WEBVTT - Ryan & Chelsea - He’s Always Watching

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<v Speaker 1>First Date to follow up powered by the Advocates Injury

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<v Speaker 1>Attorneys online at Advocates Law dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan is on the phone today for a first day

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<v Speaker 2>follow up. He's getting ghosted by Chelsea. So in a

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<v Speaker 2>few minutes we're going to call her and see if

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<v Speaker 2>you tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe get

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<v Speaker 2>him another date if he still wants one. But before

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<v Speaker 2>we do that, Ryan was up, how long has it

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<v Speaker 2>been since you heard from Chelsea?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, it's been I've said, probably about a week or so.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you how many times have you tried to reach

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<v Speaker 4>out to her at that time?

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<v Speaker 3>Probably about three or four times. You know. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>want to seem like I was a stocking, you know type,

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<v Speaker 3>So after the last time, I just you know, left

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<v Speaker 3>it alone and got in contact with you guys, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to see if I could try and figure something out,

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<v Speaker 3>because you know, I don't know what I did wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was a great first date. I thought

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<v Speaker 3>we hit it off, and I've just been ghosted ever since.

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<v Speaker 4>Why don't you start by telling us about the date?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So we went out, in our drinks conversation, everything

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<v Speaker 3>was was pretty good, and this came about after you

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<v Speaker 3>know us connecting on Hinge. Had some friends tell me

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<v Speaker 3>some good things about HIMS, so I figured I'd try

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<v Speaker 3>it out. So, you know, we went on our date

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<v Speaker 3>and then we went to a nearby park after that.

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<v Speaker 5>How to go at the park.

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<v Speaker 3>The park went good, but I guess there was something

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<v Speaker 3>that was pretty questionable that happened at dinner. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>we were hanging out, having a good time, chatting it up,

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<v Speaker 3>and so she got a phone call and she said

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<v Speaker 3>she needed to take the call, and she excused herself

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<v Speaker 3>from the table and went out for this call. And

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<v Speaker 3>the call was probably about She was gone for about

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen to twenty minutes.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was pretty important because she stepped outside

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<v Speaker 3>of the restaurant. But she walked all the way to

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<v Speaker 3>the corner or like you know, up the street a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit, and I could see from the restaurant that

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<v Speaker 3>she was in a heated exchange, Like her hands were flying,

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<v Speaker 3>and I could see the veins popping out of her forehead,

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<v Speaker 3>and she was like yelling and screaming into the phone.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was by this time, like, you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>food came, her food was cold. I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>start eating without her, and so you know, she comes

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<v Speaker 3>back inside and she's like really cool, calm and collected,

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<v Speaker 3>and I said, is everything okay? And she said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just dealing with some family stuff. You know, my

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<v Speaker 3>sister called me and you know, a little sil sibling

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<v Speaker 3>quarrels or whatever. So I just said, okay. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 3>do you want me to order you something else? You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I can have them send this back and we can

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<v Speaker 3>order you a fresh one, so that way it's high

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, she didn't want to eat at that point,

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<v Speaker 3>she said, no, I'm fine. We can just wrap up,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, if you want to eat, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we can go to the park. So yeah, that's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of how the that portion of the date went. That's

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<v Speaker 3>the only pickup that I could think of that happened was.

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<v Speaker 5>That pretty big hiccup, How was you to the park?

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<v Speaker 1>Which is a good sign because to continue after dinner

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<v Speaker 1>like she kept it.

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<v Speaker 3>Going, Yeah, that's what I don't understand. We went to

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<v Speaker 3>the park. You know, we had you know, great convo

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<v Speaker 3>and I even got to you know, pick in on

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<v Speaker 3>the cheek the end of the day. But thought was great,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just don't know what else happened. It's really weird.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, Well we'll see we can figure out for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we'll play a song come Back, and then call

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<v Speaker 2>her and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting you,

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<v Speaker 2>and then maybe get you another day.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, thanks, sounds good, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll play us on come Back, get your first Day

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<v Speaker 2>follow up next. If you're just joining us for today's

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<v Speaker 2>first date follow up. Ryan is on the phone. He's

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<v Speaker 2>getting ghosted by Chelsea and doesn't know why. So in

