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Speaker 2: Greetings, welcome inside, Happy Friday. The Jason Smith Show with
Speaker 2: Mike Harmon is our show at night, getting up early
Speaker 2: to do duty for you. Today here on the Dan
Speaker 2: Patrick Show, happy to do it is we get into
Speaker 2: another big NFL weekend. We already got quarterback decisions being made.
Speaker 2: Sam Howell's a new QB one or really the old
Speaker 2: QB one who we knew was a QB one, but
Speaker 2: was officially anointed QB one for the Washington Commanders today.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we already got bit. The news cycle continues.
Speaker 2: Mike harm Well, and.
Speaker 3: You tried to mess with me this morning?
Speaker 2: How did I do that?
Speaker 4: Wasn't I going to take a sip of my coffee?
Speaker 4: Go Justin Fields? And I just looked at you. Will
Speaker 4: not play Week two? I got all right? All right,
Speaker 4: smart guy? Wait to get the blood pumping on a Friday.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you that isn't that everybody's reaction. Every
Speaker 2: time you get on social media or you see an
Speaker 2: update on your team and you see you're a player
Speaker 2: from your team's name trending, you think one of two things,
Speaker 2: either one of three things. Sorry, they either made an
Speaker 2: incredible play that watched this unbelievable one handed catch on
Speaker 2: the jugs gun you know that that somebody makes. Or
Speaker 2: they got in a fight or they got hurt. All right,
Speaker 2: only one of those things is good right now. The
Speaker 2: fourth is the worst of all things. Well, and we
Speaker 2: usually we're on air seven to eleven Pacific time. No
Speaker 2: good things start happening in the final hour show No,
Speaker 2: but you get a little nervous. You get up during
Speaker 2: the day and it's one of those It's like throwing
Speaker 2: a football. Only three things can happen when you throw
Speaker 2: a football, and two of them are bad. So it's
Speaker 2: like only three things can happen when you see a
Speaker 2: person trending, and two of them every time I go
Speaker 2: what is it? And it's it's that anxiety that you
Speaker 2: get that feels like it's an hour long but is
Speaker 2: really only two seconds from when you click on the
Speaker 2: name and then you scroll a couple of times to say, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: this person's okay, or oh someone walked gingerly from the field,
Speaker 2: or oh look at look at what happened here the
Speaker 2: cart came out. I mean, everybody nobody saw a single
Speaker 2: day gingerly every single day I I I wake up
Speaker 2: and I knowpe every other fan feels the same way
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: There is a fourth thing in this preseason set that
Speaker 4: we've watched in training camp is that you have a
Speaker 4: lot of modern players giving top five lists that are
Speaker 4: no good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's the other thing. It's the guy that's
Speaker 2: left off that that that's well. But it's a bit
Speaker 2: of both. Look at this dope. Yeah, he left Jerry
Speaker 2: Rice off? Like why is why is the Lost Boys trending?
Speaker 2: I don't understand. Oh, because Garrett Wilson was asked his
Speaker 2: five favorite vampire movies and he left The Lost Boys
Speaker 2: off the list to start. You know, I kind of
Speaker 2: like Blade.
Speaker 3: Blades are really good, but you know the first one
Speaker 3: is really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's what I knew that. Okay, Stephen Dorf
Speaker 2: in a movie is not is not a good sign.
Speaker 2: I knew it's it's not gonna be good. That's it.
Speaker 2: That's not wasn't gonna be good. Bring back Blade, that's tough.
Speaker 3: Let's go.
Speaker 2: But there redoing Blade? I think ye, bring back Snipes.
Speaker 2: I think that No, he's too old. He can't be Blade.
Speaker 2: Why because he's too old? Now, he's sixty.
Speaker 3: You got cgi, we can dage, we want a million things.
Speaker 2: I thought there's a whole big strike about AI, and
Speaker 2: how dare you I want? He still asked to add,
Speaker 2: I want people come down here with their picket signs.
Speaker 2: Go here's a guy all for AI. You want to
Speaker 2: be You want everybody to be replaced by younger versions
Speaker 2: of themselves.
Speaker 4: All I'm saying is he still does the does the work,
Speaker 4: and then someone else is employed to do some digital wizardry.
Speaker 2: Wait till I say, I want the Mike Harmon in
Speaker 2: nine years ago, the guy that used to bring pro
Speaker 2: federals and and and macarons into into the show every night.
Speaker 2: I want that guy back. I don't want this nine
Speaker 2: year plus Harmon where it's hey, I got coffee for
Speaker 2: everybody and brought donuts today. He did bring donuts. That
Speaker 2: was pretty cool.
Speaker 3: Trying to set me up as some miscreant.
Speaker 2: How dare you? What do you got? Frostburg Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: is sixty and the Jets brought him in. Stop stop,
Speaker 2: stop to stop putting anything out there. Everything is fine everything.
Speaker 2: I will say this though about before we get to
Speaker 2: James Harden. With this being the second week of Hard Knocks.
Speaker 2: Now the Jets getting into their third game, we.
Speaker 3: Already went to the mentalist thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, here's the final score of the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: The one thing I will say, because I'm telling you
Speaker 2: the truth about this, is that watching Hard Knocks it
Speaker 2: can be something great for your franchise because it can
Speaker 2: show your franchise in a positive light. You could be
Speaker 2: a destination for free agents. But seeing it so far
Speaker 2: the first couple of weeks, I gotta say, eh, I
Speaker 2: understand the disappointment that everybody was looking for the first week.
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is here. Phenomenal episode, right, we're breaking the
Speaker 2: fourth river, helicopter, voice of God. Look, there's Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: There's Aaron Rodgers. It was great, but you are missing.
