WEBVTT - Selects: How Area 51 Works 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:05.800 Hello, everybody, Chuck here, take me to your leader. Other 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:10.960 things ets might say, Happy Saturday. This episode is called 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:15.080 how Area fifty one Works. It's from June thirteenth, twenty nineteen, 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:17.920 and you know, we get into it. We chop it up, 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:20.320 as they say, all about Area fifty one. 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:28.320 I hope you enjoy. 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:35.000 Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:39.479 Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:42.360 there's Charles w Chuck Brian over there, and there's Dylan 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:46.720 the guest producer again. And this is stop should Know, 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:53.600 the podcast about Chuck some pretty heady stuff. 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:55.040 Yeah. 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:58.200 I could have sworn we did this one. No, what 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:00.639 do we do roswell no UFOs? 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:04.080 Yes we did that at a comic con or something, right. 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:06.520 Yeah we did. We did it live. I've never been 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:07.679 satisfied with that one. 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:08.800 I agree. 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:10.720 Maybe we'll redo it one day. 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:13.800 Yeah, this is good, this Area fifty one. 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.760 I think this kind of covers some ground that I 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:21.200 didn't think I was surprised by. 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:22.280 This is what I'm saying. 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:24.920 Yeah, me too, And I think the thing that I 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:27.600 would wager you were surprised about, which I was definitely 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:31.399 surprised about was just how mundane the explanations for what 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:34.000 goes on at Area fifty one probably. 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:36.639 Is yeah, secret government research the end. 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:39.960 Right, but it probably doesn't have anything to do with 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:44.759 reverse engineering, alien technology and the secret seat of the 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:49.240 one World government, the Majestic twelve, probably isn't located there. 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:50.560 No, probably just bombs and planes. 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:54.880 Probably it makes sense. And if there is a conspiracy 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:57.760 going on, the one conspiracy theory I saw for Area 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:00.840 fifty one that made the most sense to me is 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.720 that it's actually meant to be a distraction or has 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:07.400 developed into a distraction for some other place that no 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:08.079 one even. 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:10.919 Knows about Area fifty Maybe, yeah. 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:14.360 Maybe hopefully they're not quite that on the nose, but 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:15.560 it's possible. 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:19.160 All right. So let's go back in time, I guess. 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:24.600 To World War two, and well, first of all, Area 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:29.400 fifty one, just to geographically level set, it's less than 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:31.079 one hundred miles from Las Vegas in. 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:33.320 Nevada, South South Nevada. 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:37.960 Yeah, it's six hundred square miles and it's basically if 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:40.040 you look at it on Google Earth, it looks like 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:43.279 a you know, big airfield with a bunch of buildings. 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:47.640 So the I think the whole restricted airspace that's part 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:50.240 of like the test range and the air base and 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:52.840 all of that stuff. Yeah, the Area fifty one is 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:56.079 located in. I think that's six hundred square miles. I'm 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:58.680 pretty sure Area fifty one itself is no more than 0:02:58.760 --> 0:02:59.799 sixty square miles. 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:02.560 Oh yeah, sure, just like the It's not like they're 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:04.880 six hundred square miles of buildings. 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:07.919 Right, it's just what Yeah, the installation that people think 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:11.600 of as Area fifty one is part of a larger, huge, 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:16.080 big chunk of the American desert in Nevada. 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:16.840 Right, So. 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:21.000 Next to Area fifty one is what's what you were 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:21.720 kind of talking. 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:23.000 About, the Nevada Test Site. 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:26.800 And this is where for about ten or eleven years, 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:34.359 the Atomic Energy Commission was setting off nuclear bombs underground, 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:39.720 above ground and really sort of figuring out how to 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:42.920 kill a lot of people very easily and sort of 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:44.680 the most dangerous way you could imagine. 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:47.320 Yeah, and you could see this from Vegas, Like they 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.040 would have parties when they were doing the test, because 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.520 Vegas is like eighty miles away or something like that, 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:56.720 and they would have like atomic cocktails and viewing parties 0:03:56.720 --> 0:04:00.640 and stuff like that. And people watch them shoot off bombs. Unbelievable, right, 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:05.240 But this is obviously a part of the country that 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.560 the government would be very interested in keeping people away from, 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:13.200 not just for the bombs, but because of the fallout 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:16.200 the radiation, but also the fact that they're testing like 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:22.120 super sensitive military equipment and weapons, right, like atomic bombs. 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:22.600 Yeah. 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.360 Like previous to this, it was just land. There were 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:28.320 silver mines, there was cattle and wildlife. But then in 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.520 nineteen forty the government said no, this is ours, and 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.920 we're going to train bombers here. 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:36.680 And there was a big bombing range and they. 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:40.159 Were split into different numbers, and that's where the number 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:43.640 Area fifty one comes from, which seems I don't know 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:46.640 about arbitrary, but no one knows if it really matters 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:48.120 why it was named Area fifty one. 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:50.200 No, I think it was. If you look at old 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:54.599 bombing range maps, the area where Area fifty one is 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.440 located was denoted as area fifty. 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:59.599 One Between fifty and fifty two, it is probably the answer. 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.120 Yeah, it's basically from what I saw, that was it. 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:03.080 Yeah. 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:06.440 So there's another part of this story. With World War two, 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:09.800 and this is Germany. They were a bit ahead of 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:14.440 US as far as jets go, jet airplanes, the United 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:16.680 States is like, this won't do it all. So we're 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:18.960 going to get kind of put the gas on our 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:24.920 jet development. And in nineteen forty three, Lockheed said was 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:28.720 tasked with developing a jet fighter plane you can use 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:32.640 a British jet engine, and they tasked engineer Kelly Johnson said, 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:35.120 get a team together. He got a team together and 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:39.039 they delivered the P eighty Shooting Star, which is one 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:41.480 of the coolest looking old jets. 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:43.919 All these planes are just amazing looking. 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:46.520 Agreed, very very cool. It's a good idea when we 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:48.400 talk about a new jet or something, go look it 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:50.280 up as we're talking about because most of them are 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:51.160 pretty boss looking. 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:51.480 Yeah. 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:53.159 I've never been a plane guy, but I'm getting more 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:54.080 and more into it. 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.320 Is that right? Yeah, I want to do a stealth 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:57.440 bomber episode one day. 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:59.240 Okay, possibly the coolest plane. 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:05.719 Yeah. So Kelly Johnson was just that right there. Delivering 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:11.120 America's first jet on like undertime and under budget was 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:15.400 huge and he became a legendary engineer right off the bat. 