1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: I Am All in again, I. 2 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: Am All in Town Meeting with Suzanne French and Tara 3 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: suit An iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to another 4 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: episode of I'm All in Town Meeting with myself, Tara 5 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: and Susanne. 6 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 3: Hello. 7 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: Hello, and this is a special episode. It's not our 8 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: usual recap. We've done a couple of special ones, like 9 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: our pale Fest, our Connecticut trip, but this one's kind 10 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 2: of interesting because, uh, we want to continue the conversation 11 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: from Amy and Danielle talking to Donna from Star TV 12 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: because she brought up a really interesting question. Yes, so 13 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: she brought up at the end of their episode, and 14 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: definitely feel free to go back and listen to the 15 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: Gazette Yeah from the other day. So basically what she 16 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: said is, given that Lorelai was so determined to break 17 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: away from her family and create her own path, why 18 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: did she choose to name her daughter after herself and 19 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: her mistakes continuing the family name. And this is basically 20 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 2: what Donna said from Start TV. And before we get 21 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: into it, Suzanne, Yeah, for the fans who are going 22 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 2: to come at us, we know that it's explained in 23 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: the show, right and it was mentioned in season one, 24 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: episode two, the Lorelei's first day at Chelton. So I 25 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 2: just will kind of let you go from here, Suzanne, 26 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,919 Speaker 2: Can you kind of explain, because you meant you actually 27 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: before we jumped on, said that it's mentioned twice in 28 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: the show, right. 29 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: So it's mentioned in two different places, right at the 30 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: very beginning season one episode one, Season one, episode two, 31 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 3: and in the pilot in the scene where Rory meets 32 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: Dean at Childon, she drops her books all over the 33 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 3: floor and they introduce themselves, and she says her name, 34 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: and then she says, it's my mother's name too. She 35 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 3: named me after herself. She was lying in the hospital 36 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 3: thinking about how men name boys after themselves all the time, 37 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 3: you know, so why couldn't women. Her feminism just took over, 38 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 3: although personally, I think a lot of demarol also went 39 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 3: into the decision. So that was from the pilot episode 40 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 3: and then the very next episode, which is where they 41 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: go to Chilton and they're checking in with the secretary 42 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 3: at the desk and Laura's kind of stumbling over her 43 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 3: words a little bit, and she says, Oh, I'm Laura 44 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: like Gilmore. This is my daughter, Laura like Gilmore. I 45 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 3: named her after me I was in the hospital all 46 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 3: whacked out on demarol. And then then she says, but 47 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 3: we call her Rory. It's short for Laura I or 48 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 3: even hey you, So we know right there that it. 49 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 3: The show explains it as like her feminism kind of 50 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 3: took over. But it's an interesting question. Yeah, you know, 51 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 3: Donna had kind of tied it into you know, Connecticut 52 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 3: high society and the expectations of honoring your family, et cetera. 53 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 3: I don't know, I personally, I didn't read that much 54 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 3: into it because she also points out Donna also pointed 55 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 3: out that Laura I was like a sixteen year old 56 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 3: at the time, So a rebellious sixteen year old probably 57 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: is not thinking about, oh, let me honor my family 58 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: with this decision, like she's just gonna blurt something out. 59 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: No, she probably like gave birth and she's like, well, 60 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: I can't think of a name, so I'm gonna name 61 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: her after myself. 62 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: Right, So I think you could. I think you can 63 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: interpret it on multiple levels. 64 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: It's like terrible, terrible comparison. I'm not comparing people to animals, 65 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: but you know, when like a kid names a puppy, right, 66 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 2: you know, it's an interesting name. 67 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it is an interesting thing to think about 68 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 3: because when you think about Richard's mother was also Laurel I, 69 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: and so there was a decision made to name how 70 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 3: do I say, to name the Lauren Graham Laura I 71 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 3: after the Mary and Ross Laurel I. Not to get 72 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: the Laurel lies confused, but like they consciously made a 73 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: decision to name their baby after his mother, which would 74 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 3: have been you know, like, yeah, they were trying to 75 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 3: do that, like they were trying to honor their family, 76 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,679 Speaker 3: whereas the younger Laurel I may not have been thinking 77 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 3: that way. 78 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: At what points did she say, but her nickname's going 79 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: to be Rory. 80 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. That's another question that comes up a lot, is 81 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 3: how do you how did where did Rory come from? 82 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: That's that's the thing is like I wonder if and 83 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 2: tell me if I'm wrong or if you know, people 84 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: we can have a bigger discussion on our Instagram at 85 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: iam all in podcasts if you want to believe a comment, 86 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 2: but was could it also have been like she liked 87 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 2: the name Rory and Rory could be a spin off 88 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: of Laura I. Because of the law Rory I don't know, 89 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: I'm like really stretching it, but yeah, like where did 90 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: Rory come from? 91 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: Right? 