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Speaker 1: This is Mick Shots, streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com

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Speaker 3: Have It's a new day, it's a new month, and

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Speaker 3: we are still here in Oxnard, California, at the corner

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Speaker 3: of Ventura and Vineyard. This is micshots. Mick has survived

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Speaker 3: the media party from last night. I'm assuming Nate not attend.

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Speaker 3: I did not attend, uh and we are hydrated up.

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Speaker 3: We've got waters all around.

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Speaker 1: I got you one, You've got your own. We're ready.

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Speaker 3: You're not gonna be ready to attack the controversies of

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Speaker 3: a new day.

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Speaker 2: Mix shots. Yes, sir, it's time to take some shots,

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Speaker 2: some shots.

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Speaker 3: I have a feeling today.

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Speaker 1: You set me up with my first one.

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Speaker 3: Well, well we'll get to that. Okay, We're gonna we're

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Speaker 3: going to uh gradually get into it. Okay, first thing,

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Speaker 3: No practice today. We had two practices the last couple

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Speaker 3: of days. We got another practice tomorrow where I went

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Speaker 3: into the practice every other day mode of this training camp.

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Speaker 3: No practice on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Get somebody else hurt. Just no more practice go home.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: Tyler Smith walked off the field yesterday with Sorene. We're

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Speaker 3: apparently going to have a former cowboy out here on

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Speaker 3: this practice behind us, apparently about that is going to

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Speaker 3: be doing a little try out for the team, and

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Speaker 3: that would be Lyle Collins. Maybe we start there, because

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Speaker 3: my understanding is Mickey Spagnola, your shrewd reporter here, has

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Speaker 3: already had an interfacing with Lyle Collins here at Oxnow.

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Speaker 1: I ran into him in the parking lot. He was

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Speaker 1: walking walking along. He saw me, he goes hey, and

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Speaker 1: so we had a nice little chat. I was told

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Speaker 1: yesterday that that was the when they saw him. It

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Speaker 1: was the best shape they'd seen him in quite some time.

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Speaker 3: That's before he worked out.

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Speaker 1: Before he worked out, and he works out at eleven thirty.

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Speaker 1: So if you need film, film at seven anyway. So

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Speaker 1: I run into him and he big old smile. He

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Speaker 1: looked great. I don't know how tall he is, what

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Speaker 1: do you think six or five maybe somewhere? And I

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Speaker 1: ran into him right because he's.

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Speaker 3: So light right now, right, I bet he wasn't. He's

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Speaker 3: got Zack Martin light? Is he you saw Zach Martin

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Speaker 3: about two months after the season. Oh yeah he was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, I saw him at Tyron Smith's uh Lyle and

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Speaker 1: we talked. I said, what are you doing? He goes,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting in shape. I go, what do you mean?

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Speaker 1: He goes, I still want to play? I said seriously.

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Speaker 1: He goes, yeah. He goes, this is physically the best

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Speaker 1: I have felt in years. He goes, nothing's hurting. Uh

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Speaker 1: So when I saw him, he was in great shape.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what his aerobic deal is,

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Speaker 1: I said, I said, how are you feeling? He goes,

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Speaker 1: the best I've felt. And so we talked and I said, so,

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Speaker 1: And I said, your knees are working because you know,

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Speaker 1: And he goes, I'm good and he took off running. Wow. Right,

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Speaker 1: So and I don't know if that means he's gonna

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Speaker 1: come out here and work out well, but yeah.

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Speaker 3: He took off running just to show you he could run.

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Speaker 1: Oh, he was excited, he was smiling, and you know,

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Speaker 4: He's in a different place mentally now maybe yeah, and

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Speaker 4: a lot of times you maybe it's a resurgence.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just believe this.

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Speaker 4: You know, we've heard a lot of great things about

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Speaker 4: the young guys and about competition, but it still comes

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Speaker 4: it's competitive.

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Speaker 3: I really thirty two years old, Lyle is in fact,

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Speaker 3: he just well, yeah, he just turned thirty two on

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Speaker 3: July twenty six. You know when the last time he.

