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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast, But he leaves and a

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Speaker 1: thing called loow. Just listen to the rythm of my Heart.

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Speaker 2: From the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's Around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: My name is Dan hansis got a hero here, Greg Rosenthal,

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Speaker 2: Mark Sessler just dudes a little bit more time. He's

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Speaker 2: getting closer to a return and also joining us. Greg

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Speaker 2: is the great. It's Wolf Wednesdays.

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Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf, Hell, what's up?

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Speaker 3: How are we doing?

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Speaker 4: Colleen? Colleen CALLI I like it.

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Speaker 3: Wow, this is amazing.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure the listeners love this.

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Speaker 1: There's so many, so many white boy overbites right now.

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Speaker 6: It's as if the John love It's character from Wedding

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Speaker 6: Singers made a song.

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Speaker 1: Just for you.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: He's losing his mine and I'm reaping all the benefits.

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Speaker 1: All right, it's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: That is John Judkins with a Connie Fox Miami.

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Speaker 3: Seems like John crushed it.

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Speaker 2: It's got a little bit of an epic crescendo to it,

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Speaker 2: a little purple rain vibe to it. All right, that's

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Speaker 2: enough of that. We told you guys to keep it

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Speaker 2: under the thirty seconds. Let's check out. Let's check out.

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Speaker 1: Another one. You got it?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, there's more.

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Speaker 2: Hey everybody, it's Colleen Walls.

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Speaker 7: Oh this is like a not like brand new, but

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Speaker 7: like a Fallout Boy.

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Speaker 3: Yellow card. Oh that's fun, punchy.

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Speaker 8: And he took the note to the thirty second note.

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Speaker 1: That was very nice.

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Speaker 2: That's Shane Burgess another Colleen theme. Keep them comming, everybody,

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Speaker 2: because you know they calm in all shapes and sizes

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Speaker 2: and and tones and feels.

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Speaker 3: Huh.

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Speaker 2: And I'm feeling pretty good about both of those. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: Shane and John.

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Speaker 7: I like the electric guitar one like I walk around

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Speaker 7: my house doing sound drops just of electric guitars a

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Speaker 7: lot like singing to my dogs.

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Speaker 8: So you're about yourself.

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Speaker 6: It's usually songs introducing yourself to the room.

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Speaker 3: Hello, coming up next breakfast?

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Speaker 2: So here we are, we got we got the the

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that's Marks Levi theme song, isn't it.

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Speaker 9: There's they're all just label guitar riffs, so some time

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Speaker 9: they get mixed up. You know, there's lots of guitar

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Speaker 9: riffs here that could be an ore you kidding me?

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Speaker 2: Rift there's a lot, and there are a lot of

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Speaker 2: This is the Wednesday edition of Around the NFL Hump Day.

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Speaker 1: Greg.

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Speaker 2: You shared with this privately that hump Day can sometimes

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Speaker 2: be challenging for you.

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Speaker 6: Well, you were trying to say that, I wasn't trying

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Speaker 6: to say vibe to me today, and I'm saying, yeah,

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Speaker 6: this is like a low energy It's it's an EBB day.

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Speaker 1: Different vibe a.

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Speaker 7: Little bit of because he's saying that he's low energy.

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Speaker 7: But he has been a little bit of an overachiever.

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Speaker 7: If you ask me already today he over ader.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps there was some on our messenging client. You were

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Speaker 2: doing some things, asking for things you usually don't ask for.

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Speaker 2: Then we had a lighting issue in the studio and

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Speaker 2: Greg hopped up and started hitting buttons trying to get

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Speaker 6: He showed me how to do the lighting for Monday night.

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Speaker 6: He sent out at power.

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Speaker 2: On, he sent out an interoffice memo about something, just

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Speaker 2: getting his hands around another end of our enterprise.

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Speaker 7: You've been he's active, he's guilt, he's morphing, into his

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's always there. I keep it under wraps,

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Speaker 1: Just think it easy, Bud. Everything's under control. Everything's good.

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Speaker 6: Dan's offended that I asked for a newsdrop. Apparently we

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Speaker 6: just don't normally do news on Wednesday, and we got news,

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Speaker 3: I think it's a good book.

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Speaker 2: It was outside your purview, typical purview, that's all. And

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Speaker 2: I wasn't offended by it, but I clocked it. It's like,

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Speaker 2: that's a little different. And then I get here and

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Speaker 2: you're a whole different person. You're all over the place today.

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Speaker 8: That's good. You want to be unpredictable and you are.

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Speaker 1: Wild card coming up a little bit later today.

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Speaker 2: And yes, because we have a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: different Greag today, I'm excited to see what he comes

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Speaker 2: up with when we talk about what you people don't

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Speaker 2: realize in the NFL. Right now, as we are now

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Speaker 2: heading headlong into the second half of the regular season,

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Speaker 2: we also will hit some of the primetime previews the

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Speaker 2: Island games. Connie, of course, the face and the anchor,

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Speaker 2: get a tight shot of this.

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Speaker 1: One she's got the library look going on today.

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Speaker 8: I have my library.

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Speaker 2: This is the face outside Thursday Night Football Coverage Network.

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Speaker 7: It does robocns moving in.

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Speaker 3: Don't happen.

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Speaker 7: Oh wow, I've seen like, I don't know five of

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Speaker 7: these and ten years I've worked here.

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Speaker 1: All right, So.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk Thursday Night Football, Talk, Sunday Night Football, Monday

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Speaker 2: Night football. But first, yes, we got a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a housekeeping in the news, big news.

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Speaker 4: Actually, here's what I would say for because I tell

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Speaker 1: And I'll give him an a word to say, put

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 2: That is from ninety seven to one in the ticket,

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Speaker 2: and that is of course Dan Campbell.

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Speaker 1: And I could give you some context on why he's saying,

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Speaker 2: Just know that he suggests that his family wears a

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that games are crazy, and you know he should

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Speaker 8: get it. Get a little crazy. You might be your bands.

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Speaker 1: See. I wasn't going to give the context, Greg jump.

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Speaker 8: I mean, what is the context again? Context?

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Speaker 2: I didn't have any initiative, Greg, He's on fire today.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna go poop. What's that from?

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Speaker 9: Some of these you just sit on and you sit

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Speaker 9: on and you wait. Now from it was a pooper

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Speaker 8: You could never have picked a better moment to use it.

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Speaker 1: That was sometimes you just hold through. I may never

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Speaker 2: Can leave the studio because you're not gonna be what

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Speaker 2: you just did there. Let's get to the news. Uh,

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Speaker 2: you know who's pooping their pants? And fear the Cleveland

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Speaker 2: for and a lot more than just their future is

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Speaker 2: out for the season. Deshaun Watson needs shoulder surgery after

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Speaker 2: the Browns. On Watson's injury, Deshaun Watson underwent magnetic resonance

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Speaker 2: imaging open parenthetical MRI closed parenthetical Monday on two injuries

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Speaker 2: sustained on different plays in the first half of Sunday's

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Speaker 2: magnetic resonance imaging. They didn't add it again, but it's

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Speaker 2: shoulder revealed a displace fractured to the glenoid, despite performing

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Speaker 2: with Brown's head physician James Booz, MD and industry leading

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Speaker 2: shoulder specialist Neil Ellatratch, MD, it had been determined that

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Speaker 2: hisn't I'm still reading by the way, that this injury

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Speaker 2: to Shawn will be placed on season ending injured reserve

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Speaker 2: and a full recovery is expected for the start of

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four season.

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Speaker 3: They need an editor.

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Speaker 2: Greg disastrous for the Browns, their playoff hopes for the

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Speaker 6: The statement was weird all the insistence and conversation from

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Speaker 6: last year, just pointing out how he played through pain

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Speaker 6: and all the details of this injury, and really like

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Speaker 6: I just don't know why, because no one's doubting that

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Speaker 6: But it just felt like it's it's pushing this whole

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Speaker 6: the Cleveland Browns and They're stuck in a really tough

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Speaker 6: in my mind, and an offense that's overcome a lot

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's such a bummer because that division is so good,

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Speaker 7: Browns are essentially mirroring the Steelers because they have a

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Speaker 7: good defense and the offense is not going to be

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Speaker 7: what's winning them games.

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Speaker 8: And well it wasn't to begin with Watson Sharmerfield.

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Speaker 7: As you said, They've overcome a lot throughout the season

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Speaker 7: thus far, and now they face the Steelers coming up

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Speaker 7: on Sunday. Both teams are six and three and a

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Speaker 7: So it is just such a bummer because Jim Jim

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Speaker 3: Make it very far. And I don't know what happens

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Speaker 6: The Browns, the decision to start DTR is pretty surprising. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Here's here's who I feel the worst about is for

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Speaker 8: A Mahomes or Josh Allen or any of those guys.

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Speaker 8: That didn't happen. And it's just a funny.

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Speaker 7: that all of the things that happened in last year,

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Speaker 7: the frustration with Stefan Diggs when he left that playoff game,

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Speaker 7: walked out.

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Speaker 3: Of the locker room.

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Speaker 7: They had to come and bring them back in because

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Speaker 7: McDermott wanted to address the team like it's just it's

450
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Speaker 7: not They're not a great team right now.

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Speaker 8: McDermott just seems so tight, you know.

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Speaker 6: And he was telegraphing this a little bit by down

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Speaker 6: talking Dorsey, you know, politely publicly before this week that

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Speaker 6: he wasn't happy, like that they needed to run the

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Speaker 6: ball more. But like it is something where it feels

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Speaker 6: like they are a disaster. But the numbers, for instance,

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Speaker 6: would completely disagree that they're literally first in the NFL

458
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Speaker 6: still in success rate like third and DVOA third, n

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Speaker 6: EPA per play. They just turned the third red zone efficiency.

