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Speaker 2: got the Sunday night game between the Dolphins and the Eagles.
Speaker 2: Mike Florio will hopefully clear up the Caleb Williams story,
Speaker 2: did he ask for a piece of a team if
Speaker 2: he was going to be drafted? Are there only five
Speaker 2: teams that he would go to? Just feels like the
Speaker 2: timing of this story coming back up. There was a
Speaker 2: story in July that had him maybe asking for a
Speaker 2: piece of a team, which is not legal, Like, you.
Speaker 1: Can't do it no matter.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can ask, and I guess Aaron, Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers did ask the Jets for a piece of the team.
Speaker 2: But you can't because you could circumvent the salary cap.
Speaker 2: So we'll talk to Floria, We'll talk to Chris collins
Speaker 2: Worth as well. We'll get to your phone calls, pull
Speaker 2: question Seaton for the final hour.
Speaker 3: Then we got up right now, Trevor Lawrence is a
Speaker 3: top ten quarterback er, somewhat disappointing.
Speaker 4: That's still fifty to fifty.
Speaker 5: That's an interesting result.
Speaker 2: It is Jags are getting one tonight against this Thursday.
Speaker 3: Night, slightly slightly, and it's very possible. Peter Schrager are
Speaker 3: a good buddy tipped in this favor. He is now
Speaker 3: slightly a top ten quarterback or eleven through thirty two.
Speaker 4: Be very disappointed.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I don't think he's a disappointment. I'd say
Speaker 2: he's a top ten quarterback.
Speaker 1: Right there.
Speaker 2: I think when you pause that always is like, h
Speaker 2: are you sure about that? Well, I'm just you know,
Speaker 2: doing the inventory of the top ten quarterback.
Speaker 1: You're gonna go who's ahead of them?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Is Rock Party ahead of Trevor Lawrence? Is Dak Prescott
Speaker 2: ahead of Trevor Lawrence, Lamar Jackson ahead PAULI.
Speaker 4: Here's a hypothetical just to compare them. Let's say the
Speaker 4: San Francisco forty nine ers, who have a very good roster, right,
Speaker 4: didn't have a quarterback, and three guys were available for
Speaker 4: the same time, same price, Rock Party, Trevor Lawrence, Jalen Hurts,
Speaker 4: the same price, basically the same age.
Speaker 2: Well, I know that if you ask Kyle Shanahan this,
Speaker 2: he'd say what I would take my guy, brock Perdy.
Speaker 2: But let's say I take it out of San Francisco
Speaker 2: and like we make the call for the forty nine ers.
Speaker 4: You're adding a young quarterback to a very talented roster.
Speaker 6: It's tough.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think we lean towards Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 4: because we still feel like they're superstar inevitability with him.
Speaker 2: It feels like his ceiling is higher. We haven't seen
Speaker 2: it yet. Jalen Hurts got to the Super Bowl. Hasn't
Speaker 2: been great this year, Uh.
Speaker 1: Party.
Speaker 2: I think brock Perty fits who Kyle Shanahan wants out there.
Speaker 2: That he that's just sort of him out there. He's
Speaker 2: able to Rock Purty. I would say rock Perty just
Speaker 2: because I've seen it work. I've seen it work in
Speaker 2: the system. You know, Trevor Lawrence number one overall pick,
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts was a high second round pick and Rock
Speaker 2: Purty mister irrelevant. But you know, the right guy for
Speaker 2: the right team is the key there. I don't know
Speaker 2: if Trevor Lawrence would be accurate enough for Kyle Shanahan's offense.
Speaker 2: Rock Party throws the ball down the field. It's not
Speaker 2: like these little dump off passes bubble screens now they
Speaker 2: do that. But he's not afraid to throw it down
Speaker 2: the field. Jalen Hurts a wonderful player, tough player, but
Speaker 2: it feels like Kyle Shanahan likes that. You know, I
Speaker 2: think he wanted Mac Jones. I truly believe that he
Speaker 2: wanted Mac Jones and then was talked out of it,
Speaker 2: and they took Trey Lance. All right, the final hour
Speaker 2: coming up here. We have baseball this afternoon, Phillies at
Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks, Astros at the Rangers, and then it'll be
Speaker 2: the Jags against the Saints. I watched a little bit
Speaker 2: of the Las Vegas Aces beating the Liberty second straight
Speaker 2: WNBA title. WNBA is in a good position. And can
Speaker 2: you imagine when Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese, Paige Beckers they
Speaker 2: come into the WNBA. Now, will they be as good
Speaker 2: in the WNBA as they've been in college? And they
Speaker 2: probably won't be, because that's saying a lot, certainly for
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark. Paige Beckers has had injuries, and Angel Reese
Speaker 2: is certainly a personality there. But you know, futures pretty bright.
Speaker 2: I would think for the WNBA to get those players,
Speaker 2: and if you get Vegas and New York and they're
Speaker 2: competing for the title and the Aces are they were
Speaker 2: down a couple of players. It still ended up winning
Speaker 2: that game. But I'd say they're in pretty good position.
Speaker 2: If you could place Caitlin Clark somewhere, like MLS goes,
Speaker 2: where do we want Messy?
Speaker 1: We'll put him in Miami.
Speaker 2: Okay, if you could do that with Caitlin Clark, because
Speaker 2: she's going to be a huge draw. She'll be the
Speaker 2: number one overall pick. I would imagine if you could
Speaker 2: take Angel Reese or Caitlyn Clark, you're gonna take Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark is gonna get eyeballs as well on your franchise.
Speaker 2: And I mean they're both impactful players. Caitlyn Clark is
Speaker 2: you know that that's a unique talent coming into the
Speaker 2: w NBA.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Poem, I think of our placing Caitlin Clark on
Speaker 4: a team, I would go with the Indiana franchise there.
