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Speaker 1: Luteus. If it doesn't work, you're just not using enough.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to soft Reap Radio, Special operations, military mews

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Speaker 1: and straight talk with the guys and the community. Hey,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? This is rad with another special edition

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Speaker 1: of Soft Rep. You know me as the man behind

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Speaker 1: the glasses right here that I've always got on. But

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Speaker 1: today I want to give you a little bit of

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Speaker 1: my soul because I'm gonna talk to the one and

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Speaker 1: only Vincent Vargas a k a. Rocco. And if you

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Speaker 1: know who Vincent Vargas is, he's the actor. He plays

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Speaker 1: Gilly on Mayne's MC. He's an author, he's a singer, rapper, father, ranger,

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Speaker 1: border patrol, secret something agent guy. And it's got a

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Speaker 1: great smile. So I want to welcome you to the show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. It's a great intro. Well it's

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Speaker 1: it just flies right off the tongue naturally, Rocca. Vincent,

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Speaker 1: how old are you? I'm forty one, forty one and

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Speaker 1: you have a resume that supersedes most people's lives already

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Speaker 1: at forty one. So so this is soft Rep Radio.

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Speaker 1: We talked about veterans and how they've come from where

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Speaker 1: they used to be and how they are today. And

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Speaker 1: there's a military background in your history, right, And I said,

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Speaker 1: ranger out there, and so tell me a little bit

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Speaker 1: about what made you join the military, how old you were,

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Speaker 1: and why you chose ranger. Yeah. I was twenty three

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Speaker 1: years old, and my baseball career came to an end

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Speaker 1: all because of me. Right. I didn't make the smart

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Speaker 1: choices and it became academically ineligible and I lost the

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Speaker 1: full right scholarship. I try to continue to play other places,

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Speaker 1: but kept getting cut. There's a lot of reasons why

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Speaker 1: the baseball career didn't continue. One because I was extremely

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Speaker 1: immature too. I was into the drinking scene and I

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Speaker 1: didn't take baseball serious, you know. So that was my

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Speaker 1: intro into what's next. As I was sitting at a bar,

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Speaker 1: I was working at Texas Roadhouse and when we finished shift,

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Speaker 1: we'd all head over to Buffalo wlad Wings. I was

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Speaker 1: watching a a marine on TV putting a flag over

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Speaker 1: I saw his family super proud of him. Right, they

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Speaker 1: with joy, and I kind of like did it a

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Speaker 1: little self reflection, like, damn, I don't think my parents

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Speaker 1: at any moment of my life so far I have

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Speaker 1: been proud of, you know, because I've made a lot

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Speaker 1: of mistakes. I continued to do these stupid things, these

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Speaker 1: immature things that are not beneficial to my career field

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Speaker 1: or to my life. Right, And so that was the

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Speaker 1: first kind of initial watching that and saying, oh shit,

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Speaker 1: then I also had a daughter who was just recently

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Speaker 1: how gonna be a good dad as well, because that's

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Speaker 1: something I've always wanted to be as a dad, Right,

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Speaker 1: I've always wanted to be a father, But you know,

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Speaker 1: circumstances had it. I was having I was having a

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Speaker 1: And at the same time, you know, I was kind

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Speaker 1: going to be special operations of some sort. I didn't

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Speaker 1: black Hawk Down the movie was something that I just

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Speaker 1: Is that what's up? Or what position is your position? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You know, I think I was a better hitter outfielder,

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Speaker 1: It was I really I really loved the position of outfield.

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Speaker 1: it worked out. That's awesome. Yeah, what how fast can

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Speaker 1: you throw your what would your average you know in

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Speaker 1: your prime? Telling me I was about sixty six. I

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Speaker 1: I was popping eighty eight consistently. I could probably pop

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Speaker 1: and just like working out though. I love baseball, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's my game. I played first base. I love to hit.

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Speaker 1: My coach was always like, you're playing fourth on the list,

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Speaker 1: Love the Natural. I don't know if you ever remember

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Speaker 1: that movie, but you know, one the whole everything you

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Speaker 1: can think of baseball to me is exactly like America,

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Speaker 1: Bo Jackson's my favorite baseball player. I just want you

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Speaker 1: they haven't played it enough. The game of baseball is definitely,

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Speaker 1: uh kind of paved my my life ever since, you know, so,

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Speaker 1: I've been continued to reap the benefits of a long

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Speaker 1: I love that you love baseball. Because don't you do

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Speaker 1: Don't you have like a hero Sports foundation? Yeah? Exactly,

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Speaker 1: I have a nonprofit on hero Sports. Mike Barker is

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Speaker 1: We have I think we have five teams now here

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Speaker 1: I think the beautiful part about playing that sport is

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Speaker 1: You gotta hit the cages. You gotta learn a little

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Speaker 1: we can do advigate for veterans. You have a very

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Speaker 1: heavy social media presence. You know, you're on Instagram, I

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Speaker 1: you know, and I was like, you know, I need

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Speaker 1: to get Vince on the show. That's exactly what it is.

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Speaker 1: So I just want to put your message out there,

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Speaker 1: struggles with like, you know, dadhood. Okay, You're out here

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Speaker 1: that they can understand that, you know, they're the they're themselves. Like,

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Speaker 1: let's focus on you, and you're just you're You're pushing

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Speaker 1: the needle in every direction. And I can't say that,

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Speaker 1: I can't help but say I'm honored to have you

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Speaker 1: I mean you walked the Red Carpets. I've seen it.

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Speaker 1: go to comic Con and someone's like, hey, I know

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Speaker 1: you do all these things. But Shatner, No, man, there's

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Speaker 1: not a lot of people like I think the veteran

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Speaker 1: fifteen is almost like a cult classic, right. It resonates

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Speaker 1: you know, Range fifteen. It's kind of a message, right,

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like this really cool, like the movie

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Speaker 1: I don't even know explain that it's a cult classic.

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Speaker 1: It's nothing crazy, nothing behind how we did it and

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Speaker 1: But then that transitions you rocko into like doing other

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Speaker 1: video projects, and I was seeing you more and more

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Speaker 1: And so it's kind of like, you know, that's really

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Speaker 1: chooses the craft to chase it, to always be acting.

427
00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,800
Speaker 1: You know, there's just something about the camera, the set.

