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Speaker 1: Happy Monday. We have an amazing show for everybody today.

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Speaker 1: What do we have, pristol Indeed, we do lots of

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Speaker 1: interest store interesting stories to get into this Monday morning,

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Speaker 1: if I'm able to speak. So some big developments. Nancy

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Speaker 1: a smidge, which, given her previous comments in total scorn

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Speaker 1: for the idea, is a significant development. We'll tell you

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Speaker 1: raising comments from one Dan Crunshaw on the matter as well.

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Speaker 1: You may recall Crunshaw has been one of the top

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Speaker 1: that guy's really onto something. If you guys want to

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Speaker 1: we give you those details. Also, a really stunning story

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Speaker 1: that you picked up on these healthcare workers who were

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Speaker 1: changing jobs. They had new job, new hospital, all seems

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Speaker 1: normal and better offer there about her benefits, etc. They said,

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Speaker 1: judge has blocked them, yes, from changing jobs because their

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Speaker 1: give you all of those details there. Maybe you guys

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Speaker 1: escalation and saber rattling with regards to Ukraine. But we

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Speaker 1: wanted to start with the stock market, which has experienced

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Speaker 1: precipitous drops. Let's go ahead and throw this first element

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Speaker 1: So that is why we are focusing on this this

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Speaker 1: keep backstopping the market. The problem is that those policies,

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Speaker 1: Quantitative easing is what it's called, is just basically injecting

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Speaker 1: it's sort of like socialism for the rich, effectively injecting

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Speaker 1: analysts say also huge asset bubbles. Now, when huge asset

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Speaker 1: And I think that what this points to, Crystal is

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Speaker 1: largest continental European power within both the military and economic

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Speaker 1: perspective in the NATO Alliance. So whenever that is the

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Speaker 1: case and they themselves don't want to get involved, you

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Speaker 1: also should consider the domestic populations of the actual European nations.

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Speaker 1: Put this up there on the screen, which is that.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead and take a look at recent polling data

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Speaker 1: from actual NATO countries. Fifty three percent of the French

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Speaker 1: opposed going to war if a fellow NATO member is attacked,

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Speaker 1: so not even Ukraine. Sixty percent of Germans. Likewise, and

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Speaker 1: I saw Abamari points out, Ukraine is not even a

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Speaker 1: member of the NATO Alliance, so they don't have Article

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Speaker 1: five Protection. Now, look, is it true that the West

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Speaker 1: did engage in some promises with Ukraine in terms of

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Speaker 1: not necessarily guaranteeing their security, but saying that if they

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Speaker 1: gave up nuclear weapons that they would have some sort

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Speaker 1: of inte listen, like your sanctions and all. That I

447
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Speaker 1: think is fine, or at the very least like some

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Speaker 1: sort of backlane by the continental European powers. I think

449
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Speaker 1: wars of territorial conquest are absolutely bad, but increasing thousands

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Speaker 1: of US troops into Europe, and again for a country

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Speaker 1: of which there is no strategic bent, and I don't

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Speaker 1: like to talk this way, but it's Look, this is geopolitics.

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Speaker 1: Ukraine is in the Russian sphere of influence. It has

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Speaker 1: been for five hundred years. It was part of the

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Speaker 1: USSR as recently you know what, nineteen fifty three or whatever,

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Speaker 1: it was part of that country. It's been part of

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Speaker 1: the Greater Russian Empire for on and off for a

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Speaker 1: long time. In terms of its economic relations with the

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Speaker 1: United States not really that big. It's not like they

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Speaker 1: ship us anything. In particular, they have much more of

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Speaker 1: an interest, the Russians do in terms of keeping it

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Speaker 1: inside their influence than we do. We have nothing majorly

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Speaker 1: strategic at stake here, so it doesn't make a lot

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Speaker 1: of sense in order to risk nuclear war. And I

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Speaker 1: think that that is the terms of which we should discuss.

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Speaker 1: This is real life, This is not a joke, and

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Speaker 1: this First World War, the escalatory ladders of not understanding

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Speaker 1: where the other side is coming from. The other point

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Speaker 1: here I would make is there's a lot of saber

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Speaker 1: riding in DC about oh, you know, we got to

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Speaker 1: make sure that you know, we appear tough. It's like,

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Speaker 1: to what end? Right? To what end does that end? Is?

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Speaker 1: I actually could I actually think Biden's comments, the ones

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Speaker 1: that sort of fell out of his mouth and everybody

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Speaker 1: jumped on him for the process, that probably is where

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Speaker 1: he actually is that he doesn't really want to do

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Speaker 1: anything too crazy if Russian does just the tip kind

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Speaker 1: of invasion that he does. But we've seen before the

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Speaker 1: way that commander in chiefs get pulled into this. We've

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Speaker 1: seen the incredible powers of manipulation of sorry to use

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Speaker 1: the term, the deep state here in Washington. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's exactly the process that is playing out right now.

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Speaker 1: They pull you in, they say you've got to appeer tough.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we're not going to actually do. But you

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Speaker 1: gotta you gotta say you're going to send the troops in.

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Speaker 1: You gotta say, you got to pull the diplomat's families down,

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Speaker 1: You got to ratchet up the pressure. You have to

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Speaker 1: make them understand that you're going to be tough. Well,

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Speaker 1: once you've said all of those things and you've gone

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Speaker 1: out on that limb, then what And that's how presidents

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Speaker 1: get pulled into conflicts. As you've said, this is incredibly

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Speaker 1: dangerous to nuclear powers. Butting head in this old school,

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Speaker 1: throwback Cold War kind of way, Why in the world

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Speaker 1: would we care more about policing Europe's borders than the

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Speaker 1: Europeans state they don't care. I mean, that's their problem.

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Speaker 1: That's ultimately what it comes down to. And that's the

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Speaker 1: op ed you were talking about. So is it really

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Speaker 1: that crazy for Biden for the American people to groan

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Speaker 1: at a supposed duty to police Europe's borders when Europeans

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Speaker 1: have been this indifferent this long. No, it is actually

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Speaker 1: the height of sanity. So again, all of these rhetorical fins,

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Speaker 1: even if they are meant just to be rhetorical fates,

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Speaker 1: they get you out on a limb, where then you

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Speaker 1: look like a fool if you don't follow through. And

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Speaker 1: then what does Putin do? And then they again tell you,

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Speaker 1: President Buying, you're going to look like a fool if

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Speaker 1: you don't also respond to this aggression. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: we've just gotten out of Afghanistan, so the Hawks are

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Speaker 1: rich and for some other conflict to pull the American

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Speaker 1: people into, and that's what we're seeing play out right now.

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Speaker 1: Of course, they've already sent lethal aid to Ukraine. This

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Speaker 1: is the US embassy tweeted this out, showing off the

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Speaker 1: first Biden lethal aid shipments to arrive. This came in

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Speaker 1: very quickly. In total, Washington has issued over two point

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Speaker 1: seven billion dollars in what they call defensive aid going

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Speaker 1: back to twenty fourteen, with the latest commitment of six

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million dollars more being pledged last year.

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Speaker 1: So you know, there again saber rattling, showing how tough

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Speaker 1: they are, showing how serious they are. We also covered

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Speaker 1: last week how the CIA has been training a potential

521
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Speaker 1: insurgency for years now, started under Obama, amped under Trump,

522
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Speaker 1: ramped up even further under Biden. So this is the

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Speaker 1: type of dangerous situation that we are facing right now.

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Speaker 1: Never forget the media has no interest in telling you.

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Speaker 1: They want you just to think Putin, is this just

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Speaker 1: operating from pure evil that they have no own national interests.

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Speaker 1: They never want to explain to you the perspective of

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Speaker 1: US adversaries. And that's not even to justify that person.

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Speaker 1: Say it's fine, it's good, whatever. But if you want

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Speaker 1: to be serious about thinking through these issues, you have

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Speaker 1: to understand the way that your opponents are also thinking

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Speaker 1: through this issue. And that is where the US media

533
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: is just total propaganda. And you know, effectively by leaving

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Speaker 1: that side out of the equation, is effectively lying to

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Speaker 1: you about what is really going on. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know any network out there that will tell

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Speaker 1: you that. George Kennan, the father of containment who invented

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Speaker 1: the entire Cold War strategy against the Russians, predicted that

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Speaker 1: NATO expansion into the Baltic areas into Eastern Europe would

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Speaker 1: trigger another conflict with Russia and was rubbing it in

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Speaker 1: the face of the fall of the Soviet Union and

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Speaker 1: would lead to the rise of Ravanist, very paranoid people

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Speaker 1: within Russia aka Putin and the people around him. Putin

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Speaker 1: has said that the fall of the Soviet Union, I

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Speaker 1: think is like the greatest human tragedy that ever occurred.

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Speaker 1: I mean you have to understand the mindset of which

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Speaker 1: that they were raised in, and you also have to

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Speaker 1: understand of greater Russian history. They have always viewed continental

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Speaker 1: defense in depth, and by that I mean other people.

