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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of I Heart Radio. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology

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Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on the show Big Things

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Speaker 1: that are usually small. You know that recurring dream you

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Speaker 1: have when you're trying to sit on a normal sized toilet,

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Speaker 1: but oh it's huge, Or you're looking at a beautiful

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Speaker 1: butterfly and suddenly it's the size of a kite. No,

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Speaker 1: that's just me. Anyways, We're going to check out some

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Speaker 1: animals that you would typically think of as being small

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Speaker 1: but sometimes gets super large and very hunky chunky. From

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Speaker 1: moths to snails, to frogs and pollywogs. These animals will

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Speaker 1: give you a huge surprise to discover this and more

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Speaker 1: as we answer the angel question could you carry a

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Speaker 1: sea slug around in a baby Bjorn joining me today

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Speaker 1: to talk about giant animals is regular sized human comedian

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Speaker 1: in Science with bulliv Ganalan. I just felt so good

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Speaker 1: when you called me regular sized, like I'm supposed to

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Speaker 1: be the way I am. You're just a human sized, correct,

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Speaker 1: and I'm shaped the way I'm supposed to be, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, like there's a great diversity of human shapes

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Speaker 1: and stuff, but like, hey, we won, We're in some

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Speaker 1: of those shapes exactly. We're not like a a tiny rectangle.

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Speaker 1: I wake up every day kind of happy that I

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Speaker 1: didn't turn into a little rectangle. That's your coughka nightmare

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Speaker 1: is becoming a shape. Becoming a shape. Yeah, Like you know,

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Speaker 1: if you turn into a giant cockroach, I think it's workable.

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Speaker 1: You still have limbs, you still have eyes and sensory organs.

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Speaker 1: If I turn into like a wake up and find

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Speaker 1: I just turned conceptually into a trapezoid, that would suck,

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Speaker 1: And I feel like it would be kind of fun though.

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Speaker 1: Imagine all the places you could fit, you know, like

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Speaker 1: structurally a flat land or situation. Though, because if I'm

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Speaker 1: two dimensional, everything is lines to me, which actually might

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Speaker 1: make things simpler. Every time I see that in like

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Speaker 1: animated shows where things go two D all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: just because they wanted to feature a new animator, it's

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Speaker 1: kind of fun. It's definitely scary, and they usually portray

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Speaker 1: someone on drugs or something, but it's kind of fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess it would be fun, you know, like if

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Speaker 1: I was given the chance to experience the two dimensional lifestyle,

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Speaker 1: I think I probably take the wizard turning people into

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Speaker 1: two dimensional things up on it. Yeah, just like a

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Speaker 1: little vacaneto the two D world, you know, right right,

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Speaker 1: But four D I don't know that way, that would

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Speaker 1: get freaky. Yeah, I don't know. I'm down for anything. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'll do any dimension one TILIVI is open minded to

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Speaker 1: four dimensional fun. Just a three dimensional girl looking for

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Speaker 1: some four dimensional that sounds like a bad category on

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Speaker 1: an Internet that missed connections, the four dimensional trapezoid concept.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to name that for my memoir. Well, today

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Speaker 1: we are talking about dimensions. We're talking about animals who

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Speaker 1: we typically think of as being small or medium sized

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Speaker 1: think it's there's something interesting because it's not like these

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Speaker 1: are the biggest animals in the world. But when you

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Speaker 1: think of a big animal, like a blue whale, it's like,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, like it's a skyscraper sized whale. Like I

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Speaker 1: get it though, it's a blue whale. But when it's

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Speaker 1: an animal that's like usually little and then it's suddenly

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Speaker 1: really big, there's something almost more intimidating about that. It's

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Speaker 1: like they are punching way above their their belt like

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Speaker 1: it's it's unsettling. It is very unsettling because we're used

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Speaker 1: to seeing, especially with like creepy crawley things. At least

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Speaker 1: the one thing about them is that they're small, so

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Speaker 1: we can like feel like we have control over all

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Speaker 1: of their little limbs and whatnot. But when they're big

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Speaker 1: it feels uncontrollable. Um, but it's cool. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: getting big. Yeah, exactly. Well. The first animal we're talking

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Speaker 1: about is the Hercules mop which is very aptly named.

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Speaker 1: It is the biggest moth in the world, so it

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Speaker 1: is found in Australia of course, of course. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: when I think of a moth, I kind of think

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Speaker 1: of the guys that liked flock around the lights outside.

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Speaker 1: some oh wow, when you put it on your face

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Side note, don't buy moth balls. They are

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Speaker 1: just poison and then you cannot find a way to

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Speaker 1: balls one time in my master's program, and then I

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Speaker 1: just had I just possessed poison, which is bad. But

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Speaker 1: I do not know this. I did not know this.

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Speaker 1: What you should do is actually cedar, because cedar is

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Speaker 1: not not that toxic take people, but it is unpleasant

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Speaker 1: for moths. So if you use like they have cedar

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Speaker 1: strips or cedar blocks, but not the actual poison mothballs, like,

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Speaker 1: that's a lot better. Then it smells nice. Why do

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Speaker 1: they sell mothballs if they're seedar? Like, why is that

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Speaker 1: a product that exist? They went on too hard with mothballs,

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Speaker 1: and they were like, let's kill off some humans sized

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Speaker 1: humans at the same time, and I didn't. I guess

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Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking about the danger to humans with mothballs.