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<v Speaker 2>just a second, we're gonna call her see if she'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him

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<v Speaker 2>another date. But before we do that, Ryan, why don't

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<v Speaker 2>you catch everybody up on your situation?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? So had to. Really what I thought was a

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<v Speaker 3>great date with Chelsea. The only hiccup that happened during

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<v Speaker 3>the date, but she had to take a phone call

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<v Speaker 3>from you know, an important phone call to deal with

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<v Speaker 3>the situation. Family situation, I guess. But other than that,

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<v Speaker 3>we hit it off. Great conversation, great energy, great vibes,

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<v Speaker 3>even got a peck on the cheek at the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the night. After that, just ghost nothing gone, click.

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<v Speaker 6>It all right?

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<v Speaker 5>You ready for us to call her?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, here we go.

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<v Speaker 6>Hello.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, man speak to Chelsea. Please, Chelsea? Hi, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Jebel and this is a radio show.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called The Jubil Show.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, Chelsea, I'm Nina also on the show.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, and I'm Victoria.

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<v Speaker 6>Hi. Hello.

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<v Speaker 5>Have you ever listened to the show before?

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<v Speaker 6>Actually?

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<v Speaker 1>Have?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>Cool?

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<v Speaker 5>Really cool? You know why we recalling you? Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>Did I win something? I hope I did.

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<v Speaker 2>It's possible. It depends how much you like Ryan. You

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<v Speaker 2>remember going on a date with Ryan.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is a first date follow up the segment

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<v Speaker 2>where we if you've been ghosted, you can email us.

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<v Speaker 2>So we get that person on the phone and ask

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<v Speaker 2>why you're being ghosted. And Ryan emailed us about you,

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<v Speaker 2>So can you tell us why you're ghosting him?

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<v Speaker 7>The reason why I'm ghosting him is because I'm trying

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<v Speaker 7>to dodge my ex and I honestly didn't want to

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<v Speaker 7>scare Ryan away.

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<v Speaker 6>So my eggs.

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<v Speaker 7>Texted me while I was from the date with Ryan,

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<v Speaker 7>and he texted, I need to see you, and then

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<v Speaker 7>he continued like I trucked your phone.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm coming to see you.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, And so I went to call him to

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<v Speaker 7>kind of diffuse the situation. Becau it's like we've been

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<v Speaker 7>broken up for about six months, but he's really having

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<v Speaker 7>a heart accepting the breakup, and so he drives by

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<v Speaker 7>my house constantly.

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<v Speaker 6>He like sends me still flowers to work.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my gosh, wow.

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<v Speaker 8>And so I honestly I took the call and after

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<v Speaker 8>that I just had a hard time because I just

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<v Speaker 8>don't want I really feel like I need to.

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<v Speaker 7>Get a handle on him before I bring anybody into

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<v Speaker 7>my life and bring this drama into anybody's life. And

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<v Speaker 7>I honestly feel bad for Ryan, like I just don't

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<v Speaker 7>want to bring that to.

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<v Speaker 6>Him, And so I just haven't really responded much to Ryan.

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<v Speaker 6>You liked him though, Yeah, I like trying a lot. Actually,

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<v Speaker 6>it's actually.

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<v Speaker 5>Kind of respectful.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, think about how many people have like X drama

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't even care about the new person they

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<v Speaker 1>bring into their life. And now this new person is

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<v Speaker 1>like collateral damage. I think that that's really cool of you.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also think that's something you could probably tell him.

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<v Speaker 7>I guess I could have told him. I honestly feel

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<v Speaker 7>like I just it's not fair. It's not fair to

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<v Speaker 7>bring anybody with my ex is pretty.

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<v Speaker 6>Persistent as easy.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and I.

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<v Speaker 6>Just don't want to put him in any dangerous situation.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh wow, you think he's like dangerous.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I mean, I don't know about how.

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<v Speaker 7>He will be confrontational, Okay, if he sees me with

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<v Speaker 7>another guy. Yeah, and so that hasn't happened yet, so

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you think about it this way, though, your

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<v Speaker 2>ex is still controlling you because you're not dating people

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<v Speaker 2>you want.