Speaker 2: And I didn't think I would miss it because I'd
Speaker 2: seen it a hundred times. Here's a position battle. Here's
Speaker 2: the view of the superstar on the team in his life.
Speaker 2: And then here's some other guys trying to make the
Speaker 2: next leap. Here's some interesting personal stories, and here's a
Speaker 2: couple of positional camp battles. Right, that's Hard Knocks. And
Speaker 2: because the Jets are giving them different access and a
Speaker 2: lack of access this year. Watching the second episode was
Speaker 2: almost like you were just watching an NFL film's miked
Speaker 2: up version of it, like we spent we spent week
Speaker 2: at Jets practice. There's not a big narrative. There's not
Speaker 2: a here's a positional battle we're looking to see you
Speaker 2: can make the team at linebacker, or here's what's going
Speaker 2: on with the tight ends. There's none of that because
Speaker 2: the Jets said, listen, we're gonna make it how we
Speaker 2: want to. We're gonna make it our access. And yeah,
Speaker 2: it is suffering a little bit because I'll be the
Speaker 2: first one to tell you. Look, you know me, I'm
Speaker 2: all at Jets, Jets, Jet, give me the Jets content.
Speaker 2: But as far as a hard knock show, I get it.
Speaker 2: I get where the disappointment is. I didn't think it
Speaker 2: would be that big a deal, but just you know,
Speaker 2: now you have two weeks of being blinded by Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers is a Jet Rogers Rogers? Yeah? But now going forward,
Speaker 2: it's I understand you want that drama. You're you're looking forward.
Speaker 2: People are looking for a certain thing. So I get
Speaker 2: the Yeah, this season, I don't know and I don't
Speaker 2: know what we're gonna get coming up because you're not
Speaker 2: gonna get cuts. Now what you're not seeing Rodgers in
Speaker 2: the preseason.
Speaker 3: Fights from training camp.
Speaker 2: I mean, he just he looks like he's going to
Speaker 2: be a head coach in the NFL, because boy, he
Speaker 2: stands there very authoritative on the sideline with the headset
Speaker 2: on saying what he's saying. He looks like he looks
Speaker 2: like a head coach in waiting.
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say this, and I speak I think
Speaker 4: for a lot of America here as part of the
Speaker 4: listeners of the Dan Patrick Show nationwide and across the globe.
Speaker 4: I mean they're head in Ireland, so I mean it's
Speaker 4: a global phenomenon here is that I'm tired of the Jets.
Speaker 4: I am absolutely tired of the Jets. With all of
Speaker 4: these stories, we get our saturation point.
Speaker 2: Just with Buddy.
Speaker 4: People got tired of the Patriots, the you saw the
Speaker 4: meteoric rise of the Warriors, all the revolutionizing basketball.
Speaker 3: I hate them.
Speaker 4: They ruined basketball like it was a flash. Right, It's
Speaker 4: like a meteor shooting through the sky that I went
Speaker 4: and watched in Joshua Tree last week. I'm done with
Speaker 4: the Jets. I am done with the Super saturation.
Speaker 3: Get the Jets.
Speaker 2: National TV first five weeks. Get ready, get ready, it's
Speaker 2: just starting. We start fourteen and oh, get ready, you
Speaker 2: will lose it. Ready fourteen, we're gonna finish fourteen to
Speaker 2: three because we're gonna clinch number one overall at fourteen
Speaker 2: and oh, rest all our guys and finish fourteen to three.
Speaker 4: With that schedule off to jump. I mean you talk
Speaker 4: about super flex. Schedules may not just flexing out. It's
Speaker 4: super flex because we got we got to get off
Speaker 4: this bandwagon as fast as we can.
Speaker 3: And I'm I'm hurting your heart when I say this.
Speaker 3: I can see this.
Speaker 4: You're laughing, but you're very uneasy right now because you
Speaker 4: can see it all unraveling because you don't have any tackles.
Speaker 2: So we'll have more NFL coming up. Got a big,
Speaker 2: special fun guest coming up to take football with US.
Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Fame voter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: Actually Hall a very good voter because that's what it
Speaker 2: is now. But to get to James Harden, oh boy,
Speaker 2: guys walking around and talking like it's twenty nineteen and
Speaker 2: he's still the top three dynamic NBA superstar that he is.
Speaker 2: And it's not twenty twenty four where dude, you're a
Speaker 2: nice pass first point guard. All right, you're an let
Speaker 2: the league assist, But dude, you're not the player. And
Speaker 2: he's walking around making comments like he's KD in his
Speaker 2: prime going to free agency, or he's Lebron that can
Speaker 2: make all these questions. You had Darryl Moury, GM of
Speaker 2: the Sixers say last weekend that, hey, we try to
Speaker 2: trade James Harden didn't work. Looking forward to having James
Speaker 2: Harden in a camp. Whoa wait?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 2: Harden in China on a tour with Adidas said, Daryl
Speaker 2: Morey's a liar. I will never play for an organization
Speaker 2: that employs him again.
Speaker 3: It was a quote he likes so much.
Speaker 2: Let me say it again. Yeah, Daryl Morey's a liar.
Speaker 2: I will never play for an organization that has him
Speaker 2: there again. For those in the back who couldn't hear
Speaker 2: me the first time, I will never play for that
Speaker 2: organization again. So what's gonna happen now? James Harden decided,
Speaker 2: you know what, I've gone nuclear. Now I gotta go
Speaker 2: super duper nuclear. Here's an interview he did with kho
Speaker 2: U in Houston Khou eleven. If he thought his relationship
Speaker 2: with the Sixers was beyond repair.
Speaker 1: Do you have an open line of communication with the
Speaker 1: seventy six ers?
Speaker 3: And how much patience do you need to have to
Speaker 3: let this play out. I'm just I'm being patient all
Speaker 3: the summer.