428
00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,720
Speaker 1: You know, let's take ten, go get craft services, you

429
00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,800
Speaker 1: know that whole thing, Like you know, the flying Hawaiian

430
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,120
Speaker 1: pulls up with your mahi mahi ready to go, dude,

431
00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,560
Speaker 1: It's true, like this happens, right, and you have your

432
00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,040
Speaker 1: Star Wagons trailer, So having a taste of that can

433
00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,080
Speaker 1: always just keep you going. And again, you know, I'm

434
00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,400
Speaker 1: always auditioning and chasing it and I just think it's

435
00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,480
Speaker 1: awesome to be tell me, thank you, well, thank you

436
00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,879
Speaker 1: for that compliment. But it's crazy to me that you know,

437
00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:09,160
Speaker 1: it's all about opportunity luck. It really is like opportunity

438
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,320
Speaker 1: and luck. Right, Like if they write the perfect script

439
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,000
Speaker 1: and they're looking for the perfect guy, and you're lucky

440
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,359
Speaker 1: enough to audition for that, and the producer sees you

441
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,240
Speaker 1: and they give you a chance, right, they give you

442
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,000
Speaker 1: a fucking chance. That's all you need, and that one

443
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 1: chance can change your life forever, right, forever. Like imagine

444
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 1: if you landed, bro, if you landed freaking the next

445
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,919
Speaker 1: Harry Potter and you're freaking you know, one of the

446
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,520
Speaker 1: dudes that would be life changing financially and and and

447
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 1: as well as creatively. It would change your life forever.

448
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 1: And what puts you in the position to do that?

449
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,880
Speaker 1: I have no idea. There is no algorithm for this, right,

450
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,399
Speaker 1: like for acting, it is right place, right time, right

451
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 1: opportunity and being prepared for it right and it's it's this,

452
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 1: it's it is a lottery ticket of lottery tickets brow

453
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 1: and so like for the fact that I'm Look, there

454
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 1: was a lot of combat veterans in Hollywood trying to

455
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 1: be actors before me, and somehow I kind of jumped

456
00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 1: levels and got there before them. It's unfair air. It's

457
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 1: it's the weird thing about life that, like, life is

458
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 1: not fair. And you know, I've tried to do the

459
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 1: most with it in respect to like, I respect them

460
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 1: and I respect the craft, and so I'm going to

461
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 1: try and do as much as I can with that

462
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 1: opportunity as you should, and and take advantage of learning

463
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 1: on set and understanding what four K and two K

464
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 1: and stinger cables are and just like you know, stand

465
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 1: to the side and you know, knowing that that's a

466
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 1: grip and that's the gaff and that's the you know,

467
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 1: these are combo stands, you know. I say like, if

468
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,639
Speaker 1: you're trying to get into film, try to find something

469
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 1: local in your area where they're they're trying to practice

470
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 1: their craft, and like an acting class or a film class.

471
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 1: It's okay to pay the dues like a gym and

472
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 1: get in there because everybody and there's vulnerable acting classes.

473
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,239
Speaker 1: They're there to work on their craft and and just

474
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,719
Speaker 1: get better at it. And then they're putting movies together.

475
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 1: And then you might be able to say, hey, do

476
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 1: you need help on that Saturday, like, yeah, can you

477
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 1: come hold the combo stand? What is that? Come on

478
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: out and we'll show you what that is. Right, And

479
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 1: then the next thing, you know, you're more professional on

480
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 1: the next set, and then more professional on the next step,

481
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,199
Speaker 1: and then you're like, you know, then you're holding the

482
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 1: sticks for the camera, right, or you're producing your own

483
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,439
Speaker 1: films right. Like I tell people all the time, like

484
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 1: we're in a very fortunate time where you can actually

485
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 1: you want to show the world you can act. You

486
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 1: want to show them how fucking good you are film it,

487
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 1: produce that ship, like let them see because we don't

488
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 1: have to sit around and wait for someone to bring

489
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 1: you on board to make a movie. We can do

490
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,479
Speaker 1: it ourselves. Now our cell phones make four KR. Just

491
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 1: wanted the actors, Yeah, yeah, exactly, So all those veterans

492
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 1: and all the anyone who anyone who wants to be

493
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 1: an actor, fucking do it. Man, show the world you

494
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 1: can do that, because as soon as you show them

495
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: you have a skill set that like you can't turn

496
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: your head from, You're gonna get jobs. I believe in that.

497
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 1: I fully believe. You know, there's this whole thing in

498
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 1: Hollywood right now, but I don't want to take us

499
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 1: too far off, but the whole thing in Hollywood right now,

500
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: right where we're you know, Hispanics are being appropriated or

501
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 1: whatever by people who are not Hispanic, and and actors

502
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 1: just begining more opportunity. Like Okay, I understand the argument,

503
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 1: but to me, it's like, why why not just be

504
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: one of the dopest actors ever where people can't turn

505
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: away from you and that gets you opportunity, not just

506
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 1: the color of your skin or your culture or whatever

507
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: the case. To me, I believe the best man should win, right,

508
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: I've always been a competitive person. I was like, so,

509
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 1: if I'm auditioning for role and you're auditioning for a

510
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 1: role and my color matches the skin of the actual

511
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 1: character who gives a ship? Can I do it? Can

512
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: I pull it off? I don't. I don't know. I

513
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: want to show up and be the best that there

514
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: ever was and people to not be able to ignore

515
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 1: the skills that I provide. And if I can do that, well,

516
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: then I'm good at my craft. And if I can't,

517
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 1: I better get better. That's how really, you know, that's

518
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: like some Michael Caine advice right there. You know, he

519
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,199
Speaker 1: was in Dirty Rotten Scoundrels. Michael Caine a huge actor.

520
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 1: One time he was on set with Dustin Hoffman, and

521
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: Dustin Hoffman was like up for the whole twenty four

522
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 1: hours prior to the filming. He wanted to be really

523
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: worn out, really tired for his scene. He was supposed

524
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: to be up all haggard, and Michael King said, that's awesome,

525
00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 1: But have you ever thought about acting? You know, like,

526
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Bro? You could just be tired

527
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: right or like? But you got method versus non method acting,

528
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: you know, So It's like everyone has their process, right,

529
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: everyone has exactly I'm just being sent out as now

530
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,239
Speaker 1: I'm the Viking going out for Viking roles, or like

531
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: this Cowboys show that just came out here. Can't talk

532
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 1: about it because I signed on to the audition, but

533
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: all these different things that that was a crazy audition.

534
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: I hadn't ever had to sign onto an audition where

535
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: I couldn't talk about nothing with the audition that was interesting.

536
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: There's a lot of that just depends on the level

537
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,719
Speaker 1: of echelon of of the audition, So it happens all

538
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: the time. There's somebody's heavy level where somebody has sign Yeah, yeah,

539
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: I know exactly what you're talking about cause I live here.

