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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where old balls,

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Speaker 1: new balls, steel balls, cold balls is the new One fish,

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Speaker 1: two fish, redfish, bluefish. Thanks Frankie de la Creta. On

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Speaker 1: today's show, we'll be talking to NWSL reporter Jennet Tanelli

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Speaker 1: about the continued outrage over NWSL Boston's big name reveal,

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Speaker 1: Gotham's Olympic star power, and the growing gap between NWSL clubs.

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Speaker 1: Plus Game three of the WNBA Finals, more fallout from

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Speaker 1: Canada's drone Gate, and an update on an important shot.

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Speaker 1: It's all coming up right after this Welcome back slices.

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Speaker 1: Here's what you need to know today in WNBA Finals News.

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Speaker 1: We're recording this Wednesday while I get ready for the

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Speaker 1: big Women's Sports Foundation gala in New York City. I

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Speaker 1: for Game four tomorrow. For now, congrats to the New

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Speaker 1: York Liberty on their big win Wednesday. How about that

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Speaker 1: In other WNBA news. Ahead of Game three of the Finals,

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Speaker 1: Liberty star Brianna Stewart said that her wife Marta, a

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Speaker 1: following the Liberty's Game one loss against the Links. Per ESPN,

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Speaker 1: Here's what Stuart told the ESPN's Malika Andrews.

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Speaker 2: You know, sometimes people are taking things a little bit

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Speaker 1: It's all just a reminder that the toxicity experienced by

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Speaker 1: players this season isn't just reserved for online harassment Elsewhere

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Speaker 1: in pro hoops news and if yousa call youer and brand,

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Speaker 1: Stewart's Unrivaled League keeps making headlines. The league and TNT

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Speaker 1: Sports have entered a multi year media rights partnership, starting

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Speaker 1: with Unrivaled's inaugural season Live games will air exclusively on

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Speaker 1: and move to True TV on Saturdays. That means more

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Speaker 1: than forty five primetime regular season matchups will be featured

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Speaker 1: so here for It. Unrivaled tips off on January seventeen,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five to the NWSL. Fallout continues after the

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Speaker 1: NWSL Boston team revealed its name Boss Nation in a

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Speaker 1: marketing campaign centered on the idea of too Many Balls,

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Speaker 1: reactions ranging from unimpressed to outraged, the too Many Balls

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Speaker 1: copy for posterity. The campaign was also condemned for being transphobic,

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Speaker 1: including by the Seattle Rains Quinn, who is non binary.

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Speaker 1: The midfielder commented quote feels transphobic Yike's end quote on

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Speaker 1: it is such poor messaging end quote. This is sure

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Speaker 1: interview with Jenna, also an NWSL news The Off Season,

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Speaker 1: We could not be more excited to rot on our

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Speaker 1: premise Heading into the twenty twenty four season, eleven NWSL

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Speaker 3: The gays, oh my gosh, there's so much drama.

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Speaker 1: What if that happens. Honestly, everyone's been very professional that

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Speaker 1: news and you can hear by my tone you can

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Speaker 1: tell what's happening already another retirement. Angel City defender Merrett

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Speaker 1: Matthias announced via Instagram that this NWSL season will be

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Speaker 1: It's time for another edition of No Dumb Questions. Sarah

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Speaker 1: the WNBA season scheduled the way it is. It begins

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Speaker 1: it just tradition and we're not willing to change. First

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Speaker 1: of all, Sarah, no dumb questions. It is such a

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Speaker 1: tight turnaround from the NCAA tourney to the draft to

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Speaker 3: WNBA Finals, but the Pimberwolves moved their game to tonight instead.

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Speaker 3: Timberwolves for being proactive here and making sure that this

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Speaker 1: It's Jenna Toanelly talking NWSL. She covers the NWSL with

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Speaker 1: a focus on Gotham FC and the US women's national team,

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Speaker 1: with bylines and sports illustrated to equalize her esp Nation,

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Speaker 1: the New York Post and more. She's a diehard Buffalo

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Speaker 1: with her to the grave. It's Jenna to Nelly, what's up, Jenna.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much for having me and for that

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Speaker 5: amazing introduction.

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Speaker 1: There is so much to get to today, including the

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Speaker 1: team that you focus on, Gotham FC, and we're going

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Speaker 1: to get to it. But boy, did Boss Nation bump

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Speaker 1: But instead, because in the women's sports world, the rising

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Speaker 1: You know, for Iron just sharpened by having other teams

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Speaker 5: Is just so meh. But there's there's so much time.