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Speaker 1: But like, I have a dog, and I'm like, for

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Speaker 1: I feel that way. I feel what you just said

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Speaker 1: about your dog putting stuff in her mouth that can

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Speaker 1: that's the wait men. So I get it, little dog,

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Speaker 1: the moth balls as men. Yeah, um okay, I want

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Speaker 1: that's I think the ultimate um revenge story. Because we're

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Speaker 1: we this is this is discrimination. It's rude, and I'm

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Speaker 1: glad they're big and covering our faces. I mean they don't,

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Speaker 1: but they should be because we're being We're just so

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Speaker 1: You know, moths are chill, like they're just hanging out.

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Speaker 1: Why are we so mean to them? Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: it is unfair that like certain insects were like, oh,

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Speaker 1: though like they're definitely butterflies that if you put in

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Speaker 1: that Katie's don't He's like, but yeah, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: interesting because yeah, moths and butterflies are very very similar

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Speaker 1: that are some of the most beautiful examples of lepidoptery

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Speaker 1: and they're like really fuzzy, fluffy, cute ones too. So

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't get the moth hate, like sure,

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Speaker 1: I mean, like pantry moths are annoying. I don't like

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Speaker 1: those and clothing moths are annoying. But when it's just

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Speaker 1: because you know, I'm weird and and hate cool things

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Speaker 1: like moths. I just invented a person to be angry at. Well,

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Speaker 1: that person exists. Many people hate hate moths. Moths. Uh

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Speaker 1: teach us a lot of lessons, like go into the light.

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Speaker 1: That's one that I need to be ready to enact

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Speaker 1: be expressing pharomounts like that's another one. That's another lesson.

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Speaker 1: May be ep always be pheromones they teach you in

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Speaker 1: business school, right exactly. But yeah, so so these moths

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Speaker 1: these interesting white markings kind of looks like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: just ridiculously huge, Like you put this thing. I feel

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Speaker 1: we'll get to the where I could potentially wear this

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Speaker 1: So as caterpillars, they're really chunky as well. They grow

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Speaker 1: and they're this bright, beautiful blue with fleshy green spikes.

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Speaker 1: I love that, love that sleep paralysis demon Michelin Man

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Speaker 1: So this is their main form, Like, this is most

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Speaker 1: spiky man. Yeah. So the caterpillar stage lasts for a

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Speaker 1: it's a common garden snail. Don't do that with just

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Speaker 1: any like snail like animal you find that is unidentified,

424
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,959
Speaker 1: because like some of them cannot be not be too friendly.

425
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: Um Like, if you're on a beach and you see

426
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: like something that looks like a big snail or a

427
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: big like cone like shell, don't pick it up because

428
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: they can actually have toxic barbs they can shoot at you.

429
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,479
Speaker 1: So so yeah, don't pick toxic sounds like someone who

430
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: works at Michael's barb always making my mondays that much worse. Yeah,

431
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: But in terms of terrestrial snails, there are some that

432
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 1: can get alarmingly big. So the giant African land snail

433
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,239
Speaker 1: looks like basically a typical garden snail with maybe a

434
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: point to your shell, but it's huge. So they are

435
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: found around coastal West Africa, and they're shells grow to

436
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: be over seven inches or eighteen centimeters long and three

437
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 1: point five inches or nine centimeters in diameter. And so

438
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 1: the meaty part of the snail is a lot more

439
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 1: squitchy and stretchy, but basically it can cover your entire hand,

440
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: Like if you hold one of these like it's it's

441
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: the foot, which is like the flat part of the

442
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: snail can stretch out and just drape over your whole hand,

443
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: which I know. I'm looking at these pictures, I'm like,

444
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 1: this is a cat. I don't know what you think

445
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: this is, but it's a cat to me. It's so cute.

446
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: It's just like perch there. I want to get it

447
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: a little caller. That's probably bad, a bad instinct of mine.

448
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: Why do we have to domesticate everything. Leave the snail alone, polaviy.

449
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: But it's like so it with its little paw, it

450
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: doesn't technically have feet, but I know it's it's so big.

451
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: It has these folds and so in this picture, which

452
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: i'll have in the show notes, it's just post it's

453
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 1: so photogenic too, because it's got it's little a fold

454
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: of its foot just draped over her hand, and it's

455
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: like looking mugging for the camera. And it's got its

456
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: little tentacles all pointed up. It looks like a it's

457
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 1: like it's very rabbit. Like I was gonna say that,

458
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say that the mouth, the nose

459
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: area looks like a rabbit because of how it's shaped

460
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: that little, those little semicircles. It's a sweet baby that

461
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: I want to hold. I mean I should like. Look,

462
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: I when I discovered these things, I was like, I

463
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 1: want one as a pet. Uh. It is a bad idea, obviously,

464
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: Like anytime it's like, oh, there's this amazing animal that

465
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: I'd love to hug and squeeze and leave it alone.

466
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: Leave it alone, people, let it survive. Well, actually, in

467
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: this case, it's not because the to preserve the giant

468
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: African lance snail, but because they are so good at

469
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: being alive and eating that they can easily become super

470
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: invasive species and destroy vegetation, uh, in native plants in

471
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: the area that they are introduced, so you don't actually

472
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: have to worry too much about them. They are just

473
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: so voracious. They will eat meat, eat, and um. So

474
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: they have actually become a problem. Even that's cute, you

475
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I know, munching and crunch

476
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: and destroying entire crops and native species of plants, ruining

477
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: the ecosystem. Yeah, this is why, that's why we think

478
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: they're cute. They're just like us. They're just behavior people.

479
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: It thinks it's people. It's people. But yeah, I mean

480
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: that this makes them highly illicit in many countries, uh

481
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: and like illegal to own as a pet um I

482
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: mean in Florida. I think they're already becoming an invasive species.

