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Speaker 2: preseason this is week three.
Speaker 3: This is it.
Speaker 2: This is when cutts start today, all weekend and Monday,
Speaker 2: and Jerry Jones and Michaeh. Parsons agent's agent are kind
Speaker 2: of jabbing each other, going back and forth. Jerry was
Speaker 2: on Michael Irvin's YouTube show and had a couple of
Speaker 2: things to say. So he talks about what he's willing
Speaker 2: to pay Micah and on how Micah's agent has messed
Speaker 2: up the negotiations. Let's start with what Jerry is willing
Speaker 2: to pay MICHAEH.
Speaker 3: Parsons.
Speaker 4: I have agreed to give more money than has ever
Speaker 4: been given in terms of guaranteed money than anyone ever
Speaker 4: has as far as a defensive player. Mike has got
Speaker 4: three years with Cowboys LIT. At some point somebody has
Speaker 4: to have the say over. The other job is managing
Speaker 4: the check. Mike has got to do the play. What
Speaker 4: is the least incremental part of the whole equation the
Speaker 4: attorney or the agent he works for Micah.
Speaker 2: Okay, he tried to backdoor the negotiations by excluding Michael
Speaker 2: Parson's agent and going to Micah. You're not allowed to
Speaker 2: do that, and he admitted doing that. Whereas years ago
Speaker 2: he would go to the agents and then he would negotiate.
Speaker 2: Now he wants to take the agents out. He wants
Speaker 2: to talk to the player. Here is Jerry Jones talking
Speaker 2: about Michael Parsons agent screwing things up.
Speaker 4: We wanted to send the details to the agent. The
Speaker 4: agent soldiers to Bepper asked. Mike and I talked, and
Speaker 4: then we were going to send it over to the
Speaker 4: agent and we had our agreements on term amun guarantees, everything.
Speaker 4: We were going to send it over to the agent,
Speaker 4: and the agent said, don't bother because we've got all
Speaker 4: that to negotiate. Well, we've got this theory resolved in
Speaker 4: my mind for the dollars cowboys, and we've got it done.
Speaker 4: And if the agent wants to finish up the detail,
Speaker 4: which is should and we're ready to go. But as
Speaker 4: far as the amount of money, the years, the guarantees,
Speaker 4: all of that, we negotiate.
Speaker 2: Okay, can we go back to the beginning of that,
Speaker 2: because did we bleep out.
Speaker 3: The wrong thing?
Speaker 2: Did weep? We bleep out stick instead of ass? Okay, Marvin,
Speaker 2: can you just play the beginning.
Speaker 4: We wanted to send the details to the agent. The
Speaker 4: agent solders, ass.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: It makes it sound like he said something really bad
Speaker 2: leading up to bleep up your ants.
Speaker 3: That's hilarious, Marvin. Did you do the bleeping here?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: I had to touch this, okay, shifted play it one
Speaker 3: more time.
Speaker 4: We wanted to send the details to the agent. The
Speaker 4: agent sodas as.
Speaker 3: Okay, Paulie, you're the executive producer, right.
Speaker 5: I think that the back room was trying to downplay
Speaker 5: the act of the phrase by getting rid of the
Speaker 5: word stick and the word ass really is not a
Speaker 5: big deal on national radio. I think that's what they
Speaker 5: were doing. Stick isn't either, right, but they by getting
Speaker 5: rid of the word stick, you kind of dumbed down
Speaker 5: the action that's being described by.
Speaker 2: Well now, I really you know, I was like, wait
Speaker 2: a minute, what did he say? And then I soul
Speaker 2: it was written out and it said, you know, stick
Speaker 2: it up, you know my ass?
Speaker 3: And I'm thinking, we just bleeped out stick. Yeah.
Speaker 6: See, it's like pixelating someone's belly button and not their genitals.
Speaker 3: That's essentially what we just did.
Speaker 5: Which we may have done.
Speaker 2: This is why we don't win a sports him. You know,
Speaker 2: this is why Paulie's going and checking with the back
Speaker 2: room guys. Uh oh, there's going to be bleep to pay.