Speaker 5: So for me, it's just focus on what I can
Speaker 5: control and this, you know, working out Santa shape and getting.
Speaker 2: Ready for good season.
Speaker 3: Too late to repair the relationship, I think, so there
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, too late to prepare it, I think so see
Speaker 2: down press that nuclear button. There it is.
Speaker 4: Lover hate James Harden. You have to appreciate this about him.
Speaker 4: He is consistent what he's done with the situation.
Speaker 3: He's got no qualms.
Speaker 4: About getting in front of a microphone and tell you
Speaker 4: exactly where he is. Right he was in China and
Speaker 4: he's doing this chur and doing some you know, camps
Speaker 4: and all of this stuff, promoting shoes and all. Remember
Speaker 4: they hate Darryl Morey for his comments a couple of
Speaker 4: years ago, right, So he knows he's got a captive
Speaker 4: audience that's going to cheer him. Right So, and then
Speaker 4: he comes back Stateside more of the same. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: done with.
Speaker 2: Maybe he's like, am I sure those comments landed well?
Speaker 2: And I was in China. I couldn't really tell let
Speaker 2: me come back and do an interview with Houston where
Speaker 2: I want to go back to. Let me do an
Speaker 2: interview with a television station in Houston and say this
Speaker 2: is untenable. It was just untenable two years ago at
Speaker 2: Houston when he said, yeah, this can't work anymore. Well,
Speaker 2: everything changed.
Speaker 4: And then we have the quotes from Kevin McHale talking
Speaker 4: about how he came into camp and season fat and
Speaker 4: he goes, he got me.
Speaker 3: Fired after eleven games because he was fat. Shit Like, so, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's the world is burning.
Speaker 2: There's two There's two things for James Harden. One is
Speaker 2: that the guy is still a somewhat effective player, but
Speaker 2: the image of him is the teams still look at
Speaker 2: the back of his basketball card and think that's the
Speaker 2: player he is, and he's not. He was brought it
Speaker 2: to be the missing piece in Brooks. Didn't work. He
Speaker 2: was the missing piece in Philadelphia didn't work. Now he's
Speaker 2: in his mid thirties, early to mid thirties, and teams
Speaker 2: really think he's gonna stay in shape and he's gonna
Speaker 2: be this guy, of course not. That's why there's lukewarm interest.
Speaker 2: That's why the Sixers haven't been able to trade him.
Speaker 2: Because Darrel Morey, I'm sure he's been getting offers out.
Speaker 2: He's saying, Wow, I didn't expect to get lowball that
Speaker 2: much for James Harden. So this is why they're at
Speaker 2: the impast they're at eventually, and this is what Harden
Speaker 2: is doing. And this is the other part of it,
Speaker 2: because he does what all stars need to do if
Speaker 2: you want out. And it's not a great strategy. I
Speaker 2: don't like it, but I respect it because it's effective.
Speaker 2: James Harden's the one superstar that has said I want
Speaker 2: out and he gets out. Why because he's not afraid
Speaker 2: to be the bad guy. He's not afraid to say
Speaker 2: this relationship stinks and I won out. Did it in Houston,
Speaker 2: did it in Brooklyn. Now he's doing it in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: And what's gonna happen? When you do that, you get
Speaker 2: out right. You look at guys like Aaron Rodgers, who
Speaker 2: for two years did it dance with Green Bay. Maybe
Speaker 2: it's good, maybe it's not. I don't know. Some changes
Speaker 2: needed to be made. Final when did he get traude
Speaker 2: when he said it's my intention to play for the
Speaker 2: New York Jets, and what happened a week later the
Speaker 2: trade was done. We're waiting for Damian Lillard, who for years,
Speaker 2: every year in the offseason, it's sources close to people
Speaker 2: who actually have hung out with people who hang around
Speaker 2: places where Damian Lillard frequents, says that Lillard might be
Speaker 2: unhappy with his time in Portland and could be looking
Speaker 2: for something else, and every year everything you don't want
Speaker 2: to be the bad guy. Now what do we have?
Speaker 2: Finally I want out. I want to get traded. Miami's
Speaker 2: where I want to go, and what's gonna happen. Eventually
Speaker 2: he'll get traded there. They it's a little bit more
Speaker 2: complicated because Miami doesn't have what the Blazers want, So
Speaker 2: you got to figure out a three team trade. You
Speaker 2: still have the late summer NBA trade season, which is
Speaker 2: coming very soon, and it's gonna hit us like a
Speaker 2: ton of bricks. But that's what happens when you when
Speaker 2: you are okay being the bad guy and saying I
Speaker 2: want out, You're gonna get out. Because Harden says it,
Speaker 2: he wants out. All these other guys. You just I
Speaker 2: just told the two biggest guys every off season, what
Speaker 2: do they want? What do they want? When they finally
Speaker 2: stood up and said, okay, this is what I want,
Speaker 2: they get moved. We'll go back to how long we
Speaker 2: had to chronicle the Russell Wilson situation in Seattle, the
Speaker 2: same thing running in parallel with Aaron Rodgers. He wasn't
Speaker 2: threatening to retire, but you'd hear all these things in
Speaker 2: the background, and again image being everything didn't want it
Speaker 2: to be on him, and so you depending on who
Speaker 2: was carrying the narrative.
Speaker 3: You had folks working for Pete.
Speaker 4: Carroll on his side of things, you had Wilson's guys.
Speaker 4: And now you look at James Harden, he just cuts
Speaker 4: through it.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: You may not like it, go back to Lebron and
Speaker 4: the decision didn't really much care. It's like changing the paradigm.
Speaker 4: All right, bold strategy, All right, let's see what you're
Speaker 4: gonna do. The fact that there was a report this
Speaker 4: week that if the Bulls would have been able to
Speaker 4: get rid of lou All Dang. See it all comes
Speaker 4: back to lou All Dang.