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Speaker 1: And I know it's difficult to talk about this because

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Speaker 1: there are real lives at stake. If you Ukrainian, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair that you get used as

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Speaker 1: ponds in a great continental game. But that's how great

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Speaker 1: geopolitics works. Russia is a nuclear power. That's how they

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Speaker 1: view both the Baltic States and Ukraine. They see it

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Speaker 1: as much more of a stronger security interest, both in

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Speaker 1: terms of being able to remind the globe that they

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Speaker 1: are still a global player with nukes that can influence

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Speaker 1: global events and also saying, hey, don't get any big

560
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Speaker 1: ideas you think you can't come over here and just

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Speaker 1: you know, continue to expand in our neighborhood and just

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Speaker 1: pay zero price for it. So the history of US

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Speaker 1: policy posts that fall of the Cold War has made

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Speaker 1: it so that. Look, we intervened in Kosovo in the

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Speaker 1: traditional you know, USSR sphere of influence. We expanded NATO,

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Speaker 1: We invited Ukraine and Georgia into the NATO Alliance. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this was this was seen with no There was no

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Speaker 1: controversy about that. In Washington at the zero everybody here

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Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, it's the best thing ever. Rubber stamp, boom, Russia,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, invades Georgia. It was like a slap in

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Speaker 1: the face of history returning. And I think that people

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Speaker 1: need to understand that history did not begin in nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety one. It's going on for a long time. The

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Speaker 1: last thing I want to say here in terms of

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Speaker 1: how totally psychotic some of the people who were treated

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Speaker 1: very seriously here in those in this town are when

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Speaker 1: it comes to these sorts of issues in that same

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Speaker 1: New York Times are to where they're talking about, all right,

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Speaker 1: Biden's weighing sending thousands more troops, they say. Another former

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Speaker 1: top Pentagon official for Russia policy, Jim Townsend, said that

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Speaker 1: even that proposal didn't go far enough. Quote, it's too little,

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Speaker 1: too late to deter putin. Mister Townsend said in an email.

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Speaker 1: If the Russians do invade Ukraine in a few weeks,

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Speaker 1: those five thousands should just be a down payment for

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Speaker 1: a much larger US and Allied force presence. Quote Western

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Speaker 1: Europe should once again be an armed camp. That's the

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Speaker 1: way people who are being taken seriously on this, that's

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Speaker 1: the sort of things that they're thinking, even these thousands

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Speaker 1: of troops escalation that Biden is contemplating, that that's not enough.

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Speaker 1: That you know, if Putin invades and we're going to

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Speaker 1: have to do way more than that, Western Europe should

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Speaker 1: once again be an armed camp. Those are the sorts

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Speaker 1: of words and thoughts and ideological direction that should absolutely terrify.

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Speaker 1: That's nuts. I have sorry one last thing. You guys

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Speaker 1: will remember Alexander Vinman, the heroic colonel who sparked Ukraine

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Speaker 1: Gate and all that. This guy has been all over

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Speaker 1: cable news the last twenty four hours, where he has

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Speaker 1: been pronouncing quote, war is coming to Europe. He says

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Speaker 1: that the US is going to get involved whether they

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Speaker 1: like it or not. Literally, war is coming to Europe.

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Speaker 1: The US was sucked into the European Wars twice. Here

602
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Speaker 1: is my new op ed on how we mitigate the

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Speaker 1: risk to US national security. He is all but saying

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Speaker 1: that war is inevitable on the continent. You got news

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Speaker 1: to the Europeans. But these are the people who are

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Speaker 1: elevated to the worst highest parts and heroically made amongst

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Speaker 1: a democratic base and amongst MSNBC and all these people

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Speaker 1: who take their word as gospel. He stood up to

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Speaker 1: the big bad Trump. And now this nutcase wants us

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Speaker 1: to have a full blown war on the European continent

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Speaker 1: with Russia over Ukraine. That was not even a possibility

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Speaker 1: in the US at the height of the Cold War

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Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty two. If you had said, yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: going to go to war over Ukraine, Eisenhower and John

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Speaker 1: Foster Dollis and all those would have been like, are

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Speaker 1: you nuts? That's part of the USSR. And yet here

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Speaker 1: we are twenty twenty two, and it's somehow gotten even crazier.

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Speaker 1: What a world. Speaking of neo cons Dan Crenshaw with

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Speaker 1: some very interesting new comments. So before we play you

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Speaker 1: exactly what he said, you will recall that Unusual Wales

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Speaker 1: has put out that report of trades by Members of

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Speaker 1: Congress which show that Representative Dan Crenshaw has got the

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Speaker 1: fifth largest return in all of Congress. Now, Crenshaw had

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Speaker 1: not yet been pressed on this report up until recently

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Speaker 1: where he actually appeared on a podcast. And I want

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Speaker 1: to give a special shout out actually to this interviewer

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Speaker 1: because he did not let it go. He pressed him

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Speaker 1: over and over again. This is from the All American

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Speaker 1: Savage Show. And when Crenshaw appeared, the interviewer not only

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Speaker 1: presses him on why you would have to know why

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Speaker 1: it looks bad, he actually gets Crenshaw to disclose some

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Speaker 1: of the details on that trades and all but admit that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I understand why people make it looks bad,

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Speaker 1: but the reason why it should be allowed is because

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Speaker 1: us as members of Congress, we don't get paid enough.

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Speaker 1: You see, we're living a very poor life, a very

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Speaker 1: paltry lifestyle. I'm not exaggerating. That's literally what he says.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen. There is one topic that I

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Speaker 1: definitely want to get straight from the horse's mouth on

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Speaker 1: this one. It wasn't very long ago that Nancy Pelosi

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Speaker 1: was asked a question regards to can member sitting members

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Speaker 1: of Congress or should they be allowed to have direct

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Speaker 1: involvement in the trading in the stock market and things

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Speaker 1: such as that, and she said, yes, it's a capitalist society.

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Speaker 1: She supports that. And there was an article that was

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Speaker 1: just published about yourself. I'm pretty sure you're probably aware

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Speaker 1: of this, and basically talked about I'd seen some turning

648
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 1: point people posting about this, and said this is coming

649
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: from Texas Signals saying Dan Crenshaw's stock trading you able

650
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Speaker 1: to the fifth highest return in Congress, basically pointing out

651
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: that your campaign had received a donation from Boeing, they

652
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 1: had lobbied things such as that. Where do you stand

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Speaker 1: on the number two twofold question? Do you believe that

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Speaker 1: sitting members of Congress should be allowed to trade in

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Speaker 1: the stock market even though you kind of have direct

656
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Speaker 1: insight and somewhat control over how that flow goes in

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Speaker 1: which government favorite corporations you get where I'm going, let's

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Speaker 1: let's start with that one first. Where do you stand

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Speaker 1: on that? I mean, I think it'd be fine if

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Speaker 1: you wanted to ban individual stock trading. Notice that said

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Speaker 1: individual stocks, But what of course as opposed to as

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00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: opposed to ETFs in DEXes. You know, I I'm kind

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00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: of neutral on it, Like, if if you want only

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Speaker 1: millionaires and billionaires to run for Congress. Then then keep

665
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: making sure that we can't raise our pay, that we

666
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: can't get a housing stype in that we have to

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00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: just spend, spend or pay rent in two different places.

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00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: That's fine, if if you want to if if that's

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Speaker 1: what you want to support, but just keep in mind

670
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 1: that no one will, no one will run for Congress

671
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: because it's it's you have no way to better yourself.

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00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: You have no way to better yourself. Last time I checked,

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00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: these guys job was not to better themselves. It was

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Speaker 1: to better the lives of the people that they represent.

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Speaker 1: About that, and just to give you an idea, these

676
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: people make one hundred and seventy four thousand dollars per year.