Speaker 4: I think they might have the number one pick this
Speaker 4: upcoming year. And that's a good franchise. That's a basketball state.
Speaker 4: It's Midwestern, where she already dominates the Midwestern seeing of basketball.
Speaker 2: Didn't she say to me that she hadn't ruled out
Speaker 2: going back to Iowa.
Speaker 4: Right because she gets the free COVID year, so she
Speaker 4: could go back to Iowa next year. How about Angel
Speaker 4: Reese with that?
Speaker 2: Now, what if she asked for a piece of the
Speaker 2: Indiana franchise, they'd probably give it to you. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 2: come on in we'll give you a slice of the
Speaker 2: Indiana Indiana team. Maybe Los Angeles. How about her in
Speaker 2: Los Angeles they have the third pick trade up.
Speaker 1: Yes, ton, I think.
Speaker 7: Angel reached Chicago sky.
Speaker 8: If Caitlin Clark goes to Indiana fever, it got the
Speaker 8: Indiana Chicago Midwest battle going, that would.
Speaker 6: Be great me.
Speaker 2: Okay, everyone's in town therap Yeah, yeah, they are.
Speaker 6: The college These college kids are rich. You see Andrew
Speaker 6: Ushia signed for Rebock.
Speaker 3: No, Shack's Runningbok by the way, Yeah it was his
Speaker 3: first signing I think Yeah, was Shack and Iverson are
Speaker 3: uh the faces of Rebok?
Speaker 6: Now got these college kids?
Speaker 1: Yeah, good for them.
Speaker 6: Yeah, leaving do what they would be less famous than
Speaker 6: the w n B A. Yeah in the college.
Speaker 1: No, you're right, and probably make less money in the
Speaker 1: w n B A.
Speaker 6: Like it's wild.
Speaker 5: Probably fly on worst planes probably like every Yeah, yeah
Speaker 5: that's true.
Speaker 2: You know you're flying Charter. Probably the l Shoe women's team.
Speaker 2: I'm guessing bigger crowds. Damn, that's true. Well, Caitlin Clark
Speaker 2: just played in front of sixty thousand. You're not gonna have,
Speaker 2: you know, like five games to reach that total. Yes,
Speaker 2: Paul or Yes.
Speaker 7: Time, when you're sitting in C thirty nine D for
Speaker 7: the Minnesota Lynx, you're like, you know what, maybe one
Speaker 7: more year in college would have been nice?
Speaker 6: Yes, Mark, No, when you go to Yukon, Iowa LSU,
Speaker 6: you're selling out arenas usually ten thousand.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I don't know what they're doing in WNBA for a
Speaker 6: regular season game.
Speaker 2: Although there was atmosphere last night in Brooklyn the finals. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: there was atmosphere. It was exciting. You know, there's some
Speaker 2: good basketball. But the Aces were down a couple of
Speaker 2: players and ended up winning.
Speaker 6: Best case scenario, LA and Vegas two best teams, a
Speaker 6: bunch of star powers, so they're.
Speaker 1: Good for them, all right.
Speaker 2: Some phone calls in here, Casey and New York case
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9: Hey?
Speaker 1: Dan?
Speaker 10: Five eight two hundred. Yeah, I got a couple of
Speaker 10: suggests for Crappensburg State head coach, offensive coordinator, head coach
Speaker 10: Mac Brown, offensive coordinator Mike Leach, and I also have
Speaker 10: the slush funds that would fund them, all right. That
Speaker 10: would be the Brown Trout Liberation Fund.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Casey.
Speaker 2: T shirts available at Dan Patrick dot com. Crappensburg State
Speaker 2: also we have the Crappensburg State baseball T shirt.
Speaker 1: We have the runs.
Speaker 5: And Double Duce Double Duce campus bar. We got bumper stickers.
Speaker 5: We have a coffee mug, two bumper stickers. As a
Speaker 5: matter of fact, window sticker Crappensburg State. It might be
Speaker 5: hats coming soon. I believe we are always bull eligible football.
Speaker 5: Sounds like that would be a pretty good T shirt
Speaker 5: as well. Always bull eligible.
Speaker 1: Oh you writing it down?
Speaker 6: Fact?
Speaker 1: I text seat In yesterday.
Speaker 2: I don't know what time I text you, but I said, hey,
Speaker 2: I got an idea for a T shirt.
Speaker 1: You guys want to take a guest.
Speaker 2: The idea for the T shirt I had based off
Speaker 2: of dialogue that we've had on the show this week.
Speaker 6: Marvin talented but fragile.
Speaker 1: That yeah, wait did I did I? How did Marvin
Speaker 1: know that? One?
Speaker 2: Did I text everybody? Or I thought I just text Seatan.
Speaker 2: I said, how about a Todd T shirt? I'm talented
Speaker 2: but fragile and goes, yeah, I think we should have
Speaker 2: a T shirt. And that's something Todd said earlier this week.
Speaker 8: Yes, do could you put like TF initials on the
Speaker 8: sleeve because Todd Fritz talented, fragile.
Speaker 7: Maybe you could do a little TF with that, Okay, just.
Speaker 2: Throwing it out there, noted, how about I do w TF.
Speaker 7: That's not nice. My doppelgager passes away and this.
Speaker 1: One now, all of a sudden, he embraces the doctor.
Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, Paulie from cheek.
Speaker 2: I say that, but no, no, you were like, I
Speaker 2: don't see it.
Speaker 6: I don't see it.
Speaker 2: Bert Young passed away, and we have told Fritzy for
Speaker 2: years that he and Bert Young look alike twins, not twins.