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Speaker 1: Played in the league was twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 3: Twenty twenty two, it's been three years years. Started fifteen

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Speaker 1: And then the next was it the end of that

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Speaker 1: Right in twenty three, they didn't use him, but then

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Speaker 3: Bills practice squad in twenty four Okay, I need to

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Speaker 3: see how, like how many weeks?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, lasted on it?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: If it was he was signed last year? Okay, he

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Speaker 3: was not on the practice squad last year with the Bills.

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Speaker 3: He was signed in April last year, so it was

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Speaker 3: was released on the final roster cuts in August of

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Speaker 3: last year, so it's not like he's been sitting.

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Speaker 1: On a couch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for three years since he last played in a game,

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Speaker 3: And it was in January of last year when the

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Speaker 3: practice squad he had and that was the first time

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Speaker 3: he was. The previous season in twenty three, he was

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Speaker 3: released on September twelfth, so the first week of the season.

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Speaker 1: So thirty two. How old were you before you?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, mand what was.

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Speaker 1: How old were you your last year you played?

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Speaker 2: You remember for thirty three, thirty four something like that.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, make but I tell like this year

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Speaker 4: think he spent his last couple of years here with

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Speaker 4: let his body go. He didn't take care of this

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Speaker 4: thing was flexibility to these We never questioned his toughness

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Speaker 4: once he got on the field, going at people, being aggressive,

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Speaker 4: all of that was intact. But for some reason he

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Speaker 4: and it seemed like he just lost it all at once.

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Speaker 1: He and he had some injuries, That's what I'm.

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Speaker 4: Saying, the injuries and not coming back. The key to

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Speaker 4: any injury is rehab. The key to any injury, physical

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Speaker 2: And when and and the injury he had, if he

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Speaker 4: The proper rehab, he'd have bounced back one hundred percent

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Speaker 4: even better. But he didn't. And now years later he's

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Speaker 4: figured it out, and maybe we may see a different

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Speaker 4: Liell out here, you know, in practice. I mean he's older,

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Speaker 4: but maybe we'll see.

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Speaker 2: A different guy.

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Speaker 3: Let me uh, let me review all of us, including

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Speaker 3: Nate himself, on Nate Newton's career. Okay, because this has

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Speaker 3: come up a couple of times, I asked him the

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Speaker 3: other day, what hold were you and the Cowboys? So

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Speaker 3: I went ahead, and since you asked it again, Mickey, let's.

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Speaker 1: Let's get some gat clear here.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Nate Newton in nineteen eighty six, you were twenty

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Speaker 3: five years old and you appeared in eleven games for

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys. Yes, you became a starter in nineteen eighty seven,

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Speaker 3: nineteen eighty seven, a starter at age twenty six, eleven starts,

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Speaker 3: and then you became a fifteen and sixteen game starter

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Speaker 3: for the next thirteen years at the Dallas Cowby. Yes,

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Speaker 3: we're talking from nineteen eighty seven at twelve years nineteen

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Speaker 3: eighty seven through nineteen ninety eight.

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Speaker 5: For real, Come on, unless Pro Football Reference as it wrong.

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Speaker 5: So you were age thirty seven, you just asked. You

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Speaker 5: just answered Mickey's question that you've it was. You were

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Speaker 5: thirty three when you were done whatever. You were thirty

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Speaker 5: seven your last year with the Cowboys. You started sixteen

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Speaker 5: games in nineteen ninety eight, and then you were thirty

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Speaker 5: eight when you were with Carolina. So to bring it

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Speaker 5: back to the Lyle Collins.

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Speaker 3: Discussion, Nate and his last year in the NFL were

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Speaker 3: in with Carolina just seven games, thirty eight years old.

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Speaker 3: Lyle Collins just turned thirty two, So it is very

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Speaker 3: possible that Lyle Collins could come out here and be

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Speaker 3: physically healthy.

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Speaker 4: Me, Bill, every time you guys have put that question

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Speaker 4: to me, how, I always say.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I tell people how don't want you to play in

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Speaker 4: the NFLT Well maybe ten eleven years.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It don't matter. You know, I do

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Speaker 2: know this. I got three Super Bowls.

