1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Boulet cap Show, special guests in here, Buffalo's Finest, Griselda's 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: own the First Lady. Yes, Yes, Harmoni Caesar, how you doing. Welcome, 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: It's good to see you. Good to be here. Of course, 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: your new album is officially out, The Liz Too. Yes, 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: highly anticipated. Yes. How does it feel now that it's 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: out in the world and you're getting reception? Like, are 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: you are you happy with everybody's you know, take on it? Yeah, 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: I still feel like, you know, I've been in a 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: lot of love when it I still feel like it's 10 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: being digested because that's something that you got to listen 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: to a few times to really catch everything right, like 12 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: just the bars, metaphors, double entandras, but also like the 13 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: flow of it, Like it's really like in a sequence 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: of like events that were really happening, right, So you're like, 15 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: I feel like you are kind of an anomaly in 16 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: a crew like Griselda. Yeah, right, Like we think of Done, 17 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: we think of Conway A Benny, it's high level coke rap. 18 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: It's you know, yeah, it's we know what it is, right, 19 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: And then there's Armani Caesar, who's like, you know, one 20 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: of those pretty girls in hip hop and obviously you 21 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: could wrap your ass off, but you're also very much 22 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: like a different You're bringing something different to the crew. 23 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: When did you initially link up with Gun? And like, 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: how did you guys eventually get on each other's radar 25 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: to where you ended up working with Griselda officially? So 26 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: I met Gun back and when I was still living 27 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: in Buffalo, I was like a teenager and we met 28 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: through DJSHA. That's I met all the guys through DJSHA. 29 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: Was in a group all together called buff City. And 30 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: then once I left for school, and then everybody kind 31 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: of just banded, you know, did they own it? Was me? Conway? 32 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: Benny Hyde was in it? Rick was it? Yes? I 33 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: just realized that, and like it was like, uh, hooge crews. 34 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: Who else is in Above City? That's just prior to 35 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: you going to college, So this is like, how are 36 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: you like eighteen seventeen? Like seventeen, just turned seventeen? Wow? Okay, yeah. 37 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 1: So then I just kind of, you know, they met me. 38 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: I went in there for some studio time and they 39 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: had another rap chick in there at the time, and 40 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: Benny was like helping her write a verse or whatever 41 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: because she was gonna be like the first Lady above 42 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: City at the time, gotcha. So where they was like 43 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: they were going over the verse and it kept playing instrumental. 44 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: I wrote my own verse and then somebody heard me 45 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: rapping it and then Benny you know, came over heard 46 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: me tap shade like yo, like she fired s a 47 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: third long story short, I ended up in a group 48 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: just like that. Wow, So that was kind of like 49 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: the first time you had like really linked up with 50 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: the guys over there in general. Yeah. Yeah, So you 51 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: go to school, you said, North Carolina Central HBCU. Yep, 52 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: what were you going to school for? So I was, 53 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: I was a few things, but I ended up a 54 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: marketing major business administration with a concentration of marketing. But 55 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: like all of my prerecs were like, you know, pretty 56 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: much the same and like staples that you needed for 57 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: every class except for the hip hop and Context class. 58 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: There was a hip hop and context class teaching. Yeah, 59 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: I just saw him post that, so you never know 60 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: who's in the classroom. Yes, So it was crazy, like 61 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: because I even gave him the mixtape that I had 62 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: back in the day. It was called Back and body Work, 63 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: and you know he was he was showing love like 64 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: you know, he was still he was just real cool. 65 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: It was a bunch of people in the class, but essentially, 66 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: like it really kind of got me into a journey 67 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: of like going and doing my research on the rock 68 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: sand Chante's and see lights like the people that weren't 69 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: like mainstream, like the Kim's and Foxies. Right, So you 70 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: think like taking that class kind of helped you like 71 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: sharpen your hip hop head metal if you will for sure. 72 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: I mean we would just be walking into class and 73 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: like he would be playing a sample and then he 74 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: would played the song that sampled it, like you know 75 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: that kind of thing, Like, so that got me in 76 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: my sample bag. That got me like digging for beats 77 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: and like even inspiring me to just go back and 78 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: listen to old school music. So were you like motivated 79 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: to go check out Little brother at All his group? Yeah? 80 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: I love Little Brothers. Little Brother's one of my favorite 81 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: rap groups ever. Yeah, they was fired fontat They still 82 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: like they put a good ALBUMNT a couple years ago, 83 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: a few years ago before the pandemic, shoutout Fontine, Big Poop. Yes, 84 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,679 Speaker 1: I gotta check that out. Yeah, So you go to school, 85 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: you get the mark, you got a degree. No you 86 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: didn't finished. No, I didn't finish. Once I was told, like, 87 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: you know, I think this was like my junior year 88 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: and I was trying to figure out like what I 89 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: wanted to do, and I was just really going to 90 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: school just to appease my mother. And my advisor was like, 91 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: look like, I see how you go like in our 92 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: marketing class, and you could literally sell ice to Eskimos, 93 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: so like if you can market yourself, you could really 94 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: much pretty much do anything. And I guess he was 95 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: trying to motivate me, but it motivated me to like leave, 96 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: like say fuck this on the right move? Yeah, and 97 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: you got Now I see why you have your so success. 98 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: You got a damn Armani's closet. Yeah. Is this an 99 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: online store or an actual place that people can visit? 