v Speaker 5>I loved the fact that I was sacrificing myself for

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<v Speaker 5>the benefit of others to give them a life and

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<v Speaker 5>give our people back home a life without the trauma

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<v Speaker 5>that we could and problems we could have had.

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<v Speaker 4>So I love the job. I love what I did.

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<v Speaker 5>Got decorated by the Queen, did amazing things. You know.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a crazy I described as a crazy train

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<v Speaker 5>that goes across the globe doing amazing things in war

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<v Speaker 5>and conflict and natural disasters. You get off, you do

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<v Speaker 5>amazing things, you get back on it, you never talk

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<v Speaker 5>about it, and then go again and hopefully you step

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<v Speaker 5>off the crazy train at the end and walk out

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<v Speaker 5>the games and go, oh, that was a life, that

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<v Speaker 5>was a career or Unfortunately a lot of my friends

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<v Speaker 5>didn't get the opportunity to do that. They yeah, would sacrifice.

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<v Speaker 5>But that was the world I was in and I

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<v Speaker 5>loved it. And then I left that and then went

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<v Speaker 5>in after the military and then went into bodyguard in

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<v Speaker 5>this crazy world.

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<v Speaker 4>I am right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that your story. I mean, that makes me

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<v Speaker 2>respect you on a whole other level. I've told you,

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<v Speaker 2>I told you, you know, during the experience learning just

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<v Speaker 2>the teeny tiny, the teeny tiny taste that I got

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<v Speaker 2>of what you both have given to your countries, your world,

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<v Speaker 2>my respect is was just elevated.

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<v Speaker 1>And just hearing your story.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know, like my mom wrote me, I had

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<v Speaker 2>q on the show and he shared a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>his story, and my mom texted me yesterday, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's like, I finally got to listen to qes

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<v Speaker 2>interview and I loved hearing his story.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you for sharing that. Rudy, what about you?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, some of the great things that Billy described,

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're kind of eternal to all the men

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<v Speaker 3>and women that serve. We believe in something bigger than ourselves,

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<v Speaker 3>something about a culture that has ethics, our core values.

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<v Speaker 3>In the Marine Corps, they are on our courage commitment

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<v Speaker 3>when you're a young man. I think we are designed

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<v Speaker 3>and pulled to believe in something bigger. It's the kind

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<v Speaker 3>of thing that happens because the right of passage, we

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<v Speaker 3>chose to find a right of passage and submit to

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<v Speaker 3>something bigger than ourselves so we could be something more

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<v Speaker 3>than ourselves. I have to tell you, I love my

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<v Speaker 3>country so much, and I love the Marine Corps so much,

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<v Speaker 3>and I love my veteran community because without it, I

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<v Speaker 3>would not be here. They gave me the greatest training,

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<v Speaker 3>They gave me the greatest confidence. They instilled a level

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<v Speaker 3>of discipline and toughness that you can get nowhere else.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, the Marine Corps is renowned for doing

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<v Speaker 3>two things, winning battles and making marines. That's all we do,

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<v Speaker 3>winning battles, making marines. So of the US military forces,

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<v Speaker 3>we are the aggressive shock troop. We're much smaller than

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<v Speaker 3>all the rest of the forces, and we're used to

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<v Speaker 3>doing things on our own expeditionary. They did not send

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<v Speaker 3>the US Army to go fight the Japanese. They didn't

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<v Speaker 3>send the Air Force or the Navy. It was the

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<v Speaker 3>US Marines that had to fight the Japanese because the

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<v Speaker 3>Japanese with bushido, would fight to the death from that

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<v Speaker 3>esteemed culture. Also, what makes our branch of service so

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<v Speaker 3>special too, is it is our history. It's not our equipment.

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<v Speaker 3>For the most part. I was an infantryman before I

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<v Speaker 3>tried out for reconing it through selection and became you know,

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<v Speaker 3>high speed low drag as they call us high speed

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<v Speaker 3>low Drag. It's not the equipment. We get most of

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<v Speaker 3>our stuff from hand me downs. Actually it's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>like when Billy describes in British military and specifically even

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<v Speaker 3>the sas they got a beg, borrow and steal to

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<v Speaker 3>make things happen. That's the Marine Corps. We don't complain,

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<v Speaker 3>we make do so that kind of can do attitude.

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<v Speaker 3>We create something called gung Ho, which means in the

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<v Speaker 3>spirit that actually comes. Everything in the Marine Corps is

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<v Speaker 3>about history. That history is what makes us special. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not the equipment. We do have a gorgeous dress uniform,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's the history. And gung Ho was from the

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<v Speaker 3>Box Rebellion when the Marines were fighting the Chinese turn

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<v Speaker 3>of the Sentry, and it means in the spirit everything

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<v Speaker 3>that ties us to a connection of bravery and history.

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<v Speaker 3>My personal hero is John Bassalone. He's an Italian American.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a soldier first in the army and he

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<v Speaker 3>started a truck driving business in the Philippines as a soldier.

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<v Speaker 3>Well World War Two started off, and so he wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to get his truck driving business again. But the only

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<v Speaker 3>place that would take him to Philippines was the Marine Corps.

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<v Speaker 3>Joins the Marine Corps. He fights the Japanese. He has

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<v Speaker 3>the Congressional Medal of Honor. He's being overrun and with

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<v Speaker 3>a water cool thirty cal machine gun in the cover

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<v Speaker 3>of darkness because there's mud and blood and charging Japanese bonds.

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<v Speaker 3>I charge after charge. He has to pick up the

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<v Speaker 3>gun with his arm and it melts through his flesh

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<v Speaker 3>down to his book. And he's got a rock and

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<v Speaker 3>roll and kill wave after wave of enemy. And when

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<v Speaker 3>the smoke clears in the morning, he runs out and

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<v Speaker 3>is pulling the bodies out of the way so he

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<v Speaker 3>has a clear sector of fire because this was going

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<v Speaker 3>to go on for days and weeks. So it's so badass.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you what. I'm so proud to be a

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<v Speaker 3>recon marine. You know, all of us in the Special

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<v Speaker 3>Forces world, we're close air support cats. You know, I

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<v Speaker 3>controlled the jets and the rotary wing and the helicopters.

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<v Speaker 3>We're paratroopers, we're combat divers, we're explosives experts, we're scout snipers.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got all these things that we do that we

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<v Speaker 3>bring to bear, to manicure the battlefield and the kick ass.

