WEBVTT - ESPN's Mike Tannenbaum & NFL Network's Mike Garafolo Discuss the Current State of the Jets, React to NFL Combine 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:02.960 Welcome into the Official Jets Podcast. 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:05.880 I Eat, Breathe, and sleep the New York Jets my team. 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:08.039 He knows what it means to wear the green and white. 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:11.039 That is a tightrope walk across Niagara Fall. 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Eric. 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:49.080 Yeah, So we did a GM round table, John Schneider, 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:52.879 Jason Light and it was just the idea of the 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:55.560 piece was to take the fans behind the curtain of 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:57.560 what's it actually like to be a jim, what does 0:00:57.600 --> 0:00:59.920 it like to make decisions, what's it like to get 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.959 between you know, the head coach and the owner and say, hey, 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:06.040 we got you know, a challenge here, a bump of 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.480 the road, what are we going to do? And two 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:12.640 Super Bowl winning gms. They were great, great stories. Touch 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:16.880 on the Brett Favre trade, Yeah, yeah. John Schneider was 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:19.240 a big part of the Green Bay Packer front office 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:21.400 when I was with the Jets, and we trade for 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:24.160 far so we went a little bit deep on that. 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:27.679 We made Jason like the commissioner of the NFL had 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:32.360 a great conversation. So NFL Live Tomorrow and other ESPN 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:33.640 digital platforms. 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:33.839 All right, cool. 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:36.840 So but for Jets fans, yeah, can we go back 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:38.560 in history to the trade. 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:38.960 Let's go. 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:44.199 Okay, so take me through because it's the summer, take 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:49.360 me through those conversations inside the building and then also 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:52.559 ultimately what led to the deal. 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:56.960 Yeah, a lot of head coaches, Brian Daball, Brian Schottenheimer, 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:59.320 Eric Mangini, we kind of all felt like, hey, Chad 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:02.880 Paynton was a really good quarterback and we were trying 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:04.960 to beat Tom Brady and the Patriots at the time, 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:07.320 and felt like, wow, nothing against Chap, but if we 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:09.400 could go get Brett Favre, let's go try to get 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:12.240 him and what he Johnson was totally on board and 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:16.000 we were battling hard you know, initially, I think Brett 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:17.919 Favre wanted to go to other places. I think it's 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:21.120 well documented in Minnesota, Tampa Bay. He had played for 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:25.120 John Gruden at Green Bay, who is now the head 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:28.480 coach of Tampa Bay. We had to compete against that. 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:30.760 So and then there was always once we made the 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:33.000 trade Eric, there was a big question like, well he 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:33.720 actually come. 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:34.960 Yeah. 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:37.639 So at the time Dave Zott was the player development guy. 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:40.160 We went down and I said, look, you know, Dave, 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.320 like Brett's coming back because we had to cut Chad 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:45.240 Paint in the stand of the cap. Whether he's coming 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:48.880 voluntarily or involuntarily, I don't know that, but he's coming. 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.239 What were those twenty four hours like for you? Because 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:56.560 I remember jumping on conference calls late that night where 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:59.200 you were addressing the media. I probably went into the 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:02.840 wee hours of the morning, and then following night Jets 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:04.919 had a preseason game in Cleveland against the Brons. 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.799 Yeah, that's exactly right. So I actually I didn't sleep. 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:13.120 I went home and basically changed clothes and then went 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:16.359 to the airport to go get them. So we did 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:19.440 do a media call, like it was very late at night. 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:23.160 Good memory and Eric, Me and Jeanie actually had a 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:26.320 cut Chad in Cleveland because they were there for the 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:29.960 preseason game. I had stayed behind because I knew what 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:31.800 was going on, and I just felt like it was 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:33.680 we had a better chance to execute this trade if 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:34.480 I was back. 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:34.800 At the office. 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:35.000 Yeah. 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:37.880 I remember people saying, Mike t that you didn't get 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:38.600 on the bus. 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:42.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah, and uh yeah, And that's kind of 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:43.680 how it all happened. 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:47.800 So what about that roster at that point, because you 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:51.160 make the trade for Farv And that team started eight 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:55.080 and three, including a thumping of the Tennessee Titans in Nashville. 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:57.360 Yeah, and Jeff Fishery jumped out of a plane before 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:00.000 the game. They were undefeated, and I pissed everybody off, 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:02.240 like he's jumping out of the plane, He's not taking 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:06.240 it seriously. And the Vernious Coals and the Daban Woodies 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:07.920 of the world, they were pissed. 