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.800 And they I think Lockheed said, hey, how would you 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:21.839 like to keep this pace up? We'll give you, your 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:26.120 team of elite engineers, whatever funding you need, whatever resources 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.640 you need, just ask you can have it, and you 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:33.159 just keep developing stuff really quickly for us, and we 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:35.640 will put you at the cutting edge of aviation research. 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:39.080 And so Kelly Johnson and his team eventually became known 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:44.080 as the Skunk Works, which is legendary in aviation engineering 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:48.640 because they developed a whole bunch of really cool stuff. 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:50.520 But also they had a pretty great name too that 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:52.839 was fairly intriguing. But they were the first ones to 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:57.719 kind of basically develop agile project management from what I understand. 0:06:57.920 --> 0:06:59.919 Yeah, and this was all out of the what was 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:03.440 own a Site one, which was in Burbank, California, just 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:06.480 sort of a suburb of LA But then in nineteen 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:09.600 fifty four they said, you know what we need now 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:13.600 is a spy plane. The CIA wants a spyplane. We 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:19.400 want something that can fly above radar and photograph Soviet 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:23.480 military bases missile installations. We're going to name it, because 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:28.800 we name everything Project aquatone. And that's where Johnson and 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:33.760 his team developed the U two. The Skunkworks team, but 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:36.120 they couldn't do this at Site one anymore because it 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:39.320 had to be super super secret obviously because it was 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:42.320 a spy plane, so they needed a different place, and 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:45.800 that's where that sort of all converges onto this testing 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:46.760 site in Nevada. 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:52.560 Yeah, Kelly Johnson, CIA officer named Richard Bissel and a 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:56.200 couple of pilots started scouting locations for where they could 0:07:56.200 --> 0:08:00.680 develop this in super super secret and they they went 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:05.080 to look at the old Nevada Test Range and specifically 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:08.520 the thing that attracted them was a dry salt lake 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:12.760 called Groom Lake. And one of the pilots recounted taking 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:16.040 some like sixteen pounds shot put balls and dropping them 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:18.360 on the ground to see just how sandy the ground was, 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:21.520 and he said it was solid as a tabletop. This 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:24.680 lake was the dry lake. They were like, this will 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:27.640 probably do. And there's a lot of reasons why it 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:29.600 would do, not just because there was a dry lake 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:33.200 bed that was as hard as concrete, but because it 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:36.600 was in an area that was already off limits to 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:41.080 the public. The airspace was already restricted, it was remote, 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:46.360 there were two mountain ranges that shield the test site 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:49.640 from view. So this area, what became known as Area 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:54.760 fifty one, was just perfect for developing a super secret 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:58.360 spy plane in Super Secret and so the CIA and 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:01.360 the skunk Works team say this will do. Let's take 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:02.080 this place over. 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:03.840 Did I ever tell you about one of the most 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:05.520 fun things I ever got to do as a PA? 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.440 What wait, didn't were you arrested by Eric a Strada? 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:12.120 Is you're gonna say, oh no, that's stop. Ten Okay. 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:16.920 We did a car shoot on a dry like bed 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:20.720 and death Valley nice and they had like a big, 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.160 huge line of cars in a row, all driving in 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:26.760 perfect synchronicity, and the director wasn't happy, and they were like, 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:29.200 we want all the dust is behind them. He went, 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:31.560 I want dust in front of them. So the ad 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:35.280 ran and grabbed the keys to a Mustang, threw them 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:37.920 to me, and he said, get in that Mustang and 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:40.920 drive one hundred feet in front of them as fast 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:43.480 as you can, fish tailing and doing donuts and stuff. 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:44.360 Awesome. 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:47.959 I was like me, yeah, oh man, it was so 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:49.600 much fun because this is a dry lake bed. It's 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:54.400 like there's just no fear of hitting anything or flipping, 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:54.800 like you. 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:56.680 Could just do whatever you wanted. It was wonderful. 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:57.480 That's cool. 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:58.280 It was so much fun. 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:01.400 Did you didn't hit a jack rabbit or anything, just 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:01.840 a couple. 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.319 No, it was fine. It was a lot of fun. 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:07.880 So what was the last thing he said. 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.200 Yeah, the last thing, Well, I was talking about how 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:14.600 amazingly perfect Area fifty one is for developing a super 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:15.480 secret spy plane. 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:18.600 Yeah, so they called it Paradise Ranch, and the locals 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:20.560 around there they were used to because of all the 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:23.520 atomic bomb testing. It kind of worked out because they 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:25.040 weren't gonna First of all, I was in the middle 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:27.960 of nowhere, but even the nearby communities, the ones that 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:31.720 were close enough, it just wasn't on anyone's radar because 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:35.280 they had always been doing weird things out there, so 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:38.800 it's not like it pricked up anyone's ears. So it 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.040 was kind of the perfect cover to be there at 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:44.640 Paradise Ranch doing these development of these spy planes and. 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:45.880 Stuff, right right. 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:49.319 So, but in addition to that, the cover story initially 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.120 that the CIA produced was that they were a team 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:57.880 of bomb experts, yeah, who were cleaning up unexploded munitions 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.160 from the time when it was used as a bombing range. 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:03.000 So that was why that was the story they used 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:04.959 for why there was a sudden appearance of like trucks 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:08.240 and people when there hadn't been really much of anything 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:08.840 there before. 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:12.800 Yeah, there were also natural barriers. There were a couple 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:15.040 of mountain ranges that kind of shielded it from view. 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:19.640 It was already remote, the airspace was already restricted. And 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:24.920 then Eisenhower came along and signed Executive Order one zero, six, three, 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:29.479 three and nineteen fifty five, which basically extended the airspace 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:32.600 over Area fifty one, and then in nineteen fifty eight 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:37.720 a public Land Order made this basically said that this 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:41.200 area doesn't exist anymore. Right, it's not on maps, it's 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:44.720 not acknowledged. And this is one of the huge reasons 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:49.440 why cite to the ranch Area fifty one has been 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:53.560 so And we'll see later things have changed a little 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:56.960 bit in recent years. But just for the government to say, like, 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:59.280 I don't know what you're talking about, over and over again, 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:02.280 it's sort of crazy making it is. 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:05.600 But like they would, as we'll see later, they will 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.880 they would say an open court, the place where this 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:12.320 person claims to work does not exist, like in court, 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:16.240 and the judge would just be like, what do you what? 