Speaker 2: I said, he could be like your older brother, like
Speaker 2: ten years older than you.
Speaker 4: Even though he's eighty three, and yeah, it's like fifty three, and.
Speaker 8: Like Wilford Brimley though he started looking like he was
Speaker 8: seventy when he was like thirty five, right, one of
Speaker 8: those guys.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you're comparing the two of us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and rest in peace.
Speaker 2: There's there's some similarities with you and Bert Young. And
Speaker 2: you did a wonderful tribute song lashed.
Speaker 6: Out thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Todd, I was mocking it.
Speaker 1: It wasn't good of it.
Speaker 11: You like that?
Speaker 1: No, I did not.
Speaker 7: Maybe my singing wasn't good, but I thought the lyrics
Speaker 7: were right A spot on.
Speaker 2: No, Okay, you had lyrics that talked about him maybe
Speaker 2: being murdered.
Speaker 7: There was a line in there about was he killed
Speaker 7: or that he'd die of an omen You.
Speaker 1: Talked about him.
Speaker 3: To be fair, we don't know, we don't know how
Speaker 3: he died just yet, we don't know that he wasn't murdered.
Speaker 1: And then you said dead on arrival as well.
Speaker 8: I mean those aren't You could look at that as
Speaker 8: being kind of inappropriate, insensive, But it wasn't meant to
Speaker 8: be that way.
Speaker 7: I was just trying to come up with some.
Speaker 2: What was what was the first line, something about his
Speaker 2: heart stopped beating.
Speaker 7: It was for me, I said, feeling down, My heart
Speaker 7: lost its beat.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, oh this is you literal.
Speaker 7: Feeling down, heart lost its beat? Okay, but I did
Speaker 7: have Was he killed or did he die of an illness?
Speaker 7: Is on him?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 9: I know?
Speaker 11: Was he killed?
Speaker 7: To rise up a challenge? Dead on arrival? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, Luciano, and then we'll take a break. Mike
Speaker 2: Florio and Chris Collinsworth will do us, uh, do us
Speaker 2: a favor by joint what?
Speaker 4: Just to be fair to Fritzi. According to the New
Speaker 4: York Times, his death was confirmed by his daughter cause
Speaker 4: of death not yet know.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, Uh, Luciano runs a barber shop and he
Speaker 2: had me settle a debate about Eli Manning and I
Speaker 2: think Tony Romo yesterday.
Speaker 1: All right, so what do you have for me today?
Speaker 9: Well, yeah, I got love barbershop debate for you. First
Speaker 9: of all, Dan, let me say to Marvin, Yeah, what up, son?
Speaker 9: He could have done. That's how you guys doing. So
Speaker 9: I'm gonna start calling you couple, Den, and I'm gonna
Speaker 9: tell you why we've decided to make you, uh the
Speaker 9: Dan Patrick Show in particular, Dan the arbiter of all
Speaker 9: black barbershop debates from now on them.
Speaker 1: So, but what I thank you, thanks, hold on saying that.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, thank ahead. I finally got it. Been
Speaker 1: asking for this for a long time.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, So we opened up the books for you. We're
Speaker 9: going to go ahead and give you your your hood pass.
Speaker 9: So and uh, by default, I mean Marvin was born
Speaker 9: in it, Dan, you're sworn in it and so.
Speaker 12: But the other but the other guys, the other guys
Speaker 12: that when they when they show up to any basketball court,
Speaker 12: any barbershop, or any family function in the Brooklyn area,
Speaker 12: they have to mention your name.
Speaker 9: Then the password is capital Dan, caple Dan. So what
Speaker 9: we're gonna do? I want to ask you a question.
Speaker 9: So you're a bit of a gambler, at least you
Speaker 9: have the history, a little sketchy history. Maybe my grandfather
Speaker 9: took one of your bets here there. I don't know.
Speaker 9: So well, I'm gonna ask you couple Dan Game seven
Speaker 9: on the road NBA Finals, and let's just say somehow
Speaker 9: somewhere your pocket pool hand is on the line, all right,
Speaker 9: Michael Jordan or Lebron James.
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan, That one's easy, Yeah, Mike, all day, all night, all.
Speaker 1: Week, all day, all night. Yes, yes, all.
Speaker 2: Right, let me take a break. Mike Florio will join us.
Speaker 2: Chris Collinsworth will stop by as well. We're back after
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Speaker 2: against the Saints, underlisted at forty. All right, we have
Speaker 2: Chris collins Worth coming up. He has the Sunday night
Speaker 2: game Eagles and the Dolphins. But first I want to
Speaker 2: bring in Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live co host
Speaker 2: and a contributor to Football Night in America, because we
Speaker 2: saw a story back in I think July that hinted
Speaker 2: at Caleb Williams maybe wanting a piece of the franchise,
Speaker 2: if whoever he's drafted by Aaron Rodgers with the Jets,
Speaker 2: did he ask for a piece of the team. And
Speaker 2: I'm curious that it got so much traction because you
Speaker 2: can't it's not allowable. But it surfaced again, and then
Speaker 2: I thought, is somebody maybe trying to sabotage Caleb Williams
Speaker 2: now putting it out there again? So I thought, let
Speaker 2: me get Mike Florio here to help us understand this.
Speaker 2: Go back to the story, the genesis of it, and
Speaker 2: how we got to this moment now with Caleb Williams.
Speaker 11: Mike, let me make it as simple as possible. Dan.