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:08.880 They were really mad. 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:11.680 We had a good team, and they were really disrespected 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:13.800 that the opposing head coach would jump out of a 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:15.600 plane before the game and not take it seriously. 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:17.000 And we waxed them. 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:21.040 And I was one of those games where people were 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.200 like afterwards in the locker. I still remember that they 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:24.560 were like, who is. 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:24.960 He to do that? 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:25.560 Yeah? 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:27.640 Do you ever wonder what would have happened with the 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:32.680 eight team had not far it heard some physical injuries 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:33.279 down the stretch. 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:35.640 It was interesting when you ask guys like Damian Woody 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:39.920 or Lavernius Coals and Potato like they'll they'll tell you that, 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:41.640 you know, the team and O nine may have gone 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:45.440 to the championship game, but the eight team was actually better. 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:48.680 And sometimes that happens in football. That's what makes it, 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.760 you know, a great sport. You know, on paper, you 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:54.960 know when team certainly had more accomplishments, but uh, those 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:56.960 guys would tell you like, maybe that team and in 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:58.159 O Waight was actually better. 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:02.680 Why was Rex the right guy for you in O nine? 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:05.760 As he made the switch for Mangeni. But he comes 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:09.800 in and you talk about his approach from day one 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:10.920 when he walked into the building. 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:14.279 Yeah, I think you know, Woodie Johnson, myself, Scott Cohen, 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:16.159 I think what we saw was a guy that was 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:16.800 going to come in. 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:17.719 You know. 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:19.640 It was a little bit of a two for one Eric. 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:22.920 So Brian Schottenheimer was the offensive coordinator. We felt good 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:27.240 about Brian and keep him and that offensive structure in 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:29.480 place with a lot of really good coaches, and then 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:31.600 have Rex kind of come in and for lack of 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:33.800 a better maybe like rejuvenate the defense, give it a 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.600 little bit more of a newer look, a pressure look, 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:38.920 and we felt like it was a two for one, 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:42.840 and you know Rex came in and Rex's Rex, like yeah, 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:48.039 unabashably confident, a lot of energy, and it just worked right. 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:50.039 It was the right time with the right coach, with 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:53.159 the right roster. We had a couple you know, really 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:53.960 really fun years. 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:57.320 Did the organization need that kind of voice at that time? 0:05:57.600 --> 0:05:59.480 Yeah, I just think, like again, like give a lot 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:02.000 of credit to Scott Cohen, what do I think? We 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:03.600 just kind of felt like, yeah, this is the guy. 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:04.280 Like it was. 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:06.839 Pretty clear, you know, ironically one of the other finalists 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.719 for the job with Steve Spagnola, who's obviously got on 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:11.840 to do terrific things. I mean, you think about all 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:13.840 the great coaches we were around from day ball and 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:18.080 Shoddy and obviously Rex bags, Like, you know, there were 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:19.479 some really talented coaches. 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:23.599 What stands out more when you look back when people say, hey, 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:29.599 Mike t O nine twenty ten each of them very different, 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:31.320 unique in their own right. 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:33.000 As far as the runs are concerned. 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:35.640 Yeah, I think a couple of things stand out. I 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:39.679 thought Rex's ability to make every player feel like they mattered, 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:41.960 like a story I like to tell, like a mad 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.560 Carol Batman, he was a first round pick with the 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:46.960 Green Bay Packers at. 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.039 Corner University of Arkansas. Didn't work out. 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.960 He came in and I'll never forget this, you know, 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:53.680 Rex says to him, Hey, like, what do you like 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:57.080 to do? I like the blitz? And so his nickname 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:59.240 was Batman, so we put it into Batman Blitz. 0:06:59.560 --> 0:06:59.800 Now. 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:02.600 I don't know how many times we use the Batman 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:05.880 blitz in a game. But you talk about getting more 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:09.000 out of a guy like who's totally vested in that's 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.320 just like a little story. But like to have that 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:13.120 relatability with players is so. 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:18.640 Important, magical in terms of winning four road playoff games 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:23.520 over the course of two seasons. Do you ever Pittsburgh 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.880 that championship game? Do you think about that one more 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:27.960 than Indianapolis? 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:28.280 Yeah? 