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:17.959 How are we going to get around this? This is 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:22.840 a real problem. But from what I read, Chuck originally 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:28.840 Area fifty one was a CIA installation, and around nineteen 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:33.160 seventy it transferred hands to the Air Force. But from 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:35.680 what I could tell, up until that point, or at 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.760 least the first several years in the mid to late 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:43.240 fifties and early sixties, no one had any idea that 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:46.280 Area fifty one existed. They did a really good job 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:50.040 of keeping that place a genuine secret, not an open 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:52.920 secret like it became later on, but a real secret. 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:54.720 And one of the ways that they did that was 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:59.680 they from what workers later said in like testimony in 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:02.760 court cases, is that like they would be interrogated at 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:05.600 gunpoint to see if they were actually spies. There were 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:08.200 all sorts of like weird loyalty tests and things like that. 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:12.479 And while they were working on the U two spyplane 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:17.079 in particular, they kept that secret so serious that if 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:20.240 you were out there working and you had nothing to 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:22.439 do with the utube program, you were just a worker, 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:24.920 you were working on a different program, they would move 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:27.640 you indoors, close the doors, close the blinds on the 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:31.240 windows before rolling the U two out or testing it, 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:34.160 like you were not allowed to be outside or look. 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:39.440 Yeah, that was pretty like remarkable. Like within Area fifty one. 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:40.480 They even had. 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:43.360 Subsecurity protocols in place. 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:46.440 I kind of just figured like, if you were in there, 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:50.320 then you had access to the alien room, right, you know, 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:51.360 all the good stuff. 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:54.680 Right. But think about that, because to even be on 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:58.120 the base or in Area fifty one, you had to 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:03.240 have the highest level of security clearance you could possibly have, yeah, 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:06.440 just to work on there. And even if you had that, 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:09.160 you still couldn't see the U two spy plane or 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:11.400 know that it existed or hear people talk about it. 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.160 They wouldn't even let Bono in on it. 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:13.880 Nope. 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:15.920 So that was a terrible joke. 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:17.840 It was really bad. I was really home. We can 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:18.600 get around that one. 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:24.000 So the U two spy plane was great until it wasn't. 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:27.920 And that was when Francis gary Powers was shot down 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:31.720 in nineteen sixty and the plane was all of a 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:35.840 sudden in the hand of the Soviets, and they basically 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:38.320 were like, well, that's the end of that. You can't 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:40.200 have a secret spy plane anymore once it's in the 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:42.840 hand of the Soviets. And it was also a big 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:46.600 deal because the American people all of a sudden knew 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:50.960 that the US government is definitely doing things in total 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:54.000 secret and developing technology that no one knows about. 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:56.560 It was a surprise to everybody, not just the Soviets, 0:14:56.560 --> 0:15:00.160 but also the American public, Like you were saying, too, 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:03.400 look to see if this was looked upon by historians, 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.520 is like the point where Americans realized that the government 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:09.520 did things in secret that the American public didn't know about. 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:11.400 And I didn't see anything like that. So I don't 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:13.880 know if this is an ed comment or what, but 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:17.400 it makes sense. And certainly people didn't know that the 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:19.880 U two spyplane existed. The CIA did a really good 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:23.240 job of keeping it secret, but when it was out, 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:27.000 it was pretty humiliating for the US. And it was 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:29.440 also a big deal that this spy plane was shot 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:34.440 down because Eisenhower had approached Krutchev Khrushchev and said, hey, 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:37.600 why don't we maintain an open airspace policy to one 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.360 another so we can keep tabs to make sure that 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:45.440 either side is keeping our word with our armament treaties 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:48.400 and the stuff we're doing. Like we're enemies, but maybe 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:50.600 we should kind of be able to keep tabs one another, 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:52.800 and Khrushchev said, no, there's not going to be any 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:56.240 open airspace policy, and so the United States went and 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:59.080 developed this U two spy plane instead, and when it 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:02.800 got shot down flying over restricted airspace of an enemy, 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:04.800 that's an act of war and it could have gone 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.480 way differently than it did, but instead it was a 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.840 big humiliation for the United States. And instead of just 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:13.440 kind of tucking tail and running, the guy who was 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.320 in charge of it for the CIA, Richard Bissel, went 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:19.000 to the government and said, Hey, I've got an idea. 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:23.280 Let's get even more secret and develop an even more 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:27.440 secretive plane under an even more secretive project. And that 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:30.680 the government said, Hey, let's do it. We're scared of 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:34.200 the Russians. We'll double down. We'll triple down if you want, buddy, 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:37.200 And that became Project ox Cart. 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:41.120 That's right, And that was a black project, and it 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:45.400 was so secret and so concealed that no one was 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:47.840 even allowed to know how much money was being spent. 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:50.720 Yeah, this is a big turning point here. 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:51.200 It was. 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:53.080 I mean, this kind of started the era that we 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:56.440 still live in today, in which the military just dumps 0:16:56.480 --> 0:17:01.720 money into secret projects where there's that that don't exist 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:03.840 as far as anyone knows, and that there's very little 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:06.240 oversight for right, exactly interesting. 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:08.720 Yea, And apparently it was this Richard Bissell's idea. 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:11.800 All right, well, let's take a break old Dick Bissell 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:16.360 and we'll get back to Dick Bissell and the rest of. 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:17.440 Ox Cart right after this. 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:26.040 Stop. 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.119 So, one of the problems with I. 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:47.359 Guess it's not a problem if you're comfortable with dumping 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:50.480 money into a project. But one of the I guess 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:54.119 expenses of a super super secret project is that it 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:57.720 just costs a lot more background checks, take time, and 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:01.600 cost money. Putting something in a super remote location costs 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:06.439 money having extra security forces, and it all just costs 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:10.199 a lot more money. I mean, it's a serious multiplier 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:13.520 on costs to do something that quote unquote doesn't exist. 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:16.399 Right. But in addition to that, chuck too, is just 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:20.080 the fact that the technology that was being developed was 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:24.080 so cutting edge just by definition required even more money 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:27.040 on top of the extra money for it being so 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:27.840 super secret. 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:28.280 Yeah. 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:31.600 So ox Card eventually led to the SR seventy one Blackbird, 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:34.280 another amazingly cool plane. 