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Speaker 1: Whenever Crenshaw and these people complain about this, what they

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00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: really mean is I cannot afford the lifestyle of all

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00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: of the rich people of whom I comport myself with

680
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: as a member of Congress. You can pay just fine,

681
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: by the way, on one hundred and seventy four thousand

682
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: dollars per year, if you live in a modest house

683
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Speaker 1: of your district, and if you were to rent like

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Speaker 1: a cheap hotel or whatever, here in Washington. I have

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00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 1: friends who were staffers on Capitol Hill were really pissed

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Speaker 1: off by that because they contacted me and said, you know,

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Speaker 1: the congressmen and all people who work on Capitol Hill

688
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: make many multiples less of this and are expected to

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Speaker 1: live in Washington, D C. And they made it just

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00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: completely fine. So little they make, like this is not

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Speaker 1: a joke. Guy, it's like twenty eight thousand dollars, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: starting salary, which is really which is a real problem

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Speaker 1: because then yeah, basically the only people who can afford

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Speaker 1: to do it are people who and live in Washington,

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Speaker 1: are people whose parents can help finance them here, and

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Speaker 1: so it does create this pipeline of just basically affluent

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Speaker 1: staffers and very hard for working class people to make it. Ultimately,

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Speaker 1: in that world, it's absurd and it's disgusting and it's

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00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: so revealing. They don't see themselves as public servants. They're

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00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: here to enrich themselves. They're here to fatten their employment prospects.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what they're all angling for. Like, if

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Speaker 1: you want to understand what Kirson Cinema's doing, for example,

703
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: she doesn't care about like winning the next Senate seed

704
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: she cares about how much she's going to cash in

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Speaker 1: when she gets out of here, and that is not

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Speaker 1: in any way unique. And you see them using whatever

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Speaker 1: they can while they're in office to cash in while

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Speaker 1: they are still in office, as Dan Crenshaw has done

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Speaker 1: extraordinarily effectively fifth best apparently among him and all of

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Speaker 1: his colleagues. So yeah, it tells you so much about

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Speaker 1: the mindset. And here's another thing, because you know, a

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Speaker 1: particular interest of mine has been getting more working class

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Speaker 1: people into Congress, because look, it doesn't solve anything everything,

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Speaker 1: but having more people who live and know normal Americans

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Speaker 1: would definitely benefit us in terms of the types of

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Speaker 1: policies that they would ultimately pursue, rather than seeing themselves

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Speaker 1: in this elite social set that they actually are in

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00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 1: touch with the real lives and real concerns of ordinary

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Speaker 1: Americans would be a wonderful thing. There has been zero

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Speaker 1: improvement in terms of what class people are coming from

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Speaker 1: when they represent us in Congress and state houses around

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Speaker 1: the country, even as gender and racial diversity has improved.

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Speaker 1: And it has nothing to do with the salary not

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Speaker 1: being enough. You take an ordinary working class person, say hey,

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Speaker 1: you get to Congress, you're gonna make one hundred seventy K.

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Speaker 1: They think that was a pretty good deal. The problem

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00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: comes from the fact that you have before you can

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Speaker 1: even walk in and you know, get through the gates

729
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party or the Republican Party, they want

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Speaker 1: to see that you either are personally rich or that

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Speaker 1: your social circle is personally rich. Then if you can

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Speaker 1: somehow manage to raise through grassroots support enough money for

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Speaker 1: the parties to take you seriously, then you face overwhelming

734
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: contempt from the elites in the party and the donor class,

735
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: who think that if you're not an Ivy League educated whatever,

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Speaker 1: then you can't possibly understand the problems of the nation

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Speaker 1: to be able to effectively run and serve an office.

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Speaker 1: That's why you end up with so little class diversity.

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00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: There's all these gatekeeping mechanisms to keep working class people

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Speaker 1: from running successfully for Congress. It has nothing to do

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Speaker 1: with making one hundred and seventy k. Once you get there,

742
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: so extraordinarily revealing comments about what these people actually think

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Speaker 1: they're doing here in Washington. Another thing I want to

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00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: point out is that when they say you have no

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00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 1: way to better yourself, you could better yourself by doing

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Speaker 1: what the rest of us working stiffs do or Crystal

747
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: and I did. You can start your own company, you could.

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00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: You can leave Congress tomorrow. You can go and work

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Speaker 1: for somebody if you really have the skills. Here's the truth.

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Speaker 1: Most of them have no actual skills. They have no

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00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: ability to make any real money out in the private sector.

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00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: Their only value, add is here in DC trying to

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Speaker 1: rig the systems of power, working on behalf of the power.

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Speaker 1: Well here's the other thing I love during that interview,

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Speaker 1: this ranger of the all the all, what is it

756
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: all American savage? I think all American savage. Again. I

757
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: give a lot of credit to this guy because he

758
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: was like, well, okay, how much did you make? And

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00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: Crenshaw goes, look, it was only twenty thousand dollars. Only

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Speaker 1: twenty thousand, okay, I just looked it up. He makes

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Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy four thousand dollars a year. That

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Speaker 1: is eleven percent of his total take of the year

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. That's actually a lot of money. Then he

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Speaker 1: presses him and goes, did you buy individual stocks? You

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00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: about Boeing right, And Crenshaw was like, yeah, you know,

766
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: like two thousand dollars, and so all American Savage goes again,

767
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: he goes, well, have you ever met with any boeing

768
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 1: lobbyists before? And he's like, look, I'm sure they've been

769
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: present at my events, and he goes, can you understand

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00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: then and see why people would be so specially when

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00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: Crenshaw goes, look, they don't tell us anything. He's like,

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Speaker 1: he goes, I think you guys dramatically overestimate how you

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Speaker 1: know the amount of insider knowledge and all this. I'm serious,

774
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: it's too long to play at all. I really want

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00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: everybody to go and listen to this full interview because

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00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: Crenshaw is so full of it, a some sob story

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Speaker 1: about he's too poor to afford living in two places. No,

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00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: no, no no, you can afford it, just fine, just not

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00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: the way that you want to live large and you

780
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: don't have enough skills to actually do anything in the

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00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: private sector. That's the reason why they want to get

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Speaker 1: paid more. And then b just writing it off as

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00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: if it's some public conspiracy theory to think that these

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00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: people who lie for a living would not lie to

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00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: us and ask them to they want us to trust

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00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: them and their intentions. Hell no, Congress remove all the barriers.

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00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: And to your point, this is so dramatically popular that

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00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 1: even Nancy Pelosi, the Queen of trading herself, has now

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00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: had to fold and say, look, if the members of

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Speaker 1: Congress want to do it, then I support it. Let's

791
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: take a listen. So when people talk about, well somebody

792
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: might do this and somebody, I think I trust our members.

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00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: If in fact we should have severe penalties for delay

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00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: and reporting on stock, then do that. I've said to

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Speaker 1: the House Administration Committee, review all the bills that are

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00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: coming in and see which ones where the support is

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00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: in our caucus. I think there are two letters each

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00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: has like fourteen members signing it so far. Maybe more

799
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: will come, but that's what we have seen. But I

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00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: do I do come down always in favor of trusting

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00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 1: our members. Now, if the impression that is given by

802
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: some that somebody's doing insider for that's a nation, that's

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00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 1: a Justice department issue. Take that's a Justice department issue,

804
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: and that has no place in any of this. But

805
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: to give a blanket attitude of we can't do this

806
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: and we can't do that because we can't be trust it,

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00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: I just don't buy into that. But if members weren't

808
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: to do that. I'm okay with it. Oh yeah, I

809
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: still don't support it, but if they want to do it,

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00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: I'm aware. Maybe I'm okay. Yeah, because you're retiring. That's

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00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 1: why you're okay. Yeah. I mean it is like this

812
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: shouldn't count for progress, but it does. It is her

813
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: previous chalments. Her previous comments were like, no, it's the

814
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: free market and people should be able to engage in that.

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Speaker 1: I love her framing though, of like I trust the

816
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: members of Congress. We don't trust the members of Congress.

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00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: It's not really about whether you trust them, it's about

818
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: whether we trust them. And the bottom line is the

819
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: numbers don't lie. And this is why Unusual Whales has

820
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: been so important because by doing the work of crunching

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00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: the numbers, you can see, Oh, turns out you guys

822
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: outperformed market. Oh turns out you outperform some of the

823
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: like you know, most highly like the people who are

824
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: supposed to be extracts at this. Turns out you all

825
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: somehow are better at it. Interesting. We got to see

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Speaker 1: how Yeah, oh, you're on a significant defense committee and

827
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: then you're buying stock in Boeing and raytheon and these

828
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: other things. Or oh, you claim publicly to be some

829
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: big tech critic, meanwhile you're making money off when the

830
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: tech stocks go up. Or oh, hey, you had a

831
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Speaker 1: bunch of like an insider briefing on the pandemic and

832
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: what was coming, and then you dumped a bunch of stocks.

833
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: That's kind of weird. Why'd you do that? We have

834
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 1: just been able to see through the transparency and through

835
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: the analytical data crunching of people like unusual Whales, exactly

836
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: what's going on. And so listen, if you're not insider trading,

837
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: if this is all on the up and up, then

838
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be concerned about this. You know, if we

839
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: could ban trading and get somebody like crunch Hour retire,

840
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: that's a public service in my opinion. Well that's the thing, Okay,

841
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: go better yourself. How much how much would we see

842
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 1: of how many people would retire once they were no

843
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: longer able to better themselves through using insider knowledge to

844
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: play the stock market. It would at least we're not

845
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: a few too pretenders who are not public servants at all,

846
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: who were just there ultimately to cash in, and they

847
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: can leave their office and go cash in his lobbyist

848
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: even quicker, which is a whole other problem that we

849
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: also need to deal with. That's right, okay, let's speaking

850
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: of rigged systems. This is the craziest story that I've

851
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: seen in a long time. Thank you to the anti

852
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: work subreddit for flagging it for us. Let's go ahead

853
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 1: and put that up on the screen, giving them credit

854
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: for popularizing this. So here's what they says. Judge allows

855
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: healthcare system to prevent at will employees from accepting better

856
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: offers at a competing hospital by granting an injunction to

857
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: prevent them from starting new positions on Monday. I'm going

858
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: to butcher the name. I'm sorry, Appleton, Wisconsin, Ottagamy, I

859
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: think out of Gamey County Circuit Court Judge Mark McGinnis

860
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: has granted FATA Care's requests to temporarily block seven of

861
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 1: its employees who had applied for and accepted jobs at

862
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: ascension from beginning work there on Monday until the health

863
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: system could find replacements for them. Get this, Each of

864
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: the employees were employed at will, meaning they were not

865
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: under any obligation to stay there for a certain period

866
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: of time, and one of the employees who approached them

867
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: with the chance to match The offers wrote in a

868
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: letter that they were told the long term expense that

869
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: data care was not worth the short term costs. No

870
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 1: counter offer was made. So this is from the Post

871
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: and the Crescent, its local news. What they point to

872
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: is that in court, we essentially have a judge here

873
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: who has blocked at will employees from accepting a new

874
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: job at which they were getting paid more competitive rates

875
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: and even gave their competitor the ability to match them. Now,

876
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: what the argument from the people who say that they

877
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: have to stay is that this is a big radiology team.