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Speaker 4: I don't go if played with Toy Haley, Michael herbtt

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Speaker 2: I played with a bunch of great players.

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Speaker 3: You know what this reminds me of. This has crossed

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Speaker 3: my mind when you talk with great athletes, you know

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Speaker 3: Like the greatest moment of my athletic career was probably

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Speaker 3: in a high school JV game when at the end

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Speaker 3: two free throws with no time left on mcclarcken force overtime.

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Speaker 3: That was like the greatest moment of my athletic career.

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Speaker 3: And then we're sitting here talking about he can't so

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Speaker 3: I remember that the rest of my life, Okay, and

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Speaker 3: they can't even remember that played until he can't remember

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Speaker 3: the last five years of his career.

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Speaker 2: Wow, man, I played that.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh. He didn't remember anything after the Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: win twenty nine years ago. Basically, that was all you remember.

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Speaker 3: The three super Bowls. That's all that matters, The three

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Speaker 4: Freaking album watching Michael Jackson do a halftime show, the

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Speaker 4: greatest moment of your career.

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Speaker 1: So thirteen years with the Cowboys, twelve.

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Speaker 3: Weel with the cow Uh No. Thirteen with their albums,

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Speaker 3: including nineteen eighty six when he wasn't a starter and

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Speaker 3: he was a special teams.

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Speaker 1: How many four specialty boys did you have?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: No, I was I was a kickoff return, I was apta.

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Speaker 4: You were captain of the wedge redirected if the kick

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Speaker 4: went so far?

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Speaker 2: The hashad Yeah, rank everybody because they had loud his mouth.

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Speaker 1: Glad we got to the bottom of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeh.

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Speaker 1: So so comparatively, Lao Collins is a spring chick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here he is.

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Speaker 4: If he can bend his knees, he can help this team.

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Speaker 4: He can with the competitive nature because he's aggressive. We've

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Speaker 4: never doubted his aggression and is a physical uh proless man.

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Speaker 2: He liked to get out the people.

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Speaker 1: So without Rob Jones, Terrence Steeles the most experienced oldest

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Speaker 1: Well first appearances, it looks good now off the offensive line. Injuries, Uh,

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Speaker 4: Man, Okay, where you left right, he was staring right

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Speaker 2: Heal quicker.

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Speaker 1: What's the most games you missed in a row?

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Speaker 3: Already nineteen ninety two.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we had secured home field advantage, and he say, man, nay.

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Speaker 2: He looked me around.

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Speaker 4: Now he say, you're not losing your job, but I

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Speaker 4: Let him play this one game and next week you

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Speaker 2: Let me say you promised, Coach.

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Speaker 3: Becky, would you like me to answer the Nate question.

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Speaker 3: I'm the authority on Nate history because I got Pro

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Speaker 3: Football Reference right in front of me. Nate missed one

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Speaker 1: Didn't know we were sitting next to an iron man.

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Speaker 4: Brother had enough fat to last.

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Speaker 1: But let's put it in context. This is the guy

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Speaker 2: You know what, I had a great agent, man.

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Speaker 4: I just got off the phone with Jim Nider was

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Speaker 3: There was a long practice yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, punishment, there was punishment if you ran gassers.

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Speaker 9: And that was it.

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Speaker 1: I got nothing else, not no, not really.

444
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Speaker 3: He stayed up all night.

445
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Speaker 1: He just crushed me.

446
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 3: All right, Okay, So was there anything to report from

447
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 3: the media party last night?

448
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jerry, and and and Steven and Jerry Junior got

449
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: up the minute they heard that Michah Parsons was demanding

450
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: a trade and headed out of the party.

451
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Speaker 3: They left, Wow, this is some breaking.

452
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, stay my beating heart, are you kidding me? He's

453
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: demanding a trade?

454
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 3: So they didn't know.

455
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Speaker 1: Oh the party continued, did they say there? They stayed?

456
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 2: Okay?

457
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 3: All right, God, this is such I think Mickey wants

458
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 3: to talk about Micah.