Speaker 11: Back in July, when the league approved the sale of
Speaker 11: the Commanders to Josh Harris, one of the other items
Speaker 11: of business was to slam the door on any equity
Speaker 11: transfers to play a non players period. Now, you don't
Speaker 11: just make those decisions out of thin air. You do
Speaker 11: it because you're aware that some stuff may be going
Speaker 11: on and it may be an issue. So the league
Speaker 11: preemptively says this can't happen. In the immediate aftermath of that,
Speaker 11: sources that I trust very deeply, not to be confused
Speaker 11: with the sources I don't trust, but still listen to it,
Speaker 11: but sources I trust very deeply, said Number one. Aaron
Speaker 11: Rodgers had been trying to shake a little equity out
Speaker 11: of the Woody Johnson tree, and now that's over. And
Speaker 11: also Caleb Williams dad had been telling prospective agents that's
Speaker 11: one of the things he's looking for.
Speaker 10: Now.
Speaker 11: Look, does Caleb Williams dad understand how it works? No,
Speaker 11: But it doesn't matter once they slam the door on
Speaker 11: and then I think what happened Dan was he had
Speaker 11: a bad game Saturday night, and it's a perfect opportunity
Speaker 11: to crap on Caleb Williams. So these Twitter bought accounts
Speaker 11: start dusting off a three month old story to make
Speaker 11: Caleb look unreasonable, even though it's completely irrelevant.
Speaker 13: To anything that's happening.
Speaker 1: Now, that's it, in a nutshell, Okay.
Speaker 2: Is Caleb Williams saying there's only five teams that he
Speaker 2: would want to play for?
Speaker 1: Is that I saw that?
Speaker 4: I saw that somewhere on Twitter.
Speaker 11: Yeah, and I haven't seen it source to anyone. Look,
Speaker 11: I think Caleb Williams and his dad are in the
Speaker 11: process of trying to understand what leverage he has and
Speaker 11: how to go about using it for the NFL. This
Speaker 11: is like Haley's common It happens once every twenty one years.
Speaker 11: John Elway did it in eighty three, Eli Manning does
Speaker 11: it in four. Is Caleb Williams gonna do it? One
Speaker 11: of these guys is gonna do it because they're either
Speaker 11: going to stay in school for another year or they're
Speaker 11: gonna have enough money in the bank from their nil
Speaker 11: payments that they can say, if you draft me, I'm
Speaker 11: sitting out the whole year and doing it all over again.
Speaker 11: So I think they're just in the process of figuring
Speaker 11: out what their leverage is and how they're willing to
Speaker 11: use it.
Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Mike.
Speaker 2: See yeah, that's Mike Florio Pro Football Talk Live co host,
Speaker 2: and now we bring in Chris collins Worth Football Night
Speaker 2: in America Sunday Night football. Are you following all of
Speaker 2: this stuff, Chris with Caleb Williams, what's going on? What
Speaker 2: he wants and what's true and what's not true? Uh,
Speaker 2: we got to unmute you, Chris?
Speaker 1: Is that us?
Speaker 11: That?
Speaker 1: Marvin?
Speaker 2: Oh? All right, we'll figure this out with your setup
Speaker 2: was gorgeously it was. It was thought hello and nicely,
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you. I've been doing this a long time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, going back to the Caleb Williams story, the other
Speaker 4: sports outlets this week, I use media outlets air quoting.
Speaker 4: They're not putting it in the same perspective Mike Florio
Speaker 4: did that his dad inquired with agents. That is this
Speaker 4: even possible? You see articles out there Caleb Booms wants
Speaker 4: a piece of ownership if he's going to the NFL.
Speaker 2: Let's try this again with Chris Collinsworth. Chris, what do
Speaker 2: you make of all this? Caleb Williams talk.
Speaker 13: Well, for being on your show, I'd like to have
Speaker 13: a piece of your show, and you know, I think
Speaker 13: that would.
Speaker 2: I think we can arrange that. You know, the piece
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you is Fritzy.
Speaker 1: You can have.
Speaker 2: Fritzy Fritzy all right, I'll take full ownership there.
Speaker 13: Yeah, send them over, send him over. We're going to
Speaker 13: work with them.
Speaker 1: So what do you make of the Caleb Williams story?
Speaker 13: Why not?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 13: I mean, you can take a shot at anything you want,
Speaker 13: and more and more we're seeing family members involved with negotiations,
Speaker 13: at least as it comes to agents. And if I
Speaker 13: heard the story correctly, it was the dad trying to
Speaker 13: tell agents that they would like to have a piece
Speaker 13: of a team. So it didn't make its way all
Speaker 13: the way to Caleb's agent as I heard it asking
Speaker 13: for it. It was the dad talking to the agents
Speaker 13: about it. And I mean, shoot, I've been in a
Speaker 13: few negotiations myself over the years. You asked for a
Speaker 13: lot of things. It doesn't mean you're going to end
Speaker 13: up with it. So, I mean, this kid's obviously a
Speaker 13: special player. He's going to have options that nobody has
Speaker 13: ever had before coming out of college, including staying at
Speaker 13: USC or going to any other school that he would
Speaker 13: like to go to because of the nature of college
Speaker 13: football right now. So I think it's going to be interesting.
Speaker 13: I think in many ways, he is going to be
Speaker 13: the next or the first real test case of how
Speaker 13: far can a great player, in particular a great quarterback
Speaker 13: push the limits of the NFL, because remember you've got
Speaker 13: the rookie wage scale, You've got a lot of things
Speaker 13: to where if somebody at USC comes up with some
Speaker 13: monster number, like why would he not stay? And I've
Speaker 13: always thought the one possible competitor to the NFL would
Speaker 13: be college football because you've got that core base of
Speaker 13: fans built into it. I think as the SEC and
Speaker 13: the Big Ten sort of take over the universe, we're
Speaker 13: going to see almost an AFC and NFC kind of rivalry.