100 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: It's an online store. I'm working on making it like 101 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: a brick and mortar, but I wanted to be like 102 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: an experience that's super tight. Yeah. Okay, so you decided 103 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: to leave school. Yeah, at that point in time, you 104 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: stay in North Carolina, you go back home. What are 105 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: you doing? I just was going back and forth. I 106 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: was still kind of like working, and then I got 107 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: a job at a club, and it was just like 108 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: I was running it up, making money from there. And 109 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: what were you doing at the club. I was dancing. 110 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: You're stripping, Okay, so shouts all the ladies out there 111 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: geting that money. Yes, get that brig, get that bag. 112 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: My wife used to be a dancer, So no judgment here. 113 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, listen. I know more strippers making more 114 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: money than drug dealers to this day, and a lot 115 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: risky less risky. Yeah, even though, Yo, there's something about 116 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: strip club politics that because I used to do a 117 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: lot at strip clubs, so I've been in the locker rooms. 118 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: I've seen bitches beat the ship out of each other. 119 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, over like whose bucket got fuller from someone 120 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: making it rain? Like the strip cup politics are crazy. 121 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: I ended up getting fired. That's how I ended up 122 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: stopping because it was like so it was just I 123 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: hated my job, but it was like the money was 124 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: so good that I was like I was trying to 125 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: figure out how I could walk away from it for good, 126 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: because you know, you gonna stop a little bit here, 127 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: you need some money and go work for a weekend, yeah, 128 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: or just you know, you get a nigga. You you know, 129 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: you just be like, Okay, well I'm gonna start a 130 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: business that don't work out. You already know you're going 131 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: back to strip club? Wow? Why did you get fired? 132 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: Girl on her? Yeah, I mean at least she didn't 133 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: assault her. I mean you kind of did. Shouldn't beat 134 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: her up? No, I couldn't. It was like security. Yeah, 135 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: like that was the only way, like I could kind 136 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: of get to it. Was it over like some money? Yeah, 137 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: it was, of course, because that's the only reason why 138 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: I'm here, Like, give a fuck about you bitches, you 139 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: know why I'm here? Yeah? What city was this? This 140 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: isn't Charlotte, Charlotte? Yeah a CIAA weekends are probably this 141 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: as fuck. Oh man, it was going crazy. I mean 142 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: we was on like they would make like the news 143 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: like for people spending like hundreds of thousand dollars a 144 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: night on the weekend. It's crazy. What was the most 145 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: amount of money in your short lived dancing career that 146 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: you made in one night? Mmmm? Like a little over 147 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: twenty k Jesus Christ. Yeah, I would never quit. But 148 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: every night it don't be like that, tell you something. 149 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: I have my ass out until they would tell me 150 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: I had to leave, but you know, now you explains 151 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: why I didn't want to leave. It was like, you know, 152 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: get it. It's also like mentally taxing. I don't think 153 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: people understand, like your job is to like make like 154 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: like it's I can only my wife's explain it to me, 155 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: Like it is mentally taxing to like hit reset and 156 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: then try like you have to kind of be everybody's 157 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: fantasy slash counselor slash person they trust, like even if 158 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: it's for twenty minutes, like and you do that, however 159 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: long right, and it's like, fuck, it was a long night, 160 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: you know, Like yeah, and them black clubs is a 161 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: little bit different because, like you know, you gotta deal 162 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: with all the street ship that be coming into the club. 163 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: So the club I used to dj in Phoenix called 164 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: Jaguars Legendary Strip Club. It's very much the epicenter of 165 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: all of the street shit in Phoenix. Everybody comes there 166 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: at two am after the regular club gets out, and 167 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: everybody who's got beef with everybody is all in the 168 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: same fucking place every single fucking night. It's it's like 169 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: you could sometimes you can feel the fucking tension in there. Yeah, 170 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: it's like, oh shit, and imagine it's like you ain't 171 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: got no choice. You gotta get this mother fucking bag, 172 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: like you praying that niggas don't be shooting or you 173 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, for sure, it's crazy, 174 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: it's wild. Yeah, fights happen, like you said, people get right. Yeah, 175 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: I don't care about the fights. Maybe be the shooting 176 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: part for me. Yeah, yeah, I can imagine. Well, okay, 177 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 1: so you're dancing. At what point in time you get 178 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: so you got fired? Did you eventually say okay, I'm done? Yeah, 179 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: because it was like I wasn't about to work at 180 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: no rinky thing clubs. Like at the time, I was 181 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: like building my following the main spot, not even so 182 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: much at the main spot because a lot of people 183 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: didn't even know I danced, you know, because this time, Yeah, 184 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: I started rapping, like I kept rapping as soon as 185 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: I got down to North Carolina. I mean, you gave 186 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: Ninth Wonder your mixtape Bath and body Work, Yes, amazing. 187 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: I was popping big ships. Is this? Can we look 188 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: at album artwork anywhere on the internet? Yes? Unfortunately. Yeah, 189 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: if it's online, it's never going away. I know. That's 190 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: a great name though I know no for really, I 191 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: might have to name like a song now or something. 