Speaker 2: Paulie's going to tell them to bleep it up their ass.
Speaker 2: What's the poll question today?
Speaker 3: I wonder if we actually did that in house or not.
Speaker 2: Uh I hope I did it come likestgation.
Speaker 3: The motto of our news team.
Speaker 1: Is if good journalism is wrong, well then we don't
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Speaker 3: Let's go to the newsroom.
Speaker 5: We're calling it as Kate dan uh. The IT team
Speaker 5: just went back and the entire BRG conglomerate, all of
Speaker 5: them said, we had nothing to do with that. We
Speaker 5: didn't edit it, tweet do anything to it. Marvin said
Speaker 5: he did not edit it. So it may have come
Speaker 5: to us in that fashion.
Speaker 3: Marvin, that's exactly how it came to us. Okay, on
Speaker 3: my son's oh you don't yeah your bleep, I.
Speaker 7: Swear I bleep.
Speaker 3: Where did it come from that piece of sound? It
Speaker 3: came from bleep.
Speaker 8: No, it came from all like iHeart sends us okay
Speaker 8: sound every single day.
Speaker 3: So that's where I got it from. And so and
Speaker 3: it was funnier this way, was it not?
Speaker 5: Fairpoint?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm listening to it and I'm not even hearing
Speaker 2: the rest of what Jerry's saying. I'm only hearing about
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, what did we just bleep out? If
Speaker 2: we didn't bleep out a us Okay, we're just getting
Speaker 2: started here.
Speaker 3: Whole question today.
Speaker 9: I just want to roll with this. I listened to them.
Speaker 9: They told us to bleep it up our Here's one
Speaker 9: from Paul who had the wonkiest career. What might I
Speaker 9: also say made perhaps the choppiest career. Oh that's Polway's
Speaker 9: great description.
Speaker 3: Love it. Steve Young, Kurt Warner, Nick Foles.
Speaker 5: Other Okay, this is based on.
Speaker 3: This an interesting list, Yeah, really is.
Speaker 5: It's based on Steve Young's career. Steve Young was a
Speaker 5: first ballot Hall of Fame quarterback without making a Pro
Speaker 5: Bowl or All Pro before the age of thirty. Including
Speaker 5: the age of thirty. He did all his work from
Speaker 5: thirty one to thirty seven. That is as unique as
Speaker 5: it gets in sports. We're actually looking for a comp
Speaker 5: Nick Foles. Nick Foles made a Pro Bowl at age
Speaker 5: twenty four. He had twenty seven touchdowns and two picks
Speaker 5: for Philly with the Chip Kelly era. Then he bounced
Speaker 5: around the league five different teams, and then he was
Speaker 5: a Super Bowl MVP against Tom Brady. That's his career,
Speaker 5: two things. And then Kurt Warner it takes a while
Speaker 5: getting the league, starts at age twenty seven, becomes an
Speaker 5: MVP and wins to Super Bowl. The Rams bounces around
Speaker 5: injury to the hand and then he takes the Arizona
Speaker 5: Cardinals close to a Super Bowl victory. Most Wonkee.
Speaker 2: Well, we saw Kurt Warner do something incredible with the
Speaker 2: Greatest Show on Turf, and then he was a backup
Speaker 2: to Eli and then to take the Cardinals to the
Speaker 2: super Bowl. I mean, that's a big turnaround for somebody
Speaker 2: that we thought his career was over. I don't know
Speaker 2: if we expected anything out of Nick Foles. He had
Speaker 2: the one year with Chip Kelly and that was a
Speaker 2: great year, but then do you go from that to
Speaker 2: being the Super Bowl MVP. Steve Young had a lot
Speaker 2: of talent. He was in the USFL. I think one
Speaker 2: of the great athletes we've had at that position. But
Speaker 2: thirty years of age, thirty one years of age to
Speaker 2: become a Pro Bowl quarterback, that's pretty remarkable. I don't
Speaker 2: know has anybody ever gone into the Hall of Fame
Speaker 2: not making a Pro Bowl or an All Pro before
Speaker 2: they were thirty one years of age, And unless it's
Speaker 2: a kicker, I don't know if there's anybody else that
Speaker 2: would have followed that formula.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul, we're looking it up.
