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Speaker 1: Be around with the NFL podcast hashtag get to learn

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Speaker 1: from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dan Jansas room filled with a bunch of heroes.

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenhal, Mark Sessler, Am I right the man that

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Speaker 1: we must get to the United Kingdom at all costs.

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Speaker 1: Patrick Claiban, what's up? What's up? Dann? What's up? Marco's up? Greg?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Justin congratulations? I don't I mean as far

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Speaker 1: as the things that we should prioritize. I appreciate it,

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Speaker 1: I really do. That's good. I just I just want

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Speaker 1: to keep my job. Like let's uh, but that's how

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Speaker 1: you spend You have to diversify the Clay Bann brand,

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Speaker 1: take it over over waters and and just establish yourself

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Speaker 1: in the United Kingdom and surrounding territories, you know, like

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Speaker 1: how people lark on Big Brother other ship. I just

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Speaker 1: kind of want to be a lurker, like maybe like

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Speaker 1: a Milton type situation where they legitimately forgetting sounds. We

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Speaker 1: are already the tallest, most handsome guy in the room,

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Speaker 1: and then my chair is lower than his two. So

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Speaker 1: let's try to clean this up a little bit. You

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Speaker 1: do here towering over him. Well, i'd like to have

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Speaker 1: my say. I don't get a chance to have my

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Speaker 1: feet dangle like a like a fun child very much.

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Speaker 1: And these chairs allow me to do that. I always do.

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Speaker 1: When you watch this on if you're watching on the

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Speaker 1: YouTube feed, poor Greg, when you go to the wide shot,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just simply you're not a huge person,

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Speaker 1: but you are stationed farther behind everyone. It's like, to

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Speaker 1: some degree, I'm worried people people get into that hobbit.

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Speaker 1: It's how they filmed the hobbit with just putting someone

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Speaker 1: into teams Rex fault. But he looks like a someone

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Speaker 1: that just came out of someone's womb compared to the

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Speaker 1: rest of the people and the here's what we gotta

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Speaker 1: do with Clay Button, No, we gotta bring him over.

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Speaker 1: He's a regular on this show. By the way, we

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Speaker 1: didn't have to like prep him, like, hey, here's how

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Speaker 1: around the NFC goes. No, he does it every year.

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Speaker 1: We are like a long running show, uh go and

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Speaker 1: overseas great success, great ratings, but you gotta worry it's

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Speaker 1: getting stale after four or five years. You juice up

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Speaker 1: the ratings and the excitement by adding a new character

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Speaker 1: for season five. That almost tracks. But then if you

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Speaker 1: to grow stale. That brings in the cute kid. That

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Speaker 1: kid is always a deathnell of the show. That annoying redhead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Danny, Yeah, was that his name? Well, then

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Speaker 1: we have a fall guy. If that happened Family well,

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Speaker 1: Family Ties had the child Morkan Mindy, which is an

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Speaker 1: an egg and that show went off the right off

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Speaker 1: the cliff after that, all right, second show in the

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Speaker 1: full time capacity behind the glass for Justin Graver. Justin,

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Speaker 1: I understand as everyone knows, uh, the producers creed. We

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Speaker 1: opened this week's show with the producer's creed, got just

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Speaker 1: didn't go over well with everyone. It just didn't know

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Speaker 1: some controversy. Can we can we listen to the bench

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Speaker 1: with Banetta Rachel Panetta. We love Rachel and we think

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Speaker 1: that she's a great talent and she's a friend of

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Speaker 1: the show, very talented, but she did not hesitate to,

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Speaker 1: you know, clap back at this program over what happened

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Speaker 1: let's listen. In, I renounced any and all other podcasts

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Speaker 1: I mean I felt like we had created a pretty

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Speaker 1: good relationship that would have you know, were you at

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Speaker 1: least like crossing your fingers behind your back like we

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Speaker 1: needed some infront? Did you feel immediately bad? Did you

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Speaker 1: think about reaching out to Mohun and I because like,

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Speaker 1: just feel like, I don't want to speak for you, MO,

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Speaker 1: don't want to be dramatic, but I thought Justin and

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Speaker 1: I and all three of us had a pretty good

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Speaker 1: going I know we're just starting out. Well listen, Um,

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Speaker 1: the oath is the oath. I think everyone's missing the

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Speaker 1: giant loophole that saves me exactly Justin, please go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Because I was outside these walls, I thought Dan did

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Speaker 1: that intentionally, that he was saying, like you NFL media,

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Speaker 1: use like look at it like that's a loophole, please

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Speaker 1: a single thing that he said to Rachel has any

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Speaker 1: credence because he'll do whatever. A month ago, we were

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Speaker 1: talking about a massive power shift organized by Grave Digger.

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Speaker 1: A month later, where is he spinning verbal bern? I

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Speaker 1: didn't see this coming. What Mark is referencing is the

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Speaker 1: game of Headphones right, which is constantly played, and Justin

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Speaker 1: the game quite well. She's my my host on Game Debut.

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Speaker 1: Check out our schedule release show next week. Justin do

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Speaker 1: you have an issue with the tone of Mark's voice

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Speaker 1: there and the way he just described you. I feel

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Speaker 1: a power. That was another test I guess completely accurate

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Speaker 1: didn't give some teams the love they deserved. Its graver

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Speaker 1: just beyonder. Just understand this is not intentional. This is

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Speaker 1: then I did that specifically to antagonize you, the person

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Speaker 1: to talk about, Yes, the International Series which is back,

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Speaker 1: uh five games including a brand new country. And don't

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Speaker 1: forget you have time outs. You guys didn't use a

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Speaker 1: Let's start as we always do on the East coast,

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Speaker 1: the NFC East and Patrick Laban, you're more than a

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Speaker 1: guest your family. Get it going, all right. So the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys addressed multiple needs last week. They also needed

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Speaker 1: his job NFC Title game even losing that Because because

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Speaker 1: know for a fact that it wasn't Sean Payton related

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Speaker 1: that car crash. He could have been watching the Netflix

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Speaker 1: It's like a Radiohead album, right, You just you just

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Speaker 1: learn more each time. I think McCarthy is in a

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Speaker 1: roster to go make some noise. Don't overestimate the Dallas

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Speaker 1: I think means making the playoffs, unless Sean Payton is

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Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. We talked about it a lot,

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Reference, Uh, the last twenty years after playoff

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Speaker 1: people who watched college he's intriguing, but his fifth round

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Speaker 1: pick anyway, should should Ron Rivera be as confident as

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Speaker 1: he is that this offense is now about to sing

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Speaker 1: because they got a guy that can make all of

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Speaker 1: them know. As we all know, decided to really go

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Speaker 1: ahead and start to take command. This was the most

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Speaker 1: desperate attempt at getting a starting quarterback of any team

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Speaker 1: in the league. And what happens to Washington when we're

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Speaker 1: in the middle of off season programs, from the middle

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Speaker 1: of training camp, the middle of preseason, and Taylor Heineke

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Speaker 1: is out playing Carson Wentz visibly to our I Sam

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Speaker 1: Howell is not probably gonna say that name. I not

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Speaker 1: even put him on the field but that But he

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Speaker 1: I just think the Taylor Heineke could be just simply

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Speaker 1: be the better quarterback. Taylor heine is an exact kind

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Speaker 1: of quarterback that is always gonna make the starter who's

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Speaker 1: not great look inferior because Heineke is a frisky little guy.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know, it's just you might not play

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Speaker 1: in the preseason and we all Wentz and how I

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Speaker 1: saw your little tastey uh tweet there, Greggy that Kyle

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Speaker 1: Brand called the Gateway tweet that that Carson Wentz has

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Speaker 1: a better offensive cast around him now that he did

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Speaker 1: an indie. Yeah, I don't even think that's a question.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't matter with Carson. No, I'm not. That was not

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Speaker 1: a pro Carson Wentz treet tweet. I agree with everything

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Speaker 1: you said about Wentz. I think the price of quarterback

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Speaker 1: going down made that move look even more foolish. I'd

452
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Speaker 1: much rather have Baker Mayfield for that matter. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: Antonio Gibson and some good running back depth. Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: worse than Jonathan Taylor, but it's still quite good. The

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Speaker 1: offensive line ranked higher than the Colts and basically every

456
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Speaker 1: metric last year and looks solid. I wouldn't say it's amazing,

457
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Speaker 1: but it's good enough. And the receivers are fun. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know Curtis Samuel is never healthy, but even if

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Speaker 1: he wasn't you have McLaurin, you have Johan Dotson, you

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Speaker 1: have Cam sims is a fun three. Diammy Brown maybe

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Speaker 1: he can do something. He's a deep threat, I think,

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Speaker 1: and I've I've always believed Scott Turner is an underrated

463
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Speaker 1: play caller that's been dealt to bad hand. I think

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Speaker 1: it could be seen as an anti went Steake, like

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Speaker 1: if it doesn't, then let's not do this ever again. Right.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it'll work, but I just think the

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Speaker 1: team's okay. By the way, Defense tv O eight year ago. Please,

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Speaker 1: a lot of commanders in Washington. He's right. You can't

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Speaker 1: say he's not right. That place is teeming with commanders.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear it again, Joe. A lot of commanders in Washington,

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Speaker 1: d C. And the Pentagon Fortress. And what about Carson

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Speaker 1: Wentz only here from it, as we all know, decided

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Speaker 1: to really go ahead and start to take commander just

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Speaker 1: one more take the social media guy. All he had

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Speaker 1: to do is says, okay, that was good Carson. Now

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Speaker 1: let's remove the arms and the kindos. And then to

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Speaker 1: begin to that was that was swag like he was

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Speaker 1: trying to put puna on it. But it turned into

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Speaker 1: ready to start to maybe command It's like, all right,

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Speaker 1: it'll work. You know how we didn't say like the

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Speaker 1: old Washington team nickname for a while, or or a

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Speaker 1: lot of people didn't and I didn't in writing. I'm

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Speaker 1: actually doing the same thing with this nickname. I'm just

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Speaker 1: going to Washington. I'm standing against this nickname too. I

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Speaker 1: can't deal with tedious nickname. You know, you'll get a

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Speaker 1: pure little pentagon. I mean, do you remember the Lady

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Speaker 1: by the Pool? Dan? Oh, the lady when I did

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Speaker 1: the Banetta podcast with Graver and the Lady by the Pool.

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Speaker 1: in Vegas. I guess this is a time out. We

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Speaker 1: It's a great conversation. A woman really been in the

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Speaker 1: sun probably the last forty five years, I'd say, um,

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Speaker 1: says I. What was like NFL draft? I was like yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like right, and they're like, actually the commander's down now.