459
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Speaker 1: There's a script here to these things, right, Nate. How

460
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: many headlines are out there today somebody's demanding a trade

461
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin Washington, because the guy in Cincinnati was demanding Hendrickson.

462
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: So there's a script. This is what August first, Yeah,

463
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Speaker 1: August first.

464
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Speaker 3: We are less than five weeks away now from the

465
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Speaker 3: season opener, which means we're still five weeks away from

466
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Speaker 3: the season open.

467
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: So you have a holdout, then you have a hold

468
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: in and nothing's budgeting, and then you're gonna demand a trade.

469
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: And you should have seen the headlines online on all

470
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: these other sites. Bombshell, Micah Parsons none with the Cowboys. Seriously.

471
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: So the agent calls a reporter and says, hey, do

472
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: me a favor, But we're going to ask for a trade,

473
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: or Micah does says it there, and that's just the

474
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 1: script to follow, like they're gonna come running out of

475
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 1: their offices today to his apartment and say, okay, Michael,

476
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: please sit down, let's talk about this. We don't want

477
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: to trade you. They can keep his rights for three years, right,

478
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 1: He's under contract this year. If he doesn't play, he's

479
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: under contract the same contract next year. And if he plays, okay, fine,

480
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: and then you franchise him and then you franchise him again.

481
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: So demanding a trade, who's going to give up two

482
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: first round picks?

483
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 3: Who has two first round picks next year?

484
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: That's right, because I want both of them next year,

485
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: and then pay him what they're demanding in money. It's like, seriously, hey,

486
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: so Cleveland has two.

487
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 3: First producer Supreme says, Cleveland has two first round picks,

488
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 3: So you got one team you can deal with.

489
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm start to the first round picks, right, yes, Nate,

490
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 1: So is there anything.

491
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: Else we can talk about.

492
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: With you?

493
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 2: For the last three years, haven't we not been through this?

494
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 3: See here, here's the other thing that happens with this

495
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 3: is there's one reporter and it's it can be a

496
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 3: very credible reporter. Whatever they report whatever is obvious to

497
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 3: everybody that it's posh whatever, but they report it as

498
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 3: a speculation that this could happen whatever, and then everybody

499
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 3: else picks up on it, and so now it just

500
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 3: blows up when it was actually just essentially the opinion

501
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 3: of sources that a reporter talked to.

502
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: Okay, it's not the opinion. Hey, can you do me

503
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: a favor. You know that we're considering asking.

504
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 3: For a train The team you'll see them next to

505
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 3: the other team with a two first round draft picks

506
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 3: would be the Los Angeles Rams.

507
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 4: So they don't need no more. Oh jeez, they don't

508
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 4: need no more. They got a squad already. They get

509
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 4: Michael Lord Jesus, they gonna be ugly man.

510
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: And they've got cap problems.

511
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: By the way, the thing that you drafted Michael Parsons,

512
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 2: you nurtured him. We as media built him up. So

513
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 2: now this is what it is. Whenever it gets signed,

514
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: it'll get signed. I mean, I don't want to put

515
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: a damp on it.

516
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 4: I know that we our fans love being talked about,

517
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 4: you know, their team being talked about. So y'all, y'all

518
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 4: discuss it. But when Michael signed, he'll sign. If he

519
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 4: don't sign, he'll get twenty four million dollars exactly.

520
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: So this is how wildfire start. They start with a

521
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: brush fire. Diana Rassini, whatever webs or site athletic, I

522
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: wasn't going to either give him that credit. She she writes,

523
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: he's considering asking for a trade, considering. Now, the first

524
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: thing I heard was demanding a trade, right, And it

525
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: was all off a gift he put on, I don't know,

526
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: there's a TikTok or whatever. And it was him and

527
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: him and and and and Trayvon Diggs and it was

528
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: something about the last thing or something like that, like

529
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Speaker 1: he was ready to leave final ride.

530
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's just we need to media.

531
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Speaker 4: He's considering action for a trade. Well, he don't have

532
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 4: to consider it because you already put it out there.

533
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 4: So I mean, and mister Jones loves it, Yeah, he

534
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 4: loves it. It's the New York Yankees deal. All media

535
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 4: bad are good. I mean, I'm on your mind.

