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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Official Jets Podcast.

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Speaker 2: That's Mike tan Obauma.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Mike, you just taped something here at Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: at the NFL Combine, a GM Roundtable. Can you talk

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Speaker 1: about the genesis of that and when that production is

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Speaker 1: actually going to air?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I appreciate that. Eric.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So we did a GM round table, John Schneider,

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Speaker 5: Jason Light and it was just the idea of the

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Speaker 5: piece was to take the fans behind the curtain of

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Speaker 5: what's it actually like to be a jim, what does

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Speaker 5: it like to make decisions, what's it like to get

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Speaker 5: between you know, the head coach and the owner and say, hey,

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Speaker 5: we got you know, a challenge here, a bump of

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Speaker 5: the road, what are we going to do? And two

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl winning gms. They were great, great stories. Touch

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Speaker 5: on the Brett Favre trade, Yeah, yeah. John Schneider was

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Speaker 5: a big part of the Green Bay Packer front office

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Speaker 5: when I was with the Jets, and we trade for

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Speaker 5: far so we went a little bit deep on that.

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Speaker 5: We made Jason like the commissioner of the NFL had

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Speaker 5: a great conversation. So NFL Live Tomorrow and other ESPN

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Speaker 5: digital platforms.

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Speaker 2: All right, cool.

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Speaker 1: So but for Jets fans, yeah, can we go back

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Speaker 1: in history to the trade.

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Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so take me through because it's the summer, take

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Speaker 1: me through those conversations inside the building and then also

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Speaker 1: ultimately what led to the deal.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of head coaches, Brian Daball, Brian Schottenheimer,

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Speaker 5: Eric Mangini, we kind of all felt like, hey, Chad

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Speaker 5: Paynton was a really good quarterback and we were trying

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Speaker 5: to beat Tom Brady and the Patriots at the time,

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Speaker 5: and felt like, wow, nothing against Chap, but if we

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Speaker 5: could go get Brett Favre, let's go try to get

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Speaker 5: him and what he Johnson was totally on board and

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Speaker 5: we were battling hard you know, initially, I think Brett

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Speaker 5: Favre wanted to go to other places. I think it's

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Speaker 5: well documented in Minnesota, Tampa Bay. He had played for

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Speaker 5: John Gruden at Green Bay, who is now the head

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Speaker 5: coach of Tampa Bay. We had to compete against that.

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Speaker 5: So and then there was always once we made the

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Speaker 5: trade Eric, there was a big question like, well he

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Speaker 5: actually come.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So at the time Dave Zott was the player development guy.

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Speaker 5: We went down and I said, look, you know, Dave,

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Speaker 5: like Brett's coming back because we had to cut Chad

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Speaker 5: voluntarily or involuntarily, I don't know that, but he's coming.

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Speaker 1: What were those twenty four hours like for you? Because

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Speaker 1: I remember jumping on conference calls late that night where

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Speaker 1: you were addressing the media. I probably went into the

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Speaker 1: wee hours of the morning, and then following night Jets

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's exactly right. So I actually I didn't sleep.

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Speaker 5: I went home and basically changed clothes and then went

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Speaker 5: do a media call, like it was very late at night.

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Speaker 5: Good memory and Eric, Me and Jeanie actually had a

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Speaker 5: cut Chad in Cleveland because they were there for the

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Speaker 5: preseason game. I had stayed behind because I knew what

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Speaker 5: we had a better chance to execute this trade if

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Speaker 5: I was back.

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Speaker 3: At the office.

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Speaker 1: I remember people saying, Mike t that you didn't get

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and uh yeah, And that's kind of

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Speaker 1: So what about that roster at that point, because you

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Speaker 1: make the trade for Farv And that team started eight

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and Jeff Fishery jumped out of a plane before

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Speaker 3: They were really mad.

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Speaker 5: We had a good team, and they were really disrespected

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Speaker 3: And we waxed them.