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Speaker 1: dealing with. Slurs. She's probably still laying in that chair

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Speaker 1: right now. What happens in Vegas? Well, she took it

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Speaker 1: out of it out. All right, let's take a break

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Speaker 1: and then move to the NFC North. All right, here

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Speaker 1: we go, Greggy get us going with Dob. Bears nailed it.

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Speaker 1: So I look at this Bears team, and I look

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Speaker 1: at the fact that they are dead last and cast spending.

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Speaker 1: This is my new thing that it's a little bit

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Speaker 1: on my rader because like some teams try harder than others,

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Speaker 1: some teams are spending a hundred million dollars more in

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Speaker 1: cast than others, even when they're at the same salary

512
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Speaker 1: coup and things go up and down. You gotta look

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Speaker 1: at it over multiple years. But the Bears haven't spent

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Speaker 1: in three years. They got Luke Getz as their offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: They got Byron Pringle as their number two receiver, uh

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Speaker 1: Vellis Jones, a year old prospect who's kind of a

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Speaker 1: return guy, as their one draft pick at wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: They don't have a good offensive line, and they just

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Speaker 1: haven't been doing enough. Whether it's the coaching, whether it's

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Speaker 1: free agency, whether it's trades, whether it's the draft, to

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Speaker 1: support justin fields or just to support having a good offense,

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Speaker 1: which is the point of playing football, to me, you

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Speaker 1: gotta play a good offense since what that's going on

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Speaker 1: with the Bears right now, because they did mortgage their

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Speaker 1: future to get Justin Fields. Different guys, but the organization

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Speaker 1: did still and they have a guy here that is

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Speaker 1: on a rookie contract now heading into a year two,

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Speaker 1: and they did nothing to help him in the year one,

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Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. They kept the aim Duck coach and everybody

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Speaker 1: knew was not the guy. Same thing with the general manager.

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Speaker 1: They let him draft through the draft class last year

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Speaker 1: and now they're not spending like you're saying. They let

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Speaker 1: Allen Robinson leave in free agency after getting him to

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Speaker 1: essentially not want to be in that building anymore. And

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Speaker 1: it's just it feels like it's all wasteful. I don't

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Speaker 1: see any direction that's positive right now with this. I

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Speaker 1: do think like incomplete grade for Ryan Poles, the new GM.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's more to do here, but I

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Speaker 1: put it more on people above him. Yes, right. The

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Speaker 1: thing is, though, I mean, the sweet spot for every

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Speaker 1: one of these NFL teams is the quarterback on the

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Speaker 1: rookie contract and if they like Fields and then they

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Speaker 1: have to pay him a ton of money two years

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Speaker 1: fro Now if he if he survives all this, then

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Speaker 1: you're out of that window and the Bears are in

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Speaker 1: a whole different type of problem financially. And it's like,

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Speaker 1: this is the time to spend. It's the time to

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Speaker 1: surround Justin Fields with as much as possible. And he

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Speaker 1: has less than Jared Goff had in Detroit a year ago.

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Speaker 1: It's just which which way is it going to be?

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Speaker 1: If you believe he's not the future that I'm sure

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Speaker 1: considering the quarterbacks in the way people felt about this

553
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Speaker 1: most recent draft class, maybe there's a market for Justin Fields.

554
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Speaker 1: If you don't believe in him, maybe somebody else does.

555
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Speaker 1: But if you do, then then what is your plan

556
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Speaker 1: not just the previous regime mortgaging their future Like he

557
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Speaker 1: is the future, He's somebody's future. He's more important than

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Speaker 1: the coach. That's the thing I think that gets lost.

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Speaker 1: These rookie quarterbacks are ultimately more important than whatever the

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Speaker 1: vision of Ryan Poles and the coaches, Like hire a

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Speaker 1: coach with the vision for Justin Fields. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: these guys do eleven draft picks. They used one of

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Speaker 1: those picks on a wide receiver. This is a team

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Speaker 1: that had two players on the roster that had played

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Speaker 1: a snap last year uh for the Bears. Darnell Mooney

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Speaker 1: Byron Pringle are there now. But Vilas Jones Jr. Set

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Speaker 1: number seventy one, is the only guy they brought in.

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Speaker 1: To Greg's point, he's swore of a special teams guy

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Speaker 1: than he is someone who proved in college. That could

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Speaker 1: be the Lions Bark. Sorry, Bell, it's not they know, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they know? Do they know? I got a lot of

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Speaker 1: people mad. That is a fair question, Detroit. I there's

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Speaker 1: still issues here. But I see hope, I I do.

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Speaker 1: I see a white knuckle offensive line, the beginning of

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Speaker 1: a pass rush that could be pretty nasty if Aiden

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Speaker 1: Hutchinson works out. You look at a year ago, they

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Speaker 1: were like Chicago, they had major issues at wide receiver

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Speaker 1: and we didn't know that Aman Ross st Brown would

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Speaker 1: be what he was, which was a great young first

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Speaker 1: year white out. Jamison Williams has added to the mix.

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Speaker 1: They've got a creative, underrated coaching staff. I think Jared

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Speaker 1: Goff is probably no more exciting than like a cup

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Speaker 1: of yogurt, But he isn't the worst thing on the earth.

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Speaker 1: Vanilla right like the top, like there's not even fruit

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Speaker 1: in it. But if it's like PM and you just

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Speaker 1: want a little snack like bang down the yogurt, it's good.

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Speaker 1: So that's I mean that, Jared Goff. It's in certain

588
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Speaker 1: time and in certain place, you can get it done too.

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Speaker 1: You do it, You do it, yogurt, staying it down,

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Speaker 1: Jared straight to the head. Is it crazy because I

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Speaker 1: I fall for these things all the time, and it's

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Speaker 1: you've got to start to sell police. Is it crazy

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Speaker 1: to see a Lions team that maybe freaks their way

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Speaker 1: to nine and eight and it's alive for a wild

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Speaker 1: card birth in that final week of the season. Why

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Speaker 1: not ire? This team was so close a year ago,

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Speaker 1: especially late in the season, time after time, getting just

598
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Speaker 1: a few plays away. I don't see why not. It's

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Speaker 1: it's so hard to handicap things, especially in this division,

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Speaker 1: because we don't know how to feel. We've got a

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Speaker 1: new head coach coming to Minnesota. There's there's turnover, there's

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Speaker 1: change in Green Bay. And again we just talked about

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Speaker 1: the Bear situation. Why not? I have great coaching too,

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Speaker 1: at least from what we saw a year ago. They

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Speaker 1: maxed out, they were incredible against the spread. I know

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Speaker 1: that's random, but I think it just shows how they

607
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: were way better than expectation week after week. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: just winning a couple of games. They could have won more.

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Speaker 1: Very deep up front on the defensive line, Josh Pascal

610
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Speaker 1: was a guy. There's a high ceiling type of pass

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Speaker 1: rusher to to combine with Hutchinson depth there. To me,

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Speaker 1: this is this is my favorite for team of a

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Speaker 1: t O. I know you just went through all those

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Speaker 1: teams that in at it that are my teams, but

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Speaker 1: I feel like this is a team you don't America

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Speaker 1: can get behind, and that that we can get behind

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Speaker 1: as a group who we would have fun route alliance. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: as um as I said to Cynthia, like they are

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Speaker 1: what the Browns were a few years ago. There this

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Speaker 1: underdog team that's had a long run of failure and

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Speaker 1: they feel like they're on the come up. But they're

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Speaker 1: not loaded by any treacher. Just now, they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: on hard knocks like that Browns team was wanted to

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Speaker 1: do it right now, You want to do a team

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Speaker 1: of eight dal and May it seems a tad premature.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, let's think about it. Let's

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Speaker 1: come back to that. We might have used it. Let's

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Speaker 1: do it, and then we can we can go back

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Speaker 1: on it if we want to change our minds. See,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think that's strong to do it. I'm

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Speaker 1: fine if I just do to ask can they go

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Speaker 1: nine and eight? It really to me comes back to

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Speaker 1: the division, which is, if Green Bay takes a step back, possible,

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Speaker 1: If Minnesota takes a step back, possible. Chicago's gonna stink.

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Speaker 1: We know that, we think we know everything right, go

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Speaker 1: for into there and and you're flying. It's also possible.

637
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: The lines are one in five in October. Notice how

638
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: lot Justin doesn't even take the track out. He used

639
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: up all of his ammunitions. I saw him loaded up

640
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: one time. But but we got there. He was thinking

641
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: about it, all right. It's true, you guys overstepped on

642
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: one of these teams recently, the Packers. Where's the urgency?

643
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: Where is it? Across the league? We see teams making

644
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: aggressive plays in free agency trades the draft, adding impact

645
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: wide receiver talent those teams believe could get their offense

646
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: over the top of Packers. You know, we're coming off

647
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: a playoff game where the offense as tight as a

648
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: drum ineffective. They traded one of the best wide receiver

649
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: in their wide receivers in their history, stayed away from

650
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: any splashy free agency move, didn't make another blockbuster trade

651
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: to replace Adams, then went defense with two first round picks.

652
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: The six wide receivers came off the board ahead of them.

653
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: I know they get Christian Watson early in the second round.

654
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll be a stud. I'm not saying that's not possible.

655
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: They've done that before with non first round picks. But

656
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: there's a big assumption that he's going to be that.

657
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: And remember that with Davante Adams, another second round pick

658
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: that became a stud when he came in, he didn't

659
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: need to be the guy, and they had Jordy Nelson there.

660
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: I think Greg Jennings might have still been there. But

661
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: you're now asking this kid the second round pick. Hey,

662
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: we gotta win a super Bowl. Hurry up, Harry up,

663
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: Harry up. Be great. I'm dubious of the whole thing,

664
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: and as a Packers fan, if I was, I'd be disappointed.

665
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: And he's gonna be compared to all the other white

666
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: outs taken a little bit before and after him as well,

667
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: to make sure that Green Bay got the right guy

668
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: when they skipped on a white out early on. My

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00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: one thing about Green Bay is like two years in

670
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 1: a row, thirteen and three seasons, things have gone as

671
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: well as possible. Right you have had an m v

672
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: P quarterback two years in a row. You get to January,

673
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: the engine falls out of the vehicle, and what happened

674
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: last year to lose to San Francisco in in that's

675
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: the that should have been are super Bowl run. The

676
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: NFC is weak. That's all that's saving them right now.

677
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: I wonder if they need to go through some madness

678
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 1: earlier in the year and not have such a pristine

679
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: regular season so when they get to January they're more

680
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: battle tested perhaps, and and they they had their moments.

681
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: I just think it's still a really good team, though.