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<v Speaker 6>To date pretty much. Yeah, that's true. I didn't even

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<v Speaker 6>think about that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, my opinion, that's pretty unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 4>But like, how do you handle how do you handle that?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know. I am really trying hard to just be.

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<v Speaker 7>Civilized and talk to him and just try to calm

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<v Speaker 7>him down and just let him know that I'm not

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<v Speaker 7>interested anymore.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's just been really hard.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I have a couple ideas for you. I'll get

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<v Speaker 5>to those at a second.

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<v Speaker 2>First, I'm going to let you know that Ryan is

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<v Speaker 2>actually on the other line and has been listening and

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<v Speaker 2>wants to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yes, hi, Ryan, Hey, Chelsea, how are you. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>good to you. I'm so sorry. I honestly did not

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<v Speaker 6>mean to go see you. I just it's just been

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<v Speaker 6>really stressful.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm so happy to hear your voice. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sorry to put you on the radio and put you

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<v Speaker 3>on the spot like this, but I didn't know what

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<v Speaker 3>else to do, and I, yeah, some closure I needed

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<v Speaker 3>to know. I just really thought there's a connection there

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<v Speaker 3>and so yeah, I'm happy to hear that it wasn't me.

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<v Speaker 6>No, you didn't do anything wrong. You were so sweet.

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<v Speaker 6>I felt like we really had a connection. And it's

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<v Speaker 6>been so hard for me. It's been really.

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<v Speaker 7>Heavy because I just honestly don't want to put you

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<v Speaker 7>in any weird situation, you know, I don't think it

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<v Speaker 7>will be fair.

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<v Speaker 3>There are a couple of questions. Are you completely are

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<v Speaker 3>you still attached emotionally? Like you know, do you still

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<v Speaker 3>have feelings for him?

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<v Speaker 7>No?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't have feelings for him and it's been six months. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>absolutely not, Chelsea.

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<v Speaker 5>I have a question for you, why do you still

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<v Speaker 5>talk to him?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just did you feel bad?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like that, I feel bad for him. I know

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<v Speaker 6>he's stuff bering.

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<v Speaker 2>Care about yourself. You're done with a relationship with him.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't need to talk to him. Unless you have

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<v Speaker 2>like a kid or something and you have to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to him. You don't need to feel bad for him,

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<v Speaker 2>feel bad for yourself. You're not able to date Ryan,

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<v Speaker 2>and you want to date Ryan, and you're letting your

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<v Speaker 2>extra control. All that issue goes because you're worried about

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<v Speaker 2>your ex. Worry about yourself. Get it, girl, Well you

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<v Speaker 2>should get it girl.

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<v Speaker 1>You should also make sure that your man like has

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<v Speaker 1>some type of restraining order if he really does keep

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<v Speaker 1>popping random places, because that is not okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, if it's super bad, you should do that for real.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean I haven't really stopped fully the communication.

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<v Speaker 7>That's I could definitely block him. I just feel so

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<v Speaker 7>bad for him because I thought he's just really suffering,

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<v Speaker 7>and I.

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<v Speaker 6>Just don't I mean, I hated having a break up

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<v Speaker 6>the relationship, but I really don't have any feelings for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Believe me, it's hard. It's hard to not talk to

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who's persistent. But you ghosted Ryan, you can ghost again.

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<v Speaker 4>Like this life coaching right now is just you know, accurate.

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<v Speaker 7>That's true.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I'm sorry Ryan.

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<v Speaker 1>You can tell she's so empathetic too, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>great quality, Chelsea.

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<v Speaker 5>But doubles. Right, would you like to go on another

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<v Speaker 5>day with Ryan? We'll pay for it.

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<v Speaker 6>I will love to. I am really like.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, what else you got?

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<v Speaker 7>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Just get it girl, That's all I'm science.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. I really want to say thank you. Guys.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so much for getting us back together here so

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<v Speaker 3>that we can continue on. And Chelsea, don't worry. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a big boy. I can my own, I can

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<v Speaker 3>hold you down and you know, protect you and myself.

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<v Speaker 3>So no worries about the crazy X and come get

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<v Speaker 3>it girl.

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<v Speaker 5>Jubile's first Date follow up