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:36.080 Probably the coolest of all time if you ask me. 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:38.880 Yeah, I said the Stealth Barmber earlier. But the SR 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:42.320 seventy one is that it was pretty awesome, although there 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:44.720 is another one later on that I'll mention. 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:47.600 Well, I'll go ahead and say the Bird of Prey 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:48.480 stealth jet. 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:51.119 You like that one, Huh, that's pretty cool. It looks 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:55.200 a little bit like a super cool tongue depresser. You 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:56.080 know what I'm talking about. 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:58.920 I know what a tongue depresser is. 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:02.440 This looks like that, a flying gray tongue depressor. It's 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:06.119 like a popsicle stick though, right, yeah, but wider. 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:10.399 Okay, But the SR seventy one Blackbird definitely not a 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:11.160 popsicle stick. 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:14.439 No, No, it's just cool. Plus it doesn't hurt the 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:18.280 fact that Gi Joe Well Cobra technically had the SR 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:20.400 seventy one Blackbird as one of their planes. 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:21.760 That's funny. 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:28.720 So Oxcart they needed better infrastructure basically, and it was 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:31.960 they couldn't just pour money into the development of the 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:34.400 jet at this point. They had to really update all 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:40.120 the facilities, expanding on land, expanding more restricted airspace. Even 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:43.640 that happened in nineteen sixty two, and it just sort 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:47.880 of I think ingrained the super permanence of Area fifty one. 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:51.520 And also like the fact that like the government said, no, okay, 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:53.960 this was a humiliating thing to ever you two shot down, 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:57.280 rather than maybe we'll just kind of take another tack. 0:19:57.720 --> 0:20:00.679 They really went further down the path of just completely 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:06.480 secret black projects and they developed some pretty amazing stuff there. 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:10.359 The uh I think you were saying, they Bird of 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:13.080 Prey that was from the nineties. 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:14.440 Right, Yeah, I think it's cool looking. 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:17.200 The F one to seventeen Nighthawk, that's the one that's 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:19.359 like a single wing stealth bomber. 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:24.359 I believe, yes, And this is also where they take 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:27.360 and like if you capture an enemy plane, you will 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:30.360 take that to Area fifty one to check out as well. 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:34.800 Yeah, there's another program at Wright Patterson Base in Dayton 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:38.680 that's like set up specifically for that. But I wonder 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:42.000 if this is like even more highly sensitive. I don't know. 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:46.240 I don't know, but yeah, they've captured MiGs before, captured 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:49.200 radar systems and they reverse engineered them there, which will 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:52.280 come in a play later on. And then there was 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:56.560 another one called the Tacit Blue Stealth Bomber. So basically 0:20:56.600 --> 0:21:02.119 any stealth aircraft, whether it was the stealth Blackhawks or 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:05.920 the stealth bombers that were developed from the sixties onward 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:11.359 it was probably developed and tested in super secrecy in 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:12.480 Area fifty one. 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:16.240 Right, So, like I said, this made it just sort 0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:19.600 of a shop that they that wouldn't close. Essentially at 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:23.600 this point in nineteen ninety three, there's an area known 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:28.800 as Freedom Ridge, very ironic name because Freedom Ridge was 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:30.240 taken by the government. 0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:32.080 Right and closed off to the public. 0:21:32.119 --> 0:21:36.359 And this is where tinfoil hats used to gather with 0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:38.439 their binoculars to try and check out things. 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:42.720 And they said to no more. Freedom Ridge is now ours. 0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:46.119 It's called get out of here Ridge. Yeah, shot on 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:46.800 site Ridge. 0:21:46.840 --> 0:21:47.320 That's right. 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:51.560 So if you are like get to the aliens, what 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:54.760 are you guys even talking about the aliens in Area 0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:57.560 fifty one as synonymous as they are now, and they 0:21:57.600 --> 0:22:00.439 are synonymous. The highway that Area fifty one one is 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:02.399 off of, that the road to Area fifty one is 0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:04.960 off of, has been officially renamed by the state of 0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:08.880 Nevada as the Extraterrestrial Highway. It's Highway three oh five. 0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:14.800 As synonymous as this base is with aliens and UFOs, 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:19.840 that's actually relatively recent. It was operating for a good 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:26.320 twenty five thirty five years, I think, before aliens became 0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:30.439 tied to Area fifty one, And there's actually a moment 0:22:30.480 --> 0:22:33.800 in time that you can point to where it happened. 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:36.760 And it happened on a broadcast in May of nineteen 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:41.120 eighty nine, almost just passed thirty years ago on KLAS, 0:22:41.240 --> 0:22:44.879 the local Las Vegas TV network. I'm not sure what 0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:47.280 network affiliate they are, but they had like their five 0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:49.760 o'clock news, and on it they interviewed a guy who 0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:54.160 was anonymous, went by the pseudonym Dennis, and he basically said, Hey, 0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:56.600 I'm doing a lot of weird stuff out there at 0:22:56.600 --> 0:22:59.120 Area fifty one. Let me tell you all about it. 0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:04.280 His name, his real name was Bob Lazar, and he 0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:06.640 Have you seen interviews with this guy? 0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:07.399 Yeah? 0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:09.280 Did you see the more recent one? 0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:12.760 No, but the one where he said I think it 0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:14.560 was a good idea, that one. 0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:17.040 No, I'm talking about there was one just from a 0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:17.760 few years ago. 0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:21.720 No, it's I gotta say. 0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:25.919 I mean, I'm not a conspiracy guy at all. But 0:23:25.960 --> 0:23:29.199 when you listen to Bob Blazar talk today, he just 0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:30.320 doesn't seem like some. 0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:34.080 Crackpot or a weirdo, or like he would be lying. 0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:36.439 He hasn't like made money off of this or like 0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:41.200 he's basically like, listen, man, I kind of wish this 0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:44.360 wasn't attached to my name because I'm trying to run 0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:47.280 a business in Michigan and it doesn't help that people 0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:48.720 think I'm some ufo kook. 0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:51.200 Bob Lazar is alien apples. 0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:51.520 And he's. 0:23:54.080 --> 0:23:58.280 Oh good, and he said, but he was like, you know, 0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:01.600 everything that I told you was true, though, and that's 0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:04.239 just the deal, you know, and I don't care if 0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:05.080 anyone believes me. 0:24:05.359 --> 0:24:08.280 He's kind of like that though too. In the early interviews, 0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:11.560 at the very least, he's very calm and not at 0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:15.000 all kookie or anything like that. It's specifically the stuff 0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:17.600 he was talking about that was, yeah, so compelling. 0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:18.160 Yeah. 0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:21.399 So his story is then you can go watch this 0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:24.240 stuff for yourself and see it all. But he basically 0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:29.439 explains how he's an engineer and he was working on 0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:37.960 reverse engineering flying saucers, essentially alien spacecraft and alien technology, 0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:41.720 and at one point he was in a room and 0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:44.720 they left him alone with all these files that describe 0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:48.960 alien technology and alien autopsies and all of this stuff. 