682
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't love the process for how they

683
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: got Watson. You got two You traded two second round

684
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: picks to go get him. Romeo Dubs what a name

685
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: fourth round pick at receiver that some people believe it's

686
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: a little more pro ready and might be able. I

687
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: get it. But they add DeVante Why, which looks like

688
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: a great pick. It's a really good defense, it's a

689
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: good backfield, it could be a really good offensive line.

690
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: One of the reasons that Aaron Rodgers is worth all

691
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: that money. The same reason why Tom Brady is is

692
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: because he makes receivers better and he makes it work. Well,

693
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: why did they lose last year? Right? They were playing

694
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: the forty Honors. It's DeVante and nothing else. They just

695
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: needed an option, right, and so now you take DeVante

696
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: off of the team, and it's just I cannot be

697
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: hit with any idea that this team is better without that.

698
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: Annoys me too. I have something the Alaska is so cold? Oh,

699
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: come on making excuse everything for everybody. But they're the

700
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers say like a passing attack that had

701
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: nothing to do with it. It was a total implosion.

702
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: Use the resources at your disposal to become a better

703
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: football team than you were. Like in the back of

704
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: the Packers for what's back. I just think they're a

705
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: fine team. They're gonna be They're gonna intend to twelve games.

706
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: Now someone's taking darts. The darts? Are they gave me strong? Here?

707
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: Come back to me when Romeo Dubbs is racking up

708
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: dubs on Sundays. Samewich prop okay, alright, finally Patrick clay

709
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: band on the bikes here. So the Minnesota Vikings are

710
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings. O'Connell comes in, Uh, they get pat

711
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: p back. I like the draft if you look at

712
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: it right without going through the draft process. I love

713
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 1: Louis Sen and I love Andrew bruth Um. I think

714
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: seen honestly, uh watching him. Not not like Kyle Hamilton's,

715
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: but I can see a case that he could bring

716
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: not a similar talent, right, but a lot from that

717
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: safety position. The issue with the draft was the trade values, right,

718
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: You're you're in there, you're trying to to see. I

719
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: was in New Orleans looking at the same draft and

720
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm I'm doing all the calculations based on the rich

721
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: Hill trade chart, and then I see the the in

722
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: division trade with the Lions, and I look at the

723
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: points and I'm like, question, what are we what are

724
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: we doing? Like? What's going on? People got different charts

725
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: though exactly and since since the time, I have become

726
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: more amenable to it. But I just wonder with the

727
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: continuity at the quarterback position. I think Justin Jefferson is

728
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: one of the best in the game. What is it

729
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: that's keeping me from really believing in the Minnesota Vikings.

730
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: I have to ask this question, internalized to myself and

731
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 1: to you guys, what's holding us back from thinking this team?

732
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: I get, you know what the answer is the same

733
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 1: answer is it is every year, same guy throwing the ball.

734
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: I know, but then like last November, we were like,

735
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: this guy's having his best year ever, but then he

736
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: ultimately will not. I mean, I I do think though

737
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: the Zimmer experience needed to end the quotes coming out

738
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: of that building. We're so negative. So I think it

739
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: comes down to, like Kevin O'Connell and Kirk Cousins, is

740
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 1: is Kevin O'Connell a special coach? We have no concept.

741
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: It's a totally different defense, it's a different offense. I

742
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: like that that for them, they could not run back

743
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: what we experienced last year. I would have been tired

744
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: of it from week one on. I feel differently right now,

745
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: they're really different. They're they're giving that big secondary energy

746
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: that we talked about with the Bengals to draft Seeing

747
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: Booth and then another fourth round pick to a secondary

748
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: that already had pretty good talent with Peterson, Harrison Smith

749
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: Camp dancers, Like that's what they're trying to do. But

750
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: then you look at the offense and it's basically the

751
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: entire saying it's exactly the same as a year ago,

752
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: except you're replacing the coach and you're just County On O'Connell.

753
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: I'm I'm wondering they'll never admit this, But if, like

754
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: the first draft, for quite see a dopamensa right, they

755
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 1: trade out of twelve, okay, and they get they pass

756
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: on Kyle Hamilton, a guy people say it could be

757
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: generational talent at safety to take a safety at thirty two,

758
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: pick up a third round pick, and then the team

759
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: that they trade with, the Lions team in their division,

760
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: takes a big time wide receiver prospect, Jamison Williams. And

761
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: I know they picked up a mid round pick, and

762
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: GMS love mid round picks. I get that, but I

763
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: wonder if, like if in the heart of hearts, if

764
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: they're not totally thrilled how that first round played out, well,

765
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: they'll be reminded of it every time Jamison World Williams

766
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: torches them, like their fans will remind them of that.

767
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: If that happens, Patrick, you're doing such amazing work. I

768
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: think you need to take a blow, take a quick break.

769
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 1: We only have this is I know, fourteen billion dollar company,

770
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: but we just have four mics. We gotta make room

771
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: for what is a father? Chris smiss that the British

772
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: call say is an individual? Yes, father Christmas is coming in.

773
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: So Patrick steps out right after this break time out. Um.

774
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: I thought when a couple like months ago, when you

775
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: had a private lunch and you were you had big

776
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: news for me. I thought you were announcing that you're

777
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: staying in our country and I was going to be

778
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: a part of the ceremony or something. But asked him

779
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: about music, and uh different. Henry Hodson is here to

780
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 1: talk international games. You are not staying here. There will

781
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: be no uh ceremony. You're leaving us. I'm sorry, is it?

782
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: Do we have the British music to play instead? Can't

783
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: we have a ceremony saying goodbye at some point? That

784
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: would be appropriate after after what he's done, I'm a

785
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: little upset still. I've been on record here that you know,

786
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 1: I don't have many friends Henry that I consider actual friends.

787
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: You're one of them. So the list went down from

788
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: like twelve to eleven. That hurts me. Well, I made

789
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: its top twelve friends list was one of my top well,

790
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: I was. Look, what I would say is that that

791
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: was one of the things that came into my decision

792
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: as well. I could have had opportunities to leave three

793
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: or four years ago, and it's taken me that long

794
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: to get to the point that I was willing to

795
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: to say goodbye to you. No, we we're all very

796
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: uh happy and proud of you, Henry. You're going to

797
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: do great job as the general manager of United Kingdom Properties.

798
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: Sounds powerful media. Oh my god. Um. And now since

799
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: you are the general manager to be overseas and you're

800
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: moving back home. Uh, in a little bit, we should

801
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: talk international series which was announced this week, and we

802
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: were texting back and forth, and uh, I know you

803
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: wanted to get in here and really plug the brand.

804
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: So like I said to you last week, hey, by

805
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 1: the way, gave you a little bit of a heads

806
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: up that we're being be announcing the game, and I said,

807
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: how about I come and talk talk to about the games.

808
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: And then this morning you texted me and said, come

809
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: and come and plug your stuff or something. It's like

810
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: the Power rankings. Welcome to my world. Was I think

811
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: almost the exact quote. It's like, welcome to I've come

812
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 1: to talk about the NFL schedule. It's not I'm not plugging,

813
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: you know, you said, here's the text exchange. I do

814
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 1: have to confess that I went on the Insiders show

815
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: with Rhett Lewis to that was great, had a great

816
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: time yesterday. Uh, it's possibly I'll be repeating myself. And

817
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: I then replied, I have no issue with you repeating yourself.

818
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: You gotta plug and promote baby, welcome to life in

819
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 1: the Power Rankings world. When I do five NFL shows,

820
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: I make up I have to say the same point

821
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: over and over again. I gotta plug the brand. You

822
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: are the brand, bro, you are the United Kingdom for

823
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: all intents and purposes. I appreciate this is a little

824
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: bit like I felt like, obviously as one of your

825
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: biggest listeners, what you were trying to help Mark with

826
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: around around the draft and really plugging his kind of

827
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: this is the same, same, same recipe. So it's like

828
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: his it's like, oh, are the Chargers fallen from seven?

829
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: Is your equivalent for like, here are five games across

830
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: the world that people are going to be in the

831
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: stands for it, cheering exactly. That's not as big as

832
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: the power felt like, what were you doing with that?

833
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: It's just a mean spirited with We understand that about

834
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: Greg and we appreciate it, Henry. Let's talk to games.

835
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: Let's start, um, We'll start with your beloved hometown London,

836
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: and we got three games and we're rolling here. Give

837
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: it to me, give me that stodgy old tune. It's

838
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: literally like it's about celebrating God save the Queen. You know,

839
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 1: I love your home country and I love we love

840
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: having How old is the queen? She's like a hundred

841
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: and five right now. I think she just celebrated like birthday.

842
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: Let's get on with it already, get on with what

843
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: I mean like that, I would like to see some

844
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: fresh blood in the in the What you mean by that? Right?

845
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: Have some respect? Well that's the queen, man. Do you

846
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 1: want to come to Londons? On with it? Mark Queene? Right? Yeah,

847
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: he obviously does. He backed up the like we gave

848
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: you a chance to take a step back and then

849
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: you were like, I want fresh blood into the UK

850
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: lust year. That's words being put in my mouth. I

851
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: just want to see what it's like when it's a

852
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: new regime here. We got excited for that. And there's

853
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 1: a over a four five weeks spen. We have three

854
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: UK games. We a Vikings Verse, Saints, Giants versus Packers,

855
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: Broncos versus Yagy Wars, all spicy games. I love it, buddy,

856
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: where you have look at that slate. That's the best

857
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: London luget. Baby, I'm plucking it. Aaron Rodgers, You've got

858
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. You got a Tiffany franchise in the Giants,

859
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, you got the Saints, and then you got

860
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: you just lead with Kirk Russell Wilson. You got the

861
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 1: Jaguars be being half decent. Well yeah, certainly turned around

862
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: from where they were the mess. Last you got the

863
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: Jaguars refusing to play in the hot Toddy, which is

864
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: always like a fun subplot. He's at there at Wembley Stadium,

865
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: refused to I know it's not a refusal refusal. Wembley

866
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: Stadium is a Crown jewel um, not not just of

867
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: UK stadiums, but of world. This is a new Wembley Stadium,

868
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: though to be clear, this isn't the original classics. We

869
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: generally we always are covering games at the hot Toddy.

870
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: So normally if we would go, it would be one

871
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: of those first two games. October two is Viking Saints.

872
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: They only play classics, by the way, not just that

873
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: playoff game, but a game that when West was on

874
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: the show, we would talk about all the time, the

875
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: famous Sam Bradford Week one performance against the Saints. I

876
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: think it was eighteen maybe the best game by a

877
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: quarterback that entire season. It was Sam. It was the

878
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: apex of Sam Bradford's career. Maybe Sam Bradford would come

879
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: back for this one. Some inside information, like question from

880
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: you about the Packers that they waited this long or

881
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: or we're able to wield their power and not go

882
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: to London up until now is weird? What was was there?

