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Speaker 1: Who do who?

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Speaker 2: This is George and I am here to say that

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Speaker 2: guess what. I Am taking my stand up show on

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Speaker 2: the road this summer, and I'm going on a little

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Speaker 2: tour in July and August, and my first show will

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Speaker 2: be in none other than Chicago on July twelfth. You

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Speaker 2: can find tickets in my Instagram bio at linktree dot

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Speaker 2: com slash George Severs. That is link l I Nktree,

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Speaker 2: t r ee dot com slash George Severs. And if

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Speaker 2: you live in Pittsburgh, Philly, Boston, DC, Seattle, Portland, or

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Speaker 2: San Francisco, all of those tickets will become available very soon,

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Speaker 2: so check back in at linktree dot com slash George

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Speaker 2: Severs in the coming days. But for now, if you

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Speaker 2: live in Chicago, please buy tickets to my show on

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Speaker 2: July twelfth. It's going to be at the Den Theater,

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Speaker 2: which is where we did our Stradio Lib show. I'm

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Speaker 2: so excited. It is my first time ever headlining in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait, can't wait to see everyone, So please

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Speaker 2: please buy tickets and bring your friends all right, enjoy

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Speaker 2: the episode.

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Speaker 3: Bye podcast starts now wow wow wow wow wow. Welcome

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Speaker 3: all to America's favorite podcast. I am here with my

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Speaker 3: co host George Savers, who's tapping in from New York

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Speaker 3: City's the weather like over there?

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you it is a scorcher, folks. It is

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Speaker 2: a scorcher outside, folks. People are dropping left and right

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Speaker 2: because of the weather. Now.

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Speaker 3: I love when you do accent work. I find it

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Speaker 3: so amazing.

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Speaker 2: So good at it too.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I'll say this. Most people, let's say they have a

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Speaker 2: work event they have to go to. Potentially they're coming

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Speaker 2: from somewhere else the gym. Potentially they bring a nice

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Speaker 2: shirt to change into. I came into this recording I

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Speaker 2: had to wear a nice shirt for something else, and

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Speaker 2: I said, I can't look like a fucking nerd. So

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Speaker 2: I put a my little novelty Nicole Kidman T shirt

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Speaker 3: So wow, Yeah, I was trying to figure out what

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Speaker 3: musical artist that was. It's actually the musical artist Nicole Kidman.

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Speaker 3: She was in the musical Moulin.

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Speaker 2: Rouge and she is one of our great recording artists

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Speaker 2: in this country.

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Speaker 3: Australia, Australia. So, George, you just bought your wedding suit

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Speaker 3: and how do you feel.

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Speaker 2: I actually feel really good. Believe it or not. You know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what do what you go with good?

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Speaker 3: Obviously, my wedding is all going to be behind the

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Speaker 3: Patreon paywall, and that's the primary reason that I'm getting married,

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Speaker 3: so I don't want to give too much away. Of course,

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Speaker 3: of course I'm trying to even think if I want

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Speaker 3: to say this, I made a decision that is pretty groundbreaking.

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Speaker 3: What's that?

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Speaker 2: I went ready for this? Double I repeat double breasted.

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Speaker 3: Wow. I love that. I think that's cool. I celebrate you.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I was going into it and I was like, you

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Speaker 2: have to I have to actually something for people watching

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Speaker 2: at home that I have to say. A really harrowing

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Speaker 2: activity that you can do, that anyone can do really

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Speaker 2: in their own free time is google gay wedding suits

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Speaker 2: and like look through the Google images. It's actually crazy

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Speaker 2: the things people are coming up with. You start to think,

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Speaker 2: do straight people actually have better taste than gay people overall?

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Speaker 3: I mean, they definitely know when to pull back. It's

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Speaker 3: a skill we don't have.

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Speaker 2: You think you can scroll Obviously, I understand that many

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Speaker 2: you'll find some inspiration. Literally, not a single one of

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Speaker 2: them is normal. I saw multiple. I sort of, God,

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Speaker 2: this is true. I saw multiple same sex, male identified

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Speaker 2: couples where one was wearing a tux and one was

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Speaker 2: wearing a white tux with a veil. No, I'm not getting.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that hurts. That really hurts.

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Speaker 2: Well, I go ahead.

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Speaker 3: I mean I do have to ask, are you in

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Speaker 3: Matthew like co ordinating? Like are you matching?

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Speaker 2: This big question? And I don't know how interesting this is,

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Speaker 2: So we're both doing so we're both doing double breasted,

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Speaker 2: be MATCHI matchie because I know how much you hate

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Speaker 2: matching a MATCHI everyone at home knows this. Sam to him,

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Speaker 2: the biggest trigger is when things are too matchy matchy.

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Speaker 2: He hates it more than you know, rising fascism threats

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Speaker 2: and democracy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, unfortunately you can't vote to stop No.

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Speaker 2: If only you got this country would not be in

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Speaker 2: the place it is now.

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Speaker 3: I just think, I mean, that's the biggest failing of

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Speaker 3: a gay wedding is like, inherently it's gonna be MATCHI, MATCHI.

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Speaker 2: Not only is it inherently gonna be matche maccie. I

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Speaker 2: hate to say this, but it's just inherently it's gonna

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Speaker 2: look tacky in some way that you don't understand how

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Speaker 2: much I've been searching for a way to not have

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Speaker 2: it look tacky. But two men is tacky aesthetically, I think,

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Speaker 2: you know, politically, it's I think I'm pro marriage equality overall,

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Speaker 2: think esthetically you're just never and don't get me started

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Speaker 3: Well, I actually think two women is always kind of

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Speaker 3: not like like a gay It's true, that's just like

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Speaker 3: a muscle gay man, like being like having a veil

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Speaker 3: and you're like, okay, but that this is this is

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Speaker 2: You know what's crazy is like, let gay women can

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Speaker 2: actually literally be in a suit and address, which you

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Speaker 2: like even gayer for doing that. Yeah, it's really whereas

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Speaker 2: then they're like Pete Buddhage Edge and Chasten And if

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for a second I thought Angie was a person.

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Speaker 3: I was like, who are insane? And on G I

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Speaker 3: was like wait, I was like some new like internet celebrity.

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Speaker 3: Just to have you heard the new on G track?

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Speaker 3: I know people are like ironically standing on G and.

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Speaker 2: Featured on the new Charlie XX remix of Everything Is Romantic.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I love Angi. Yeah, well that's be big.

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Speaker 2: Do you think Angie will like hit it big at

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Speaker 3: I think Angi is going to have a song like

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Speaker 3: And I actually heard that Angie is working with Sam

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Speaker 3: it's like they will be, but at what cost?

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And the thing is, it's like you have to

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Speaker 2: first pay your dues as an indie artist before you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know that's Anjie thinks they're too

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Speaker 3: big to fail, but they're in for a root awakening

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Speaker 3: when the charts, once the charts statistics come out. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: You know what I think is happening. Currently, the James

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Speaker 2: Bond Estate is courting Angie to do the next Bond theme.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna write one, but it's like they've they've already

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Speaker 2: tiktoks and songs and everything by their management, so they're

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Speaker 2: running out of good ideas. They're gonna submit the Bond song,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be a complete flop and then it's just

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Speaker 2: going to go to you know, Kim Petri's.

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Speaker 3: Well, then I would have to stand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love it if Kim Petris wrote a

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Speaker 2: just Coconuts by Kim Petris.

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Speaker 3: That actually would be groundbreaking, so great.

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Speaker 2: That's for the next Bond movie. It should be Coconuts

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Speaker 2: by Kim Petri's with a really dramatic opening credit sequence

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Speaker 2: where it's like Oca that's breaking and then blood coming

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Speaker 3: It's like, why don't they ever have fun with it?

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Speaker 3: Like for too long it's been so dramatic.

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Speaker 2: That's actually that's a really good point. They should do

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think. I mean it's time to bring it

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Speaker 3: enough Adele doing the Bond theme.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. And James Bond should be played by

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Speaker 2: Alexa Demi. Period.

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Speaker 3: I've been I'm ironically saying period again.

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Speaker 2: No, same, it's bad. It's actually can I say something,

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Speaker 2: you know, what's out what saying ultimately? Ooh? I think

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Speaker 2: that the ironic thing of being like ultimately we went

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Speaker 3: Can I tell you something that I think is in

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: String cheese?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I think so true that Actually I don't.

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Speaker 3: I think string cheese is so in and and it

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Speaker 3: actually gave me a.

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Speaker 2: Bit of a complex because I was saying more well.

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Speaker 3: Because I was eating string cheese and I was like,

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Speaker 3: this is so in, and I was like, is it

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Speaker 3: in because i'm eating it currently?

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Speaker 2: No? No, no, no, no, that's insane for you to have.

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, I'm doing it right now. But okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I was at a bar with my

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Speaker 1: absolutely wrapped, and then they offered it to her afterwards.

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Speaker 2: That is that's really misogyny.

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Speaker 3: Okay, different angles.

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Speaker 2: You're hitting a with a piece of string trees and

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Speaker 2: then saying eat it.

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Speaker 3: But then they gave it to her.

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Speaker 1: She didn't want it, she didn't take it, Yes, but

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Speaker 1: they offered it, which I think is the kindness. But

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Speaker 1: the misogyny is the strike in the.

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Speaker 2: First of course, the hitting of a woman with a

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Speaker 2: piece of string cheese a phallic object, if you will.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't consider the phallus.

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Speaker 2: Well, I forgot to consider the fallus as well. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: but if anyone at home is not considering the fallus,

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Speaker 2: press pause right now and delt this from your feet,

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Speaker 2: because we do not want ultimately.

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Speaker 3: I forgot to consider the vowel.

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Speaker 2: Ultimately, that's exactly. That's the perfect use of the kind

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Speaker 2: of ultimately. That's out.