483
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: So I know, like again, like I can predict people's

484
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: response to this, Like, I know my listeners, you look

485
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: at this, You're like, I want it as a pet.

486
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: I want it now, I want one to like I

487
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: you know, I looked into this. It's like, wait, could

488
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: I have this as a pet? No? The answer is no.

489
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: But don't feel bad for want, Like, don't feel bad

490
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: for wanting to hug an animal, Like I think it's

491
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: like it's a natural response to something cool or cute.

492
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: I mean, if you don't find snails cute, I don't

493
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: know how to relate to you. But you know, like

494
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: if you when you see something, you're like, that's cute.

495
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: I want to hug it and keep it as a pet.

496
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: Like I think that's a totally normal human response. It's

497
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: just and I'm not like guilt tripping everyone for feeling man,

498
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: it's just like, you know, it's it's good to make

499
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: note of. It's like, yeah, it's just it's too bad.

500
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,959
Speaker 1: But we can't. We can't do that because you know

501
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: they will eat all of our crops and leave us

502
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: to starve. Man, this is like, um, when after Beverly

503
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: Hills Chihuahua, everybody bought a Chihuahua. Yeah, don't do that

504
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: with this episode. Beverly Hills. Giant snail, giant moths just

505
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: everywhere somewhere some farmers like Katie Golden shaking his face

506
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: and sky just just a huge army of snails with

507
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: like cute little collars on them, escaped little bows on

508
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: their tentacles. Um. Yeah, but they can also be carriers

509
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: of rat lung worm, which is a parasitic nematode who

510
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: uses the giant snails as a host. So you don't

511
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: want to put one of these things in your mouth raw,

512
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: because that can cause meningitis. I mean back to the

513
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: men that I've dated, I feel like this is one

514
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: of those like warning labels they put on knives or

515
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: something where it's like don't put in your body, Like,

516
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: don't don't put this snail in your mouth. Although there

517
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: was a case I think this was not with a

518
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: giant snail, but with a banana slug someone like on

519
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: a dare like ate a banana slug and got rat

520
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: lung worm and gitis. Yeah, so don't do that. Don't

521
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: just do that. Don't put animals in your mouth, right,

522
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: like especially raw animals that you just line that are alive.

523
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: Don't put the especially giant ones. Like that's right. I

524
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: feel like that's I feel like that's uh embarrassing, like

525
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: like for the snail, you know what I mean, Like

526
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: that snail look dignified now you're just putting your mouth

527
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: on it, right, like really, dude, like like millions of

528
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: years of evolution to get to this size. So birds

529
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: don't eat me and you're just like a bed. Come on, man,

530
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: don't be like home or Simpson and a doughnut. With

531
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: these snails, That's exactly what I was picturing. There have

532
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: been specimens that have been found to are almost a

533
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: foot long, so they can be just quite hefty, you

534
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: feel it's like to be able to feel the heft

535
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: of a giant snail is something to think about, you

536
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You hold it in your arms,

537
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 1: you feel the heft of the snail. It looks up

538
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: at you longingly and then eats all your crops and

539
00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: we all die the dream, the dream. But this is

540
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: not the only big chunky mollusk we're going to talk about. Uh.

541
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: So to get to one of the biggest slugs in

542
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: the world, we actually have to look at marine slugs

543
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,239
Speaker 1: or sea hairs. So sea hairs are found within the

544
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: same clade as terrestrial snails and slugs Heterobranchia, and they

545
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: bear a very close resemblance to their land slug counterparts.

546
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: So sea slug is often used to refer to other

547
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: types of sea animals informally, like c cucumbers, but ce

548
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: cucumbers aren't actually gastropods or related to terrestrial slugs. So

549
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: for clarity, I'm specifying sea hairs. But new to brinks

550
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: and other groups of marine gastropods are also members of Heterobranchia.

551
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: So the colorful little new to brinks that you see, um.

552
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: There are other types of like sea slugs that really

553
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: are truly sea slugs. Um. But some some things that

554
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: we call sea slugs or something like a c cucumber,

555
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: and it's just like it's sort of a misnomer. It's

556
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: just like this is this a square's rectangle situation, where

557
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are square or

558
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: not rectangles aren't squares. I mean, this is confusing to

559
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: me because I just like woke up this morning and

560
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: turned into a trapezoid, and so like I'm not, like,

561
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: what do you mean right angles? I don't get it, Okay,

562
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, like, um no, I think it's

563
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,919
Speaker 1: more just of a misnomer, like um, c cucumbers are

564
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: not really slugs in any sense of the word. Like,

565
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: they're not related to slugs, they're not in heterobranchia, they're

566
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 1: not even um they're not even gastropods. So you're not

567
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: even a gas Like you don't even go here. Um,

568
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: you're not even a gastropods. So, like, don't even think

569
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: about sitting here. This is like the table for gastropods.

570
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: Remember that in high school when all the gastro pods

571
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 1: are super clicky, yeahuber real toxic barb. So, sea hairs

572
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: typically grow quite a bit larger than their terrestrial counterparts

573
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: of land snails and slugs. So the giant sea hair

574
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: is just incredibly mind bogglingly big. Uh. So, the black

575
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: sea hair is the largest sea hair there is in

576
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 1: the largest sort of slug type animal in the world.

577
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: They are found in the Pacific Ocean in coastal California.