883
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 1: Is there pushback from the Green Bay organization to participate

884
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: in that absolutely opposite, So up until now they've had

885
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: a reason to be able to push back because it

886
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: was kind of either voluntary or it was based on

887
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: a super Bowl being played in your city, which is well,

888
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: but they didn't volunte here, so there wasn't no. They

889
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,959
Speaker 1: weren't over they weren't overly excited about it. But also

890
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: because lambeau Field is so special, to the they gave

891
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 1: up a Lambo game for this year. Yes, the Packers.

892
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: The way that the schedule has now worked out is

893
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: with the additional seventeen week, got it the seventeen game.

894
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: The team that has more home or the conference rather

895
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: that or home games the NFC. Those teams this year

896
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: that are the ones that are giving them next year.

897
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: The a f C back and forth. There's a lot

898
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: of UK Packers fans I feel there are I mean

899
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: and Giants fans. There's two of the more popular. Let's

900
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: head to the witch Land and this is a first

901
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: and this is something we're all excited about. We'd love

902
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: to get back to London for a fourth time. I

903
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: really want to get to Germany for the first time

904
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: because some good music. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, this is pretty good.

905
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: The NFL Network game in Munich. This is this is

906
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: a long time coming, getting the NFL to Germany, not

907
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: just the NFL. Tom Brady, Tom Brady, who would you

908
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: send into fair when he unretired the NFL? Did you

909
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 1: know this game was already happening at that So the

910
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: NFL Germany office went from thinking we've gotten Brady of

911
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: announcing the Buccaneers to the Lows just could have been

912
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: a disaster, though, Tom Brady not, I don't think that.

913
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: Now you're gonna get Gino Smith potentially, so that's kind

914
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: of a nightmare. But you got sehas a top three club.

915
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: And in Germany, the people of Germany loved the Seahawks

916
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: because they've been such a successful team over the last

917
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: The top three teams in Germany the New England Patriots

918
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: because of their success. The Green Bay Packer is very

919
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: very popular in the Seattle shall I bet they like

920
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: I don't know anything other other than we have a

921
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: great listenership in Germany. It's very voracious Germany. It's an

922
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: underrated country for American football. Love your days of NFL Europe.

923
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: They were thriving back then. But my guess is they

924
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: like hard nosed defensive teams, so I would think they

925
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: might maybe like the like legion of Boom back in

926
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: the day. You know what I mean exactly? I actually

927
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: I know this is these guys know. I went to

928
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: Germany with the NFL people and we went to high

929
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: schools and they were teaching them like defensive line drills.

930
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: They were like fully formed like football teams all over Germany.

931
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: It's it's hardcore. Greg says that it's underrated. I would say, okay,

932
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: maybe people actually floats floating into the fastest growing market.

933
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: Were you aware that Mark spent some time as a

934
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: youth in England? You aware? Yes? Wait, but so so

935
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: I am Surrey, beautiful, beautiful town. I mentioned this awkwardly

936
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: on a on a hit that's gonna air on the

937
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: schedule release show. It will see if it makes it.

938
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: But my dad born in Germany. My grandfather received reparation

939
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: for decades for for what they did, uh to our

940
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: people there. I've never been there. Your brother has a

941
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: German post, he does, he has a German passport. You

942
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: didn't get round to do. That's that's part of the reparation.

943
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: To um Gino Smith is playing in this game. We

944
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: gotta be there. Henry high support that. I mean. The

945
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 1: exciting thing is that it's an anophone network. Game Network

946
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: is behind all of these exciting games. You guys should

947
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: be We want to go to London too. In Mexico,

948
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: we really want to go to Mexico. I have a

949
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: whole plan for Mexico. It has been involved all of us.

950
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: Are I've already discussed this that I am willing to

951
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: go with the three of us, but I am going

952
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 1: to drive there from here. It's thirty three hours. I've

953
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 1: talked to Randy behind the glass about you know, where

954
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: to go, where not to go. He's given me some tips,

955
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 1: and uh, then I would just stay in your room

956
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: and be a servant to you. I'll do anything that

957
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: you ask. Well, I can't guarantee I'll be that forty

958
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: Niners Cardinals. That's a fun game, too, late game, DeAndre

959
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: Apkins back. Finally, let's head south of the border, ho

960
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: to Mexico City, Estadio Astecca for the Niners and the

961
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: Cardinals and NFC West Hilt Henry and I know Greg's

962
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: already uncomfortable. It's like, oh, it's just insensive. Randy Chavez

963
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: picked this up, Babyn't even. I was just enjoying the

964
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: incredible house music we have. It was little in the pants.

965
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: I gotta admit I was pett a little too close

966
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: to the part there, and I was ready. I was

967
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: reading the around the NFL staff behind the glass. Randy,

968
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: go ahead, Greg, what was saying? I wasn't saying anything. Whatever,

969
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: you go ahead, Well, it's a it's another fantastic game.

970
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: This is a Monday night football game. If you remember,

971
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: the last couple of games in Mexico City had raucous night,

972
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: raucous games. The Cardinals and both have huge fan bases

973
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: in Mexico because people you know, for Arizona obviously Local

974
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,720
Speaker 1: forty nine is a California team, a lot of support.

975
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 1: It's going to be a huge game. And and and

976
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: you know, like that is where are we were like

977
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: we probably I think it's the week just prior to Thanksgiving,

978
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: so that's what week third to everybody else doesn't really begin.

979
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: But this is pretty close. This is a big division.

980
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 1: This is a playoff type Mark Sessler. And you'll be

981
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: there in an old jelape that you've driven down from

982
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: southern California, my least car. It's like it's like a

983
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: year old. But now you're not a big fan of driving,

984
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: though I am when I don't like driving other people

985
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: around driving myself, but I have heard that you also

986
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: feel a little unsafe sometimes with other people on the road.

987
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: I don't know that the traffic in Mexico is necessarily

988
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,720
Speaker 1: I actually I am a sneaky good driver. That letter

989
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: had a lot of that is just false advertising based

990
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: on lack of experience with me from the other podcast

991
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: you said it. You're the one who always talked about

992
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: it well, because there was a period where I think

993
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: that I needed. You're saying you've improved fast, and that

994
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: can happen. Hey, no one's gonna take that away from you.

995
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: And if you drive all the way to Mexico City,

996
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: you'll be great, You'll be amazing. You'll probably be driving

997
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: well over here. So I'm looking it up and it's

998
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: um eighteen eight hundred miles. I think that would really arrangement.

999
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: Yet trail ends you've got Kyler Murray running around way

1000
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: over sea level. The defenders are getting to higher two

1001
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: thousand higher in the fourth quarter, thousand miles high or

1002
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: than But it is exactly like space. I think on

1003
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: NFL Network I might have said it was two thousand

1004
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: miles higher. So that's just another notch in our two

1005
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: thousand mile high stadium. What do you think you you

1006
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: are kind of you'r the VP of international before you're

1007
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: going to be the GM. Right. And so this is

1008
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: the third time we've talked about these games. Today, we

1009
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: talked about live on NFL Network. Now we're gonna be

1010
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: on the schedule release show. I think I'll be the

1011
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 1: first time we've actually ever been on a show with

1012
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: Rich Eysen. Then this, if we ever there was gonna

1013
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: be three minutes of work that we've ever done that

1014
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: we want to put with such a steamed colleagues, this

1015
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: was it. It was a total home run and now

1016
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: here like we are. We are kind of Mr International,

1017
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 1: all three of us. But are you proud? Are you proud?

1018
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 1: I'm very proud of where we've come together. But the

1019
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: whole aff On network has become Mr Internationally the last

1020
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: and we have seen you know, so much support. The

1021
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: friends of Good Morning Football helped us unveil the games yesterday. Um,

1022
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: we would have done that if this was one with

1023
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: Andrews dims our accomplishments to say that the whole now

1024
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: the whole networks on board. But we were the ones

1025
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: who you know, wandered through the desert for you uh

1026
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: to to bring the message. Took the slings and arrows

1027
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: across the city. People said we couldn't do it, but

1028
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 1: we did it. Wondering through the desert also included staying

1029
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: in nice hotels in London, and that's not we got

1030
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: to go back to London to as much as we

1031
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: like Germany, we want to go back to London too.

1032
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: Would hotels? How would you feel about that? Could we

1033
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: all move that? Where to your castle? I'd go right now.

1034
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: I would stay in one of your castles. Yes, we've

1035
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: talked about Oh naturally, we talked about this before. Um

1036
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: Dan said it doesn't want to leave the country ever,

1037
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: narrative but now no, you said it. Uh, you said

1038
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: occasional vacation. But you like you're you're the Yes, I

1039
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: would like colors like color. Don't run? What a bad

1040
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: guy I am? Where have you been the situation pops up?

1041
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,720
Speaker 1: I would go with you. I do remember once Smock

1042
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 1: and Don and I going to the draft and you

1043
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: you're can hatching a plan for us to leave our

1044
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: families behind them living in a small apartment together. That's true.

1045
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: We actually we picked out a place. It was a

1046
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: beautiful spring week day in Manhattan and it was very

1047
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: Allurian the concept. Yeah, so I'll leave it. Henry, you've

1048
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: said it all. Thank you. And Patrick Claiban is going

1049
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: to reclaim his seat in a moment. But just um,

1050
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: just know that we've already had a conversation about what

1051
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: it would be like if the two of you, we're

1052
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: young studs out on the town together. Sounds fund. The

1053
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,959
Speaker 1: reason why we had to actually separate them is because

1054
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: it would be just devastating bad for Mark Gregg and

1055
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 1: myself to have the two of you in here with us.

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Speaker 1: I was in there where you went on vacation at

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00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: some point not that long ago, and I'm Patrick and

1058
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: I sat with um, Greg and Mark, and we had

1059
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: a great time from the devastation that we felt didn't

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00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: come up with Mark and I. So maybe this is

1061
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 1: just you, you know, I think I got this one

1062
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: nailed pretty kid. Um. All right, thank you, buddy, all right,

1063
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 1: go back. Okay, can I come on here? What course

1064
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: of course? More than just one? Yes. I wasn't gonna

1065
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: make sure this isn't goodbye. This is not you can

1066
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: come on next week. Whenever Dan leaves, that's just that's

1067
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 1: your time. It's like Frank Drebbond once said, this isn't goodbye,

1068
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,720
Speaker 1: it's just we're never going to see each other. Henry Hutson,

1069
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:44,760
Speaker 1: there he goes. Should we play him out with Yankee

1070
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: Doodle Dandy? No, it was I thought I was going

1071
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: to use it, but I couldn't. All right, bye, Henry,

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00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: all right, there he goes Henry, and welcome back Patrick.