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Speaker 2: No, it's great. We need to bring us an example

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Speaker 2: well welcome Vinnie Thomas. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Are you mad? I shouldn't have jumped in. I want

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Speaker 2: Mean, what would you wear to your gay wedding?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, the suits can't be the same, right,

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Speaker 2: This is the thing. It's yeah, I would do.

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Speaker 3: if you're both in suits, I'm like, well, you're matching.

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Speaker 1: Well no, I mean the first thing I thought of,

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Speaker 1: And then I thought, what if each man, each of

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Speaker 2: Yes, no hate, campaign core, no campaign corps. I think

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that actually sounds really tasteful.

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Speaker 2: That's how you do that write What it is is

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Speaker 3: fun tacky wedding. What is like I've always found it

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Speaker 1: To Lynn, I'm so sorry you both find this gross. Like,

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Speaker 3: A wedding, I find it so like, like imagine like

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Speaker 2: I won't.

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Speaker 1: I think maybe you just find Hawaii.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, you're not. You're not imagining it.

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Speaker 3: You're not imagining a man yeah, who was probably white, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's something I think pretty and like

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Speaker 2: I mean, once you're on a beach, do you think

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Speaker 3: No, that's too dark.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm again speech weddings on printill, Yeah, which

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Speaker 2: I forget that. It's like have some respect and do

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Speaker 2: it in an evangelical church.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you want to get married on sand, fine,

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Speaker 1: But bring the sand into an evangelical church first.

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Speaker 3: Okay, now that I would like that fun. I love

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Speaker 3: there is a bar in Williamsburg where it's like there's

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Speaker 1: Actually be so ever, going to New York that's obscene,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I am like, where do you guys get it?

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Speaker 1: I mean you're right, thank you, and thank you for

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Speaker 2: Wait, can we talk about Linen for one second? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so what's the deal with Linen? Because it sort of

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Speaker 3: Come on, Jerry Zeinfeldt.

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Speaker 1: Got his what's the deal?

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Speaker 3: No, but I do have to agree what is the

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Speaker 2: I am especially like Linen. She I'm just sort of like.

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Speaker 3: Vin's the Linen's number one biggest fan in the studio today.

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Speaker 1: Love Linen as someone who at least ostensibly appears to

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Speaker 3: Don't and don't do that.

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Speaker 1: I love breathable, like fabrics and linen's nice because it

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Speaker 2: See. I actually, to me, it's not. Maybe I'm just

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Speaker 2: I need to go more upscale. But I often will

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and I would see a doctor. But

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Speaker 2: It's like, okay, if you're like you know, George Clooney,

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Speaker 2: you can pull off wrinkly linen. But I don't know.

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Speaker 2: If I'm like going out into the you know, let's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 3: I think linen is like it's like great in fantasy

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Like I love the idea, Like when it's like if

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Speaker 3: But if I'm wearing a linen shirt. I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: Could you imagine like ancient Egyptians saying that as they

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Speaker 3: It's not working, mother, they say that. Sorry. The way

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Speaker 3: the dumbest sentence ever.

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Speaker 2: Why are you? Are you intimated by Vinnie?

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Speaker 3: I'm intimidated? Okay, okay, ready, yeah go.

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Speaker 1: Also, like when people are like, uh huh, you have

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Speaker 3: Were like, and then there's like fresh linens in the closet.

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Speaker 2: But they're not made of linen. Is that your issue?

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Speaker 3: That's literally my issue? Okay, well yeah, like two words

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Speaker 1: I again, I think.

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Speaker 2: You want people to say, there's per col in the closet.

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Speaker 2: There's per cols in the closet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's there's clean cottons. There's some new polyesters

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Speaker 1: in my closet. If you need to, We've refilled the jersey.

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Speaker 1: N Oh my god, there would be it would be

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Speaker 3: How crazy would that be?

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Speaker 2: It would be crazy, that would be nuts.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad I said that sentence. I actually think

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Speaker 3: it was really you got through that, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know if you were going to make it there, buddy, No,

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Speaker 3: And I felt that too when I was just talking

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Speaker 2: Now. Wait, okay, so in terms of cheese, string cheese trending.

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Speaker 3: In terms of cheese, here's what Okay, can I have

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Speaker 3: a theory please? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it has to do with a tech backlash,

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Speaker 2: because for a while it was like snacks in tech opices,

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Speaker 2: we're sort of like artisanal chickpea based puffs, kombucha flavored

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Speaker 2: our youth. I think that's very true. We want our

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Speaker 3: We're done pretending. We're done pretending that the healthy stuff

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's like it's like the return to you know,

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I agree with most of what

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Speaker 2: I do think a Pixar backlash relatedly is coming to

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Speaker 2: drawings like the old Oh yeah yeah, bas.

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Speaker 1: There was something.

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Speaker 3: There's something so romantic about racist drawing.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, people are gonna people write this down. Racist

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Speaker 3: You're gonna say this racism really meant something to this artist.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah yeah?

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Speaker 3: And cheese sticks are that? And the string cheese is that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Hey is string cheese And I'm so sorry that we're

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Speaker 1: still string cheese always mozzarella, Like, is it mozzarella by necessity?

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Speaker 1: I don't think cheese.

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Speaker 2: I do think, yeah, I certainly think in terms of

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Speaker 2: I would not be surprised if there are artisanal flavors

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Speaker 2: on the market where you get like a pepper jack a.

440
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, wait baby bell love baby bell.

441
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well yeah, I mean yeah.

442
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,000
Speaker 1: When you take the little wax thing off the baby

443
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 1: bell and it's like it's like you're taking the red

444
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,719
Speaker 1: dress off the shoulder of a very pale woman and

445
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,199
Speaker 1: like it just like pops out. I think it's so

446
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 1: cunty to eat a baby bell.

447
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 2: You know what?

448
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 3: I have to be completely honest. I've never eaten a

449
00:20:58,600 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 3: baby bell.

450
00:20:59,119 --> 00:20:59,680
Speaker 2: What the hell?

451
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,359
Speaker 3: And you know, can I tell you why?

452
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

453
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 3: Because I was always like, is this butter or is

454
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:05,440
Speaker 3: this cheese?

455
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:08,719
Speaker 2: There's something about him.

456
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 3: I was like, this could There's like a ninety percent

457
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,679
Speaker 3: chances could be butter. And so yeah, I'm not going

458
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 3: to bite into it to find out. It has to

459
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 3: be the right kind of dairy product before I put

460
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 3: it in. Some dairy products we're supposed to eat, some

461
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 3: dairy products supposed to put on bread. And I also

462
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 3: just the societal shame I would feel if I, you know,

463
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 3: took a bite of a ball of butter and people

464
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 3: would I would never live it down.

465
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,719
Speaker 2: Well, there's nothing more humiliating than like eating something incorrectly.

466
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 2: I distinctly remember the first time I was offered at

467
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 2: ammee and I bit into it.

468
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:40,159
Speaker 3: Can I tell you?

469
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 2: Wait?

470
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 1: Wait, we all have stories.

471
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 2: We all have stories. Okay, you go first. Okay.

472
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,120
Speaker 3: I was eating dinner with our dear friend Patty Harrison

473
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 3: once and I got a shrimp thing and I was like,

474
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 3: like it looked all cooked or whatever, and I was like, oh,

475
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 3: so you just bite into it. I bit into it.

476
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 3: And she was like in the middle of speaking and

477
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 3: clearly the show was on, and I was just like

478
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 3: like really trying to like and I was like, I

479
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 3: think I wasn't supposed to do that. She's like, no,

480
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 3: you peel them, and I was like, fuck, I'm so

481
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 3: stupid and disgusting.

482
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 1: I was at this Italian x restaurant with a few

483
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Speaker 1: of my friends and we ordered a steamed artichoke for

484
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Speaker 1: the table for an appetizer.

485
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know where this is going, and you know.

486
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 3: Exactly where it's going.

487
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 1: Look that is, and where the two of us are

488
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: scraping the leaves like normal, and we're stacking them on

489
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Speaker 1: the plate, and then my other friend he looks over

490
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: at our plates and he goes, look at you guys

491
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: stacking your little leaves. And we look over his plate

492
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,640
Speaker 1: and there's nothing there. And we know he's eaten dozens

493
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: of them and there's nothing on his plate, and we're like,

494
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 1: where are your artichoke leaves? And he goes, I'm eating

495
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: them and he was eating the leaves whole and he

496
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,239
Speaker 1: kept mentioning. He was like, yeah, I've never had this.

497
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 1: It's really tasty, but there's a lot of chewing and

498
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 1: He kept saying that, but we didn't like register that

499
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: he was eating them, And I can't imagine how that

500
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 1: must have ended up. It must have been like shrapnel

501
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: coming out of him.

502
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 3: He was like super clean afterwards.

503
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: Maybe he was like, yeah, so ready to bottom. There

504
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: is no more.

505
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 3: Toxic class based gatekeeping than knowing which parts of the

506
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 3: food you're supposed to eat totally.

507
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 2: It's like if you grew up in like a country

508
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 2: club environment, going to debutante balls only, then can you

509
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 2: eat at some restaurants in this country.

510
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 3: Yeah that's true, that's absolutely true, But.

511
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: What can I say? Most people aren't rich like us.

512
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 1: It's true, so true.

513
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what though, they just have to

514
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 3: pull themselves up from their bootstraps. Yeah, but then you

515
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 3: know the opposite is true, you know, sort of imagine

516
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 3: the Titanic and Kate Winslet goes down to the lower

517
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 3: decks and is maybe handed chicken wings and she's like,

518
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,199
Speaker 3: how do you even eat this?

519
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: Get a fork and a knife. You've seen those videos

520
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: of that guy and he's like, this is how the

521
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 1: Queen would eat a banana. He puts a bit in

522
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: front of him and he like bisects it. With the

523
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: knife and like peels it open, and it's the dumbest

524
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: thing I've seen in my life. And she does that

525
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: all the time. Thank God she's dead.

526
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 2: Rest and Power. Do you remember when the Women's March

527
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 2: tweeted rest and Power Barbara Bush? No, it was a

528
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: really like iconic moment.