0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:53.520 And it's pretty remarkable to listen to. It didn't make 0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:56.040 the hugest waves because it was nineteen eighty nine. It 0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:59.080 was a local news station at first, it didn't, yeah, 0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:01.920 and then it was picked up by Japan oddly enough, 0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:06.400 and after it went to Japan, it went kind of worldwide, 0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:10.480 and before you know it, the whole area just sort 0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:12.080 of became Alien Central. 0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:13.920 And this is we should point out. 0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:15.680 This also has a lot to do with the fact 0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:19.960 that in the seventies and eighties did the United States 0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:21.200 kind of went ufo nuts. 0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:24.600 Oh yeah, man, there are so many great books at 0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:26.960 the time that were coming out that claimed everything from 0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:32.280 like UFOs were responsible for the Muta Triangle, or Atlantis 0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:36.480 was populated by UFOs, or the Nazca lines were for UFOs, 0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:39.200 or the Egyptians built the Pyramids with the UFOs. All 0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:41.480 that stuff came out of the seventies and eighties. 0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:42.120 Yeah. 0:25:42.200 --> 0:25:45.720 So this all kind of coincided with Lazarre having his 0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:48.720 news interview and it really just kind of changed everything. 0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:50.560 It did, right, So he kind of like came out 0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:53.159 at a time when America was primed to really believe it. 0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:55.960 But if you think about it, like everything you hear 0:25:55.960 --> 0:25:59.159 about and think about from about Area fifty one today 0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:02.560 did not exist pre nineteen eighty nine, Pre Bob Blazar. 0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:05.640 It all started with Bob Blazar, and the reason why 0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:09.000 everybody wasn't just like so, he's just some nut who 0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:11.959 came out and said this stuff. Who cares? How did that? 0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:15.040 How did that become truly cemented with Area fifty one? 0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:18.840 Is that Weirdly some of the stuff he talked about 0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:23.760 kind of held water, Like he would talk about just mundane, 0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:26.080 day to day stuff that went on at Area fifty 0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:30.720 one that seemed to be able to be correlated from 0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:36.560 locals like it held up. There was a there was 0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:39.399 a scanner once. He said that you would get in 0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:42.119 and out of rooms by scanning your hands and it 0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:45.800 would scan the bone structure of your hand. That was 0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:48.080 how you were identified and could come in and out 0:26:48.080 --> 0:26:52.359 of rooms. And supposedly somebody found years like thirty years later, 0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:56.480 mentioned of something like that in some declassified report about 0:26:56.560 --> 0:27:00.560 Area fifty one. He also this is it really kind 0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:04.080 of legitimized him. He would take people out on Wednesday 0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:07.280 nights and at the time he would say, I never 0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:09.080 saw what time it was, but at the time he 0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:11.200 said it would happen, lights would rise up in the 0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:13.680 sky and they would do all sorts of ufoi kind 0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:16.240 of stuff, and the fact that he knew about these 0:27:16.240 --> 0:27:19.399 schedules really kind of added legitimacy to his claims. 0:27:19.600 --> 0:27:22.000 Yeah, and the new interview that I saw, he was 0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:28.639 explaining some of that anti gravitational propulsion technology that the 0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:32.440 Aliens had supposedly used that he was supposedly assigned to 0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:36.960 reverse engineer, and he was sort of walking the person 0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:39.640 through it that was in the room, and he was like, oh, yeah, 0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:40.920 and he said, we had this thing. It was sort 0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:43.240 of like half a basketball and when you went to 0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:44.760 put your hand on it, he was like, there was 0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:48.760 this It was like bringing two magnets, you know, opposite 0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:51.040 poles to opposite poles that repel. 0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:53.760 And he said, that's kind of what it felt like. 0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:55.480 And he said, so we would drop like a golf 0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:58.000 ball and it would just you know, skirt off to 0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:01.400 the side without hitting it and as if it had bounced. 0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:03.719 And the way he was describing it, I was just like, 0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:07.040 this guy just seems so credible, right, It was so 0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:09.840 like shocking. I didn't know what to expect. I thought 0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:12.359 he was I thought he was not going to be credible. 0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:16.120 I guess right. I didn't see the interview with him, 0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:22.720 but I read about that technology. And by the way, everybody, 0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:25.760 you can erase your email. It's like poles that repel 0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:32.919 each other. Chuck, Not, okay, the anti gravity technology was 0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:35.480 talking about. It was basically saying, like around the craft 0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:39.000 or whatever that they were reverse engineering, it would bend gravity, 0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:42.840 so this could just move right through space basically at 0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:46.880 light speed. That's the big suspicion among ufologists who follow 0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:49.800 this stuff is that they were reverse engineering light speed 0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:55.160 aircraft that was propelled using anti gravity technology on engines 0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:58.600 that were matter antimatter engines. And back in nineteen eighty 0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:01.280 nine you couldn't There wasn't an Internet to start with, 0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:03.640 but even if there was, you couldn't find stuff like 0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.720 descriptions of anti gravity craft at the time. So for 0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:08.720 this guy to just come out and start talking about 0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:13.520 this in an authoritative way, yeah, he's an enigmatic figure 0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:16.080 for sure, But he was also one whose credibility was 0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:17.800 questioned right out of the gate too. 0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:20.720 Right, Yeah, I mean he said that he went to 0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:22.200 MIT and to Caltech. 0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:24.840 There are no records of him being a student. 0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:29.680 The conspiracy theorists will say, like, you know how easy 0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:31.560 it is for the government to wipe that clean? 0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:34.000 Do you. 0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:38.320 Yeah, I'm like, I don't know, is that easy. So 0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:39.320 that's what they will say. 0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:46.440 They will also say that they also got in touch 0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:48.760 with his professors to make sure they never. 0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:50.240 Talked and stuff like that. 0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:52.440 But yeah, that's when I get a little bit like, 0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:57.160 you can't have hundreds of people or thousands of people 0:29:57.200 --> 0:30:01.040 involved in some big, massive cover up like someone's gonna talk. 0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:05.800 You're just not thinking big enough. I agree with you. 0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:08.120 That's when it kind of starts to get hinky for me. 0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:11.960 But he did disappear, and I mean not disappear, disappear, disappear, 0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:15.200 but he uh, I mean, it's not like he was like, 0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:17.400 all right and now I'm going to go make all. 0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:19.280 The money on this right exactly. 0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:21.480 Like he moved and tried to start like a regular 0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:24.360 business and tried to just not be in the public eye. 0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:26.880 Yeah, he did, which I think adds to his credibility 0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:29.680 even more, you know a little bit. Uh, let's take 0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:32.320 our last break and then come back, shall we. Let's 0:30:32.360 --> 0:31:00.680 do it, but let's promise we're going to come back. Okay, right, stop, okay, Chuck, 0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:06.120 So Bob Blazar comes along just starts spouting out at 0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:09.000 the mouth about all the crazy alien stuff that's going 0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:11.120 on at Area fifty one, and then he kind of 0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:14.760 like fades into the background for a while, and everybody 0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:16.640 else kind of took it from there. If you have 0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:20.920 anything to do with government conspiracies or believe in UFOs 0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:23.320 or aliens or whatever, all that stuff started to get 0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:27.240 saddled little by little onto Area fifty one. And one 0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:30.720 of the things that pretty early on got connected to 0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:35.400 Area fifty one, but almost across the board. Any reasonable 0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:37.840 source or skeptical source will say, like the two have 0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:42.800 nothing to do with one another. Is Roswell and Area 0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:43.400 fifty one. 0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:49.520 Yeah, the Roswell crash in nineteen forty seven, when something 0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:54.360 crashed a gentlemen found pieces of an air well, pieces 0:31:54.400 --> 0:32:00.280 of some kind of unidentified object, and it became ufosnrol. 