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Speaker 5: And I was one of those games where people were

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Speaker 3: He to do that?

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Speaker 1: Do you ever wonder what would have happened with the

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Speaker 5: It was interesting when you ask guys like Damian Woody

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Speaker 5: you know, the team and O nine may have gone

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Speaker 5: And sometimes that happens in football. That's what makes it,

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Speaker 5: you know, a great sport. You know, on paper, you

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Speaker 5: know when team certainly had more accomplishments, but uh, those

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Speaker 5: O Waight was actually better.

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Speaker 1: Why was Rex the right guy for you in O nine?

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Speaker 1: As he made the switch for Mangeni. But he comes

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: It was a little bit of a two for one Eric.

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Speaker 5: So Brian Schottenheimer was the offensive coordinator. We felt good

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Speaker 5: unabashably confident, a lot of energy, and it just worked right.

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Speaker 5: It was the right time with the right coach, with

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Speaker 1: Did the organization need that kind of voice at that time?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just think, like again, like give a lot

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Speaker 3: Like it was.

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Speaker 5: to do terrific things. I mean, you think about all

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Speaker 1: What stands out more when you look back when people say, hey,

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Speaker 1: Mike t O nine twenty ten each of them very different,

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Speaker 2: As far as the runs are concerned.

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Speaker 5: thought Rex's ability to make every player feel like they mattered,

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Speaker 5: like a story I like to tell, like a mad

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Speaker 5: Carol Batman, he was a first round pick with the

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Speaker 5: He came in and I'll never forget this, you know,

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Speaker 5: Rex says to him, Hey, like, what do you like

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how many times we use the Batman

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Speaker 5: just like a little story. But like to have that

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Speaker 1: Important, magical in terms of winning four road playoff games

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Speaker 1: over the course of two seasons. Do you ever Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: that championship game? Do you think about that one more

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Speaker 5: Myself, like, if nothing else in the universe ever changes,

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Speaker 5: relationship business. Sure, Just proud of the relationships that I

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Speaker 1: All right, Jets fans want to get back to the

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Speaker 1: postseason desperately. You know that you mentioned, you know, getting

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Speaker 1: back in relationships, So let's start their transitions. Bill Parcells,

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Speaker 1: how much of an influence has he had on your career?

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Speaker 3: A ton?

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Speaker 5: He probably a lot more about life, you know, than

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Speaker 5: So I'm checking my phone and it's a text on

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Speaker 5: coach of ourselves, like, don't ever tell anybody who work

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Speaker 5: for me. It's embarrassing. What does a contract actually mean?

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Speaker 5: So the producer gets in my ear and says, hey,

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Speaker 5: eight o'clock hour. Your answers were great to say, you know,

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Speaker 5: run it back. So Greeney comes to me. He's like, so,

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Speaker 5: been twenty plus years, and he's just such a special guy.

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Speaker 5: You know, I see him pretty regularly now and we

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Speaker 1: That's a great stat you're starting out there. That's your

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Speaker 1: How important is that relationship between GM and high coaching.

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Speaker 2: So we're coming full circle.

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Speaker 2: Right now? We know Tyra Taylor in the building.

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Speaker 1: But Moji, did you like what you hear from him

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Speaker 1: What's the first steps for this team in terms of

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Speaker 1: lot of small percentage of that happening. But if you're

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Speaker 1: Tennessee and people say, hey, maybe they would look to

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Speaker 1: upgrade the quarterback position, you're staring at cam Ward, but

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Speaker 1: then you're also staring at a guy like Abduall Carter

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Speaker 1: who could be a potential game wrecker in the defensive

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Speaker 1: side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: Can you weigh that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you have to factor all those things.

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Speaker 5: And if you're Tennessee, you want to have your roster

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Speaker 5: set to the extent you can so you can have flexibility.