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<v Speaker 3>But boy to me, having the bravery to fight side

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<v Speaker 3>by side with your brothers, seeing all comers and taking

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<v Speaker 3>them down and never giving up and keeping in the spirit.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll never have an ego about some of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>all the metals on my chest and fighting in Afghanistan, Pakistan,

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<v Speaker 3>I rack Northeast Africa. I always look up to the

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<v Speaker 3>generation that came before. So you know, even in our program,

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<v Speaker 3>even here for sas and special Forces, reason why we

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<v Speaker 3>push ourselves so hard and give you everything we got

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<v Speaker 3>and why we're so hard on you, It's because we

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<v Speaker 3>love you and we love the process and we know

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<v Speaker 3>it makes good strong men and women. That's what the

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<v Speaker 3>military means to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what a story. Okay, So when they approached

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<v Speaker 2>you to do the show, did either of you why

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<v Speaker 2>are you laughing?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we just love this stuff so much.

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<v Speaker 1>To be honest, I'm like, are you laughing at me?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, We're just laughing really at the joy that

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<v Speaker 3>we just love so much and every time we show up.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Phillie, I think this is our eleventh season

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<v Speaker 3>coming up, Me and you together and everyone. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>time when the aches and the pains and the arthritis

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<v Speaker 3>and mate, I think this is my last one.

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<v Speaker 4>Mate.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, afterwards we get wait to do it again.

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<v Speaker 3>We're like, yeah, we're gonna go again.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you guys meet.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually on the show.

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<v Speaker 5>So this show, believe it or not, we started in

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<v Speaker 5>the UK around about two fifteen sixteen. It started off

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<v Speaker 5>with non celebrities, just men. Then after about a couple

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<v Speaker 5>of seasons there's non celebrities men and women. Then it

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<v Speaker 5>went from non celebrities men and women to celebrities and

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<v Speaker 5>then we did back to it.

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<v Speaker 4>So we want to.

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<v Speaker 3>Encourage you to see it too.

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<v Speaker 1>I did, I did. I watched it before.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not playing around. They're not playing around.

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<v Speaker 5>Around on yours either, So that's where it started.

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<v Speaker 4>So that started.

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<v Speaker 5>And the guy that was acting chief instructor if you like,

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<v Speaker 5>he left, was asked to leave, and then they needed

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<v Speaker 5>a replacement and Rudy looks a bit like him as well. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>they scouted out Rudy and okay, you know him, and

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<v Speaker 5>it made sense because a lot of the questions, well,

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<v Speaker 5>what's that got to do with British Special Forces. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>British Special Force American Special Forces have been side by

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<v Speaker 5>side for the last thirty years. Find the warrant, so

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<v Speaker 5>it made sense. So that's where we met he. Rudy

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<v Speaker 5>came in, replaced the guy that was moved on, and

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<v Speaker 5>it was we're just it's a military thing. As you'll

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<v Speaker 5>find that camarader you've built with you guys on that show.

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<v Speaker 5>You love that forever. You'll literally be able to pick

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<v Speaker 5>up the phone in five years time speak to one

0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:39.960
<v Speaker 5>of the girls of Guys and go and pick up

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<v Speaker 5>exactly like you were back in the accommodation.

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<v Speaker 4>We met him.

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<v Speaker 5>I've never met him before in my life. We fought

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<v Speaker 5>on the same battlegrounds all while in the world. That

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<v Speaker 5>never even knew that obviously, and then it was just

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<v Speaker 5>like the Camaradi, the dark Banter, the last and it

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<v Speaker 5>just kicked in straight away, and that's how we've met,

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<v Speaker 5>That's how we've bonded, and it's gone forward since then.

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<v Speaker 5>And then it was just the UK version initially. Then

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<v Speaker 5>I'll just come to America, break into the American market.

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<v Speaker 4>If you like, and we make all you guys.

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<v Speaker 5>And so now We've got two Americans, two Brits and

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<v Speaker 5>it works great. If you can see behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 5>what it's really like, you would love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I would die. I want that so bad.

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<v Speaker 5>It's so deep and dark, and we absolutely bust each other. Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>every second of every you know, you wouldn't believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I believe it. I can only imagine, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it makes us laugh and keeps us going too,

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<v Speaker 3>because as hard as we're working, you all, believe it

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<v Speaker 3>or not, we're working twice as hard. We're at that

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<v Speaker 3>working you and taking care of you because we're your

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<v Speaker 3>range safety officers too. You know, we're life savers as well,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're planning course and we're observing so that we're

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<v Speaker 3>taking notes so that we can really do the profession right.

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<v Speaker 3>Whenever you all get a chance to lay down in

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<v Speaker 3>the rack, we're right at work. We're freaking running data,

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<v Speaker 3>we're getting freaking information, and then we're going to prayer

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<v Speaker 3>rooms and we are in it and it's.

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<v Speaker 5>All about giving you the best journey that we can

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<v Speaker 5>totally every you know, it's based on all our experiences

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<v Speaker 5>and time that was serving, all the lessons learned and

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<v Speaker 5>failed and got right and wrong. It's about giving that

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<v Speaker 5>to you in that short period of time. That's why

0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:26.159
<v Speaker 5>it feels to you you haven't got time to scratch

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<v Speaker 5>your ass. You like, one minute, you don't know what's

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<v Speaker 5>going on. We haven't got time to explain it. But

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<v Speaker 5>there's a reason behind everything that we do physically, mentally

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<v Speaker 5>and emotionally. We're trying to get the best out of you, guys.

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<v Speaker 5>It doesn't feel like it. It feels like we're trying

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<v Speaker 5>to kill you. Yeah, that's a bill at times, you

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<v Speaker 5>know them in a scenario, which is how it has

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<v Speaker 5>to be. Yes, But we're giving you, you know, over

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<v Speaker 5>one hundred years of experience combined in ten days.

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<v Speaker 4>We haven't got time.

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<v Speaker 5>So everything you do, even that, the silent periods of

0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:55.359
<v Speaker 5>sitting around wondering what's going on, there's a reason behind

0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:59.040
<v Speaker 5>that totally to allow you to think and taking information

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<v Speaker 5>and deal with process things. And then we again if

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<v Speaker 5>you go again, so you know, all lot speeds will

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<v Speaker 5>put together all the time to give you the best

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<v Speaker 5>experience that we come.