92 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 3: And and that's the one thing that is never explained 93 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 3: in the show, Like they don't ever tell us where 94 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 3: Rory came from. And I've seen a lot of people. 95 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 3: There's a lot of different opinions out there. 96 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: You know. 97 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 3: Some people think, well, maybe it came from Rory herself 98 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: couldn't pronounce her own name because they are hard for 99 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 3: little kids to say, and so maybe maybe Rory came 100 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 3: up with Rory. You know, we don't know, so we 101 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 3: could take our imaginations in any direction. We reade that one. 102 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 2: Our producers, Jackie and Emma, grabbed a couple Reddit user 103 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: comments because when in out Reddit has talked about everything 104 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: under the sun. Yes, so I'm going to read a 105 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: couple these are just from anonymous users. Someone said, I 106 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,239 Speaker 2: think the name also emphasizes with the fact that Laura 107 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: la I sometimes views Rory as an extension of herself 108 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: and wanted Rory to do the things she herself never 109 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: got the chance to do, probably a coping mechanism which 110 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: made it easier to give up so much in order 111 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: to raise her daughter all by herself. 112 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 3: I think that makes sense. You know, we've we've talked 113 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: about already how Laurai was so independent and I, you know, 114 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 3: she made the decision to not get married to Christopher 115 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 3: and to do this on her own, and I think 116 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 3: that makes sense to a certain extent, that she she 117 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 3: wants Rory to just be hers. 118 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, here's another one. This one says and here 119 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: I am with the idea for the past upteen years 120 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 2: that Lorelai named her daughter Laurai Ilmore as a sort 121 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 2: of second chance by giving herself a do over, a 122 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: figurative a figurative clean slate, a chance at erasing all 123 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: of her and her parents' mistakes and getting Laura l 124 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: I right the second time around. I kind of thought 125 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: that was the whole point in everything she did in 126 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: raising Rory from the start of the series, which is 127 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: another really interesting point. 128 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: It yeah, it is. But again going back to the 129 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 3: fact that she was sixteen at the time, I don't 130 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 3: know that she was like, she was still so young. 131 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 3: I don't know that she was necessarily thinking of having 132 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 3: a do over at age sixteen. I think that would 133 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 3: have made sense, you know it when we start the 134 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 3: show in her thirties. 135 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: Right, But as a sixteen year old. 136 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: Right right, yeah, but it's a good point that could be. 137 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: Another one said was she high on demarol or did 138 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: she think men name babies after themselves all the time? 139 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: Why can't women? 140 00:07:59,000 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: Right? 141 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 3: Which is which is what she said in that. 142 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: Which is what she says. Yeah, yeah. And then the 143 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: last one we have is I think it would have 144 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: been interesting to see a flashback of her deciding on 145 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: Rory as the nickname. This person's thinking, like I am, 146 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: like when she saw her for the first time or 147 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: did it come later, I don't know, just something I 148 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: wonder about. Yeah, that's where I think I've had this 149 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: thought before, but I just never vocalized it because it 150 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: was just me in my room watching No More Girls. 151 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 2: But like, truly, like I would love if I were 152 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: ever in the presence of Amy Sherman Palladino. That would 153 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: be my next question is why the nickname Rory? Yeah, 154 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: but I feel like then Amy would say something like, well, 155 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 2: it would be really confusing if we had Laura and LOURAI. 156 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, right, but Rory is is like why 157 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 3: not you know Laurie or Laura or you. 158 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 2: Know something, or would have made more sense yeaeah, Like, Rory. 159 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 3: Is a very specific name and there's a lot of 160 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: there's men named Rory. 161 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: So I was about to say I have a friend 162 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 2: named Rory and he is a grown man. 163 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was an unusual choice, and I agree. 164 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 3: I would like to ask Amy, like, how did she 165 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 3: how did she pick that name when she was writing 166 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 3: it all out? 167 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, Well, I guess the conversation can continue. I 168 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: guess we can go back and forth about this a lot. 169 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: I know we would love for people to head to 170 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 2: our Instagram at im all In podcast to comment your 171 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 2: thoughts because we really want to hear your theories, so 172 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: leave it in the comments. Yes, and thanks again to 173 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 2: Donna from Star TV, which is the brand new home 174 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: of Gilmore Girls, for coming up with this question that 175 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 2: kind of then trickled from their podcast episodes to ours. 176 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: And you can catch a show every weekday at five 177 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: pm four Central and again at eleven pm ten Central. 178 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: So go to start tv dot com and see how 179 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: you can watch where you live. 180 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 3: Meeting adjourned. 181 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: Dot dot 182 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: Everybody, and don't forget follow us on Instagram at I 183 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 2: Am all In podcast and email us at Gilmore at 184 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio dot com