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00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: What you do during the time off? I honestly just

1074
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: stood outside and looked at a taller and more handsome

1075
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: man sit in this chair, and uh, I was a

1076
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: little wit that was distracting to me. Had to be honest.

1077
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: I saw you through the glass and you did not

1078
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 1: blink once. Yeah. I wasn't trying to be intimidating. It's

1079
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: really just, you know, appreciating the creature. You and him

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00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: together have a high handsome quotient, though, I mean, I

1081
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: think it wasn't imagine if they were single guys hitting

1082
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: Englewood after the show, damage the landing strip down there,

1083
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: down the streets, like, yeah, Tebow and Scott Hanson back

1084
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: in all right, you get who you want to be

1085
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: pick of that pair. Yeah, I I appreciate the success

1086
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: that both of those men. Event then I will not

1087
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: take their plate answer. Let's move to the NFC sell

1088
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: starting with a town I should called it once. Twenty

1089
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: years ago, the Falcons with Matt Ryan in Indianapolis, Calvin

1090
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: Ridley suspended, Julio Jones and Graybeards Purgatory Falcons are starting

1091
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: over on the offense. That excavation began last year with

1092
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts fourth overall. That was some foundation. Then you

1093
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: bring in Drake London eighth overall. We talked to him

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00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: actually on Thursday night after the draft. Referred to the

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00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: pairs the twin Towers. Okay, so now you got at

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00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: least have some pieces there. This is a team that

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00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: went seven and ten last year but could have easily

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00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: been a thirteen lost team. Um, do you think Marcus

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00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: Mariota has a chance to do something or is it

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00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: more likely that Desmond ritted the third round pick, is

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00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: playing by Halloween. They screamed to me, like a team

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Speaker 1: that's gonna flip flop between both. Probably. Uh. Arthur Smith

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00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: was in Tennessee when Mariotta was benched for Ryan Tannehill.

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Speaker 1: So I I tire of this idea that Arthur Smith

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00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: is fascinated by Martin brought a man. I mean he did,

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00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: but it's like there weren't a lot of options. I

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00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: still think that Baser compared himself to Tannehill during the process,

1108
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: But Desmond Ritter is actually sort of a Mariota clone too,

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00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: So it's like, I but I think I think there's

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Speaker 1: a this is one rookie as a chance to I

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00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: think knockoff Mariota the minute there's trouble. And with Mario

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00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: da it's like I I liked him better as a

1113
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: gadget guy, and I think that up to stock him

1114
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: as a week after week starter. I'm scared of that one.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they could have had a better draft,

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00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: uh to get Ridder in the third round of potential

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00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: option at quarterback while you're also getting great athletes. Arnold

1118
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: e Viketty in the second round was just tested off

1119
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: the charts, looks like a great pass rusher, and I

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Speaker 1: think in most drafts where there wasn't so many good

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00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: edge rushers could have gone in the top twenty and

1122
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: got pushed down. Troy Anderson, I don't know that much

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Speaker 1: about him, but I know he played quarterback and then

1124
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: he played running back, and then he played linebacker. And

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Speaker 1: when you play one year of linebacker and you get

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00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: drafted in the second round, you gotta be doing something right.

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Speaker 1: And I just like Arthur Smith at least having a

1128
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Speaker 1: vision here with three guys Pits London and Couardurel Patterson,

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00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: that you can do different things that. I think they

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00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 1: could be a watchable bad team. I liked that Marcus

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00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: as far as the gadget roll. What it meant was

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00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: we didn't have Marcus going in and out taking the

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Speaker 1: hits in the contact that he did over his tenure

1134
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: in Tennessee. That I think kind of hurt him towards

1135
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: the end, where here's an explosive athlete that wasn't necessarily

1136
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: able to do due to like the culmination of all

1137
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: those injuries at the time, and here's Ryan Tannehill coming

1138
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 1: off of his injury history, was able to take some

1139
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: time away from the game. So I think we get

1140
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: a few solid games of markets I could say ten

1141
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: games of solid Uh, you know, that's what they want.

1142
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: Was supposed to be the most pro ready guy. Maybe.

1143
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 1: So it does make a little bottom of the mountain

1144
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: right now and they're starting to climb, I still think ultimately,

1145
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: and it worked out for them, even though their intentions

1146
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: were otherwise. Deshaun Watson, in addition to all the other

1147
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: reasons why that would have been a problematic move for them,

1148
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: what that would have done to their ability to build

1149
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: a team for years, it just didn't feel like a

1150
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: good fit. That whole set up. Now this is more organic,

1151
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: let's see if they could do something. Three. We were

1152
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: very complainant what this podcast is typically about. I was afraid. Yeah,

1153
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: it was just it was coming. And that's that's the

1154
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: difference between the the organizational structure of trying like having

1155
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: some sort of plan versus one previous team that we

1156
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: talked about where it's like, what are they doing? You

1157
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 1: gotta get me? Get him right in the jugular. You're

1158
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: a little asleep at the wheel grave digger. I think

1159
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: he's a little cheapest chrise he he had about He

1160
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: probably got some tweets like, bro, he fired off five

1161
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,919
Speaker 1: thousand rounds? Did you Yeah, he was letting the things.

1162
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: There was a reddit meme post you can't you cannot

1163
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: go to the reddit board and have it. Never yeah,

1164
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: never read the reddit. I think he's just stunned from

1165
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: that whip lashing he took from Mark earlier in the

1166
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: show that was not recovered. What my accurate reporting the

1167
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: tension between the two. I was also thrown off guard

1168
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: because he just let the timer expires. I was like, oh,

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01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: that's why I'm surprised why claib would let the time

1170
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: tick off and then have a point I wanted honest,

1171
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: he wanted the dart um. This is my take on

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01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: the subreddit board and everybody, if you were a fan

1173
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: of the show, check it out. I think it's over

1174
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: twenty strong. It's great. If you're a fan of the show,

1175
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: enjoy it. You know, be nice to us. But you

1176
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: know what, ultimately it's not it's not for us. So

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01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 1: that's why it's better for us to stay away. Graver,

1178
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: you make your own decisions. I'm on there. Don't let

1179
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: them change you though, don't let them tell just like

1180
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 1: think how to behave You're right, I just like to

1181
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: be informed what what the listeners are taking from me

1182
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 1: each we've we've got, we've we've got a long way.

1183
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:27,919
Speaker 1: But I think that's healthy. From a producer angle, Graver

1184
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: would like to contextualize his analysis of the show with

1185
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: input from other people who it's good then line. You

1186
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 1: cross that line, though, and all of a sudden they'll

1187
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: they'll be your boss. You're a no man's land. You

1188
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: didn't take an oath to them. I trust your judgment

1189
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: as do I. Let's move on. Are we talking about

1190
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: forty eight minutes? Up? Next is Mark Sessler with the

1191
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: Carolina Panther. There are a lot of interesting things on Reddit,

1192
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 1: by the way, not just m our subredit Anyways, Um,

1193
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: this is a troubled operation in Carolina. I and I

1194
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: was caught off guard by what's happened over the last

1195
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: year plus because I was all in and you know,

1196
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: assuming that Baker Mayfield does not come to town, I

1197
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: have one question about a Panther's team that seems to

1198
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: have lost all sense of direction. Doesn't everything here boiled

1199
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: down to and this is not ideal Matt Corrall knocking

1200
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 1: off Sam Donald in camp and showing up right away

1201
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: as a competent rookie starter if he can't play, and

1202
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 1: you get and I know that they're wavering concepts that

1203
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 1: Sam Donald is secretly better than he's been. But if

1204
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: you get last year, it's Donald all over again. Everyone

1205
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: in charge of everything other than the owner is gone

1206
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: by Thanksgiving? Correct Thanksgiving. Well, I'm saying, if things go

1207
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 1: real south loot owner is not passion for me. And

1208
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: they carry just a little bit of water, Sam, just

1209
01:03:56,720 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 1: a little bit of water volume leader that they were

1210
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 1: three and oh and Donald was playing well when McCaffrey's

1211
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: body exploded again. But that's gonna happen again, probably now

1212
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 1: they have a better offensive line and hypothetically healthier Christian McCaffrey.

1213
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: That's all I'm gonna say. I liked what they did.

1214
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 1: This is what I I don't believe in Donald at

1215
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: this point, but I will I will say that the

1216
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 1: fact that they didn't take a quarterback at six overall

1217
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: was smart. They focused on building that lineup, which is

1218
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: almost as big a problem as quarterback itself. It couldn't

1219
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: have gone any better to get con Wu and you

1220
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: look at Bradley Boseman. Uh, you had Austin Corbett, so

1221
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 1: you've got some other free agents that are looking to

1222
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: make this offensive line average, and then you get corral anyways,

1223
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 1: and you didn't have to trade that much up to

1224
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: get into the third round to get him. I think

1225
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a great chance to play, because I

1226
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 1: just don't think Sam Donald will play. I know he

1227
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 1: keeps getting chances. I looked at this status, I was like,

1228
01:04:55,720 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: does anyone with Donald's this like poor of stats start

1229
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 1: this many games in the NFL? And I look back

1230
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,919
Speaker 1: through two thousand, there have been a few like Joe,

1231
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 1: But you have to go back like Joey Harrenton, Mark Sanchez,

1232
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 1: uh David Carr that they were the only ones in

1233
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 1: the ballpark of guys with this many starts, with that

1234
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 1: low of an adjusted yards per It's draft pedigree, and

1235
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: all it took was what they were. There was probably

1236
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 1: one team willing to do that, and it was the

1237
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: Panthers because they were out of options, and they were

1238
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 1: willing to get Baker Mayfield too. They said, if the

1239
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 1: Browns would pay half a salary, they'd take them. But

1240
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 1: the Browns would and I don't think they were at

1241
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 1: least forget about Baker, forgot about Jimmy over Now you

1242
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: already paying Donald. See if he could play. If he

1243
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: fails like everyone thinks, then you put in the kid,

1244
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: and then you could evaluate the position and then you

1245
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 1: have a better quarter. But the problem is going to

1246
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: be a different coaching staff evaluating the position twelve months

1247
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: from now. If if things go the way we predict

1248
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 1: the way that it's structured now, there's not a lot

1249
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: to feel great about. What's going to change that though,

1250
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 1: Like if you get if Matt Correll came in and

1251
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 1: showed it, I'm or at least unconscious. But that wasn't

1252
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: a dart he's a silencer revolver there. Whoops. Alright, alright,

1253
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 1: Mark was an awesome addition to the show. Is an

1254
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: incredible run. Let's bring him back though, Oh like the Phoenix,

1255
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 1: what a moment for the show. Alright, Lazarus is back.