540
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: But crazing is that I've signed n d as before

541
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 1: they even send me the sides. You know, You're like, okay, right,

542
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: and then they said you aside. You're like, isn't this

543
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 1: from like pulp fiction? They're just sending you aside like

544
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: do this scene from True Romance? You're like, am I

545
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: Tony soprano? What's going on here? Yeah? So now that

546
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 1: you have acting in your life and that's helping to

547
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: you know, move me, you in that direction, do you

548
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: find that being military has helped you to transition into

549
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,719
Speaker 1: the life of you know, of a chain of command

550
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,959
Speaker 1: on set and you know how that works. Do you

551
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: implement that? Yeah? Yeah, I think you know, I think

552
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: there's a lot of similarities between military and film. Like

553
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: in a film crew, you know, everyone has a job

554
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: to do, right, there's an overall mission. That mission is

555
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: the script and you know, you get your grunts on

556
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: the ground, who are the actors on set who have

557
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 1: to know their jobs. They have to they have to

558
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 1: essentially accomplish the mission that's set for that day. And

559
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: then you have all the support staff who's working all

560
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: around you, right, Who's who's putting the lights on, Who's

561
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: who's holding the camera, who's doing the makeup? You know,

562
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: And so it's very similar, you know, very parallel lives.

563
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 1: If you will, I show up early, I'm prepared. You know,

564
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: I've done my training or training just like you wouldn't

565
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: any other thing. And you know, you have to understand

566
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: the hierarchy and who to say yes sir, yes, ma'am, absolutely,

567
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: and how that works. Right. It's like the patuns, you know,

568
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: the p l of the Petuni is trying to tell

569
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: you like, Hey, I think we need to enter the

570
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: house this way because it's probably safer or whatever the case.

571
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: And you're like, Okay, Roger, that director, I'll do exactly

572
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: as you say, right. I'm gonna do it in my way,

573
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna do exactly what you say, right. And so, yeah,

574
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 1: the parallels is ridiculous. And you know, I think more

575
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 1: veterans should attempt the theater arts because there's more than

576
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 1: just a job that you kind of feel like you

577
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: can kind of fit right into and understand, but you

578
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: could also find therapeutic value in the theater, right. That's

579
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: I think that's what I do more than anything. I

580
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 1: find a lot of therapeutic value. And being able to

581
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: create these emotions that most likely, you know, I haven't

582
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: been allowed to or or hasn't been socially acceptable in

583
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: in this alpha male freaking you know, special operations community.

584
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: I've been able to do that. I've been able to

585
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: transcend pass that, I've been able to just be able

586
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: to like, yeah, I'm gonna acive funk. I'll cry all

587
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: and all I need And that's been healthy for me,

588
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: you know. And I've been able to turn around and

589
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: tell others to do the same. So, yeah, I think

590
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: the military has helped me immensely with my acting career. Yeah,

591
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: that's that's pretty awesome. And then I think what what

592
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: I would say with that is, you know, there is

593
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: a total chain of command. And I think Spielberg even

594
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: wears like a colonel on his hat. You know, when

595
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: they were like doing Saving Private Ryan, and everybody on

596
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: his his team on the first unit second all had

597
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: like little rank and everybody was just rolling that way

598
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: just for filming Save a Private Ryan because they're so

599
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 1: engulfed in that you know, that world right there. And

600
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: so I think there's a photo of him wearing like

601
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: a colonel fullbird on his hat, and I'm like, yeah,

602
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: what's up. I get it. I get it. You know,

603
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: chain of command, the order, right, it works, and uh

604
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: you know with that, you know, it's just so cool.

605
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: Man with like with acting and making and making TV series.

606
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: You're working with Kurt Sutter, right, okay, the right is

607
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: that right? The creator of Mine's MC for the first

608
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: two seasons. Yeah, he's he's the writer. He's a co

609
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: writer creator of the show. In the first two seasons

610
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: he was there, and then after that Elgin took over. Okay,

611
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: So are these guys pulling from you like on set, like, hey,

612
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: you know Rocko, let me come with Guilly, come over here.

613
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: This is what we want to get out of you

614
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 1: in this scene. Are they just you know, are they

615
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: really like holding that out of you, bro, so that

616
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: you can be like, hey, I'm here for you. What

617
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: do you need for me? They're like, we want you

618
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: to do this? What's up? Are they? You know? From

619
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: from my experience, those two creators are very different on

620
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: how they run a set. Kurt was very stern. Kurt

621
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: was like sort major, you know what I mean. He

622
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,479
Speaker 1: was very very strict and stern how he wanted everything.

623
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: You know. Elgin is a little bit more laid back

624
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: and relaxed. Elgin is a little bit more kind of

625
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: like I felt like, more like I say, a team player,

626
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: but it kind of sounds bad. It's more like I

627
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 1: felt more comfortable going to Elgin and saying, hey, and

628
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: here's how I feel about this. I didn't feel comfortable

629
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: in that with Kurt when one, you know, the first

630
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: two seasons, I was very new and so I was

631
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: kind of still trying to get my feet wet, you know,

632
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: So maybe it was more of a psychological thing when

633
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want to go talk to

634
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: the big dog because I don't want to get freaking

635
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: yell that you're in the military mindset, right. But by

636
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: sound got this season three, I was definitely kind of

637
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: more broken in and it felt like understood how it

638
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: all worked out and how the layout goes. And so

639
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: when I got a line that I wasn't sure like

640
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: what the delivery would look like, I'd actually go up

641
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: to him and say, hey, uh, is this line delivered

642
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: like angry? Or is this is delivered? You know, more

643
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: subtle like what are you looking for in this? And

644
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: what do you what are you trying to accomplish? Right

645
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: with Gilly? And so you tell me man, and then

646
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: you know, we went deeper into he wants to develop

647
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: my character to be a veteran, right. He wanted him

648
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: to kind of go through the postmatic stress kind of

649
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: like cycle. You know, he wanted to see it on film,

650
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: and so I did help with writing some of my

651
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: concepts and giving him to him, and he was able

652
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: to put him into the script and and make what

653
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: we had for season three and season four. So yeah,

654
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot of teamwork when it comes with Elgin.

655
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: I think, you know, Chris's been creating for so long

656
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: as a genius. Everyone knows how how much of a

657
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: genius he is. I think he has his way of

658
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: doing things that he likes, and he kind of keeps

659
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: it that when you know I got wrong answer, probably

660
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: want to just like always please curty. You know, I'd

661
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: imagine it's just like, okay, I know my lines, I'm here,

662
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: I'm here to fix whatever you need, and then here's

663
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: my bill and I'm out. You know, it's like professionalism

664
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: straight up. He probably brings you on and says I

665
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: expect have expectations, and I'm sure every director does, and

666
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna be a little bit unique with their talent,

667
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: but you know, they all want you to get the

668
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,719
Speaker 1: job done. Everyone's slightly right. They all know what they

669
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: all have a mission to do, and they all want

670
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: to compt that mission in their way that they feel

671
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: they feel would be the best. And so yeah, I'm

672
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: just I could just I feel a little bit more

673
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: comfortable in my position now with minds, and so I'm

674
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: able to ask more questions and I feel like I'm

675
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm stepping on toes right, and and so working

676
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: with is it j D? Party? Is that j D?