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<v Speaker 3>It's right on trist The truth is at the baseline,

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<v Speaker 3>we care about each and every one of you. It

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<v Speaker 3>really is a point of pride and honor to give

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<v Speaker 3>everything we possibly can to you for your self development.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's just our process is a rough, rugged and

0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:32.600
<v Speaker 3>hard process, but we care and that's why we give

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<v Speaker 3>you everything we got. Billy says it. Every time you

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<v Speaker 3>will leave that course whenever that is a better version

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<v Speaker 3>of yourself, and you will look back for the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of your life about lessons that you learned on that course.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's incredible. I'm very thankful that I can be

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<v Speaker 3>a part of that. I really really love the work.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you should, you should be proud of it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing. It's such an amazing show. I am so thankful,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, even though I was only there for two days,

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<v Speaker 2>I really feel just grateful to have been part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Because when they first asked me, I was like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>hell no.

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<v Speaker 1>Like why would I do that? I'm fifty one years

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<v Speaker 1>old and why would I do that?

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<v Speaker 3>So I look like a wet rat. You look like

0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:24.960
<v Speaker 3>a wet rat coming off of that that beach. Her

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<v Speaker 3>hair was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like like stringy and in my face, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was the hardest thing that I have ever done.

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<v Speaker 3>We thought you were done right there on that beach.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember we were in your ass. We were in your face.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't want to be here. Come on, gill yourself up, babe,

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<v Speaker 3>but give me, give me the arm bend. I kept going,

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<v Speaker 3>that's grown.

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<v Speaker 2>No, even though I was gonna, I was gonna faint.

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<v Speaker 2>And I walked up to you, Rudy, and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm gonna faint. I My body is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at its limit. I think I'm gonna fainted. To see

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<v Speaker 2>the medic and You're like, okay, are you ready to

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<v Speaker 2>go home? And I said, well, no, I'm not ready

0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:06.399
<v Speaker 2>to go home, but I feel like I'm going to faint.

0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:07.840
<v Speaker 2>And You're like, well, you have to give me your

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<v Speaker 2>arm ban and I was like, nope, I'm keeping going

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm a victory.

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<v Speaker 1>I kept going, but it was not easy.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, we can get into this later, but

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get back to the behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you guys are in your accommodations, do you

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<v Speaker 2>have access or the producers giving you like kind of

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<v Speaker 2>snippets of our conversations that we're having.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you don't see anything.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, we're not allowed to because it then becomes kind

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<v Speaker 5>of biased. We only see what we see in front

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<v Speaker 5>of us. So when you're in front of us and

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<v Speaker 5>your reactions and I perform and that's all we see you.

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<v Speaker 5>When you go back into your accommodations or you're not

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<v Speaker 5>in view of us, we don't. We don't listen to you.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't.

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<v Speaker 5>We're not allowed to. We're not allowed to know what's

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<v Speaker 5>going on. We don't know your stories, your backstories. So

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<v Speaker 5>when we do the mirror room, that literally is the

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<v Speaker 5>first time we get to know who you really are

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<v Speaker 5>and what you're growing up was, like, what your problems are,

0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:09.000
<v Speaker 5>you know, all your issues, all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>We're not allowed to know anything. If we've done a

0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:14.480
<v Speaker 5>mirror room with you and you've not really opened up

0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:16.520
<v Speaker 5>or told us anything. When we've tried to answer, you've

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<v Speaker 5>skirted around questions, we may call you in for a

0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:21.439
<v Speaker 5>second mirror room, and then we do.

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<v Speaker 4>They do get.

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<v Speaker 5>Opportunity to do what they call open source, so they'll say, okay,

0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:27.119
<v Speaker 5>you can have the computer for like five minutes to

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<v Speaker 5>google their name, see what comes up.

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<v Speaker 4>So then the second interview, if we'd feel we haven't.

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<v Speaker 5>Got anything out of you, you haven't really opened up

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<v Speaker 5>to us, and we'll we'll do that, you know, and

0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:41.440
<v Speaker 5>obviously a can google anyone's name today and there's information

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<v Speaker 5>whatever it is, you know, relationships, financial problems, whatever, good things,

0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:48.760
<v Speaker 5>bad things. So then we become pretty bombed for the

0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:51.879
<v Speaker 5>second interview with you, so we won't even mention it

0:22:51.920 --> 0:22:53.840
<v Speaker 5>until we fill the times right. We'll give you an

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<v Speaker 5>opportunity to tell us about so what is your relationship

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<v Speaker 5>with like with your family, and you don't want to,

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<v Speaker 5>and then we'll go actually, you know from source it

0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:04.960
<v Speaker 5>says that you've had it, and then it breaks down

0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:07.720
<v Speaker 5>that barrier one more time and then it's that mirror

0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:10.320
<v Speaker 5>room is amazing how it gets people to open up

0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:13.560
<v Speaker 5>and get rid of everything that's a noise to you

0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:15.760
<v Speaker 5>and becoming a problem because we've all got it. Everybody's

0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:19.800
<v Speaker 5>got different lifestyles, we've all got the same issues, financial relationships,

0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:23.240
<v Speaker 5>whatever it is, and that mirror room is great for

0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:24.120
<v Speaker 5>cutting that way.

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<v Speaker 4>Let it drop and then go feel free and step

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<v Speaker 4>out of the room.

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<v Speaker 5>And then we see a different version of that person

0:23:30.080 --> 0:23:33.840
<v Speaker 5>that came in the room after that, because else they

0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:37.600
<v Speaker 5>can now really you know, they've dropped all the vulnerabilities.

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<v Speaker 4>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 5>Now we build up and that was it. That's the

0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:46.159
<v Speaker 5>process we're trying to get not to be noisy or

0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:50.159
<v Speaker 5>intrusive into your life. It's hey, it doesn't matter. No

0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:53.960
<v Speaker 5>one really cares. The only the only people that person

0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:56.320
<v Speaker 5>making this a problem is you. And what we need

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<v Speaker 5>to stand that and drop that no one, no one

0:23:58.840 --> 0:23:59.480
<v Speaker 5>cares about.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's see who the real.

0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:04.240
<v Speaker 5>You is we've got. We're now going to rebuild your character.

0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:05.880
<v Speaker 5>We don't break it down.

0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:08.200
<v Speaker 4>We'll peel you back and then.