Speaker 13: And we know historically how that had gone. But is
Speaker 13: there a case I can make a case that Caleb
Speaker 13: Williams value to USC is really a lot bigger than
Speaker 13: what he's getting paid. Because I was on the radio
Speaker 13: show one time and I said something about, I'll bet
Speaker 13: you the amount of money the University of Kentucky gets
Speaker 13: when they win a national championship, not to the college,
Speaker 13: not to the sports fund, but to the general university
Speaker 13: fund is probably double when they win the national championship
Speaker 13: in basketball. For three hours on the radio on WLW
Speaker 13: radio in Cincinnati, I was told what a complete idiot
Speaker 13: that I was, how stupid I was. I was so
Speaker 13: beat down. Dan I really did. I believed them, and
Speaker 13: it turned out they were right. It wasn't twice as much,
Speaker 13: it was five times as much. And so now if
Speaker 13: you take that and Caleb Williams is stirring the pot
Speaker 13: and they're getting all these rich alone from USC coming
Speaker 13: in the pot, are they making an extra hundred million dollars? Well,
Speaker 13: if they are, can we give him twenty million of it? Well?
Speaker 13: If we do, does that keep him in college? You know,
Speaker 13: there's there's situations here that we haven't even discussed yet
Speaker 13: that are going to be fun to watch.
Speaker 2: We're talking to Chris Collinsworth full introduction, the former Bengals
Speaker 2: wide receiver majority owner of Pro Football Focus, and he'll
Speaker 2: be on the call with Mike Turco. That'll be Sunday night,
Speaker 2: Dolphins Eagles, eight twenty Eastern on NBC and Peacock. I'll
Speaker 2: give you Tua or I'll give you Jalen Hurts. You
Speaker 2: got to pick between the two.
Speaker 13: Wow, which offense do I get to run?
Speaker 2: You're starting your team? There's no offense yet.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think I might take Mike McDaniel, you know,
Speaker 13: I mean, so, here's here's one of the things A
Speaker 13: defensive coordinator in the league said to me about Tua,
Speaker 13: said that he thinks he's the next Drew Brees because
Speaker 13: his ability to read things so quickly, and they're playing
Speaker 13: in that West Coast offense, and he's always been a
Speaker 13: footwork guy. The thing I loved about him coming out
Speaker 13: of Alabama, and everybody always wants to talk about arm strength,
Speaker 13: and it's so overdone. I mean, you have to have
Speaker 13: a certain level of arm strength in order to play
Speaker 13: in this league. He has that, but then it's the
Speaker 13: ability to process quickly, like brock Party's doing in San
Speaker 13: Francisco in the same offense, process quickly and throw the
Speaker 13: ball to windows. You're not throwing it to a guy.
Speaker 13: He is not out there throwing it to Jaylen Waddle.
Speaker 13: He is throwing it to a five y five window
Speaker 13: on that deep incut and basing it on the footwork
Speaker 13: that he has. And Tua is one of the best
Speaker 13: I've seen coming out and the comparison to Drew was
Speaker 13: a pretty good one. A guy who nobody talked about
Speaker 13: his arm strength, right, but his ability to process, get
Speaker 13: the ball out of his hand, throw it in the
Speaker 13: right window, anticipate throws, all those kinds of things. So
Speaker 13: I do think that too a while. Maybe if he
Speaker 13: were in Buffalo would not be what Josh Allen is,
Speaker 13: you know, because you've got to have the huge arm
Speaker 13: and a big hand and bad weather and all those
Speaker 13: kinds of things. But playing in Miami, playing in great
Speaker 13: weather and playing in this style of offense, I'll take
Speaker 13: Drew Brees all day in that style, and I think
Speaker 13: that's the fit. And in Philadelphia, you know, you've got
Speaker 13: a team that's built around their offensive line and their
Speaker 13: ability to run the football. And we're going to see
Speaker 13: because Miami struggled a little bit against Carolina trying to
Speaker 13: you know, run the football there or stop the run there.
Speaker 13: So this this style of offense, this run first approach
Speaker 13: in Philadelphia that as soon as you start playing the run,
Speaker 13: they've got Devonte Smith on the outside and AJ Brown.
Speaker 13: Now you've got those guys one on one. That's a headache,
Speaker 13: that's a problem out there. So the quarterbacks are where
Speaker 13: they should be. I don't know, you flip flopped these
Speaker 13: two quarterbacks, and it makes much.
Speaker 2: Sense if Rock Perty is an MVP candidate, why is
Speaker 2: Jared Goff not one.
Speaker 13: It's a great question. You know, I think that we
Speaker 13: saw them beat Kansas City on Opening Night, and there's
Speaker 13: something about this team and it goes back to a
Speaker 13: season ago. I mean they won what was it eight
Speaker 13: out of their last ten something like that, and then
Speaker 13: jump out to the start that they are here. So
Speaker 13: this is a team now that is playing. I think
Speaker 13: the hard part for most people to wrap their head
Speaker 13: around is that if he were really that good of
Speaker 13: a player, why isn't he still in LA right?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 13: And I mean it's not like Sean doesn't know what
Speaker 13: he's doing out there, so you know, that's probably the answer.
Speaker 13: But we're a long way to go. I mean, these
Speaker 13: seasons are so long. I feel like I've been calling
Speaker 13: a game every week now for the last six years
Speaker 13: and we're not even to the halfway point here. So
Speaker 13: you know, everybody always says, well, who the think's gonna
Speaker 13: win the Super Bowl? And who's gonna do that?
Speaker 6: Like, tell me who's.