677
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: Is that right? Is j Pardea's easy? I mean working

678
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: with all of them is valuable, right, They're they're all

679
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: my teachers. I've been able to pull from all of

680
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: them and see how they get into character and how

681
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: they you know, you read the words on the paper

682
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: and then you see them come to life out of

683
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: them and you're like, WHOA, I didn't think about that

684
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: way of doing it right, and I didn't see I

685
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: didn't see those words coming out and with that expression.

686
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: And so it's just beautiful to watch how everyone does.

687
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: There's thing I think j D is one of the

688
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: most technical and trained actors I have ever worked with.

689
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: I think he understands acting at a very like man

690
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: visceral level. You know. He he can explain to you

691
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: why to do certain things at certain times, and why

692
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: it's important for edits, and why to stand a certain

693
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: way during the camera, like he understands. It's so profound,

694
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: that's it's fucking rad, you know. And then you've got

695
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: guys like Michael Irby who plays Bishop right, he's he

696
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: plays bishop on the show. Michael Irby has been doing

697
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: this for so long. He's got this professionalism about him

698
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: that is like, oh man, I just find that dude

699
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: to be the most intriguing person to watch on set

700
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: because I think he has so many levels of character

701
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: that he brings to the table, and he has shown

702
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,479
Speaker 1: me so much of like fuck it, do it, just

703
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: go with it right, and it's just beautiful. And then

704
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: you got guys like Amelia, who's like a legend right

705
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: with the whole Sons of Anarchy legend continues to roll

706
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: into man's you know who is. He was like a

707
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: father figure to me. He's just a great person. Like

708
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, I've learned from everyone co Coode, like

709
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: Richard Ramirez do. I think I've learned probably more from

710
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: him than anyone, because I've worked with him so much.

711
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: You know, I've been able to go toe to toe

712
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: with him on a scene and and to know his

713
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: background and where he came from and his traumas, to

714
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: know that we both struggle with traumas in our own likeness,

715
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: and be able to come to set and be able

716
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: to like butt heads with with with acting. It's just

717
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, I can't I can't think this whole

718
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: opportunity enough for giving me so much education on acting

719
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: and being like, you know, I feel like I have

720
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: a masters in this now because working with some of

721
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: these grades, yeah, and being on actual film sets and

722
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: you know, the talk and everything going back and forth

723
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: and just is gonna season you more and just make

724
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: even more ready for that big production that you're about

725
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,479
Speaker 1: to do. I I just totally pulling for you on

726
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: all on all fronts. I love how you're vulnerable with

727
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: putting yourself out there on social media. You talk about

728
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: things that are sensitive to someone with knuckle tattoos. You

729
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't think some guy so hard charge it would be like, hey,

730
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm I'm stressed out today. But following

731
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: your TikTok and seeing how personable you are, it's really

732
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: easy to kind of just realize, hey, you know, we

733
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: all go through these same types of things in life.

734
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: You know. You just you're just really an open book. Yeah,

735
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: It's it's very unhealthy to keep that stuff in. It's

736
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: very unhealthy. Just allow it to stack up and stack

737
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: up and then explode in some way. You know, I

738
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: think I used to you know, I'm sober right three

739
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,479
Speaker 1: years go ongoing and um, it's gonna be It'll be

740
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: four years in March, and so thank you. You know.

741
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: The funny thing about it is like alcohol was my

742
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: answer to trying to block everything that was stressing me

743
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: out right, alcohol was the answer. The military taught me

744
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: that ship, my dad taught me that. Right, It's just

745
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: what we did one. You know, if you're in a

746
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: Hispanic culture, that's a thing called my cheesemo, right, we

747
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: can't show weakness like that's like men don't do that

748
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: in our culture, right, And then you get into the

749
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: special operations communities, like you don't showing us there either,

750
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: And so you know, my whole life, I've I've never

751
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: really shown I've never been this like a emotional spectrum

752
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: of from from emotional to angry. I've just kind of

753
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: been like middle ground then straight to angry, you know.

754
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: And that wasn't healthy either. You know. I found myself

755
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 1: getting too fights a lot. I found myself just willing

756
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: to try and throw down with people just for the

757
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: fact that, like you made me uncomfortable, like you know

758
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: what I mean. And so as I've grown and I've

759
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: I've gotten older, and I've I've I've done some deep

760
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 1: diving you know, I realized, like you know, those are

761
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: all insecurities, right, those are insecurities, and and not willing

762
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: to just be open and honest and be human can

763
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: be detrimental, you know, especially to our to our you know,

764
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 1: to the men out there who are afraid to be

765
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 1: honest and open and real. Like, if you're not open

766
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: and honest and real with your emotions, there's somehow it's

767
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 1: gonna spew out of you. It's gonna be ugly negative.

768
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: It's gonna be probably through drinking. It's gonna be fighting,

769
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna be unhealthy relationships is gonna be through what

770
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: over Gaining too much weight is gonna be It's gonna

771
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: be somewhere. All that stuff finds its way out of

772
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: your system in some aspect. And so I refused to

773
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: be held down by this ideology. If I had to

774
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: be tough and for me to one learn acting, I

775
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: had to be able to open up those doors. And two,

776
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: combat did something to me, dude. It's just the truth.

777
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: Combat did something to me. And I'm not there's guys

778
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: who've seen worse than done more right facts, But I

779
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: know for a fact that combat change things in me

780
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: that make me more susceptible to emotions. I can empathize

781
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: with people more now than ever. I understand pain, I

782
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: understand loss, I understand fear. I've seen it on people's

783
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: fucking eyes. Dude, I've seen it because I created it

784
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: for them. I've been that guy, right, I've been the

785
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: guy that kicks in the door and they're terrified for

786
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: the life. And it haunts me due to It's not

787
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: like I'm doing my job and I don't feel bad

788
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: about about doing our job overseas, That's just what it is.

789
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: But I can also be this other persons say, Yo,

790
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: that didn't feel good for them. I know what it

791
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: felt like for them, and if that happened to me,

792
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: I feel the same, right, And so somehow I'm almost

793
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: like two people were like, I know, there's there's the

794
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 1: lover and then there's the fighter. Overseas, youre the fighter,

795
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: but there's the heart of me goes, oh, that one's

796
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: gonna stick for a minute, you know what I'm saying.