Speaker 5: Because most guys do most of their damage from age
Speaker 5: twenty five to thirty Pro Bowls All Pros and their resume.
Speaker 5: The one that I thought might be in there would
Speaker 5: be Roger Staubach at the Cowboys, because I don't think
Speaker 5: he started playing to age twenty seven and he didn't
Speaker 5: really get the starting job. I just looked it up.
Speaker 5: Roger Stauback's first Pro Bowl, All Pro. He was twenty
Speaker 5: nine years old, his first year as the full time
Speaker 5: starter with the Cowboys, and then from age thirty three
Speaker 5: to thirty seven he was a Pro Bowl every year.
Speaker 3: He's close.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good comp because Roger was splitting time
Speaker 2: with Craig Morton wrecked and you wonder Roger Stallback and
Speaker 2: Steve Young were similar. They were really athletic quarterbacks, one
Speaker 2: right handed, one left handed. Roger had the military commitment
Speaker 2: at Navy and Steve bounced around, played in the USFL.
Speaker 2: He was with Tampa. But the fact that the Niners
Speaker 2: trade for him and he sits for four years, four
Speaker 2: years behind Joe Montana. You wonder what he would have
Speaker 2: been like if he was playing at twenty four twenty five.
Speaker 2: And you wonder with Roger Staubach, if he started playing,
Speaker 2: what if Steve Young does not get traded to the Niners.
Speaker 2: What if Joe Montana doesn't get traded to the Kansas
Speaker 2: City Chiefs.
Speaker 7: Wow?
Speaker 2: You know, the sports is filled with these kind of
Speaker 2: stories like if that doesn't happen, then that doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: But we'll talk to Steve Young a little bit later
Speaker 2: on and Mark Schlereth will join us coming up the
Speaker 2: NFL on Fox. Annaly's former Denver Bronco offensive lineman. What
Speaker 2: other pole question are we entertaining today, Seaton?
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're running with that one hour one. We're also
Speaker 6: going to put up a second pole question. Is a
Speaker 6: better word to describe their career as wonky or choppy?
Speaker 3: That that is part due? Okay, Paulie loves him some chopping.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it might be choppy because Nick Foles early greatness,
Speaker 5: late greatness, Kurt Warner early greatness, late greatness.
Speaker 3: They're all interesting people in their own right. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2: Would you rather have Steve Young's career or John Fogerty, Oh,
Speaker 2: that old question. I'm gonna have to take John Fogerty.
Speaker 2: He's eighty and he's still playing, and he's in a
Speaker 2: few he's in a few Hall of Fames, he's in
Speaker 2: the Songwriting Hall of Fame, He's in the Rock and
Speaker 2: Roll Hall of Fame, and now his baseball bat shape,
Speaker 2: guitar and the song center field going into the Baseball
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, Yes, Martin.
Speaker 3: But I'm sure Steve Young's in a few hall of
Speaker 3: Fames himself.
Speaker 2: Okay, Greenwich, Okay, mister forty nine er defender here, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 3: Saying it because he's my favorite quarterback ever. I just yes,
Speaker 3: Paulie Dan.
Speaker 5: You're gonna love this. We're gonna do the quick Steve
Speaker 5: Young game if you have time for it.
Speaker 3: Sure.
Speaker 5: Other than Steve Young, there's only one other quarterback who
Speaker 5: didn't make a Pro Bowl till after the age thirty
Speaker 5: and got into the Hall of Fame, modern era, modern era, eighties,
Speaker 5: nineties guy. And remember, there's a reason he wasn't in
Speaker 5: the NFL early in his career. Wasn't even in the NFL.
Speaker 5: There's the hint, So.
