1 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: Welcome in to jag Zam. 2 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: I'm kan Nannie Stevens, Brian Sexton and John Oser are 3 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: with me. It's week fifteen and Jaguars were winners last 4 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: week against the Titans. We're gonna get right into things 5 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: with our big things and the first one is want 6 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: to There's still four games left for the season, no 7 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: postseason chances, but this team is focused on what is ahead. 8 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: You get asked a lot about your team and where 9 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 3: we are on our record and this and that. But 10 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: I mean, you guys see it when you watch the game. 11 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 3: Our guys they fight to the end. They don't quit, 12 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 3: they battle. Yesterday we were able to make the place 13 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 3: right at the end of the game. Defense stepped up 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 3: huge at the end to really you know that fourth 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 3: and two, you know throw and then the last one 16 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: at the end of the game game you know what 17 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: about the eight or nine yard line there, you know 18 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 3: to stop him on fourth down as well. You know, 19 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: those are all plays and things that we keep talking about, 20 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: and yesterday we were able to finish that and finish 21 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 3: the game, and then that was really good to see. 22 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: Brian. 23 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: At this point in the season, I think every game 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: it's almost like is this the point where things kind 25 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: of drop off, but they still have four games left 26 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 2: and we're still. 27 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: Seeing that effort there. Obviously, we saw it last week 28 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: in Nashville. 29 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 4: You know, Kyle, we talk all the time about how 30 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 4: many young players there are in this roster who are 31 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 4: starting to climb a little bit. You know, we've seen 32 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 4: Brian Thomas Junior all season long, and Teg Bigsby when 33 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 4: he's been healthy in the lineup. Last week, we saw 34 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 4: Jerry and Jones. We've seen Ventrel Miller, Brenton Strange. These 35 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 4: guys they're too new in this thing to understand this. 36 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 4: They what they know is is they go out and 37 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 4: play football on Sundays. And that's why I think you 38 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 4: still see a lot of the fight because there are 39 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 4: plenty of young guys on this roster who are still 40 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 4: trying to prove themselves. 41 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. 42 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 6: I've always thought that once you get to game day, 43 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 6: players instinctively want to win. Sometimes during this time of year, 44 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 6: it's when you're trying to get to game day, there's distractions. 45 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 6: I've always thought that there's sometimes not pulling in the 46 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 6: same direction. 47 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 5: But they all want to win. They all want to 48 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 5: put good tape out. 49 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 6: So far, it still feels like there's a togetherness and 50 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 6: there's a collective want to the players insistill be there. 51 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 6: So look, in four games left in the season. History 52 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 6: tells us that when you're out of it, there'll be 53 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 6: a stinker somewhere and there'll be a couple where it 54 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 6: all sort of stays together and they win. I expect 55 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 6: them to win a couple of games, and I'll watch 56 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 6: the stinker. 57 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 5: When it has. Are you telling me there's another one coming? 58 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 5: Didn't we see that in Detroit? 59 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 6: Well, they weren't out of it yet, pointing when you're 60 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 6: out of it. Human nature says there's gonna be a 61 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 6: letdown at some point. But yeah, but Brian, to your point, 62 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 6: there's been some stinkers. You're three and ten, something's gonna stink. 63 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 2: That was a big enough singer. I don't think we 64 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: need another one. What a big big number two, which 65 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: is rookies. We're talking about energy from this team, a 66 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: lot of that coming from the younger players, one of 67 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: them having one of his best games so far. Jarion 68 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: Jones talked about the sacking dot. 69 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 7: Coach have been calling that pressure a little bit throughout 70 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 7: the game, but he never lined up with me being 71 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 7: to be in the blizz So this with the perfect 72 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 7: time they lined up with me being a bliss and 73 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 7: a little bit. That's kind of like one of my 74 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 7: favorite days to do. So when the opportunity came, I 75 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 7: made share with one of my best blisters. 76 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,399 Speaker 2: John Jarion Jones. They were forcing the ball to Ryan 77 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: Thomas Junior. A lot of rookies had a good day 78 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 2: in Nashville last week. 79 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 5: Yeah give me fifty three. Uh, Jaron Jones is right. 80 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 6: I mean, I think fans are starting to get the idea, 81 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 6: this is the guy that's gonna be easy to pull 82 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 6: forward going forward. And I did write it for Sunday 83 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 6: that I thought the theme of the game was Brian 84 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 6: Thomas Junior on offense, Jaron Jones on defense. 