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Speaker 5: And obviously you know their decision in parts going to

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Speaker 5: wait in what's you know, Brian Callahan and Mike Borganzhi's

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Speaker 5: evaluation on Will Levis and that will factor in, you know,

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Speaker 5: quite a bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a final thought, I just wanted to get your

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Speaker 1: analysis on the quarterback class here this year because we

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Speaker 1: mentioned cam Ward, but Anders, Jackson, Dart.

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Speaker 2: And well you could continue to name the names.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to see six quarterbacks taken in the

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Speaker 1: first twelve overall selections, but do you like maybe potentially

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Speaker 1: some developmental prospects down the line, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, I do like Shug from Louisville, like very interesting guy.

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Speaker 5: Started off, he was, of all things, justin Herbert's backup

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Speaker 5: at Oregon, goes to Texas Tech, dealt with some injuries

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Speaker 5: long way. I thought he was very good in mobile,

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Speaker 5: talking about the Senior Bowl. Anxious to see what he

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Speaker 5: does here. He's just one of you know a few others.

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Speaker 5: Riley Leonard, who was a basketball player until his junior

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Speaker 5: in high school, quarterback that start off at Duke, did

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Speaker 5: really well, transfer to Notre Dame, did some things in

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Speaker 5: mobile that were encouraging and things that he's still gonna

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Speaker 5: have to work on. But you know, a big, long,

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Speaker 5: good looking athlete. Jalen Milroe, another guy that flashed in mobile.

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Speaker 5: So there's some guys that will be you know, developmental

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Speaker 5: that you know will be interesting to follow.

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Speaker 2: Enjoyed it as always.

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Speaker 1: I know you're going to keep a keen eye on

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Speaker 1: North Carolina next year.

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Speaker 2: Can you talk about the football program and their.

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Speaker 5: Latest our son, Jacob's gonna be a long snapper for them,

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Speaker 5: and it's a position that he's earned and their remarkable job.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, I didn't think that Mike Son would be

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Speaker 5: playing for coach bellchecking Kyle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who would have thought that back in the day

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Speaker 1: when you guys were walking the halls at the Weaview

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Speaker 1: Bank and now your son is playing for Bill Beljicks.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy.

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Speaker 3: It is crazy.

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Speaker 2: Hey, hey man, great, see you.

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Speaker 3: All right, Thanks so much.

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Speaker 2: What's this week like for you? With free agency on

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Speaker 2: the horizon?

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Speaker 1: Everybody here including agents, all thirty two teams represented, and

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Speaker 1: then you got hundreds of prospects here and the drafts

498
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Speaker 1: right around the corner.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's uh, we're jugglingmultiple things and we're starting to

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Speaker 6: gather information for the Draft. It's like, you know, it

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Speaker 6: starts actually at the Senior Bowl when we're down there

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Speaker 6: and just kind of like one eye on the prospects

503
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Speaker 6: because that's three steps.

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Speaker 2: Down the road and we've got free agency.

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Speaker 6: In the meantime, we've got trades that could potentially happen,

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Speaker 6: guys that.

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Speaker 2: Are going to be released.

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Speaker 6: It's it's you leave here and you go I can't

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Speaker 6: believe I didn't get a chance to talk to X.

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Speaker 6: Your list you go in, I've I've gone in and

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Speaker 6: I've made lists and say I've got to these are

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Speaker 6: the people I have to see, and I never complete

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Speaker 6: the list because it's just it's it's too many people

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Speaker 6: here trying to conduct their business, get their stuff done.

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Speaker 6: But that's a good thing, right, It's it means it's

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Speaker 6: a game that everybody's interested in. The off season is

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Speaker 6: as entertaining as the regular season, sometimes in a different way, obviously,

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Speaker 6: but it keeps it keeps everybody engaged.

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Speaker 2: Three sixty five.

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Speaker 1: Jets again busy this offseason. Have a new leadership team,

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Speaker 1: Aaron g Darren Mugi. What are people around the lead

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Speaker 1: saying about the fires?