192 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: I got to google it real quick. Hold on, let's see. 193 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: I think it's streamable right now? Is it? Also? It's 194 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: on Bennie on their Conway on there. But like, I think, 195 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: what year did this drop? Two thousand and thirteen twelve 196 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: something like that? My goodness, Yeah, all right, look at that. Okay, 197 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: I see you, I see you in the tub. And 198 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: the thing about that is it was like a shout 199 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: out to Shay. He found his house in the hood. 200 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: I forgot it was one of his friend's house, but 201 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: it had like a jacuzie in it. It was like 202 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: one of them little like ratchet houses that looked like 203 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: a trap house. But then when you walk in it's 204 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: like renovated. So yeah, he let us borrow that to 205 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: do a little photo shoot. That's great. Well, damn, that's crazy. 206 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: That was nine years ago, so you're like a veteran. Definitely, 207 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: you were not new to this very much true to 208 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: this factual. Hey, what up, y'all? 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Wow. Yeah, so that 238 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: was like my first album placement. Then from there I 239 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: ended up like signing and getting a deal, but it 240 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: was like it was through somebody I don't want to 241 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: mention fuck them, but yeah, but essentially they left. They 242 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: were the VP at a big record label and ended 243 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: up leaving, And then my stuff was kind of like 244 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: in limbo for a year. So I was just sitting 245 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: like not doing shit. That happens a lot. It's like 246 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: the people that sign you, they get a better job 247 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: or they get fired, and then there's all these new 248 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: people that come in and they're like, well, we didn't 249 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: sign her. They don't they don't believe in you. The 250 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: same the people who signed you believe in right, right, 251 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: and if you signed through somebody else, like it don't 252 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: really make a difference because it ain't shipped that they 253 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: can do. They don't really have the ties. So so 254 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: you kind of went through like uh the full music 255 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: U industry experience. Yeah, like he was trying to like 256 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 1: stop bags. He was trying to stop people from sucking 257 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: with me. Like it was crazy. Really is this like 258 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: a famous person. I mean he's well known. He's not 259 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: like industry guy. He industry, but like behind the scenes industry. 260 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: But what was the label? It was a big one, 261 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 1: it was. It was one of the top five ones. Yeah, 262 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:51,359 Speaker 1: but yeah, fuck him because that did No it was 263 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: It wasn't Jay, it wasn't but like you know, no, 264 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: so it was Columbia, you know what. Anyway, But like 265 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: I actually seen him when I was doing the red 266 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: carpet at the BT Awards because I had to deciphering right, 267 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: and you know, it just was a good feeling. It 268 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: was just like, damn, you tried to stop and look 269 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: at me. Now, It's pretty crazy that someone would go 270 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: out of their way to try to stop money from 271 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: like a somebody who's just trying to make ends meet. 272 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: I mean it happens more often than not, especially the 273 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: females for sure. Yeah, I've gotten deal stopped because I 274 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: didn't want to fuck with executives. I've gotten deal stop 275 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: because obviously, you know, a person wasn't doing anything and 276 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: they just wanted me to just sit and wait like it. 277 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeah, there's a double standard with like women 278 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: in hip hop, where it's like, no matter what you do, 279 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: like people are always going to assume the not necessarily 280 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: the worst. But shit, I told you earlier. I was like, 281 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: I forgot. He told me that you and Kodak had 282 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: a song coming out because you were supposed to come 283 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: up here like a month ago or something, and he 284 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: was like, well, we're waiting for this Kodak great, get cleared. 285 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: But then I just saw the video that you posted 286 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: a Kodak braiding your hair. I was like, damn Kodaks 287 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: Dayton RMANI Caesar Kodak is just a certified lover boy. 288 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: So I think he just give off that like flirty energy. Yeah, 289 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: shot out to him. He's I mean he bought Shannon 290 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: Brown'sa's wife Monica person the other night. Yeah, but he's 291 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: sweet like that though, like He's the type that you 292 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: don't even have to be with him, like he just hm, 293 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: he did the record. I was happy enough with that. No, 294 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: it wasn't free, but you know, he just looked out 295 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying for for a person that's 296 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: still underground and stuff like that. Like, and I slid 297 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: in his DM. I was like, yo, like cause I 298 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: was listening to you know, the album, and I'm like, damn, 299 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: like we need a couple more features just to wrap 300 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: this up. And I was just like, well fuck it. 301 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm just so yeah, let's just see what happens. He 302 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: hit me right back, and I sent the song. I'm like, 303 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: let me know if you're fucking with it. He sent 304 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: me right back. He was just like, I'm about to 305 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: stretch to be I'm gonna send it back to you. 306 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: He sent it in like three hours. Oh ship yep. 307 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: And then the next maybe like a week or two later, 308 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: pulled up and did the video. Yo. That doesn't happen usually, never, 309 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: like especially in an artists that big, Like usually you're 310 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: like waiting like two months or something. You're like, Yoda, 311 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: forget niggas that ain't even as big as that. Conway, 312 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: don't do Conway. Conway did take way longer to do it. 313 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: I know he did. Conway takes way longer than everybody. 314 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: But I love I love Conway. Conway. I love him 315 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: as well. But like, even with all the backlash that 316 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: Kodak was getting at the time, you know, I was 317 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: kind of like Leary, like, you know, not so much 318 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: Leary because I know that. I'm mean, I know how 319 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: I carry myself. So oh, was this during the uh 320 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: like when there was they were trying to there was 321 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: somebody were they trying to like paint him out to 322 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: be the Yeah. I don't know who it was, but 323 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: it was, Yeah, I think it was something like that. 324 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: But I was gonna say, like, is it, like, are 325 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: you starting to you gotta I feel like as a 326 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: as a woman in hip hop, you have to have 327 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: thick skin and you gotta kind of like understand like 328 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: whether it's right or wrong, people are gonna look at 329 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 1: you a certain way up until they hear your music. 