85 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: Uh. 86 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 6: Without either of those guys, they don't win that game. 87 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 6: And Uh, all week, Brian, I've been saying, and we've 88 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 6: talked about it, it's fun to watch these guys who 89 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 6: instinctive football players. To use an old cliche, you get 90 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 6: the idea that if you're all sitting around and said, hey, 91 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 6: let's go play some football outside for free, they'd be 92 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 6: all in immediately. 93 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 5: So they're fun to watch. 94 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 4: I think we've covered most of these young guys, but 95 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 4: there are a few that I'd still like to see 96 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 4: more of in the final month. John. I'd like to 97 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 4: see Keilan Robinson, who's now active and we had been 98 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 4: told back in training camp there was a situational role 99 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 4: for him in the offense. 100 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 5: Maybe we see that. 101 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 4: Would like to see some more of Jordan Jefferson, the 102 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 4: young defensive tackle who when he was in in mid 103 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 4: October to mid November, made some plays, got a sack, 104 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 4: powerful guy, really strong. Give me DeAndre Prince, you know, 105 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 4: the fifth round pick from Mississippi, Who's a guy who's 106 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 4: got the length, He's got all the prototypical the traits, 107 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 4: the size, and he's still pissed. I'm told that he 108 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 4: was trafted in the fifth round, hasn't obviously made enough 109 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 4: progress to get on the field. But he's another one 110 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 4: of those guys you could get excited about if in 111 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 4: the final month he does get on the field and 112 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 4: make some plays. 113 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 5: Right. 114 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 6: Sorry, I am to the point Kai where everybody asked me, 115 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 6: why should we care about these games because you. 116 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 5: Are out of it? 117 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 6: Does winning matter? I think winning matters. If the young 118 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 6: guys were talking about are improving while they're winning. If 119 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 6: after four more games you think, okay, they won three 120 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 6: because this bunch of young guys looks good, then I 121 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 6: think the answer is yes. 122 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 5: It's more important than draft position. 123 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:26,679 Speaker 1: Very telling. 124 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 2: Our final big thing is going to be pick up 125 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: the pace. We haven't seen a ton from the offense, 126 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 2: and they did win that game against the Titans, but 127 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: it wasn't necessarily because of an offensive explosion. 128 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: Brian. 129 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: They seem to have a little bit better chance when 130 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: they were going up tempo, getting the running game going 131 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 2: and then forcing the ball to Brian Thomas Junior. Is 132 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 2: that the way the rest of the way for the offense? 133 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 4: The last thing you said, force the ball to Brian 134 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 4: Thomas Junior. That's been a drum beat all season long. 135 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 4: But if you watch Monday Night Football earlier this week, 136 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 4: you saw the Cincinnati Bengals throw the ball eighteen times 137 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 4: in the direction of Jamar Chase. He caught fourteen of 138 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 4: them for one hundred and seventy seven yards and two touchdowns. 139 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 4: So look, Doug will talk all the time about they 140 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 4: have the play design to go in the direction of 141 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 4: number seven. They're not new at this, but the quarterback 142 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 4: and the defense will in many ways dictate where the 143 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:22,799 Speaker 4: ball ends up going. However, Zach, Zach Thomas, Zach Taylor, Taylor, 144 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 4: there you go. I was thinking Hall of Fame linebacker 145 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 4: Zach Taylor said, we can't throw it at him enough, 146 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 4: John eighteen times. 147 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 5: Just keep it simple. 148 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 4: So throw the ball at Brian Thomas eighteen times next 149 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 4: week against the Jets. 150 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. 151 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 6: And you don't want to do it to the point 152 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 6: where you're throwing in a triple coverage and getting picked. 153 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 6: So you have to be creative about it. You have 154 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 6: to make sure you're doing it the right way. Yeah, 155 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 6: I mean, I say, pick up the pace. All quarterbacks 156 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 6: or most quarterbacks who are young and figuring it out, 157 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 6: like to pick up the pace because it makes decision 158 00:06:55,120 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 6: making easier. You're throwing shorter, and it's all coming together quickly. 159 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: Uh. 160 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 6: The pace again, to me, isn't as important as getting 161 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 6: the ball to Brian Thomas Jr. And getting some passes downfield. 162 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 6: Uh so then everything's not compressed. I don't know what 163 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 6: pace that means, but I think it's something they gotta 164 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 6: work on. 165 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 5: And Uh yeah, BTJ all the way. 166 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: All right, stay with us here on Jagsam. 167 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 2: We'll do a little this or that when we come 168 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: back after the break. Welcome back to jag Zam, brought 169 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: to you by Field's Auto, Jacksonville's premier luxury auto group. 