0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:12.720
<v Speaker 5>Let's say vulnerability because we only there's only one way

0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:15.560
<v Speaker 5>to go, and that's up and everybody does. Now gone

0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:17.520
<v Speaker 5>back to yourself, and you probably think I only lasted

0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:21.960
<v Speaker 5>two days. Two days is a great journey every It's

0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:25.320
<v Speaker 5>an individual journey for everybody. You've got yourself, You've got

0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:28.320
<v Speaker 5>young super athletes and you know, how can that be fair? Well,

0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:31.080
<v Speaker 5>it's not fair. It is fair because we expect the

0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:34.320
<v Speaker 5>super fit athletes to do things quicker than you would do.

0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:36.919
<v Speaker 5>You do exactly the same as everybody else, and your

0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:38.880
<v Speaker 5>journey may not be as long as theirs, but your

0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:42.639
<v Speaker 5>journey is just as good. For your two days, that is,

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:45.800
<v Speaker 5>you completed the course. That's all you needed to do.

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:47.760
<v Speaker 5>You found out a lot about yourself. You did things

0:24:47.800 --> 0:24:50.000
<v Speaker 5>that you never thought you could do, you know, in

0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:52.200
<v Speaker 5>that short period of time. And that's what it's all about.

0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:55.480
<v Speaker 5>You went physically beyond something you've probably never done for

0:24:55.480 --> 0:25:01.400
<v Speaker 5>the last ten years. Mentally inside your head. You wanted

0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:03.639
<v Speaker 5>to give them all we've all got. That's natural, and

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:05.520
<v Speaker 5>we wouldn't let you give up because we knew you

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:08.119
<v Speaker 5>wasn't ready. You thought you were, but you weren't. Like

0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:10.920
<v Speaker 5>you said you felt faint. You didn't faint, did you,

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:13.399
<v Speaker 5>but you and you got up and went again. You know,

0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:16.679
<v Speaker 5>the image things. We're not interested in image. We're not

0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:20.000
<v Speaker 5>interested as the fastest, the fittest. Now, we're interested in you,

0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 5>who really are you? And yes, you do find that out,

0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:26.440
<v Speaker 5>whether it's in one day or ten days, that's right.

0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:29.520
<v Speaker 5>And it's like that's why I always say it's it's

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:32.400
<v Speaker 5>a great journey for everybody you do. No matter where

0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:35.680
<v Speaker 5>you leave, you walk off away from it a better

0:25:35.760 --> 0:25:38.240
<v Speaker 5>version of yourself and always wishing you.

0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 4>Could do it again or do a bit more.

0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:44.120
<v Speaker 5>And that's that's life. And that's very much the military

0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:45.360
<v Speaker 5>way of life. That's exactly one.

0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:47.400
<v Speaker 4>And the other thing you'll take from this, I think I've.

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 5>Already said, is the cameraade you've built now is exactly

0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:53.080
<v Speaker 5>the same as the military. You know that we're in

0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 5>this together, and it's it's a great thing.

0:25:55.840 --> 0:26:00.000
<v Speaker 3>It is a Tricia. What's so rad for us professionally

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 3>as directing staff and as military professionals. You know, we've

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 3>worked with people all around the world. We have been

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:15.919
<v Speaker 3>in peacekeeping missions or conflict. We've been solving problems for

0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:22.480
<v Speaker 3>getting a basic resources to villages, or doing medical or

0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:26.560
<v Speaker 3>snatch and grab missions and direct action. We've been up

0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:29.520
<v Speaker 3>and down in every way possible in the human condition,

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:33.480
<v Speaker 3>with all kinds of languages, all kinds of cultures. We

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:37.360
<v Speaker 3>really get to know people. We're masters at people. They

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 3>give us no dossier. They trust that we have the

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:45.040
<v Speaker 3>ability with our observation and our passion to when we

0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:48.840
<v Speaker 3>receive you all. And you know, Billy, he's from the UK.

0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:52.440
<v Speaker 3>He don't know any of you Americans, you Yanks, you know,

0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:57.680
<v Speaker 3>you don't know a day. Yeah, I know some of you.

0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 3>I know some of you right But the whole point

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:03.600
<v Speaker 3>is that we don't care about your name, or your brand,

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:07.399
<v Speaker 3>or your background or your history. We're going to find

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:11.399
<v Speaker 3>out who you are right here, right now. Why, because

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:14.760
<v Speaker 3>that's what you're here for. We're here for you so

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:17.920
<v Speaker 3>that you can be yourself. And how do you become yourself?

0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:22.199
<v Speaker 3>We blow torch you're freaking past off of you. We

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:27.040
<v Speaker 3>put you in in We make you exhausted and tired, wet,

0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:32.120
<v Speaker 3>sandy and cold. We make you failure. Pretty soon all

0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:35.239
<v Speaker 3>of the masks fall away and we get to know you.

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:39.200
<v Speaker 3>It is awesome for you. It's awesome for us because

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 3>we really, at the bottom line, want to see your growth.

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:46.400
<v Speaker 3>And I love this program for that. It makes our

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:51.000
<v Speaker 3>military look formitable, which it is because what we can

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:54.240
<v Speaker 3>do we're all in our fifties and sixties now, it

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:58.439
<v Speaker 3>makes us professional and ultimately you look at the US

0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 3>and the UK military, you can see that we love

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 3>our people and our countrymen. So I just I just

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:07.439
<v Speaker 3>adore this program. This is my right hand man. I

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 3>bounce off of this guy. He bounces off of me Fox.

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 3>He's always prickly, but you know, always big and strong,

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:15.960
<v Speaker 3>and Q is just happy to be there.

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:21.320
<v Speaker 6>It's a really really awesome trist and everybody gets so

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:24.159
<v Speaker 6>much more out of it than they recognize, and it

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 6>takes days and weeks months later they will reach out

0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 6>to us.

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, this really impacted me. So that's what

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:33.120
<v Speaker 3>I love it.

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, after being first asked and saying hell no,

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 2>I really was like, you know what, I need to

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 2>think about this for a minute and watch the show

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 2>and watch the UK versions. And one of my I mean,

0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 2>my goal honestly was to get to the end. I

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 2>really truly wanted to get to the end. But one

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:05.560
<v Speaker 2>of the other ones was like, if I feel like,

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 2>like if I get hurt or whatever, I want to

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 2>get to the mirror room because I know that that's

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 2>where like the the good stuff happens. You know, that's

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 2>where the growth happens. I at least that was my

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 2>my perspective in watching the show was that where was

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 2>where the growth happens. And I was so thankful that

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 2>day to get that conversation, that one on one, one,

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:29.479
<v Speaker 2>one on one time with you guys, and you know,

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:31.760
<v Speaker 2>in hearing like it's just gonna get harder, It's just

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 2>gonna get harder.