330 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I think me coming down to North Carolina 331 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 1: and not knowing nobody and having to establish myself with 332 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: the DJs, with even my studio sessions, like locking that 333 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: shit down for ten hours at a time, you're making Yeah, 334 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: but it's like how you carry yourself, like, you know, 335 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: I don't move like how everybody moves, So people know 336 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: not to play with me. Even if it's like at 337 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: first you think, oh shit, like she fired, I'm gonna 338 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: shoot my shot, It's like once you see that I'm 339 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: really about business, then you ain't gonna play with me. 340 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: Like that was a when did you How long did 341 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: you guys shoot the video? We shot it Native America 342 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: weekend in Philly. When was that? That was? Like? That 343 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: was like in September September. First, I want to say, yeah, yeah, 344 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: I remember that weekend. Yeah, that's dope. So it was 345 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: all in Philly. Yep, that's what's up for you? Do 346 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: you do you like? Were you always kind of like 347 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: cause you are very good at skating over beats that 348 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: you would not expect women who look like you to 349 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: wrap over. Were you always in that bag with like 350 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: the Darringer type sound or was that something that like 351 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: once you officially came full circle signed with Griselda, that 352 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: you embraced a little bit more. Cause you're living in 353 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: North Carolina, you're in the strip club. Music's a certain way, 354 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: So I think I was doing that beforehand. Like again, 355 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: going back to my first project that I ever did 356 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: with buff City, it was like we was wrapping over Heartbeat, 357 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: So you know, of course when I moved down there, 358 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: it was like then I learned how to like ride 359 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: that wave. So now it's like I have an equal 360 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: balance of both. And when I moved over to you know, 361 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: when I actually signed to Griselda, it was like, you know, 362 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: I was excited to do it just because there was 363 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: already a lane for me open there versus me trying 364 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: to like start off and do that by myself in 365 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: North Carolina. So I think walk into a pretty rapid 366 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: fan base. Yeah, that was crazy. The Griselda fans are. 367 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: They're very dedicated, but I love them now. At first, 368 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: they was a little mean to me when I first signed, 369 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: mean because I looked like this and they thought that 370 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: I couldn't wrap. Yeah, they probably wanted you to be like, 371 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: you know, two hundred and eighty pounds lesbian. Yes, I 372 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: wanted you to look like Queen La and set it 373 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: off right or be like super you know, yeah, yeah 374 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: for sure, Yo, what what is going on with Grizzelda? 375 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: They're over here signing pretty girl, right They like, is 376 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: she gonna be the backup dancer? Oh, they only signed 377 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: her because she's pretty. They're gonna be writing her rhymes. 378 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,479 Speaker 1: So like the first LISZ was me just proving all 379 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: that shit wrong. So that's why I came out swinging, 380 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: like I mean yeah, and you did a good job 381 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: with that. Thank you? Do you can you share some 382 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: of the insight because I feel like Gun is somebody 383 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: who is influenced, so influencing a lot of culture in 384 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: hip hop, whether or not people want to't acknowledge it. 385 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: He's very smart. He's a master curator. Of course he's 386 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 1: an incredible rapper as well, but just in terms of 387 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: just like his mark being prow as, his business prowers. 388 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: Like what are some of the things that you were 389 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: able to pick up from him since recent like since 390 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: again coming to Griselda officially, just watching watching the moves 391 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: that he makes, Watching how he knows how to like 392 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,239 Speaker 1: cultivate you know, artwork and you know bridge it with 393 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: the music. Knowing like his influence like over the Griselda 394 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: fans and how like they're very big on just the suspense, 395 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: the the merch, you know, like those are all things 396 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: that like a lot of new age people aren't really doing, 397 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 1: and me, as a woman and as an entrepreneur, like 398 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: that's always motivation because I want to take what he 399 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: doing and take it even further, you know what I'm saying, 400 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: and even do it my way. Because I'm a woman, 401 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: I won't see no woman moving like that, So I 402 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: want to be like the female. 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Guy's got paintings 452 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: fucking everywhere. Was that like a collaborative idea or did 453 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: you just kind of let gun handle curate in the art. 454 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: I let Gun curate the art. Obviously it was kind 455 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: of like easier moving onto the list too, because it 456 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: was kind of like we're going to continue with the 457 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: same makes sense, But you know, the art thing is 458 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: still something that I'm like learning about, like what makes 459 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: things like what makes people want to buy that? Because 460 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: everybody can do art, but it's like, are you going 461 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: to get people to actually want it? Is it going 462 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: to be like ope is going to be understood by people? 463 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: Came along way from Bath and Body Work, Yes, for sure, 464 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: in the in the tub. And I didn't want to 465 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: be on my first album, you know, because I feel 466 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: like people was gonna look at it and be like, 467 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: m this ain't gonna sound like what I think is 468 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: gonna sound like or what it does does sound like? Right? Uh? 469 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: For you? Who would you consider some of your biggest 470 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: influences just as an MC, jay Z, nas Wayne, fab Nikki, 471 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: Foxy Remy, Missy Elliott. Yes, I love her. That's a 472 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: fab to not enough people say fab yeah, No for real, 473 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: like out of world styles, p Jada Kiss Like I 474 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: just I love people that's barred up, you know. I 475 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: like people like a jay Z or even Dre that 476 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 1: can like transcend sounds, but it still sounds like them, 477 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: that's true. It's a hard thing to do. Yeah, yeah, Drake. 