536
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: So he loves it.

537
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: That's the last thing tech Shrem taught Jerry Jones. It

538
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: was like good or bad, you're in this in the

539
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: picture all the time, all the time, New York Yankees.

540
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: That's that.

541
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Speaker 3: Okay? Are you done?

542
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

543
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Speaker 3: I am Okay. That was your mix shot for today.

544
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Speaker 1: That's probably too much time we spent on it in

545
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Speaker 1: the first place.

546
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Speaker 3: Okay, got you more up your sleeve? I hope, because

547
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Speaker 3: we got another fifteen minutes to go here. Let's give

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Speaker 3: some training camp observations when we come back here on

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Speaker 3: All right, we got about twelve minutes left. Let's get

593
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Speaker 3: into training camp observations. Let's start with Nate and Nate. Well,

594
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 3: I want your take on what you're seeing out of

595
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 3: seventy one young Nate Thomas, who's lining up with the

596
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 3: first team offense at left tackle.

597
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: He's looking okay for the most part.

598
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 4: He's getting his assignments. What I worry about is when

599
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 4: somebody does make a play on him versus the past,

600
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 4: because that is the big thing. Versus the past. He

601
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 4: have a Tennessee sometime to lean, you know, lean into

602
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 4: a guy shit have put his arms out there.

603
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: And once you lean on any.

604
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 4: Seasoned veteran, any guy that knows how to per once

605
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 4: you lean, no matter where you add in the past rush,

606
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 4: they gonna grab a shoulder and do a quick dip

607
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 4: on you. So he's got to learn to stay back.

608
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 4: You know, he's strong enough, can't nobody. He ain't gonna

609
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 4: run over.

610
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: That ain't happening. So you're strong enough. Make sure your aiming.

611
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 4: Point on your drops are good for his past rush.

612
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 4: Put that big left hand out there and make him

613
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 4: run around you know what.

614
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that twice. Yeah, he was leaning in

615
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: the guy, even to the inside. Yes, sir, it was

616
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,479
Speaker 1: like he was trying to push him into the guard.

617
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't have to do that. He is he

618
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 4: is all man and his strength and his quickness is good.

619
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 4: What you call it working in God. Sam Williams is

620
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 4: working now. Number fifty four. Out of all the defensive players,

621
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 4: he's flashing at me the most, and wow, he just

622
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 4: he flashing Sam, number fifty four, Sam wiediam He is flashing,

623
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 4: but he's giving him. When he's getting beats by Sam,

624
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 4: that's that just quick move. But other than that, he's

625
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 4: on top of it. He's he's been physical. Everybody else

626
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,439
Speaker 4: is not having a lot of success against him. He's

627
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 4: doing a good job so far, so good. Number sixty nine.

628
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 3: On the other side, Johnny Corny he's.

629
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Speaker 4: Doing okay as a second teamer. Austin Richard's doing good

630
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 4: as second team left guard, I mean left top. So

631
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 4: yesterday they put tj Bass in there for to replace

632
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 4: all pro left guard.

633
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 3: So and they moved brock Hoffman over the left yard.

634
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the thing now and so even though the

635
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 4: competition is great, you still need bodies. And this is

636
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 4: where we I'm hoping that Lyell can come in and

637
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 4: give him some type of punch.

638
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Speaker 2: You know, it's just.

639
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Speaker 4: Because it's physical. And I like what coach is saying.

640
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Speaker 4: Coach say, I'm not backing up my practice standards. Is

641
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 4: my practice standards get to get meaner. You know, if

642
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 4: you get bumped, mister day, come back the next day.

643
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 4: So I'm liking what I'm seeing. I mean, better bodies

644
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 4: now than bodies later.

645
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Speaker 1: Well, and and the one thing is though, if you're hurt,

646
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: you got to say something. Yes they Rob Jones did

647
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: not say anything. Yeah, no, he knew.

648
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Speaker 2: But you know what the thing is. You you can

649
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Speaker 2: have a nick pain and you thinking you're working through it, right,

650
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: but then when you settled down and you said, oh

651
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: my god, that when you're in practice and you adrenaline

652
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Speaker 2: going last year.