170 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: You can head over to Fieldsauto dot com. 171 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 5: This this. 172 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back to jag Zam. 173 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: We're gonna talk a little this or that as Jaguards 174 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: are getting ready to take on the Jets this week. 175 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: Another throwback jersey game, the second one of the year, 176 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: and there's a my to go in the season. So 177 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: we talked a little bit about some of the rookies. 178 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: We're looking forward to seeing. Who's a player that really 179 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: needs to show out these final four games or so, 180 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: whether it's for a contract, whether it's to get at 181 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: themselves a starting job. Who are you looking at that 182 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: these four games is very important for individually? 183 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 4: That is a great question and one that I hadn't 184 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 4: really considered. I would say Devin Lloyd probably at the 185 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 4: top of the list. He's been inconsistent in his young career. 186 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 4: You can see the talent. He's better going forward, I 187 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 4: think than dropping into coverage. But is a guy who 188 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 4: is getting close to a contract and will have to 189 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 4: prove himself, so he could use a couple of really 190 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 4: good games, because he's been overshadowed by Ventre Miller all 191 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 4: season long. 192 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 6: I think a pretty obvious one would be Mason Smith 193 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 6: obviously there. I'll go with Parker Washington a little bit. 194 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 6: If he shows out, if he gives you four games 195 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 6: like the Houston game hundred yards, then I think you say, Okay, 196 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 6: this is a drafted guy. Would be the slot receiver 197 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 6: if he's inconsistent, if he's not starting to approach that 198 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 6: Christian Kirk level, which I'm gonna say he's gonna get there. 199 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 6: But then all of a sudden you have to think, Okay, 200 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 6: do we need you know, can he be part of 201 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 6: your three? Do you feel good about him and Brian 202 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 6: Thomas Junior? Or do you need something more there? He 203 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 6: has potential to do that, but doesn't it sort of 204 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 6: feel like he's still like we're still starting, like we're 205 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 6: still trying to figure that out with him? 206 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, Are we missing the obvious one here and 207 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 4: that's Mac Jones? Well yeah, I. 208 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: Think Mac obviously needs to He needs a contract. He's 209 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: just done this year for his own career, especially if 210 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 2: he wants to go try and be a starter somewhere 211 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: else that will be dictated by this or being a 212 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 2: backup wherever that might be. I think I would look 213 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: at Antonio Johnson. I think he got the start this 214 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: week at safety. Now with Darion Jones playing as well 215 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: as he is, kind of getting that nickel role, which 216 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: is originally I think where they saw Antonio Johnson just 217 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 2: seeing if maybe he can play safety as well, so 218 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 2: utilizing him in the last couple of games. 219 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: See how that ends up. 220 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 4: There's a bunch of guys in this rush. How about 221 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 4: and Cisco? 222 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: I mean that's a contract. 223 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 4: He has not had a good season and is going 224 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 4: to be looking to play somewhere next year. So for 225 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 4: Andre Cisco the last four weeks. Watch they'll have three 226 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 4: interceptions in the last four weeks. 227 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: Turn it. 228 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 4: That's kind of what he does. 229 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 5: All right. 230 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: We've got four more games, as we mentioned, winnable on paper. 231 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: If you guys were only going to win one of 232 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: these four games, which one would you want to win? 233 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: That would be Jets this week, Raiders Titans once again, 234 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: and then the Colts will be the final game of 235 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: the season. 236 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: But they brought the Colts because the end of the 237 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: area like the history there. 238 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean it's it's always it's always fun 239 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 6: to beat the Colts. Would be really cool is if 240 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 6: the Colts were playing for a playoff ber and and 241 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 6: you went into that house and won. 242 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 5: So spoiler look all be on. So when they beat 243 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 5: the Colts, I always smile. 244 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 4: Yeah too, primarily because for so many years the Jaguars 245 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 4: struggled to compete against Peyton Manning and the Colts. But 246 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty one, they came down here just needing 247 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 4: to win against a three or two and fourteen teams 248 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 4: with a rookie quarterback and an interim head coach, and 249 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 4: the Jaguars knocked him off so much of that they 250 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 4: painted the score in their locker room before the twenty 251 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 4: twenty two season, and of course that didn't go all 252 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 4: that well. 253 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 5: So I say the Colts don't do that. 254 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna go with Jets because I want 255 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 2: the prow of throwbacks to say and defeated. 256 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: So I want that. This week says here, we'll. 257 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 2: Talk a little bit about what's going on around the 258 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: NFL when we come back after the break here in Jagsam. 