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:30.200 I do, And I got to get over at some point, 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:32.440 but you know, I look and he was a good player, 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:35.240 so don't get but like we're off the field on 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:37.360 the first drive of the game, and like fifty yards 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:39.640 away they call Antonio Cormarti for like hands to the 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:41.760 face and then they want up scoring on that drive. 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:42.280 And I think. 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:45.880 Myself, like, if nothing else in the universe ever changes, 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:49.200 but that one call, I actually think we win the 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.680 game because I think the whole game changes. You know, 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:55.760 they're off the field, we stop them. But look, it 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:58.640 was you know great. More than anything. This is a 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:01.800 relationship business. Sure, Just proud of the relationships that I 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:03.840 had with them, with a lot of those players and 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:05.120 coaches and staff to this day. 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:07.200 All right, Jets fans want to get back to the 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:13.720 postseason desperately. You know that you mentioned, you know, getting 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:18.840 back in relationships, So let's start their transitions. Bill Parcells, 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:22.360 how much of an influence has he had on your career? 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:23.280 A ton? 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:27.160 He probably a lot more about life, you know, than 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:30.320 than than anything else. And tell a quick story. So 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:34.760 you know, I'm very fortunate to be on ESPN. And ironically, 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:36.960 going back a couple of years ago, Aaron Rodgers is 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:39.720 with the Packers and it's clear like he wants out 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.880 and we're on air, and you know, the first hour 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:44.959 for whatever reason. That day I was a little bit 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:47.600 more pro player, saying, like, you know, Greenie, if he 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:48.920 doesn't want to be a packer, they. 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:49.880 Should just let him move on. 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.880 And you know, for whatever reason, I just kind of 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.760 like that day was like definitely leaning towards more like 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:57.760 the player side of the situation. 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:00.840 And between the eight and nine we had a little 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:01.280 bit of a break. 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:03.320 So I'm checking my phone and it's a text on 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:06.199 coach of ourselves, like, don't ever tell anybody who work 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.360 for me. It's embarrassing. What does a contract actually mean? 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:12.840 So the producer gets in my ear and says, hey, 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.800 the A block of the nine o'clock hour is going 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:17.360 to be the same as the A block of the 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:20.240 eight o'clock hour. Your answers were great to say, you know, 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:22.840 run it back. So Greeney comes to me. He's like, so, 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:24.960 Mike Wi, should you know the Green Bay Packers do 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.959 with our And I'm like, you know, Greene contracts a contract. 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:29.920 I mean, you know, if he doesn't want to be there, 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:32.680 they should find him, they should suspend him. And I 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:34.520 was like I had a gut, like a pit in 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:36.760 my stomach, like I still work for the guy. It's 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:41.280 been twenty plus years, and he's just such a special guy. 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:44.240 You know, I see him pretty regularly now and we 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:48.320 talk about life and politics and religion and racial matters, 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:51.560 and he has so much wisdom about our country. You know, 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:54.079 sometimes like football doesn't even come up. 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:57.559 Is he the best program builder in the history of 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:58.200 this league? 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.200 You know, certainly he's up the you know, look, I'm 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:02.800 really fortunate. You know, I got a chance to work 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:05.880 for coach Belichick too, who's in that conversation with Bill Walsh, 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.720 Like those guys are amongst the best of all time. 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:12.840 And to take you know, four different teams to the playoffs, 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.040 is you know, something that no one else has ever done. 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:19.200 All Right, So he had such a huge influence on 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:23.560 Aaron Glenn as well. Let's go back to AG's playing career. 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:27.000 He started in ninety four with the Jets, and of 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:30.600 course you were there we view Bank call Hofstra. 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:32.880 What was Aaron like as a player? 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:35.959 A lot of the same attributes you've seen now. Look 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:37.600 he's been on the job now for ten minutes. I 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.080 get like it's not been that long, but the same 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:44.440 attributes you're seeing, Like someone that's very like serious minded, 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:48.160 very focused, very driven, does not suffer fool as well. 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:53.439 A kind compassionate person, but who's very, very competitive. 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.160 You're not going to tell us too much what happened 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:59.440 behind those closed doors. But what was he like during 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:01.000 the interviews this time around? 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:02.680 Yeah, you know, Eric, it's what you see is what 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:05.200 you get, Like, it's really not a mystery. Like he's 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.520 you know, gotten the most out of players at you know, 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:08.640 a few different stops. 