653
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Speaker 4: He had probably said something within two periods because you

654
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 4: have that space where you were just down this guy.

655
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Speaker 2: Don't give you a chance to think you're on the

656
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: move and you're practicing.

657
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Speaker 4: I remember a lot of times I would come out

658
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Speaker 4: after practicing and I would tell Ji, like jim My

659
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 4: ankle hurt. And then I look on film with somebody

660
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 4: done roll me up. But that the time, I adrenaline

661
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 4: be so high. So you practicing and you going. So

662
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,919
Speaker 4: he was going, he felt the pain.

663
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know, I know.

664
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 2: Once he calmed down right.

665
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: And they finally said something. And then when you find

666
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: out the bone that's broken in your neck is your vertebrae,

667
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: which protects your spinal cord, that's serious stuff.

668
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 4: Well see that's what I'm trying to say. Like we

669
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 4: thought that Guidon had blew his knee. Yeah, you know

670
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 4: we we there's certain things that we we as media

671
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 4: and as human beings. We panic, Oh he's blowing his knee.

672
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 4: And they said, Okay, it's just a break. Ain't a break.

673
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 4: Oh man, he broke a bone in his neck. Hey,

674
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 4: ain't that's terrible too. I mean, he didn't break his neck,

675
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 4: for say, but he broke a bone in it, right,

676
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 4: So it's just how you're looking at it.

677
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: That's That's like when somebody breaks a bone in their

678
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: foot and they say they got a broken foot. Now

679
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: broken the bones so anyway, but yeah, they As a

680
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: matter of fact, the first time I think he walked

681
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: around with a neck brace on, he had a hoodie

682
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: like he didn't want to show, right, he had a

683
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: brace on. Yesterday he walked past us when we were taping,

684
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: and uh, he actually had a smile on us face,

685
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: but he was upset that he got hurt. And I

686
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: could I could understand that.

687
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: Because he believes. This is what I'm praying for Coach Shutenhaimer,

688
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: I really am.

689
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 4: He has guys believing that if you're the best guy

690
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 4: leaving out of this camp, and you're the best guy

691
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 4: leaving uh this training camp and going through preseason, that

692
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 4: you actually have a chance to win a job or

693
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 4: have a lot of playing time. You got guys believe

694
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 4: in that. You see here run in the backs, you

695
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 4: could you know, you don't know who the starter is

696
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 4: gonna be. These backs are running hard. You see Bill

697
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 4: like Marquis Bell came to fill the gap. He hit

698
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 4: a guy boom, not into the ground. Three plays later,

699
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 4: Sam Williams come through, boom knocks a guy to the ground.

700
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 2: If they did that last year, they had to stop practice. Hey, man,

701
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 2: hold on, we are what we're doing. It ain't stopping, bro.

702
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: This thing is banging. Man is banging like you ran in.

703
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: Mollie Cooker thought this was tackle practice the other day

704
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: he was putting guys underground. Now I don't know if

705
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 1: this was a new thing or not, but I noticed

706
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: the guys rehabbing yesterday were in their jerseys and had

707
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: their helmets. Yeah uh, including Trayvon Diggs, who was not

708
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: out there with street clothes, well not street clothes but whatever.

709
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: So he that was the first time I've seen him

710
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: with his jersey on, he had a helmet, and he

711
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: had his football cleats on, so maybe I was thinking

712
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: maybe he getting closer. After afterwards he walked off barefoot. Yes, yeah, absolutely,

713
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: I was thinking, maybe he's getting closer. But then I

714
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 1: recognized that all the other guys had their jerseys on too.

715
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: So to me, from what I've been told, it's almost

716
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: not his knee either. Worried about They're worried about his conditioning.

717
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 2: That is what hurt him last year and talking to

718
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 2: the trainers, they wanted him.

719
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 4: To be in better shape before they released him back

720
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 4: to the field, but he just negotiated, kept talking to

721
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 4: the coaches, kept talking to management, and negotiated his way

722
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 4: back on that field, and they wanted to get him

723
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 4: in better shape and he wasn't and we see residuals

724
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 4: to that.