Speaker 3: Jim Kelly, Nope, but that's a good guess. Warren Moon.
Speaker 5: Warn Moon is correct.
Speaker 3: Warren Moon.
Speaker 5: He played seven years in Canada. He joined Houston but
Speaker 5: didn't make the Houston Oilers. He didn't make a Pro
Speaker 5: Bowl till age thirty two and then made nine straight.
Speaker 3: All right, let's take a break.
Speaker 2: We settle on our poll question and I believe phone
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Speaker 2: well to meet Friday. Morale is extremely high. Well, let
Speaker 2: me check in with Todd.
Speaker 3: Morale is extremely high. Good. You feel good? I feel
Speaker 3: great great? All right, well then I do too, because
Speaker 3: I live vicariously through you.
Speaker 5: That's very kind.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: By the way, I'll give you my review of the
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboy documentary on Netflix.
Speaker 3: I'll have that for you coming up as well.
Speaker 2: Take a break. We'll come back with Mark Schlareth of Fox,
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Speaker 12: Jarnie Fellas, how are you great?
Speaker 4: Good?
Speaker 8: Hey?
Speaker 12: I just wanted to confirm and and and vouch for
Speaker 12: your back row guys. That clip from Jerry Jones I
Speaker 12: heard yesterday here in Las Vegas yesterday at around three
Speaker 12: thirty in the afternoon, and they believed out the same phrase.
Speaker 12: And I was wondering what was so offensive with stick?
Speaker 12: But I can vouce for your boys. You're stilling the
Speaker 12: money for an SB.
Speaker 3: Thank you an s B. I take S too. I
Speaker 3: got a better chance of winning an Academy award. Eric
Speaker 3: and La Hi, Eric, TP, what's up?
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm doubling down on the i TM investigation report
Speaker 13: here on our stick bleeping Okay, so I had a
Speaker 13: lot of windshield time yesterday. You guys are on AM
Speaker 13: five seventy and SoCal, A bunch of the other national
Speaker 13: broadcast folks were laughing about the same thing. Why did
Speaker 13: we blue out stick? I'm listening to Jason Smith and
Speaker 13: harmon yesterday evening. They're laughing about it. In real time.
Speaker 13: They bring on the kid I'm going to forget his name,
Speaker 13: but the kid who was doing editing for Cabino and
Speaker 13: Rich figured out that the act itself is.
Speaker 14: What is going to be questionable for the commons legal folks.
Speaker 14: So they went ahead and went with stick instead of acts.
Speaker 3: And there we have it.
Speaker 2: All right, thank you, thank you. We have reporters part
Speaker 2: of our IT team all over the world. Here, Marvin,
Speaker 2: play that you know once again for context. Before we
Speaker 2: get to Mark Schlare, here's Jerry Jones.
Speaker 4: We wanted to send the details to the agent. The
Speaker 4: agent soldiers as.
Speaker 3: The best.
Speaker 2: We make the smooth segue to Mark schlarev NFL on
Speaker 2: Fox Analyst, three times Super Bowl champ working with Renegade
Speaker 2: Fantasy follow that stink.
Speaker 15: Yeah, well, you know what, I can't follow that, but
Speaker 15: stink is appropriate for uh for that comment. So we're
Speaker 15: good by the way your sp comment, happy grabbing up.
Speaker 15: I can't wait to see you get an Academy award.
Speaker 7: It's gonna be awesome. dB.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when does the Michael Parsons situation get your full attention?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 7: When he starts missing games?
Speaker 15: Okay, I mean this is this is so standard for
Speaker 15: Jerry Jones, the standard operating procedure when it comes to MICHAELH. Parsons,
Speaker 15: because you wait till last second to get your quarterback done,
Speaker 15: Dak Prescott, you wait till last second to get to
Speaker 15: get your wide receiver done and.
Speaker 7: So ceedee lamb.