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Speaker 6: A lot of respect for for Darren Moogie and what

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Speaker 6: he's done and what he was able to do in

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Speaker 6: Denver in numerous roles, right and also being part of

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Speaker 6: regime changes there, so seeing how things multiple times, seeing

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Speaker 6: how the table was reset, what worked, what didn't work.

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Speaker 6: And I know that he came in and really did

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Speaker 6: a good job of communicating what his plan was going

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Speaker 6: to be, more so than a lot of other guys

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Speaker 6: that they interviewed, and a clear vision for what he

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Speaker 6: wanted to do. That's the best thing. I mean, it's

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Speaker 6: never you've got a clear vision. It may not work,

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Speaker 6: but you want you want somebody who comes in has

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Speaker 6: a planet and be able to execute and you go, Okay,

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Speaker 6: that guy had a plan. So I know that there's

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Speaker 6: a lot of respect for what he was able to do.

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Speaker 6: As for Aaron Glenn, the way that they really established

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Speaker 6: a culture in Detroit has really impressed people. And and

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Speaker 6: and the way that he has progressed from a former

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Speaker 6: player into his coaching career, a smooth transition. A guy

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Speaker 6: who was h a really good coordinator and a great

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Speaker 6: motivator too. I mean, that's to me, we focus way

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Speaker 6: too much on here's a guy as a coordinator, that's

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Speaker 6: gonna make him a good hit.

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Speaker 2: That's not it.

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Speaker 6: It's not necessarily that, certainly from an extent, it's who

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Speaker 6: can run the operation. And they did a great job

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Speaker 6: of it in Detroit, and feel like he learned a

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Speaker 6: lot and is able to set it up for the

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Speaker 6: Jets for what he wants to do.

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Speaker 2: How much is his voice?

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Speaker 1: AG's gonna resonate throughout the building and inside the lockow.

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Speaker 6: It's gonna be huge, there's no doubt about it. And

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Speaker 6: you saw his interactions with the media. Listen from the beginning,

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Speaker 6: from the beginning of the search, before the search, actually,

557
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Speaker 6: who can handle the New York market was going to

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Speaker 6: be a big part of this whole thing, and his

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Speaker 6: name was the name that came to the forefront first

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Speaker 6: and foremost because they knew a guy that already had

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Speaker 6: experience in this market and his so strong will that

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Speaker 6: you see in his interactions with the media, the way

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Speaker 6: that he's able to handle those things, that's how it's

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Speaker 6: going to be internally. And you know, he already had

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Speaker 6: the Quinn Williams thing with the tweet that was taken

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Speaker 6: down and uh, showing already that he can handle that

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Speaker 6: and and make it clear like we're we're going to

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Speaker 6: be uh stronger from the inside now as an organization,

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Speaker 6: uh and and and work together here and make sure

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Speaker 6: that uh the strength is inside that locker room and

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Speaker 6: inside the building. He's already establishing that, I believe quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: Jets announced that they're gonna part ways from Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: He's still on the roster. We'll have to find out

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Speaker 1: what that ultimately looks like. If it is a juvene

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Speaker 1: one designation. You got Tyrod Taylor in the house, you

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Speaker 1: got a couple of young passers. Do you anticipate the

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Speaker 1: Jets addressing the quarterback position in free agency and draft.

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Speaker 6: Uh in free in both? Yeah, Well I think yeah,

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Speaker 6: or and or. The problem could Yeah. The problem is

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Speaker 6: there's a lot of teams that are trying to do that.

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Speaker 6: And I've heard that from multiple gms, uh talking about

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Speaker 6: how different avenues can get you to the answer. They've cited,

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Speaker 6: you know, back when the Seahawks difford multiple gms cite

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Speaker 6: this this offseason. For some reason, everybody remembers twenty ten

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Speaker 6: now where the Seahawks traded for Charlie Whitehurst and the

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Speaker 6: next year they signed Matt Flanlin and they drafted Russell

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Speaker 6: Wilson and in the end they said, we're just gonna

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Speaker 6: go with the guy that we think and Russell was

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Speaker 6: the best option for them, so they went with him,

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Speaker 6: and it turned out to be the right decision, obviously.