0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:04.680 Later it was said to be a weather balloon, but first. 0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:08.040 The army said it was a flying disc. Right, that 0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:09.280 kind of change things. 0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:10.480 You've seen the pictures, right. 0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:14.600 Sure, I mean it looks like I've seen that one 0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:16.840 famous picture of the guy crouching with what looks like 0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:20.560 just some balloon material. Yeah, right, But you know, he 0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:22.560 was just a stooge for the government, and that was 0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:25.560 just a prop that they came up with. So the 0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:30.440 Roswell crash happens in nineteen forty seven, there's no way 0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:32.560 Area fifty one would have been associated with it. The 0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:37.160 whole mythos around Roswell is that there was a UFO 0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:40.200 crash that happened, some aliens survived, or at the very 0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:43.080 least their bodies were recovered, depending on who you ask, 0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:47.440 and the UFO and the aliens alive or dead were 0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:51.680 taken for further study to wear Area fifty one. Area 0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:54.440 fifty one back in nineteen forty seven, when the Roswell 0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:59.640 crash happened, was not even on the CIA's radar. It 0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:04.720 was a that basically a defunct airstrip and a nuclear 0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:07.680 testing range still, so there wouldn't have been any place 0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:10.640 to take the aliens in the first place. And then secondly, 0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:16.000 after the Roswell crash happened, the idea of an alien 0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:20.800 an alien crash having taken place there, that didn't come 0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:24.400 about until like the eighties too, so really people started 0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:26.040 to kind of catch on to this a little late. 0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:28.920 So probably Area fifty one in Roswell have nothing to 0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:31.520 do with one another. And let's not forget that they're 0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:34.719 like eight hundred miles apart too, even though to everyone 0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:37.200 in America and really the rest of the world outside 0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:39.520 of the Southwest thinks they're like right next to. 0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:43.280 Each other, I think, so, you know, yeah, So there 0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:45.120 have been a lot of crazy theories over the years. 0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:50.600 The very most basic are, like you just said, like, 0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:55.320 there's alien corpses there, alien technology there, and the US 0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:59.360 military has been studying the stuff and trying to perfect 0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:04.720 everything from time travel to light speed travel. Right, fine, 0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:07.880 that's the basic ground zero approach. 0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:13.200 Don't forget interdimensional travel too. Why not another one? I saw? 0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:15.680 There's some pretty pretty low hanging fruit that I love. 0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:17.799 The moon landing was faked. 0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:18.520 There, ah, sure? 0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:21.240 And then after that, right, but then after that Kubrick 0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:24.040 was executed on site and replaced by a clone. 0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:26.279 Well, that clon did some great work. 0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:29.240 He did better than Barry Linden. 0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:30.920 Right, Oh, I love Berry Linden. 0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:32.880 I've never seen it, so I currently hate on it. 0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:37.279 It's amazing weather control experiments. That's probably the most believable 0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:37.520 for me. 0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:40.040 Sure, clouds eating sure, why not? 0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:44.400 Well? Why not? And then there's like stage two of 0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:46.280 conspiracy theories. 0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:51.160 Yes, that is, there are aliens that clock in every 0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:55.120 day at Area fifty one and work side by side 0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:58.640 with us in harmony. 0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:03.120 In harm many in order to build like an alien 0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:07.719 human hybrid race. Maybe sure. And if all this sounds familiar, 0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:10.280 I will bet that you watched a pretty hefty amount 0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:13.440 of X Files. Oh yes, because they really tapped into 0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:18.640 this stuff. They basically just appropriated it for plot lines. 0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:21.280 Oh yeah, which is great. I love the X Files. 0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:24.560 But it was just I guess Chris Carter used to 0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:28.200 hang out with like uphologists or something just to get ideas. 0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:31.880 Did he really he had two of yeah, or he 0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:33.680 is one himself. I don't know much about it. Maybe so, 0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:37.279 maybe so so. And then of course, if you even 0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:41.000 ramp that up a little bit more, that this is 0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:43.480 all part of a giant conspiracy to create a one 0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:47.839 world government that is human alien run right. 0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:51.440 And that's where that Majestic twelve I mentioned at the 0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:57.560 beginning comes in. They are supposedly a panel of academics, 0:35:57.640 --> 0:36:01.799 elite scientists. There's twelve of them who were impaneled by 0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:05.879 Eisenhower after the Roswell crash, or I guess it would 0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:09.919 have been Truman, I think still, and they were put 0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:13.920 together just the cream of the crop to basically go 0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:18.399 contact the aliens and basically broker a meeting I guess 0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:23.239 between the President and the aliens. And they managed to 0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:29.440 leverage this to catapult themselves into status of actual people 0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:32.080 who run the world. So they're the ones who are 0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:35.640 forming this one world government. And that is where Area 0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:38.400 fifty one, or that's where it's located. The seat of 0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:41.359 this government is located underground in Area fifty one. 0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:42.440 Yeah. 0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:47.120 This next one is a little more recent and very kooky, 0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:52.000 and it's the notion that Hitler and Stalin got together 0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:56.520 and hatched a plan to undermine the United States in 0:36:56.560 --> 0:37:00.719 World War two by distracting us about the threat of 0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:04.279 an impending alien invasion. And they would do this by 0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:08.680 building a fake spaceship filling it with mutant children that 0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:16.320 Joseph Mingola created and filled the spaceship with those kids, 0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:20.600 and then the craft crashed in a storm, and that 0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:22.040 was the Roswell incident. 0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:26.200 Right, it was meant to land, and then these mutant children. 0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:28.120 Come out speaking Germans. 0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:32.200 Right. Supposedly, the mutant children who were the aliens that 0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:35.239 were found in the Roswell crash had huge heads and 0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:38.240 giant eyes. They were basically like the grays of alien 0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:43.640 legend right, and that Stalin and Hitler were inspired by 0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:46.600 the public's reaction in America to the World War of 0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:49.319 the World's broadcast. They wanted to incite that kind of 0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:55.200 panic by actually creating this fake alien invasion. 0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:57.719 With all the drugs. Hitler was on after we know 0:37:57.840 --> 0:37:59.239 this now, who knows? 