1256
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 1: Let's now move on to uh. Patrick Claiban on the Saints.

1257
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: The Saints believe, they believe that they have a team.

1258
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 1: They beat the defending champions twice in the division last year,

1259
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: once with without a quarterback, called the roster um. They

1260
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 1: going into the draft process. I was fortunate enough to

1261
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: have access to some people there who come at break.

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Speaker 1: It was great because I don't get that. I don't

1263
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: get that, and so it was fun. It was fun

1264
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: to actually talk talk to people who, of course are

1265
01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 1: doing so off the record, but they honestly believe that

1266
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: they can contend. The question is that there were some

1267
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: lingering issues. The fan base was tortured by this idea

1268
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 1: of we're comfortable with the guys that we have in

1269
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 1: the room, especially a wide receiver. They have stepped out

1270
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: a little bit. Honey Badger comes in the question. Ultimately, though, Uh,

1271
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: there's so much continuity. Mickey Loomis has been there since

1272
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 1: I was in high school. There's guys that have been

1273
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 1: including Dennis Allen, who have been there. He's been there

1274
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 1: for twelve years. Out of the past, however, long since

1275
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: Louimis has been there. But are in keeping all the

1276
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: continuity and keeping Jamis and keeping the staff. Are they

1277
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 1: holding onto a ghost or are they pushing forward towards

1278
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 1: something realistic. I think they're living in the present. They

1279
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 1: are a great, uh example of the city of New Orleans.

1280
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 1: You can't worry about the future right now. If you're

1281
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 1: in the City of New Orleans, You've gotta live it

1282
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,439
Speaker 1: up right now. And they're like, the future doesn't matter.

1283
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 1: It's fun to be a ten or eleven win team.

1284
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: Let's do that right now and worry about the future later.

1285
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: Now ten or eleven wins, maybe you see that as

1286
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: a stretch. They had their chances to do it last year,

1287
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 1: and I think this roster looks better. You get Michael

1288
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 1: Thomas back, you get a great two in a LAVA.

1289
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 1: I think the offensive line can be okay. Trevor Penning

1290
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:12,919
Speaker 1: is a is a big risk, I would say, but look,

1291
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: I think it's a loaded defense that they kept Dennis

1292
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: Allen because they wanted that defense to stay loaded. I

1293
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 1: think it's a pretty good looking team. I go back

1294
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 1: to the game where they whipped Tampa Bay nine nothing,

1295
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 1: And Dennis Allen is kept around because the strength of

1296
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 1: the Saints right now and the core and who they

1297
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 1: are and their identity is their defense, like and they

1298
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 1: and and when I think about a team that could

1299
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 1: win this division outside of the Bucks, it would be

1300
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 1: the Saints obviously, because they seem to have Brady's number

1301
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 1: over and over. I mean that that's just one little

1302
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 1: thing that matters inside the South. I mean, they're incomplete.

1303
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 1: It comes down to quarterback play everything else. But where

1304
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 1: they're good, they're really good. I mean their secondary is

1305
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 1: the best in the unif where's their big weakness? Danny, Oh, okay,

1306
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 1: how about Seawan Payne's out there anymore? Okay, called sleeping

1307
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: on that a little bit in this podcast. Like he

1308
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 1: is arguably one of the best offensive minds in the sport.

1309
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 1: And now he's gone and Dennis Allen is now the

1310
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: head coach. And what was Dennis Allen as a head

1311
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: coach in a previous stop. I know, a long long

1312
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 1: time ago he was. It was a mess. So that

1313
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 1: would be the thing that I would be most concerned

1314
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 1: about what happens in a Sean Payton free world. And

1315
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna get into the Winston thing. I know, Uh,

1316
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 1: the idea is that he'll build on last year before

1317
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: he blew out his knee. But that's my big concern.

1318
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 1: What happens in the world where the entire universe has

1319
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: been removed Anton fast thing. Everybody's still there, so it's

1320
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 1: like a big planet. But any Dalton too is not

1321
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 1: a most encouraging I'm just saying, you're not throwing knee

1322
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 1: and jump out. It's Saints universe. It was Sean Paton planet.

1323
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 1: Left right is the Solar system in universe? Maybe maybe

1324
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: Sean Playton like a super massive black hole left right,

1325
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,600
Speaker 1: a universe is inside a solar system, or know the

1326
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 1: other way around solar system. It's called time out. There

1327
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: is speculation that inside of every black hole, inside of

1328
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 1: every singularity, there is a new universe. Right, people have

1329
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 1: speculated that um. But in theory, if we're talking about

1330
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:11,719
Speaker 1: the existence our entire um, maybe you'd be talking about

1331
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 1: a big galaxy, like a central galaxy. Being Sean, we

1332
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 1: needed you when we had the multiverse talk a few

1333
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 1: weeks ago we were strong. Always struggled with that one.

1334
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 1: What if Sean Payton was the Sun and the Saints

1335
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 1: were the Solar system? Solar System is this? What about

1336
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 1: the other planets in this universe? Is more than whatever?

1337
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 1: So Sean Payton brings life, heat and light to every team,

1338
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 1: to the Saints andrings like Salary Caps can He did

1339
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,759
Speaker 1: that to a film franchise, right, which would not exist

1340
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 1: without Sean Payton. He is the universe and Lomis is

1341
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: clearly the Milky Way all right time. It HIBBLI Greg

1342
01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: on the Bucks. I kind of forgot about the Bucks

1343
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 1: and draft. I feel like they've just been flying in

1344
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 1: under the radar. But they've made more changes, I think

1345
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 1: than we realized this offseason. They could have five new starters.

1346
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 1: I think Logan Hall they took at the top of

1347
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 1: the second round, could be a starter. Logan Ryan remember him,

1348
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 1: he's on the Bucks now, probably probably a starter replacing

1349
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:22,679
Speaker 1: your guy white Head. Who's who you have Russell Gauge.

1350
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 1: You had a second round peak pick Luca Deck you

1351
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 1: might be a starting guard. You brought in Shack Mason Man.

1352
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 1: This roster is still awesome, Like there's no reason to

1353
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,560
Speaker 1: think unless Tom Brady isn't as good as he was

1354
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 1: a year ago, that this isn't one of the top

1355
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 1: Super Bowl contenders. Got out of that game. I don't

1356
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 1: do it anymore. I meant it, but it is funny

1357
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,640
Speaker 1: now he's He's sustained greatness for so long time that

1358
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 1: now nobody asks it anymore. But he's starting in August.

1359
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 1: But he played so well. I know, I thought he

1360
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 1: was the best quarterback in the league. But he's starting

1361
01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: forty five. I'm not I'm not going down any other

1362
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 1: wrote out he he stitched the TikTok with Justin Bieber

1363
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 1: this morning and people retweeting another all right, fine, let

1364
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 1: me watch this. And my first thought with seeing it

1365
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 1: was like, wow, like Tom looks a lot like Justin Bieber,

1366
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 1: Like I legitimately thought that that was Tom Brady for

1367
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 1: because it just does not apply. What is he? Then

1368
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 1: this this team though this like they're on year three

1369
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: of this, and like this roster is nice. I know

1370
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 1: it take a little while for Godwin to come back,

1371
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 1: but I look at the defensive line, I still really

1372
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 1: like it a lot. They still might add in Dominican

1373
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: Sue back into the mix. I still like the second

1374
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,679
Speaker 1: Like everything about his team is well built and well

1375
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: thought out, and I even like what they did in

1376
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 1: the draft. I kind of think also because this is

1377
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 1: not a I think Bruce Arians has had an awesome

1378
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 1: career and is a good coach, but that needed a

1379
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: change based on what we've heard that. I think Tom

1380
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 1: Brady is there because the Arians is out and he

1381
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 1: the week to week processing of the offensive Byron Left,

1382
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 1: which might be smoother. I don't feel the same way

1383
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: about the Bucks as I do the Saints with the

1384
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: head coach switch out. I'm with you on that. I

1385
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 1: think Todd Bowles deserves the second chance. He's got a

1386
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 1: much better team. They have continuity on the offensive side

1387
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 1: of the ball of coaching, and also Tom Brady, who

1388
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 1: was a coach. Basically his team's trying to win now,

1389
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: which which helps when you're the head coach. And and

1390
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: Byron Left, which I you know, you maybe have a

1391
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 1: question at like left guard. I mean, if the biggest

1392
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 1: concern you have is like Alex Cappa left, you've had

1393
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 1: a nice little offseason, it's weird. I don't know. I

1394
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 1: mean we can talk about do you think Rock knows

1395
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:34,640
Speaker 1: that they took a tight end to the fourth round, Like,

1396
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 1: does he literally know right now? No, I don't think

1397
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 1: that's the kind of stuff he's concerned with in early May.

1398
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:44,680
Speaker 1: I don't think he's doing like breakdowns of cade ottontep

1399
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 1: me doing like Whippets by the Sea right now. Jilian

1400
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 1: Edelman to the bucks, Well, no audible grown. He's probably cooked.

1401
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 1: He's an Emmy nominee. You gotta keep him on showtime.

1402
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 1: I don't think I've watched anything on show Time since

1403
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 1: Wild Things in Yellow Jacket Movie. I did see Yellow

1404
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 1: Jackets that I I was right, Alright, let's take a break

1405
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 1: and then uh close it out with the NFC West.

1406
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 1: All right, here we go the Cardinals, Mark Sessler, I

1407
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 1: see a team on the brink. I uh, you know,

1408
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: look at they were eleven wins last year. We all

1409
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,799
Speaker 1: know how the season went. They were hushed and free agency.

1410
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 1: They added guys like Will Hernandez and Nick Vigil. They

1411
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 1: lost Chandler Jones, Jordan Hicks, Chase Edmonds. They gave away

1412
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 1: their first round pick for a good but not great

1413
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:45,560
Speaker 1: white out in Hollywood Brown Kyler Murray totally bait it

1414
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: out of his social media campaign for cash, but might

1415
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 1: get paid anyway if it doesn't, if he doesn't stage

1416
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 1: some sort of pretentious hold out a few months from now,

1417
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 1: they're in a division with the feisty, better coach Niners,

1418
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 1: in a RAMS team that dropped a scud missile on

1419
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 1: the Cardinals in the playoffs. Do you Andre Hopkins is

1420
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:03,839
Speaker 1: dust until mid season? They play the a f C West.