Speaker 2: If they had been able to three would have been
Speaker 2: in Chicago Staines anyway. But the point being Keith van
Speaker 2: Horn headline has to be coming up soon. Hey, we
Speaker 2: can still trade Keith van Horn and wind up man.
Speaker 3: Oh you at the basketball player.
Speaker 4: I was thinking about the offensive line for the Bears
Speaker 4: back of the day. But the idea that Lebron and
Speaker 4: Dwayne Wade bristled that anybody would react negatively to what
Speaker 4: they did. No, no, no, you're changing paradigms, you're changing
Speaker 4: power structures. People are gonna be mad. Whether it's owners,
Speaker 4: whether it's fans that have your merch and jerseys or
Speaker 4: fans of the teams that that they cheer for, They're
Speaker 4: gonna be mad with what you're doing. With James Harden,
Speaker 4: he's basically said, I don't care, and I gotta appreciate
Speaker 4: that that he's stuck to his guns, and time after
Speaker 4: time it's like, all right, I gave this to Tron.
Speaker 4: The other thing is you mentioned the back of the
Speaker 4: basketball card. Remember those are averages, and everybody watched them.
Speaker 4: In the playoffs, you can get a forty point game.
Speaker 4: You could also get what you got the final two
Speaker 4: games against the Celtics, which in the playoffs is generally
Speaker 4: what you get from James Harden.
Speaker 2: It maybe like three or four games of those and
Speaker 2: then you get then you get a forty point, but
Speaker 2: you get.
Speaker 4: What I mean, like the average ends up looking pretty
Speaker 4: good when it's all said. None except we all watched
Speaker 4: the disaster and the train wrecks. That doesn't mean Joel
Speaker 4: Embiid's free of it either. But James are going to
Speaker 4: be Nick any data any day, No Dan any day. No, no,
Speaker 4: not Jamee. Come on, that's not happened Nick show. Unless
Speaker 4: the Sixers say we'll trade you Joel Embiid. But you
Speaker 4: got to take this guy too.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't want to do that guy.
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that. What do you mean
Speaker 2: this guy? I'm just gonna put a name down. She's
Speaker 2: had to pull back and a call back to John Gruden.
Speaker 2: This guy, we're gonna put a name down. I don't
Speaker 2: we want you to look at it, but we'll get
Speaker 2: you getting Joel Embiid. Okay, great, But who's the other guy?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: You don't even know, don't even ask. I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: put his name on the contract with in the box. Okay,
Speaker 2: just got if you want Embiid, That's what happens exit.
Speaker 2: How about a Fresca exit swollen dome? Jason Smith Mike
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Speaker 2: is Jason Cole, Jay Cole, what's happening, buddy?
Speaker 5: Like Charles Groden at the end of Ishtar when he
Speaker 5: wants to get and I just want to go. It's
Speaker 5: all fame?
Speaker 2: Hey, who are some of the guys you let in?
Speaker 2: If it's all the fame? Are some of the recent
Speaker 2: guys you let in?
Speaker 5: Zach Thomas?
Speaker 2: Okay? Who else got in?
Speaker 3: Has you got another cowboy?
Speaker 5: Who that famous Patriots Daryl Revis or Darrell re Yeah,
Speaker 5: Joe got into one of one of the greatest patriots
Speaker 5: of all times. Darrell Revs Really truly truly a great
Speaker 5: great Patriots. I have a great I have a great
Speaker 5: grill story about it. Jets fan. I was going I
Speaker 5: was on one of the freeways, the Mammy thousands of
Speaker 5: free ways that surround the whatever you call that stadium,
Speaker 5: MetLife Giants Stadium, Meadowlands, whatever it was. And there's a
Speaker 5: guy with a Jet flag on his truck and his
Speaker 5: grill is falling off the back of the truck and
Speaker 5: it's hanging on by like a bungee quarter or something
Speaker 5: like that as it just kind of disintegrates into the
Speaker 5: freeway and people are like honking and trying to like
Speaker 5: warn him, and he's like angry, and he's like, just
Speaker 5: pass me by. It's how, you know, like this is
Speaker 5: particularly normal. You know, this is how I carry my
Speaker 5: grill around as a Jets fan. Is this kind of
Speaker 5: emblematic of how the season's going to go for you guys?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. Listen, with every Hard Knocks episode,
Speaker 2: you add three wins to the Jets win total. So
Speaker 2: by the end of Hard Knocks would be at twelve thirteen,
Speaker 2: fourteen wins.
Speaker 5: Did they do five or do they do six episodes?
Speaker 5: I'm trying to remember what they what do they do?
Speaker 3: But too many episodes?
Speaker 5: It's they have sort of burned out. The great trick
Speaker 5: that they did for me for so long was you
Speaker 5: always thought it was new and authentic and different, and
Speaker 5: then you realize, yeah, it's pretty much the same as
Speaker 5: as every previous incarnation. I just don't see it for
Speaker 5: forty five weeks at a time, so it looks like
Speaker 5: it's fresh and original.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you. Like being a jet fan, you
Speaker 2: know me, any big time Jets content like this I
Speaker 2: love because I'm walking around my house going Rogers, Rogers.
Speaker 5: But that's so great. But do you have the hair?
Speaker 5: Do you have the hair up and like a sort
Speaker 5: of orange you red the belt time?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I got that. That's so great with the
Speaker 5: belt and everything. It's great. Your daughters must have like
Speaker 5: ticks now, like every time you say Rogers, they like
Speaker 5: jump up and no, no.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. You you want you want a great
Speaker 2: so you want a great jet story? My daughter? So
Speaker 2: the other day, who was that big professional gambler that
Speaker 2: put that video out?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was his name? Oh yeah, he puts the video.