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Speaker 1: Sam Ewis tweeted out as a Massachusetts native, I really

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Speaker 1: It will be embarrassing, but far less embarrassing than digging

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Speaker 1: Well, if there's anything Boston can do, it's reach back

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Speaker 5: his league management, it's just leaps and bounds ahead of

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Speaker 5: so many other folks. Uh seb Hines over in Orlando,

432
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Speaker 5: I think has done a fantastic job over there as

433
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Speaker 5: well Washington Spirit bringing over the former Barcelona coach. So

434
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Speaker 5: I really think the difference this year has has been coaching.

435
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Speaker 5: If you look at some of the other teams, you know,

436
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 5: Utah Royals had had some turnover and they're coaching. You know,

437
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 5: some other teams had some kind of newer coaches to

438
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Speaker 5: the league or you know, I hadn't been around before.

439
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 5: So to me, that's the number one difference between those

440
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,919
Speaker 5: top five juggernaut teams is you know, bringing in some

441
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Speaker 5: really talented, you know, big resume coaches that have been

442
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 5: able to put their mark on these teams in a

443
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Speaker 5: unique way.

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Speaker 1: I would even argue, being as biased as I am

445
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Speaker 1: from Chicago, that Louren Donaldson, the job that he's done

446
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 1: in Chicago getting them to be a playoff team despite

447
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 1: a number of factors, is impressive. Eight points separate the

448
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Speaker 1: number one Orlando Pride and the number four k C Current.

449
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Speaker 1: Then there's a ten point drop off to fifth place,

450
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Speaker 1: where the North Carolina Courage are. Do you consider that

451
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Speaker 1: top four tier the true contenders or are there any

452
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Speaker 1: lower seated teams that you could see primed for an upset?

453
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Speaker 5: I mean, the thing, even though the parody has not

454
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Speaker 5: been as it has in the past, and the NWSL

455
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Speaker 5: it's still a league where anything could happen. I mean,

456
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Speaker 5: look at Portland's upset over Orlando, which, to be fair,

457
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 5: Orlando had clinched the shield and you know now they're

458
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Speaker 5: going to do a little bit of rotation and look

459
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Speaker 5: towards the playoffs. But it is still a league where

460
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Speaker 5: anything can happen. And I think your point about Chicago

461
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 5: is actually really important. I was just talking to some

462
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Speaker 5: of my colleagues at Sports Illustrated about Chicago specifically because

463
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Speaker 5: I've been so impressed with that team. A lot of

464
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Speaker 5: people think of that team, They're like, oh, they just

465
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Speaker 5: have mouse wantson and a listena or and that's it,

466
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Speaker 5: But that is so not true. I think Lauren has

467
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 5: done a fantastic job with that team, and it's been

468
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Speaker 5: a team where each individual player has truly stepped up

469
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Speaker 5: at different moments when they're needed and has propelled them

470
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Speaker 5: to a playoff position. So I wouldn't be surprised to

471
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Speaker 5: see a Chicago restoroce or a North Carolina Courage get

472
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Speaker 5: an upset those last two playoff spots. Portland Thorne's of

473
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Speaker 5: as you're in there right now. I don't see those

474
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Speaker 5: two teams upsetting any of the top four, but again

475
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:01,959
Speaker 5: it's it's possible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, last year Gotam one out of the sixth seed,

477
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Speaker 1: the whole thing, so right, you just you just never know. Hey,

478
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Speaker 1: speaking to Gotham, I want to talk about them because

479
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Speaker 1: that's your main beat.

480
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

481
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Speaker 1: Seven Olympians, six of them gold medalists with Team USA.

482
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Speaker 1: How has this Gotham team handled balancing egos and expectations,

483
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Speaker 1: keeping everybody happy, getting everyone in the ball, all the

484
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Speaker 1: usual super team issues. How have they done that this year?

485
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Speaker 5: Gotham has been a team this year that has relied

486
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Speaker 5: extensively on its deep bench. They are playing multiple competitions

487
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 5: regular season. The CONCA calf Women's Championship, they blamed, the

488
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Speaker 5: Challenge Cup. They played in the what's it called the

489
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Speaker 5: Summer Cup with the finals in October, so I always

490
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 5: get I'm like, oh, it's a Summer Cup, but it's

491
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 5: in October. So I think that they had This has

492
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 5: allowed the team to get a lot of people playing time,

493
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Speaker 5: and you've seen a lot of different combinations, especially defensively.