797
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: And I found my own healing has been in my

798
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: own story. It's just saying it like it is, man

799
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: like wife, my bullshit. Man, there's so many people out

800
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: there that are bullshitting the world because they're too afraid

801
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: to face themselves, right, you know what I meaning? Like

802
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 1: looking at the land of Utah, there's like more life

803
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: coaches that you've ever seen your entire life and have

804
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: done very little in life to be able to give

805
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: someone else, you know, And I find it very strange

806
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: to me. I just find it odd because most of

807
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: those dudes hide behind money that that you've eventually find

808
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: out they don't really have, right, They're just there on credit, right,

809
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 1: and they hide behind these fancy cars and big houses

810
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: and and fake relationships. But like the truth is, dude,

811
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: Like none of that is happiness. Dog, Like when you

812
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: go to combat and you see poverty, right, and you

813
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 1: see these people wake up with nothing, and they're still

814
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: just as happy. Like you realize, real fast, money is

815
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: not the root of happiness, right. Money can cause a

816
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: lot of issues. Money is a root of comfort. Like

817
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: I can say that, like money makes my life comfortable.

818
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: But if I am so disillusioned to think that money

819
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 1: is happiness, bro, you will chase that fucking carrot forever

820
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: and never be fully happy with yourself. And so I

821
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: refused to do that. I refuse I want to be honest.

822
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: I want to be open. I want to be for

823
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: my kid's sake. Like I think everything I've done, Like

824
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: I I said this before to somebody, but like the

825
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: residual effects of loving my family and trying to be

826
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: better for them has been the success that you see.

827
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: All that success is not what I was chasing. I'm

828
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: just chasing how can I show that I can do

829
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 1: more and be better for them? How can I be

830
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: a good example for my kids to say there is

831
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: like like my son's is dead. I want to be this,

832
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: will do it. There's nothing stopping you. Like, let me

833
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 1: show you that I'm ana proved that. Like I grew

834
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: I grew up dyslexic, bro I had a fifth grade

835
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: reading level, graduating high school, I've got I've published multiple books,

836
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: I write scripts, and I speak publicly in front of

837
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: thousands of people all the time. I am telling you

838
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: I am not a smart man. I am not a

839
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: supernatural person. I am human as fuck, dude. I just

840
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: am willing to put myself through the work. I am

841
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: willing to just face it head on and say I

842
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: might fail and that's okay, you know, And that bothers

843
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 1: me that so many people are not afraid of being

844
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 1: open and honest with themselves. So many people are hiding

845
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: behind money and thinking that's that's the answer. It's not.

846
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna find yourself empty inside because that's all it is.

847
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 1: Those are insecurities. When I see people like, oh, those

848
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: are insecurities, they're they're paying for their insecurity and trying

849
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: to cover them up. It's no different than alcohol and drugs. Right,

850
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: it's the same thing. It's a different addiction. Let me

851
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: boost my own ego by showing you how cool I

852
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: am like, Okay, if that's what you need, fine, right,

853
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: I'm not And I'm not saying if you have the

854
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: money to buy any ship, go for it, dude, go

855
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: for it. Like you know what I'm saying. Money, that's

856
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: what I call it. I was like, you got dumb

857
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: money to do it. But if you're driving like Platinum

858
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: Forward and you're like I'm looking at you like that

859
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: car payment is like how much is that car payment?

860
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's what I'm thinking, you know, and I think, Wow,

861
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: I wonder what we're doing. I'm just like I don't

862
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: find that smart. I don't know. So for me, yeah,

863
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 1: family is what makes me look Yeah, absolutely, my ship,

864
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: my family, coach, my son right, coaching daughters, golfing with

865
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: my other son. Like everyone has to schedule your time

866
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: with your family priority, right, because that's that you want

867
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: them to say, Hey Dad, i'm home, or hey dad,

868
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: can you help me? Or okay Dad, well i'm here,

869
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: but I'm downstairs on the phone and you're like, well

870
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm available. Yes, exactly. Money when they say time is money, Yeah,

871
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: the most valuable thing you have is that, And the

872
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 1: most valuable thing you can spend your time money is

873
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 1: your loved ones. Your loved ones, not like your homies,

874
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: like your homies. Yeah, you'll find time always your kids

875
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: and your wife. Yeah, your kids and your wife need

876
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: need more of you than ever. Core memories is what

877
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: we call it an in our household. Yeah, it's like,

878
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: you know, we're like core memories. So my wife and

879
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 1: I we like to go a rock concerts together because

880
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: we talked about that seven ten months later, we're still

881
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: remember that concert and like Metallic and like, you know,

882
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: it's like these core memories of like going to the

883
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: pumpkin patches and taking your kids and you know, even

884
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: if they're in there, My kids are in their twenties, right,

885
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: I got a twenty year old now, I got a

886
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: seventeen year old now, and I got a fourteen year

887
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: old now, and so it's like, you know that time

888
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: is fleeting. It's time to still go to the pumpkin

889
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: patches with your twenty year old and be the dad

890
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: and you know, have that time with your wife if

891
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 1: if you still have that capability to do so, that's

892
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 1: just my advice of years of marriage. I agree, dude,

893
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 1: I agree. It's nurturing that relationship right in that family,

894
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: Like I think, I don't know. Look, this is just me.

895
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: This is my opinion on this ship. Like I drive

896
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: a Toyota camera because it's good on gas and the

897
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: motherfucker's paid off, right what, I'm good. I don't need. Yeah,

898
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: there's nothing more I need. Really, Like you know when

899
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 1: you think of concepts of cars like okay, the car's

900
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: paid off, the car works. I'm warning, dude, I'm good

901
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: because all I need to do is get from point

902
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: to point B and get in. It needs to do that.

903
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: So I'm happy, right right, you know, But I try

904
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: and see it that way because I wasn't always that way.

905
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: I was always I used to be financially and app

906
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: I used to be a fool. I used to just

907
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: spend everything I had because I'm gonna enjoy your money,

908
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: right like yeah, And it was just ridiculous because then

909
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: it comes taxes. You're like, oh, crap out a lot

910
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: of tax and then you go, oh, man, now I'm

911
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: now I'm working paycheck to paycheck again, right like, like

912
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: I've made those mistakes, and I'm going to tell people,

913
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: like real fast, you're gonna see if you think that's

914
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: what's happiness is, it will come back, right like that

915
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: debt will get paid. You owe your time to your family.

916
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: You know, You're they're gonna learn that very late, when

917
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: it's too late, or you gonna learn it early, you know,

918
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: and you're gonna appreciate. And so I mean, look, if

919
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: family is important to you, or the relationships you've built

920
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: your wife, your kids, would you'll eventually learn that we've

921
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: made a lot of choices in our lives and it

922
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: didn't put us in the position to be better parents

923
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: and sons and fathers, right like whatever the case, you know,

924
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,959
Speaker 1: I had to I had to fight that a long

925
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: time ago when I was doing law enforcement, and I

926
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: had to and I was. It was like law enforcement

927
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 1: then hanging out the boys, drinking beer, blah blah blah

928
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: blah blah. I was adding all these things to my plate,

929
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: but like my family was getting the seconds and that's

930
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 1: not fair. But again, this is me learning it. I've

931
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,959
Speaker 1: learned it. I've been there, done that, and so now

932
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: I won't do that again. And you know, and I

933
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: get a lot of calls from people that go, hey, bro,

934
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: how do I fix this? Like I try to warn you.