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Speaker 6: They just turned the ball over like crazy, and it's

461
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Speaker 6: not like he's calling the fumble play.

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Speaker 2: A lot of the like Allan turnovers are on bad

463
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Speaker 2: decisions by the quarterback rather than scheme deficient.

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Speaker 6: Even those, I feel like they've been in such big

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Speaker 6: spots that there hasn't been that many. It'll you'll have

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Speaker 6: nights like the other night which are mystifying where Gabe

467
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Speaker 6: Davis has a drop that's an interception. Uh, and then

468
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Speaker 6: like Alan just drops the ball while he's handing it

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Speaker 6: to the running back. Like there's been like a weird

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Speaker 6: amount of like those like mystifying type of plays.

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Speaker 2: The throw by Allan at the end of the first

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Speaker 2: half just a terrible decision.

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Speaker 9: He had an interception that just got called back because

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Speaker 9: the guy's toe was on the line, but had a

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Speaker 9: double interception.

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Speaker 6: Here's the thing, though, when I thought now that we've

477
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Speaker 6: had a day to think about it, Ken Dorsey has

478
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Speaker 6: been in that building for five years. He was a

479
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Speaker 6: QB coach. Josh Allen's worked with him that long. Sean

480
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Speaker 6: McDermott hired him. He's worked with him that long. Like

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Speaker 6: these are humans that are interacting on a like very

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Speaker 6: intense le on a day to day basis at a

483
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Speaker 6: very high stress job. And I think that's a lot

484
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Speaker 6: of times more of the answer with stuff like this

485
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Speaker 6: than anything that would show up in DVOA. That these

486
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Speaker 6: these two humans, and it's McDermott's call humans. He didn't

487
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Speaker 6: want to work with Ken Dorsey anymore, he told us,

488
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Speaker 6: because he fired him. He just didn't want to work

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Speaker 6: with him. I don't know what the reason, Like, there

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Speaker 6: could be a myriad of not personal, but like reasons

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Speaker 6: that don't show up in just like how he's calling

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Speaker 6: the places. There could be a lot of reasons for that.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what they are. But McDermott wanted him gone,

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Speaker 6: Like maybe he didn't want to hire him in the

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Speaker 6: first place. The idea was Josh Allen kind of pushed that,

496
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Speaker 6: you know, very hard, that that was his pick. He

497
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Speaker 6: really wanted to keep be good, to be a guy

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Speaker 6: for whatever reason. Like they know each other about as

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Speaker 6: well as as you could, you know, being in that

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Speaker 6: building that long together, and he just he didn't want

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Speaker 6: him anymore. He had another guy, Joe Brady, that he

502
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Speaker 6: wanted more for whatever reason.

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Speaker 8: And he knows maybe a little like Frank Rag.

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Speaker 6: We talked about the other night, like, I don't know

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Speaker 6: if I feel that comfortable my job, Sean McDermott, even

506
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Speaker 6: though I got an extension, and I really feel strongly

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Speaker 6: I want to go out this way or not go.

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Speaker 8: Out at all.

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Speaker 7: I talked to Omar Ruiz after the game because he

510
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Speaker 7: was up there for it, and he said after the

511
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Speaker 7: game that Ken Dorsey he saw him walking out of

512
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Speaker 7: the building, and that he looked so despondent and disheveled,

513
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Speaker 7: and that Omar just kind of knew at that point

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Speaker 7: that something was up interesting.

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Speaker 1: I bet you didn't know that. Greg.

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Speaker 6: Actually I have Me and Omar were on a conference

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Speaker 6: call this morning, a debrief.

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Speaker 3: Initiative Command Center.

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Speaker 8: I do it with all the reporters.

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Speaker 1: Just said that I like minority report.

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Speaker 6: I've actually got to go soon. I've got Stacy Dale's

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Speaker 6: ten minutes.

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Speaker 2: All right, stay right there, Let's take a break, and

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Speaker 2: then we will talk about what you people.

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Speaker 1: Do not realize. All right, welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, everyone thinks they know what's going on

527
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Speaker 2: in our league, but you want to know the truth.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people don't know. A lot of people

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Speaker 2: think they know what's going on.

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Speaker 1: Greg Okay, that's fired. But Colleen, they don't uh uh no, and.

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Speaker 3: That's why we're providing a service.

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Speaker 1: Would you like to kick off this segment called what

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Speaker 1: you people don't Realize?

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Speaker 3: I would love to thank you very much. All right.

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Speaker 3: So everyone's talking about c J.

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Speaker 7: Stroud right now and rightfully so he's getting a ton

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Speaker 7: of hype and he deserves it all. But what you

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Speaker 7: people don't realize is how impressive Sam Howell has been

539
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Speaker 7: c J. Stroud. Let's just talk about it if we

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Speaker 7: compare their numbers.

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Speaker 8: So c J.

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Speaker 7: Stroud twenty two years old at this point, he's passed

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Speaker 7: for two thousand and six hundred yards, fifteen touchdowns, is

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Speaker 7: one fourth quarter comeback, and two game winning drives.

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Speaker 3: Incredible. He's been awesome.

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Speaker 7: He's even been thrown into not just Offensive Rookie of

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Speaker 7: the Year, but MVP. Sam Howell one year older, twenty

548
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Speaker 7: three years old, he's leading the league with twenty eight

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Speaker 7: hundred yards, seventeen touchdowns, two fourth quarter comebacks, two game

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Speaker 7: winning drives, and he's doing it behind the worst offensive

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Speaker 7: line in all of football. He was a fifth round

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Speaker 7: pick last year. I consider this season his actual rookie year.

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Speaker 7: So if we're talking about rookie quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Made one start last year in Week eighteen.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it doesn't really count. And in the off season

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Speaker 7: I felt like everyone was like Sam Howell, like what

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Speaker 7: what are we doing here? And clearly they saw this talent.

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Speaker 7: Now the team isn't really going anywhere this season, but

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Speaker 7: they have a nice piece at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 2: I think about what Ron Rivera said right before the

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Speaker 2: season started, talked about it on the show. I remember

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Speaker 2: they said, if I would have realized what we actually

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Speaker 2: had on our hands with Sam Howe last season, he

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Speaker 2: would have been playing way before he did. And then,

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Speaker 2: you know, sometimes a lot of times, almost all the time,

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Speaker 2: let's be honest, that's coach speak and tollow, and then

567
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Speaker 2: the player comes out and he plays like you know,

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Speaker 2: Desmond Ritter or one hundred other kind of mid round

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Speaker 2: or late round draft picks that teams pump up and

570
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Speaker 2: then reality strikes. But in this case, Gregy how has

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Speaker 2: gone out there, and Connie's right, I don't think people

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Speaker 2: have been tracking because Washington just kind of lays in

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Speaker 2: the weeds as an organization, and they've on balance had

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Speaker 2: a very typical Washington year where they're just kind of

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Speaker 2: in the middle. Not bad, not good, but he has

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Speaker 2: been very productive in counting stats are counting stats, and

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Speaker 2: they don't like. For instance, the game winning drives for

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Speaker 2: Stroud are way more memorable and impactful than Howels, which

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Speaker 2: I don't even recall at the top of my head.

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Speaker 2: And yet, and yet he needs to be credited and

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Speaker 2: observed in a way that's way more fawning and closer

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Speaker 2: to Stroud, closer, closer, not at the same level.

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Speaker 8: Right, Okay, and he did have that year.

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Speaker 6: I hear what you're saying, this is his rookie year,

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Speaker 6: but I think it's a big advantage to have that

586
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Speaker 6: year going through an NFL season and learning how to

587
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Speaker 6: be a pro and all that stuff.

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Speaker 8: But you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 6: He leads the NFL in plenty of stats because he

590
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Speaker 6: leads the NFL in attempts. And you can say, okay,

591
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Speaker 6: that's why he leads the NFL in yards. Yeah, but

592
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Speaker 6: he's also leading the league in attempts by seventy so

593
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Speaker 6: they put a ton and now part of that is

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Speaker 6: another by yet, but even attempts per game, he's well

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Speaker 6: ahead of anyone else. The next closest guys are Allen

596
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Speaker 6: and Burrow and Mahomes. It's like guys you can build

597
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Speaker 6: an offense around. So they've put a lot on his plate,

598
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Speaker 6: and it's led to some mistakes, no doubt, but he's

599
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Speaker 6: also handled it really well. Or a second year player,

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Speaker 6: he is the leader according to PFF in big time

601
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Speaker 6: throws this season Wow. And he's also right up there

602
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Speaker 6: in turnover worthy plays. I think he's he's fifth, So

603
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Speaker 6: that makes sense to me too, Like he's made some

604
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Speaker 6: big mistakes, but he can play, man, I'm with you.

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Speaker 6: Not not enough people have been really recognizing that at

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Speaker 6: the least he's going to be part of this show.

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Speaker 6: Dan god willing for us the next you know, because

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Speaker 6: you know me save it, save it.

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Speaker 8: But me and god In I haven't. I haven't believed

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Speaker 8: in him, but he believes in me.

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Speaker 6: Service He's going to be in this show for the

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Speaker 6: next eight to ten years. I just feel like it,

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Speaker 6: like we're like, I don't know what team, I don't

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Speaker 6: know how he's gonna be exactly, but he's just gonna be.