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Speaker 6: So if everybody's doing that, there aren't enough guys to fill.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: So somebody's gonna say, well, we really want to go

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Speaker 6: after free free agent, and there's that cluster of free agents,

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Speaker 6: whether it's I mean, I include Matthew Stafford from a

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Speaker 6: trade standpoint, whether it's Stafford, Darnold, you know, Derek Carr

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Speaker 6: might be free, Aaron Rodgers, you know, all these guys,

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Speaker 6: and they might have that idea of but we're gonna

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Speaker 6: get one of those guys. Well, if eight teams are

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Speaker 6: going for five guys, then the other three then it's

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Speaker 6: gonna have to be whether it's Wilson or whether it's

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Speaker 6: Jacobe Prissett or one of those guys. I think then

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Speaker 6: you're into a realm of player that Tyrod Taylor fits.

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Speaker 6: You've already got that, you know what I mean. So

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Speaker 6: if you go after that first tier, that's right, and

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Speaker 6: everybody else so you stick with Tyron Taylor, which I

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Speaker 6: think is a good option.

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Speaker 2: Would be we counted this the other day.

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Speaker 6: I think it's the fourth time he would be a

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Speaker 6: bridge quarterback potentially, And I don't mean that to demean him.

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Speaker 6: I think it's actually a compliment to him, the fact

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Speaker 6: that he's been trusted with that role before. To get

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Speaker 6: yourself to a young quarterback, whether it's not even this year,

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Speaker 6: it could be you know, you draft a quarterback in

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Speaker 6: the second third, fourth round, it doesn't pan out, that's okay.

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Speaker 6: That's much better than taking a swing in the top

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Speaker 6: ten and it doesn't work out, because then you can

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Speaker 6: come back next year and say, well, we took a

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Speaker 6: shot later on, but now we're really.

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Speaker 2: Going to take a bigger spike, a good transition, good segue.

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Speaker 2: Jets at seven. Yeah. Do you anticipate them not being

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Speaker 2: in the quarterback business early in the draft? Do I

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Speaker 2: anticipate them not being in the guest?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I do, because I don't think that this is

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Speaker 6: the draft where you're going to force that, yep. And

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Speaker 6: there's not a lot of cam Ward seems to be

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Speaker 6: the guy that is the consensus number one, and most

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Speaker 6: people think, well that's a guy, right, whereas Shidor Sanders's

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Speaker 6: Eyety the beholder. You're seeing evaluations for him all over

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Speaker 6: the board. You know, Jackson Dart's going to be in

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Speaker 6: the conversation Quinn you were might get himself in there

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Speaker 6: as well. But those guys are not being looked at

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Speaker 6: as you know, top ten take them now type guys.

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Speaker 2: So my anticipation is that they stay put and now.

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Speaker 6: They're looking at some value elsewhere, whether it's the tight

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Speaker 6: end from Penn State or some of these guys.

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Speaker 2: Tyler Warren that Tyler Warren Warren, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Who who really is being talked about as a complete

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Speaker 6: prospect in a way that and I don't know that

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Speaker 6: he makes the seven by the way. I'm so we'll

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Speaker 6: see how that goes. But you know there's talent that

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Speaker 6: you had, certainly in the top temperature.

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Speaker 1: Interesting offseason ahead for these guys, Glenn and Mugi, starting

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Speaker 1: with free agency, because the Jets several needs. You go

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Speaker 1: back in the defensive backfield and stay safety. You can say,

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Speaker 1: opposite saus Gardner, who's going to be playing cornerback because

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Speaker 1: DJ tjer Rady has got an expiring contract. Brandon Nichols

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Speaker 1: his backup as an inspiring contract. Jamie Sherwood a team

650
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Speaker 1: MVP last year at the linebacker position.