1421
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: Outside of the fact that much of the NFC sort

1422
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 1: of rots, where's the optimism around this team? I don't

1423
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:11,680
Speaker 1: think I think they are a playoff chance because the

1424
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 1: NFC is sort of top heavy with a bunch of junk. Otherwise,

1425
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:17,719
Speaker 1: But have I been too tough on the Flying Creatures

1426
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,759
Speaker 1: who are ready? Did you mention the DeAndre Hopkins suspension?

1427
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 1: I said, DeAndre Hopkins is dust until mid season, dust

1428
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 1: like snapped away. Yeah. I don't know. I don't want

1429
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 1: to be overly negative about this team, but everything just

1430
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 1: feels like it's not gonna go well for them this year.

1431
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 1: And that's before you even get into the the posturing

1432
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 1: on social media with Murray and whether this is actually

1433
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 1: gonna work out or is he gonna disappear? Well, honestly,

1434
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 1: that's that's the place that I start, like, why why

1435
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 1: did this even happen? Like, why are you trying to

1436
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 1: save what? What was the goal in trying to save

1437
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 1: what like four or five million dollars in negotiation with

1438
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 1: your franchise quarterback right that you took a year after

1439
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 1: taking another guy you thought was going to be your

1440
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:01,799
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, Like all those decisions makers were still there, Like, so,

1441
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 1: so what what what did we ultimately gain from all this?

1442
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 1: I don't know that they did. I think you are

1443
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 1: probably being too hard though, Mark. I mean, I'm not

1444
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 1: saying there are a four win team. I just I

1445
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 1: don't know what under eight and the half winds over,

1446
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 1: because I do think I just sense something a little

1447
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 1: bit or a disappointment around them. My bigger concern is

1448
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 1: that Cliff Kingsbury has not shown a lot of creativity

1449
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 1: the whole idea behind his offense, Like we're gonna do

1450
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 1: the same thing every down and every week, and we're

1451
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 1: just gonna be better at it than people probably know.

1452
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 1: We're gonna execute absolutely, but like DeAndre Hopkins lines up

1453
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 1: in the exact same place every time, like they're they're

1454
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 1: not mixing that up there, and they don't execute better

1455
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:50,719
Speaker 1: as the season goes along, and more importantly, they haven't

1456
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 1: developed very well on defense either. They drafted Isaiah Simmons,

1457
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 1: you drafted Zaven Collins a year ago. You haven't gotten

1458
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 1: Like in general, I haven't seen this team devell up

1459
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 1: young players other than Kyler Murray. Who are the young

1460
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 1: players that the Cliff Kingsbury era has developed. I think

1461
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 1: they have a nice defensive coach and Vance Joseph in

1462
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 1: terms of like game planning everything. But I don't know,

1463
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 1: especially those all those young receivers that came in at

1464
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 1: the same Thomas Color It's like what happened there? And

1465
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 1: again they extended Cliff right, They extended Cliff without doing

1466
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 1: any public posture, and it was just like, oh, hey man,

1467
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 1: we know it's disappointed. Here's extension time. Aren't your best

1468
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 1: quarterbacks supposed to get better and better as the season

1469
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: goes along. I'll take up that one hit mark right

1470
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 1: in the ear? Uh the world champion Los Angeles Rams.

1471
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: Where do we come down on the Rams? Are they better?

1472
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:47,560
Speaker 1: Are they worse than? Uh? After that second Sunday in February,

1473
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 1: do we feel like this is a team that can

1474
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 1: run it back? Or they more that classic? We got hot,

1475
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 1: we won, We want a chip and then we kind

1476
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 1: of just faded. The next season, we'll see, but I

1477
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 1: do I wonder about the offensive line. Stafford is not

1478
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 1: an incredibly mobile quarterback. He's another year older. Andrew Whitworth retires,

1479
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 1: Austin Corbett signs with the Panthers, and free agency. I

1480
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 1: know you have your guy in house that you moved

1481
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 1: to left tackle. I'm blanking on his name, Logan Bruss

1482
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:20,599
Speaker 1: out of the draft. So there you go. You address that.

1483
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 1: But I think how that offensive line comes together is

1484
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,759
Speaker 1: highly important. And then I wonder about Odell is Odell

1485
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 1: coming back because I do see a hole when you

1486
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 1: say goodbye to Robert woods Um like they did in

1487
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 1: this offense without it, it did add Allen Robinson, who

1488
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:41,600
Speaker 1: I think, you know, could be they obviously, but I

1489
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 1: feel like the I know they seem to have a

1490
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 1: fetish for Van Jefferson. I feel like they're one guy short.

1491
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:48,799
Speaker 1: I mean, if you know, not to go off topic,

1492
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 1: but there is the Odell Beckham portrait along the hallways

1493
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 1: here at NFL Network, which they repainted from a Browns

1494
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,599
Speaker 1: uniform to a RAM. So if he doesn't come back

1495
01:18:57,640 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 1: to that Rams, that painter we have up on floor three.

1496
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 1: It's gonna have to repay that guy is being contracted.

1497
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: So he gets another phone call and another eight bucks.

1498
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 1: So he's well and that's all he's making for them

1499
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 1: and eight rocks. That's not bad. It's worth it because

1500
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 1: considering the impact that O'Dell had on this team last year,

1501
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 1: That's why it suffered me to say that they're better

1502
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 1: while he's not there. Also, you know, Von's going to

1503
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Vot had an incredible playoff round.

1504
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 1: You can make the case they don't have a second

1505
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 1: or third round pick, not that they would do anything different,

1506
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 1: and so it's it's it's difficult for me to say,

1507
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 1: especially looking back at the Super Bowl, going back and

1508
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 1: watching it. The Bengals plan for Odell and Cooper on

1509
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 1: the field at the same time was, Hey, I hope

1510
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 1: Joe scored some points. They weren't stopping them like O'Dell

1511
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 1: getting hurt. Uh changed the course of that game. And

1512
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm not there. I can't say they're better. I'm not

1513
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 1: saying they're bad. For two hours of work. By the way,

1514
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 1: for that contract takes longer than two hours, but he

1515
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: works quickly. I think they might be better. I mean

1516
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:54,520
Speaker 1: not then they were in the playoffs necessarily, but just overall,

1517
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 1: a lot of defending champs, even if they don't finish

1518
01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 1: the job, come out pretty hot. The Patriots, I mean,

1519
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 1: remember the pag even that lousy title relatively defense, they

1520
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 1: start out seven O last year. The Bucks come out hot.

1521
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be ready to roll. You added

1522
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 1: enough new blood with like Bobby Wagner. You trade for

1523
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 1: Troy Hill during the draft from Cleveland for a fifth

1524
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 1: round pick, which I think it was a sneaky big

1525
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 1: move for them. They needed cornerbacks and they got a

1526
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 1: starter for basically nothing. It's the type of smart moves

1527
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 1: that they make time after time, and every offseason we

1528
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 1: go into it being like I don't know about this

1529
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 1: Rams offensive line except for that one year in they're

1530
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:35,639
Speaker 1: always like really good. Anyways, they always figured out with coaching,

1531
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 1: like I have a lot of faith in this team

1532
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 1: and anchor of that that whole squad for years and

1533
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:44,719
Speaker 1: that's fair. Um, how about this mark like a squid

1534
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 1: game scenario. The guy comes in, you have two hours,

1535
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 1: three paying O'Dell Beckham. If you fail, floor opens up,

1536
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 1: he drops into a inferno. He finishes eight rock but

1537
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 1: then you kill the painter and you've got like a

1538
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 1: half rams seem I think that's like less than he

1539
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 1: probably would and he's facing the risk death. It was

1540
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 1: class war financial to have to take this deal ast

1541
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 1: like dollars to fill up his truck gas tank to

1542
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 1: get here. Listen, there are a lot of people listening.

1543
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 1: I would like it, but you don't understand. But you painting, No,

1544
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 1: it's not that something imagine? Is that what you think

1545
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 1: is a little do you were so far removed from

1546
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 1: the trade? Done no darts because that was not about

1547
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 1: the team at all. Just look at you, Um, all right,

1548
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 1: what team did we just do? Mark? That was the

1549
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 1: l a rams get him? Got you? All right? Seahawks? Uh?

1550
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:00,720
Speaker 1: You know how that that that tweet the Kevin Clark too.

1551
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 1: You know, there's never a normal Seahawks game. I feel

1552
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 1: like there's never a normal Seahawks draft. Until this one.

1553
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 1: It was like a normal draft. They usually dude like

1554
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:13,600
Speaker 1: really weird things. Instead, they got Charles Cross, who I

1555
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 1: think the Jets would have taken at ten. I think

1556
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 1: a lot of teams were excited about him. A top

1557
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 1: three tackle at the very least. Some people had him

1558
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 1: as a top tackle they needed to replace Dwayne Brown.

1559
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 1: You get another potential starting tackle in one of DJ's favorites,

1560
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 1: Abe Lucas in the third round. Kenneth Walker. Yeah, it's

1561
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 1: a running back in the second round. But it's the Seahawks.

1562
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 1: That's what they do. Him and Rashad Penny nice combo

1563
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 1: combo boy. Mafe got a lot of comparisons to Michael

1564
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 1: Bennett during the process. Another one of those edge rushers

1565
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:44,639
Speaker 1: that I think because this class was so deep, got

1566
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,679
Speaker 1: pushed down, very athletic. It just it all looked good,

1567
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:51,600
Speaker 1: It all made sense. I think it's if they're rebuilding,

1568
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 1: this was a good start. That's it. Like they're doing

1569
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 1: the Lions thing where you don't have to get the

1570
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 1: quarterback right away. Let's start get some young blood in

1571
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 1: here and see what we can build for that next

1572
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 1: They also did not trade away. Do you came at

1573
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 1: Kefy It sounds like he's gonna get signed to a

1574
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 1: long term deal, he said, So that's that's that's also

1575
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 1: telling you this isn't a full on rebuild. But I

1576
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:16,879
Speaker 1: am already uh board two tears with the quarterback situation.

1577
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 1: If they don't go get Baker Mayfield, I can process.