529
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out to that moment.

530
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, that moment.

531
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 1: I love asking the room if they remember something and

532
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 1: everyone says no, and you go, it was really I

533
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: got it. It was actually iconic, and that's probably why

534
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: you guys don't remember. You guys, it was super iiconic.

535
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 3: That's tough to have to explain something is really complicated,

536
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 3: especially when you're trying to say it's important. Oh that hurts, sorry,

537
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 3: so you're judging me.

538
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 2: It was.

539
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: I think you're so funny to try to explain something

540
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: it's complicated. That's a good point. That's a poetic statement.

541
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: I mean it was poetic and it was beautiful, but

542
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: it also felt like a PSA before he was going

543
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: to tell me not to do drugs or something like church. Sure, sure, yeah, yeah.

544
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 1: I think I'm imagining more of a lore and a

545
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 1: context to what both of you are saying than what

546
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: actually exists.

547
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 3: Oh, so you're you're doing a positive breed of us.

548
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're assuming we are deeper thinkers than we are,

549
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: or maybe exactly, or maybe we're such deep thinkers and

550
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 2: we think so highly of our listeners that we don't

551
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 2: have to go below the surface. We sort of like

552
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 2: understand that everyone has the groundwork to understand.

553
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: Absolutely they get it. I think they get it, and

554
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: I'm so grateful to be here on the Mentslaw Podcast.

555
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 2: Speaking of intellect. Should we do our first segment?

556
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 3: I think we should.

557
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 2: Our first segment is called straight Shooters.

558
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 3: And in this segment, we gauge your familiarity with in

559
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 3: complicity and straight culture by asking you a series of

560
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 3: rapid fire questions. It's basically this thing or this other thing.

561
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 3: The only rule is you can't ask any follow up

562
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 3: questions or we'll scream at you and make you wish

563
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 3: you were never born. Okay, too late, too late, quaye, George,

564
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 3: will you kick us off?

565
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 2: I would be honored, Vinnie, Yes, both steam Ahead or

566
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 2: Dave's Killer bread M?

567
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,719
Speaker 1: Which is straight? Oh?

568
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: That that's a question question to me?

569
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, no, no, no, maybe I just need a clarification.

570
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 2: Being deducted as we see.

571
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 1: No, no, no, please don't deduct them. I need them

572
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: for my family. Okay, the first one is straight.

573
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 2: Wow, please keep going.

574
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 3: Okay, Vinny, it's not Dave's I hate Melissa Joan Hart

575
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 3: or little miss Joan of Arc.

576
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 2: Jonah Arc. Okay, withholding evidence or missing the reference?

577
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 3: Mmmm, missing the reference? Come through ballroom voice, dressing for

578
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 3: success or caressing your own.

579
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: X oh, dressing for success.

580
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 2: Okay, taking off for flag day or getting off a

581
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: fag who's gay?

582
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: Oh, taking off for a flag day?

583
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 3: Okay, jimmappel sam or Oh well damn oh well, damn.

584
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 2: Wow, that was one of your best steps. That was

585
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 2: really good. All right, Vinnie Oh, there's more an autobiographical

586
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 2: novel that's derivative, an autocratic government that's punitive, or an

587
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 2: autoerotic asphyxiation that's indicative of a broader mental health struggle.

588
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: I don't accept that any of those things rhyme.

589
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 1: And I will say a broader mental health that's indicative

590
00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: of and uh yes, and autorotic and such as.

591
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 3: Okay, Malibu Barbie or wanting to party, Oh.

592
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: The same, they're the same. True. Wow, Okay, I will

593
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: say I completely I was somewhere else. For when Sam

594
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: was reading the rules and so ultimately I.

595
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 2: Was just pairing, parting, I would say, you know, we

596
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 2: rank each guest performance on a scale of zero to

597
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 2: one thousand doves. Of course, the second you asked question,

598
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: it was tough, It was looking tough for you. There

599
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 2: was it bad. I actually think that the fact that

600
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: at the end you unexpectedly did a tie added a

601
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: sense of whimsy and a sense of drama that I

602
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: think both of us wanted to see from you.

603
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: Thank God.

604
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, so George, what would you say his score is?

605
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: I would say it's in the low eight hundreds, like

606
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: eight twenty one.

607
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 3: That's that's really good.

608
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

609
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a lot of dead doves.

610
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: That's still almost two hundred dead doves.

611
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, will be you will be hearing from Peta.

612
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: I yeah.

613
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 3: You know you know how I like Borat a beloved

614
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: American character sort of they're still out He's still out

615
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: there making people feel uncomfortable, and you're.

616
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 2: I love living he lives in character.

617
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 3: I love talking about him like he's the Zodiac killer.

618
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 4: Ye, Like he's still out in the look he's on

619
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 4: the loop. Yeah, he's out there. Bora's still out hurting

620
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 4: those one's out there and the police have never been

621
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 4: able to track her.

622
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: You remember when he sent those letters to the cops, like

623
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: toying with them.

624
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: The movies are just like when he's caught, Yeah, you'll.

625
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: Never find your daughter wa wa And it's like in

626
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: cutout magazine letters.

627
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: So you know, Borad's still out there at large.

628
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 3: But I'm always impressed that you can find people that

629
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: that don't know who Borad is because he's such a

630
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 3: beloved character. Oh really, like he'll be like if he's

631
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 3: doing pranks on people, You're like, Wow, they found the

632
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 3: two hundred people that don't know my wife, Like that's

633
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 3: really I'm shocking. Wait, he's still he's not still doing

634
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: prank some people.

635
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 2: He's still a borat too. He certainly was.

636
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 3: And I hear there's a boor at three. Oh no,

637
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 3: I have heard.

638
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: Where would he go? Literally?

639
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 3: Where would he go?

640
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: I would I would look at the demographics of people,

641
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: and if I was planning this fellas, I would look

642
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: at the demographics of places, and I would go places

643
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: where I know skew older, because I think they would

644
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: be less likely to know. So I would go to

645
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: like I don't know Boca. I would go to like

646
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: a retirement village in Boca, because I don't think they'd

647
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: know who bor It is.

648
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 3: Terrorize the retirees.

649
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'd give him heart attacks. They'd have to

650
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: take a break from fucking each other and answer my

651
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: little Borat questions.

652
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 3: Answer my Borat questions.

653
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: Three. They're always fucking each other.

654
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: Okay, I wonder Sasha Baron Cohne was in character as

655
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: Borat when he commented on Amy Schumer's Instagram that she

656
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: cares more deeply about social justice than anyone he knows.

657
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: Oh God, we can't get into it.

658
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 3: Thank you for hissing. Someone had to hiss.

659
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: Well, I was just gonna say that, Vinnie.

660
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: It's a treat when someone's on the podcast and actually

661
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 3: does ask questions, because you know, most people who come

662
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 3: on the podcast maybe listened to it ahead of time,

663
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 3: maybe just to hear one episode perhaps, And so I

664
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 3: really find it nice when someone comes on completely blind.

665
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 3: I feel like that must put it. That must be

666
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 3: what it feels like when Borat goes to Boca.

667
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: I feel like, Wow, you really landed the plan on

668
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: that one. Also, you guys are in a fight.

669
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: No, we're going to fight. Well, we're not in a fight.

670
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 3: We're actually really good friends. Since the first two times

671
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 3: that Vinnie came on after midnight and we did not speak, Yeah,

672
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 3: which I was whose turn was it to speak? I

673
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 3: think we were both like trying to be polite.

674
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,479
Speaker 1: I think because I was the guest, the onus was

675
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: probably on me because I was walking into an environment

676
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: in which was yours. Just like when you visit someone's house,

677
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: you should say hi to the person whose house it is.

678
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 2: But isn't it the person's job to be the host

679
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 2: and make you feel welcome.

680
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be magnanimous one of your definant qualities.

681
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 3: Well, no, I was sort of like I was sort

682
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 3: of like, oh, is that like, am I assuming he

683
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 3: knows who I am? Because he doesn't know who I am?

684
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 3: Oh I do. So that was where I was sort

685
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 3: of like, we've never met and we don't have and

686
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 3: so I was like, well, I'm not going to be

687
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 3: like hey.

688
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:28,959
Speaker 2: I was like, would have gone up to him and

689
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: diva gone up someone said obviously you know who I am.

690
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 2: What's your name?

691
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: Oh that's good.

692
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 3: It would have been nice.

693
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's usually what I do just to random people.

694
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: On the street. If I want to meet people and you.

695
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: Put your hand out and you say, wow, it seems

696
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: like I'm already at a disadvantage.

697
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: That's right. And I'm actually and I'm dressed in boat

698
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: and I'm in Boca and I'm doing I'm dressed in

699
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: full borat face.

700
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 3: Wait, I have to I okay, when I didn't speak

701
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 3: to you, were you like, what's his problem?

702
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: I think I saw you okay, you oh okay, Well,

703
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: I think because you were working with another person, like

704
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: you had cloistered somewhere else. They normally pair Sam with

705
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: a woman, and so Sam was somewhere else, usually in

706
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: a different room, working with someone. And then when Sam

707
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: was finished, he would he would go back to I

708
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: don't know where you guys have like an office or something.

709
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: Totally. Yeah. The president of CBS is always like, put

710
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: him with a woman. They'll have a will and grace.

711
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: Vibe them always do and you always do.

712
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 3: Should we Well, I'm glad.

713
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: I was what no, no, keep going well, I was,

714
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: I was gonna move us along, but I was I

715
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: was gonna say one thing that it was funny.

716
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 3: I actually it was so funny because the second time

717
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 3: you came on, we like didn't speak again, and then

718
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 3: saw each other at bar one hour later, and in

719
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 3: a way that was like Okay, now we can be

720
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 3: normal towards each other.

721
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very much like we we were almost

722
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: wanted to mind our p's and ques at work, like

723
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: we wanted to maintain professionalism.

724
00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 3: It was like it would be an HR violation of

725
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 3: two gigs I spoke to each other.