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:33.640
<v Speaker 1>It's just gonna get harder.

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 5>And then.

0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Waking up the next morning and having you know, basically

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 2>bombs exploding all around me, I was like, Okay, I.

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Don't know that my heart, you know, I actually had.

0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 2>This like peace come over me and I thought, you

0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 2>know what, I have gotten so much out of just

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 2>my short two days that I'm okay. I don't want

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 2>to be a burden anymore. I just didn't want to

0:29:58.080 --> 0:30:00.480
<v Speaker 2>be a burden. I didn't want Golden to have to

0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 2>carry my pack anymore. I didn't want Cam to have

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 2>to run after me and get my pack so he

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 2>could help me into the vehicle. I didn't want Christy

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:10.480
<v Speaker 2>have to you know, blow hot, like she was literally

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 2>blowing her breath on me to heat me up when

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 2>I was hypothermic, and I.

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Was like, you know what, it's okay.

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 2>So in those moments when we come to you and

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 2>we're ready to give up, or you're seeing someone struggle,

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 2>I you guys are human, you have families at home.

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 2>You know you're carrying people. You're doing this to get

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 2>us to be better humans. But is there ever a

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 2>time where you're like, how do you handle your emotions

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 2>when someone you know, like when I came to you

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:44.960
<v Speaker 2>on the beach and I'm like, I think I'm gonna faint.

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:47.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I can do it, And you're like, well,

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 2>you know you want to quit, and I'm like, no,

0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:53.400
<v Speaker 2>is there ever a time that or can you talk

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 2>to us about how you handle your emotions when when

0:30:56.560 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 2>people are really really struggling and you have to kind

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 2>of continue to be that yeah, tough love. You know,

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm trying to say, Like I I

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 2>assume you have emotions, you know when people are struggling.

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 5>First, we're not there to break or hurt anybody. We're

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:19.000
<v Speaker 5>there to push you in order to get the best

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 5>out of somebody you've got. It's gonna be uncomfortable, it's

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 5>gonna hurt, it's easy. If it's gonna be easy, it's

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 5>not worth having anyway. So yeah, from our side, now

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 5>we have hale that emotion. I'm no fool, and we

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 5>watch it and we think, you know, we know when

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 5>your breaking point would be. We know if you at

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 5>that moment, we'd have already discussed. We're ready for that.

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 5>Conversations take place to go. Yep, you're right, you've done.

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's did you hand your arm band to me?

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:47.600
<v Speaker 3>You did, didn't you? And if you can, I remember

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 3>because remember it was early morning. Yeah, we're and we're

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 3>getting our day started for training, and you called me

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 3>down there. I took a moment though, I really, really

0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 3>looked in your eyes and asked, is just really what

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 3>you want to do? Because I didn't. We didn't want

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 3>you to go. We weren't ready to go at that point.

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 5>Yes, But back to the emotions thing. So, so it's

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 5>based over experience. We've had a lot of experience of

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 5>training people, working with people, dealing with situations that I

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 5>wouldn't want anybody to have to deal.

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 4>With ever again, you know, So we've got a lot

0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 4>of experience.

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 5>So it's all based on the knowledge and experience that

0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 5>we have got of how we handle ourselves, how we

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 5>sort of present ourselves to you to get to the

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 5>next level or not to the next level. You know,

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 5>sometimes we can be a little bit it feels a

0:32:34.040 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 5>little bit brutal. Sometimes it has to be that way now,

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 5>But like I say, as I've already said, it's a

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 5>personal journey for everybody. And we know when you're about

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:45.360
<v Speaker 5>to almost stop. We know what you We know and

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 5>you don't is we know what's coming next, You've no idea.

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 5>So we've been looking at you and thinking Christian's given

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 5>all that she's got. She's physically drained, she's mentally trained,

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:56.160
<v Speaker 5>she's got as much out of this as probably she's

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 5>gonna get there's no point in doing what's coming next,

0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:01.480
<v Speaker 5>which you don't know what, because all we're gonna do.

0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:03.000
<v Speaker 3>Is you're going to go backwards.

0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:04.400
<v Speaker 4>You're now going to.

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 5>Go yeah, and that's and I think we're great judges

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 5>of that, and that all comes down to emotion. And

0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 5>now we talk to you how we deal with things,

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 5>and sometimes it does brutal, but sometimes it has to be.

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 5>And there are times where you know, we we're human beings.

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 5>We can see at that point and you need that

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 5>little bit more reassurance. Arm around the show and say hey, listen,

0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 5>you can go a little bit more or you can't

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:31.600
<v Speaker 5>go a little So we we're judges and that's all

0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 5>based on all the experiences and touch word, I don't

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 5>think I've got it wrong yet, you know, I haven't

0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:40.480
<v Speaker 5>screamed at somebody for the wrong reasons or give that

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 5>bit of comfort when I've been played, which I never

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:46.719
<v Speaker 5>will be, et cetera. So it's it's it's been able

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:51.680
<v Speaker 5>based on knowledge and experience, true experience of knowing when

0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 5>to be soft approach, a hard approach, a midway approach,

0:33:57.280 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 5>and yeah, so it but you know, you know there

0:33:59.800 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 5>are I don't think I don't know I've got it wrong.

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 5>I think we've got it right every time. You know,

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 5>I've never gone to a plank of thinking I should

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 5>have stopped it there. Yeah, even the million, even the million,

0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:13.279
<v Speaker 5>you know million, Yeah, no one's going to get hurt.

0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:18.280
<v Speaker 5>That's what happens. It does happen now without giving any spoilers.

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:20.879
<v Speaker 5>You know, you've got people who have smashed it out

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:22.480
<v Speaker 5>of the park and then go and trip over a

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 5>wire on the way back to the accommodation, and that

0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:29.239
<v Speaker 5>was their journey, do you know what I'm saying. So,

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:31.839
<v Speaker 5>but in terms of looking at you and being us,

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 5>being emotional being, it's it's just based on experience and

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 5>we're watching it. You know.

0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:39.920
<v Speaker 4>What you don't see.

0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 5>Is like I'll be keeping an eye on twisted or

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 5>keeping eyes on golden. You know, we're seeing people coming

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:47.920
<v Speaker 5>to that point there where they're about to break and

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 5>we don't want to break in. But okay, so that

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 5>is when we'll eave a change direction for you, make

0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:54.200
<v Speaker 5>you do something different, or say something, pull you apart,

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:56.359
<v Speaker 5>or stop the exercise or you know.