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Speaker 2: He's on a restricted free agent.

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Speaker 1: You have a couple of defensive tackles that aren't restricted

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Speaker 1: who played next to Quinn and Williams. And then the

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Speaker 1: offensive side of the Paul we talked about quarterback tight

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Speaker 1: on Tyler Conklin. He look at Moses, Yeah, said more

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Speaker 1: Moses as well, So he's gonna have interest. By the way,

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Speaker 1: this is so how do you assess that when when

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Speaker 1: we when we just start discussing top of the line,

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Speaker 1: their free agents and their needs, how do you assess

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Speaker 1: their priorities?

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Speaker 6: It's well, you tell me who they're retaining, right, because

662
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Speaker 6: it's not even their guys that they drafted.

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Speaker 2: It's a completely different receipt, right.

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Speaker 6: So a lot of a lot of times you could

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Speaker 6: fall in love with a Sherwood and say, Okay, these guys.

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Speaker 2: This guy's been with us, uh the last.

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Speaker 6: Couple of years, and he's really become an integral piece

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Speaker 6: and deserves that to be thrown into the mix there

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Speaker 6: as a starter. And I think he's gonna have a

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Speaker 6: lot of interest as well. And you're seeing what Zach

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Speaker 6: Bond meant to the Eagles, by the way, so all

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Speaker 6: of a sudden, the off the ball linebacker kind of

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Speaker 6: like the running back becoming in vogue again a little

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Speaker 6: bit with some teams. So uh yeah, I think the

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Speaker 6: the cornerback position certainly is important for a for a

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Speaker 6: coach who was a cornerback, the player is a defensive

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Speaker 6: minded guy, so I'd say that that's a priority. And

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Speaker 6: even if they bring back even if they bring back

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Speaker 6: DJ Reid, you know, add another one. You know you

680
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Speaker 6: need you need three, you need four and uh, Detroit

681
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Speaker 6: certainly did a good job of that with their personnel

682
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Speaker 6: to make sure that they were stacked at that position,

683
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 6: had a stable of guys as well. So I think

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Speaker 6: I think cornerback is certainly a priority for them. You know,

685
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Speaker 6: defensive tackle is gonna be tough because these guys are

686
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 6: gonna get paid. There's gonna be the haves and the

687
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Speaker 6: have nots. Though at defensive tackle position, you're gonna see

688
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Speaker 6: guys like Milton Williams make a ton of money. Oh

689
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Speaker 6: so I think hezilla are gonna make a ton of money.

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Speaker 6: I don't think you have to go certainly there. If

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Speaker 6: you've got Quinn and Williams sense it's so deep in

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Speaker 6: the draft, right, exactly right, exactly right. So I think

693
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Speaker 6: I think you're gonna have the guys take the big swings.

694
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Speaker 6: Then there's gonna be a huge drop off. They'll be

695
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Speaker 6: guys Sheldon Rankins, the former jet is gonna be is

696
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 6: already available. Excuse me, So I think he'll make some money.

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Speaker 6: You'll have some guys in that realm. But yeah, I

698
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Speaker 6: don't think you have to go that route. If you

699
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 6: certainly got a dominic guy like Quinn. I don't think

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Speaker 6: you have to make that necessarily a priority to go

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Speaker 6: big in free agency.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's something that I think is flying under the radar.

703
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Speaker 2: By the way, you mentioned Conklin. Apparently he's got some

704
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Speaker 2: interest around the league as well.

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Speaker 1: Too, interesting, because the other thing that these guys have

706
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Speaker 1: to do is assess the roster because maybe the old

707
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: regime thought differently as some of these guys, and then

708
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Speaker 1: you have new coordinators across the board. Anything catch your

709
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Speaker 1: eye there as far as Glenn's hires, respectively, when you're

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Speaker 1: speaking about Tanner Angstron who came over from Detroit, passing

711
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Speaker 1: game coordinator, Steve Wilkes, experienced guy who's done everything in

712
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Speaker 1: the National Football League, like Chris Banjo who played under

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Speaker 1: Glenn in New Orleans and was most recently assistant special

714
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Speaker 1: teams coordinator with the Problem.