726
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm more than an HR of violation. I think

727
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: it would cause some sort of singularity.

728
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 2: I think there at some point there's gonna be a reckoning,

729
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: And I don't know how fairly or unfairly it's going

730
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: to be handled by the media, nor do I know

731
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: what my personal opinion on it is. At some point

732
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 2: there's going to be a reckoning about gay guys behavior

733
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: in semi professional environments. Yeah, because I think they what home,

734
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 2: might not know what is going on.

735
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: They tiptoe up to the line, and I say, because

736
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: I've got one of them.

737
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, gay guys is sort of the France in the

738
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: Me Too movement that they try they're trying to make

739
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 2: it stick there and they're like no.

740
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: They'll just walk up and then be like, boobs are

741
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: looking pretty professional today, Queen.

742
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 3: What it is confusing though? Yeah, because it's like like

743
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 3: we need a different set of HR rules. No, it's true,

744
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 3: there needs to be a gay guy H regulation regulations

745
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 3: because it's sort of like like someone's like, well, you know,

746
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 3: you can't look at porn and I'm like, right, but

747
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 3: what about the sex app on my telephone? And what

748
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 3: if it's funny?

749
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? Sex app on my

750
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: phone where I'm getting notifications near constantly, Yeah, sitting next

751
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 2: to my boss.

752
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: What if I'm at work but someone sends me a

753
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: video of a guy fucking in Alvira plant?

754
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 2: Right, Well, what am I supposed to do?

755
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: That?

756
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 3: But what am I supposed to do? I'm just supposed

757
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 3: to not want to report it? Yeah? Who am I

758
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 3: gonna call about that?

759
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: You know?

760
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very complicated, much like many of the things

761
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 3: we brought up so far.

762
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, for example, cheese.

763
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 2: It's definitely the string cheese of HR debacles.

764
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 3: Well, we covered that.

765
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: Should we get into our topic?

766
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 3: I think we should. I think that's a really good idea. Vinny.

767
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 3: What topic did you bring for us today?

768
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: Oh, there's gonna be a transition. What the topic I

769
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: brought was.

770
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 3: What transition would you like?

771
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. You guys put like jungle sounds? Yeah,

772
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: Well do what I'm saying. Okay, okay, thank you. You

773
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: want jungle sound, it seems like you're not gonna do it. No, okay, gotcha.

774
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 1: My topic is jun jungle sounds. Reptiles wow?

775
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 3: Wow?

776
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and tell us a little bit in your own words,

777
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: not plagiarizing anyone else.

778
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 3: Of course, I'm not using chat GPT. Using chat GPT.

779
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 3: Why you think reptiles are straight?

780
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 1: I will say. When I walked in here, I wasn't convinced.

781
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: I wasn't convinced that reptiles are a straight topic. But

782
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:42,479
Speaker 1: then Sam told me that it was, and I think

783
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: ultimately that's what moved the needle for me.

784
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 3: He brought up the fact that, like.

785
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: Okay, the ultimately count is two folks for anyone keeping

786
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 2: track at home.

787
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: That's how I talk, sir. It's not a trend. It's

788
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: not I'm not I'm not one of your little kiddos

789
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: who's using that word in a way you don't like

790
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm using it normally.

791
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 3: I gotta say, I actually am loving the slight combativeness

792
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 3: of this episode.

793
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: I do too. I actually, miss, I must to do

794
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: this all the time with our guests.

795
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: And I don't stop. It's too nice.

796
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 3: Well we have gotten too nice. But I do feel

797
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 3: an instant familiarity with you where I'm like, oh we

798
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 3: can agree, yeah, in a way that is fun.

799
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: Can I tell you what I'm feeling. What I'm feeling, Vinny,

800
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 2: is like, feel such an instant connection with you, and

801
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 2: yet because we are so far away, because I can

802
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 2: only see you through a screen, there's almost this like

803
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 2: paradoxical feeling of then because of that feeling, as farther

804
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: and farther away from you, I would almost if I

805
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: didn't feel an instant connection with you, I could just

806
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 2: be like, Okay, this is a business call, be professional.

807
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: But because I feel because I feel both an intimate connection,

808
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: it's dialectical because I feel both an intimate connection, and.

809
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 3: So you can say dialectical, but I can't say ultimately.

810
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 2: Three times you know, I think I think dialectical is

811
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: then you ultimately, And I would encourage yes of dialectical

812
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,479
Speaker 2: and others.

813
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 3: If you want to seem up to date and current,

814
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 3: you better better start using dialectical if you want to

815
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 3: if you want to be seen if you want to

816
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 3: get fucked, you better start using dialectical.

817
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 2: I actually would take a one step further. And here's

818
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: my suggestion. If you are the new word for verse

819
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 2: is dialectical. I love that you are verse. You are

820
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: Now you have to identify as dialectical.

821
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: Wait, what is the version of that for like dichotomy

822
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 1: are dichometric, dichotomus.

823
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 2: Dichotomis dichotomist? I think makes sense.

824
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not. It's not as sexy as dialectical.

825
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 3: I was saying, I'm verse.

826
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: It's like I'm dichotomous, you know what I mean, Like

827
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: it's the contracts that I'm attracted to. Sure, yeah, I

828
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: don't like that, you don't, Okay, that's fine.

829
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, dialectical is really good though.

830
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: Okay slur, Sorry, what did you I'm always on the

831
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: cusp of saying that constantly.

832
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 3: It has to stop reptiles.

833
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 2: Uh.

834
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: Sam pointed out that like reptiles when for a lot

835
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: of like little boys, dinosaurs are very big thing that's

836
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: centered upon and yeah, it's like I feel like the

837
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: boy version of Sometimes it feels like the boy version

838
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: of dolls and barbies. I was a dinosaur kid. I'm

839
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 1: also currently a dinosaur adult. I can name and describe

840
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: more dinosaurs than I think is comfortable for anyone in

841
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: this room. But I also think that because the bimbo

842
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: esthetic is so pervasive in the gay community and it

843
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: is okay Sam, sometimes we lean away from things that

844
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: might appear to be like the might we think might

845
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: bore or noy other gay guys. So I don't Typically

846
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: when I hang out with my gay friends, I don't

847
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: talk about lizards and snakes a lot. But when I

848
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: hang out with other groups of people, Yeah, the lizards

849
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: and snakes, conversation kind of just pours out all the time.

850
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 2: So you code switch.

851
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: No, I'm always me No, No I do.

852
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: I could switch constantly.

853
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 2: A specific form of code switching is simply that you

854
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 2: talk more about lizards great people than with gay people.

855
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: It's something I haven't seen represented in media.

856
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 3: No I represented at all. Do you feel closeted when

857
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 3: you hang out with your gay friends because they you know,

858
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 3: they won't accept your reptilian side? Oh?

859
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: In so many ways, And it's such as reptiles, it's

860
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: drug used too, It's a million things, like you don't

861
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: use drugs. Yeah, I feel like one of my friends

862
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: he really wants me to try doing Molly, something I've

863
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: never done, and I'm of the belief but whatever drug

864
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: I try, I always not that I've only done one drug.

865
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: I've only done Reefer.

866
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 3: I've only done weed edivals.

867
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: Because I just saw the musical Reefer Madness and that

868
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: just stuck in my head.

869
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 2: Is now we need to bring back Reefer. Reefer is

870
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 2: the string cheese of the string cheese. It's dialectical. Yeah, period.

871
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 1: Anyway, why am I talking about Molly now?

872
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 2: Anyway?

873
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: It wants me to do, but I'm like, I have

874
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 1: to do it at home alone first, so I see

875
00:40:59,400 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: what it's like.

876
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 3: You know, the entire point interestingly, No, yeah, yeah, not

877
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 3: to be on your friend's side and be forcing you

878
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 3: to do drugs. But I do think he's right and

879
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 3: you should respect him.

880
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: Can I actually think, Vinny, is there's something that you're

881
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: talking about that is so specific and I've never like

882
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: heard it express before. And let me know if this resonates.

883
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 2: I almost feel like nerd culture in straight communities to me,

884
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: is more relatable than nerd culture and gay communities. Yes,

885
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 2: I find just like the sort of baseline straight guys

886
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,479
Speaker 2: liking Star Wars straight guys liking you know, on board

887
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 2: games whatever like. I find that more relatable and more

888
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: something I can access than like, let's say, the identity

889
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: of gay merg gay or like gay guys that are

890
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 2: like obsessed with comic books in a particular LGBT way.

891
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: I think for some reason, it's just the nerds aesthetic,

892
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to straight guys, has become cool,

893
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: like those are the I think that's the new cool guys,

894
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: you know, or at least for millennials, like Funko, Pop

895
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: King or whatever. But and now, thank god, we're drifting

896
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 1: away from that, and the backlash is coming. The backlashes coming.

897
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: It's dialectical.

898
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 3: So it's dialectical.

899
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: But for gay guys, I don't think there's an established

900
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: kind of cool nerd culture. There's gamer, which feels to

901
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: me more like an identity like bear or twink, which

902
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: is strange to me. But I think part of that's

903
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: because it's it's still tied to your sexuality and it's

904
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 1: not necessarily like this fandom that you're in. And then

905
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: there is a big culture of I think among people

906
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: who I would qualify as tender queers, a little bit

907
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: of like love for anime and stuff like that.

908
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 2: And also sort of action figures memorabilia, Like the more

909
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: gay guys than people think have an entire like shelf

910
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: that is dedicated to action figures in memorabilia.

911
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and whereas I I have fossils, I have like

912
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: a little pile of fossils not working fireplace.

913
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 2: I actually think there should be a movement towards that.

914
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 2: I would I would be much more interested in that

915
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: kind of gay coded nerdiness if it was fossil and

916
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 2: dinosaur based.

917
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well yeah, I think that's way more fun to be.

918
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 3: Like I'm an archaeologist.

919
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: Alienologistlog, well, archaeologists could study fossils, but they would have

920
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: to be human fossils. Fuck, don't crime.