0:34:57.120 --> 0:34:59.839
<v Speaker 4>So it's all rambled.

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:01.920
<v Speaker 5>A bit there, it's but it's it's generally, it's knowledge

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:04.400
<v Speaker 5>and experience gained over thirty years of being in the

0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 5>military for sure.

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:10.800
<v Speaker 3>And Tristan, we're instructors too. We have been instructors for

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 3>men that are going through selection, jungle course, scout, sniper already,

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 3>men that are completely physically mentally switched on and committed,

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:24.359
<v Speaker 3>and some of them don't even make it. So we

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:28.200
<v Speaker 3>learn how to observe the human experience and we can

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 3>see what's coming. We're going to squeeze every little bit

0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:34.840
<v Speaker 3>out of you for your benefit and at the same time,

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:39.320
<v Speaker 3>if you're vulnerable, because every night we have our prayers

0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:43.320
<v Speaker 3>where we assess every single one of you deeply, honestly,

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:48.919
<v Speaker 3>and we will manicure how we approach each and each

0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:52.320
<v Speaker 3>and every recruit or what team evolutions we put together.

0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 3>For a reason now it seems chaotic to you all

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:59.279
<v Speaker 3>out there, there is a method to the madness. There

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 3>is a reason behind everything we do. Not to say

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 3>that we not to say that we are not flexible,

0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 3>because sometimes storms come in, locations are washed out, vehicles breakdown.

0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 3>We can pivot. That's what makes us so special. But

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 3>there's a method to the madness, and it must seem

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:23.239
<v Speaker 3>chaotic on your end, But yeah, how we know what

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:23.760
<v Speaker 3>we're doing.

0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:28.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean we know you know what you're doing.

0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:32.919
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I wouldn't have felt as safe as

0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:35.360
<v Speaker 2>I did if I didn't feel that. You know, I

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:42.080
<v Speaker 2>have a huge, massive fear of open water in normal life,

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:45.239
<v Speaker 2>and watching the show with my husband, he was like,

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:47.080
<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't have done that with me, Like, if it

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 2>was just us, I wouldn't have done it. And it's

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 2>not that I don't feel safe with my husband. I

0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:54.520
<v Speaker 2>just feel like all of the years of experience and

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:58.640
<v Speaker 2>everything that you've done, I just was like, oh, sure,

0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:03.400
<v Speaker 2>I'll jump from a movie boat speed boat to a helicopter.

0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Sure, why not?

0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:07.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm gonna end up in probably open water,

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:08.840
<v Speaker 2>but hey, why not?

0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 1>Why don't we understand this? So so yeah, I.

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Felt safe the whole time and I really didn't even

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 2>think about my fears, which is so crazy to me.

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 2>I just got back from Orlando. I do not ride

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:31.480
<v Speaker 2>roller coasters in normal life, Okay, I just don't. I'm

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:34.120
<v Speaker 2>not like a risk taker. I'm not that kind of person.

0:37:34.880 --> 0:37:37.040
<v Speaker 2>I was like, you know what, I freaking just did

0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Special Forces. I'm going to go on some roller coasters.

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:43.960
<v Speaker 2>So I went on roller coasters and you got to

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:47.360
<v Speaker 2>experience that with my daughter. Like so there's little wins,

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:49.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, in my life because of it.

0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 1>So thank you.

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 3>Sure that's a window into our world. You just really

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 3>what you just described there is the life of a

0:37:56.280 --> 0:38:00.040
<v Speaker 3>military man or woman when we're going through training so

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:03.279
<v Speaker 3>many of these things. I've never even seen a helicopter really,

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:07.320
<v Speaker 3>but first the first time I'm doing helo operations. I'd

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 3>never been on a feaking warship before. But when we

0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:15.080
<v Speaker 3>rock up, that means when we show up, we do

0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:17.359
<v Speaker 3>what we're told, and we execute. We don't even think

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:20.840
<v Speaker 3>of the fear. We don't even think about anything except

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:25.400
<v Speaker 3>checking equipment and doing exactly what you're told. And after

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 3>you do that for a couple of months or years,

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:31.799
<v Speaker 3>you break down that whole element of fear. If you're

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:34.960
<v Speaker 3>prepared and you trust in your equipment and you trust

0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:38.719
<v Speaker 3>in yourself, the fear is gone and you can execute.

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:42.840
<v Speaker 3>That's that's really what it's about for us. It's not

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:47.240
<v Speaker 3>like some kind of superpower. It's it's first, we believe

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:50.720
<v Speaker 3>in our training, believe in our equipment. That's the case

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:54.120
<v Speaker 3>we're executing, and and and you'll.

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 5>Do all these crazy things that you know, like you said,

0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:59.200
<v Speaker 5>you wouldn't do it with your husband or your family members.

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 4>That's life. It's like somebody else will be.

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 5>Able to control your children better than you, not bring

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 5>them up as parents, but you know what your children

0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 5>are naughty children can wrap you around the things like

0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:16.719
<v Speaker 5>my kids said, they descry me, My grandkid terrorized, you know.

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:20.280
<v Speaker 5>But somebody else can control your kids. You know, somebody

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:22.279
<v Speaker 5>else will tell them and you see them doing all

0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:23.680
<v Speaker 5>sorts of things for somebody else, but they won't do

0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 5>it for your parents. That's a bit like you and

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 5>your husband. You want you to do it like no

0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:30.080
<v Speaker 5>y because you can tell him no, but you can't

0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:31.080
<v Speaker 5>tell us no.

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:32.720
<v Speaker 3>That's right, that's the difference.

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:33.799
<v Speaker 4>So you are going to do it.

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 1>That's so true.

0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:39.920
<v Speaker 5>That's how you do grow. It's a classic cliche. Be

0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:44.560
<v Speaker 5>get comfortable with being uncomfortable because it is worth doing.

0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:47.480
<v Speaker 5>Really is not going to be easy. It's gonna it's

0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:50.200
<v Speaker 5>gonna take some time, some effort, but it's worth it.

0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:52.279
<v Speaker 5>You know the benefits of doing something that you didn't

0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:54.759
<v Speaker 5>think you could do, or going through that freezing cold

0:39:54.840 --> 0:39:57.040
<v Speaker 5>water and doing because you didn't want to, but.

0:39:56.960 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 4>You've done it. It's just a greatfulness ye can do that.