725
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 2: Now they're asking him the same thing, Let us get

726
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 2: you in shape so you can be the player that

727
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 2: we once saw. Now is he smart enough to protect

728
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: himself from himself or is he gonna be good? You know,

729
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 2: don't don't have that attitude.

730
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 4: Coach Shottenham is trying to teach these guys, trying to

731
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 4: get them to understand this is not only about you

732
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 4: now right, this is about being the best for you

733
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 4: can be within the team concept.

734
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: So some of that's going on with savonn Revel also

735
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: coming back from the a c L talking to him,

736
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,439
Speaker 1: and from what I've been told is the repaired needs

737
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: coming along fine. What he's having problems with is when

738
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: they reconstruct your ACL, they take part of your PTEL

739
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: attendant from their good knee and they use that as

740
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: the repair for the other knee and he he said

741
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: that he was starting to get some ache over there

742
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: like that. He's got to work on that.

743
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: Uh.

744
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: So, while this need is getting better, this one he

745
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 1: doesn't have confidence in. Uh And so that's what's holding

746
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: him up. Because he tore his a c L after

747
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: third game last year in the college season, so that

748
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: would have been the end of September, probably somewhere in September.

749
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: So he's almost, you know, eleven months out rehabbing. But

750
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: I asked him, I said, when do you think you'll

751
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: be ready? Have they given you an idea? He goes,

752
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 1: I'll be ready when Britt tells me I'm ready, And

753
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: so he trusted he got there. And again remember they

754
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: didn't get him into their rehab program until May, right

755
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: was after the draft. Yes, so they haven't had him

756
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: that long. And if we go back to Diggs, this

757
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: was the first week they worked with him on a

758
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: full time basis.

759
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 4: You know, you know, and I know players hear what

760
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 4: we say and stuff like that, And like I tell

761
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 4: people like this right here, I can be critical of

762
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,959
Speaker 4: a player, but I'm giving you from a X player,

763
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 4: a former player, perspective on what is expected as an

764
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 4: elite player. Diggs at one point was considered the elite player,

765
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 4: and I'm not saying he's not one now, but you

766
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 4: haven't seen it lately.

767
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 2: So to get back to that elite status, you take

768
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: them extra steps.

769
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 4: You you have to have some type of relationship with

770
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 4: the training staff because they are the ones that that's

771
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 4: talking to mister Jones, talking to Will McClay saying, this

772
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 4: is where we think he's at, you know, and let's

773
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 4: go with what we think to protect this kid, to

774
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 4: get him in shape and uh and and now you

775
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 4: can be the best you can be. So same with

776
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 4: Parsons coming back, Same with this young man you just

777
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 4: talked about Mick. Trusting these guys because their their job

778
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 4: is to protect you from the team and from yourself.

779
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 4: They they're gonna say no, he's not ready. They're gonna

780
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 4: they're gonna help you. They're not gonna turn on you

781
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 4: because their their their reputations there they're invested in.

782
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, their reputation is at stake.

783
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 4: So trusting these guys and believe that they gonna get

784
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 4: you right if you allow them. Come out here with

785
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 4: enthusiasm to workout, to rehab and to get yourself back

786
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 4: on the field a place so you can show people

787
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 4: that you're worthy of what you're asking.

788
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 3: Give me one player, uh off off the radar player,

789
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 3: someone that maybe a non starter who has caught your eye.

790
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 1: The Cowboys.

791
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 3: I can start if you want.

792
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 1: If you want, I got one. I already got one.

793
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 1: The Cowboys were working Blue yesterday Jaden Blue. Miles Sanders

794
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: did not practice and he got the second team, but

795
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: he was the first one up second team reps. And

796
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,479
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, this kid has got something. There wasn't

797
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: big holes Nate, but he was like slithering through and

798
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 1: because of his speed and acceleration when he hits that hole.

799
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: And I'm talking between the tackles. I'm not talking going outside.