0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:01.680 He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a great idea. It's 0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:03.600 a great idea. Man, what else you got? What else 0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:08.280 you got? What else can we do? Slands like mellow 0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:10.080 he tried CBD. 0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:13.560 He's like, no, that's the one thing I haven't tried. 0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:16.040 He got any right, I'll be I'll mix well with 0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:16.760 everything else. 0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:20.000 So this is this is obviously not a thing either. 0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:24.760 Well, this is from a book by an author named 0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:28.759 Annie Jacobson, I believe, and she this book came out 0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:31.319 in twenty eleven, and she based this whole thing on 0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:34.720 an alleged Area fifty one insider who was her source, 0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:40.160 who said that he worked on a project that had 0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:43.320 to do with this somehow, some way, but that this 0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:46.080 was where all this alien stuff came from. It was 0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:49.600 a it was a hoax by the Nazis and the Soviets. 0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:54.359 Weird thing is is there is another guy out there 0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:58.520 who supposedly has a different source who tells the same story. 0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:04.040 But this other source says that this is it was 0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:07.239 all fake. That I saw the files myself, but I 0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:09.680 believe that it was meant to be a test of loyalty, 0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:12.760 or to see how I would react working at Area 0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:15.839 fifty one to files like this and be like, oh 0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:17.640 my god, this is real, this is real. I can't 0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:20.480 believe this is this is actually real. I guess to 0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:23.640 see how gullible you were and therefore how trustworthy you. 0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:26.920 Were, right, which could explain Bob blazar situation too, because 0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:29.719 he was supposedly in a room full of files he 0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:30.880 probably shouldn't have seen. 0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:33.320 Either, right, So that's you probably failed the test. 0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:36.640 You got three different sources who supposedly worked at Area 0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:39.400 fifty one. Technically, I should say, because we'll get email 0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:41.840 Bob Blazar worked at S four, which is an even 0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:45.120 more secret installation that's attached to Area fifty one. 0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:46.480 Yeah, but you got. 0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:50.439 Three people who allegedly worked in Area fifty one who 0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:52.800 all tell a story about basically being left in a 0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:57.319 room with files that contained information about aliens. Whether it 0:39:57.360 --> 0:40:00.400 was a hoax, or real or whatever. And maybe that 0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:02.600 is because that kind of correlates with the idea that 0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:07.600 there were like gunpoint interrogations to verify your allegiance to 0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:10.560 the government or the military or whatever. Maybe that is 0:40:10.600 --> 0:40:14.320 something they tried there. Yeah, it doesn't make the actual 0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:17.920 aliens real. It just makes the presence of the files real, 0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:18.680 that's true. 0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:23.600 Yeah, So Area fifty one today as it truly exists. 0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:28.239 If you're driving down Highway three seventy five, there's an 0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:32.720 unmarked dirt road between mile markers twenty nine and thirty 0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:37.280 or I guess thirty and twenty nine, and you turn. 0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:37.520 On that road. 0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:39.960 It's twelve miles on a dirt road, and you'll get 0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:43.000 to a gate and there'll be warning signs all along 0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:46.480 saying restricted areas, sort of like close encounters type stuff. 0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:50.560 There will be cameras and sensors everywhere, so don't think 0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:51.840 you're like getting away with anything. 0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:55.839 No, there's mics that listen to your conversation. You were 0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:58.960 under as close surveillance as you've ever been in your 0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:00.000 life from what I understand. 0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:02.279 Yeah, and there are guards, of course, and they will 0:41:02.280 --> 0:41:04.719 say I'm sorry, turn around and drive back to the 0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:06.279 highway and if you. 0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:08.840 Persist a little bit, then you will get arrested. 0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:12.240 If you're around the perimeter area kind of walking around 0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:15.319 with your binoculars, they will probably come and take your 0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:19.040 binoculars and tell you to leave, or drive you back 0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:21.839 to the highway, or maybe smash your face in and 0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:22.840 bury you in the desert. 0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:25.440 Well, there's a sign that says use of deadly forth 0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:26.799 forces authorized. 0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:29.520 Oh, I'm sure, but there's. 0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:32.200 From what I've seen, there's never been an incident that 0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:35.279 where that actually happened. You're much more likely to get 0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:37.680 handed over to the local cops who will slap you 0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:42.319 with a several hundred dollars fine, sure, if you give 0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:44.799 them any kind of guff and don't leave immediately when 0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:45.480 they tell you to. 0:41:46.080 --> 0:41:46.160 So. 0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:51.440 Kind of the cool thing about Area fifty one, there are, obviously, 0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:53.759 I mean, there are civilian workers that work there. It's 0:41:53.760 --> 0:41:58.239 a huge facility that apparently is still growing because you 0:41:58.239 --> 0:42:01.200 can look at satellite photographs and year by year it 0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:04.320 seems to be getting bigger and bigger with more buildings. 0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:07.960 If you work there, and I mean they have to 0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:12.680 have everything from food services to custodial services, to plumbing 0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:15.360 and electricians and stuff like that. 0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:18.760 And all of those people have the highest possible security 0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:21.080 clearance an American can have. 0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:25.239 Oh sure, So they don't drive down that dirt road 0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:28.000 and just go to the gate and say how you doing, Rick, 0:42:28.040 --> 0:42:31.560 and they go come on in Jane. They go to 0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:35.440 McCarran Airport in Las Vegas and they all get on 0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:40.080 a big basically air taxi. It's a seven thirty seven 0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:43.359 passenger jet that fly. They call them the Janet Jets. 0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:45.719 It's under the cassign Janet. They're white with the big 0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:49.560 thick red stripe. You can look it up online, and 0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:50.880 they that's how they get to work every day. They 0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:53.600 fly everyone in on a seven thirty seven and you. 0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:56.120 Can see them on the tarmac. They just get in 0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:59.400 with the regular planes. It's just look for the giant 0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:01.799 seven thirty seven that are white with the red strip. 