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Speaker 2: And even on that backhanded compliment that the show kind

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Speaker 2: of gives out, it's like an at in trope. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's played. He's gonna be in the league for a

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Speaker 2: bunch of years as a backup. It's like no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: he is I'll.

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Speaker 6: Call it a mainstream starter, more exciting Tannehill, but someone

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Speaker 6: that's just Tannehill's been in the mix the whole time.

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Speaker 7: And he's been sacked forty seven times this season. Then

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Speaker 7: it's not even close too. The next most sacked quarterback

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Speaker 7: is Zach Wilson at thirty three.

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Speaker 2: He needs and that's partly or even mainly on how

626
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Speaker 2: like he has to clean that up too, right, but

627
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Speaker 2: because he's going to get himself hurt, Like that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: And if he gets one more hit, his shoulder will

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Speaker 2: actually explode and go into outer space, says the reporting.

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Speaker 8: And he's been.

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Speaker 6: Improving I think the last two weeks against the Patriots,

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Speaker 6: in actually three weeks Eagles, Patriots, Seahawks, he's played smarter.

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Speaker 6: So that's good, you know, like you said, a first

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Speaker 6: time starter. I think he's showing progress as he goes.

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Speaker 6: He's getting better, all right, good start, good job calling.

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Speaker 6: Way to get the segment off on the right.

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Speaker 8: You understood the assignment.

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Speaker 7: Guess what I actually I'm making strides.

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Speaker 2: I think last time we did a segment with you, you

640
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Speaker 2: did something that was kind of mathematically impossible when you

641
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Speaker 2: forked an entire division.

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Speaker 1: So where this is time progress.

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Speaker 6: It's held up pretty well. I'm I'm ready to fork

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Speaker 6: the NFC South.

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Speaker 2: Well, we can't, though, somebody will be in the playoffs

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Speaker 2: unless we can push a rule through.

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Speaker 3: I'm an innovator.

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Speaker 1: I like it.

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Speaker 2: I've always thought that, all right, But you guys are

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Speaker 2: in over your heads because what you both in here

651
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Speaker 2: and out there. People don't realize there's no good teams

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Speaker 2: in the AFC.

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Speaker 1: Zero. Okay, I want you to pull up.

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Speaker 8: This is a gallaxy pull up. Don't realize this.

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Speaker 2: Pull up the conference standings and just start throwing throw

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Speaker 2: out some teams.

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Speaker 1: Each of you.

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Speaker 2: Throw out a team, Go ahead, and I'm gonna give

659
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Speaker 2: you for each team you throw out, three word explanation

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Speaker 2: that explains why they're actually not good.

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Speaker 6: The defending Super Bowl champion with the defending MVP Kansas

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Speaker 6: City Chiefs three words.

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Speaker 2: Taylor and Jackson, as in Taylor Swift and Jackson Mahomes

664
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 2: upgrades over their current skill players.

665
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: Next, well, okay, talk Ravens. Three words.

666
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 6: Even Greg knows what else I don't know, just to

667
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 6: you know, keep going, just to put it, you know,

668
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 6: a nice meatball over the plate here.

669
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: How about the Buffalo Bills twelve seconds curse?

670
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 3: Oh Jaguars, Yeah.

671
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: Right, What else you got?

672
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 8: Now you're making Eric work harder?

673
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: Keep going? What do you got?

674
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 3: Texans?

675
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: Texans nice recency bias?

676
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 8: What else? Dolphins?

677
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: Dolphins, classic bully behavior.

678
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, your team that you promised you would lock

679
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 6: up every week despite them giving you two lock losses

680
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 6: in a row, one when you picked against one when

681
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 6: you picked for him.

682
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 8: The Cincinnati Bengals, they keep losing. Okay, well that's Dolphins, Okay,

683
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 8: I said Dolphins.

684
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Steelers smoking mirrors, Browns, Dorian Thompson, Robinson through Dolphins.

685
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: Uh, classic bully behavior.

686
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: Everything They beat up on the fact, hit on the

687
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: playground and then get pummeled by the strong.

688
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 6: I mean, did you even I wonder if you even

689
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 6: wrote down quarterbout Los Angeles Chargers.

690
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: Uh? No, they're not even on They're not even on

691
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: this list.

692
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 8: All right, it's got to be the Chargers year.

693
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 6: I hear what you're saying, like everyone's got flaws. But

694
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 6: there was there was a podcast we did around week

695
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 6: nine or ten last year, where the title for the

696
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 6: recap was week like Week nine recap, Are there any

697
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 6: good teams? And it's like this happens in the middle

698
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 6: of this, But this year's teams have flaws.

699
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 8: And then by the end of the year, those teams.

700
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: Connecting to like the Browns talk from earlier in the show,

701
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 2: I think the Browns obviously took a fatal blow to

702
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: their Super Bowl hopes with the news today, but I

703
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 2: think because of the nature of the conference, yes, there's

704
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 2: absolutely a path to ten wins, and there's a path

705
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 2: to making a little noise in the playoff, and there

706
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 2: is a path to hope because this is a conference

707
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 2: that just does not have any teams where I look

708
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 2: at and I go, okay, I absolutely trust you. The

709
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: Chiefs are the closest one because of their pedigree, But

710
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 2: all the data that's staring us in the face and

711
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: the eye test that's staring back at us when we

712
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 2: watch their offense tells us they're trying to figure things

713
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: out and haven't been able to in half a season.

714
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 7: I think that's what makes it more exciting this year,

715
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 7: that all of the parody and because it doesn't seem

716
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 7: like there is a specific top tier. I mean, I

717
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 7: think that the Chiefs and the Ravens are still up there,

718
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 7: but there's not like some significant drop off because everyone

719
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 7: has had these like insane games, terrible losses, like weird upsets.

720
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 7: And I was actually thinking about you this morning, about

721
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 7: the AFC and a lot thinking about you. I was

722
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 7: thinking about how happy you must be that you're not

723
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 7: doing power rankings this year.

724
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: I couldn't even imagine.

725
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 2: Ok and you know, and just to elaborate, even Greg

726
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: knows for the Ravens, you know what's going to happen

727
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 2: to them. They're gonna get picked off in the playoffs

728
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 2: in a horrific.

729
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 8: Ways, just gonna I think this may be their year.

730
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: Hey, Eric, doc like log this.

731
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 2: So when they have an almost like unbelievable playoff loss

732
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 2: where they just like kick.

733
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 8: Away, I mean that happens to every team.

734
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: A specific type of loss, a raven Z loss.

735
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, go ahead, I mean you're you're talking

736
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 6: about the AFC.

737
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 8: Uh huh. But what you Philadelphia people.

738
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:33,959
Speaker 3: This is a shot from early.

739
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 2: You came back early and this is Greg movie thoughout

740
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 2: it and he said, Okay, now I'm coming.

741
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 6: I've been picking this team every week since the start

742
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 6: of last season. But what I've started to realize, and

743
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 6: what you you know, Philandering fanny pack wear, oh the

744
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 6: diagonal fan boneheads don't realize is that the Eagles defense,

745
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 6: especially their cornerbacks, are a problem. That they're not even

746
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 6: good right now. The ones that are healthy are not

747
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 6: playing well. They are nineteenth overall in EPA this year.

748
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 6: Their defense, they are twenty second in past defense according

749
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 6: to DVOA. And you say, oh, they're injured in the middle.

750
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 6: Last year went to the PFF Ringings. Their top three cornerbacks,

751
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 6: Slay Bradbury of Anti Maddox who's out for the year,

752
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 6: all top thirty out of the qualifiers. It was like,

753
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 6: that's side of one hundred and fifty. This year, Slay,

754
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 6: he's been okay, fifty ninth. That's your lead, Bradbury. We

755
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 6: gave him a ton of money. He hasn't exactly shaken

756
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 6: off that penalty had in the Super Bowl.

757
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 8: He's been struggling eighty seventh.

758
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 6: Anyone else on the list that you put in the

759
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 6: middle that they've tried out, Josh job or Eli Rix

760
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 6: or whoever has been out there. Bradley Roby off the

761
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 6: street they're just buried. They're so low they basically don't compute.

762
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 6: But they're at the very bottom. They can't cover right

763
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 6: now on the outside, and you don't realize it.

764
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 3: Connie, are you picking against the Eagles this week?

765
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 6: I am, Wowsie, I am. I mean they're playing the

766
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 6: Chiefs on the run.

767
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: I don't remember you doing that.

768
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 6: I have not picked against the Chiefs, I mean against

769
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 6: the Eagles, and I still think they can win the

770
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 6: Super Bowl. But this defense, I just think they haven't

771
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 6: played the right opponent to like expose it necessarily. But

772
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 6: the defense has been it's left me wanting, especially the

773
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 6: past defense you want.

774
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 7: I don't love this vibe, but I see it. I

775
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 7: understand it. Like they also have a new defensive coordinator

776
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 7: this year. I don't know if that has anything to

777
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 7: do with it, but you're right, the back end has

778
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 7: not been as good. They still have a great pass rush. Yeah,

779
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 7: looking at the sacks that they have so far the season.

780
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 7: I know it's not all about sacks, but they have

781
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 7: thirty sacks so far the.

782
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 3: Season through nine games. Last year they had twenty nine.

783
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 6: It's everything else, even the linebackers who actually grade out

784
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 6: decently well and I think they've been coached up pretty

785
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 6: well this year. They're not as good as the linebackers

786
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 6: from a year ago edwards, And so I'm gonna let's

787
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 6: look at the ages here.

788
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 8: That's what I want to do, all right.