578
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: They can grow to be almost forty inches long a

579
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: hundred centimeters in way over thirty pounds but fourteen kims

580
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: no way, yes, so big. This is over three times

581
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 1: the size of my dog. Yes, it would like it

582
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,919
Speaker 1: could just eat your dog. It won't eat your dog,

583
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: but it could. They get along. Yeah, probably. It looks

584
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: so when you take it out of the water, it

585
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: kind of like puddles down because you know, there's like

586
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 1: the gravity of like like Alex mac right right throw reference,

587
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: it's kind of spilling over, you know, right exactly, and

588
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: it's this sort of like inky black um with like

589
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: quote unquote bunny ears. So these are actually rhino four's,

590
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: which are sea hair sensory organs um. And so I

591
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: think they're cute, uh and probably very slimy. They only

592
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 1: live about a year, which is incredible given their size,

593
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: because that means they consume just ridiculous amounts of algae

594
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: and grow ridiculously fast to reach that size, and because

595
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 1: they grow to be so big, and because they actually

596
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 1: produce a skin tox and as adults they really don't

597
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: have that mini natural predators. So there are these adorable, toxic,

598
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: slimy thirty pound balls of fun that I want to

599
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 1: carry around, and a baby Bjorn and call a little

600
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: little slimy. I want to be them, Like what you

601
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: get to live fast, die young, eat whatever you want,

602
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: not get touched by anybody. Give it to me. If

603
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: I could redo life, it would be as a sea here,

604
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: but not one that we're messing with. I want to

605
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 1: just be left alone, to be my be, my slightly

606
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: denser puddle in a large puddle of the ocean. I

607
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: feel like these are some really inspirational animals this episode,

608
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: like eat nap and I think you know, mate and

609
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: then die or just eat constantly. I think this is

610
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 1: saying a lot more about us in our depression in

611
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: quarantine that anything else. Every animal we're like, yeah, just

612
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: to not be sentient would be nice. Yeah, I'd like

613
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: to be a black puddle and a bigger black depths

614
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: of the ocean. We start out trying to be shaped,

615
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: so where else could we go from there? Right? I

616
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: mean I'm proud. Look, I think it's accomplishment right to

617
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: be human shaped right now instead of just like congeal

618
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: into like a puddle on the ground it. I guess.

619
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: I don't listen. I'm just existing right now. But the

620
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: sea hare stuff that sounds like it sounds like next level.

621
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 1: It does look a little bit like a squished flubber

622
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: I'm noticing. Oh yeah, I remember flubbers. Yeah yeah, like

623
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: one of those. Like it definitely looks like a depressed flubber,

624
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: like like goth flubber. That's what I think it is.

625
00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: Putting it back into wad. God, it sounds like like

626
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: Niles Crane and we're just being tear I'm not good

627
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: at social situations. Please, I like that. I like that

628
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: one better look at my dad, but little mustache which

629
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: is really just part of my folded foot out in front,

630
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: and I look very fancy, and please put me back.

631
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: I do not belong here, Yeah, I like. I like

632
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: fancy fancy sea here. They do. If you look for

633
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: a lot a lot of different like species of sea

634
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: hairs there. They are quite fancy and a lot of

635
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: frippery and stuff they have. They can be really colorful,

636
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: have a lot of cool folds and stuff. Yeah. I

637
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: like the idea of them being the fancy boys and

638
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: gals of the ocean. Yeah, yeah, just we're just anthroom

639
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: or monster vacation. What is it? I don't know. I

640
00:39:54,920 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: don't know what it would be in this case. In

641
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: the move from sea to land, snails had some extra

642
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 1: slimy adaptations. Their bodies were originally meant for aquatic environments,

643
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: so moisture loss was not a factor, and they would

644
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: typically breathe using gills. Most land snails, however, have evolved

645
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 1: along and can take in air through a respiratory poor

646
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: called a numous stone. They need a thick layer of

647
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: mucus to prevent moisture loss, critical for the help of

648
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: its tissues and for gas exchange to occur in its lung.

649
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: They also make good use of the operculum, a little

650
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: trap door on their shells that their marine counterparts evolved

651
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: for self defense, but terrestrial snails can also use to

652
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: prevent moisture loss. Still, snails prefer moist damp environments so

653
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: they don't end up as accidental scar goat. When we return,

654
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: we're going to go from one slimy critter to another

655
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 1: with some ridiculously of frogs. Frogs they're hippity and hoppity

656
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 1: or crawley or swimming, and they come in green brown, blue, yellow,

657
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: and size is big and small. The smallest frog in

658
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: the world is an adorable micro highland species. Micro highland frogs,

659
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: as you may remember from previous episodes, are teeny tiny frogs.

660
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: Some species even developed symbiotic relationships with tarantulas. The tarantulas

661
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: protect the frogs like little pets in exchange for the

662
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: frogs protecting the tarantula eggs from ant invasions. The smallest

663
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: known frog, Peto fryn amalancists from Papua New Guinea, can

664
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: fit on the face of a quarter from snout to

665
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 1: vent a k a nose to butt. It only grows

666
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: to be about three tenths of an inch or seven

667
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: point seven millimeters. Adorable. Now, let's talk about a frog

668
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: who can grow to be about the size of a

669
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: small chihuahua. So we've talked about small frogs, let's talk

670
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 1: about big frogs. This. Uh, this concerns me now because

671
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: because they're bit so the things we've talked about thus far.

672
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: I guess the moths are a little bit scary, but

673
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: they're flying, I can get away from them. I feel

674
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: like they're slower, right, Uh, frogs jump like very fast. Right.

675
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 1: The snails slugs, they weren't going anywhere the hairs right

676
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: the this frog. I feel like the reason that frogs

677
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: this could alarm me is because they're very slow and

678
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: then very fast. I want to take a frog to

679
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: the face, you know, like it could suddenly jump and

680
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: just smack you right in the face. I think the

681
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: other thing that's interesting is that, like, you know, how

682
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: we have certain stereotypes for animals. I feel like with frogs,

683
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: I feel like they're kind of like like mystic and intelligent,

684
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 1: or we like assign that to them, or like frogs

685
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: are toads. I guess like in general um cartoons and stuff.