878
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: These interventional radiologists are regularly available to treat patients. We

879
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: really need them to stay all of this. Okay, If

880
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: that's the case, then pay them any won't do that,

881
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: They won't counter offer them whatsoever. And these workers are

882
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: doing what is our god given American right, which is

883
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: to go and get paid more if somebody else is

884
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: offering you more, especially if it's legally codified as at

885
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: well employment, which usually works for the benefit of these

886
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: goons in the private sector. And yet now you get

887
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,439
Speaker 1: a judge in order to force you to work. Think

888
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: about that, force you to work. Now they've come to

889
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: some agreement where they have to do with some sort

890
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: of time share and they have to keep working at

891
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 1: the other place. I don't know what country I'm living

892
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: in where somebody can force you to work somewhere which

893
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: you are not legally obligated to work. It's completely nuts.

894
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: So well, think of the typical libertarian argument is, hey,

895
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: if you don't like your job, yes, it's a free country,

896
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 1: go get another one. They did, then a judge blocks

897
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: them from living. I read everything I could find on this,

898
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: every article I could find. I watched, you know, THETA Care,

899
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: which is the hospital group that's trying to keep these

900
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: employees against their will. I watched them explain their side,

901
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 1: and I cannot possibly wrap my head around it. Their

902
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: argument is, hey, we've got this eleven person team, and

903
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: what they allege is that the other hospital went out

904
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: and recruited seven of their people and hired them away

905
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: from them. That's yeah, Number one, that's not illegal. This

906
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: happens all the time. You're allowed to recruit employees. Number two.

907
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: The workers and the other hospital system says, no, we didn't.

908
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: There was one person who got a job here. Other

909
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: people you know, probably talk to that person, were like, oh,

910
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: it seems like you got a pretty good deal. They

911
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: applied for other openings, and they decided they were getting

912
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: a better deal, so they left. What's more, as you

913
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: point out, THETA Care, the hospital that has, rather than

914
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 1: offering them more money to stay, instead gone to court

915
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: and found a sympathetic judge to require them to stay.

916
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 1: They had a chance to offer more money, to make

917
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: a counter proposal, and they did not want to so yes.

918
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: Of course, when it is the employer who wants to

919
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: fire people casually for whatever reason downsizing, sorry, pandemic came, sorry,

920
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: we don't need you, et cetera, et cetera. We want

921
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: to beef up our profit margins. That's never a problem.

922
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: You can't as an individual person go to a judge

923
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: and be like, listen, this is really a tough situation

924
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: for me. But here the hospital is able to go

925
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: to the judge and say, hey, it's a tough situation

926
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: for us, and the courts intervene. I can't wrap my

927
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: head around it. It is the craziest thing, and it

928
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: just really exposes the lie that this is in any

929
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: way a free market. The moment that labor gets even

930
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: a little bit tiny bit of an upper hand in

931
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: the situation. Then the powers that be have to come

932
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: in and squash that and make sure it's still going

933
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: to all turn out all right for the bosses. It

934
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: is a completely insane situation. And the specifics of the

935
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: deal they say, the judge granted injunction says they have

936
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: to make available to FATA Care one invasive radiology technician

937
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: and one registered nurse of the individuals resigning their employment

938
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: with data Care to join ascension that's the other one

939
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: with their support to include on call responsibilities. Or they

940
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: have to cease the hiring of the individual's reference until

941
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: THEATACARE has been able to hire adequate staff to replace

942
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: those departing team members. So again, do we have a

943
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: state run healthcare system or not? These are right, and

944
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: these these are not employees like in entertainment a lot

945
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: sometimes you're like these use anchors whatever, you're under contract

946
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: and you have to stay a certain period time. No, no, no,

947
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: no, no no, there's nothing like that whatsoever. They just found

948
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: a new job and now they're not being allowed to

949
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: leave and they're being forced to work at this company

950
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: against their will. Crazy situations. No, and they acknowledge. So

951
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: the attorneys for the people. The actual employees said that

952
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: Data Care had weeks to give them a counter offer,

953
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: to make alternative staff arrangements, to make a plan for

954
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: what was happening. And what I think is the most

955
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: disingenuous part of this is that the healthcare industry is

956
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:13,240
Speaker 1: using COVID as an excuse. They're like, hey, look, COVID

957
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,240
Speaker 1: is ravaging our county. The healthcare system is at the brink.

958
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 1: We need our workers here or the community will suffer.

959
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: And some judge seems to have, you know, cave into that.

960
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing these as I understand it, our

961
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: hospitals are making bank right now because they get reimbursed

962
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: for all the COVID care patients or whatever by the

963
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: government and the insurance companies per the agreements that we

964
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: have all signed and through the Cares Act, et cetera.

965
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: And they are flushed with more money than ever. As

966
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: I understand it, the private health hospital system is going

967
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: gangbusters in terms of cash. So they have the money

968
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 1: if they want in order to pay these guys more.

969
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: You could do it tomorrow. That's the whole point of

970
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: at Will, right, It's supposed to be a beneficial relationship.

971
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: So they claim on both sides, but you get a

972
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: judge enforce her to stop your employees from going to

973
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: go work for somewhere else, then my only fears is

974
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: a contagion and it's going to spread because once you

975
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 1: set this type of standard. Think about the healthcare workers

976
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: right now who are trying to make their lives better

977
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 1: and trying to make some more money and had hell

978
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: for two years right well now getting totally screwed over.

979
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: It's terrible. It's it's indentured servitude. Yeah, no, it is.

980
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: I mean that's basically this is like court enforced indentured servitude.

981
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: Absolutely crazy situation, and I just can't see in any

982
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: sane world with the legal rationale. Here is whatsoever? Stand

983
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: with you, workers with you. Will keep you guys updated

984
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,479
Speaker 1: if there's anything to say. All right, guys. Also wanted

985
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: to bring you some eyebrow raising comments from our press secretary,

986
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: Jen Saki, who I found out. You guys know, I

987
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: was a competitive summary in college. I found out she

988
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: was also a competitive summary. Oh it's kind of irritated me,

989
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: but I did look up her times when I was

990
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: faster better. Sorry Jen. Anyway, now that I've come my

991
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: meat geral moment out of the way, and so she

992
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: went on the view and she was asked, Hey, for

993
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: people who are profoundly disappointed that, you know, you guys

994
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: have basically failed miserably to do anything recently. This is

995
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: the way I raised it, not the way they phrased it.

996
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: What should they do? Take a listen to what she

997
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: had to say. So my advice to everyone out there

998
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: who's frustrated, said, angry, pissed off, feel those emotions, go

999
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: to a kickboxing class, have a margarita, do whatever you

1000
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: need to do this weekend, and then wake up on

1001
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: Monday morning. We got to keep fighting. And what that means, lindsay,

1002
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: is we have to keep talking to members about federal legislation.

1003
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: That's essential. That's something that can be permanent, that can

1004
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 1: make sure people's rights are protected. But we also need

1005
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: to make sure people are educated and states across the

1006
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: country about what their rights are, how they can vote,

1007
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: when they can vote, how to request an absentee ballot.

1008
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 1: There's a lot we need to do on that front,

1009
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: and that's going to rely on the energy and the

1010
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: anger of those that activism as well. There's so much here.