921
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 2: Anyway.

922
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 3: Like I was saying, the bimbo asthetic is really pervasive

923
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 3: in the gay community.

924
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, I have sorry to derail. When first started

925
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: talking about dinosaurs and I was like thinking, okay, how

926
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: are dinosaurs straight? I could think of two things. First

927
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 2: of all, you know, they're so old, and so it

928
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: has you know, it's like a traditionalist like toxic nostalgia.

929
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 3: Like dinosaurs are from the fifties.

930
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, like man were men and dinosaurs were dinosaurs, you know,

931
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 2: you know, they're sort of madman. And then of course dinosaurs.

932
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 2: I understand that there are definitely like more girly and

933
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 2: more gay dinosaurs, but in general t Rex is like

934
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 2: very male coded. It's like, you know, I think its

935
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 2: tail around, it's.

936
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 3: Like looking at like a garbage struck and being like cool, yes, exactly.

937
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: And also the sheer I think a big part of

938
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: it is a sheer size, this obsussion with like do

939
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 2: you they were so giant and so big, like a

940
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: big skyscraper like Trump Tower.

941
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: Well, I think it conjured like Trump Tower. I think

942
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: it conjures something the same thing that maybe like Civil

943
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: War and reenactments conjured, you know, where it's like kind

944
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: of a yearning for history and you have to kind

945
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 1: of really want to imagine the past. And maybe that's

946
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: part of it. Maybe gay people don't like to reflect

947
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: on the past.

948
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: And they don't they like to be that's triented.

949
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

950
00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think as scientists have learned more about dinosaurs,

951
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: they've become more gay. But I still don't think dinosaurs,

952
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: even in the dinosaur like animated documentaries and stuff, they

953
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: haven't had that big moment that like gay people on

954
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: Twitter latch onto and they go viral.

955
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 3: For yeah, and not to bring it back to archaeology

956
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 3: versus pailiontology. Okay, yeah, I do think when when they find,

957
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 3: you know, some frozen woman from one million years ago,

958
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 3: they are all like that gay people really do cling

959
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 3: to like that is a diva.

960
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: Whenever they find an ink and mummy, that's like and

961
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: it's absolutely right about it. Like the ink and mummies

962
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: their hair is like braided and preserved and they've just

963
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: like lived on top of a mountain frozen. And then

964
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: like every time I see a post, it's like a

965
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: million people going fascinating, fascinating, fascinating, and the one gig

966
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 1: guy going work, bitch.

967
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: It's like it's one gig. I mean, like, do I leave?

968
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: Why is her skin so good? Still?

969
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 2: Oh my god?

970
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 3: One million? She actually looks.

971
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,479
Speaker 2: Ca routine. Okay, I think, what Thenny, what you're saying

972
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 2: about the more sciences discover about them, the more gay

973
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 2: they seem is so important because it reminds me of how,

974
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 2: you know, people think that ancient Greek statues were all

975
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 2: white and marble, but in fact we're all painted crazy

976
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 2: colors and they you know, ancient Greeks sort of like

977
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 2: aesthetics are such a denote such a like traditional Western

978
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: masculine vibe, when in fact they were like super campy

979
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 2: and kind of John Waters esque. I think similarly Fort

980
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: Lauderdale sort of Apple TV plus is pomroy Ao comes

981
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: to mind. Yeah, yeah, so similarly with dinosaurs. You know,

982
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: you think they're these like crocodilian reptilian creatures, but in

983
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 2: fact they were covered in feathers. They sort of Also,

984
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 2: you know, it's funny that a t rex is such

985
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 2: a masculine symbol because it literally has gay arms.

986
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah, like there's and honestly, most therapods

987
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: when and you guys can't see this, so you'll just

988
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: have to listen and imagine. But they their hands were

989
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: held like this, like facing back turned down. A lot

990
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: of people think they're like this, but it's very much

991
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: like that, like you know, one of those limps, a

992
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: gay guy.

993
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: At the end of the night walking home and barely

994
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 2: being able to like and clutching a pocket book. Yeah,

995
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: a pocket book I do have.

996
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 3: I do cling to the t rex's masculinity sometimes, like

997
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 3: I I I even need to remember to believe that

998
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 3: the t rex is like a big bad monster, because

999
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 3: when like every couple of years still be like, actually,

1000
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 3: no one knows this t rex is only eight rice

1001
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 3: or something like, they love to be like, actually, like

1002
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 3: it wasn't a hunter, it was a dancer, and you're

1003
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 3: always like, oh yeah, and I'm like I'm just gonna

1004
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 3: forget that piece of information.

1005
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: And like to hold with them, you have to hold

1006
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: on to some national mythologies. Otherwise it's like the ground

1007
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: will fall off from under us and will fall into

1008
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 2: the pity.

1009
00:47:58,600 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: It would be terrifying.

1010
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, I think.

1011
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it always helps to remember that therapod dinosaurs are

1012
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: so closely related to birds. They basically say so like

1013
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: every stupid thing you see a bird doing, and birds

1014
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: are so dumb and gay. They're so funny to me.

1015
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: It's like the females have dictated to so many of

1016
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: the males that they must behave idiotically in order to

1017
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: be attractive, and so you end up having like a

1018
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: sage grouse where the male inflates two giant sacks on

1019
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: his chest so he basically looks like he has huge tits,

1020
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: and then he just like bounces them up and down

1021
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: in the middle of the prairie, which is to me

1022
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: so gay. And dinosaurs must have done that because they

1023
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: were around so much longer before birds showed up.

1024
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: So you're you're you're a reptile guy. Yeah, you're a

1025
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 2: dinosaur guy. You're also a bird guy.

1026
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: I would say, and controversial take. I think they're all reptiles.

1027
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: Birds are birds are reptiles.

1028
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 2: Birds are your first birds are dinosaurs.

1029
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: Some people birds are reptiles are absolutely dinosaur Wait hold on,

1030
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: let me break this down for you guys. I talk

1031
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: about reptiles on every podcast. Jesus Christ, I need a

1032
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: new interest. Birds are in the clad arcosauria, and the

1033
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: arcosaurs are dinosaurs, crocodiles, birds, and pterosaurs.

1034
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 2: Just for our listeners, can you call it the house?

1035
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, the house of arcosauria. Boots, They're in the house

1036
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: of arcosauria. And so birds are more closely related to

1037
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: crocodiles than crocodiles are to lizards and snakes. Birds are

1038
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: more closely related to crocodiles than crocodiles to lizards and sneaks,

1039
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: which is kind of a hard thing to imagine, but

1040
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: it makes sense when you think about the fact that

1041
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: Crocodiles are very old, evolved alongside dinosaurs, and so did birds.

1042
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 1: Birds were alive with dinosaurs, and birds are dinosaurs. They're

1043
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: the direct descendants of theropod dinosaurs, which means birds are

1044
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: a very distinct group of reptiles. They're warm blooded reptiles,

1045
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: but reptiles nonetheless, because archosaurs are reptiles. You can also

1046
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: see it. They've got scales on their feet, feathers are

1047
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 1: kind of converted scale. You look at their eyes, they've

1048
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: got that weird little pin eye that looks a lot

1049
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: like a monitor lizard's eye. And I can talk about

1050
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 1: this forever.

1051
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 2: So here's a follow up question. Yeah, okay, we have birds,

1052
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 2: we have traditional reptiles, by which I mean crocodiles and alligators.

1053
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 2: Let's say, and then we have the lizards, lizards, and snakes.

1054
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 2: Squad those three rank them, you know, straight from gata straight.

1055
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 3: Ring them gata straight.

1056
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, I would say, and I'm ranking crocodiles,

1057
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: birds and.

1058
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 2: Lizards and lizards essentially.

1059
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I would say crocodiles are Crocodiles are the

1060
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: least gay.

1061
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 2: I agree.

1062
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: I think they're really kind of salt of the earth. Traditionalists.

1063
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: They don't change much.

1064
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 2: They chang Florida.

1065
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Florida for example, Florida for example, just during the

1066
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: saund And then and then I would say and then

1067
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: I would say lizards and snakes squamata because like we

1068
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: were talking about before, snakes, skinny queens, skinny bitch only

1069
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: eats once in a while.

1070
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 3: You know, they don't need the winter. They done a

1071
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 3: lot of them don't winters. Yeah, yeah, I love this.

1072
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: Let's let's give as many listens as possible eating disorders.

1073
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 3: Snakes.

1074
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 2: The snakes are kind of the original queens of bulking

1075
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 2: and cutting.

1076
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, yeah, and they always look amazing.

1077
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 2: It always looks snatched.

1078
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: And then there's also that the basilisk lizard, which runs

1079
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: across the surface of the water, which I think is

1080
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: if not gay, then certainly a sexual.

1081
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 3: Yes.

1082
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: And then and then I would say birds.

1083
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 2: I think birds are I think birds? You know, you

1084
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 2: have to say birds, it's obvious, but you know, of course, feathers,

1085
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 2: the colors, the flying, you know. Yeah, except for I mean,

1086
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 2: I guess there are like eagles.

1087
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: Sure I would still I would still call eagles gay.

1088
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 2: Gayer than crocodiles.

1089
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: Do you think eagles are gay. There are some birds

1090
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: that are straight. I think, like I think ducks are straight.

1091
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: I think all ducks across the border straight birds.

1092
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 3: What bird are you? Okay, I think you were asking.

1093
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say if I was a bird, I

1094
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: would be oh my god, probably a hummingbird. I just yeah,

1095
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: they move around so quick, and they just take like

1096
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: a little bite of every It's because when I go

1097
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: to a buffet, I just want a little bit of everything.

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00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 3: You know, a little bite of each. Yeah, well, I said,

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00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 3: I asked that amazing groundbreaking question because I was like, wait,

1100
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 3: I'm a duck. I could see it. I'm completely a

1101
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 3: duck in every way.

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00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 1: Huh hell yeah, yeah, George.

1103
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 2: Like maybe a pelican?

1104
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 3: Interesting?