789
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 6: Kevin Bayard born a long time ago, eighteen seven. Darius

790
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 6: Slay born in ninety one, too long ago, thirty two

791
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 6: years old. James Bradbury, if you were born when I

792
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 6: was in high school, Uh, it's a problem. Ninety three,

793
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 6: thirty years old. Kevin Bayard, he is in his thirties.

794
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 6: I'm just it's just like an aging. They're all kind

795
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 6: of getting worse at the same time.

796
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 7: Oh God, and the Chiefs defense is really good right now.

797
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 7: So I don't love that. But we'll talk about that, serio.

798
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, I thought I was stepping on it,

799
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 6: and this was the one I felt strongest.

800
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 2: And we all know the Eagles nearly won and last

801
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 2: year's Super Bowl or bust. And in terms of the

802
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: top offenses in football, you got the Dolphins in the AFC,

803
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 2: but then you got the Cowboys, you got Detroit, you

804
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 2: got San Francisco. You got to get through the playoffs

805
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: and if you have some of these high octane passing games.

806
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: Be careful, Connie, careful.

807
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 3: I'm ready for me.

808
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: Be careful. Okay, you're up, give us another one.

809
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 3: Okay, let's see here. I didn't I thought you aren't?

810
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 8: You up?

811
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: I go second? You want me to go?

812
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 8: They always go back? Is that a thing?

813
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: Just mixing it up?

814
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 3: Okay, here we.

815
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 1: Go, start talking.

816
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: People are listening, tens of thousands I have.

817
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 3: I have a few different ones.

818
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 7: But I what you people don't realize, and maybe maybe

819
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 7: some do, but at this point, what you people don't

820
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 7: realize is how close the Bengals are to actually missing

821
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 7: the playoffs.

822
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 3: They right now are on the outside looking in.

823
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 7: They lost their head to head against all three a

824
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 7: f C wild card teams that right now, and then

825
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 7: they're ozero and two in the division. They're one and

826
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 7: four in the conference, and they have the most difficult

827
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 7: remaining strength of schedule in the entire.

828
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: League, really even more than the Bills. Yeah, wow, that

829
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: is well.

830
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 8: They played execation. I didn't realize all that.

831
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had a bunch you could have chosen, and

832
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: they all would have been inferior to that one.

833
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: So you you've done it.

834
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 3: You know what assignment understood.

835
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 6: I did see ESPN sent out that thing where you

836
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 6: have playoff odds, right, and they lowered the Browns playoff

837
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 6: odds as of you know, the Watson injury, and they

838
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 6: were showing how other teams increased. Yeah, and it showed

839
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 6: how the Bengals increased from like thirty three to thirty

840
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 6: six percent, and I was.

841
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: Like one and three chicks. What Now.

842
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 8: Part of that is.

843
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 6: They're they're they're baking in some of the bad offensive

844
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 6: stats that happened when Burrow was injured. So I don't

845
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 6: think that's totally accurate. But you know, they're an underdog

846
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 6: this week, and then they would be five and five.

847
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: Wow.

848
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 2: You know, here's the thing. It's a great one, Connie.

849
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 2: They put themselves in a hole and it wasn't all

850
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 2: their fault. The quarterback was not healthy. But when you

851
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 2: lose three or four to start the season, you got

852
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: a lot of work to do. And they won four

853
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 2: in a row. But that was a very I mean

854
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: that drop. I want to talk about sliding doors, the

855
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: Boyd drop. We don't know if they would have hung

856
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 2: on for the win, but if they missed the playoffs,

857
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: remember that. And now a huge game on Thursday.

858
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 3: I have I have something to say about the Tyler Boyd.

859
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: Do you want to you want to save that for

860
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: the preview?

861
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 2: I will polster that one, ulster that one, because what

862
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 2: you people don't realize and it's it astounds me that

863
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: you wouldn't even think of this because you do this

864
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 2: for a living, and it's like, don't you see anything

865
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 2: besides what's right in front of you?

866
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: Like how do I even work this way?

867
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: We could be looking at a historic bloodbath on Black Monday.

868
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 2: Here are here are coaches that you could you could

869
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: say are in some level of peril. From incredible peril, two.

870
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 8: Sneaky peril. Okay, I can't have a sight of peril.

871
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: All right, and let's start with the name that already

872
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: came up, Sean McDermott.

873
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 6: Okay, I got it out, did sign an extension before

874
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 6: the season.

875
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 8: But a little bit of peril.

876
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: Bob Sala, a little bit of peril, A little guye

877
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: on it.

878
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 8: I don't think that's keeping.

879
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 1: This is.

880
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm hearing right now. I'm not

881
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 3: sure about it.

882
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 6: It's not just it's not just the coaches, you know,

883
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 6: it's here we goes Okay, go ahead, families.

884
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's it's ricky, But I don't care.

885
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 6: Who's wanting to finish his second semester at Eric Tempos

886
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 6: Lincoln Middle School.

887
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 3: The contracts guaranteed, they're still getting paid.

888
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 8: Sure, but they're gonna have to have the assistance. I

889
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 8: think there's like I don't care.

890
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: Bill Belicheck, okay, and we believe it.

891
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 2: Brandon Staley, okay, Ron Rivera, Okay, Brian Able, I don't

892
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: think so, but okay, you know sneaky peril, Matt Lafleur,

893
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: Matt Eberflus, Dennis Allen, Todd Bowles, Arthur Smith, Frank Reich,

894
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: NFC South clean sweep of hot butts, melting butts and

895
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: the tired division melted down.

896
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 8: Will win the division and then be safe.

897
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 2: But yes, and I'll and I'll throw in the Cardinals

898
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 2: head coach. No way, I don't trust the organization. How

899
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 2: about that that's a lot of names, and that is

900
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: thirteen coaches, and that it typically is between six and

901
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 2: eight every year. That's thirteen and it would not surprise

902
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: me if at least eight go and maybe double digits.

903
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 6: And you're not even including McDaniels, who's already gone. And

904
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 6: Pierce's Antonio Pierce, the entering coach, actually feels like he

905
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 6: has a chance to win that die. But that could

906
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 6: be another one that that changes hands again too.

907
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 3: I saw this stat this morning.

908
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 7: In their past twenty games that day, Ball and Reike

909
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 7: have the same record four fifteen and one including the playoffs.

910
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's rough. Wait dable, Yeah.

911
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 8: Because they and did last year poorly.

912
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of butter knifing that a little.

913
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 3: Bit of stats to tell a.

914
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 1: Story, tell your own story. But Dab did. Yeah, Dabel

915
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: did have a great first year.

916
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: In fact, he's the reigning coach of the year, so

917
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 2: he's I would say, of the list of the ones

918
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 2: I would say are the safest, I was gonna say McDermott,

919
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: but they.

920
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: Missed the playoffs.

921
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: No, I think he's probably safe, but McDermott, Dabel, probably,

922
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: Leaflorzo okay probably, and then gannon is is more just

923
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: I think he's probably safe. But all those other guys,

924
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 2: I think are they really need to.

925
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 6: Not create And and you're right, there's always a surprise

926
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 6: that you don't see coming that might not even be

927
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 6: on that list, or maybe was one of the ones

928
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 6: we just said we're safe.

929
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 2: It makes a lot of sense, all right, uh, Greggy,

930
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: And no, I don't endurese fired in any way. This

931
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: is their livelihood, but this is our job and people

932
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 2: should respect that as well.

933
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, And what people don't respect is sometimes the tape.

934
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 6: They just get their takes from the takesman. I walked

935
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 6: through the newsroom and I see ridiculous lower thirds on

936
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 6: various takes shows. He's talking with just ridiculous things. I

937
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 6: was thinking more Fox actually Fox Sports. There was one

938
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 6: yesterday that said, like la Is Dashaun Watson's contract not

939
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 6: a bad thing or so, it was something just stupid.

940
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 8: I don't remember it was. It was a dumb thing,

941
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 8: which day later doesn't look good.

942
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 6: But what he's totally irrelevant, ignominious, ignoramus don't realize a

943
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 6: lot with initiative, is that Jordan Love has been turning

944
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 6: the corner the last couple weeks. I mean, this is

945
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 6: not the largest hill that I'm gonna die on. It's

946
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 6: a small hill, but it's the Jordan Love has improved

947
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 6: over the last two weeks, and I hope it's a

948
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 6: start of something. I think his two best games of

949
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 6: the season have been in a row and This last one,

950
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 6: in particular, was the Jordan Love I was hoping to

951
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 6: see coming into the season, which is, yes, a couple

952
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 6: plays you would have liked to talk to him about

953
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 6: what were you thinking there? But also four to five

954
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 6: beautiful big time throws. And it goes to show you

955
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 6: when you get a little bit of pass protection, you

956
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 6: can play football at a much higher level.

957
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 8: And he's gotten protected the last couple of weeks.

958
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 6: I think you've seen good decision making, good throws, and

959
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 6: maybe it's not too late to turn this battleship around

960
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 6: and have a positive first full season as a starter.

961
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 6: Five big time throws last week, a lot of plays

962
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 6: down the field. Sometimes his teammates left let him down

963
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 6: a little bit, and I thought he played well week

964
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 6: before too, So it's it's something.

965
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 8: It's a start. But the people aren't watching them, Yeah,

966
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 8: because they're telling.

967
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: You, you know what, because the Packers are three and six.

968
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 8: No, I get it. The book's been written on him,

969
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 8: But this.

970
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 2: Is what I should not be written on because he

971
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: is you know, not even you know Sam Howell. We're

972
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 2: talking about it is he should he be viewed as

973
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 2: a rookie Jordan Love. This is his first real season,

974
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 2: and and look at Aaron Rodgers.