259 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 2: For eleven years, dream Finders Homes have been proud to 260 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 2: call themselves the official homebuilder of the Jacksonville Jaguars and 261 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 2: him does the dreamfinders homes dot com for all of 262 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: the available inventory and Go Jags. 263 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back to jack Am. 264 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 2: Normally we talk a little bit about what's been going 265 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: on in the division, but we played the Titans, so 266 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: you know what happened there, and the Colts and Texans 267 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: were on a bye this week, so we're gonna talk 268 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: a little bit about the team we are playing next week, 269 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 2: and that's the Jets. They've lost four in a row. 270 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: They fell in overtime to the Dolphins this week. Kind 271 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 2: of a little bit felt like there may be last 272 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: stand as well. I know they've been dealing with a 273 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 2: lot coaching changes whatnot and kind of trying to figure 274 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: everything out. 275 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 1: Has it been going while there either. 276 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 4: Well, they just missed Robert Salah on what October twelfth, 277 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 4: and Joe Douglass has been gone for about a month now, 278 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 4: and there's been all sorts of Aaron Rodgers has a 279 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 4: prickly personality, and there's been sort of you know, banter 280 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 4: back and forth, you know about personnel and about the owner. 281 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 4: You just kind of feel like they're hanging on. That's 282 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 4: in New York. That train wreck is when you want 283 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 4: to get out of its way. 284 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's They're very similar teams in a lot of ways. 285 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 6: The Jags and the Jets expectations and then the Jets 286 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 6: have lost seven games by six points or less. The 287 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 6: Jaggars have lost seven by five points or less. So 288 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 6: there are similarities in the sense that there's talent on 289 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 6: both sides. 290 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 5: The Jets have the capability of being really good offensively. 291 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers is playing better of late, so they're dangerous, 292 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 6: but they're both kind of a mess. The Jets are 293 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 6: unusual in the sense that most teams that make a 294 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 6: mid season change don't do both coach and general manager. 295 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 6: So there's very much a feeling of, you know, every 296 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 6: team in that situation, I think, feels like you're just 297 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 6: waiting to the end. 298 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 5: The Jets really feel like, okay, we got four weeks 299 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 5: of sort of a house of cards. 300 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 6: Isn't the right thing, you know, just waiting with knowing 301 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 6: what the leadership is going to be, just getting through 302 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 6: to the end. 303 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 5: So but they're very, very very good defensively and. 304 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 6: The Jaguars aren't very good offensively, so that to me 305 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 6: is a tricky matchup. 306 00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 5: For the Jags this week. 307 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 4: Well, you also a defense here, but that's really struggling 308 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 4: to stop the pass all season long. It's been historically 309 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 4: bad in terms of explosive plays. And that quarterback is 310 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 4: as good a mind as there is. He'll find your 311 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 4: weakness and take advantage of somebody on a regular basis 312 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 4: if you don't stop the run and force him to 313 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 4: stand in the pocket a little bit longer. 314 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 6: And the Jets a little bit are sort of an 315 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 6: example of maybe change too quickly. I think they were 316 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 6: two and three or two and four when they got 317 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 6: rid of their coach, such a long season, and it's 318 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 6: why it's very unusual. They've gone what like one and 319 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 6: nine since then. So there is sometimes some benefit to 320 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 6: just sort of stay in the course and see if 321 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 6: you can work through this. But they didn't, and they 322 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 6: clearly believe that a long term overall change was needed. 323 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 6: When you committed to Aaron Rodgers, you were very much 324 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 6: all in for the now. It'll be an interesting reset 325 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 6: for New York at season. 326 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 2: What that rebuild will and looking like will be interesting, 327 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 2: for sure. Yesterday's Monday night football broadcast alternate broadcasts was 328 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 2: The Simpsons for Monday Night Football with the Bengals at 329 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 2: the Cowboys. We were lucky enough to be a part 330 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: of the Toy Story broadcast last year. 331 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys have got to check 332 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: this out yet. 333 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 2: But it was pretty cool what they were able to 334 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: do with kind of the Simpsons set up for it, 335 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 2: and it's just a cool experience. And I'm so I 336 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 2: think it's so neat that they're being able to kind 337 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 2: of incorporate these things into the game. 338 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 4: It's not just a game anymore, is it. It's entertaining, Well, 339 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 4: it is a game technically, yeah, right. 