1011
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, there's the immediate shifting of

1012
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: blame effectively to like, you guys got to get out

1013
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: there and do the work to you know, to make

1014
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: all this stuff happen, as if you aren't the representative

1015
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: of the most powerful person in the country in some

1016
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: ways the world. That's number one. Number two, your assumption

1017
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 1: that the people that you're speaking to have the kind

1018
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: of money and leisure time to partake in the activities

1019
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: that you're suggesting also speaks to who you think is

1020
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: in the democratic base. Accurately, I'd say at this point,

1021
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 1: I'll go, you know, go to an expensive kickpack boxing class,

1022
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: have a margarita, relax, and then get back out there

1023
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: and fight. Is pretty revealing that this is what she thinks,

1024
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: and that people have like free cash laying around to

1025
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: do whatever they want to do, when you all have

1026
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: failed so miserably in part because you haven't dealt with

1027
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: the economic issues that have made life so difficult for

1028
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: so many people. So many people. Any little bump that

1029
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: they got during the pandemic from the super doll unemployment,

1030
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: from the direct stimulants that went into their accounts that

1031
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: has been spent down and more saving rate is less

1032
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: than it was pre pandemic. Bank account levels are lower,

1033
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: so folks here out there in the countryside don't have

1034
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: a lot of just free cash to you know, hang

1035
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: out this weekend and engage in the sort of leisure

1036
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: activities that you're expressing. I would more just make it

1037
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: like more of a metapoint and just show you that,

1038
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: like I know this woman, because they're all the same,

1039
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: most of them here, they're all like that, just the

1040
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: pure you know, distillation of wine mom liberalism. That's what

1041
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: it looks like. Margarita's kickboxing classes, all of this. Once again,

1042
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 1: you know, I want people to be happy and live

1043
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: the way that they want. But the fact that she

1044
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: thinks a that that is the base of the Democratic

1045
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: Party is very revealing though. I mean, there's not a

1046
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 1: lot of working class black people hanging out at the

1047
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: Rumble studio getting their kickboxing on, or going to some

1048
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: fancy Mexican restaurant here at town, which is not even

1049
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: that good by the way, which you serve some ridiculous

1050
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: margarito with some mescal or whatever from it's been aged.

1051
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just giving you a taste of the

1052
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: lifestyle that these people engage in in a daily basis.

1053
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:07,919
Speaker 1: It's with the whole crunch Shaw think, and it can't

1054
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 1: live on one hundred and seventy kits. That's per exactly right,

1055
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: which is you put those together and you have elitism

1056
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: in its core, which is that that is who they

1057
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 1: think they are talking to. And I started turning in

1058
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: around in my head and in a weird way she

1059
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 1: told on herself, which is that the people who do

1060
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: care the most about the fights that they are engaging

1061
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: in voting rights and BBB, they are the elite class.

1062
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,240
Speaker 1: You know, they're the donor class who care the most.

1063
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 1: As you have said, you know, you can care about

1064
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: voting rights if you want, but go check every recent

1065
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: public poll. Nobody gives a damn right now. People want

1066
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: the economy to work, they want the price of gas

1067
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 1: to drop, they want stuff to be cheaper. You know what,

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Speaker 1: Seventy percent of people don't want Joe Biden to run

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00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: again because they don't feel as if he's meeting their needs.

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Speaker 1: And she speaks in the cultural lexicon of the people

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Speaker 1: who do care. The twenty percent or whatever care the

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00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: most about this stuff because the rest of the issues

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00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: that affect the lives of the American people are not

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00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,919
Speaker 1: represented here and their views. That is how I see

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Speaker 1: it as that that clip tells them, tells you everything

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Speaker 1: about who these people are. I think that Saroda said

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00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: it well when we talked to him last week that basically,

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00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: like voting rights without economic rights are completely meaningless. Like

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00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: what does it matter if you have the technical right

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00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: to vote when the only people you're allowed to vote

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Speaker 1: for just continue the same policies of the rich, Like

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00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: that is not real democracy. That's a fardcred million people

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00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: didn't vote Bristle in twenty twenty. That one hundred million.

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00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: That's like, cose play democracy? And we know, I mean

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Speaker 1: this is the data and statistics back it up. Representatives here,

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00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: by and large they pursue the interest of their wealthy donors,

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00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: not the general public. So, you know, just having voting

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00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: rights alone, it's not a solution for anything. And oh,

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00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: by the way, if you're worried about Republicans stealing the

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00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: next election, you can rest easy because they're on track

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00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: to win it fair and square without having to rig

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00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: a damn thing or change a single law. So maybe

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00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: focus on the things that would actually prove to people

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00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: that you have an agenda that's gonna better their lives.

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00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: From a material perspective, maybe focus on proven to people

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00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: that you actually are focused on their concerns, that you're

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00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: doing everything you can to make sure that it's not

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00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: just you know, the their wages going up except when

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00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: you take into account inflation, and then, oh, by the way,

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00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: you're more screwed than you've ever been. How about you

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00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: focus on some of those things and fight like hell

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00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: and put the margaritas in the kickboxing classes aside until

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00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: you get some things done for the Americanpeter the margarita thing,

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00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: and you know, all of it together. You know, people

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00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: just don't care what this president or as representatives are

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00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: engaging with, and everything they do is just classic I

1107
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: don't even know how to describe it, like cringe diplomacy.

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00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if you saw this. Jen

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00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: Psaki and them had the signs that they were holding

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00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: up saying I stand with Ukraine and tweeting it out

1111
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: like are are you not an active participant in the situation?

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00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: Like what is this just social media like diplomacy. You

1113
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: may seem I may seem as if I'm being nitpicky

1114
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: and all this, but I look at this as representative

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00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: of a broader problem with our elite class. Both Crenshaw

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00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: and her together very clearly either out for themselves or

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00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: just disregarding the vast majority of the people in this

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00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: country that they actually lead. That's the problem. Like there

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00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: are actual leaders. I know that's pathetic, but they are

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Speaker 1: three hundred and some million people who are being led

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00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: and spoken on behalf of by her, and she so

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00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: shows us clearly that she doesn't speak for the most

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Speaker 1: of us. Or they're blame shifting, and you know, it's

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00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: not their fault, it's the fault of people who didn't

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00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: fight hard enough, the activisty to do, the grassroots who

1126
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: didn't fight hard enough. That's you know, the blame all

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00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: lies with them. And when Democrats get trounced in the midterms,

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00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: to you know, a party that stands for literally nothing

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00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: except for continlling the sh continuing to show for corporate America,

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00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: they're going to have a thousands excuses lined up for

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00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: why it's never ever their fault. So somehow she manages

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01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 1: in this one little short clip to signal all of

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Speaker 1: those things, and it is incredible to watch. Thank you

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01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: jen Zaki for telling us who you are? All right, Sager,

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Speaker 1: what are you looking at well. There is perhaps no

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01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 1: more cringe event in this world than the World Economic Forum,

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01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: which was held annually at Davos, Switzerland. It has inspired

1138
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 1: some great memes online with their outlandish costumes. Often its

1139
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: agenda is mocked now my personal favorite being as world

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01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: billionaire is dressing up as refugees to try and get

1141
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: a day in the life. Feel for it, and then

1142
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: often their panels give us plenty to ridicule two. At

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01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: its heart, though the World Economic Form is a deeply

1144
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: sinister effort, there was a time not that long ago

1145
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: that at least the world's billionaire elite tried to hide

1146
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: their machinations behind closed doors. They were really weird clubs.

1147
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: There were clandestine meetings, behind the scenes, calls with world leaders.

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01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: But it was only in the mid two thousands, in

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01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: the nineteen nineties, with the codification of neoliberal policy in

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01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: the White House and across Europe, that they felt comfortable

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01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: enough to come out in the open and not only

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01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 1: push policy globally, but also be naked in their intentions.

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01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: That's all that I could really think about when I

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01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: saw one of the most stunning clips yet to emerge

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01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: from Davos, Let's take a listen. At Davos a few

1156
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:21,479
Speaker 1: years ago, the Edely survey showed us that the good

1157
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: news is the elite across the world trust each other

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01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: more and more, so we can come together and design

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01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: and do beautiful things together. The bad news is that

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01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: in every single country they were polling, the majority of

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01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: people trusted that elite less, so we can lead. But wow,

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01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: let that sink in. The good news is they trust

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01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 1: each other more. The bad news is that all of

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01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: us trust them less. It is really stunning to hear

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01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: it verbalized that way, given that I would reverse the

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01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 1: good and the bad news, but it's useful. Nonetheless, globalization

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01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: has brought a ruling global elite who are much more

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01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: comfortable with each other than with their own countrymen, and

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01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: this begets a global effort to make the system continue

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01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: to work for them and work less for all of us.

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Speaker 1: All of this occurred at this year's World Economic Conference

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Speaker 1: under the auspices of Kloud's Shop now, the leader who

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01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: famously last year released the Great Reset and is now

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01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 1: out with a sequel, the Great Narrative. Now, you might ask,

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01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: what is the Great Narrative? Well, like the Great Reset,

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01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: it is nebulous, but as they define it, it reads

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Speaker 1: quote a collaborative effort of the world's leading thinkers to

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Speaker 1: fashion longer term perspectives. CO create a narrative that can

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Speaker 1: help guide the creation of a more resilient, inclusive, and

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01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 1: sustainable vision for our collective future. Hmm, A whole lot

1181
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: of nothing, but enough there to parse collective food future.