800
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: I'm talking between the tackles. This guy looks like he

801
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: shot out of a canyon. And I'm telling you, they're

802
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: they're looking at this. They're looking at him and Cavante

803
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: Turpin on the field at the same time with the

804
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: two wide receivers. Somebody's gonna get covered with a linebacker

805
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: and it's no match. So, uh, they're throwing the ball

806
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: downfield to Cavante Turpin.

807
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 3: You know like that, you know it's interesting. As I

808
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 3: posed this question, Brian Schottenheimer at the end of the

809
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 3: press conference yesterday, was asked basically the same question, a

810
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 3: list of players who are caught his eye?

811
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: That and he so he ran down a list of.

812
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 3: Players who have had good camps. Whatever, I guarantee you like, Jimmy.

813
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 3: As he looked at his roster and was going down

814
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 3: the players, there are players that he skipped, right, not

815
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 3: publicly want to say that this guy's having a good

816
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 3: camp before strategic reasons when you come down to the

817
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 3: roster decisions at the end where you don't want another

818
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 3: team to pick up on a guy.

819
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: I got another one, but I'm gonna let Nate go.

820
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 2: Six. Tight end Tyler Nabel Neville.

821
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 4: Neville, this dude is blocking folks. If you if you're

822
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 4: looking for a blocker, this dude was jacking folks up. Linebackers,

823
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 4: outside linebackers, inside linebackers, defensive men's his kid blocks with

824
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 4: a vengeance.

825
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: You know what, he's smart. He finished up.

826
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 3: He finished up his collegiate career at Virginia. You know

827
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 3: where he started it? Where graduated from where?

828
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: Harvard?

829
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 2: Wow, Well, I tell you what, he's smart enough to

830
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 2: knock folks out. You got that down. You got a

831
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 2: three point five average. We're knocking folks out.

832
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: Well if I if I remember this correctly, the the

833
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: guarantee they gave him on his rookie for age and

834
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: contract basically assures him off at least being on the

835
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: practice squad and with spain Ford out with the mc

836
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: all I think it was his knee. Uh, just giving

837
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: this kid some reps.

838
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 3: Now him and John Stevens go ahead and uh, the

839
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 3: guy the wide receiver, let us Uh, I know where

840
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 3: you're going. Go number seven. Yes, Trey Shawn Holden.

841
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's had two days of catches, their highlights.

842
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: He looks the part.

843
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 3: I mean, he's got an NFL body and he's made

844
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 3: those catches that you're talking about. I want to watch

845
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 3: him closer. But he's gonna shine in these if he

846
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 3: if the passes are accurate.

847
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point.

848
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 3: He's going to shine in these preseason games. He started

849
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 3: his career at Alabama and then transferred to Oregon. So

850
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 3: he was a top recruit coming out of high school

851
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 3: and he was with Junior Adams, the receivers coach at Oregon.

852
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 3: But that that guy, and I don't know what his

853
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 3: makeup is as far as his special teams being able

854
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 3: to cover kicks. That's going to be a key on

855
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 3: whether he can make this final roster or not.

856
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 4: But he looks the part and the because the Tobers,

857
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 4: they can't catch a pass between them, either one of them,

858
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 4: the Tolberds, the Tolberts, yeah, Jalen h the other one No.

859
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: The Jalens whatever they are whatever, either can catch.

860
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: All right, Okay, waterbacks and running back.

861
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

862
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: Well, all I know is Jalen Brooks and uh for

863
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 1: noy you're on notice because this holding guy has looks

864
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: like the big time notice man.

865
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

866
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 3: Then there's three Jalens. Yeah, Jalen Brooks, Jalen Cropper.

867
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 4: And every one of y'all I own notice because this

868
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 4: kid holding his coming and tight end Jason Ferguson every

869
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:43,439
Speaker 4: day is taking all of y'all passes this and number nine.

870
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 4: So yes, your own notice, like Mickey has a hard

871
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 4: for this kid.

872
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: Uh, parses, I got it for. They are to your

873
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 2: game together. All right.

874
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 3: That does it for mixed shots. We'll all shout at

875
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 3: you again on Tuesday, and Nate will be on a

876
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,720
Speaker 3: variety of shows the rest of the way. In training,

877
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 3: cab Go Cowboys.

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