478 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: I think Drake's the best of that. Mm hmmm. So 479 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, Drake could do a bad bunny song and 480 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, this just sounds like something Drake would 481 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: have did because he was like because it's natural to him, 482 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: Like why not. You know, there's not a lot of 483 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: guys who could really pull off as much shit as 484 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: Drake and it not be like like you would not 485 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: like like if jay Z jumped on a bad bunny song, 486 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: we probably all would look at him and be what's 487 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: happening here? What's going on here? Why is Jaz speaking Spanish? Right? 488 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,239 Speaker 1: But does it? And it's like it's Drake. Yeah, I 489 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: just assumed Drake knows every language. Like if he hopped 490 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: on like somebody from like Hungary's fucking song like Tomorrow, 491 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: I'll be like, yeah, I'd be like, yeah, Drake knows Hungary, 492 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: and of course he does. He's Drake, He's worldly. Yes. 493 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: And I gotta say the guys too, like Benny and 494 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: Conway obviously, like I've been studying them since I was, 495 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: you know, young, Like even now, I listen to they 496 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: music before I start writing sometimes, I like, it does 497 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: help when you have two of the best rappers alive 498 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: in your crew. And like, in my opinion, I always 499 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: say Conway is like Conway is. I just think Conway 500 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: is just his like ability to convey pain on songs 501 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: is like second to none, and I think that's such 502 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 1: a special attribute and like it makes people like I've 503 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: seen motherfuckers crying in the crowd when he's performing the 504 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: cow and shit, you know what I'm saying. So that's 505 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: good to like pick up on and just be around. 506 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: So all right, So you have a song with Kodak Black, 507 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: which means that there's a lot of eyes on what 508 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: you're doing right now, and you got the video yes, 509 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: which is a great feat for an independent artist like yourself. 510 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: Are you feeling any pressure for like maybe the next 511 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: go round to do a little bit like more commercial shit, 512 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: even though I feel like you did do a little 513 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: bit more of that on this project, but like in 514 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: terms of like, you know, do you see yourself doing 515 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: something like that? Yeah, Like it just really depends on 516 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 1: how I'm feeling, you know. Again, Like I was doing 517 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: the commercial shit more so before I got signed anyway, 518 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: So it was always a part of the plan. Like 519 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: the thing was with west Side. He was always like, 520 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: you know, you like the star player because if I 521 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: go and do a song with you know, Taylor Swift, 522 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: they gonna look at me like I'm crazy. But you know, 523 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: you do it and it's going to make sense because 524 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: you know how to do both, you know what I'm saying, 525 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: So you're kind of able to like even bridge the 526 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: gap between Griselda fans and mainstream by doing the things 527 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: that you're doing and being a female artist that can 528 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 1: actually rap that looks good, that you know, can sing, 529 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: that you know, writes all her own music. So it 530 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: was pretty much just like easy. So I do plan 531 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: on like getting into the more mainstream stuff. But it's 532 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: also like I think being in the strip club as 533 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: long as you have like you also like whether you 534 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: want to, like you actually kind of like low key 535 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: becoming a and R in there, you know what I yeah, yeah, 536 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: and like you kind of start to understand music and 537 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: like how like what makes people react to certain ship 538 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: in the club or what music is you know who Look, look, 539 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: I always talk about this with people. I think Future 540 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 1: is the greatest club artists of all time. I think 541 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: it's Future number one and then everybody. I mean, you 542 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: can figure out who the rest is. But I think 543 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: Future is the greatest club artist ever. It depends on 544 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: the type of clubs I go to, at least it depends. 545 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: It's like you gotta, I don't know, so many things 546 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: go into that. It's like the era because you know, 547 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: Rick Ross and Jeezy had to gain in the choke 548 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: hold for as far as the strip clubs that I 549 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: used to work at, because it was all dope boys 550 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: that's all they wanted to hear or boosy. Yeah, yeah 551 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: you were, you were in North Carolina. Yeah, but like 552 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: actual like mainstream stuff. You're absolutely like Future for sure. 553 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: Drake for sure, because you got Drake gonna get the 554 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: ladies like Future Drake. Little Baby, I don't think he's 555 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: quite there yet. Club boys, real, he's up there, he's 556 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: up there, but he's he's up there. But little John, 557 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: little John for sure. That's why I said eras because 558 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: Little John had everything in the cold. The greatest club 559 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: song ever, though an old one. It's old back that 560 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: ass up by Juveniles. The number one song in club history. Yeah, 561 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: for sure. No matter what club you're in, it could 562 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: be the most ratchet place in the world. It could 563 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: be fucking the most high end club in the visa. 564 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: If they play back that ass up, it's okay, oh 565 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: for sure, because it's just you're gonna immediately run to 566 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: the dance floor. Just you gotta like turn around, get 567 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: that one last little song in before you leave, Like 568 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: that's the one that's the one that's gonna turn him around. 