0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:04.040
<v Speaker 5>You know it's but when you're being pushed by somebody

0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:07.279
<v Speaker 5>from the outside, it's easier or more likely to get

0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 5>done than it is when you know, I can't tell

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:12.040
<v Speaker 5>my wife when not tell my wife run with me.

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:17.239
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, I can't have my woman to do a damn

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:18.400
<v Speaker 3>thing brother.

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 5>Me.

0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:27.320
<v Speaker 1>So that's awesome. Oh, I want to meet them.

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:30.680
<v Speaker 3>Interrogations you ought to tell you gotta see the interrogations

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:31.839
<v Speaker 3>we go through at home.

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:34.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, I'm sure.

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:39.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So, is there any advice that either you've been

0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:43.040
<v Speaker 2>given that was amazing advice or that you've you give

0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:47.719
<v Speaker 2>to people, anyone who's watching, anyone in the future who

0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:51.120
<v Speaker 2>would do the show. Any advice that you can give

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:55.319
<v Speaker 2>all of us to get through those difficult times, you know,

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:59.920
<v Speaker 2>to keep pushing forward and and survive and thrive.

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:02.919
<v Speaker 5>Something you've heard a million times. But I've always been told,

0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:08.200
<v Speaker 5>never be afraid to fail. You're only failing by talking

0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:10.920
<v Speaker 5>yourself out of doing something that I have failed so

0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 5>many things, so many times, but by attempting to do

0:41:14.680 --> 0:41:18.279
<v Speaker 5>something that you ain't really happy and comfortable about. If

0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:20.239
<v Speaker 5>you don't reach that goal, it doesn't matter what you

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:22.279
<v Speaker 5>have do. He stepped over a threshold and you've opened

0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:25.960
<v Speaker 5>up new avenues. So just don't be afraid and worry

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:29.600
<v Speaker 5>about not reaching your goals every time. Still go for it.

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:33.719
<v Speaker 5>Always listen to people who've got experience and advice, and

0:41:33.800 --> 0:41:36.520
<v Speaker 5>without you know, being disrespectful. Well, are hear what you're saying.

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:39.879
<v Speaker 5>But I'm going to try anyway, try and always keep

0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:44.239
<v Speaker 5>trying to do reach reach something that's difficult. And as

0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:45.920
<v Speaker 5>I say, if you don't make it, it doesn't matter because

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:46.799
<v Speaker 5>and that's why I end up.

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:48.480
<v Speaker 4>I never wanted to be on TV, I.

0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:50.960
<v Speaker 5>Never wanted to be doing But by going for something

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:52.600
<v Speaker 5>else I was a bodyguard, then all of a sudden,

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:55.680
<v Speaker 5>all these avenues open up to me. You know, So

0:41:56.800 --> 0:42:01.200
<v Speaker 5>never never be afraid. And actually by failing at building resilience,

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:03.080
<v Speaker 5>it's making you better. But what I would say is,

0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:06.279
<v Speaker 5>when you're attempting to achieve something, if you're failing, and

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:08.880
<v Speaker 5>you're failing and you're feeling it's almost the same reason

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:09.800
<v Speaker 5>for failing, then.

0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:11.399
<v Speaker 4>That's not a.

0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:15.920
<v Speaker 5>You know, that's not a problem a mistake, then it's

0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:16.760
<v Speaker 5>a real problem.

0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:20.719
<v Speaker 4>You need to stop. I can't read that, let's think

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:21.399
<v Speaker 4>of something else.

0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 5>The advice is be afraid to fail and always and

0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 5>always go for it. Always, always go at it, give

0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:31.640
<v Speaker 5>it your best shot. Never go with something.

0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:35.560
<v Speaker 4>If you want to do it, do it. Don't pretend

0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 4>you want to do and hope it's going to work out.

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 4>Go for it.

0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:42.120
<v Speaker 2>And you know what that blends into kind of part

0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:44.359
<v Speaker 2>of my mirror room with you, and you were like,

0:42:44.520 --> 0:42:47.320
<v Speaker 2>we see that you're giving year hundred percent, and that's

0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:50.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of what I needed to hear. I just wanted

0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:53.360
<v Speaker 2>and I think that that's what we do as humans.

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:56.239
<v Speaker 2>We want to be validated, we want to be appreciated.

0:42:56.320 --> 0:43:00.480
<v Speaker 2>And I felt like I got the validation that I

0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 2>needed that you all saw that I was trying my hardest,

0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:06.279
<v Speaker 2>even though my hardest wasn't ever going to be as

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:07.319
<v Speaker 2>good as anybody else.

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:09.279
<v Speaker 1>You know that we're not.

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:10.160
<v Speaker 3>Interested in that.

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:11.839
<v Speaker 4>You've got the validation at the right time.

0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:12.439
<v Speaker 3>That's right.

0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:13.880
<v Speaker 5>If we're to give you on the beach when you

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:16.720
<v Speaker 5>said off it, then you'd expect more of it.

0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:17.800
<v Speaker 4>It was the wrong time to give it.

0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:18.600
<v Speaker 3>You didn't need it.

0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 5>Then what you needed was a kid on the.

0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:25.080
<v Speaker 4>Backside and aggressive. That's what you needed. That's what we all,

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:27.239
<v Speaker 4>I know different, we're all you know this.

0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:30.480
<v Speaker 5>Sometimes I need that and so you got that validation

0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 5>at the very very right time. Now, the other thing

0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 5>about all that is, remember this, there's no concessions because

0:43:36.000 --> 0:43:38.920
<v Speaker 5>you're a female and you're smaller or you're older. You

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:41.359
<v Speaker 5>did exactly the same as everybody else and you always will.

0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:43.560
<v Speaker 5>And that's the thing about the course, because a lot

0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 5>of people say to us, well, it's unfair. They're small

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:49.120
<v Speaker 5>ladies and they're big gents. So what you're stepping into

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:52.520
<v Speaker 5>the forces world. The special Forces don't make compensation for

0:43:52.560 --> 0:43:56.319
<v Speaker 5>anybody totally this way. You'll do this journey, you'll do

0:43:56.360 --> 0:44:00.120
<v Speaker 5>it at this time, You'll do it at this you know, standard.

0:44:01.400 --> 0:44:01.680
<v Speaker 3>Can't.

0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 5>So that's why when we explained to the audience as well,

0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:07.440
<v Speaker 5>is Trista carried exactly the same as every big man.