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01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: CO create a narrative. In other words, a top down

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01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: effort by the Davos set to specifically set the agenda

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01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 1: and the outlook for the world, as they did with

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01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: the outbreak of globalization in the nineteen nineties. At its heart,

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Speaker 1: the Davos Project, the Great Reset and the Great Narrative

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01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 1: are anti democratic efforts to push back against nationalist and

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01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: populist outbreaks across Europe, Asia, here in the United States

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Speaker 1: and in South America. It is an effort to regain

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Speaker 1: the control over policy and democratic consensus that they had

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Speaker 1: in the nineteen nineties. In the mid two thousands, And

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Speaker 1: here's the thing, we absolutely cannot let that happen because

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Speaker 1: while that clip went viral, there were other moments of

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Speaker 1: the conference that did not get as much attention. Take

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Speaker 1: this one for example. I just would like to highlight

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Speaker 1: what you said about European chipsacked because it's an important

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Speaker 1: step to create sophistical brain for digitalization and to have

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Speaker 1: it located to a certain extent in Europe. Uh what

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Speaker 1: digitalization of the physical brain and have it based in Europe.

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01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: When most people talk about the need for more semiconductors,

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01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 1: like me, it's so you can buy more cars, have

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01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: more control over your future. And in fact, if you

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01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 1: read the press release from the Davos European Chips Act,

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01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 1: that's mostly what they say. But when Klaus Schwab says it,

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01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 1: he says we need it for the digitization of the

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Speaker 1: physical brain. As I have said in a previous monologue,

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Speaker 1: billionaires and their set are great at one specific thing.

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01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: That's how they became billionaires. But for some reason, many

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01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 1: of them think that mastery of that qualifies them to

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01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: speak on everything. It's part of that reason that so

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01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: many of them are eccentric and believe in some really

1212
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: weird stuff. I guess that's fine for them, good for

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01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: them for getting rich, but at least here we still

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01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 1: have some democratic control. And the problem is that our

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01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 1: elite set, as most typified by Davos, are so completely

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01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: divorced from the wants and the needs of the common

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01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: people that they are reporting to in these conferences, so

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01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: to come up with the agenda and then try to

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01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: force down upon us even though we have rejected all

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Speaker 1: of them. We have now rejected globalzation now in some

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01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: form in separate elections from here in the US to

1222
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: Britain to India. But let us not forget who remains

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01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: the greatest winner of so called globalization, and that's China. Now,

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Speaker 1: for those of you who have missed it, here how

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01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 1: lovingly and endearingly Klaus Schwab speaks of Chinese President Shishiping

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Speaker 1: when he opened the Davos conference. Literally, take a listen.

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Speaker 1: China has made significant economic and social achievements under your leadership.

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Speaker 1: It's the first three quarters of twenty twenty one. China's

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Speaker 1: economy gu by over nine percent. You have achieved a

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Speaker 1: historic goal to become a moderately prosperous society in all respects.

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Speaker 1: Mister President, I strongly echo your remarks in twenty seventeen

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01:05:55,000 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: sad mankind has made progress by zoe mounting difficulty and

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01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: then encountering difficulties. We should join hands and rise to

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01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: the challenge. I believe sins is the best time for

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01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: leaders to come together and work jointly force their world

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01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: to become more inclusive, more sustainable, and more prosperous. In

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01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, Klaus shop was right. COVID nineteen

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01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 1: kind of was the great reset. It put things into

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01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 1: perspective for millions of people. Some people decided that they

1240
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 1: simply hate their jobs and they're not going back. Many

1241
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: others quitting, taking new ones for higher wages. Many people

1242
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 1: said screw it, I'm staying home spending more time with

1243
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 1: my kid. A lot of us, myself included. You took

1244
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: stock of what really matters, and you try to reclaim

1245
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 1: your own destiny. The key part, though, is that it

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01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: isn't the reset mister Shap wanted at all. It is

1247
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: counter to the so called great narrative that is critical

1248
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 1: to him and his set remaining in power. And it

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01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 1: reveals to us that the structures that they have put

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01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 1: into place on the world world economic system need to

1251
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 1: be ripped down and actually reset. When the elites feel

1252
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 1: so comfortable saying the quiet part out loud, it is

1253
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: time to get some new elites and hopefully we are

1254
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 1: on our way there. I mean, can you believe that

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01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: clip where she's like, well, the good news is we

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01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: trust And if you want to hear my reaction to

1257
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: Sager's monologue, become a premium subscriber today at Breakingpoints dot Com, Cristal,

1258
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: what do you take a look at? Well, guys, Billionaire

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01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: Dallas Maverick's owner and Shark Tank guy Mark Cuban has

1260
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 1: a new entrepreneurial play and it's actually kind of interesting.

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Speaker 1: So Cuban is pushing forward a new online pharmacy called

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Speaker 1: the Cost Plus Drug Pharmacy, aimed at providing consumers with

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Speaker 1: a lower price on common prescription drugs. Basic concept is

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Speaker 1: fairly simple. It's kind of right there in the name.

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Speaker 1: Cuban's company plans to charge consumers cost plus a fifteen

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Speaker 1: percent profit margin on a whole range of generic drugs.

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Speaker 1: As a licensed pharmaceutical wholesaler, they say they can skip

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Speaker 1: out on all the middleman costs. They're also reportedly building

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Speaker 1: a pharmacuy factory in Dallas to produce some of these

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Speaker 1: generics themselves. That construction is slated to be complete by

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Speaker 1: the end of this year. Now, if Cuban's able to

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Speaker 1: provide drug savings to the public, that will be a

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Speaker 1: genuine service. Americans pay two to three times more for

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Speaker 1: prescription drugs than other rich nations, and the markup on

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Speaker 1: some of these generics is insanely outrageous. While most of

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Speaker 1: the outrageous price gouging on American consumers actually occurs in

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Speaker 1: brand name drugs, some generics are still rife with pricing

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Speaker 1: abuse and analysis a few years back found generic price

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Speaker 1: hikes of one thousand percent and even all the way

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Speaker 1: up to seventeen thousand percent, and disgracefully, of course, the

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Speaker 1: corporate wing of the Democratic Party is colluding with the

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Speaker 1: entire Republican Party to make sure that those prices stay

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Speaker 1: high and big farm of profit margins stay fat. Even

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Speaker 1: the most basic reform, allowing the federal government to negotiate

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Speaker 1: with drug makers, has proven too much for low lifes

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Speaker 1: like Kirsten Cinema. So listen, I am certainly all for

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Speaker 1: any effort to give the American people a little bit

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Speaker 1: of relief, even as I realize that behind every heartwarming

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Speaker 1: story of a billionaire doing good deeds lies a corrupt, monopolistic,

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Speaker 1: rapacious system rigged by those same billionaires. It's also not

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Speaker 1: like this is exactly charity fifteen percent is still more

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Speaker 1: than sufficient markup to score a healthy profit margin. And

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Speaker 1: according to Mark Cuban himself, backing this pharmacy is actually

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Speaker 1: an ideological play meant to persuade people that capitalism isn't

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Speaker 1: all about just triggering opioid crises and denying the poor

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Speaker 1: world life saving vaccines. In his words, he backed the

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Speaker 1: online pharmacy in order to show quote capitalism can be compassionate. Now,

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Speaker 1: there might be another reason for the play as well, though,

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Speaker 1: beyond attempting to reform capitalism's flagging image. Because I do

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Speaker 1: think Mark Cuban is a savvy guy, and this would

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Speaker 1: certainly be a pretty savvy play for someone who, say,

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01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: might be considering a run for high office. I'm a

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Speaker 1: special insight and whether Mark Cuban is toying with running

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01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 1: for present. But a few pieces here do seem to

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01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: add up Number one. You'd never know it from the

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01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,520
Speaker 1: total lack of interest politicians in Washington show to the issue.

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01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 1: Healthcare is consistently either the number one or number two

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Speaker 1: top issue for voters and has appeel across age, race, gender,

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Speaker 1: and partisan divides. The latest Economist YUGA poll has healthcare

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01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 1: ranked as the number one issue for voters higher by

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01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 1: a little bit, even than jobs and the economy. A

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01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,679
Speaker 1: full ninety percent of voters say it's an important issue

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01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: to them, and that's pretty stunning within that group. We

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01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 1: know that huge bipartisan majority support reforms that would make

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01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:35,600
Speaker 1: prescription drugs more affordable, So showing that your focus on

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01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 1: the issue would be a safe and pretty popular move

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01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:41,480
Speaker 1: to show, Yeah, he's a kinder, gentler reality show billionaire

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01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 1: than the last asshole. Second, Cuban has been pretty flirty

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Speaker 1: with Andrew Yang, and it's possible maybe he sees a

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Speaker 1: lane for himself in Yang's new Forward Party. During the pandemic,

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01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,759
Speaker 1: Cuban had a pretty solid and very yang Esque ideas

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01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 1: to take care of people while the entire economy was

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01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 1: shut down. You remember this, He proposed on Twitter that

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01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 1: every American household should receive one thousand dollars every two

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01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 1: weeks that had to be spent basically immediately to help

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Speaker 1: prop up demand in the economy. What's more, Andrew Yang

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01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 1: has left the Forward Party platform pretty open outside of

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01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 1: a few specific democracy reform ideas that I could easily

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01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,839
Speaker 1: see Cuban getting on board with. There's no billionaire taxes

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01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 1: or single payer healthcare, or even a specific UBI proposal

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01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: for candidates to have to agree to. Just things like

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01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 1: open primaries, ranked choice voting, and democracy dollars. Good reform, sure,

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Speaker 1: but nothing that would directly challenge billionaire power in the

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01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 1: immediate term or overturn the current regime of money in

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01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 1: politics that has made the notion that we live in

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01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 1: a democracy kind of cruel gaslighting. In other words, I

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01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 1: don't see anything in the platform that would really be

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01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 1: uncomfortable for someone like Mark Cuban capitalists through and through,

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01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 1: who's got enough smarts to know that they probably better

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01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,679
Speaker 1: cut the peasants a slightly better deal, or at least

1341
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: give them a better pitch if they want to keep

1342
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,879
Speaker 1: the pitch Forks at Bay. Finally, doesn't take a genius

1343
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: to sense a pretty significant political opportunity Right now. Both

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01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: of the likely nominees for the two major parties are

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01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 1: insanely unpopular. Just look at this. According to a new

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01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 1: ap nork Pole, only twenty seven percent of Americans want

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01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: Donald Trump to run for president again. And oh, by

1348
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 1: the way, Joe Biden does not fare any better. Only

1349
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:19,759
Speaker 1: twenty eight percent of Americans want him to run for reelection.