569 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: Anything Like you obviously you have your boutique, your online boutique, 570 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: anything else you're working on besides the online clothes, Just 571 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: expanding the brand, like leveling up like everything that I'm 572 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: doing as far as like my music, my shows, my 573 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: you know, my brand, my boutique. Just trying to just 574 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: capitalize on the platform that I already have, so taking deals, 575 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: whether it'll be a movie, you know, merch you know, 576 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,959 Speaker 1: collapse and stuff like that. Like I want to get 577 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: into more beauty stuff. Like I'm just taking my brain 578 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: and expanding it to the next level. Hey, we gotta 579 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: stop the interview real quick to tell you about our 580 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: partners at odd Socks are presenting sponsor here at the 581 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: Bootleg Hit podcast. 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You've 601 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: never heard her do that. Yeah, it was a guy 602 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: that I knew from New York, and he knew somebody 603 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: that she knew, and I think she had seen like 604 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: a picture of me or something like that long story 605 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: short that got us on the phone, and she just 606 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: showed so much love. She was just super like, yo, 607 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: you fire like even your look or remind me of 608 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: like something I would do, Like she was just real. 609 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: Do you feel like I feel like there's like this 610 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: weird civil war between like Cardi B and Nicki Minaj 611 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: and whoever they're friends with all at the same time. 612 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: It's very it's very frustrating. It's just someone who likes 613 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: both of them or it's just like guys, yeah, I 614 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: get it, but it's just like, man, it just feels 615 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: like it just feels like it's like the most like 616 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: weirdly catty situation on Twitter every other week where I'm 617 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: just like, why is who's Cardy beefing with? Now? Who's 618 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: Nicki beefing with? Now? Why can't everyone just get along? 619 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: And I know that it like, I mean, it's a 620 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: female it's it's not a female rapper thing men men beef, 621 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: But I'm saying I'm speaking at it from like somebody 622 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: who loves female mcs when you see something like that, 623 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: like not necessarily specific to either of them, because I 624 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: ain't trying to get you caught up with no barbs 625 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: in it, but in terms of, like, you know, just 626 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: kind of the beef between a lot of female rappers, 627 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: Are you like trying to avoid that at all costs, 628 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: or you know, just trying to avoid any kind of negativity. 629 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, it's the blessing to be 630 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: able to get paid for doing what I'm doing, and 631 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: like you just gotta pay attention to the things that matter, 632 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: like that beef shit, who don't like you? Who's fucking who? Who? Like? That? 633 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: Shit don't matter to me. I ain't never been in 634 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: no drama like that in my personal life, so I'm 635 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: definitely not gonna do it at work. Yeah, Yo, I 636 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: saw when the shooting happened in Buffalo. I saw you 637 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: had said that when you were growing up, you worked 638 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: at not that same location, but you worked at a 639 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: different one of those. Yeah. That was obviously an extremely 640 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: That was a pretty crazy day. Were you when that happened? No, 641 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: but my mom, well, first my grandmother had called me. 642 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: I was getting on a plane. I actually was on 643 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: my way to a show because this was during like 644 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: the Griselda tour. And my grandmother called me and was like, hey, 645 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: can you turn a new because she don't she like 646 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: stupor she don't do no internet, she don't do nothing. 647 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: She was like, Yo, I heard that it was a 648 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: shooting or something at a grocery store. Can you look 649 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: it up? So then I looked it up and I 650 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: seen that it was at Tops and this Tops is 651 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: around the corner from where like my mom lives at Wow. 652 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: So like and then I called my mom and just 653 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: check on her because she goes there all the time. 654 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: And my mom was like hysterical and crying and she 655 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: was like I was on my way there, and this, 656 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: that and the third. It was just it was a lot. Yeah, 657 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 1: Now that shit was terrible. Your mom was on the 658 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: way there, Jesus. Yeah. And it's not like again, you 659 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: can get anywhere in Buffalo ten to fifteen minutes. So 660 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: just imagine, like you live around a corner, you right 661 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 1: there and then you see in all these cop cars 662 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: and it was crazy. It was bodies out there. It 663 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: was just wild. Yeah, Buffalo is a place that, like 664 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: I said, I went there for a couple of days 665 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: and I really liked it. Like I really thought Buffalo 666 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: was like a vibe and I didn't know what to 667 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 1: expect going there, but it was very Uh it wasn't 668 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: as cool as I thought it was going to be, 669 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: as we discussed. The food was solid, but it just 670 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: felt like its own. Pl into Detroit before and I've 671 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: heard people compare Detroit and Buffalo, but I just felt 672 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: like its own thing. Like what part of Buffalo are 673 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: you from? I'm from the east side of Buffalo, Like 674 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: I grew up in a fruit belt and you know, 675 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: I stayed like like in the east side, like they 676 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 1: call it a booktown, cold Springs, I stayed in the area. Nice. 677 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: What's first of all next for you music wise? You're 678 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: working this album. I'm sure there's more music videos coming. 679 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: Are you already recording new shit? Oh yeah, it's already 680 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: in a clip. I'm dropping Top of the year already. 681 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna let y'all wait two years for no nothing, 682 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 1: no more. