1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news talk us through the 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: main growth drivers that you see when you take a 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: look over the course of this year. 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, first, Katie, thanks for having us on this morning. 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 2: You know, in terms of the growth drivers, we really 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: think there's two or three major things going on. One, unfortunately, 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: is still all of the chronic care disease management that's 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: occurring in the country. You know, type two diabetes at 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 2: an all time high, autoimmune disorders, cancer rates, younger and 10 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 2: younger patients being diagnosed with cancer, colon cancer in particular. 11 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: So all of this is leading to a lot of 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 2: testing as you can imagine, and helping people diagnose, helping 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 2: people figure out what the right therapy they should select, 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: and then actually monitoring the disease. Now at the other 15 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: end of the spectrum, and this is really a more 16 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: recent phenomenon, is all the new testing from a consumer 17 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: health standpoint, So you know, prevention is all about doing 18 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: something before the symptoms set in, and between our own 19 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 2: consumer health offering and then partnerships that we've developed in 20 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 2: the industry, we are really powering the wellness industry today. 21 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: So our relationships with Function Health, our relationships with WOOP, 22 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 2: with Aura, we're trying to make lab testing ubiquitous to consumers, 23 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 2: especially those that really have a focus on prevention and wellness. 24 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: But really it's those two things, Katie, that are really 25 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 2: driving the growth. 26 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you brought up consumer health and some 27 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: of the partnerships you have Loop and AURA being some 28 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: of them. You also have partnerships with HYMNS and Function Health. 29 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: I see as well. How do you see that part 30 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: of the business evolving. How meaningful of a growth driver 31 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: can that be? 32 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, So to put all of that in context, between 33 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: our own direct business, our own consumer direct business, plus 34 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: our partnerships with all those that you mentioned, it's about 35 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: a two hundred and fifty million dollars segment and you know, 36 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: we did eleven billion dollars last year, so it's meaningful. 37 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: What's more meaningful is that segment grew it over thirty 38 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: percent last year, and we expect it to continue to grow, 39 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: you know, you know, north of twenty percent this year. 40 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: And again, what we're seeing is just consumers taking more 41 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: interest in their health. With this notion of let's prevent disease, 42 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: let's try to get in front of that. You know, 43 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: if we look at our business today, about two thirds 44 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: of it is diagnosis of disease, you know, treatment of disease, 45 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: treatment monitoring, and really only a third of our business 46 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: is prevention and wellness, general health and wellness testing. Honestly, 47 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: I hope over the next day decade we can flip that. 48 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: I really hope that we can be two thirds prevention 49 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 2: and wellness and then a third of chroduct care management. 50 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: When you zoom out a bit, what are you seeing 51 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: in terms of trends when it comes to what types 52 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: of tests are being asked for and ordered. 53 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Alzheimer's Katie is a very very important set of 54 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: tests that we now offer. You know, before blood based 55 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: biomarkers came to fruition with respect to Alzheimer's really the 56 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 2: gold standard where cognitive tests that physicians perform and then 57 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 2: they would move that patient directly into imaging, whether that's 58 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: a pet CT image or an MRI image. And today 59 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: what we're seeing is there's blood based biomarkers for amyloid 60 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 2: pop plaque, for what we call these TAO bundles, and 61 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: you're actually going to detect Alzheimer's at a much earlier 62 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: stage than what you would see in imaging and some 63 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: of the new therapies that have been brought to market 64 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: by Eastside and by Lilly. These therapies generally work really 65 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 2: really well at the earliest stages of disease on set. 66 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: So these biomarkers are playing a very very important role today. 67 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,279 Speaker 2: We position these blood based tests with primary care physicians 68 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: as well as neurologists. You know today, if you have 69 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: symptoms of Alzheimer's it can take upwards of six to 70 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: eight months to get in to see a memory care specialist, 71 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: and patients just don't want to wait that long because again, 72 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 2: there's therapies available if you are diagnosed. 73 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: Because you think about what's going on at some of 74 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: your peer diagnostics companies. Oncology testing has been driving just 75 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: rapid growth. So how does Quest position itself in that space. 76 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: I know that you recently bought Haystack Oncology, for example, 77 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: but is that an area where you would consider additional deals? 78 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, first, Katie, it's a very very important part of 79 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: our business today. Most people don't know, but Quest Diagnostics 80 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: has a very large anatomical pathology business. Anatomical pathology is 81 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 2: when specimens are cut outside cut from the human body. 82 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: They're tissue samples, and so we have a very We 83 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 2: have the largest anatomical pathology business in the country where 84 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: we make diagnoses of cancer every single day. Now, once 85 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 2: you have that tumor specimen, there's several follow on tests 86 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 2: that are very important. The first being what type of 87 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: therapy should be used to treat that cancer after treatment 88 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 2: or potentially right after surgery. The next question is did 89 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: the surgeon get it all or did the chemotherapy eradicate 90 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 2: that disease? And we have a task you mentioned, the 91 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: Haystack minimally residual disease testing that looks for very very 92 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: small remnants of the cancer that may remain either post 93 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: surgery or post chemotherapy. So it's a growing portion of 94 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 2: our portfolio of testing today. Now, in addition, we offer 95 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: a lot of routine cancer tests PSA screening all sorts 96 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: of different types of cancer markers at the screening phase. 97 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: So all told, cancer of our eleven billion dollar portfolio today, 98 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 2: cancer in its entirety is about a billion dollars of 99 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: our portfolio.