Speaker 2: He puts the video on YouTube of him running around
Speaker 2: in his backyard yelling Dalvin Cook, Eric Rogers, we'll go
Speaker 2: to the super Bowl, right, this huge, this huge gambler,
Speaker 2: and it got like five million views. It was this
Speaker 2: huge deal. So Frostburg sends it to me in early
Speaker 2: in the day, and and and my wife and daughter
Speaker 2: and I are out shopping. We're a Pavilions. We're in
Speaker 2: the supermarket and I see the video and I click
Speaker 2: on it and I'm watching it and it's really really funny.
Speaker 2: And my daughter starts walking towards me from the other
Speaker 2: aisle and she goes, Dad, is that you?
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 2: Did someone send you a video of you? I go,
Speaker 2: you think that was me?
Speaker 3: Yelling at that Smith in a green body suit.
Speaker 2: She couldn't see it, she could just she could just
Speaker 2: hear the voice of the guy going, cook, Eric Rogers.
Speaker 1: We'll go to the super Bowl?
Speaker 3: What's gonna happen?
Speaker 2: And she goes, Dad, is that something weird with you?
Speaker 2: I go, no, this is wowed.
Speaker 3: It's one of those kind of channels.
Speaker 5: It's one of those look at the mirror.
Speaker 2: Moments where I said, oh, boy, am a little bit
Speaker 2: over the top of Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it could be me, it could be Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 5: I mean, can we go over to the body paint Island,
Speaker 5: get that fresh stream man man Man, Yeah, go and
Speaker 5: do that with a Cleco jersey. Yeah, I can stand
Speaker 5: right next to Fireman and.
Speaker 2: Hey, all right, So I say, so, what what do
Speaker 2: you make of all the fights that we've been seeing
Speaker 2: at training camp the last few days? It seems like
Speaker 2: every somebody's body slamming somebody else. We've always seen these fights,
Speaker 2: but I feel like it's just really rent itself up now.
Speaker 2: Is it just we have more of these joint practices
Speaker 2: and and you know it's it's just hotter and it's
Speaker 2: more intensity during that during the day when they're doing this,
Speaker 2: like what is it?
Speaker 5: Joint practices are part of it. You know, you famously
Speaker 5: get lots of fights to joint actively because you don't
Speaker 5: have referees necessarily to kind of keep order, which is
Speaker 5: one of my favorite things to explain to people. The
Speaker 5: value of referees is not so much that they actually
Speaker 5: make the right calls, but they prevent the game from
Speaker 5: turning into a street brawl basically. But yeah, your practice
Speaker 5: tends to come out like that because you know, coaches
Speaker 5: are running the show, not referees, and they'll let it
Speaker 5: go a little bit too far. And yes, you get
Speaker 5: to a point where you're tired of hitting your own
Speaker 5: guys in practice, not that there's a lot of hitting
Speaker 5: in practice anymore, but you get a chance to hit
Speaker 5: somebody else, and there is sort of this fresh meat mentality.
Speaker 5: But I always come back to fights in practice, whether
Speaker 5: you're practicing against your own guys or whether you're practicing
Speaker 5: in somebody else, or whether you're in preseason games or games.
Speaker 5: I just always find that like that means you're not disciplined.
Speaker 5: And guys who get, you know, into lots of fights
Speaker 5: in practice, tend to get There was one player I
Speaker 5: can't remember the team anymore that but you know, somebody,
Speaker 5: somebody kind of player this this preseason already for getting
Speaker 5: into too many fights. It's just that's not how the
Speaker 5: game is actually supposed to be played. Yes, it's aggressive
Speaker 5: and everything else, but if you can't control yourself, then
Speaker 5: you're going to be a problem during a game.
Speaker 4: Jake Gold, Today we get the announcement from the commanders
Speaker 4: that Sam Howell will be the guy. No matter how
Speaker 4: much Ron Rivera was talking up Jacoby present. Uh, the
Speaker 4: young guy Sam Howell gets to not can we have
Speaker 4: any type of expectations for the commanders that we just say, hey,
Speaker 4: they're fourth h and we'll see what the enemy can do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, Yeah, it's hard to get worked
Speaker 5: up about a Brissette Howl quarterback battle. You know, I
Speaker 5: feel bad for Jacoby nice kid now, but yeah, he
Speaker 5: is his career streams back up and Howl is probably
Speaker 5: more of the same. So yeah, I think is Lloyd
Speaker 5: Howl the new you know, executive director of the NFL
Speaker 5: Players Association, is that the new quarterback?
Speaker 3: Are?
Speaker 5: Is that the Howl we're talking about?
Speaker 2: It's actually thirst and Howl the third who was a millionaire. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what it is, right.
Speaker 3: He likes to wear a Gilligan hat.
Speaker 5: Is lovey on the team. Now, yeah, rybody ry.
Speaker 2: The briefcases like they would on Gilligan. Silence my money
Speaker 2: the brief.
Speaker 5: It wasn't that's so great and you keep money on
Speaker 5: the island where there's.
Speaker 2: Okay, head of l inside of Jason call our guest
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio. All right, so looking ahead
Speaker 2: at this weekend, a couple of big quarterback standout stuff
Speaker 2: from this week going to this weekend. How much longer
Speaker 2: does Trey Lance have in San Francisco before he's traded
Speaker 2: every day, it's he should have shouldn't have been the first,
Speaker 2: he shouldn't be in the league. How much longer will
Speaker 2: they move on?
Speaker 5: Wait a second, do you think he's actually going to
Speaker 5: be traded? You think somebody's going to offer something for him?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, here's a conditional sixth round pick for Trey Lance.