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01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,719
Speaker 1: Those numbers are crazy. It's a testament to how rotten

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01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 1: and destroyed elite Dems and elite Republicans are that the

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01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 1: best they can apparently offer is two old men that

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01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 1: three quarters of the country wish would just go away.

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01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 1: And for someone like Cuban, even a losing presidential campaign,

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01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 1: it could be a branding win good stroke cause ego

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01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: increases fame, provide him with new profit making ventures. Cuban Toyd,

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01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 1: you might recall, with running for president back in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Sager and I actually interviewed him about it. Then he

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01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 1: decided not to run any backed Biden. More recently, he

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01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 1: said he does not want to run for president, but

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Speaker 1: also that the reason he's no longer interested is because

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01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 1: he doesn't believe Trump will run again. So who knows.

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01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: A man's changed his mind before, he could certainly change

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01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 1: it again. Look, Cuban's politics are nothing special. It's mostly

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01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 1: just the status quote a different package. I would be

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Speaker 1: willing to believe he's more competent than the last two

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01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 1: bozos who won the presidency, but he's definitely not going

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01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 1: to upend a status quot order that has profited him

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01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:19,799
Speaker 1: personally tremendously. However, our politics are so stuck and hopeless

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Speaker 1: right now between two parties owned by corporations and costumed

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01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,600
Speaker 1: on one side in fake identity nonsense and on the

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01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 1: other side an aduled conspiracy nonsense that I am for

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01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: literally anything that would help or even have a chance

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01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,679
Speaker 1: of helping to break that system of bart. We can't

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01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 1: go on this way? Can we? Oscillating between these two

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01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 1: dried up huss that everyone hates and seems pretty unsustainable

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01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: to me? But there's also no clear path forward. The

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01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 1: only answer I can personally think of is more democracy,

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01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 1: more candidates, more choice, more engagement, more threats the existing

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01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:55,480
Speaker 1: power cartels. Cuban is not an answer in and of himself,

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01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 1: but maybe he could provide an opening for something that

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01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 1: genuinely could be. If Cuban wants to add his compassionate

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01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 1: billionaires stick to the mix, I guess I'm for it.

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01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 1: And if he's got a way to give American slightly

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01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 1: lower drug prices, well, the krup gools here in Washington

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01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 1: aren't getting it done, so I'm for that as well.

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01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 1: It's not exactly a ringing endorsement here, but I can't

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Speaker 1: muster a lot of excitement for our increasing dependence on

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01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: the whims of billionaires for everything from housing to meet

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01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 1: to affordable drugs. If there's one thing I know about

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01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 1: the bill billionaires, it's that they're not going to save us.

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Speaker 1: What did you think of this play from Cuban on

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01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:32,640
Speaker 1: the pharmacy Agar, I told you I mean and if

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01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 1: you want to hear my reaction to Crystal's monologue, become

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Speaker 1: a premium subscriber today at Breakingpoints dot Com. Joining us. Now,

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Speaker 1: we have an incredibly courageous animal rights activist. His name's

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Speaker 1: Matt Johnson. He is press coordinator for Direct Action Everywhere.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna let Matt tell the whole story, but the

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Speaker 1: gist of it is he helped to expose horrific abuse

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01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 1: of pigs at a pig farm in Iowa called Iowa Select.

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01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: It was charged by the government with terrorism for doing so,

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01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,639
Speaker 1: although those charges have just been dropped. Something that you'll

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01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 1: explain why you're actually somewhat disappointed about that. Matt. Welcome

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01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:12,799
Speaker 1: to the show. Good see you, Matt, Good morning. Crystalline

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01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 1: Saga A huge fan of the show and so happy

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01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 1: to be on. Thank you so Yet the situation began

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01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 1: when a truck driver with Iowa Select Farms. His name

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01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 1: is Lucas Walker. He contacted me and the animal rights

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Speaker 1: organization I'm affiliated with a direct action everywhere because of

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01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 1: the abuse that he was seeing in his company and

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01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 1: because no one at the company was addressing it, and

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01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 1: no one in law enforcement at the local level, at

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01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,600
Speaker 1: the state level was going to address it. And so,

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01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 1: long story short, you have this person who drives pigs

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01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 1: in and out of factory farms all day is contacting

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Speaker 1: an animal rights organization. And what we ended up exposing

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01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 1: ultimately was this just horrifying practice. Notice eventually shutdown. What

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01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 1: happened was in the spring of twenty twenty, COVID is

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01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 1: revaging meat packing plants throughout the country and workers are

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Speaker 1: getting sick, and they have nowhere to send the pigs,

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01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 1: and this corporation cost cutting measure does the cheapest option

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Speaker 1: available to it, and they load these pigs by the

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Speaker 1: thousands into these industrial sheds. They seal off the ventilation

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01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 1: and they pump and heat and steam, and these these

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01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:25,679
Speaker 1: poor animals are screaming for hours on end while they're

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01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 1: just tortured to death. And I exposed it, and I

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01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:34,560
Speaker 1: faced a felony prosecution and was there's an ABI investigation.

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01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 1: I was called a terrorist by multiple you know, government officials,

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01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 1: and we wanted to take it all away to trial.

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01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 1: What we found out was after a two year run

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01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 1: around with this case, the day before trial, they didn't

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01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 1: want to you know, this stuff to see the light

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01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 1: of day anymore than it already had, and they got

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01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:55,640
Speaker 1: the charges. That is really horrific. Let's go ahead and

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01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:57,600
Speaker 1: put the photo. We have one of them up on

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01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 1: the screen too. It's very important for you able to

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01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 1: understand exactly what you exposed and what you found. Now,

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01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 1: as you show here, this was a column that you wrote.

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01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: My arrest and a border prosecution underline three lies, Iowa

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01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 1: is propagating about animal agriculture. Tell us what those laes

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01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 1: are and then go into the go into the actual

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01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 1: mechanisms that we're used in order to try and prosecute you. Right. So,

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01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 1: so the three lies are number one, that that animal

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01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 1: abuse that is routine or normalized is acceptable. And so

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01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 1: in this in this instance, the industry, the animal agriculture

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01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 1: industry in many states, including Iowa, actually writes into law

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01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 1: that industry standards define the law industry standard practices, no

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01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 1: matter how cruel they are literally you have the industry

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01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 1: writing the laws. Now in many you know, in many contexts,

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01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 1: you have industries that are using a little bit of

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01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 1: a workaround and it's not quite so written into law,

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01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 1: but that's what it is. So things like you know,

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01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,919
Speaker 1: cutting animals tails off with no anesthetic, cutting animals testicles

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01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 1: off with no anesthetic completely you know, legalized under the law.

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Speaker 1: So that's number one. And number two lie that that

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01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 1: are that the state and this industry is selling us

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01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 1: is that the people who are documenting these crimes, such

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01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 1: as myself, are the criminals rather than the corporations that

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01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 1: are perpetrating these abuses. And Iowa is one of many

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Speaker 1: states that has passed these so called aggag laws which

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01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 1: just criminalize the active of documenting abuses in animal agricultural facilities.

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Speaker 1: And the third lie when when all else fails, is

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01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 1: that there's nothing here to discuss whatsoever. So when push

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01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 1: comes to shove, when their abuses have been exposed, when

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01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 1: their efforts to demonize someone like myself fall short and

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01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 1: it's about to go to trial, suddenly they don't want

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01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 1: to talk about it at all and they just want

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01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 1: it all to go away. So it's you know, uh,

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01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 1: just really, you know, top to bottom, a corrupt system

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01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 1: and a corrupt industry that people should be made aware of.