1105
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: Absolutely an owl?

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00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 2: You're to me think I'm an owl?

1107
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're so your owl coded.

1108
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: You know. Owls are interesting because they've been so appropriated

1109
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 2: by like, you know, sort of pinterest aesthetics, even though

1110
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 2: they are such a famously wise and mysterious animal and

1111
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 2: kind of a weird looking animal.

1112
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: Like it's oh yeah, super weird, but they've.

1113
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: Become the symbol of like basic you know, like sort

1114
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 2: of like the illustration and a wedding invite.

1115
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: I mean that's I think evolution is so crazy to me,

1116
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: because how do we have a bird of prey that

1117
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 1: is proportioned like a baby, you know what I mean,

1118
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: Like it's got giant forward facing eyes and like a

1119
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 1: giant head and it's just corny looking. But they're crazy

1120
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: without feathers. If you ever get a chance to like

1121
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: google owl without feathers illustration, I.

1122
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 3: Think that would be an HR violation naked owl googling

1123
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 3: naked owls at work. So you're a snake owner, I am, yeah,

1124
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 3: Oh I didn't even know. My question is what is

1125
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 3: the response for romantic partners to find out your make owner.

1126
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 1: I think my strategy normally is to not bring it

1127
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: up until the second date, until they know that I'm

1128
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 1: so fun to be around. And then if I bring

1129
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 1: it up at all, Like if I hook up with someone,

1130
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: then they'll just come over and they'll see the terrarium,

1131
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: and if she's not out, then I don't have to

1132
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: worry about it. I'll say that's where I keep my succulence.

1133
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: And then and then if she comes out later, I'm like, oh,

1134
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: what the fuck.

1135
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 2: Is crazy?

1136
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: You're like, that's not supposed to be there. I think

1137
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: most people are fine with it. I think you got

1138
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: to kind of let people know up top, just because

1139
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to be look single man

1140
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: in a spotlessly clean apartment with a snake that raises

1141
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: some red flags.

1142
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 3: No, no, that's scary for sure.

1143
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: But I think the more you the more you learn

1144
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: about them, the more you realize that it's actually just

1145
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: a response to laziness to own a snake because they're

1146
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 1: so easy to take care of. Of course it's crazy.

1147
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 3: Is there an emotional connection?

1148
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: No, absolutely not. You look at her and there's nothing

1149
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: looking back. Yeah, with a snake and with my wife,

1150
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're oh dead eyes on both of them.

1151
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: Huh Yeah.

1152
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 3: So the appeal is like to have something cool to

1153
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 3: look at.

1154
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: I think most of the appeal with people who keep

1155
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 1: reptiles is first you have like a fixation, like it's

1156
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: just they are animals you like to look at and

1157
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: you're interested in. But also with the keeping of a terrarium,

1158
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: like you like to put together a naturalistic looking it

1159
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 1: almost looks like you could have picked it up off

1160
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: the forest floor wherever the animal is from, and like

1161
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 1: plopped it down on a little glass thing and hers

1162
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: is pretty plain, but some people get really like artsy

1163
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: with it, like some people create little mountains, especially fish keepers.

1164
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: Fish keepers are very good at this. They'll like do

1165
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: aquascapes with like little sea grasses and that I don't

1166
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: have the patients for. I do have the patients for

1167
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: an animal that barely eats.

1168
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's real. I think binary between animals as companions

1169
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 2: and animals as decore, and I think people have mixed

1170
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 2: feelings about because animals as decore, I'm counting snakes, turtles, fish,

1171
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 2: of course. Yeah. And then of course there are certain

1172
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 2: ones that are like interrogating that binary. Rabbits, birds, birds, Well, yeah, yeah,

1173
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 2: I get would you let out a bird?

1174
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 3: People do let out the.

1175
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: People do a lot of people flight Wait do you

1176
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: follow the same people on Instagram who like flight train

1177
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: their parrots?

1178
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 2: No?

1179
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:29,919
Speaker 3: Okay, wait, there are.

1180
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: These people who like they've trained their parents to like

1181
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: to fly back, so they're free flighted parents, and they'll

1182
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 1: like bring them out to Griffith Park and they'll be

1183
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: like yeah, and the parents will fly out and like

1184
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: do big circles and then come back and land on

1185
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 1: their arm, like that's beautiful. And then you see someone

1186
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: else on Instagram. They have like a cockatoo and they're

1187
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: smoking a cigarette and like the thing is pulling its

1188
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: feathers out, and I'm like, anyone can have a bird.

1189
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: I guess it truly, you know, yeah, you.

1190
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 2: Know a bird. When people have birds, I get scared.

1191
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: I get scared because a bird is like a two

1192
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,720
Speaker 1: year old kid. And then they get this weird. Birds

1193
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: are so codependent, like if you leave them, they will

1194
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 1: as They're like, I'm gonna hurt myself if you leave

1195
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,439
Speaker 1: a bird for five seconds. The bird is like and

1196
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: I guess I'm just gonna die. I guess yeah, I

1197
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: guess I kill myself because their their relationship they established

1198
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: with their owners is so like pair based. Oh it's

1199
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: not like a dog.

1200
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so all right, So yeah, birds really are

1201
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 2: in the middle of decor and companion.

1202
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 3: I would say, so yeah, yeah, animals as decor, huh.

1203
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 3: I think to me, it's such an essential straight image

1204
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 3: to be like going over to someone's house and there's

1205
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 3: a terrarium with a snake in it, Like that is

1206
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 3: like like to me, that raises so many fears where

1207
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I'm dealing with like a really specific

1208
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 3: type of straight person.

1209
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: I think it does. It conjures an image of a

1210
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: very specific straight guy who has like gauges and listens

1211
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: to a certain kind of music and he has a snake.

1212
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: But it's only because he wants to have a snake,

1213
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: he like wants to say as a snake, yeah, and

1214
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: not because like he's fascinated by snakes, just because it's

1215
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: kind of badass to have a snake. Yeah.

1216
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1217
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: Like I had a cousin who had a scorpion growing up,

1218
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: and he couldn't tell you the first fucking thing about

1219
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: a scorpion. He couldn't tell you if it was an

1220
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: a racknid or a.

1221
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 3: Dog, you know what I mean. But he had one.

1222
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 2: Should you have a scorpion?

1223
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can have a scorpion. Scorpion's easy to take

1224
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: care of. Well, he's here than a snake in some ways.

1225
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: Get a scorpion. Treat yourself. You don't want a scorpion,

1226
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: do it?

1227
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 3: You are kind of opening my eyes to the amount

1228
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 3: of living things one can own.

1229
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I think it's it's it's al those higer

1230
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: king I just have a small snake.

1231
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 2: It makes me feel almost like, uh, cowardly for only

1232
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 2: having plants. It's like there's not even any danger there.

1233
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 2: Like I need to start building out my indoor jungle

1234
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 2: with some other with some other rainforest creek.

1235
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,439
Speaker 3: Can you imagine if owning a snake became the new

1236
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 3: instagirly thing, I mean, and it was like.

1237
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: Oh, there'd be so many dead snakes.

1238
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's like very likely to happen.

1239
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 2: Well, everyone, it's a girl being like, so I didn't

1240
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 2: call my snake, and here's what happened.

1241
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: I feel like every week she would get a new

1242
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: corn snake that looked almost exactly like the first, because

1243
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: what you know, no one's going to notice if the

1244
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: snake dies. I think it's a sad thing about reptiles,

1245
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: and like the reptile pet trade is that so many

1246
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: of them are stolen from the wild. There's that thing,

1247
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: And then on the other thing, it's like I'm so

1248
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: sorry for taking this hard pivot.

1249
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 2: No, this.

1250
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: As so many turtles and things die in the care

1251
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: of people, and they're no like statistics kept on this

1252
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: because no one really cares. But like any parent will

1253
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: just run into a pet store and buy like a

1254
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: baby turtle for their kid and it'll die, and like,

1255
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: you know, a year or whatever, because no one really

1256
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: knows how to take care of them. But when you do,

1257
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: it's actually pretty easy. You just got to like know

1258
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: to give them the right lighting and the right food

1259
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: and stuff. But anyway, you guys should do it. Get them.

1260
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 2: So turtles care about lighting a lot. They need it.

1261
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's pretty gay to me.

1262
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: If a baby turtle doesn't have full spectrum UV lighting again,

1263
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: dramatic doesn't have full spectrum UV lighting, it will grow

1264
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: up deformed, like it'll get metabolic bone disease and it

1265
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: look like a saddle and it'll be all like fucked up. Wow,

1266
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: this is crazy that you know so much about all

1267
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: this stuff. Yeah, like I said, I have to talk

1268
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 1: about something else. This is like the second or third

1269
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 1: podcast I've gone on, and it's actually so important.

1270
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 2: I think. I don't know Sam if you agree with this,

1271
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 2: So I don't want to project on you. But sometimes

1272
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 2: I am just like, do I even have hobbies? Like?

1273
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:34,439
Speaker 2: Do I have things I actually know about?

1274
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 3: It?

1275
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 2: No?

1276
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 3: When I hear about this, I'm like, oh, have I

1277
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 3: ever been unique? In my entire and not only am

1278
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 3: I not unique? But then it's like so wait, then

1279
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 3: my instinct is to immediately distance myself and from and

1280
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 3: other people that like have actual interests, like before when

1281
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 3: I was like making fun of people for having action figures, like, well, at.

1282
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 2: Least they care about something.

1283
01:00:55,240 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, you care about something. Wedding dress, wedding dresses. Wedding dress, Yeah,

1284
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: wedding dresses.

1285
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 2: And I love the invites, appetizers yeah, geez No, I

1286
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 2: am like what makes me unique.

1287
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 3: I love music and it's like no, And I love

1288
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 3: movies and television.

1289
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like how we're being all supportive all of

1290
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: a sudden, And at the beginning of this we were like,

1291
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: I love that we're mean. I love nasty.

1292
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 3: I liked being mean, but then it was like, you

1293
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 3: can't be mean anymore because you were like being so sincere.