Speaker 5: Look, it's pretty much any day. The only thing that
Speaker 5: they may say is, look, they've already paid him. Essentially,
Speaker 5: he's on whatever close to minimum salary is for this year.
Speaker 5: There's no there's no reason to let him go if
Speaker 5: you think he's better than Brandon Allen as your number
Speaker 5: three quarterback. Right, So it comes down to this equation
Speaker 5: of Brandon Allen versus Trey Lance. You know, is there
Speaker 5: some upside that you hope you might get out of
Speaker 5: Trey Lance at some point in time? I think that
Speaker 5: the answer is, you know, no, sadly, And I was
Speaker 5: talking to Mike Martz about it earlier this week because
Speaker 5: we're having this big, long conversation about having a developmental league,
Speaker 5: not an actual league like the Arena League or you know,
Speaker 5: the USFL or one of these other XFL or whatever
Speaker 5: these other other things that you're trying to have these permutations,
Speaker 5: but say like just for a month in the off season,
Speaker 5: you know, in June, you let guys like a Mechdi
Speaker 5: Becton right who needs to develop, or a Trey Lance
Speaker 5: who needs development all time, and other young players who
Speaker 5: need developmental time. Those guys need to go play somewhere.
Speaker 5: So there is a roundabout answer to your question, which
Speaker 5: is Trey Lance doesn't have any real value right now
Speaker 5: because nobody thinks he can play, and he's never gonna
Speaker 5: you know, nobody's ever going to think he can play
Speaker 5: until he actually gets reps and gets a chance to
Speaker 5: improve and learn how to play. Because the bottom line is,
Speaker 5: and people forget this all the time, he hasn't played
Speaker 5: football on a regular basis in games since twenty nineteen.
Speaker 5: He has not played football on a regular basis in
Speaker 5: this decade. So this kid needs to get somewhere where
Speaker 5: he can actually get on the field and learn how
Speaker 5: to play this game and find out if he can
Speaker 5: tap into any of that athletic talent that he has.
Speaker 4: Another guy we're looking to see how quickly they can
Speaker 4: tap into his talent as much as we wanted to
Speaker 4: see Gardner Minshew in Indianapolis to see the next tread
Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 5: Maybe bring the Jeorge. Nothing says Indianapolis like George's a
Speaker 5: mullet and that mustache. Man. That is all Indy all
Speaker 5: the time. That that man should be mister Indianapolis. Even
Speaker 5: if he has been number eighteen quarterback on that roster.
Speaker 4: Did you picker eighteen out of a tribute to Manning or.
Speaker 5: What he should have been at Union Station back in
Speaker 5: the nineties, just hanging out with everybody else that I
Speaker 5: ever met in Indianapolis. That is classic stuff. Okay, Gardner
Speaker 5: Minshew is the man, yes, Okay.
Speaker 4: But can Anthony Richardson play?
Speaker 5: That's kind of important?
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 3: I love your Gardner Minshew, I love it.
Speaker 2: Asked the guy about Anthony Richardson. He gave me eight
Speaker 2: minutes on Gardner Minshew, What do you want from me though?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Midjoe. Okay, Anthony Richardson, You know, I don't
Speaker 5: know because here's the same thing we just talked about,
Speaker 5: Trey Lance. Trey Lance and Anthony Richardson. If you look
Speaker 5: at the last twenty two years of first round draft
Speaker 5: picks in the NFL, the two guys who threw the
Speaker 5: fewest passes among all those guys who were selected are
Speaker 5: Trey Lance was three hundred and eighteen at the college level,
Speaker 5: and Anthony Richardson. I think the numbers three hundred and
Speaker 5: forty two. I don't know what Anthony Richardson is as
Speaker 5: a quarterback, as a human being. Everything I hear about
Speaker 5: him is he's a great kid. You know, I've lived
Speaker 5: in Games Sol for a long time. My kids went
Speaker 5: to the same high school that Anthony Richardson went to.
Speaker 5: I know a lot of people who know him, and
Speaker 5: everybody speaks fondly of this guy. He's a yes, they're
Speaker 5: no ser diligent kid. But he didn't play quarterback a lot.
Speaker 5: He you know, played like a season and a half
Speaker 5: in high school. One of those two seasons he got hurt,
Speaker 5: got a knee injury. He goes to Florida, goes through
Speaker 5: two different coaches, doesn't play a lot. I don't know
Speaker 5: what he is. He's an amazing look an athlete. I
Speaker 5: don't know if he's accurate or not accurate. He played
Speaker 5: with a lot of kind of schmucky kids, you know
Speaker 5: at Florida weren't very good as receivers and skill position guys.
Speaker 5: And even the offensive linemen weren't very good, and he
Speaker 5: played in two different offenses, and Napier's offensive really isn't
Speaker 5: designed for what he does. So he looks fabulous, but
Speaker 5: I don't know that we're going to know the answer
Speaker 5: for two years. And I'm fascinated.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: I was talking to his, to his his personal quarterback coach,
Speaker 5: and he basically said the same thing. I You know,
Speaker 5: you know, everything's going for him from a personality standpoint,
Speaker 5: but nothing replaces the number of induced baseball parlance, the
Speaker 5: number of times you go to bat and see whether
Speaker 5: you can hit it, or you know, in football terms,
Speaker 5: when you see or when you have to make a
Speaker 5: seam throw, you know, over the linebacker in front of
Speaker 5: the safety and fit that ball in as you're getting
Speaker 5: you know, you know, rushed by a three hundred pounds man, like,
Speaker 5: can you hang in there and make that throw? And
Speaker 5: no idea, I have no idea. It looks great, but
Speaker 5: I have no idea if he can play.
Speaker 2: He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two, that is,
Speaker 2: at Jason Cole sixty two, already getting ready for enshrining
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson into the Hall of very.