Speaker 13: Playing in January, right, tell me what the lineup looks
Speaker 13: like in January, and I'll tell you which team it is.
Speaker 13: That I like because it's such a war of attrition.
Speaker 13: You never know who's still going to be standing at
Speaker 13: the end of the season. We saw just taking out
Speaker 13: Lane Johnson for Philadelphia had a major impact on that
Speaker 13: game the other day, the right tackle. So you know,
Speaker 13: a lot of these guys are people that you know
Speaker 13: and that you know well, but so many times it's
Speaker 13: the offensive and defensive line, which Philadelphia every year they're
Speaker 13: drafting an offensive or a defensive lineman, right, they're going
Speaker 13: to try and win in the trenches down there, and
Speaker 13: they got away with a second round pick a quarterback
Speaker 13: who ends up being, you know, playing one of the
Speaker 13: great games we've seen in Super Bowl history, except for
Speaker 13: one play.
Speaker 2: Speaking of the trenches, it feels like competition committee looking
Speaker 2: at that brotherly shove, the you know, the tush push man.
Speaker 2: It feels like it's too predictable, almost like extra points,
Speaker 2: and that they may want to take it away.
Speaker 1: Where do you where do you? What do you think
Speaker 1: the future is of that play?
Speaker 13: I love that play. I hope they never take that
Speaker 13: play away. The reason I love to play is a
Speaker 13: former offensive guy, there's nothing better than walking up to
Speaker 13: the line of scrimmage and basically telling the defense we
Speaker 13: are running right there, right there, and you can't stop it.
Speaker 13: Boomersias And one time we're playing the Buffalo Bills, I
Speaker 13: want to say. I think it was in the AFC
Speaker 13: Championship game and and he goes up to the line
Speaker 13: of scrimmage and he starts pointing at Bruce Smith over
Speaker 13: Anthony Munos, and he goes, hey, Bruce, Bruce, we're running
Speaker 13: right there. Anthony Munos is the greatest player in the world.
Speaker 13: We're running right there, and we're scoring a touchdown. And Anthony,
Speaker 13: you can see him on the film, he's like, he's
Speaker 13: like waving, you know, he's like, he's like, shut up.
Speaker 1: Like what are you doing.
Speaker 13: He comes over to me on the side line and
Speaker 13: he goes, Chris, Chris, you got to get Boomer to
Speaker 13: shut up. He's just pissing off, you know, Bruce over there.
Speaker 13: I'm like, I don't care. I'm just trying to talk
Speaker 13: him into throwing me the ball. I don't care what
Speaker 13: he does with Bruce Smith over there. You're crazy.
Speaker 2: What what's the fan base that gets the most upset
Speaker 2: at you?
Speaker 13: Cincinnati to win the Super Bowl this year? I know,
Speaker 13: I know as soon as I did, they started losing games.
Speaker 13: It's unbelievable. But yeah, I mean I had one lady
Speaker 13: one time. She uh so, I was in a doctor's
Speaker 13: office and I go in and show she's mad at me.
Speaker 13: I can tell she's mad at me. And I was like, oh, man,
Speaker 13: I must have forgot to you know, pay her or
Speaker 13: you know, do the paperwork or something whatever they get
Speaker 13: mad at you and doctor's offices for. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 13: I said, well, you know what's up here? What's the problem?
Speaker 13: And she goes. I listened to the game the other night.
Speaker 13: They scored four touchdowns in that game, and you didn't say,
Speaker 13: whod ain't after one single one of them. I'm like,
Speaker 13: I go, yeah, no, I can't do that. I'm not
Speaker 13: allowed to say. But they expect me to root for
Speaker 13: the Bengals. So when I got the Super Bowl the
Speaker 13: year that the Bengals were in it, I was like, oh,
Speaker 13: this is that. There there's no way either I'm going
Speaker 13: to be a complete homer in the eyes of the
Speaker 13: Rams fans or I'm gonna be a complete jerk in
Speaker 13: the eyes of the Bengals fans. I mean it was
Speaker 13: remember the old TV show Dragnet. You know, just the facts, ma'am.
Speaker 13: I was just the facts, ma'am.
Speaker 2: And that Super Bowl Trevor Lawrence poll question Seaton give
Speaker 2: Chris the wording on that see where Chris falls on it.
Speaker 3: The wording is Dan Trevor Lawrence is dot dot dot
Speaker 3: a top ten quarterback or somewhat disappointing.
Speaker 13: I'm going to say a top ten quarterback. I don't
Speaker 13: know that I would have said that originally, but I
Speaker 13: do think that Doug Peterson has had an impact on him.
Speaker 13: He's better than what he was. And you know, it's
Speaker 13: so funny that these guys that get drafted high, right,
Speaker 13: they get multiple opportunities. I mean, think if Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 13: were a fifth round pick that happened to get to
Speaker 13: play right in his first year and that was all
Speaker 13: we saw. We saw one year he was a fifth
Speaker 13: round pick and that was it. We would have collectively,
Speaker 13: I think, gone, he doesn't have it right, he doesn't
Speaker 13: have it, and they would have moved on and he
Speaker 13: would have been one of those second string guys that
Speaker 13: bounce from team to team until he's out of football.
Speaker 13: But when they're the first overall pick, you've seen it
Speaker 13: somewhere and you just keep you just keep giving them
Speaker 13: the ball, or you change coaches or you do like.