494
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Speaker 5: We've seen a lot of different combinations back there with

495
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Speaker 5: Emily Sonnet Hearna Davidson, Matane Manny Freeman and just you know,

496
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 5: making sure that everybody is on the same page and

497
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Speaker 5: contributing to the team. And something I find very interesting

498
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 5: about Gotham and their style is that they you know,

499
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Speaker 5: you when you watch them on the field, They're rotating

500
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 5: positions quite a lot. You'll see Neilie Martin drop back

501
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 5: and you know, in like a defensive position, or you'll

502
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 5: see you know, Tierna Davis and like push up high centrally,

503
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 5: and it's it's just a team that everybody knows not

504
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 5: only their role, but their teammates roles, so they're able

505
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Speaker 5: to slot in when needed. And that's also been a

506
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Speaker 5: significant boost to Gotham this season, is that they all

507
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Speaker 5: understand what they're supposed to be doing and then they

508
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Speaker 5: execute on it. I also credit Yayali Ever Bush West

509
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 5: and the general manager and Juan Carlos the coach, to

510
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 5: have created an environment where I think a lot of

511
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Speaker 5: these players are really thriving and playing some of their

512
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Speaker 5: best soccer. It's it's been incredible to see. I mean

513
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Speaker 5: I talk the other day, I put out an article

514
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Speaker 5: on my personal substack about Delaney she In. She is

515
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 5: a midfielder who has started all but one game for

516
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Speaker 5: Golf of this season and flies completely under the radar,

517
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Speaker 5: but she's been integral to that team and to that

518
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 5: midfield So I think just giving everybody opportunities and having

519
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,959
Speaker 5: players earn their opportunities and just letting them shine and

520
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 5: be creative on the field. You know this is Roosevelt

521
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 5: has been playing amazing this season, getting a lot of

522
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Speaker 5: club minutes, which you know we don't always see for

523
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 5: Rose Emily Sonnet I think has started every shield missed

524
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 5: one game this season because of yellow card accumulation this weekend.

525
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Speaker 5: But it's just been incredible to see what this team

526
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 5: has done and it's really worked. And people were skeptical

527
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 5: because with the super team, you never know, but it's

528
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 5: really worked.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned a couple of the unsung heroes like Delaney

530
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Speaker 1: she and where can people read about them? You've said

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Speaker 1: you've you've written a bit about them.

532
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so, I recently on my substack Jenna sources linked

533
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,719
Speaker 5: to it in my Twitter bio and Instagram bio, I

534
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 5: did an in depth dive on Delaney Shehan. I also

535
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 5: think that Yasmine Ryan has been an incredible player for

536
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 5: Gotham a winger forward. She's got four goals for assists

537
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 5: on the regular season and that's not even going into

538
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 5: the Summer Cup or the CONCACAF tournament. And I did

539
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 5: a piece on her earlier this year in Hudson River Blue,

540
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 5: which is a local New York City website that covers

541
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 5: primarily NYCFC but also Gotham as well. I think she's

542
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 5: been fantastic. And also Neelie Martin midfielder who anybody who

543
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 5: knows me knows. I'm obsessed with the fact that in

544
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 5: the final last year she had to go into goal

545
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 5: because many Hawk got a red card in the dying

546
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Speaker 5: minutes and that's just my favorite bit of Gotham lore

547
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 5: these days. But she's also just an incredible midfielder and

548
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 5: her positioning on the field and her ability to connect

549
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 5: passes has just been also crucial, crucial, crucial for Gotham

550
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 5: the season.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jennas sources sub stack is where you can

552
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Speaker 1: find that, and she links to it in her Twitter bile,

553
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Speaker 1: which we'll put in our show notes. Last question, quick

554
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Speaker 1: about Gotham clinched the first playoff home game in history.

555
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: What does that mean for this team, especially as they're

556
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 1: trying to win back to back championships.

557
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 5: It means so much. And you know, of course, you

558
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 5: you know, the fans want to see another championship win.

559
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 5: But I think for you know, for me, as somebody

560
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 5: who was a longtime Sky Blue fan started covering the

561
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 5: team then they became Gotham, saw this whole transition from

562
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 5: playing at Rutgers University in New Jersey to playing at

563
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 5: one of the best soccer stadiums in North America. It's

564
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 5: just been incredible to see that growth. And I think

565
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 5: for the players, you know, some of them are newer

566
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 5: to the team, some of them have been there for

567
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 5: a long time. I think Mandy Freeman has been there

568
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 5: since twenty seventeen. I believe she was drafted there, so

569
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 5: has just really you know this, it's just such a

570
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 5: marker of how far this team has come. That in

571
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 5: their entire history, they've never had a home playoff game

572
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 5: and to be able to do that at Red Bull

573
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 5: Arena and have that celebration with the fans and for

574
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 5: the players to have contributed to the growth of this

575
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 5: team is just so important and it just such a

576
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 5: huge mart of how far they've come.

577
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's been a lot of drama in the NWSL

578
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: in recent years, whether it was serious stuff like toxic

579
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: coaching or forced ownership overhauls or lawsuits, to just dramatic

580
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: changes in revenue and investment and ownership groups and kind

581
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: of established some haves or have nots. Gotham is a

582
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: great example of a team that was a have not.