1294
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, because of Woke, because.

1295
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 2: You can't be mean anymore. Because of Woke.

1296
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: You can't be mean anymore because of Woke.

1297
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 2: Litally, damn. It's interesting that I feel like I, in

1298
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 2: my conception of reptiles is so basic and that I

1299
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 2: thought we were going to spend the entire episode talking

1300
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 2: about crocodiles and alligators.

1301
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: Mm no, why.

1302
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 2: Because to me Google It's like Google image reptile is crocodile.

1303
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 3: Oh, it's like an iguana.

1304
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say iguana might be mine too, and

1305
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 1: iguana to me is the default lizard. Have y'all heard

1306
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: those stories about there are so many green iguanas in

1307
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: Greenawaters in Florida now and whenever there's a cold snap,

1308
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 1: they fall out of the tree.

1309
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 2: Can I tell you about it? I used to be

1310
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 2: when I was an editor at the Relaunch Chakra that

1311
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 2: then was shut down. I edited this like long, long article,

1312
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 2: sort of like an essay about someone who lived in

1313
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 2: Florida during that time, and it was like about the

1314
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 2: experience of just like walking around and having iguana's fall

1315
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 2: from trees. It was honestly incredibly educational. Florida, Nat you

1316
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 2: know what's crazy, Okay, Florida. I almost feel like it's

1317
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,439
Speaker 2: out to make fun of Florida, which I a good thing.

1318
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 2: It was like people did it too much. It became lame.

1319
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 2: It had its moment in the media, and you know,

1320
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 2: it was sort of like the whole like joke about like, oh,

1321
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 2: if you google Florida Man and read every article, it's

1322
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 2: like Florida man cuts off his own leg and throat,

1323
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 2: which is true.

1324
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 1: About every state by the way. Literally well it is. However,

1325
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 1: in Colorado you do that and it's all killers.

1326
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 2: That's true, that's true. Yeah, but there is something there

1327
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 2: is just simply some truth to it. Florida is an

1328
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 2: especially weird state.

1329
01:02:58,600 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 1: It is.

1330
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 3: Have you guys seen that TikTok account of the guy

1331
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 3: who like is like today, I'm hunting for my dinner

1332
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 3: and he's like a gay guy who lives in Florida

1333
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 3: and he like will literally be like he has like

1334
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 3: a weird husband and he like cooks him iguana that

1335
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 3: he like hunted from a tree. It's like really gross,

1336
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 3: but I'm kind of addicted to him because it's like

1337
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 3: you're like a psychopath and I celebrate.

1338
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if these people are from Florida, but

1339
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 1: you know that one gay guy who goes he goes

1340
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: to like a chain restaurant. He's like for to drink

1341
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 1: and for to yeah, and then his friend is not

1342
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: as charismatic. Yeah, is that is your couple like that

1343
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: as well? Because there's one guy who's like, oh, he's

1344
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 1: kind of fun, and then his friend gets on and

1345
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, I actually can't understand what she's saying. You're

1346
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: too nasal.

1347
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, this one's more like you don't even see

1348
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 3: the husband except when the husband comes home from work

1349
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 3: and he just hands him like a plate of cooked iguana.

1350
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: You're not talking about Charles and Miss Netta, are you? No?

1351
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1352
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: Okay, white crowd, who's that?

1353
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 3: Charles and Miss Nedda?

1354
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 2: I can't.

1355
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: I can't even begin to describe them, I really can't.

1356
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 2: He's gonna look at up TikTok people.

1357
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think TikTok Instagram.

1358
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 2: As long as I don't, Okay, as long as they're

1359
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 2: social media people and we don't. We're not showing our

1360
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 2: ass by not knowing historical figures.

1361
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: No, no, no, these are not historical.

1362
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 2: Are these founding fathers or yeah? Are they in the

1363
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 2: sort of revolutionary war era? Yeah?

1364
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: Yield to civil rights icons? Yeah, Charles and Miss Nedda?

1365
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 3: No.

1366
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. Florida's crazy. They've got a ton of like weird

1367
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: invasive species. You know, there's the pythons and the nutrio

1368
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 1: rats and chameleons. Florida is filled with chameleons because again,

1369
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: the reptile trait is so irresponsible and crazy, Like a

1370
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: bunch of people have released chameleons and now there is

1371
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: a steady breeding population.

1372
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 2: So here's a question. Are chamelions gay or straight?

1373
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 3: Okay, oh wow quick, this is it's it's a really

1374
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 3: it actually sort of is breaking my brain because it

1375
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 3: could go either way.

1376
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 2: Like the fact that they blend into their environment.

1377
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 3: That's called being closet.

1378
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 2: It's exactly. It's very postive, but it's also very sort

1379
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,479
Speaker 2: of like kind of like waspy. Everyone fall in mind.

1380
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 2: We all have to look the same.

1381
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know the way.

1382
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 3: But they also aren't. Like they're like, I'm the color

1383
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 3: of the tree, but everyone's like, that's not a tree.

1384
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 1: Like they're like, yeah, that's a community.

1385
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 2: Kind of a tragic story really, like you are doing

1386
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 2: this incredibly impressive thing of blending in with your environment,

1387
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 2: and yet you are not blended in with your environment.

1388
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: I am imagining Sam going out into the jungle finding

1389
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 1: a chameleon and just screaming live out loud at the

1390
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: top of it, like be brave.

1391
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 2: I think this is a Pixar movie. By the way,

1392
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 2: it's like the Amelia and who decides not to blend in?

1393
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 3: Oh wait a minute, uh genius rango.

1394
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, is that what that's about?

1395
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 3: Is that what that's about?

1396
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1397
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 1: It's about the West. He's a cowboys. Yeah, that's not

1398
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 1: what we're talking about. Different and this is serious. This

1399
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: is different and it's serious. This was different and serious

1400
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 1: and it's our I p it's our original ip that

1401
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: we have. I think energetically, chameleons often feel straight to me.

1402
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: I think it's the way, no way, no, the way.

1403
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: Now I'm thinking about the way they move and it's

1404
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: absolutely like this thing.

1405
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, like they're basically posing. It's like the yeah, yeah,

1406
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 2: they're basically doing micro movements and posing like oh yeah.

1407
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 1: They always look like they're reaching for a glass of

1408
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: wine and then like rethinking it, you know what I mean,

1409
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 1: was like sure I shouldn't but I oh, I don't know,

1410
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 1: like and they do that forever and then their little eyes,

1411
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 1: their beaty little eyes.

1412
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 2: Driving swirl all over the place.

1413
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would say, yeah.

1414
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 3: Even like the little tail, the way it's like.

1415
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 1: Booooo and what is it like? Sorry, could you tell

1416
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: me what it's like? It's a bit like okay, gotcha,

1417
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,919
Speaker 1: I think yeah, I would say chameleons are definitely gay.

1418
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 1: There are straight lizards.

1419
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 3: I also just like, do you remember seeing like a

1420
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 3: science book as a child, yes, and being like I know.

1421
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 2: That I'm gay.

1422
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 3: I know there's something different about me. And I'm seeing

1423
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 3: the science book and I'm like, you know, I'm scrolling

1424
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 3: past the buffalo and I'm scrolling past the dinosaurs, and

1425
01:06:58,120 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 3: then I see the chameleon and I'm like, now that

1426
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 3: is something that I care about. Something, Yeah, the shape,

1427
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 3: everything about it was just like, no, I need to know.

1428
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: More a real history about these animals than you have.

1429
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 3: To me.

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01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 2: There. I completely agree. I completely agree with you, Sam.

1431
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 2: There is something, there's something so like you're like, it

1432
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 2: can do that? Does it? Like it's I was about

1433
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 2: to say it's smilar to peacocks, but that's not because that's.

1434
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 3: Well, it's it's it's one of those animals. It's a

1435
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 3: it's a it's a dolphin. Yes, it's these animals that

1436
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 3: have like a certain.

1437
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 2: Symbolic yes, a certain genesis quai, certain like place and

1438
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 2: culture that is larger than just their features. Yeah.

1439
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 3: I think you're right, And they almost get into a

1440
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 3: sort of story book where you're like, there's still magic.

1441
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 1: What's interesting is that they never crossed the line into

1442
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 1: it feeling like pastiche your hack, you know, like a

1443
01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 1: lion to me is so secure and pop culture. But

1444
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: hack a line of hack versus like, I don't know,

1445
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: something like in O copy, which is just now breaking

1446
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 1: into the scene.

1447
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 2: What's that word?

1448
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 1: O copy? Okay, forget what I said. Oh copy is

1449
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: actually not iconic, and I thought it was and that

1450
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: was my bad. This accumulated.

1451
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 2: But I do like the the sort of drawing a

1452
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 2: line between hack hack symbolism with animals and more profound Yeah.

1453
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 3: You know what animal I've actually been addicted to recently?

1454
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 2: Which one possums?

1455
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 1: Oh, possums, I think are well that possums are good,

1456
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 1: possums are served, possums are gay.

1457
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 2: Possums are So.

1458
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 3: There was a possum in my backyard the other day

1459
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 3: and my dog picked it up in his mouth, and

1460
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:46,600
Speaker 3: I was like, well, this is so scary.

1461
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah for you, and not for the bossom at all.

1462
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 3: The bossum fine, But then he put the possum down

1463
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 3: and it like, you know, played dead, and I was like, Okay,

1464
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 3: this is incredibly funny. And then my boyfriend was walking

1465
01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:59,799
Speaker 3: by it and it like got up for a second

1466
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 3: to and then realize like what am I doing here?

1467
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 3: And it then pretended to be dead again. And I

1468
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 3: was like this, like lack of you know, tact.

1469
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're doing way.

1470
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 1: It's the fantasy. It's the delusion, you know what I mean.

1471
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 1: It's like if I believe I'm dead, the world will

1472
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 1: believe I'm dead. And also the other gay thing about

1473
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 1: them they only live in the wild max like two years.