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Speaker 6: And you saw how much interest there was in Banjo

716
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Speaker 6: because he had multiple interviews this offseason. So he's considered

717
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Speaker 6: a blossoming stud in the coaching industry as well. I

718
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Speaker 6: love Steve Wilkes. I thought he got an extremely raw

719
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Speaker 6: deal in San Francisco two years ago, and somebody had

720
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Speaker 6: to take the blame for that Super Bowl loss that

721
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Speaker 6: wound up being him, and things weren't much better once

722
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Speaker 6: he left there.

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Speaker 2: So Steve Steve.

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Speaker 6: I also think Steve is and I've said this before,

725
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Speaker 6: he's a good coordinator. I think he's got the chops

726
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Speaker 6: to be a great head coach, and I don't think

727
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Speaker 6: he got a fair shake in Arizona or Carolina, where

728
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Speaker 6: he led them to a six and six record, I

729
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Speaker 6: believe for a team that was struggling as an interim

730
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Speaker 6: head coach and then didn't get real serious consideration for

731
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Speaker 6: the job there because they wanted an offensive guy and

732
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Speaker 6: then wound up hiring Frank Reich, who was gone quickly

733
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Speaker 6: in the mid It's just it's it's Steve Wilks is

734
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Speaker 6: a great hire and he'll be able to give Aaron

735
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Speaker 6: Glenn the experience of, Hey, I've been in that chair twice.

736
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Speaker 6: Once he's an interim, once is a full time guy

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Speaker 6: to help him get get movement as a head coach.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're going to get you out of here,

739
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Speaker 1: but state true case. You can pick any card here.

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Speaker 1: As far as since we've been talking a little bit

741
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Speaker 1: about pro free agency, pick a card and then anyway, Yeah, okay,

742
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Speaker 1: you're going right off the top.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, Ah, this is actually a good one.

744
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: So this is a good one. This is a guy

745
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Speaker 2: going right off the top.

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Speaker 6: When you when I've when you get a a GM

747
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 6: or a head coach who comes in and you can

748
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 6: get a guy who has been with him before. In

749
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Speaker 6: Carlton Davis, I probably should say the name. You get

750
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Speaker 6: a guy who's been with him before. That helps set

751
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Speaker 6: the tone for the other guys there to say, I

752
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Speaker 6: can translate what he wants, what he's expecting, uh, to

753
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Speaker 6: those guys that have already been there. Uh, that is

754
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Speaker 6: extremely helpful. Plus he's I mean, he's a good player

755
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Speaker 6: as well. I don't mean to make it just seem

756
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Speaker 6: like he's an honorary coach, but uh, I.

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Speaker 3: Like that one.

758
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Speaker 1: It's a good fit for the Jets right there. There

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Speaker 1: you go the three card Monty, you're card mont You're

760
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Speaker 1: a good fit for the Jets as well. Because I'm

761
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Speaker 1: hearing that, Hey, when you're on Jets platforms, people are

762
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Speaker 1: consuming people.

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Speaker 6: My Jets, I mean my Jet fan friends, and there

764
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Speaker 6: are plenty of them. Uh, they're watching this now. So

765
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Speaker 6: so when Jets drive or whatever. It's always like, dude,

766
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Speaker 6: saw you on that great awesome or you know you're

767
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 6: an idiot at that too, but they see it, well,

768
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Speaker 6: we all do.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we can circle back and see what the Jets

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Speaker 1: actually did in free agency at the league meetings.

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Speaker 2: Here in a couple of weeks, I will be there.

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Speaker 6: Beautiful weather in Palm Beach this time of year, so

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Speaker 6: excited for that.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Buding, you got a pout