Speaker 6: Good with the Gardnermans in the George into the George
Speaker 6: Hall of Fame, okay, and Mullet and Mulley Hall of
Speaker 6: Fame and the Indianapolis every white.
Speaker 4: Dude Hall of Fame, brownsing the George like you would
Speaker 4: do baby booties.
Speaker 3: There you go, there you go.
Speaker 5: Him and Alex, Alex Marvez, George.
Speaker 2: See you man, Jacob boy. No, nobody like Jason Cole,
Speaker 2: that's for sure. No, George. You guess about Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 2: And we got like a minute and a half on
Speaker 2: Gardnerman shoe.
Speaker 3: You're so excited. How excited he getting back with George?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, George said, you know, listen, I didn't an association.
Speaker 2: I didn't know George was so bad until well after
Speaker 2: the fact. Oh like, I like, I remember, well, I
Speaker 2: don't put that. Ou'tm not wearing anymore. I wore George
Speaker 2: in years. Okay, I did not like because in the nineties,
Speaker 2: you know, when I was you know what was growing up? Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: George was a very popular Geene show. Okay, right, it's
Speaker 2: fine in the summer, I'm gonna wear Jeene shorts. What
Speaker 2: and now it's like it became as oh man georts.
Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, George was really I don't remember it
Speaker 2: always being really that bad. I think this is one
Speaker 2: of those things that's been reinvented in the last fifteen
Speaker 2: or twenty years. But like, oh yeah, georts are bad, Joe.
Speaker 2: I think George and Georgs were okay in the early nineties.
Speaker 4: In the midnight I always sat there were okay for women.
Speaker 4: I don't think it'll fly the same way.
Speaker 2: Look and see there's there's lots of videos of music
Speaker 2: videos of guys wearing jeorts.
Speaker 3: All sure there are.
Speaker 2: I guarantee I wore Chris Warred, Georgs Frostburg still wears georts.
Speaker 2: Guarantee you. I can see music videos anywhere from from
Speaker 2: Screaming Trees to Will Smith, and guys are wearing jeorts
Speaker 2: in them.
Speaker 3: You're saying, Mark Lanagin is running around. Guarantee you.
Speaker 2: Can look at it. People are wearing now wearing the
Speaker 2: long George because I like the long Joe long joints. No,
Speaker 2: I mean not that, not that those are really George
Speaker 2: short tight ones, but you might as well call those caprita. Well,
Speaker 2: they'd been replaced by capri pants, which is very evolutionible. Yeah,
Speaker 2: in Europe. It's very fashionable. I mean not here.
Speaker 4: I mean I could get away with it because I
Speaker 4: mean that I can show off my cans just like
Speaker 4: I do. You wearing shorts every day?
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Speaker 3: Today, as we get.
Speaker 2: Set going ahead into this weekend the NFL, all eyes
Speaker 2: on the Jets offensive line. Oh, the offensive line is terrible.
Speaker 3: It's melting in the heat.
Speaker 2: Everything is fine, Everything is fine.
Speaker 4: As long as Rogers has a headset on and he's
Speaker 4: on the sideline, sure line.
Speaker 2: Everything is good. Everything is awesome. It's like the Lego
Speaker 2: movie The Piece of Resistance. Everything is fine.
Speaker 4: Does he get fined for tampering for putting that Bachtiari
Speaker 4: hashtag on that little tribute video he did to his
Speaker 4: number seventeen receivers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about. I have
Speaker 2: no comment on that. I have no comment. You have
Speaker 2: no comment. I have no comment. I have no comment.
Speaker 3: Do you not know the rules? I have no comment.
Speaker 2: I have no comment. I have no comment on who
Speaker 2: may or may not be playing games. There's a problem Jets. Now, Hey,
Speaker 2: let's be saying before I give it, Before I give
Speaker 2: what my biggest fear for the for the season, I'm
Speaker 2: tell you this, Uh thirty one other teams in the
Speaker 2: NFL would trade their problems for the Jets problems. No,
Speaker 2: not rosters. They would trade their problems because what's the
Speaker 2: Jets problem? They got four guys are trying to figure
Speaker 2: out who they're.
Speaker 3: Offering and which means they don't have two. That's it.
Speaker 2: That's it, that's their that's it.
Speaker 3: Everybody else is pretty important everybody.
Speaker 4: You're not seeing the lawsuit going on with the guy
Speaker 4: that was a blind side protector.
Speaker 2: They have four guys. They don't have Michael. They have
Speaker 2: four guys. They just have to feel who are our best?
Speaker 3: Means they're not the only problem. They watched them get worked.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 5: Boo.
Speaker 2: They just won twenty seven nothing. They shut out the
Speaker 2: Panthers and ran for on hundred and sixty. Other Panthers
Speaker 2: are gonna stay, doesn't mab I that's the that's the
Speaker 2: only game. What do you have me to tell it?
Speaker 2: With Sam Sam Sam running the show? Every other team,
Speaker 2: that's the only Jets problem. Other teams all have more
Speaker 2: problems the Jets. That's their problem.
Speaker 4: You're just saying they're defending Super Bowl chats and have
Speaker 4: more problems. Yes, right, just because they've decided they're going
Speaker 4: to get another set of people rings, that's their problem.
Speaker 2: Bringing in five new receivers. We like to spread the wealth.
Speaker 2: Are their receivers going to work? Can they run the football?
Speaker 2: That's already that's already one more problem on offense than
Speaker 2: the Jets.
Speaker 4: But see that's the thing and we went into last
Speaker 4: year with those questions and they were all answered.
Speaker 2: So if we want to do the same thing again,
Speaker 2: I'll go with track history problems coming in. The Jets
Speaker 2: have the least of any team in the NFL. That's
Speaker 2: the one problem any team would say. I'd love to say,
Speaker 2: we don't know, they have no expectation. Everything else, Well,
Speaker 2: there you go out. I think that covers everything.