686
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: But I guess also like there's the Budweiser ones. But

687
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like they might just have

688
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: too much information to hold for me. It's overwhelming. You know,

689
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: you don't think a slug is going to plan anything,

690
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: but you're worried about a frog with a plan. No,

691
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: it's more like, um, like I'm like, I'm afraid I'm

692
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: going to talk to a frog that will see my future,

693
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: you know, and like I figger the frog is the

694
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: like the more intimidating it is to me, sort of

695
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: a hypnotode situation. Where you look into its eyes and

696
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: like you you see the fourth dimension, and then your

697
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: brain melt and then I am the fourth dimension. Uh,

698
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: and you can't even find in and out in the

699
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: fourth dimension. That's only in California. So the goliath frog,

700
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 1: which is very aptly named because it's a prey big frog.

701
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: It's the largest living frog in the world. It is

702
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: an endangered species with a relatively small range in Equatorial

703
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: Guinea in Cameroon, so they live in sandy bottomed rivers

704
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: and they grow up to be thirteen inches or thirty

705
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 1: two centimeters long from nose to butt and weigh over

706
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: seven pounds or over three kilograms. So you know, it's

707
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 1: like I feel like, even though these are technically smaller

708
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: than the black sea hair, it's still more intimidating because

709
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: they had legs. Man, Yeah, they have legs. It's the legs.

710
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: It's the big muscular media legs. They did not skip

711
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 1: leg day or arm day, and they just like look swollen.

712
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: It's the sea here's look like you know that image

713
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: of like the animal creature forming legs and coming out

714
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: of the primordial goop type things, right, that's like the

715
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: first the sea hares like the first half frogs like

716
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: the second half where it has legs. It's one of us.

717
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: It's like a person, but it's a frog, you know

718
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, I don't think evolution did that.

719
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: Space did not hair to frog, and it did in

720
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: the cartoon that everyone references that. So it looks like that.

721
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: It's like, now it's not just this like um amorphous

722
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: bushy thing. It's it's like it's got us qualities, you know,

723
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: it's taking it's taking a definitive form. It's like Otto

724
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: going from goo to Otto. And Star Trek, which one

725
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: was that I did not watch any of that. Well,

726
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: you're on your own, God damn it. You know Deep Space, No,

727
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 1: not Deep Spit has Star Trek Battle, Star Star Trek,

728
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: Star Trek one where we're not on we're on a

729
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: like the base station Star Star Trek generation zoomer. What.

730
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: So these frogs are brownish all of color, with a

731
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: yellowish stomach. They can live up to about fifteen years

732
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: old in the wild or over twenty years in captivity.

733
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: So you can keep one of these, I mean don't

734
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: but y'all like, don't do this, but uh, you know,

735
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: like they would be if if you are like a

736
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: witch living in their natural habitat and you have like

737
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: a little hut in the woods, and you're like, you

738
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: have one of these is like a familiar. It's gonna

739
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: have the same lifespan as like a cat or a dog. Wow,

740
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: I'm looking at all these pictures of people holding them

741
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: and they look so uncomfortable, like they're stretching them out.

742
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: They're just like displaying them, and I'm like this this guy.

743
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: First of all, it's freaky deeky because the legs are

744
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: so long, like they're the jawline is like very like

745
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: thick and broad, and then the body is there and

746
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: then the like the back legs are like people legs.

747
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: It's like they could like they feel like they could

748
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: walk up right. When they're like split out like that,

749
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: it's like creepy, and it does not feel like the

750
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: way they're holding them. I'm like this, it can't be

751
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: good for you. Like you're gonna get cursed. You're gonna

752
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: get cursed little little kids. You're gonna yeah, you're gonna

753
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 1: get hexed by or just punched. Like they don't even

754
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: need to curse them. They could just like punch them

755
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: with their big strong legs and fore legs. Uh, they

756
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 1: kind of have Dave Batista vibe to me, like the

757
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 1: general shape he was, like the he was in Guardians

758
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: of the Galaxy. Wow, that's so funny. Okay, I can

759
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: see it because he's got like long legs and like

760
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 1: a thick torso right right, it's like a fit dude.

761
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: Right yeah, yeah, exactly. Um no, no insult to Dave

762
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: Bautista because episode brought to you by Dave Bautista. So

763
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: they are predators, which is cool. Who coo cool? Uh?

764
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: They as adults will prey upon a large variety of

765
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: small critters, from insects to smaller frogs, crustaceans, baby turtles

766
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: and snakes and rodents. And one instance, a bat was

767
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: found in a goliath frog's stomach, which just must have

768
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: been and like can you imagine that one, Like I

769
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 1: guess until it got caught and like someone was poking

770
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: around in its stomach. That was like a bragging rights

771
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: day And no, no other frog probably believe it's like

772
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 1: I caught a flying mouse and they're like okay, sure, sure, John,

773
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: like whatever this is like, uh, this is like the

774
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: Batman villain origin story. Like it's like I I thought

775
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: the bat and I won. The joker is just a

776
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: goliath frog. I mean it's got the same similar it's

777
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: a it's interesting color palette. You know, we live in

778
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:39,959
Speaker 1: a we live in a society, says this frog. So

779
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: why do they get so big. It's actually because they're

780
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: great parents. Uh, they like to do home projects. So

781
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: males construct nests for their offspring, and females guard the nests.