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Speaker 1: As to my prosecution, I was charged with with multiple

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Speaker 1: charges felony burglary charge for at one point I removed

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Speaker 1: a sick dying piglet it was of no value to

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Speaker 1: this company, and I faced up to five years in

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Speaker 1: prison for that. I was also charged under an ad

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01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 1: gag law. Yeah, and as I mentioned, there was an

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Speaker 1: FBI investigation. At one point, they approached this truck driver

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01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 1: who had came to us, and they threatened to prosecute him,

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01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 1: and they and under that threat, they attempted to get

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01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 1: him to wear a wire to come and inform against me.

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01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 1: They attempted to get him to sell drugs to me.

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Speaker 1: And this is a guy who's who's my friend now,

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01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 1: and he's put his horrible position where it feels like

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01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:54,759
Speaker 1: he's gonna get prosecuted by the FBI. Luckily he stood

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01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:57,719
Speaker 1: up to them and didn't do it. But just top

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Speaker 1: to bottom of shocking situation. Part of why your story,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of reasons your story really

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Speaker 1: interested us, but that's part of it is that you

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01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 1: know the FBI tried to flip this guy who gave

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Speaker 1: you this information about these horrific practices, and how basically

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Speaker 1: anyone who attempts to be a whistleblower and stand up

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Speaker 1: for what's right, the criminals they expose so they face

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Speaker 1: no accountability, but they throw the book at you know,

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Speaker 1: people like Julian Assange, people like Steven Donziger, people like

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Speaker 1: yourself and the truck driver who ultimately gave you this tip.

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Speaker 1: Why in this instance did they decide give us a

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Speaker 1: little more detail on why they decided to drop the

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Speaker 1: charges and why you actually wanted your day in court

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Speaker 1: to have this whole story out. Yeah. Well, if you

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Speaker 1: go off of what Iowa Select Farms will tell you,

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01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 1: they're completely hands off and you know, letting the system

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Speaker 1: do what it does. But I can tell you that,

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Speaker 1: you know, we saw many of the emails. Their lawyers

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Speaker 1: were extremely involved in really improper ways with the local prosecutor,

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Speaker 1: and they had a hand in this prosecution. I actually

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01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:06,680
Speaker 1: had a prior prosecution related to this case a year

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01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 1: ago that was dropped when the prosecutor said they didn't

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Speaker 1: want to testify. And you know, we all know the

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01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 1: fact of what's going on here They don't want this

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Speaker 1: stuff to see the light of day. They don't want

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Speaker 1: to testify about it. They want to accuse me of

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Speaker 1: terrorism and try to you know, scare me off, you know,

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Speaker 1: from the safety of you know, carefully manicured media releases

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Speaker 1: and send their government goons out to do their bidding

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Speaker 1: for them. But when it comes to an open court

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Speaker 1: of law, they they run away and hide. Yeah, you've

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Speaker 1: got them dead to rights. I mean that's kind of

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Speaker 1: the amazing part about this whole story. Matt. What should

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Speaker 1: people learn from the attempted prosecution of you, the silencing

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Speaker 1: some of the laws. What are some of the immediate

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01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:48,599
Speaker 1: steps people can do out there in order to help

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Speaker 1: your cause and people like you. Yeah, I hope that

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Speaker 1: the people feel heartened by this and feel that we

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01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 1: do have, you know, some measure of power to push

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Speaker 1: back against this kind of thing. I look at the

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Speaker 1: Stephen Donzigger's situation where you all were able to, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think, play a role and at least having him,

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Speaker 1: you know, not be sitting in prison. So, you know,

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01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:11,839
Speaker 1: if we come together and we show up in person

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01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,720
Speaker 1: and in virtual spaces and we get our message out there,

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01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 1: you know, we can still apply some pressure and achieve

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Speaker 1: some good results. So I encourage people to get active

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01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 1: in whatever way they're able to. That's well said, Mat. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and my last question for you, Matt is what brought

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Speaker 1: you to this issue with such passion, because I mean

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01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 1: you were ready, you were prepared to go to prison

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Speaker 1: for your beliefs and to expose these abuses and hopefully

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01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 1: to help push the cause of justice forward. What gave

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01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 1: you that particular, that passion and you know, gave you

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01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,719
Speaker 1: the courage to face what could be an owner of sentence.

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Speaker 1: Oh that is a great question, Crystal. I mean really,

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Speaker 1: I'd say it began as a child. I was kind

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01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:58,600
Speaker 1: of shocked it at this, you know, the kind of

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Speaker 1: the concept of eating animals. As a kid, it struck me.

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Speaker 1: But you know, growing up you kind of learn about

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Speaker 1: some of the dynamics and I think I kind of

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01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 1: take them, you know, to me. You look at it

1548
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 1: and there's just so many individuals you look at. I mean,

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Speaker 1: by the percentage ninety nine point nine nine nine percent

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01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 1: of sentient life on this planet is non human, and

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01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 1: the way these animals are being abused, and the you know,

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01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 1: tiny ount of representation they have, which you know, doesn't

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Speaker 1: take anything away from obviously all the human injustice that

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01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 1: exists in the world, but seems like, you know, extremely

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Speaker 1: worthwhile case, and I encourage people to obviously take pay

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01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 1: more attention to it. And do you think it's possible

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01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,959
Speaker 1: to have the reforms that you would want under a

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01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 1: capitalistic system? I mean, that's basically what this was about, was, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we treat these animals like commodities. They're cost burden on

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Speaker 1: us now that the meat packing plants are shut down,

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01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 1: so we're just going to kill them off and the

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Speaker 1: cheapest and easiest way possible. I mean, as long as

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Speaker 1: the profit motive is the only sort of guiding force

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Speaker 1: in society, are we going to get to a better

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01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 1: place here? Oh wow, another great question, Thank you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that we can. I think that the end

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Speaker 1: of the fundamental issue, and I'm sure there will be

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Speaker 1: some disagreement on this one, is this idea of commodifying

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Speaker 1: sentient life, particularly in a nation we have three hundred

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Speaker 1: million people with the consumption habits that we do. You know,

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Speaker 1: the cruel thing to be exposed in this case, of course,

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01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 1: was just beyond the pale, horrifying, but it really is

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Speaker 1: the product of an ideology which is animal exploitation, which

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01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 1: guarantees horrifying results. You look at but quick you know,

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01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 1: Costco has a five dollars rotisserie chicken, and anybody can see,

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01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 1: like look at the entire cycle supply chain there of

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Speaker 1: feeding this animal and transporting and processing and point of sale.

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Speaker 1: There's not much care there. But even if it was

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Speaker 1: a fifty dollars chicken, what would you know, what would

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Speaker 1: kind of care when fifty dollars buy for your dog

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01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:00,560
Speaker 1: and cat at home? That you would think is acceptable

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Speaker 1: for even a few months, Like even at fifty dollars,

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Speaker 1: that animal better have no health issues whatsoever, or it's

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Speaker 1: going to die probably in a horrible way. Or and

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Speaker 1: looking at the places where these animals live that they're

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Speaker 1: going to have health issues. So you know, I think

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Speaker 1: in this day and age, we have the impossible burgher

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01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 1: and you've had like cashew milk ice cream. There's so

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Speaker 1: many alternatives out there. I mean, at some point it's

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Speaker 1: like what are we even still clinging to here? Like

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01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 1: let's you know, let's let's move forward and innovate and

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Speaker 1: you know, find the best in ourselves. I think that's

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Speaker 1: a very uncomfortable conversation for a lot of people, myself included.

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01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 1: I put myself in that camp. But that's exactly why

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Speaker 1: we wanted to talk to you today. You know, we

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Speaker 1: talk a lot about challenging power on the show. Part

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01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 1: of what you're exposing an incredibly corrupt system IOWA select

1598
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,640
Speaker 1: massive political donations across the spectrum, getting to write their

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Speaker 1: own rules appears to be controlling prosecution or lack thereof.

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Speaker 1: So we really appreciate you spending some time educating our

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Speaker 1: audits and also for the courage that you've brought to

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Speaker 1: your activism. Thank you, Matt, Thank you so much. Absolutely sure,

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for watching. We really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing. You know, look, Crystal, we keep opening the kimono,

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01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:16,559
Speaker 1: so to speak. But the level of just weird stuff

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Speaker 1: that happens to our channel, it's difficult to describe. It.

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Speaker 1: Just so happens, you know, one of my monologues or

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Speaker 1: whatever just disappears or isn't put or into the feed

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Speaker 1: on Instagram, one of our videos it doesn't play. It's

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01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 1: always a reminder we're one step away from just being

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Speaker 1: taken off or demonetized. We get very little explanation as

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Speaker 1: to why these things happen to our content, I think

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Speaker 1: you can surmise for yourself. The reason is is that

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Speaker 1: we rely on you, and so because of that, we

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01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 1: have a premium link in the description. If you can

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01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 1: help us out, we deeply appreciate it. It It makes us

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Speaker 1: so that we cover every single one of these things

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Speaker 1: that we did today with no fear for retribution. Yeah, indeed,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you guys for enabling that and letting us

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Speaker 1: do the show that we think that you deserve to

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Speaker 1: the best of our abilities. So have a wonderful day

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Speaker 1: and we'll see you back here tomorrow s.