340 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 5: Well, and. 341 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 6: It's clearly younger audience and Simpsons, I get is in 342 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 6: younger but trying to get other audiences to come. 343 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 5: In and experience it. 344 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 6: So yeah, it's an opportune time as well, because you 345 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 6: had two teams that realistically are probably not going to playoffs, 346 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 6: so you brain, you are meant to make an otherwise. 347 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 5: Uninteresting game a little more interesting. So it's cool. 348 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: What cartoons would you guys pick if you were going 349 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: to pick a cartoon. 350 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 5: To do, well, you gotta pick I mean, I gotta 351 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 5: pick peanuts. 352 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 6: So she can move the ball out of the way, right, 353 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,119 Speaker 6: she can't leave it there. 354 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: She set a standard. Charlie Brown cannot get the football. 355 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I don't know how that many cartoons. 356 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 5: On with this the one. 357 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 6: What I can think of, a little. 358 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: Little new tunes I think could be good. I think 359 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: i'd probably go, well, my New England roots. I would 360 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 2: go a family guy, just because Peter Griffin trying to play. 361 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 5: Would be interesting. And anytime you can get Stewie involved 362 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 5: a good day. 363 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely sorry to get the football shape. 364 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 5: That's true. Also you go with super Friends from the seven. 365 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: There we go all the superpower skill players. I think 366 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: we have a lot of good ideas. We'll see what 367 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: comes up next for the next alternate cast. But I 368 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: enjoyed the Simpsons one. If you haven't seen it, go 369 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: check it out. Stay with us here after the break, 370 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: we'll tell you what's going on the rest. 371 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 7: Of the week. 372 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: Here from the Jaguars. 373 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: CHAGXAM brought to you by Dream Seats Jags fans. If 374 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 2: you want customize Jaguarsh furniture for your home, checkout zipchair 375 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 2: dot com to browse all the customizable options. Zip Chair 376 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 2: is furniture for fans and also this week's game is 377 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,959 Speaker 2: brought to you by Hundai. Get a great deal on 378 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 2: a new Honday at the Honday Getaway Sales event. Visit 379 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 2: Hondai USA dot com today. 380 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 4: We gotta make them bleep, we gotta make them blue. 381 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 4: Make your second down and five Bigsby is the running 382 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 4: back they give it to. 383 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 7: Pitch me try on the left side. 384 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 6: Hit the five step touchdown, the take for six and 385 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 6: the Jaguars not the league. 386 00:17:53,400 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, as tankos, the team goes. When he plays well, 387 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 2: this team gets a win. And hopefully you can do 388 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: that again this week against the Jets. That's miked up 389 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 2: this week, we want to check it out. Had a 390 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 2: victory micd up in a while, so definitely want to 391 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 2: check that out at Jaguars dot com. 392 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: Are you guys getting into this week? 393 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 4: I'm going to chase down Phil Rausher to the offensive 394 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 4: line coach. 395 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 5: Back to back weeks. 396 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 4: I know that there technically was a sack, but there 397 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 4: was no yardage lost last week in Tennessee. So two 398 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 4: really good weeks protecting Mac Jones and see what the 399 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 4: formula looks like to keep that going against the Jets. 400 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, this team has pass blocked well, I mean it's 401 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 6: it's uh with co Lannon in there as well, with 402 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 6: Ton Harrison getting scratulated with sickness. 403 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 4: And I told by Jeff Loggi and he played really well. 404 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 5: And Cole's wont and out in the NFL. 405 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 6: So and so is Josh I figured out. I'll I 406 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 6: have Jaran Jones on the ozone podcast. And he's such 407 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 6: an interesting guy sometimes when these guys come in as 408 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 6: fifth year seniors, h I meaning having played five years 409 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 6: in college, a little more maturity, a little more ready. 410 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 5: Uh. He really strikes me as that guy who is 411 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 5: gonna be a team leader. 412 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 4: I have an extreme question for you. Yes, all right, 413 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 4: So Aaron Rodgers is two and one at EverBank Stadium. 414 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: Is that true? 415 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 4: That's true? But he's never lost to the Jaguars. So 416 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 4: who beat him? 417 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 5: Saints? 418 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 4: Right? Yeah? Opening Day twenty twenty one or twenty twenty two, 419 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 4: the Saints had to move their home game out of 420 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 4: New Orleans because of Hurricane Ida, and so they played 421 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 4: it here because the Jaguars were on the road, and 422 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers and the Packers were taken apart by the 423 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 4: Saints that day thirty eighty three. 424 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 6: I think they almost had more wins in the stadium 425 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 6: this year than it was close. 426 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 5: It was going to be all right. 427 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: We will get into that matchup against the Jets a 428 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 2: little bit more on jag Zam tomorrow, so make sure 429 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 2: you join us on Thursday.