782
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: So these nests are basically private ponds that they construct

783
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: for their offspring, either by digging a ditch near a

784
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: pool and then blocking it off from the rest of

785
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: the pool with a large rocks, or by creating a

786
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: damn in a larger pool with rocks, creating a private area.

787
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: So it's you know, it's like a National Lampoon Christmas vacation,

788
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: where like the whole plot is about he wants pool

789
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 1: for his family, except in this scenario, he's super buff

790
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: and the wife is also super buff, and the wife

791
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: like hunts down the guy who's going to deny them

792
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: their pool and punches them in the face. That's the

793
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: version that I decided to see. It's a better version, right.

794
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: I just think it's interesting that, like all they're trying

795
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: to do is protect their family, and we're just like

796
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: yanking them out and taking picture. I mean, that's basically

797
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: the story for any picture of someone holding up an animal.

798
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: I know, I don't know why I'm so affected by

799
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: this one in particular. I'm like, I feel like it's

800
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: just like them trying to, like with their little legs,

801
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: like dangling and trying to like grasp at anything. Yeah. Bad,

802
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: It's that they're not meant to be held up in

803
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: this position. It's kind of like when you like hold

804
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 1: a cat up by the scruff of it, but it's

805
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: like an adult and you really need to support the

806
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: rest of its body because it's like to like it's

807
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: really only good for kittens, like to hold it by

808
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: the scruff of its neck. But like when someone holds

809
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: an adult by the scruff of its neck and they're

810
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: not like supporting it's but it's like it just looks uncomfortable,

811
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: like you're you're squishing it. No, it's too hefty, don't

812
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: do that. But to be able to construct a pond

813
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: by excavation and lifting rocks, they literally have to be

814
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: buff They they need these big, froggy muscles. That's why

815
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: it looks like Dave Batista, Like they have these strong

816
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: arms and strong they're not really arms, but like strong

817
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: fore limbs and strong hind limbs to be able to

818
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: dig and lift rocks and make these constructions. And females

819
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: also need to be pretty buff because they're the guards.

820
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: They are going to aggressively defend this pool, this private

821
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: pool for their offspring from any toxic barbs who come around.

822
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: Wants to like, oh, can I just like pop over

823
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: and use your pool for a minute. It's like, no,

824
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: my kids are using this pool and then they fight,

825
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: but they've been I'm looking forward to motherhood. Frankly, I

826
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 1: would love a w w E style like Housewives of

827
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: Orange County. It's just like they're all super buff and

828
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 1: they solve all their problems with choreographed ww E style wrestling. Yeah,

829
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: that sounds super fun. Actually, I feel like that's what

830
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: that's what they were trying to make glow. Yeah, they're

831
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: having it a little bit of a backstory, you know. Yeah,

832
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: I mean that is essentially, but I mean in real life,

833
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: like real like real ladies with real problems, but then

834
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: they work it out in in the ring, you know

835
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, Katie, do you do you think

836
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: wrestling is real? What do you mean it's not really? No? No, no, no, no,

837
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 1: you're right. Let's move on. Look at the really doesn't

838
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: care about his family. I'm sure he does. I'm sure

839
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: he does. He really didn't need to get revenge on

840
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: screwdriver man. I don't actually want. Um, guess how big

841
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: the tadpoles are for these massive frogs. I don't know

842
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: what that looks like. I don't like. Okay, don't don't

843
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 1: look at don't look at the images. Just okay, wait,

844
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: so you said, so, describe how big the frog is again.

845
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: Um that by the way, just for your information, those

846
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: images are misleading, so don't go by the ok the frog.

847
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 1: The frog grows to be up to about thirteen inches

848
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: or thirty two cimeters long, and they weigh over seven

849
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: pounds or three kms. I don't know what ratio I'm

850
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: coming up with, but I'll say, like, then, five or

851
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: six inches is what I would expect a tadpole to be.

852
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: Is that right? Drum roll? They're just regular tadpool size.

853
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: They're like, well, yeah, they're they only grow to be

854
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 1: about like, you know, an inch long. Maybe, Um, because

855
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:14,479
Speaker 1: I warned you, because after being a tadpole, they grow

856
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 1: into a froglet, so a little tiny frog, and that

857
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: froglet then just grows bigger and bigger and bigger and

858
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: bigger until it becomes the biggest frog in the world.

859
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: So tadpole size doesn't necessarily mean like it can indicate

860
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: it's going to be a bigger, bigger frog, but it

861
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: really just depends on what its development is like. So

862
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: some frogs like developed much bigger tadpoles and invest a

863
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: lot of their bulk developing during the tadpole stage. Some

864
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: frogs go from being a tadpole to being a froglet

865
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: relatively quickly, and most of the bulking up happens with

866
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: the froglet. Some some of them literally shrink, so they

867
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: go from being a larger tadpole to being a smaller

868
00:53:55,520 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: adult frog because they're seems that seems bad, that seems

869
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: not allowed. I feel like paradox I think it's called

870
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:08,479
Speaker 1: paradoxical frogs. That sounds like something from the Hitchhiker's Guide.

871
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: I just don't believe it. Also, this is like, um,

872
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: this is like the teacup pig problem where people were

873
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: kept trying to buy tiny pigs and then they just

874
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 1: turned into big, big pigs. Well it's because they were babies, yeah,

875
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: I know, but people thought they were like bread to

876
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: be tiny little baby pigs forever. Yeah, the micro pigs

877
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: can be. They're still small adults, but they don't remain

878
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: cute little piglets forever. So you have to be prepared

879
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: for like a big that hefty like adult. Uh. I

880
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: think they're big. They're like a Yeah, I think they're

881
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: like a pop belly pig that's been bred to be smaller.