583
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: It was mocked at times in the past in the

584
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: Sky Blue FC years subpar resources and facilities, but they

585
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: underwent a hugely successful rebranding ahem, Boss Nation. They got

586
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: new leadership last year, they became a championship winning team

587
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: on the field. What can other teams in the league

588
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: learn from the sky Blue to Gotham transition.

589
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Speaker 5: I think the thing to me that sticks out the

590
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 5: most is that ownership and the investors and the team

591
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 5: and the ownership put their money where their mouth was.

592
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 5: But more than that is that they brought in a

593
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 5: leader like Yayell to put that vision into place. And

594
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 5: I think and I think it takes both things. It

595
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 5: takes money because clearly, as we've seen with the Boss

596
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 5: Nation money, money isn't always going to get to where

597
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 5: you need to be. But I think it's it's the

598
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 5: investment and the trust and bringing in somebody who who cares,

599
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 5: who knows, And it's in every conversation I've ever had

600
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Speaker 5: with Yayel, you know, we always talk about, well, these

601
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 5: are the things I didn't have when I was a player,

602
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 5: and so what are the things that I know that

603
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,959
Speaker 5: players need to succeed? What do players want? And just

604
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 5: having that lens as a former player to manage this

605
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 5: team I think has been everything. And you know, one

606
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 5: of the things that she said to me was, you know,

607
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 5: players want to be in a place where they're supported

608
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 5: and they can play and be their best sells. Whether

609
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 5: that means they're starting, they're on the bench, their wave, whatever,

610
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 5: it means that they were given the opportunity and they

611
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 5: were given the support that they needed to be at

612
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 5: their best. And I think you really see that with Gotham,

613
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 5: and so I really do credit what Yayelle has been

614
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 5: able to do with this team and the fact that

615
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 5: ownership put their trust and money.

616
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I could not agree more. It is money, of course,

617
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: it is investment, but listening to the right people who

618
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: tell you where to put that money, how to spend it,

619
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Speaker 1: and how to do the things that will matter to

620
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: the athletes that make them want to stay, that make

621
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: them want to play hard, that make them want to

622
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: fight for Your team and your brand is massive, and

623
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Speaker 1: it's been really cool to see that happen for the

624
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: Gotham side and a lesson for a lot of other teams. Jenna,

625
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: thanks so much for the time. We look forward to

626
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: hearing more from you as the season wraps up and

627
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: the playoffs start.

628
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 5: Thank you so much for having me. It's been a pleasure.

629
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Speaker 1: We got to pay the bills when we come back.

630
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Speaker 1: Let's take a trip down memory lane and spin a

631
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: tale about mister Purple Rain. Hey that run. That's next.

632
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Speaker 1: Welcome back Slices. With Games three and four of the

633
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Speaker 1: WNBA Finals in Minneapolis, it felt like a great time

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637
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Speaker 1: the kind of legendary stories that we should all know

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady Hammered throwing the Lombardi Trophy on a boat

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Speaker 1: in the Buck Super Bowl Parade, or the way we

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Speaker 1: can recite Kevin Durant' you the REALVP speech to his mom.

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Speaker 1: We got some catching up to do in women's sports.

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Speaker 1: So grab another plaque and find a good place on

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Speaker 1: Back to twenty eighteen. The Super Bowl was in Minneapolis

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Speaker 1: and Link's legend and four time WNBA champ Lindsay Whalen,

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Speaker 1: of the entire Links team celebrating their twenty fifteen championship

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Speaker 1: win with none other than Minnesota Links superfan Prince. Here's

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Speaker 1: that story I.

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Speaker 4: Want to talk about. Twenty fifteen. You win the WNBA championship.

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Speaker 4: Prince is a huge of the team, comes to your

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Speaker 1: It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: We so we win the championship and it was in

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Speaker 6: Game five against Indiana. You know, tough series, tough season.

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Speaker 1: We win.

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Speaker 6: So the confetti's coming down and we're in the locker

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Speaker 6: going to Paisley Park. You know, Prince is doing a

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Speaker 6: as I walked in. It's just like one of those

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Speaker 6: kind of surreal things that I'll never forget. And then

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Speaker 6: he played well into the night. I think he played

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Speaker 6: till four or five in the morning. At the end

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Speaker 6: of the night, he was riding his bike around in

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Speaker 6: screen behind the stage. Congratuations links twenty fifteen champs.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to think that when you.

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Speaker 4: Guys won the title, he was sitting on the sidelines

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Speaker 4: and he said loudly, game louses.

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Speaker 5: I'd like to.

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Speaker 6: Think that We'll never no I was I was waiting

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Speaker 6: on the pancakes. Yeah, you know, I was waiting on pancakescakes.

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Speaker 1: Rip p. That is a hell of a way to

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Speaker 1: to end our debate jump shot or medical shot? In

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Speaker 5: I was curious, did you mean your jump shot or

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