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Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak here for this Monday of February

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Speaker 1: in London. Coming up today, tensions ratchet higher, US fighters

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Speaker 1: Those are the stories we're looking at in today's papers.

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Speaker 1: And I'm Leanne Gern's plus a crude instrument. Oil prices

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Speaker 1: retreat as slowdown concerns vy with Russian supply cuts. That's

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Speaker 1: all straight ahead on Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. The business news

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Speaker 1: and I'm Caroline Heck. Here all the stories that we're

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Speaker 1: following today. Three objects have been shot down over North

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Speaker 1: American aircraft shot down the latest object above like uron

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Speaker 1: objects are. We have been more closely scrutinizing our airspace

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Speaker 1: at these altitudes, including enhancing our radar, which may at

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Speaker 1: least poorly explain the increase in objects that we've detected

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Speaker 1: over the past week. One thing Dalton's department are clear

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Speaker 1: on the first balloon spot It was a Chinese spy device,

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Speaker 1: provoking a new round of tensions with baiging the incidents

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Speaker 1: shining a spotlight on China's surveillance programs. Now Here in

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Speaker 1: the UK, wage and inflation data are set to fuel

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Speaker 1: further Bank of England rate rises. Bloom Begs You and

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Speaker 1: the Bank of England who want to keep their foot

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Speaker 1: on the monetary break Elsewhere, Two separate surveys out today

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Speaker 1: Video's Business Trends survey reports that output fell for a

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Speaker 1: second month, reaching levels associated with a shrinking economy. In London,

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Speaker 1: immun Parts bloom Berg Daybreak Europe gave with Don's Conglomerates,

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Speaker 1: just focusing on conserving cash or paying debt and also

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Speaker 1: retrieving those pledge shares. Because even though Adning Group has

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Speaker 1: death toll across Syria and Turkey has risen to thirty

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Speaker 1: morning to you. And what do we know then about

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