Speaker 13: The belief is that he's going to get there. And
Speaker 13: I always wonder how many guys would have if they
Speaker 13: would have been given the three or the four year
Speaker 13: window of opportunity, could have worked their way out of
Speaker 13: it and become something. You know, But if you're even
Speaker 13: a second round draft pick or a late first round
Speaker 13: draft pick, it seems like you get seven, eight, nine
Speaker 13: games and it's you're not making magic out there. They're
Speaker 13: they're turning the page. So I think that there's enough
Speaker 13: of an upward trajectory here to where I think you go. Yeah,
Speaker 13: if I only got to take the top ten guys
Speaker 13: and I got one of those ten and he were
Speaker 13: one of the ten, would I take him?
Speaker 9: Yes? I would.
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you, Chris, Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2: Have fun on Sunday Night. Thank you, Dan Good Say
Speaker 2: anybody that's Chris collins Worth Football Night in America. He'll
Speaker 2: be there with Mike Turrico eight twenty Eastern. It'll be
Speaker 2: the Eagles in the Dolphins. Here's a name, now, maybe
Speaker 2: not a popular name with a lot of people, but
Speaker 2: for MVP Candidacy, Tyreek Hill. Is Tyreek Hill more valuable
Speaker 2: to that Dolphin offense than two And I'm just talking
Speaker 2: about this season because Tyreek Hill, there's nobody like Tyreek
Speaker 2: Hill in the NFL. And I don't know if it's
Speaker 2: because off the field stuff with Tyreek Hill that you know,
Speaker 2: he's not in the conversation, but he should be. You know,
Speaker 2: whether we like you or not, are you an MVP candidate?
Speaker 2: And he's been dynamic, Yes, Pauli.
Speaker 4: Tyreek Hill this year is averaging one hundred and thirty
Speaker 4: six yards receiving per game. Now, if you know, that
Speaker 4: would clearly break the single season in total number record.
Speaker 4: But if even if you went with it, there's never
Speaker 4: been a receiver in history to average more than one
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty six yards a game in a season
Speaker 4: where it's at least nine or ten games. He's like
Speaker 4: Wes Chandler in an eight game season did one to
Speaker 4: twenty six. He's at one thirty five point seven.
Speaker 2: He's not in the on the short list of MVP
Speaker 2: candidates right now. Tua is leading, but Tyreek Hill could
Speaker 2: get two thousand yards this year.
Speaker 1: And he, to me is.
Speaker 2: When you go out on the field and you go, Okay,
Speaker 2: how many guys do we have that are better than
Speaker 2: your guys? You start with Tyreek Hill. You go, that
Speaker 2: guy's better than anybody you have, and he is going
Speaker 2: to It's inevitable he's going.
Speaker 1: To make plays.
Speaker 2: But he should be in an MVP conversation and Jared
Speaker 2: Goff should be as well, I think because Jared Goff
Speaker 2: got traded from the Rams and they won a Super
Speaker 2: Bowl with Matthew Stafford. Therefore, Jared Goff wasn't good or
Speaker 2: isn't good, but he has been in the last sixteen games,
Speaker 2: he's been unbelievable. You could put his numbers in the
Speaker 2: last sixteen games dating back to the second half of
Speaker 2: last year and this year he's as good as any
Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL. The numbers show that. And even
Speaker 2: this year he's you know, there's only two is the
Speaker 2: only guy who has, you know, better stats I think
Speaker 2: than Jared Goff does this year, and that's being in
Speaker 2: the top five and you know, TD to interception ratio,
Speaker 2: completion percentage and y'all cards, and you know he's done
Speaker 2: what you want. Because the Lions, we think of their
Speaker 2: coach Dan Campbell, I mean, they are kind of a
Speaker 2: faceless franchise that we think of the players who used
Speaker 2: to be there. When you think of the Lions, you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: Barry Sanders, Megatron. You know, we think of what they
Speaker 2: had before, not necessarily what they have now, other than
Speaker 2: they have a great team, and that coach is the
Speaker 2: one who gets he's the focal point. Normally it's the quarterback,
Speaker 2: but it's I don't think people want to embrace Jared
Speaker 2: Goff and say, yep, you know, this isn't fools gold,
Speaker 2: this is real. And he's got sixteen games where they've
Speaker 2: gone thirteen and three of those last sixteen games, so
Speaker 2: he's doing something right.
Speaker 6: Yes, marm What do you think the Lions would consider
Speaker 6: to be a successful season.
Speaker 2: I'd say probably you win two playoff games. I would
Speaker 2: think so, But you know, I don't want to speak
Speaker 2: for Lions fans who have been waiting for any kind
Speaker 2: of success. It might be no, we want to go
Speaker 2: to the super Bowl, or we want to go to
Speaker 2: an NFC title gain.
Speaker 1: I would think if you had.
Speaker 2: Two wins, that's successful.
Speaker 1: Do you get to the super Bowl? What a great story.
Speaker 1: But I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean they're starved for Hey, we want to make
Speaker 2: sure we make the playoffs and we host a playoff
Speaker 2: game and we win a playoff game.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Mark, Yeah, If the forty nine ers don't make
Speaker 6: the Super Bowl. The lines would be my pick. I
Speaker 6: would love to see Detroit fans all over it. Those
Speaker 6: no one seen it, No Lions fan has seen them
Speaker 6: be that successful.
Speaker 2: Ever, Well, I think you've got to go back to
Speaker 2: the mid forties when they want a championship.
Speaker 6: So no one living, no has seen them.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe a couple, a couple of people probably.
Speaker 4: Well, how ol would you Let's say you were ten
Speaker 4: in nineteen forty five. Do the math, Do the math.
Speaker 4: You'd be like, what, eighty eight years old at least?
Speaker 9: Ok.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's probably somebody who's still alive. They might be
Speaker 2: listening to us.
Speaker 1: You never never know. Yes, who had a hip? Yeah? Yes,
Speaker 1: somebody who's laid up.
Speaker 3: It's got my hip work done.