975
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: Look at Aaron Rodgers first year with the Packers.

976
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 2: He started out with a lot of potential, obviously, but

977
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 2: he wasn't winning MVPs immediately.

978
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 1: It took years. It took a year for him to

979
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 1: you know, cook and develop. So Packers fans aren't used

980
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: to this.

981
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're not used to the public's not used

982
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 2: to the Packers being close to irrelevant before Thanksgiving. But

983
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: they are on a whole different track right now, which

984
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: is developing a young quarterback and there's growing pains there.

985
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 7: I would love for Justin or for Jordan Love to

986
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 7: be on the same page as Christian Watson again the season.

987
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 7: It just feels like there's disconnect there. They're trying, it's

988
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 7: just not from the end zone.

989
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 6: I feel like playing with Aaron Rodgers, who was able

990
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 6: to accentuate what Watson does well, is gonna make like

991
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 6: how people look at the rest of Watson's time maybe unrealistic.

992
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 6: Right now, You're right, he's not one of the best

993
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 6: two or three ride receivers on that team.

994
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: All right.

995
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: That was a good app I thought it was a

996
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 2: good sag of what you people don't realize because I.

997
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 8: Think we help people, we made them realize it.

998
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: Great about that.

999
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: Seg Let me hear the short Connie song again. It's

1000
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 2: got like a blink late nineties vibe.

1001
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 3: Maybe Fallout Boy Yellow Card right, Let me a little.

1002
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: A little less than Jake.

1003
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what I I couldn't think of the name

1004
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 8: of it. Yeah, it's Colleen Wolf.

1005
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 10: This is when I was skateboarding, surfing, yeah, parasailing, hang gliding, skydiving,

1006
00:49:58,760 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 10: just all extreme.

1007
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: Sports the sea.

1008
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 8: Yeah, I could say, did you ever own a pair

1009
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 8: of airwalks?

1010
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 3: My god, I had a brown pair. Yes, I have

1011
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 3: like the bowling shoes, stuicy shirts.

1012
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: Giant pants. How big were the pants?

1013
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 3: They were huge.

1014
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 7: They were like James Harden a couple of years ago,

1015
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 7: if you remember when he showed up.

1016
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 2: At the game wearing We had our conversation about the

1017
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 2: the ruffians connected to your school, like they were called

1018
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 2: the skids as I brought up, you wore airwalks.

1019
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: If you were a skid.

1020
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was friends with the skids.

1021
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the skaters and stuff like that.

1022
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, although putting the skaters in the same category as

1023
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 2: the skids is unfair. The skids were more like I'm

1024
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 2: gonna wear a Metallica shirt every day and throw snowballs

1025
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 2: at the underclassmen. Whereas the the skaters were more just like,

1026
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 2: you know what the skaters were doing. Yeah, they were

1027
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 2: less aggressive. Put it that way. They were a little

1028
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 2: more docile. For whatever reason, I don't know why.

1029
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: Colleens very docile.

1030
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 2: Let's get into the primetime games.

1031
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 8: We got two corkers, two of the games of the

1032
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 8: year so far.

1033
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 2: All right, let's start with a great one on Thursday

1034
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: Night football. We've been talking about Cincinnati and how close

1035
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 2: they are. Connie pointed out rightly to being in serious

1036
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 2: peril themselves of missing the playoffs, which would be, like

1037
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 2: the Bills, an absolute travesty for their fans, because this

1038
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 2: team is expected to go all the way by many,

1039
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 2: and yet here they are at five and four, coming

1040
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 2: off a crushing last second loss to the Texans, and

1041
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 2: now they get the Ravens at home. And Connie, this

1042
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: is on Thursday Night Football.

1043
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: You can watch it on Prime Video, but.

1044
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 2: Check out the NFL Network coverage all night that Connie anchors.

1045
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 2: The Ravens are coming off a crushing loss of their own.

1046
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: We mentioned it. The Browns knock them off in stunning fashion.

1047
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 2: So if you're the Bengals, like are you, does that

1048
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: make you more nervous or does that make you more confident?

1049
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: Thinking? Man, this team does seem to find a way

1050
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: to lose every once in a while.

1051
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 7: I just think that it's this game is our Thursday

1052
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 7: Night super Bowl.

1053
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 3: We have had so many games that you.

1054
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 7: Really I've worked so hard to sell and you know

1055
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 7: what the.

1056
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 6: Next game is though, it's Seahawks Cowboys. So that's actually

1057
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 6: a pretty good one too, not as good as this,

1058
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 6: but it's good.

1059
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: We needed a double palal cleanser after last.

1060
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 7: Thursday, last Thursday, the International Game, Monday Night, all of them.

1061
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 7: So but this is the stakes are through the absolute roof.

1062
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 7: It's the most competitive right now, toughest division in the NFL.

1063
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 7: With Deshaun Watson going down, that sort of changes things,

1064
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,439
Speaker 7: but it's still super competitive and such a tight race.

1065
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 7: They're both super Bowl contenders, they're both coming off of losses.

1066
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 3: It's two musty quarterbacks.

1067
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 7: Both teams considered probably among the best in the league. Still,

1068
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 7: even with the Bengals struggles, so uh. The offensive coordinator

1069
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 7: for Cincinnati, Brian Callahan, he said that this our feels

1070
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 7: like a playoff game in November, and it really really does.

1071
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 3: There's so many different ways you could go with this.

1072
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 7: Joe Burrow, the two interceptions that he had against Houston

1073
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 7: were so Unburrow like because he never usually throws an

1074
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 7: interception that late in games, and he never he's really

1075
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 7: careful with picks.

1076
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 3: In the end zone. It usually never happens.

1077
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 7: So the overthrow to Drew Sample there was the easy

1078
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 7: interception in the end zone while he was scrambling around.

1079
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 7: But the only other he had, Let's see, he threw

1080
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 7: the one interception all of last season in the red

1081
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 7: zone and the two that he had this year. The

1082
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 7: first one came against Baltimore in Week two. So these teams,

1083
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 7: obviously they play each other so close because they know

1084
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,959
Speaker 7: each other so well. I have a whole Tyler Boyd

1085
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 7: thing I want to get into, but I'm so excited.

1086
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 1: We're still building to.

1087
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 6: We're just going to keep teasing it forever. I think

1088
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 6: the Ravens are a matchup problem for these Bengals, and

1089
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 6: I think last year really pointed it out that the

1090
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 6: Bengals needed a defensive score to win that playoff game.

1091
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 8: With Tyler Huntley in the mix.

1092
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 6: Even if you remember that Week eighteen game where they

1093
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 6: played against each other, it's nip and tuck. I think

1094
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 6: did the Ravens get them once last year? I'm forgetting,

1095
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 6: but they I think do well because up front the Bengals,

1096
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 6: when I watched them last week, it's like the offensive line.

1097
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 8: Is still a problem.

1098
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,439
Speaker 6: It's like all this investment that you've had and they

1099
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 6: really lost that game. I thought last week upfront, on

1100
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 6: both sides of the ball, the Bengals did to.

1101
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 8: The Texans, which was pretty surprising to me.

1102
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Speaker 6: And I think the Bengals play a defensive coordinator in

1103
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 6: Mike McDonald who's so good at scrambling smart quarterbacks, which

1104
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 6: is exactly what Joe Burrow is in terms of changing

1105
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 6: the look, looking the same before the snap and then

1106
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 6: after the staff changing it up. And yeah, I remembered right,

1107
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 6: it was a nineteen seventeen game in Week five last

1108
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 6: week that Lamar Lamar wasn't in that game, But the

1109
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 6: Ravens won that game. So I think it's been a

1110
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 6: tough matchup and I think part of it is a physicality,

1111
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 6: Like not to get all AFC northy, but who's tougher,

1112
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 6: Like who's bigger and stronger, and I think I trust

1113
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 6: the Ravens a little more on that front, on both lines.

1114
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: And I wanted to this, by the way, get ready ready,

1115
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,280
Speaker 1: just like be ready coming, it's coming.

1116
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 2: I want I talked about I flirted with, you know,

1117
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 2: getting staying on the Bengals train here with the Locks competition,

1118
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 2: but I was t Higgins is going to miss another week. Okay,

1119
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 2: so Higgins is out, Chase is he was very productive

1120
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 2: but banged up going into Sunday's game, and now he's

1121
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: got a short week against one of the most physical

1122
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 2: teams in the league. It's a bad setup. And then

1123
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 2: you have the yes, Tyler Boyd of it all, who,

1124
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 2: as I mentioned, had a killer drop that might could

1125
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 2: ruin their season.

1126
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: You never know.

1127
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,720
Speaker 2: In and sun is loss, they need him to step

1128
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 2: up and be that guy. And I guess I'm a

1129
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 2: little shook because he certainly wasn't that guy on Sunday.

1130
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 3: Okay, Tyler Boyd, Yes.

1131
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:10,959
Speaker 1: Wait, stay right there.

1132
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 3: Oh my god, this it was a bad mistake.

1133
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 7: The drop, no doubt, would have won the game maybe,

1134
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 7: But let's just talk about here that Boyd has two

1135
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 7: drops over the past two seasons in this game, he

1136
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 7: caught eight passes. He was responsible for five first downs

1137
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 7: with those passes. In the sixty four yard catch and run,

1138
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,919
Speaker 7: they wouldn't have even been in that spot for him

1139
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 7: to drop the ball without that play that he made. So,

1140
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 7: like everyone, with all of these takes and all of

1141
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 7: the criticism that's going towards them, towards him, I just

1142
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:47,439
Speaker 7: don't think it's totally fair.