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It was a long way. Yeah, 683 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:43,240 Speaker 1: why the way? Well, it was a lot that happened, obviously, 684 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: Like it was mid pandemic, so it was a lot 685 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: of things that needed to be worked out with that. 686 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: But I just think now, like I'm just more hands 687 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: on with my shit. I'm more in charge of of 688 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: my shit, Like even when it came down from everything 689 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: from like my rollout, you know, I had my team 690 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: or whatever, so shout out to them, but you know, 691 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: my mixes, to the content that I was dropping, to 692 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: my feature like to everything. Like, you know, I'm really 693 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 1: more so hands on with mine, and I think that 694 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: that's important for a lot of women to do. Just 695 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: be in charge of your own shit for the first 696 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 1: album where you're not like as hands on. Well, the 697 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: first album was kind of the fuck fucking galaxies always 698 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: fucking see that's why you need an iPhone. I kind 699 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: of both Oh okay, so heavy, nah, but the first 700 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: one was really like cutting dry was super easy. I 701 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: didn't obviously have as much of a rollout as I 702 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: did with this one. But I recorded that Lives in 703 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: about seven days, not even seven days, three days. I 704 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: told Wes I was gonna give him seven days because 705 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: I was scared to come outside after I got COVID, 706 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: And then well, you recorded the first album in three days? Yeah, wow, yep, 707 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: we drove to what we call the five. It's in Atlanta, 708 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: and it's like an abasement in one of West houses 709 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 1: and it's like super grimy, like don't watch TV, Travis. 710 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: He did like most of the graffiti artwork in there, 711 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: got all the artwork up there. They got like a 712 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: green light that's like super muddy and it's just a vibe. 713 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: So I gave myself seven days to do it. I 714 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: left in three because I had my boutique that had 715 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: just started and I needed to get back to that. 716 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: And you know, long story short, you know, when it 717 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,479 Speaker 1: was time to like package up everything, you know, West 718 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 1: kind of like handled everything with that. Even with some 719 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 1: of the beats I was doing. I didn't even know 720 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: my first single was a promo beat until after I 721 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 1: had recorded it, because it didn't have no scratches on it, 722 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,720 Speaker 1: or you didn't know you were wrapping on a premiere 723 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: beat when you're no. He was because it didn't have 724 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: no scratch. You know, he's got the hooks, Yeah, he was, 725 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: just like after I recorded it, we listened back to it, 726 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: he was like, Oka, I'm gonna send this to Primo 727 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 1: so you can put the scratches on it. And I 728 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: turned around, I'm like, yeah, which Premo? Were we talking 729 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 1: about Yeah. I'm like, nah, let me do it over again. 730 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 1: He was like, nah, it sounds amazing. Like that was 731 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: one project where it was like I didn't do a 732 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: lot of singing on it anything like that. It was 733 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: just pretty much like bars and you know, as far 734 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 1: as like the concept and everything like that, like Wes 735 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 1: did it and it's this time around. It was like, okay, well, 736 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to be more like female empowerment. I wanted 737 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: to be more like me, like telling my story for real. 738 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to open up on different songs. That's why 739 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: you got songs like Lpuro with me and Conway going 740 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: back and forth on some like almost like a relationship 741 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: type of song. You know, I'm singing a lot more 742 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: on it. I mean, I got a song called First 743 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: Wives Club on it. It's literally saying like nigga, I'm 744 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: not your bitch. So but the guys love it. Wait 745 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: wait wait wait First wives Club? What is the theme 746 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: of the song. So it's like a women's empowerment song. 747 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 1: I called it First wives Club because I'm saying like 748 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: you don't own me. And I heard that song originally 749 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: on the First Wives Club movie and got yeah, and 750 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 1: I got into haun. Yeah, what was the other? I 751 00:38:55,360 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 1: don't remember. That's one of one of Yes, she's so bad. 752 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: But you ever been married or close to getting married? Yes, 753 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 1: so you've been married. You've been married in your day. 754 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: I've been close to being married. Not actually married though. 755 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: So you got you were engaged? Yeah, something like that. 756 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: I mean, did you have a ring? We was close again, man, 757 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: it was a very very close relationship. Did you have 758 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 1: a ring? Yes, I'm always gonna have a ring. Well, well, 759 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: so you were engaged. Yeah, So what happened? He cheated? 760 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: It just didn't work out, damn. Yeah, we just went 761 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: into two separate paths. Yeah. But God bless him. He's 762 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,959 Speaker 1: doing really well. So well, that's good. That's positive. Usually 763 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: when that kind of thing happened, you're like, yo, fuck him. 764 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: He ain't shipped, by the way, track hates about that. 765 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,479 Speaker 1: I mean, I get to get that out in my music. 766 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: But that's why I don't never feel no way like 767 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: I get over shit very quick. I don't stay mad 768 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: a long. That's straight to have. Yeah, because you can't. 769 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: You have a short memory. I got a I don't 770 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 1: got a shore memory with stuff that matters. But a 771 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,959 Speaker 1: lot of shit is just like I'll be over because 772 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 1: I'll be having so much other shit going on in 773 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: my life, like that actually matters and requires my attention 774 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 1: and for me to show up and be happy and 775 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: shit that I can't afford to waste my time being 776 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: mad or bitter or anything like that Like that ain't 777 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: gonna get me no money, and it's only gonna make 778 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,359 Speaker 1: even more bad shit come your way. What up, y'all, 779 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: We gotta stop the interview real quick. Tell you about 780 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: our good friends at my Bookie. 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Let's get back to the interview. 