Speaker 1: So wait they won in fifty seven.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Detroit Lions won the World Championship as it's called
Speaker 4: in nineteen fifty seven, ninety fifty three, in nineteen fifty two.
Speaker 1: Yes, Ton, what would be the best.
Speaker 7: AFC story Bills Bengals, Browns.
Speaker 8: If we're looking at the Lions on the NFC side
Speaker 8: reaching the Super Bowl this year, it would be great
Speaker 8: for whom.
Speaker 2: I would say the Bills only if the Bills win,
Speaker 2: because if they go back and then they lose, I mean,
Speaker 2: then it's abandoned ship. It just feels like nobody will
Speaker 2: ever go I'm gonna pick the Bills this year, yes, Mark.
Speaker 6: And as a Bills fan, you're gonna say we lost
Speaker 6: to the Lions, no matter how good the lines are.
Speaker 6: Just historically, yeah, losing to the lines would just not
Speaker 6: be a good look for Bills fan.
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Speaker 2: This day in sports history, what we learn, what's in
Speaker 2: store tomorrow? A meet Friday Baseball This afternoon, Phillies and
Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks, Astros, Rangers later tonight, and Jags and the Saints.
Speaker 2: The Jags getting a point? All right, Shawn and Florida.
Speaker 2: Good morning, Sean, what's on your mind?
Speaker 15: First time long? Six foot two oh five, dad body?
Speaker 15: I want to say, what's up to? The only gentleman
Speaker 15: on the staff, our own Bert Young, miss Year, Todd
Speaker 15: Fritzler and h calling about baseball playoffs major League Baseball.
Speaker 15: We'll have no one in the stands at three o'clock
Speaker 15: because Major League baseball is the only profession where you
Speaker 15: have to pay more. The higher you go up the ranks.
Speaker 15: Any other job, the higher you go, the less you work.
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks Sean. I'm not sure were we on a topic?
Speaker 2: And then he was following up on a topic.
Speaker 4: I know that the gamesoul be at three o'clock in Phoenix,
Speaker 4: but I don't see his reasoning for all people aren't
Speaker 4: going to show up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm exel show up today. Fans will Okay, let's
Speaker 2: see Tommy in Wisconsin. Hi, Tommy, what's on your mind?
Speaker 16: Good morning, Dan FM radio guy here in Wisconsin, one
Speaker 16: point eighty kind of a soft six foot you would say, congratulations, Dan.
Speaker 16: I want to be the first to congratulate you on
Speaker 16: making it into the Barbershop Advisor Consultant Hall of Fame,
Speaker 16: or as we like to call it, the vssachof So
Speaker 16: congratulations on that. I know it takes years to get
Speaker 16: into the Barbershop Consultant Hall of Fame. Quick question, Caleb Williams,
Speaker 16: he's trying it in football. Do you think a baseball
Speaker 16: player like shoe Otani might have a better luck getting
Speaker 16: part of a team because they that's legal.
Speaker 2: That's the thing, Tommy, Like, if you I guess, the
Speaker 2: best way I can put it is, let's say I
Speaker 2: don't want to pay shoeo Tani six hundred million dollars,
Speaker 2: but I want to give him a piece of the team.
Speaker 2: So now I have an unfair advantage as far as
Speaker 2: I'm going to save six hundred million dollars, I'm giving
Speaker 2: him a piece of the team. Or let's say I
Speaker 2: give him fifty million dollars. Let's say you want to
Speaker 2: give Patrick Mahomes a piece of the Chiefs but I
Speaker 2: don't want to pay him sixty million dollars. I'm going
Speaker 2: to pay him five million dollars a year. It's an
Speaker 2: unfair advantage. And that's why you can't have this. Oh
Speaker 2: it takes one call a text and you'll go. NFL
Speaker 2: will say no, no, you can't do that. And maybe
Speaker 2: that's what happened, but it's not going to happen with anybody.
Speaker 2: And I remember we had Jim ersay on and I said, hey,
Speaker 2: would you ever sell a piece of your team to
Speaker 2: Peyton Manny Goes?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 2: I said, wait, Peyton Manny Goes No, I would never
Speaker 2: ever ever sell any portion of my ownership here. I'm
Speaker 2: not going to give it to show Hey U Tani
Speaker 2: or Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: Not going to happen.
Speaker 5: It's more like a least to own kind of thing
Speaker 5: to lease use some of this for two years.
Speaker 6: How's that say?
Speaker 2: Once again, Todd, I know it's been an emotional day.
Speaker 2: Bert Young, who played Polly and Rocky, passed away. He
Speaker 2: had a wonderful tribute song brought tears to our eyes
Speaker 2: and some ringing to our listener's ears. But you did
Speaker 2: a wonderful John, Thanks, thank you.
Speaker 1: This dang sports history poem.
Speaker 4: Nineteen ninety eight, Former heavyway champ Mike Tyson got his
Speaker 4: boxing license back after biting Evander Holyfield's ear off the
Speaker 4: year before.
Speaker 1: What did it sound like in the ring with Mills Lane?
Speaker 7: Mike to bid him?
Speaker 1: Take it a point off?
Speaker 7: You do it again, You're out.
Speaker 8: Andy's just trying to bite an't even bite him anything else.
Speaker 4: Quick one quick whiz Blank Blank, Cowboys running back in
Speaker 4: twenty fourteen, became the first NFL player to run for
Speaker 4: one hundred yards or more in the first seven games
Speaker 4: of a season. Twenty fourteen Dallas Cowboys running back.
Speaker 1: Blank Mary and Barber.
Speaker 9: No.
Speaker 4: I love him though, great player.
Speaker 6: Mariv DeMarco Murray no.
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