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:09.960 He's paid his dues. 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:11.920 You go back to twenty twelve when he started with 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:14.440 the Jets as a scout and just worked his way 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:19.040 up and grind it. So he's a rare, rare guy, 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:22.480 you know. And I know how hard he worked at scouting. 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.679 I know how hard he's worked at coaching. He paid 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:27.800 his dues. You know, sometimes you see people not work 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:30.280 out because they've gone from you know, a position coach 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:33.080 to a head coach. Like he's done it the right 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.480 way and he's had success at every stop. 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:40.520 Exhausted searches that land the Jets. Aaron Glenn and Darren Mougi. 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:45.360 What was it like working with the guys this time around? 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:47.720 You know, Woody Johnson for a long time, you've worked 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:51.240 with them before. Obviously you're a member, a founder of 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:53.199 the thirty third team, and you were working with Rix 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:55.280 s Pielman as well in support of the search. 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:59.680 Yeah, and Christopher Johnson and Jimi el High team president. 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:02.679 Like it was it was I tell you, like, it's 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:04.640 kind of it's gonna sound like weird to say this, 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:06.680 Like there was a little part of me. It was 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:09.680 like I was almost sad when it was over because 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.560 it was so much fun. Yeah, and I learned so much. 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:17.040 It was an unbelievable experience. I mean, we talked to 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:20.400 so many people and just to learn from so many 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:26.040 disparate you know, approaches and backgrounds and just it was awesome. Like, 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:29.679 I really enjoyed it. It was long, it was detailed 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:32.360 a lot of hours, but it was a great group 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:35.080 of people that I think, you know, if you would ask, 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:39.400 you know, Woody or Christopher High, me Rick, Like, I 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:41.840 think we just kind of enjoyed being around one another. 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:45.320 It was it was a like I said, it was 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:46.640 a really fun process. 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:50.080 How unique is Age's journey When you're talking about a 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:53.480 guy who played here first round pick in ninety four 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:56.000 coming out of Texas and place fifteen seasons in the 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:59.640 National Football League, you hire them as a scout two 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:01.600 thousand and twelve. He works a couple of years on 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.760 the pro side and the college scout inside, and then 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:08.240 works his way up as an assistant assistant coach, starting 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:10.679 off with the Cleveland Browns, of course, working with Sean 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:14.880 Payton and New Orleans, and then finally working as a 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:17.320 defensive coordinator under Dan Campbell Detroit. 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:21.360 Yeah, he, like I said, he's earned it all. Like 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:25.240 you know, there's no part of him that doesn't deserve this, 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.840 you know, opportunity again. And that's not to say, like 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:29.800 you know, there won't be bumps in the road along 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:32.679 the way, Eric, but like he he has been around 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:36.280 a lot of disparate guys from Sean Dan coach parcels 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.360 like and knowing Aaron, He'll take all of those and 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:41.400 he'll be his own guy. Like he's very comfortable in 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:44.400 his own skin. He'll have the hard conversations like all 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:46.520 those things are you know, really important. 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:47.680 And I think it's kind of cool. 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:51.600 There's now five current NFL hit coaches that played for 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:54.439 the team that they're now coaching from. Coach Harbaugh in 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.880 uh Los Angeles with the Chargers Dan Campbell, as we 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:01.360 mentioned in Detroit, Domingo, Ryans Houston, and Mike Rable in 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:01.760 New England. 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:03.880 That's a great stat you're starting out there. That's your 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:09.160 ESPN knowledge, you're analysis coming up here. So let's talk 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.839 about Darren Muci. I don't think a lot of Jets 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:15.880 fans knew about Mooge at the beginning of this process, 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:19.840 but now he's been on the job here over a month. Well, 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:23.160 what stood out to you guys about Darren during this 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:23.680 whole thing? 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:27.200 Yeah, he was like very thorough, he was thoughtful. He 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:30.320 certainly had a plan, you know, he had I know 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:32.440 people will say, like he's young, but he's had a 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:35.800 lot of experience in different roles, and when there's ownership 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:39.200 changes or leadership changes and someone gets more responsibility, that's 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:41.800 typically a pretty good indicy of someone that's you know, 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:46.040 very talented, very well thought of and again, like similar 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.120 to ag like he's checked a lot of the boxes 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:49.160 and he's earned this right. 