1143
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: If he could run twenty one miles peror he would

1144
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 1: have scored on.

1145
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 6: That sixty And he hasn't been on the same page

1146
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 6: at times with Burrow this year. He's definitely having his

1147
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 6: worst season with the Bengals. He's in a contract year.

1148
00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 6: Higgins has been in a contract year, So I think

1149
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 6: it was just like it hasn't been clicking totally. But

1150
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 6: you're right, he had a good game before that, and

1151
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 6: he's been getting better each week. And Marlon Humphrey is

1152
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 6: doubtful for this game. So the Ravens, who like finally

1153
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 6: got healthier again with all their guys, then they lose

1154
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 6: Ronnie Stanley, He's out this week, their left tackle y,

1155
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 6: and so I think it's Patrick McCary steps in.

1156
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 8: They've been goods.

1157
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson's health he was being.

1158
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 6: Trey hendrickson practice this week. I think he's listed as questionable,

1159
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 6: but that's actually a little surprising, how Sam Hubbard Right,

1160
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 6: So there are a lot of injury issues for both teams.

1161
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 6: You would kind of expect at this point in the season,

1162
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 6: but it's unfortunate.

1163
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 8: You lose the game, you lose players. I see something

1164
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 8: building here? What is happening?

1165
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 2: Wait a second, I just flashed back to on the

1166
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 2: NFL Plus atn Game of the Week joint the Super

1167
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 2: Salty like wildly upset and annoyed Joe Burrow press conference

1168
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 2: after the game, we play a little clip of that's.

1169
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 3: Probably one more frustrating losses.

1170
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say that, Why is it so frustrated.

1171
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:08,439
Speaker 1: When you watch the game?

1172
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 5: Does it feel different at this point this year with

1173
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 5: how just close everything is in the division in the

1174
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 5: AFC right now in terms of the margin for air.

1175
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, we would like to win this one, that's for sure.

1176
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 2: I believe in Joe Burrow, and I understand the Bengals

1177
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 2: have let me down in this picks competition this year

1178
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 2: and I am way back, But at what point what

1179
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: do I have to lose? Like, if I can get

1180
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 2: behind an angry, annoyed, pissed off Joe Burrow, which is

1181
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 2: what you just listen to. There is no way Joe

1182
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 2: Burrow gets beat in this primetime stage. In fact, he

1183
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 2: is going to light up the Ravens and I'm gonna

1184
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 2: lock it up to.

1185
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: Burrow is one of one. He's one of those dudes.

1186
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 2: He's one of those special players that has the not

1187
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 2: just the ability, but the charisma and the guy that

1188
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 2: gets bigger in the big moments. And this is a

1189
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 2: huge moment for this team that can not afford to lose.

1190
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 2: And Greg, I know it's kind of you know, the

1191
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 2: type of talk that hardcore football heads and analytics people hate.

1192
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 2: But the Ravens could survive a loss. They're seven and

1193
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 2: three right now. The Bengals they might not be able

1194
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 2: to They need this game more than Baal Tame.

1195
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 8: I believe in that.

1196
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 6: I do believe there is something to which team needs

1197
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 6: it more makes a difference in a long regular season.

1198
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 6: It's why I think a lot of times you see

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00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 6: really good teams respond really well after.

1200
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: But then people always come back to oh, so, I

1201
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: guess the Ravens will be trying.

1202
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 6: No, Well, who's the people I'm the people, But I

1203
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 6: think on a global level, like you see that, the

1204
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 6: problem is both teams are coming off brutal losses. So

1205
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 6: I don't know if that equals it out a little

1206
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 6: bit because there's the Ravens had no business losing that

1207
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 6: and this would be a big loss for them too.

1208
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 6: I love that you point out the division schedule that

1209
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 6: the Bengals are zeroing too.

1210
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 8: This put them oh to three in the Division one

1211
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 8: and five in the conference.

1212
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 6: But you know what, the Ravens have lost two division

1213
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 6: games too, because they blew that one against the Browns

1214
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 6: and the and the Steelers, so they would be two

1215
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 6: and three with only one left, and it.

1216
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 8: Is so big for both teams.

1217
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 6: To me, we kind of said, all right, this is

1218
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 6: a show me something game last week about Deshaun Watson.

1219
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 6: And obviously the Ravens offense and Lamar have accomplished out more.

1220
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 6: They're gonna go somewhere this year. I'm with you, these

1221
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 6: are two of the three best teams I think in

1222
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 6: the conference, and yet the loser is gonna be in

1223
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 6: a tough way here. But I'm a little bit at

1224
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 6: the show me something with the cohesion of the Ravens

1225
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 6: passing attack, in a spot where you're going against a

1226
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 6: Bengals secondary that has been giving up a lot of

1227
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 6: big plays this season. Even during their winning streak, they

1228
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 6: were giving up a lot of explosive plays. And Lamar's

1229
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 6: been very good, but they haven't been in seeing they've

1230
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 6: been streaky, like guys are open. He missed a couple

1231
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 6: deep shots that could have put the Browns away last week.

1232
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 6: Sometimes you don't know what Bateman or Beckham's gonna do,

1233
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 6: or it doesn't seem like Lamar knows what they're gonna do.

1234
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 6: Like this is, to me is a really big game

1235
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 6: for Lamar and those wide reis. You've had ten weeks

1236
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 6: now to get some cohesion and and that's the one

1237
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 6: thing that holds me back.

1238
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 8: It's not them blowing these leads.

1239
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,479
Speaker 6: It's like, are they going to be a good enough

1240
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 6: explosive passing game do it against this Bengals defense which

1241
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 6: really hasn't been that great.

1242
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 2: All right, let's move to Sunday Night Football. That's a

1243
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 2: great Thursday game, Connie, Really do the damn thing on

1244
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 2: the network in the live setting.

1245
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 6: We're all going to be was so give me some

1246
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 6: more Keaton Mitchell in this game. I don't need any

1247
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 6: five touch.

1248
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 2: Every time the balls in his hand, he's electric, baby.

1249
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 2: All right, here we go the Vikings. They are the

1250
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 2: team of around the NFL.

1251
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: How about that?

1252
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 2: And I watched a clip from inside the NFL uh

1253
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 2: huh of Kevin O'Connell, who I really like talking about

1254
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 2: the the red zone call that led to the Dobbs

1255
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 2: scramble and the touchdown. And as he's watching dobb scramble,

1256
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 2: he just kind of like puts his hands up and

1257
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 2: like and like shaking his head like oh okay, like okay,

1258
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 2: this I have a quarterback that can do this. And

1259
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,439
Speaker 2: that was interesting and this could be fun. And yes,

1260
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 2: that's why they're the team of aten. They could be fun.

1261
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 2: And I love Justin Jefferson to be back playing with him.

1262
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 2: Is it happening yet?

1263
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: Greg? I don't know.

1264
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 6: I don't it's no, but it's also trending towards it's

1265
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 6: a matter of weeks not months, right.

1266
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 2: So from one in four to six and four in

1267
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 2: good playoff positioning and now they get a Broncos team

1268
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 2: Colleen that is really has put it together. Greg, I

1269
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 2: thought you put it well on the Monday Show Monday

1270
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 2: Night Podcast that they are now at the stage where

1271
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 2: they've been with the exception the notable exception of that

1272
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 2: Dolphins game. They're in every game and they're going to

1273
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 2: continue to be in every game. So I and the

1274
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 2: Vikings are chemically addicted to being in a close game. Yeah,

1275
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 2: so I think we have a very high chance of

1276
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 2: this being a game that goes down to the wire.

1277
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 2: Hopefully the team of ATN comes out on top. But

1278
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 2: I think we have a good one here too as well.

1279
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 3: A couple of weeks ago, this game did not look good.

1280
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 8: I gave them a.

1281
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 6: Grief for not flexing out this game, and you know,

1282
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 6: a couple of weeks later, it looks pretty good.

1283
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 3: Now the Broncos are they legit like?

1284
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 7: Of course, the one in five start with the Dolphins

1285
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 7: stink on them kind of left everyone thinking that they

1286
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 7: would not go anywhere this season. But the back to

1287
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 7: back wins against the Chiefs and the Bills, they're one

1288
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 7: game out of the final wild card spot in the AFC.

1289
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 3: The defense, those four turnovers.

1290
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 7: A lot of that was on Josh Allen though five

1291
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that's right. So this defense is opportunistic. Now,

1292
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 7: justin Simmons, he has the most first of all, he's

1293
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 7: been consistent over his entire career. He is the most

1294
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 7: interception since coming into the league in twenty sixteen, with

1295
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 7: thirty of them. But it's just this team looks different,

1296
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 7: and Russell Wilson was quietly having I think now after

1297
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 7: the primetime game, people realize that he looks better than

1298
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 7: he did last year. But he was definitely having a

1299
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 7: more effective season and no one was really talking about it.

1300
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 7: That would have been a good you people, what you

1301
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 7: people don't realize.

1302
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 3: But I do look at this game.

1303
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 7: And wonder when Justin Jefferson is going to return for

1304
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 7: the Vikings.

1305
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 3: If this is going to be the first.

1306
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 6: Game very cautious where it makes it sound like it

1307
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 6: won't be this week, then next week maybe it could.

1308
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 7: But if Josh Dobbs is making it work without him,

1309
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 7: then don't rush it back. They have the longest active

1310
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 7: win streak in the NFL at five games, so keep

1311
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 7: it going.