882
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, like as adults they get big and hairy

883
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: and round and and like I mean, I still and

884
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: who doesn't who amongst us doesn't I feel like I've

885
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: gotten bigger and harrier just within the past four hours,

886
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: so like I'm seeing it before my eyes. People have

887
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: to chill out about this is like I mean, with

888
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 1: every animal, we're trying to just make it be like

889
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: cute and small forever. And it's like, just let animals

890
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: be animals, you know what I mean. Yeah, let's let

891
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: this like giant muscular frog go around talking about protein shakes.

892
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: It's all right, don't pick them up. I have gotten

893
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: this is a side note, but I've gotten very against

894
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: like breeding of almost any kind where like even now

895
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: with like fish and like hamsters, I'm like, why why

896
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: are we doing this thing with animals where we're like

897
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: are you not? And today like don't we have enough

898
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,760
Speaker 1: books to read? Like why do we have to breed

899
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: every animal? Like developed play the piano, like learn, learn something.

900
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: Don't just get a pet, a bread pet. There's other

901
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 1: animals that need to be saved. Get get a little

902
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 1: weird mutt from the rescue. Don't bad things into existence

903
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,720
Speaker 1: that don't need to be a lot mom and dad. Okay,

904
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 1: just for your own entertainment and comfort, all right, this

905
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: is the new thing. Every I have friends with like hamsters,

906
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: and I just smile and nod because I'm just like,

907
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: I don't see why do you need why do you

908
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: need that? You know what I mean, It's just weird.

909
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 1: It started to become weird to me. It's just very

910
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 1: weird to me. The whole thing is weird to me.

911
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: Just like, say, then, animal, stop doing things for your

912
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: entertainment and go like, don'tate to a local charity. I

913
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know what I'm saying, but I'm

914
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: sick of this whole thing. I love this ramp. I

915
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: I actually I really agree, especially I know this is

916
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: a tangent, but really quickly, like with with breeding animals,

917
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: it's like it really should be about the like especially

918
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: with dogs, like it should be about the health and

919
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: emotional health of the dogs, Like I don't need a

920
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: dog that has an extra pair of eyes on it.

921
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 1: But like you know, it's well not what you're saying

922
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: it and I'm kidding, kidding, speaking of extra pair of

923
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: eyes on its, but this frog, now I'm kidding. Um no,

924
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:10,959
Speaker 1: I definitely that way too. But somehow, back to tadpoles.

925
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,720
Speaker 1: I shared with you this picture of this absolutely massive

926
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: tadpole and like probably you thought, like, oh, this is

927
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: probably the tadpole for the glade frog, and that would

928
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: be a reasonable assumption, but this is actually the tadpole

929
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: for a bull frog, and bull frogs do actually get

930
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: to be quite big, so it's like not like too

931
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: unusual for there to be a larger tadpole, But this

932
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: tadpole is unique. This is the unicorn of tadpoles. This

933
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: is the biggest tadpole ever discovered. This is a tadpole

934
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: named Dart, who is a unusually large bull frog tadpole

935
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: unusually large tadpole in general just like should not be

936
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: this big. It was discovered by research ecologists in Arizona.

937
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: The tadpole was ten inches or over only five cimeters long.

938
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: This is even larger than most adult bullfrogs. So this

939
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: tadpole is an extreme outlier. Like other record breaking large tadpoles,

940
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: it may actually never mature into adulthood, which signals that

941
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: it has extremely atypical hormones. And this is called neatany

942
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: in like where it's like you retain your juvenile characteristics

943
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: throughout your whole life, and in some amphibious species, like

944
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: in species of salamanders, uh, neatany is is common and

945
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: it's like a normal part of the species life. So

946
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: axlotls are actually juvenile salamander that just like maintain their

947
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: juvenile characteristics their whole life, for through their whole life cycle.

948
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: The men of if you will, don't cancel me, man,

949
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: But so far this tadpole, it's really interesting because this

950
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: is obviously an outlier, this is a mutation, but it

951
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: kind of give you a little bit of a sense

952
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: of like how these like this neatony can evolve in

953
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: other species of amphibians where you just like this tadpole

954
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: just like decided not to become an adult and just

955
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: become a bigger and bigger tadpole. Don't worry about this

956
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: this big chalky boy. Like he's being kept safe by

957
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: ecologists who are curious to see how long he lives

958
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: and how big he gets. So he is being probably

959
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: one of the luckiest tadpoles, just like getting to live

960
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: the cushy life, just being enormous and eating all the time.

961
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 1: Got I mean, I am like genuinely jealous of of

962
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: these animals in this episode, just get all all vibes,

963
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: no thoughts, you know what I mean? I know, and

964
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: it's like it just gets to be a big baby

965
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: its whole life, and scientists are thrilled and they even

966
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: lit it drink beer. Now I'm kidding, but there is

967
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: a photo of it being held up next to a

968
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: cores cam to show how massive it is. I don't

969
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: like picture because it looks like they're squeezing it, you

970
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like all of these pictures, I'm like,

971
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: leave them alone. I don't know what I want to

972
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: see the pictures. I like seeing the pictures, but I'm

973
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: also like to put them down. Yeah, I don't unhand them.

974
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: I don't actually think it's being squeezed. I think it's

975
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: just so chunky that like they of it being gently held.