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:52.960 As a first time GM, which you were, you have 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:56.400 that experience. Well, what are going to be some of 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:59.080 the eye opening things for Darren in this role? 0:14:59.280 --> 0:14:59.480 Yeah? 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:02.240 Well, I would say to NFL Live Tomorrow and ESPN 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:05.080 because we talk a lot about the first question actually 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:08.400 in the roundtable is what do you know today that 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:10.160 you wish you know on the first day of the job. 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.400 And we kind of had to laugh about like, you know, 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:15.440 you manage generally, that's what a GM does, but you 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:18.960 know it just look, I was lucky. I was the 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.000 assistant GM for five years of the New York Jets 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.440 before I became the GM, and when I got the position, 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:25.520 I was lucky enough to get the position. I had 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.520 no idea what I was getting to and it could be, Hey, 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:30.880 this person wants a new title, this person feels like 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:33.760 they're underpaid. You know, this person is going through like 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:38.840 a personal situation, this player's just changed agents, whatever it 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:41.520 could be. And it's like, oh my gosh, Like I 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:44.320 thought we were like, you know, watching film or you know, 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:47.840 trying sad like and some of your most productive days 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:49.160 you're not even behind your desk. 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:53.600 How important is that relationship between GM and high coaching. 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:56.600 What have you seen in the early stages from Aaron 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:59.080 and Darren that you're encouraged by. 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:02.359 Yeah, I think there's like mutual respect and good communication. 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.200 And you know, on this round table, I said, look, 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:07.160 at the end of the day, like I it's such 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:09.680 a hard and complicated job. Like if I was shoulder 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:11.640 shoulder with the head coach and owner, I didn't care 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:13.160 about the rest. I could handle the age and I 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.680 could handle the media. But it was those two people 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:17.160 that were critical to have alignment with. 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:18.280 So we're coming full circle. 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:23.040 We started off this conversation talking about your trade for 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:26.920 Brett Favre as GM and the New York Jets. What 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:30.480 does this leadership team have in front of them at 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:31.520 the quarterback position? 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:33.960 Right now? We know Tyra Taylor in the building. 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:35.920 You got a couple of young passers as well, Jordan 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:37.840 Travis was on a FI last year. 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.040 Agri and Martinez in house. 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:43.840 But we're a couple of days now away from free 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:46.120 agency and then that will be followed by the draft. 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:48.320 Yeah, it's a great opportunity, you know, And I think 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:50.480 that's like in a perfect world, how things work. You 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:53.240 reset with a in this case, head coach GM, and 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:57.440 obviously hopefully the quarterback you know, follows, you know, quickly behind, 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:00.000 and you know, sometimes you can get all done year one, 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.360 sometimes you can't. But I can totally understand, you know, 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:04.840 why they made the decision they made. 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:10.400 But Moji, did you like what you hear from him 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:14.240 as far as a decision maker is concerned, when he 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:17.840 says at number seven, I'm open to moving up, I'm 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:19.440 open to move him back. 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:21.040 Because he's going to keep all options open. 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:21.320 Yeah. 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:23.600 Absolutely, yeah, No, he's running the right play about one 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:25.919 hundred percent. And look we're sitting here. It's the end 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:28.600 of February. Free agency is still several weeks away, the 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:32.040 drafts a couple of months away. So absolutely you got 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:34.800 to get all the information that make the best decision possible. 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:37.320 What's the first steps for this team in terms of 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:40.119 with the new regime, once you get these guys on 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:44.720 the field, in terms of setting third tone, the way 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:45.840 they want to run things. 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:48.800 Yo, go back to the beginning with Coach Parcels. I remember, 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:52.359 you know, first being like I'm in there. It's nineteen 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:54.160 ninety seven and he's just talking about, Hey, we're gonna 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:57.280 have less injuries this year. The ninety six Jets had 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:00.399 too many injuries and they won one game seven, we 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:03.400 won nine ninety eight. We were in the championship game, 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:06.000 and Coach Parcels, if he was sitting right here, we 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:08.320 talked about it was the off season program being more 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:12.840 conditioned and whatever the record is, Like, I would expect 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:15.399 this team to be really well coached, and you'll you 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.840 look at conditioning, you look at penalties, you look at 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:23.280