Speaker 3: But that helps you.
Speaker 2: There's no spectations, there's no expectations for winning that you
Speaker 2: don't have a problem. Here we go and the Bears
Speaker 2: on the boy, do they keep justin fields or do
Speaker 2: they draft Caleb Williams.
Speaker 4: Exactly back home? That are doing that hot take already?
Speaker 4: What if it doesn't work, but look yeah, because they'll
Speaker 4: be drafting first come on.
Speaker 2: My biggest fear this year is not that the Jets stink.
Speaker 2: My biggest fear is that the Jet stink and the
Speaker 2: Giants go to the Super Bowl. There's not much I
Speaker 2: can say because I am a big believer in the Giants.
Speaker 2: You had Gronk say this week that, hey, if any
Speaker 2: coach could lure him out of retirement, it's Brian Dable.
Speaker 2: Now that's not happening because you have Darren Waller, you
Speaker 2: have Daniel Bellinger, you're pretty set it tight, and he's
Speaker 2: retired for a couple of years. But Dable is like
Speaker 2: the new Belichick. Watching the Giants play last year, there
Speaker 2: was no team that was always as well prepared for
Speaker 2: their opponent as the Giants were. Whether it was we're
Speaker 2: playing a team below us, we're prepared, team same talent level.
Speaker 2: We're prepared, team above us, we're prepared. We always have
Speaker 2: the advantage like the Patriots used to have in Tom
Speaker 2: Brady's day, when whenever Belichick would play a team, you knew, hey,
Speaker 2: we're ahead of whatever you think.
Speaker 3: Well, they're not gonna beat themselves, they're not gonna beat
Speaker 3: a bunch.
Speaker 2: Of p We're ahead of where We're ahead of where
Speaker 2: you were, where you think we are. That's Hey, I
Speaker 2: think we know how we're gonna play the Patriots this week,
Speaker 2: and the pages ain't. We're onto something else, right, We're
Speaker 2: on to Cincinnati. That's the Giants. That's Brian Dable. I
Speaker 2: told you middle of last year there was one choice
Speaker 2: for coach of the Year in the NFL. It was
Speaker 2: Brian Dable. That was not a really talented Giants team.
Speaker 2: And what did they do. They got to the playoffs
Speaker 2: and they showed that in the offseason we're not gonna
Speaker 2: sit still. Right They paid Daniel Jones, who turned out
Speaker 2: to be the right quarterback in the system. Because Dabele says, hey, rightfully, So,
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones is kind of like a scaled down version
Speaker 2: of Josh Allen. You win with Daniel Jones. Saquon Barkley
Speaker 2: could have been a big deal. Nope, I'm not holding out.
Speaker 2: I'm coming in. I'm hungry. I want that contract after
Speaker 2: this year. What else did they do? We need more weapons.
Speaker 2: They went out and brought in new wide receivers. You
Speaker 2: have Hodgens coming off the last year at a great
Speaker 2: playoff game, Wandelle Robinson coming off the torn ACL. He
Speaker 2: went out and got Darren Waller, who, as long as
Speaker 2: he's healthy, is going to be the big weapon there.
Speaker 2: The Giants are legit and they don't have the big
Speaker 2: our power, so it's easy to dismiss them, but watch
Speaker 2: out because that's a super Bowl team in New York.
Speaker 2: And that's my big fears. I'm seeing headlines the New
Speaker 2: York Post going Aaron Rodgers not even the best quarterback
Speaker 2: in New York State. Josh Allen's better, Daniel Jones is better.
Speaker 2: We thought it was all about the Jets. It's all
Speaker 2: about the Giants and telling you the Giants are a
Speaker 2: super Bowl team.
Speaker 4: Well, you're still on the metal stand there, Smith, So
Speaker 4: that's good for you. You draft Jalen Hyatt, who's been
Speaker 4: wowing people and making tongues weg in training camp throughout.
Speaker 4: You look at the offensive line is stellar, the defense
Speaker 4: is going to be game. The NFC East is going
Speaker 4: to be back to cannibalization and a lot of infighting.
Speaker 4: So we'll see who can emerge. A lot of people
Speaker 4: just assuming Dallas, and certainly the betting odds say that
Speaker 4: the Giants currently sitting at what sixty or sixty six
Speaker 4: to one on most betting boards to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: But Daniel Jones is the one million, two hundred million
Speaker 4: dollar question.
Speaker 3: I forget what the total hundred six million for four
Speaker 3: year so right in the.
Speaker 4: Mid yeah, so it's the the idea that you can
Speaker 4: coax a bigger performance out of him game to game. Now,
Speaker 4: Saquon Barkley is going to be make everything burn right.
Speaker 4: So if he's healthy, we've seen what he can do
Speaker 4: in the seasons that he's been healthy. So you have
Speaker 4: that as your base. You bring in all these wide receivers.
Speaker 4: You don't have to like Cole Beasley. Colby Beasley moves
Speaker 4: the chains and keeps things alive. Shepherd all of those
Speaker 4: guys that have been there that you've watched for the years.
Speaker 4: I'm really curious to watch what Daniel Jones is in
Speaker 4: this offense with another year of tutelage and with the
Speaker 4: backing that they've made him the guy right, there's no questions.
Speaker 4: It's no longer the fifty year option questions or any
Speaker 4: of that stuff. So yeah, it could be your worst nightmare.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, man, it's I can see it. I
Speaker 4: can see oh Jetch just struggling. Giants have no problems.
Speaker 4: The giants are the real story. I could see it.
Speaker 4: That music, it seems like it's getting out there. Jason Smith,
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