976
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: It's just like spilling over the recently fingers. It's just

977
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:37,439
Speaker 1: all in my head, honestly, but but I I feel it. Yeah,

978
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: just like leave them alone, leave these tad giant tad

979
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: poles alone. Yeah, but dart dart Is is probably living

980
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: the high life being you know, got it's got its

981
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: beer and it's a it's banana, it's banana. But that

982
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: was also I guess for scale. I hope that they

983
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 1: gave it the beer and banana afterwards, like you did

984
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: a good job during the photo show. Yeah, now, doll

985
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: feed beard of tad pulls. Guys, we have had too

986
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: many disclaimers for this to be a responsible episode. Don't

987
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: just overall disclaimer. Never listen to anything I say. There

988
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: we go, So before we go, I want to end

989
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: with a listener email. Actually in response to a recent

990
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: episode where we talked about sawfish, which is a type

991
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 1: of ray that actually looks like it's got a softhore

992
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: nose and it's really cool and it's not a nose.

993
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: It's actually rostrum so like that this like uh pointy

994
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: bit that comes off of the front of a fish. Um.

995
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: So this is the email. Hi, your discussion on today's

996
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: episode about sawfish reminded me of a museum piece I

997
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: saw when I visited Berlin in nine. It's a sword

998
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: made from a sawfish rostrum. I forget what year it's from,

999
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: but it was in the Medieval Renaissance section at the

1000
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: Deutsches History Eaches Museum in Berlin. I love the show.

1001
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: Thank you, Neil Miller. Thank you so much for your email. Neil,

1002
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: I had no idea that people made sawfish swords, but

1003
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 1: I guess it makes total sense, like that humans would

1004
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: do that. We see an animal that looks like it's

1005
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: gotta gott a chainsaw for a nose, and then we

1006
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: turned swords into it. We see a weapon, We make

1007
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 1: a weapon. That's us. That is us stand off. I

1008
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 1: doubt these were ever used as actual weapons. They don't

1009
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: look super practical. Oh good, so we just made it

1010
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: for no reason, but yeah, you know, just for fun

1011
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: to you was after maybe it was after one died.

1012
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: One would hope. I wouldn't guarantee it, but I don't know.

1013
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: It's probably made out of the cartilage skeleton left behind

1014
01:02:56,320 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: from a dead sawfish is rostrum. So uh, sharks and rays,

1015
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 1: like they actually don't have um bones like humans do.

1016
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: They have cartilage. And we actually do have cartilage like

1017
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 1: in our nose and in our ears, but in in

1018
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: sharks and rays, the cartilage is very hard and bone

1019
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: like us, so it can that's like when they leave

1020
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: behind these skeletons, it's actually a very very hard cartilage.

1021
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 1: And so that's what this is made out of, a

1022
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: hard cartilage left behind their rostrum, which is this like

1023
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 1: long protrusion that looks like a chainsaw with teeth on it.

1024
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 1: Those pointy bits are actually not teeth, their denticles. But

1025
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 1: we talked about that in last week's episode. The nose

1026
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: nose uh nose as in the face nose And yeah,

1027
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: I did some research on these swords. It looks like

1028
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: this particular sword that Neil sent in was made in

1029
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: the late sixteenth century and was never used as an

1030
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: actual weapon, but as like a rich person novelty um.

1031
01:03:55,440 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: But more recently, actually in West Australia, a guy was

1032
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: arrested after being seen brandishing a sword and apparently it

1033
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 1: was handmade out of a sawfish rostrum with a wooden

1034
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: and leather wrapped hilt, and allegedly he attacked a police

1035
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 1: officer with it. But I'm pretty sure Australian police probably

1036
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: just arrested Aquaman, who was trying to save the world

1037
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 1: from some evil octopus, and they're like, all right, all right,

1038
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 1: we're bringing you in. It's like, no, I'm but I

1039
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 1: am saving the world. Listen my Kingdom Undersea. I I

1040
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 1: have the evil doctor Octopus is trying to take over

1041
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 1: the land, and I have come and they just arrest him.

1042
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: And you know what, doctor Octopus and Aquaman villain. I

1043
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 1: thought it was a spider man full of I don't know.

1044
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: I don't know these things. Like I'm sure there's an

1045
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 1: evil I'm sure that that Aquaman who's face like at

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Speaker 1: least sort of a rude octopus, right, Like, maybe not

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Speaker 1: an evil octopus, but just like a squid that's ingdom.

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Speaker 1: Ever once in a while passing just kind of a

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Speaker 1: kind of a sniffett wid you got so tired, you

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Speaker 1: were like, I'm gonna get hard emails about this. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Actually, when you look into the backstory of Aquaman,

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Speaker 1: it makes no sense that he would fight octopuses because

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Speaker 1: his dad wasn't half octopus. Oh man, you're you're bringing

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Speaker 1: him in now. Opened the door that can't be closed.

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Speaker 1: Next week on Fantastical Villains of the Octopus Kingdom. Next week,

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Speaker 1: an apology episode all the Marvel fans. It's just gonna

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Speaker 1: be a notes appology. Look for it on Twitter's Apaman Marvel. No,

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Speaker 1: he's DC, right, YEAHC I'm sorry. Next next week, an

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Speaker 1: apology episode Tall the DC fans. But I think I

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Speaker 1: think we've done it. I think we've looked at animals

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Speaker 1: should be small, but hey, they're big and muscular and

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Speaker 1: they definitely work out at the gym and you should

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Speaker 1: be intimidated by them. Thank you so much for joining me,

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Speaker 1: Bear spelled with quos I M p O s t

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Speaker 1: o R bear. And it's on Twitter, and it's on

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Speaker 1: Instagram and Facebook, and it's a web comic featuring all

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Speaker 1: name wrong. We got it wrong. And if you have

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Speaker 1: a listener email that you want to send in with

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Speaker 1: cool pictures of weird swords made out of dead animals

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Speaker 1: that don't don't kill any animals that will make the weapons,

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. And thank you so much for listening.

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