935
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: I try to warn you. It's just the truth of

936
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: the matter. Man, Like, if family is important to you,

937
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: then then they should be the they should be the

938
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: primary thought process of how you how you make choices

939
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 1: in life. And there's sometimes you can't write. Sometimes you

940
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: everybody has to work, and everybody, you know, like my

941
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: parents they both worked, dude, they were both you know,

942
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 1: they were building something for me that I have now today,

943
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: right they what they've built. They started off. They started

944
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 1: my life off in a good space. And so that

945
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: that's a thing. But there's those people that choose to

946
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: work over choose work over relationships, and the hard part

947
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: about that is that they will find themselves alone and

948
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna say, man, I make plenty of money, but

949
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: this house is empty, and my relationships are empty because

950
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: I didn't nurture any of them. It's like, you know,

951
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: this is forty year old who's just focused so hard

952
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: on their on their corner office, and just now they're

953
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: forty and they're like, Oh, I have all this money,

954
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: but what do I Who do I share it with?

955
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: Or how do I Who do I leave this to?

956
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: Who's what's the foundation that I've built? And sometimes it's

957
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: a little late at that point, you know. I mean

958
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: a friend of mine just had a kid at yeah, yeah, yeah,

959
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: I know what he's feeling. I was. I was forty

960
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: when I had my last one, and I'm like, oh god,

961
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: so yeah, yeah. I'll tell you a story. Man. I

962
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: was on an airplane and it was like a four

963
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: hour flight and I'm sitting next to this dude. There's

964
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: obviously a businessman, right. He's not in the greatest ship

965
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: of his life. He's just kind of a business You

966
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 1: can tell. He sits behind a desk all the day

967
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: and he's like, you know, when we got into the

968
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 1: simple conversation, he goes, what do you do for a living? Man?

969
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know, at the time, I

970
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: was special operations for the Border Patrol, right, And so

971
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: I said, I worked for home that security, and uh,

972
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: you know, I'm on the special operations. I'm a search

973
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: trauma man. I'm a pretty much a search trauma metic, right,

974
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: that's what That's what I'm a. I'm a search and

975
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: rescue medic and I'm also on the tactical side of things. Right.

976
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: So I kind of explained and broke that down. He

977
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: was just like, oh, man, that's exciting, dude, he goes, Man,

978
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: I sometimes I wish my life was that exciting. And

979
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, what do you do? He goes nothing.

980
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 1: I'm sitting in a cubicle. I work nine to five,

981
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,479
Speaker 1: I take my kids to work, and I have dinner

982
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: with him every night. But yeah, it's not as exciting

983
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: as you. I'm like, and I'm looking at like, bro,

984
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 1: that is a beautiful life. I would love to take

985
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: my kids school every fucking day. I would love to

986
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: have dinner with my kids every damn night. I just

987
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: don't have that lifestyle. I chose something completely different. Now,

988
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: both jobs are probably necessary, right, whatever he's doing is

989
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: necessary for his family or for whatever he's doing, and

990
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: what I'm doing is necessary for my family. I don't

991
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: know if I could actually work in a cubicle. I

992
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: just don't know if I'm my mind can handle that.

993
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: It's just something I've never really done. I've been this

994
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: very active person. But he envied my life because it

995
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: was so exciting, and I envied his because it was

996
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: so damn perfect. It was so damn basic, like kids, dinner, boom,

997
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: and you know it's you say, like the grass is

998
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: always greener, right. But I easily could have quit my

999
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: job and found a different job. I just didn't. I

1000
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: wasn't willing to write. I wasn't willing to sacrifice, you

1001
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: know that. And if I put my family first, that

1002
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: would have been I would have probably chose a different job.

1003
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: At the time. I wasn't put in my family first.

1004
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting in his big old house and alone

1005
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: and no time with my kids, and so I kind

1006
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 1: of pivoted from that day, you know. From that is

1007
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: when I started to adjust my my my career feeling

1008
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: and end up walking away from the bottletrol because I

1009
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: wanted more time with him. But as things get busier

1010
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: in Hollywood, I find myself getting busy again and so

1011
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: now I'm back in this kind of like the cycle

1012
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: of like, don't do it again, asshole, don't do it again.

1013
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: So I have to make sure I don't do you

1014
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: think that? Uh now that some Well, now you've got

1015
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: some wee ones, right, You've got a couple of young

1016
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: young ones in your life, you know, some new new kids.

1017
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: But some of your older kids they might understand dad

1018
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: now right, they might have that understanding because they're also

1019
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: now chasing dreams and you know, moving that gold for

1020
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: their you know, in their goal post. So you know,

1021
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: in the beginning, it was hard because I get pulled

1022
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: away doing my job here in in Salt Lake with

1023
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: the war games and everything. Every weekend it was like, oh,

1024
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: there's a baptism, Oh well, Rat can't make it because

1025
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: he's got to go run a war games. Oh hey,

1026
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: this weekend there's a birthday party. Oh yeah, well I

1027
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: gotta keep the war games going because you know, the

1028
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: lights and the war game community gotta keep going. Oh

1029
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: this Saturday, this Saturday, that Saturday. And then it's like

1030
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: my Saturday's always superseded my wife's needs. And so she

1031
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: let me do that and so allowed the relationship to

1032
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: grow that way or else I wouldn't be here today. So,

1033
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: you know, just the support of my wife and and

1034
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: my kids now that they're older. But yeah, I do

1035
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: kind of have some regrets. You know. It's like, oh,

1036
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 1: I missed the kids a birthday. I was like literally

1037
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: out the door into a humvey for war games because

1038
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: we had all of a sud It's like, I gotta

1039
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: go Happy Birthday three. She won't miss that. And I know, dude,

1040
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: I get trust me, dude, I've missed births right, Like

1041
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: I would tell anyone that has a lifestyle where they

1042
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: can't be there for every birthday. We have grown accustomed

1043
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: to no hard dates, and this might help some of

1044
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: you like figure that out. Like I've had to break

1045
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: my my wife's mindset on that you had to celebrate

1046
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 1: that birthday on the exact day. I've had to break

1047
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: that mentality because her whole life has been that day,

1048
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: that day and the day. And I said, listen, we

1049
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 1: have no hard dates in this household. There's none. Because

1050
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: if you if you give yourself a hard date and

1051
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: say we have to celebrate that day, we're opening ourselves

1052
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: up for heartbreak. It's gonna hurt, all right. So now