799 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 1: You feel like now that you're you have like a 800 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 1: high profile as an artist, is it take a special 801 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,720 Speaker 1: type of dude to like get down with Harmaney Caesar 802 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 1: because he has to kind of understand that you're a 803 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 1: boss bitch, that you got this thriving rap career, that 804 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: you're a public figure. Like there's so many things that like, 805 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 1: like I think when I think of like, uh, you know, 806 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: powerful women intimidate men. It just is what it is. Yeah, 807 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, it's difficult for a man to day 808 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: a woman because I think, at least in my case, 809 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: it's already like guy's gonna judge you off of how 810 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: you look anyway and expect you to be a certain way, 811 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: not realizing like you know, I actually am an avid reader. 812 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: I like deep conversations. I like you know what I'm saying, 813 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,439 Speaker 1: they may look at me and judge me based off 814 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 1: of you know, Instagram or whatever the case may be. 815 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 1: Like a lot of guys don't really get to know 816 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: me for me. Yeah, so they think like, oh man, 817 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: I gotta have like my bag up, I gotta get 818 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: her to say, I gotta get her that. And it's like, well, 819 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 1: or we could just have a nice conversation that, yeah, 820 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: can we can? We can we carry an hour conversation 821 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: where I'm not bored and want to kill myself? Yeah, 822 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,320 Speaker 1: I mean that's why. But I write songs about that 823 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 1: all the time, Like that's where the Liz Love's Luger 824 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 1: song came from. Like I just wanted to loyalty. I 825 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: want all of that stuff too, because obviously, like if 826 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it for myself, I want whoever is 827 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: around me to be able to love on me like 828 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 1: how I love on me. But I think, you know, 829 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: it's better stuff, like bigger stuff that matters. I think nowadays, 830 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: you know, relationships are so transactional, like and social media 831 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: only perpetuates that they don't know, So now you don't 832 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 1: really know how to deal with people on just a 833 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 1: regular human basis without it being a transit. Yeah. Yeah, 834 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: what's the uh, what's the ulterior motive? What can I 835 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: get out of this? Yeah? A lot of men are paying, 836 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: you know, to get with the girls of their dreams, 837 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,919 Speaker 1: and a lot of women are getting paid for their pain. 838 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,800 Speaker 1: What is you say? You're avid reader? What do you 839 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: like to read? What kind of books you reading? Books 840 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: that's just gonna make me boss up? Like the Game 841 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,839 Speaker 1: of Life and how to Play It. That's a real 842 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:43,919 Speaker 1: good one. The Alchemist Gucci Man Guid's Greatness was good. 843 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: I just read that. I just read A Perfect Day 844 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:50,720 Speaker 1: to Boss Up by Rick Ross. Self help books. Self 845 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 1: help books, Yeah, for sure, I mean hood book. There's 846 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,359 Speaker 1: a book called The Subtle Art to Not Giving a Fuck? 847 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:58,800 Speaker 1: Have you heard of that book? I heard of it, 848 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 1: but I didn't read it. It's a pretty okay. I 849 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,359 Speaker 1: think I already know how to not give a fuck. 850 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,279 Speaker 1: I mean that's fair. Like I haven't been giving a 851 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: fuck since I was like twelve. Oh shit, So, like 852 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 1: you know, it was still a good book though. That's fine. 853 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lookt I'm gonna read it. Yeah, what about 854 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: do you what do you binge watching when you're watching TV, 855 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: any shows you just fucking love that you just can't 856 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: get enough of. I'm a fucking geek kind of like 857 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 1: low key when it comes to shit like that, Like 858 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: what are you watching where you geek out over? I 859 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: watch like cinema, sins prims, hood media. It's like this 860 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:40,959 Speaker 1: they do like reviews on like hood movies. I haven't 861 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 1: heard of this, Yeah, Like it's I like shit like that. 862 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 1: I like a lot of things that like are documentaries 863 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 1: or like things I'm gonna learn from things I didn't know, 864 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 1: especially like if it's my favorite movie, things that I 865 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: didn't even notice, or like any kind of like weird 866 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: quirky facts that you may never know. Like, I like 867 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 1: shit like that. What's your favorite movie? I got so 868 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 1: many favorite movies, give me three of them. I like 869 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 1: Friday After Next. That's a great one. Harlem Nights, great one, 870 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:20,919 Speaker 1: and Ming Girls, Hey heat it is it's fire. Hey 871 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 1: Friday after Next though, that's that's uh. I mean, I'm 872 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 1: og Friday. I like all the Fridays, all three, all 873 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 1: the Fridays for sure. I think it's Friday, Friday after next, 874 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: the next Friday. See. I like Friday after Next because 875 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 1: it can be a Christmas movie. It is a Christmas movie, 876 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 1: and you know, just a regular you know, Williams coming 877 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 1: out parties. Oh my gosh, fire Money Mike. Yeah, shout 878 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: out to Money Mike. Well look, I appreciate you pulling 879 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 1: up the list. Two is out, Yes, go get that, 880 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 1: go run it up. More videos on the way, yes, 881 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: more video you got some some surprises also, uh new 882 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 1: music top of the year. Yes, for sure. You're not 883 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,280 Speaker 1: gonna make everybody. I mean, listen if you record albums 884 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 1: in three days. I mean, but this is one I'm 885 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 1: taking my time with. I think I'm you know, I'm 886 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 1: more so intentional about it, like cause I'm I'm I 887 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 1: already showing people I know how to rap right now. 888 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:17,279 Speaker 1: It's about making songs and good songs versus you know, 889 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 1: just giving people bars. I'm gonna get you bars in between. Anyway. 890 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 1: You're a superstar. Thank you. You gotta Yeah, so you've 891 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 1: proven the rapping part, thank you. Now you just gotta 892 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 1: put them hits out, okay, cause I'm trying to get 893 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 1: on some of these movie soundtracks. I need a movie contract. 894 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get in you know, all of it, 895 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 1: all of that stuff there it is Harmoni sees appreciate 896 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 1: you coming through boom fire,