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:10.399
<v Speaker 5>She kinded the same as Camp cam Newton. She went

0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:12.879
<v Speaker 5>the same distance as Cam Newton, did the same thing,

0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:15.800
<v Speaker 5>she was shouted at. She got the same ones. And

0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:18.080
<v Speaker 5>that's actually the beauty of the show is it is,

0:44:18.640 --> 0:44:21.880
<v Speaker 5>and it's not all. We don't make comes and we shouldn't,

0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:26.359
<v Speaker 5>you know. It's that's why I'll go onto it again.

0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:31.680
<v Speaker 5>That is why it's an individual journey. Yeah, journey. You know,

0:44:32.200 --> 0:44:34.279
<v Speaker 5>of course you want to get to the end, but

0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:37.359
<v Speaker 5>it doesn't matter it really. It's easy to say that,

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:41.400
<v Speaker 5>but truly to take that away, your journey was the

0:44:41.760 --> 0:44:43.560
<v Speaker 5>two days or two and off days you were there,

0:44:44.080 --> 0:44:45.560
<v Speaker 5>and that was a lot. That was the hell of

0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:47.440
<v Speaker 5>a lot, you know, that could have ended it a

0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:48.120
<v Speaker 5>day before.

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:50.480
<v Speaker 3>We've seen people even the first hour.

0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, true.

0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love program Billy talks about this is a

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:03.400
<v Speaker 3>character development. It's actually not, of course, it just happens

0:45:03.400 --> 0:45:07.200
<v Speaker 3>to be captured this show. Yeah right, all for your

0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:12.120
<v Speaker 3>self development. What I always appreciate is this, all the

0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:16.480
<v Speaker 3>recruits for the first time are in the elements, really

0:45:16.640 --> 0:45:20.200
<v Speaker 3>in the elements. We take it for granted. Our whole

0:45:20.239 --> 0:45:27.279
<v Speaker 3>careers have been hot, cold, miserable, sandy, filthy, and that

0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:31.719
<v Speaker 3>was for every day. And we learn that it's to

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:36.560
<v Speaker 3>not even associated negative attitude to it to be happy

0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:39.759
<v Speaker 3>as pigs in a waller. We've been so filled in

0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:43.279
<v Speaker 3>blood and trying to keep the optics clean as we're

0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:46.960
<v Speaker 3>trying to observe. We've been in the just nasty and nasty,

0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:49.640
<v Speaker 3>and we're not upset like you know, it's not even

0:45:49.680 --> 0:45:52.400
<v Speaker 3>a negative thing to us. Now you people get a

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:56.640
<v Speaker 3>chance to be in this really rough and tough world

0:45:56.800 --> 0:46:02.880
<v Speaker 3>that makes you cold, hot, uncomfortable. It builds character. You'll

0:46:02.920 --> 0:46:03.480
<v Speaker 3>forget the.

0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:04.319
<v Speaker 4>Lordships as well.

0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:06.319
<v Speaker 5>All you'll ever figured out is the funny side of it.

0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:08.960
<v Speaker 5>You know, don in there with you were just straight

0:46:09.080 --> 0:46:10.080
<v Speaker 5>over your face.

0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, it's all good.

0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:16.640
<v Speaker 5>You know, ninety percent of being in the military special

0:46:16.640 --> 0:46:22.440
<v Speaker 5>forces is actually quite boring. That's yeah, comfortable, it's miserable.

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:26.200
<v Speaker 5>You wait for that one sliver of excitement, whether it's

0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:30.399
<v Speaker 5>capturing somebody, doing something, saving somebody, or whatever it is,

0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:32.759
<v Speaker 5>and it takes a long long time to get You

0:46:32.760 --> 0:46:35.279
<v Speaker 5>forget all that. You'll only remember that thing. You guys,

0:46:35.320 --> 0:46:37.600
<v Speaker 5>will be the same. You'll remember the funny thing said

0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:41.560
<v Speaker 5>in the dormitory, the time somebody shouted at somebody else,

0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 5>so what you were called a name that made you laugh.

0:46:43.680 --> 0:46:45.800
<v Speaker 5>They're the funny things, and they're the things you'll always

0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:46.759
<v Speaker 5>remember talk about.

0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love it you guys.

0:46:51.160 --> 0:46:54.239
<v Speaker 2>Thank you or sorry Staph, thank you so much for

0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:58.120
<v Speaker 2>coming on the almost famous OG podcast. I I just

0:46:58.160 --> 0:47:00.600
<v Speaker 2>wish it had been in person, and I could you hug,

0:47:00.680 --> 0:47:03.600
<v Speaker 2>But thank you so much for for making me a

0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:07.759
<v Speaker 2>better person, for giving me the opportunity to see, you know,

0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:10.239
<v Speaker 2>have a little glimpse into your world and sharing your

0:47:10.239 --> 0:47:13.560
<v Speaker 2>world with the rest of us so that you know

0:47:13.719 --> 0:47:16.640
<v Speaker 2>we can we can know more, we can do better,

0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:20.879
<v Speaker 2>and we can be better as as our own individuals.

0:47:21.160 --> 0:47:24.200
<v Speaker 5>Much frank you stepping into our arena. That's a big

0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:27.040
<v Speaker 5>bullsy call to step into that arena. What you do

0:47:27.400 --> 0:47:32.879
<v Speaker 5>you really is so well done and great, and yeah,

0:47:33.320 --> 0:47:34.919
<v Speaker 5>we we have to catch you up at some point.

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<v Speaker 3>We will, we will.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love that. We need to we need to create.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we're on a we're on a text thread with

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<v Speaker 2>everybody and we've talked about like I want to do something.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I've been talking to publicity. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>can we please just get something on the books so

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<v Speaker 2>that we can all see each other in person. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you so much for coming.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, maybe charity events, something for veterantion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh yes, pleaseing like.

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<v Speaker 4>That, or even for the for the fire la.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's let's let's do something together.

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<v Speaker 4>One day of stupid it's old together to raise some

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<v Speaker 4>money or whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all there, I'm there. I'm there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's our pleasure and we love that when you recruit,

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<v Speaker 3>show up, you give it all you got and the

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<v Speaker 3>impact you make for the audience. This show is really about.

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<v Speaker 3>This course is really about your development and how your

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<v Speaker 3>audience and regular everyday people can relate to what you're

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<v Speaker 3>going through and it helps open up people's hearts, change lives,

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<v Speaker 3>gives people help. It's wonderful. We love what we do

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<v Speaker 3>and we couldn't do it without you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Thanks guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Be safe, bye bye,