1053
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: we kind of shift fire. We're like, Okay, this is

1054
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: their birthday. We'll make sure we do this little cake

1055
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: and thing, but their birthday party is this day because

1056
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 1: we can all be there, right, And so that has

1057
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 1: been the savior for me not feeling guilty for missing

1058
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 1: specific day, especially during the week when I'm filming Monday

1059
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: through Friday. I'm gone Sunday, Sunday, I fly home. I

1060
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: fly home Friday night. Saturday Sunday no on boom, I

1061
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: fly back for Monday. And so that idea of no

1062
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: hard dates is really really a lot of pressure in

1063
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: me to say I don't have to be there every

1064
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: single time. I can actually miss a little bit, and

1065
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 1: then we'll we'll read, will read that Birthday, that Christmas,

1066
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: that whatever is. Yeah, and that has worked really well

1067
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: for us. And so some of you that are struggling

1068
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: to find that, you know, talk to the wife and

1069
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: and try and negotiate that no hard dates. Yeah, I

1070
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: like that. I like that, and you know, we kind

1071
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: of do that as well. Here at my household. I

1072
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: have to say there are like, okay, this week, we

1073
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: have two kids born in the same week of October,

1074
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 1: and then my other daughters October so all the kids

1075
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: are October. Yeah, I'm broke, okay, so October four quarter,

1076
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: that's like it's a hard month. My wife's birthdays and

1077
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: Chris is December, our anniversaries in December, and everybody's Christmas

1078
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: is in December. So I'm like, stick my blood there

1079
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: you go. But yeah, no, it's true. It's totally true.

1080
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: You know, the compromise aspect of the relationship. The kids

1081
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: and everybody's like, okay, we'll get together. We'll go do

1082
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: a stay cation together and celebrate everybody together now that

1083
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: we're older. So I mean, you know, and I like

1084
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: that the kids understand. Yeah, exactly, so many similarities. Yeah,

1085
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,479
Speaker 1: I've had your time. I know you said heart tend

1086
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: and we're coming up on that time. So I just

1087
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: want to give you a couple, like a minute or

1088
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: two to shout out your veterans h Q, if you

1089
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: wish or what you got going on rock Oh tell us.

1090
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I got a ton of stuff. Just if

1091
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,720
Speaker 1: you have any questions, hit me up on social media,

1092
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like my goal you know better,

1093
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: And I started that a couple of years ago, and

1094
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: I tried to do you know, the whole gimmick of

1095
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 1: like giving away a vehicle, and it ran. The company broke.

1096
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: It didn't work right, Like you try and do these

1097
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: things because you think it's gonna work, and it didn't. Right. No,

1098
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 1: the whole pupils that if it did really well, we'd

1099
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: be able to put that money to building some very

1100
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: healthy transition centers for veterans, right. And so the the

1101
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: ideology was there, the business, you know, the business model

1102
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: and everything was there. It's just that at the same

1103
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: time we did that, the market was over saturate with

1104
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: all these giveaways. But it just wasn't working. There's too

1105
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: many people doing giveaways at the same time. And uh.

1106
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: And so I ran that business into the ground, right,

1107
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: And so I had to pivot. I had to stop

1108
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: and say, all right, what are we gonna do now?

1109
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: And you know, I think the veteran ideology is so valuable.

1110
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: And if I can take some time to speak on

1111
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: that is that I created Veteran because I was very

1112
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: tired of the negative messaging in the veteran community. Right.

1113
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 1: If you if you tell someone of their fat every

1114
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: damn day, you're gonna really mess with their their their

1115
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: their psyche. You're gonna mess their self esteem and there

1116
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: at some point they might even believe it, you know.

1117
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: And that's kind of what I feel happened in the

1118
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: veteran community. Like we've done the negative, negative, negative, like

1119
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: as much as okay, veteran suicide is a serious thing

1120
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: and we should always try and fix that and address them.

1121
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: But we've also used that messaging so much it's so

1122
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 1: profound it is in everyone's head that I believe we've

1123
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: almost created a self self fulfilling prophecy by giving others

1124
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: the answers that are finding crisis right. They didn't, they

1125
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: didn't learn how to be resiliency right, they didn't go

1126
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: to counseling whatever it is. And we have guys who

1127
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: are committing suicide. I believe that could have been preventable

1128
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: by the messaging. I believe we should highlight our successful veterans.

1129
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 1: I believe we should highlight how someone has made success

1130
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 1: after service, and they should be the light that people

1131
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: focus on and try and emulate and try and replicate. Right.

1132
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: But too, for so for so long, for how many years,

1133
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: so many companies and organizations have been developed to trying

1134
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: of attack this one issue, right, And I said, this

1135
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: is one issue in the mean, there's tons of issues, right,

1136
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 1: but this is one issue, and they've highlighted this issue

1137
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 1: to the point where even Hollywood only talks about veterans

1138
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: in a negative light. Veterans commit suicide because it right,

1139
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: And so what we've done is created this negative messaging

1140
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: that is absolutely ridiculously unhealthy subconsciously to veterans around the world.

1141
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: You can't avoid talking to anyone who talks about veterans

1142
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: and then doesn't add the twenty to a day, right,

1143
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: which that number we all know is kind of you know,

1144
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: is not accurate because when you can hear twenty two

1145
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: a day, you think about combat veterans who served in

1146
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 1: Iraq and Afghanistan. Not true, twenty two a day means

1147
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 1: anyone who has ever served and since when they did

1148
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: the original study, and so that means guys who have

1149
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: never even been to combat. So when you when you

1150
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: identify twenty two, you start thinking postmatic stress is untreated. Ye,

1151
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: how that happens? No, No, No, it's more than that.

1152
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: Americans has a national epidemic of suicide. Right. Suicide is

1153
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: the thing. We have to figure that out right as

1154
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 1: a whole. Right, And so do veterans commit suicide more

1155
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: often than villains. Yes, but you know veterans also do

1156
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: is find success and build million dollar companies and become

1157
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: you know, leaders in a church or become corporate managers. Right,

1158
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of doreneurs, yeah, NonStop for some reason. Yeah, yeah,

1159
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 1: we we both note tons of them. Right. The problem

1160
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 1: is everyone has jumped onto the negative messaging. You think

1161
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: about in the business if how would a business do

1162
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 1: if all they did was talk about how bad they are?

1163
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: That's not a good way to market a business. That's

1164
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: not a good way to get people to jump on board. Right.

1165
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: We inadvertently have told the communities that don't understand veterans,

1166
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: like civilians who who who care about us? We've told

1167
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: them we're broken. How is that going to be when

1168
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: you go and try and get hired at a job? Right,

1169
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: it's an accident. Right, We didn't mean to do this.