1474
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 2: God, I love them.

1475
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, they live fast, they live hard. Yeah, I'm here

1476
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 3: for a good time, not for a long time.

1477
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Possum'm throwing it's prep in the trash for what. Wow?

1478
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 4: Wow?

1479
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 3: Well yea.

1480
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 2: If any any final thoughts on reptiles as straight or

1481
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 2: as gay, you know, it's okay if we went through

1482
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 2: a journey where we all collectively.

1483
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: Well, I think some are straight. I think like I

1484
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 1: think tortoises are straight.

1485
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 3: I was gonna say gay, you're.

1486
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:00,679
Speaker 1: Gonna say gay. I think turtles are gay.

1487
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:02,879
Speaker 3: Oh there's a difference. I hate when there's a difference.

1488
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 2: No, what just happened now, honestly, is very you not knowing,

1489
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 2: Like not knowing tortoise versus turtle is very not knowing.

1490
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:18,679
Speaker 2: You can't eat the art of choke. Yeah, well, the conversation, Sam,

1491
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 2: you must have grown up in michiganoisle tortoise, whatever, just

1492
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 2: different words for this yeah thing whatever.

1493
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 1: If he could fit my soup pot, period it up.

1494
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 1: That's my version of Sam turtle tortoise. I don't give

1495
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: a fuck If it fries up nice, I'm eating it.

1496
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 3: Damn.

1497
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 1: I guess that's my final thought. Yeah, tortoises are straight.

1498
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 1: As your final thought, I think, yeah, most artoises are straight.

1499
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 2: I think that's true. And I do think turtles are gay,

1500
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 2: and so I think that sort of is a nice

1501
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 2: button to the conversation.

1502
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 3: Well, this has been a groundbreaking episode, and I think

1503
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 3: it's time for our final segment shout outs, and in

1504
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 3: the segment with Paymash, the grand straight tradition of the

1505
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:13,799
Speaker 3: radio shout out to anything that we are enjoying on Earth, people, places, things, ideas.

1506
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 3: Pretend it's two thousand and one and you're at TRL

1507
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 3: shouting out to your squad back home, George, do you

1508
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 3: have one?

1509
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:21,520
Speaker 2: Let me think.

1510
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 3: I think I have one that I don't think I've

1511
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 3: talked about yet.

1512
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 2: Okay, you can go first.

1513
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 3: What's up everyone around the globe? That's right, freaks, losers,

1514
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 3: and even the perverts. I want to give a shout

1515
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:38,759
Speaker 3: out to wine. Yeah, I'm giving a shout out to wine.

1516
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 3: It's wine o'clock. I'll say, I have never really understood wine.

1517
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 3: I was like, you're not beer, You're not liquor. What

1518
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 3: is this thing? And it to me, I was always

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01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 3: like yuck, yuck. And recently I watched the film The

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01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 3: Kids Are all Right, and that movie made me understand, Oh,

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01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 3: I get it. Wine is like a thing you drink

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01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 3: when you want to feel like you're in the movie

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01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 3: The Kids Are all Right. So I have been consuming

1524
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 3: wine to be like, Look, I'm like Julianne Moore and

1525
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 3: I'm in a backyard in California having wine, and that

1526
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 3: is the only fantasy in which I can drink wine.

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01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 3: And it's sort of clicking to me. And I still

1528
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 3: don't get pleasure out of it, but I at least

1529
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 3: get this thing of like I'm in The Kids Are

1530
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 3: all Right, and that's where I want to live forever

1531
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 3: and ever. Amen. Xoxo Sam.

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01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 2: First of all, Sam, you have to watch Sideways and

1533
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 2: then you'll really be like obsessed with like being in

1534
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,560
Speaker 2: a wine movie. Have you seen Sideways?

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01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 1: No?

1536
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 2: Does it take place in California. It takes place in California.

1537
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 2: Wine Country, and Paul Giamatti is, you know, sort of

1538
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 2: like a obsessed with wine and he bonds with Virginia

1539
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 2: Madison over their love of wine. And then Thomas Hayden

1540
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 2: Church is sort of like the adult who doesn't get

1541
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 2: it and is like not knowing what the tasting notes are,

1542
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 2: not me. But then there's like, first of all, you're

1543
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 2: gonna love it because obviously I know you're attracted to

1544
01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 2: Paul Giamatty and that's what I call you and big,

1545
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 2: great great Sandra o performance. Oh, I'm telling you you

1546
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 2: gotta watch Sideways. I think the kids are all right

1547
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 2: as your entry into wine. And after Sideways you're gonna

1548
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 2: be literally like pinky out oh, sipping on a glass

1549
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 2: of shibbilee. Now I can't wait, wait, George, Yes, I have,

1550
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 2: when I have, When I have, Okay, okay, uh, you

1551
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 2: know I'm actually gonna take your to your shoutout as

1552
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 2: inspiration into a drink's one myself. What's up drinkers all

1553
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 2: over the world, people who are not sober and people

1554
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 2: who go out and drink.

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01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 3: I want to give a shout out to a drink

1556
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 3: that I had brushed off as old fashioned as something

1557
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 3: my dad drinks as something that I don't know. I

1558
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 3: used to order when I was younger because I didn't

1559
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 3: know what else to order and I had not had it.

1560
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 3: I would say, over a decade, I have recently started

1561
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:56,719
Speaker 3: ordering gin and tonics again.

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01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 2: Whoa, I am all in on gin and tonics. I

1563
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:04,520
Speaker 2: will never forget when Sam's dear boyfriend Nisha made homemade

1564
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 2: tonic and made me a gin and tonic, and I said,

1565
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 2: this is unlocking something within me that has been dormant

1566
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,719
Speaker 2: for years. And that was a journey of self discovery

1567
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 2: that I would say I'm still going on. I would say,

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01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 2: go out there, get some artismal tonics. The one artisanal

1569
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 2: thing we're allowed to have in this era of string

1570
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 2: cheese is artisanal tonics. Some gin and tonic, put some

1571
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 2: fresh squeeze lined in there, and I'm telling you it's

1572
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 2: dare I say, better than tequila soda?

1573
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,799
Speaker 3: WHOA, wait, that's so smart. I actually you were reminding

1574
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 3: me of how much I love gin and tonics. When

1575
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:34,560
Speaker 3: there's artisanal tonic involved.

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01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does make it. It's sort of it is

1577
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 2: like more flavorable than you think it's gonna be. I'm

1578
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 2: so used to just like literally ordering the basins, you know,

1579
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 2: especially when we're going to like not to name any

1580
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 2: names with these sort of like divy gay bars where

1581
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 2: you know the well alcohol is going to be chili

1582
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 2: pretty much jolly, you sort of are like, all right,

1583
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 2: just give me something that is not gonna hurt too much. Yeah,

1584
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 2: but it's okay sometimes.

1585
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 1: I only recently learned that tonic was different than like

1586
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 1: sparkling water.

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01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were the same times, jarringly different. I would say, yeah, yeah,

1588
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 3: just wait till you have the artismal kind. Your head's

1589
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 3: gonna spin.

1590
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: Okay, folks, time for my shout out ladies, the gentleman

1591
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 1: and no one in between. Oh, I'd like to shout

1592
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 1: out Paul Giamatti and John Adams, which is a limited

1593
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 1: series on HBO. You've never heard of it, where he

1594
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 1: plays John Adams, the second President of the United States.

1595
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 1: No wait, it is the second President of the United States.

1596
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 1: He's so good at playing an earnest founding father, better

1597
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 1: than you'd expect. It's gripping, it's cold, they tar and

1598
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:51,759
Speaker 1: feather someone in the first episode. It's no big fat liar,

1599
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 1: but it is something else, something better.

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01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 3: Paul Jammatti and John Adams on HBO.

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01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:01,560
Speaker 2: You know where is this from? There's no way to know, No,

1602
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 2: this is actor. It's funny. I can picture the you know,

1603
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 2: cover of it so well because it's like, you know,

1604
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 2: you go on max dot com and it's recommended it

1605
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 2: would talk about something. It would never occur to me

1606
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 2: to click on.

1607
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it didn't occur to me to click on

1608
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 1: it until I did. Yeah, and it's great. Damn, all

1609
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 1: of it's great. It's a great I would have never

1610
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 1: cast him in a million years. If someone put a

1611
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 1: gun to my head and they were like, cast pel

1612
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 1: Giamati as John Adams, I would be like, absolutely not.

1613
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 2: Who would the trigger? Glenn Powell, Timothy Chalam, Timothy Chalamel.

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01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 1: I don't know, if he wasn't so racist, probably John Voight.

1615
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 2: Oh I thought you were going to say, if he

1616
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 2: wasn't so racist, probably Mel Gibson, because you know.

1617
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:42,759
Speaker 1: There's oh yeah, that maybe too. Yeah.

1618
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 3: We can only names actors. Really, anyone else deserves an

1619
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 3: opportunity to be honest with you. Wait, let me think

1620
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 3: who would I cast?

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01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 1: Oh, oh my gosh, the guy who was on Veep

1622
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 1: who plays Ben. He was as like the big gulp.

1623
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know his name,

1624
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 1: but yeah I don't, but that guy, that's a good one.

1625
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 2: Would cast Julia Luis Dreyfus.

1626
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 3: Ground breaking, well a woman bold, Yeah pretty much?

1627
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:08,919
Speaker 2: Yeah. Is because of woke.

1628
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 3: Well well, Vinny, thank you for doing the pod. This

1629
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 3: has been a real treat.

1630
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you guys so much for having me. I'm

1631
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 1: gonna dig back into these doritos.

1632
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm saying this now on record. When I'm in

1633
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 2: La next, we're gonna hang out.

1634
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 3: We're all going to a bar.

1635
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 2: We're all going we can just be ourselves ourselves, and

1636
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 2: we're recording the whole thing for Patreon.

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01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:31,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, Live the Bacbar.

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01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 1: I think that's fair.

1639
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Okay, Bye.

1640
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:39,760
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