0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:02.359 And pretty cool. 0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:05.719 No logo, no nothing. They don't actually have a name, 0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:08.359 like you said, They fly under callsign Janet. So people 0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:11.919 have tried to figure out forever what Janet means. There's 0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:15.400 an idea that it's just another non existent terminal stands 0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:20.360 for that her Joint Air Network for employee transportation. But 0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:23.920 if you go visit the Nevada Aerospace Hall of Fame. 0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:26.960 They tell the story that there was a commander of 0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:30.120 Area fifty one named Richard A. Sampson from nineteen sixty 0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:32.879 nine to seventy one, and he chose his wife's name, 0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:36.919 Janet to identify the commuter shuttles. That's sweet, and that's 0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:41.040 that's the most romantic, super secret government story of all. 0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:46.320 So we kind of teased earlier on that the government 0:43:46.440 --> 0:43:48.319 is no longer saying like, I don't know what you're 0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:51.960 talking about, Like, no, this satellite image that we're all 0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:55.120 looking at of buildings, I don't see anything but dirt. 0:43:56.160 --> 0:44:00.719 That's all changed a little bit now because a lawsuit 0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:02.560 in the mid nineteen nineties there were a group of 0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:07.040 workers from Area fifty one that sued the government because 0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:12.759 of the it's an environmental disaster there or you know, 0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:14.600 maybe that's changing now, but it had been for many, 0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:17.239 many years because of the fact that it's a black 0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:23.400 project and so unregulated that they were just basically doing 0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:27.400 everything like dumping hazardous waste and burning it in trenches 0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:31.040 and people were there just inhaling these fumes, right and 0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:34.200 getting really sick. And a guy named Robert Frost that 0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:37.919 worked there in employee had a lot of really bad 0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:41.799 health problems. Doctor said, you were suffering from some kind 0:44:41.840 --> 0:44:44.680 of a really bad chemical reaction, and in order to 0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:46.920 treat it, we need to know what it is. And 0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:50.440 the government said, sorry, we can't tell you that, and 0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:51.120 he died. 0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:54.799 He died, and some other coworkers filed this lawsuit. One 0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:57.680 of them ended up dying too, and they finally got 0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:00.960 to like a Nevada I think, a federal circuit court 0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:03.520 that said, no, you guys don't have a right to 0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:05.200 know what you've been exposed to. 0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:07.319 Yeah, they weren't looking for money. They just wanted to 0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:09.439 know what was killing them. 0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:12.200 And the reason that they had no legal right to 0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:15.040 know was and this is that trial that I was 0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:18.840 referring to earlier, where the government representatives were saying, we like, 0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:21.880 the place that they're talking about doesn't exist. Sorry, So 0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:24.879 imagine like trying to just get past that barrier, right, 0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:27.080 You're suing the government to find out what they were 0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:31.239 burning that made you sick, but the government's in court saying, like, 0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:34.960 the place that they're talking about doesn't even exist. That's like, 0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:38.680 that's obstacle one. But the whole reason that they were 0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:41.640 burning this stuff in the first place is because Area 0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:45.120 fifty one operates under what's called the mosaic theory, and 0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:48.320 the mosaic theory is that any little piece of information 0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:52.120 a spy gets his or hands on could be fit 0:45:52.200 --> 0:45:56.520 together with other information to provide a larger picture of 0:45:56.560 --> 0:46:01.680 what's being done at Area fifty one. And as a result, 0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:05.120 nothing can come out of Area fifty. 0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:08.480 One like the chemical that's killing the people, right. 0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:11.400 Or computers that go in and are used once they 0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:15.000 get decommissioned. They get put in this pit and these trenches, 0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:17.280 and every two weeks they go out there with jet 0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:20.160 fuel and everything that's been put into the trenches over 0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:22.880 the last two weeks gets doused with jet fuel. It's 0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:25.799 set on fire with road flares, amazing, and whatever is 0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:28.920 in that smoke the workers get exposed to because for 0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:32.759 some reason, they built the trenches upwind of this this 0:46:32.920 --> 0:46:36.239 installation rather than downwind, and so people were exposed to 0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:38.400 this every two weeks for years and years and years, 0:46:38.760 --> 0:46:44.640 and things like you know, anti radar paint. The jet 0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:47.480 fuel that they're using is an accelerant. I'm sure wasn't helping, 0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:50.680 but just all sorts of exotic materials that was super 0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:56.000 super classified. This is what was killing these people, making 0:46:56.040 --> 0:46:58.719 them sick exactly, And the government said, no, this is 0:46:58.760 --> 0:47:01.319 just too classify. These people can't know. They're just going 0:47:01.400 --> 0:47:03.520 to have to go off and die untreated because we're 0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:06.799 not going to say publicly what they were exposed to. 0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:09.320 Yeah, and that's where it stood that case. 0:47:10.239 --> 0:47:16.920 They did, finally, finally in that case say okay, there's 0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:18.280 an area fifty one. 0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:21.040 I know, the whole courtroom went out for beers that 0:47:21.160 --> 0:47:22.359 day afterwards, So. 0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:23.760 There's a thing there. 0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:27.319 And that's really all we can say, sorry, is there's 0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:27.960 a thing there. 0:47:28.760 --> 0:47:30.839 But that was the very first sort of. 0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:36.840 Insight into the just that admission that there was something 0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:39.200 there was the first time that had ever happened, which 0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:41.240 is in the mid nineteen nineties. 0:47:41.520 --> 0:47:45.040 Yeah, and you were saying, like people would point the 0:47:45.080 --> 0:47:47.160 satellite images of the place and you can see that 0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:48.759 it's growing now, like you can see it on like 0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:49.440 Google Maps. 0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:51.440 Yeah, that is really new. 0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:54.080 Because it wasn't very long ago where all the satellites 0:47:54.120 --> 0:47:56.600 in space were controlled by the government, and the government 0:47:56.640 --> 0:48:00.319 could control what ended up in satellite images, so they 0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:03.880 blocked out anything any image of area fifty one, but 0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:07.320 as private firms started launching their own satellites, it became 0:48:07.360 --> 0:48:11.600 basically impossible. So just little by little, it's becoming to 0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:15.200 the point now where they're like, yes, they acknowledge something's there. No, 0:48:15.320 --> 0:48:18.200 you can't know what's going on. There is basically the 0:48:18.239 --> 0:48:19.080 status quo. 0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:19.919 Now pretty much. 0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:23.160 So that's Area fifty one. And sorry, we kind of 0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:26.920 took the government tack here and didn't really go all 0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:30.040 in on the alien theories. But I just don't think 0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:32.839 that's what it is. If you want to know more 0:48:32.840 --> 0:48:36.560 about Area fifty one, I guess just start reading about it. 0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:39.480 There's some pretty interesting stuff out there. And since I 0:48:39.560 --> 0:48:41.800 said that, it's time for a listener mail. 0:48:44.239 --> 0:48:47.240 This is about nicknames. This is from Rob Bob. 0:48:47.920 --> 0:48:49.239 Oh Yeah, I love this one. 0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:51.840 Hey guys, my name is Rob Bob, Rob and Bob 0:48:51.880 --> 0:48:56.080 combined into a singular form like Jim Bob. 0:48:55.760 --> 0:48:56.240 But better. 0:48:57.239 --> 0:48:59.200 My mom has explained to me that it started when 0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:01.200 I was about six months old. I was a really 0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:04.239 chunky kid, like in the ninety ninth percentile for weight. 0:49:05.280 --> 0:49:08.640 They felt like no other nickname like Robbie or Bobby fit, 0:49:08.800 --> 0:49:13.640 so they started calling me Rob Bob. Many years later, 0:49:13.680 --> 0:49:16.399 I meet my wife, which is almost eight years ago now, 0:49:16.840 --> 0:49:20.439 and quickly found out that her favorite writer is Richard Wright. 0:49:21.040 --> 0:49:24.120 Since reading his novel Native Son, has wanted to name 0:49:24.239 --> 0:49:27.319 her kid Richard to honor the impact he had on 0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:30.000 her life. She had visited his grave in parison as 0:49:30.000 --> 0:49:33.120 every book he ever published. When she met me, I 0:49:33.200 --> 0:49:35.920 told her about my super nicknames that I had wanted 0:49:35.920 --> 0:49:38.799 to call my kid because you see, my father is 0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:42.319 William Bill for short. But now since we came up 0:49:42.320 --> 0:49:45.719 with these weird names, I call my dad will Bill 0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:48.920 to bug him. This leads me to why I have 0:49:49.000 --> 0:49:51.840 always wanted to name my child Richard since high school. 0:49:52.239 --> 0:49:54.239 Then we would in order to have a will Bill, 0:49:54.440 --> 0:49:58.200 a Rob Bob, and a Rickdick, all in three generations 0:49:58.239 --> 0:50:02.320 of awesomeness. Wife does not approve and thinks we should 0:50:02.320 --> 0:50:03.880 look elsewhere for name ideas. 0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:06.880 With great admiration Rob Bob and Rachel. 0:50:07.800 --> 0:50:11.520 Nice. Thanks Rob Bob, good luck with that with your quest. 0:50:11.760 --> 0:50:13.319 Yeah, I don't think Rick Dick is going to fly 0:50:13.400 --> 0:50:14.120 in your household. 0:50:14.200 --> 0:50:17.080 I don't think so either. Rachel may have the cooler 0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:19.840 head here, I think so. Well, if you want to 0:50:19.840 --> 0:50:21.840 get in touch with this, like Rob Bob, did, We 0:50:21.880 --> 0:50:24.040 would love that. 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