1578
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:21,560
Speaker 1: How the lines and Seahawks is not an Apple's the

1579
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:24,839
Speaker 1: apples comparison with the quarterback situation. The lines very clearly

1580
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 1: we're taking the long game. Do you get the feeling

1581
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 1: that Pete Carroll, it's seventy years old, is like, all right,

1582
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 1: let's start building this thing from the ground up. I

1583
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 1: think they expect to contend. And that's why I was

1584
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 1: so surprised they didn't take a quarterback. I mean, I

1585
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 1: know Smith more than most people. They like the Broncos

1586
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 1: just learned this lesson there. Does Pete really like quarterbacks

1587
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 1: that much? That all? Anyway? That that was my confused

1588
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:51,680
Speaker 1: thing about the draft is you get Charles Cross out

1589
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 1: of a Micael Leach team, who's who's dropping back right

1590
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 1: sixty five million times? But I know Pete wants to

1591
01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 1: run the ball, and so I guess if the evaluation

1592
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 1: show that Charles Cross brings what they want to the

1593
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: run game, then similar with the Lucas to who they

1594
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 1: were kind of like an A AID team. It's almost

1595
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 1: like he's he's pivoted to the whole other end of

1596
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 1: the spectrum where whether he wants a good quarterback or not,

1597
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 1: he wants one who is not um powerful and not mouthy,

1598
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 1: and so he's gone found two very powerless if But

1599
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 1: my thought was Baker's gonna be there because I think

1600
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Carol is gonna want

1601
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 1: someone with a little more upside than what he has.

1602
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 1: There's buzz there though, that it's just like it's not

1603
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 1: about his play necessarily, that they just don't want him.

1604
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:33,600
Speaker 1: I think they've made that clear because they could have

1605
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 1: had him for virtually nothing and they didn't. They the

1606
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 1: league doesn't want to. But Fox Sports one or whatever,

1607
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:46,600
Speaker 1: that's true. You well, I said he would wind up there. Now,

1608
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 1: let's if precious Gino Smith like twisted and ankle in

1609
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 1: the preseason, maybe they do it. And then if it's

1610
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 1: if it's Baker or Drew Lark. If the quarterback in

1611
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 1: Seattle has more pass attempts this year than Russell Wilson

1612
01:24:57,160 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 1: had last year, that sound all kinds of alarms. Um Dart,

1613
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 1: my ass, it is such a peak. I move with

1614
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 1: the trade Russell Wilson then draft to two tackles are

1615
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 1: two alignment and a running back three bis. He's all in.

1616
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm back, baby, this is my team. I'll

1617
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,600
Speaker 1: take that Dart. I like, I like to imagine a

1618
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 1: Comma after Dark as close us out of Patrick Laybonn

1619
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 1: with the Niners. The Niners and this debo circumstance which

1620
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: makes you wonder about what the is? What's the actual

1621
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 1: we saw with the Titans and a J. Brown, Like,

1622
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 1: you have a player that's transcendent, that sells a lot

1623
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 1: of jerseys, has had a lot of success there, Why

1624
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,599
Speaker 1: do you wait? Why do you wait to pay them,

1625
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: especially after such a great season, And then you wonder

1626
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 1: if that is because of this lingering contract situation with

1627
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 1: Jimmy G. And so that's really the only question that

1628
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 1: I have, and we kind of touched on it earlier

1629
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 1: because it's gonna determine if he goes and when he goes,

1630
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 1: because circumstances gonna are gonna change for some quarterback for

1631
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 1: some team in the league, with that team, whoever it is,

1632
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 1: rather have Jimmy G or Baker Mayfield. I'm with you

1633
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 1: from the financials because all the money you need is

1634
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 1: sitting on Jimmy G's in his direct deposit. It's twenty

1635
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 1: one million they can clear if they move on from him.

1636
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:14,720
Speaker 1: They just seem like they kind of don't give an

1637
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 1: f about what we think or anyone else thinks about

1638
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, about Deebo Samuel, about everything. I I

1639
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 1: see a scenario where they're content to go into the

1640
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 1: year with Jimmy G and Trey Lance and maybe even

1641
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 1: start Jimmy G again if he wins the summer competition.

1642
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 1: I'm curious if any of that other debot reporting out

1643
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 1: there is legit about not liking the area the country,

1644
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:41,879
Speaker 1: about not liking how he was used in the offense.

1645
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 1: I'm working under the assumption that that's all typical stuff.

1646
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 1: But it's just like pay me. He's re followed them

1647
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 1: on Instagram, he has reft a matter of pay. Pay

1648
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 1: that man. You don't want to trade him. You made

1649
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 1: it clear during the whole pre draft ramp of anybody

1650
01:26:57,600 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 1: that asked about it. You basically asked for the entire

1651
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 1: organization and return. So now just find some money between

1652
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 1: the cushions and let's go. I could be wrong, but

1653
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 1: I think that a j Brown move might have helped.

1654
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 1: And yeah, they don't have a lot of cap space,

1655
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 1: and that's where the Jimmy G thing comes in. But

1656
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 1: you don't need to have a huge cap number if

1657
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 1: you just give him a big guarantee, push it into

1658
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 1: the future. Twenty five a year for a J. Brown, Okay,

1659
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 1: so what's that sets a price? Debo is maybe worth

1660
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 1: a little more than that, and and I think they

1661
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 1: could be comfortable getting that done. They just might be

1662
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 1: weren't ready for it in April. But if you if

1663
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:28,759
Speaker 1: you plan on giving Debo between sixty and a hundred

1664
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 1: carries like Derrick Henry, you can make an easy case

1665
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 1: that he is the best runner of the football in

1666
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:37,720
Speaker 1: the NFL. Right, But who's who is lining up to

1667
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 1: pay Derrick Henry? As horrible as it is so for

1668
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 1: Deebo situation, you look at saying a J. Green, right,

1669
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 1: who's made of his career salary in the past five years?

1670
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 1: Like those last few years of a receiver's career are

1671
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 1: very important to make money. And if they're gonna be

1672
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 1: bashing him into the ground, then they're gonna need to

1673
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 1: pay him for it. Right. So that's that's where I

1674
01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 1: think that how I'm you might be why they use

1675
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 1: a third round pick not directly related to Debo, but

1676
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 1: they keep taking running backs. I think they used Debo

1677
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 1: as a running back because they had to. No one

1678
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 1: was healthy and that was he was on board with

1679
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 1: the two. By the way, that that's the part of

1680
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:13,599
Speaker 1: that story is annoying. They knew that they only needed

1681
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 1: like a B minus Jimmy g to make the Super Bowl,

1682
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 1: and they didn't get that. They got they got one

1683
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:20,680
Speaker 1: r D minus. But that's what they were trying to do.

1684
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 1: He was such a badass in that role. Where what's dartnyk?

1685
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:30,959
Speaker 1: What is Jimmy ts market? I think it's if a quarterback,

1686
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 1: it's none right now, but if someone gets hurt. So

1687
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:39,639
Speaker 1: that's where we're at now, and I think someone field salary.

1688
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 1: That's interesting. I would have never predicted that that he

1689
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 1: would be. I can't throw to July, so it's like that.

1690
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 1: I think actually they could work out for the Niners

1691
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 1: because you get great value. Good That one went by

1692
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:57,839
Speaker 1: me under my armpit, Dan in the stomach. All right, Patrick,

1693
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 1: you said at all. I don't think anyone can be

1694
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:03,600
Speaker 1: upset this this episode. We covered every team pretty well.

1695
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:05,839
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, like, did we screw anybody?

1696
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:07,560
Speaker 1: Should we go back and talk about the Colts a

1697
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:10,640
Speaker 1: little bit? Like are the Texans? I don't know that

1698
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:15,799
Speaker 1: rewards petulance and we won't do that here, good call Patrick,

1699
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 1: What do you got coming up? Where can we find you?

1700
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 1: The final episode of Path to the Draft for the

1701
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 1: drafts coming up tomorrow? Right here now, it's the Path

1702
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 1: from the Draft. Yeah, this is it. This is the

1703
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 1: Path away. We're not going to do a way too

1704
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 1: early mock draft because those things are hilarious when you

1705
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 1: look back at them. But we're just breaking it down

1706
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 1: like a top ten pick at this point last year

1707
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 1: he may start. So it is still path to the

1708
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 1: Draft you're talking. That is That is the official name

1709
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 1: of the show. It is not check. You're not looking

1710
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 1: back now. It's still the Path to the Draft, but

1711
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 1: you're looking back. Yeah. It sounds like you haven't arrived

1712
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 1: there yet though, but they're there as much time as

1713
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 1: we devoted to the draft that there is still stuff

1714
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 1: from the path that we can right now. It's one path.

1715
01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 1: You just passed the draft and now you're back on

1716
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:01,840
Speaker 1: the path, uh to another draft. Well then you're looking forward.

1717
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 1: It's pat Away from the Draft South. They should rebrand

1718
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 1: it this week. How about it? So easy? The graphic

1719
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 1: you take the like the red market squirrel boom boom

1720
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 1: too and then put like like not put in from

1721
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 1: like scrap. You're you're all about artists having to destroy

1722
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:19,560
Speaker 1: their work and redo it. You get two hours and

1723
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 1: then you fall into the inferno like can you do it?

1724
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 1: And I'm like eight dollars absolutely? Why not pay me?

1725
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 1: I don't know why that gets you mad? But I

1726
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:35,839
Speaker 1: love it. Mark. I just don't think that you understand

1727
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:38,360
Speaker 1: how painting it works. I don't. I don't think that

1728
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 1: this is how Dan thinks painting works. You know what

1729
01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 1: I mean? I had nothing else to go on in

1730
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 1: my paint I would I would nominate Mark. Though I

1731
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 1: don't know what clay Burns artistic proclivities are here, but

1732
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:56,320
Speaker 1: I think Mark would be the guy if if one

1733
01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 1: of us needed to go two hours on the clock,

1734
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:01,719
Speaker 1: I would be j out in the in the hallway,

1735
01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 1: or else all of us go into the into the pit.

1736
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 1: I'm nominating Mark because he's got a lot of great

1737
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:10,240
Speaker 1: artistic he does within with the clock. I'm worried about

1738
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 1: the clock. I wouldn't be I could. I could absolutely

1739
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:15,560
Speaker 1: nail that assignment. I as much as our trust and

1740
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 1: appreciate you, it wouldn't come to that. They'd have to

1741
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 1: kill me before I'd be in the pit. Circumstance. So

1742
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:23,880
Speaker 1: that's just that I'm fighting. Did you see squid Games?

1743
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 1: I did, and the whole time, like like most things,

1744
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, guys, this is where we unite

1745
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:30,640
Speaker 1: and rise up and destroy the oppressor. But they never

1746
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 1: do that. They never did ye like Clayvine was just

1747
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:39,599
Speaker 1: waiting for like episode four Union meetings. All right, Patrick,

1748
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 1: thank you very much. Thank you to Henry Hodgson, Thank

1749
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 1: you to the Grave Digger Randy Chavez for helping us out.

1750
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:48,639
Speaker 1: We will be back. Well, I'm going on vacation. I'm

1751
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 1: out of here. You guys figure it out next fight

1752
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 1: and you might be back. Everybody's gonna be bringing you back.

1753
01:31:53,120 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 1: I'll see the outside hill. Then he the call sp