1312
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 6: I wonder when Russell Wilson is allowed or can he

1313
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 6: open it up a little bit more, because I don't

1314
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 6: think they're going to get to the playoffs unless they

1315
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 6: can do a little more. Like his average depth of

1316
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 6: target on these in these games are crazy, Like, I

1317
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 6: think he only attempted three throws last week over five

1318
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 6: yards or over ten yards, and that's it's been pretty

1319
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 6: similar to that. It's it's all five to seven yard throws.

1320
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 6: Get like, is it open right away? If not, check

1321
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 6: it down. It's like it's been effective, But can you

1322
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 6: keep winning that way against this Flores blitz which is

1323
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 6: just a not a fluke anymore. It's happening week after week.

1324
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 6: They're a top ten defense. It's amazing. Josh mattelis the

1325
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 6: way they use their safeties and linebackers and they're just

1326
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 6: sending different deals. It's going to put a lot of

1327
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 6: stress on Sean Payton in the offensive line and Russell

1328
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 6: Wilson to recognize where the pressures coming from. And I

1329
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 6: think the best way to beat it is to run

1330
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 6: through them, and they can do that Denver, but also

1331
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 6: to take some shots down the field, and we haven't

1332
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 6: seen enough of that from Russ.

1333
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they believe they have that award now. Coordinator of

1334
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 2: the Year like Brian Flores.

1335
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 1: Has to be.

1336
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 2: I think he's a favorite in consideration or a favorite

1337
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 2: because no one was expecting. The idea was that the

1338
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 2: Vikings would be better this year. They were the arguably

1339
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 2: the worst defense in the league last year, certainly the

1340
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 2: worst of the playoff teams, and now they're they're winning

1341
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 2: games with the help of the defense. I think on

1342
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,959
Speaker 2: the Wilson point, and this is why, again you can't

1343
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 2: just judge everything on stats, because yes, he is kind

1344
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 2: of a checkdown master, and it's not the same old

1345
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 2: remember old producer TD.

1346
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: You know, Russell Wilson throws his sexy deep ball. He

1347
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 1: was so fun to watch.

1348
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 2: Has throwing those bombs to who wasn't back then Doug Baldwin.

1349
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 8: Who else was Blockett? Locked?

1350
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett?

1351
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 2: And he's been curs the main curse winning the NFC

1352
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 2: title game on the bomb to cars against the Packers.

1353
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 2: That's that guy. Isn't really around as much anymore. But

1354
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 2: you look at his.

1355
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:26,919
Speaker 8: I just like, look, his numbers are eight good.

1356
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 2: Like here is his projected statistics for the end of

1357
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 2: the season right now. Uh, he has a sixty eight

1358
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 2: percent completion percentage thirty four hundred yards, which speaks to

1359
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 2: like a lot of checkdowns.

1360
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 1: That is not a lot of yards, especially in the

1361
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: modern game.

1362
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 2: Averaging about seven yards per at ten on pays for

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01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 2: thirty four touchdowns and eight picks, and he has a

1364
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 2: one oh four passer rating, which is very good. His

1365
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 2: QBR is fifty two and a half, which is like

1366
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 2: middle of the pack, so some of that stuff. He's

1367
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 2: not an elite dominant player anymore. Still takes a lot

1368
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 2: of sacks, still takes a lot of sacks, but he

1369
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 2: is more athletic than he was a year ago, and

1370
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 2: he did lose a bunch of weight and you could

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01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 2: see it. It's just been an interesting season for him,

1372
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 2: and you got to give credit to Peyton and his schemes. Right,

1373
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:09,919
Speaker 2: there's also Wilson who could have went in the tank

1374
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 2: after last year and hasn't.

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01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: Well.

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01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 8: I went to look to QBR.

1377
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 6: Now you know they isolate rushing value, and that's quarterbacks

1378
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 6: I can run tend to do well in QBR, and

1379
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 6: Dobbs now is the number one rushing quarterback by a

1380
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 6: decent margin this year in terms of rushing value. It

1381
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 6: doesn't surprise me. I mean, he is adding huge value.

1382
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 6: But you know who's seventh, which is a nice uptick,

1383
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 6: is Russell Wilson. And that doesn't shock me because each

1384
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 6: game there's about three plays where he runs for eight

1385
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 6: yards on third and six and those are those are

1386
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 6: just massively valuable plays and he has added that back

1387
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 6: to the mix this year. Keep an eye on Ty

1388
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 6: Chandler box scores. You know did the box score didn't

1389
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 6: look great last week, but he added some juice to

1390
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 6: that backfield for Minnesota. A couple of his runs got

1391
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 6: called back because of penalty, and he's a nice little

1392
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 6: fantasy pick up.

1393
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 8: Let's see if we can get some more tight Chandler.

1394
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 7: Last night, I went down this rabbit hole on and

1395
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 7: Jordan Hicks because he after the game had to have

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01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 7: emergency surgery because of compartment syndrome in his leg. I

1397
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 7: didn't realize all of the things that go into compartment syndrome,

1398
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 7: but it sounds very scary because he had come back,

1399
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 7: he had crashed into his own teammate in the first

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01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 7: quarter of that game, and then he came back and

1401
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 7: played twenty three more snaps, finally left again in the

1402
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 7: third quarter, and then after the game he had such

1403
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 7: swelling in his leg that they got him to the

1404
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 7: hospital immediately. And compartment syndrome, it's like when the swelling

1405
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 7: reaches dangerous levels, it can cause permanent muscle damage because

1406
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 7: it restricts the blood flow to the muscles, so you

1407
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 7: can end up with like Gang Greene essentially. So that's

1408
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 7: just a point fun fact for you that M.

1409
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 3: Glennoyd you over the place.

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01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 7: Well, I did want to be a neonatologist when I

1411
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 7: was little.

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01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 8: Yeah, your sister is a nurse. You know it's all happening.

1413
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 2: So looking to the Cleveland statement again and see if

1414
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 2: Colleen slipped in there was some of her clinical background

1415
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 2: and bad job by us, Greg. The one thing that

1416
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 2: we didn't give enough pop two, both to Wilson but

1417
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:16,520
Speaker 2: mostly to Courtland Sutton.

1418
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 1: Was his touchdown catch on fourth and two.

1419
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 2: NFL's next Gen Stats gave that play a three point

1420
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 2: two percent chance of completion, making it the play with

1421
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 2: the lowest probability of completion since next Gen Stats has

1422
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 2: tracked the metrics. In other words, that is the greatest

1423
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 2: catch ever in terms. That's part of it, in greatest completion,

1424
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 2: most difficult completion in the history of that stat which

1425
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 2: I think goes back to about fifteen or so.

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01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 6: Next I could be wrong, but I think someone said

1427
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 6: the two point conversion Wilson had to lock it in

1428
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 6: the NFC Championship was the second most and those two

1429
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 6: those two plays were like the exact same, and it

1430
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 6: was that it was an incredible effort by Russell Wilson

1431
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 6: to get and to make that throw an even better catch.

1432
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 6: But like, yeah, that's one of the best plays, just

1433
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 6: pure plays by two guys.

1434
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 1: Impossible.

1435
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 8: We've seen it.

1436
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 1: Impossible.

1437
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 3: So you brought up Russ to Tyler Lockett because.

1438
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 7: When I saw the Courtland Sutton touchdown, that's immediately who

1439
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 7: I thought of, because those two had so many connections

1440
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 7: where it was like, are you kidding me in the

1441
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 7: corner of the end zone or.

1442
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? All right?

1443
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 2: Finally, Monday night football, the Philadelphia Eagles traveling to Arrowhead

1444
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 2: to face the Kansas City Chiefs. Ooh Saucy that he

1445
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 2: likes spicy Papa. And here we have the Eagles and

1446
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 2: Connie eight and one first place coming off a bye, correct,

1447
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 2: both teams coming off.

1448
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 1: Of Beef's coming off of bye, having a chance to.

1449
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 2: Figure and you know better than anyone that Read is

1450
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 2: dominant in his career after the bye, even before Patrick Mahomes,

1451
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 2: but now he has Homes. The question I'm gonna have

1452
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 2: GREGI is I look ahead to this game?

1453
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 1: Because I am.

1454
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 2: I did my my spiel about there are no good

1455
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 2: teams in the AFC, that is, if the Chiefs don't

1456
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 2: figure it out.

1457
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 1: And I still do think they figure it out.

1458
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 2: And I would love and can't wait to watch the

1459
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs at the midway point after a couple

1460
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 2: of weeks to figure some things out. What do we

1461
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 2: see from this offense? How might it look different? Will

1462
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 2: look different?

1463
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 1: At all? We shall see?

1464
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 6: Twenty eight and four is the ridiculous and Andy Reid

1465
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 6: Initiative record.

1466
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 8: I was it? Twenty eight and four?

1467
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 3: Great, it's one of my notes.

1468
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 8: Totally stupid. I love this is this?

1469
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 1: Are you just on the show for data mining for

1470
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 1: your other programs? Who do what to do?

1471
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 5: Here?

1472
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 1: Go ahead? Greg?

1473
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 6: I actually heard I think it was Bo Wolf and

1474
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 6: Zach Berman who are doing a podcast for I think

1475
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 6: Philly Now I forget phl y like it's their own

1476
01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 6: thing at Birds with Friends it used to be called

1477
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 6: pH Why And they said that Nick Sirianni had actually

1478
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 6: called Andy Reid in the past to ask him what

1479
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 6: he does during his bye week, and I think like

1480
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 6: he like stayed that's part of it.