1170
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: We were like, it's just like, you know, you thought

1171
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: you were doing the right thing and then you see

1172
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: the negative backlash that happens from it, or or like

1173
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: the residual effects of telling someone their whole life that

1174
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: there you know, there's a chance it might be a statistic.

1175
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,720
Speaker 1: People start to believe it right. And so I created

1176
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: Better and to be a kind of a more of

1177
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: a positive outlook for veterans. Be better, do better, do

1178
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: more right. And so that's what better and dot com is.

1179
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: It's all it is. There's nothing, it's nothing fancy, it's

1180
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: just some shirts. I believe in every message I put

1181
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: on these shirts because I repped that. I wrap it

1182
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: as in the sense that I've either wrote it, I

1183
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: thought it, I created it. You know, I believe in it.

1184
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: I believe I'm only one veteran out of thousands and

1185
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: thousands and thousands who have found some relief after service

1186
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: and found a path that they have found some success in.

1187
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: And you know, because I have a platform, the biggest

1188
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: influences of our time is you know, film and television

1189
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: and social media. You know, I would love to see

1190
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: more film and television being told in an honest light

1191
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: and focusing on other problems, not just that, because we're

1192
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 1: more than that. We're there. There's more layers to a

1193
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: veteran than that. As at the same time, as social

1194
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: media influencers, I would hope that they stopped promoting such

1195
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: the negative side of who we are, right they start

1196
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: talking so much about the negative and not start talking

1197
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: about the positive. Like, start highlighting successful fucking dudes, so

1198
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 1: people have someone to look forward to, someone had. People

1199
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: are like, man, I want to be like him. I

1200
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 1: want to be like I mean, there's there's a list

1201
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: of them, like, I want to be like them. How

1202
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: do I be like them? What's the path that they took?

1203
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: What did they do to become like this this millionaire

1204
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: or or or just happy? How do they find happiness?

1205
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: Just Mickey Metal, right, it's like he became Mickey mental.

1206
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: You know. It's like, you know, Disney got a bad

1207
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: debt conduct discharge, but he's still Disney. He was in

1208
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,919
Speaker 1: the military. He had a story of his military career

1209
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: and it was a bad discharge, but he still did

1210
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: a crazy thing. Man. That's that's my point is like

1211
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 1: there's a lot of success and we have not done

1212
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 1: a good enough job and representing that veterans success, winners, winners, winners,

1213
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 1: and we should be highlighting the winners because that's going

1214
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: to give our young veterans opportunity. And you know what

1215
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,959
Speaker 1: the other residual effect is, you have less people wanting

1216
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: to enroll or or join the military. It is we've

1217
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: not met our numbers in recruiting. Why is that, Well, yeah,

1218
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: because everyone's like, oh, hell no, I'm not let my

1219
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: son join because you're gonna suid. Yeah, yeah, exactly, don't

1220
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 1: join the military brolitary And I'm like, cool, dude, I know, dude,

1221
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: someone's doing the most. And I said, go for a dude,

1222
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 1: let's let's find what job you want to do. And

1223
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: let's because it is given me opportunity. The military gives

1224
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: lower income opportunity that they never would have had. It

1225
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: is a jump in the social economic stance. It just

1226
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: is you want to find a way to make more

1227
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: money than your parents ever made if you're if you're

1228
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: in poverty, join the military. Smart job do you do

1229
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: do any Yeah, you don't have to be infantry. You

1230
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 1: can do you can be a rest toy therapist, right,

1231
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: That's my point. And then you get out and do

1232
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: that for Boeing and you're making good money. You know

1233
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like, you want to change your

1234
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: social economic position, be smart enough to join one of

1235
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: the military service and pick a job that you can

1236
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: get out and make eighty thousand a year. And you're

1237
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: gonna be like, damn that was a good choice. Speran.

1238
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: There's an it's hard for people. How do you get

1239
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: to be a sniper outside of being a sniper when

1240
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: there's like one on a police force. It's like, you

1241
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 1: gotta you know, and and these guys are real too,

1242
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 1: and I use the system. You gotta use the system.

1243
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: You gotta be used the system in a way where

1244
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: it's going to benefit you. And you know, I was

1245
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: not one of the smart ones who did that. I

1246
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: just did infantry ranger. But once I got out, and

1247
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: I was blessed to still be alive, right because you know,

1248
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: not everyone makes that makes it out of there. I

1249
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: was able to say, hey, here's what I'm gonna do

1250
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: with this opportunity. Keep going. And I just want others

1251
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: to believe in the same thing. I want others to

1252
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: see that they could do so much more with themselves,

1253
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: and that the only person is staying in the ways

1254
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: themselves and their their mindsets, their their ideologies that are

1255
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: completely wrong. It's totally it's true. It's true. And that's

1256
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: really good positive words that you just put out there too.

1257
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: I mean, if somebody doesn't encourage you, you may never

1258
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: try it. So let roco Let Vincent. Here be some

1259
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: encouragement in your voice. If you're listening to this and

1260
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: and go go try that. That what you're passionate about.

1261
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: If you're passionate about it, chances are you'll make it

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Speaker 1: successful because you believe in it so much, even if

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Speaker 1: somebody tells you you're never going to succeed at it. Hey,

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Speaker 1: do you like my business idea? It's this um that widget. No,

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Speaker 1: it's not blue enough. You're like, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: it is. I'm gonna walk away from you, and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna continue to pursue this widget. And then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, your widget takes off and it was the

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Speaker 1: right blue and everything that you thought about it was correct,

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Speaker 1: and all these naysayers out there just like that by

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Speaker 1: your stock. Yeah. I know. The last thing I'll say, Brad,

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Speaker 1: is this. When I wanted to try out for I

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Speaker 1: wanted to audition from Mayan's. I called someone that I

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Speaker 1: knew that was in Hollywood at some point, and they

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Speaker 1: were just you know, they knew the system. And he said,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't even try it, Dude, every hispanic in Hollywood

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Speaker 1: is trying I would just go for something else. And

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Speaker 1: I was like, Nope, I'm gonna try. That's what I

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Speaker 1: know herr I am five seasons later. That's what's up.

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Speaker 1: That's what you needed. And sometimes tell me no, that's

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Speaker 1: all I need to hear, tell me no, you know

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Speaker 1: you know so. But with that, Rocko, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: ahead and wind down our conversation, and I hope our

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Speaker 1: listener had a great time as I did interviewing and

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Speaker 1: chatting with you. I hope to have you back on

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Speaker 1: the show when you have time available in the future.

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Speaker 1: And we are going to be huge fans of yours.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna follow you all over social media. And I

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Speaker 1: just want to say thank you for being in our

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Speaker 1: United States military and providing the flag which I sleep

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Speaker 1: under every single night. So thank you. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. With that said, I'm gonna say this is

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Speaker 1: rad saying peace. You've been listening to self Recladia