1481
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 8: I don't even know.

1482
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 6: This is just take a break win stayed at like

1483
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 6: the Andy same hotel that Andy Reid would stay at

1484
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:17,600
Speaker 6: for vacation or something like.

1485
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 8: It was totally preposterous. I would hold on, let.

1486
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 3: Me write that down.

1487
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,719
Speaker 6: I'm gonna like retell someone else's story.

1488
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,680
Speaker 8: I need to be buttoned down. That's on me.

1489
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 6: The Eagle's running game I think needs to be better,

1490
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 6: like they they've been hoping. Oh, when Sue Opetta comes back,

1491
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 6: you know, we'll have our offensive line back together and

1492
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 6: we'll be able to run the ball better. It's like

1493
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 6: if your running game is Sue o. Petta is really

1494
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 6: the difference in it, and it has a line with

1495
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 6: him being gone, but he's like their fifth best offensive line.

1496
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,599
Speaker 6: I think there's something else going on. And even though

1497
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 6: Jalen Hurts is playing really well and almost as good

1498
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 6: as any quarterback in the league, I would say after

1499
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 6: the first three or four weeks, I think defenses are

1500
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 6: getting a beat on the Eagles running game and really

1501
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 6: building up to stop their running game. And I do

1502
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 6: think that the Chiefs are uniquely suited with their secondary

1503
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 6: and Steve Spagnola to slow down the passing attack. I

1504
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 6: think you want to be able to run against Kansas City,

1505
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 6: so that's like the number one thing I'm looking at,

1506
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 6: are we getting those five seven yard runs from DeAndre

1507
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 6: Swift because they really haven't been there and they don't

1508
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 6: make as much sense without him or without Hurts, you know,

1509
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 6: in the running game.

1510
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:25,719
Speaker 7: I'm looking at how the Eagles offense adjusts without Dallas

1511
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 7: Goddard because he fractured his forearm in the game against Dallas.

1512
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 7: They lost him for five games last season. They were

1513
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 7: still able to put up a ton of points in

1514
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 7: those games, so they were able to mix things up

1515
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 7: on offense just to get by. But there's only two

1516
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 7: healthy options at this point at the tight end position,

1517
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 7: Jack Stole and Albert oh Grant Calcata he has a concussion,

1518
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 7: not sure when he's going to return, but Goddard's a

1519
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 7: big part of that offense and what makes it work.

1520
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 3: I do love the fact that.

1521
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 7: They had a buy week because Jalen Hurts limping in

1522
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 7: that game when he got up very slow to get up.

1523
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 7: I think that there's something more going on with him

1524
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 7: that they're just not letting on the Eagles, so he's

1525
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 7: someone to watch. Also, they might get Cam Jurgens back

1526
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 7: their right guard. He missed five games with a foot

1527
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 7: injury and his practice window opened right before the Dallas game.

1528
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 7: But I think his injury, along with Jalen Hurts, just

1529
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 7: not looking right is what's been affecting the run game

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Speaker 7: that you.

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01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:25,799
Speaker 3: Talk about, Greg.

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01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 7: Like Philadelphia Inquire's own Marcus Hayes, he actually put out

1533
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,679
Speaker 7: the stat that in the first three games for the Eagles,

1534
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 7: they were averaging four point nine yards per carry and

1535
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,640
Speaker 7: one hundred and eighty five rushing yards per game, and

1536
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 7: then the next six when Cam was hurt Jurgons they

1537
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 7: were averaging three point four yards per carry and just

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01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 7: one oh one yards rushing per game.

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01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 8: So that's what I mean to say before and I said,

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01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:49,440
Speaker 8: Sue Petta.

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01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 3: I wasn't sure what you were talking about there.

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01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 6: Well, because he missed He missed the company weeks too,

1543
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 6: but he's a return So that was a big old

1544
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 6: brain fart in a big l for.

1545
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 3: I got initiative.

1546
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 7: Greg, on here, Rosie over here, h hanging there, Bud,

1547
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 7: you're over extending your tear.

1548
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 2: You've done, You've done great work all show. Don't let

1549
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 2: that Martin.

1550
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 3: Don't think about just that any other.

1551
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 1: Thoughts on this game.

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01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 6: I want to see, like if the Chiefs are gonna

1553
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,640
Speaker 6: blit like they are a really effective blitz team, Like

1554
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 6: they by the numbers, they are the most effective in

1555
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 6: terms of how they prevent success rate and create big plays,

1556
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:27,600
Speaker 6: and they've just been dynamite. It's pretty risky to do

1557
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 6: against this offensive line, against these wide receivers. So that's

1558
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 6: that's a great coaching matchup because it's tough to get

1559
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,719
Speaker 6: at Jalen Hurts. And if if you're blitzing, then suddenly

1560
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 6: aj Brown and DeVante Smith are in one on one

1561
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 6: matchups and kind of and and on the flip side,

1562
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,600
Speaker 6: like Patrick Mahomes has been protected well all year, like,

1563
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 6: let's get some people open. We've had this bye week,

1564
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 6: Rashi Rice up the middle of the feel like, are

1565
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 6: we gonna see you? You kind of said it, Dan

1566
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 6: like after two weeks, are we gonna see them? Look

1567
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 6: a little more like the Chiefs. I think to what

1568
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 6: I was talking about with the Eagle secondary before, there

1569
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 6: should be opportunities if you can block the Eagles to

1570
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 6: have open receivers.

1571
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 8: If they can't do it this week, you start to give.

1572
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 7: Travis Kelsey's coming off the game against the Dolphins in

1573
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 7: Frankfurt where they limited him, he was not involved in

1574
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 7: the offense and Patrick Mahomes he did connect with a

1575
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 7: lot of other pass catchers and made it work, but

1576
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:19,759
Speaker 7: it was really the defense that ended up winning that game.

1577
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 7: And you have so much going into this game. The

1578
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 7: stakes and this one are also so high. Two teams

1579
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 7: of the best records, both coming off by both quarterbacks

1580
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:29,600
Speaker 7: are leading the MVP discussion.

1581
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 3: It's at Arrowhead. The Kelsey's are playing each other.

1582
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 7: You know, I mean, I guess, uh, Taylor Swift won't

1583
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 7: be there because she's on tour right now, but I'm

1584
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:38,679
Speaker 7: gonna be a lot of Donna Kelce pop as well.

1585
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 8: How much did you know Joe and Troy throw their

1586
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 8: weight around to get this game? You know that the

1587
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 8: networks are fighting for this game. Maybe this was maybe

1588
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 8: the number one draft pick, and then.

1589
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 1: They're paying too much money for that booth for them

1590
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 1: not to have games.

1591
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 6: Troyce shows up to the meeting and he just he

1592
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 6: flexes his muscles.

1593
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 2: He gets and they're substantial for a man whose age.

1594
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 2: One thing missing from Hurts that would I'm wondering he's

1595
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 2: gonna show up in the second half is him being

1596
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 2: kind of a dynamic rushing guy. Yeah, he's averaging and

1597
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 2: a half yards of carry, and that's down substantially. He

1598
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 2: was four and a half last year, five and a

1599
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 2: half his first two years, and his rushes are actually

1600
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 2: down off pace from last year. You know, I think

1601
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 2: a lot of that is protecting him, but it would

1602
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 2: be nice to see that mix. It makes him almost

1603
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 2: impossible when he's really moving the ball with his legs.

1604
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 2: And my final note on the game, what you people

1605
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 2: don't realize, just to tie it all together, and I'm

1606
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 2: going to help you here, is that Chiefs tight end

1607
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:39,879
Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey and Eagles center Jason kelce are actually brothers.

1608
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 2: They're related, and oh my god. So that's a little

1609
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 2: subplot for this game. But a lot of people don't

1610
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 2: realize that, right. But it's like they're different too. They

1611
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 2: look different and the personalities are quite different. And what

1612
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 2: a celebration of different body types because I believe that

1613
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 2: Jason Kelcey, that big bear of a man, is recently

1614
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 2: named one of People Magazine's Sexiest People's.

1615
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:08,640
Speaker 6: True what are the odds that? They asked Travis and

1616
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 6: he was like, no, but you should do my brother.

1617
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 8: It would be great.

1618
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 3: Jason was like, I'm not even the sexiest man in

1619
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 3: my family.

1620
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 1: It's like the old Elvis Skirback.

1621
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 2: They wanted Travis and then they went to Eagles headquarters

1622
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 2: by accident.

1623
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 1: They're like, all right, do the hairy guy.

1624
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 8: Hey, you know it's sexy being a responsible family man.

1625
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 3: That's right.

1626
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 8: And like Dan Hanss and.

1627
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 1: Myself, I'm building a fence this week, folks.

1628
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 3: I'm fixing a sink. I got a wrap wrench.

1629
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 8: Hell yeah, Greg, I'm making that bread. You know, all right?

1630
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 8: Paying that rent?

1631
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 1: Now you've said it all I have as you always do.

1632
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 1: Check her out on NFL Network.

1633
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:51,839
Speaker 3: I'll be there.

1634
01:18:53,200 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 6: So many, so many songs.

1635
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 2: And we will be back on Thursday with our full

1636
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 2: week eleven preview.

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01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:04,839
Speaker 8: This is a basics.

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01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 1: Until the heat the call. Turn this up to my headphones.

1639
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:14,679
Speaker 4: I'll go to Blair this in the parking lot, Charlie,

1640
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:32,520
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm really.

1641
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 8: Huge streams

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01:19:53,160 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 3: Hi, Ammie, I love you Mine