Speaker 15: So the bottom line is this is the way they
Speaker 15: operate as a business. But this is also the reason
Speaker 15: that things have gone awry. Why you haven't won a
Speaker 15: divisional playoff round game since nineteen ninety five, Because if
Speaker 15: you do it to these guys, it creates a locker
Speaker 15: room full in my opinion, of independent contractors, you're like,
Speaker 15: if you're gonna take your stars and you're gonna rake
Speaker 15: them over the cools and you're gonna essentially, you know,
Speaker 15: give out some fake money contraction report that Dak Prescott
Speaker 15: is the highest gonna be the highest paid guy in
Speaker 15: the history of football, and you know some of the
Speaker 15: details in there are faulty, and he turns it down.
Speaker 15: Will you turn your fan base against your players? Your
Speaker 15: players look.
Speaker 7: At the management and say, what are we doing here?
Speaker 15: You knew that Michael Parsons Dan was a You knew
Speaker 15: he was a bona fide superstar from his rookie year.
Speaker 15: And the fact that you wait and you wait and
Speaker 15: you wait, it keeps you out of free agency. It
Speaker 15: keeps you out of doing the things that you need
Speaker 15: to do as a football franchise to have a legitimate chance,
Speaker 15: in my opinion, to win a championship. And so it's
Speaker 15: just the Dallas Cowboy way. I said it on my podcast,
Speaker 15: The Stink of Truth podcast. They are the Jacksonville Jaguars
Speaker 15: with better marketing. That's what the Dallas Cowboys are.
Speaker 2: If Jerryott actually relinquished the GM job, would they have
Speaker 2: been better? Would they have competed for champions would they
Speaker 2: have won championships in the last thirty years?
Speaker 15: Yeah, because I think they have. I think they've done
Speaker 15: a great job drafting. I think they are a really good,
Speaker 15: you know, really good football team. But there's more to
Speaker 15: it than that, Like when when your owner is the
Speaker 15: guy that's circumventing the authority of the coach or the
Speaker 15: people that are in place. Eventually that comes back to
Speaker 15: bitsha and ultimately for them, it's bitting them in the
Speaker 15: playoffs and those things. You know, it's hard to quantify
Speaker 15: and it's hard to put number on it, but I'm
Speaker 15: just telling you, when you have a backstaircase to the
Speaker 15: owner's office and if you don't like something going on
Speaker 15: within the organization as a player, you can go up
Speaker 15: there and talk to him about it, that is a
Speaker 15: That is not the way the structure is supposed to
Speaker 15: happen in an NFL franchise, and eventually it bites you.
Speaker 2: I always wonder about these holdout or hold ins and
Speaker 2: how that affects the locker room because to me, if
Speaker 2: I'm a Cowboy fan, I think this is going to
Speaker 2: get done. But what is the leftover acrimony? If there is,
Speaker 2: they're going to agree to a deal. He'll get forty
Speaker 2: five million, they'll hug laugh press conference, he'll be ready
Speaker 2: to go against the Eagles opening night. But I just
Speaker 2: don't know if there's spillover, and you know, as long
Speaker 2: as you played, and granted it's a different NFL now,
Speaker 2: but does it bleed into the locker room and if so,
Speaker 2: what does it do?
Speaker 15: Yeah, I just think that to win, to have a
Speaker 15: championship kind of caliber organization, you don't have the right
Speaker 15: culture to have that. And we talk about that all
Speaker 15: the time, but it's real right to have the kind
Speaker 15: of Hey, we're gonna sacrifice for each other, we're gonna
Speaker 15: play for one another, we're gonna do those things when
Speaker 15: there's some acrimony within that locker room. And ultimately you're right,
Speaker 15: you know, they'll agree to terms, they'll shake it out,
Speaker 15: they'll hug, everybody be happy. But inside that locker room, man,
Speaker 15: you kind of pick sides and ultimately, as a player,
Speaker 15: and you know, I'm never I was never a superstar.
Speaker 15: You know, I'm not one of those guys that you
Speaker 15: know that commands that kind of attention. But you got
Speaker 15: to remember that there's probably only three or four of
Speaker 15: those guys on each team. You know, the other fifty
Speaker 15: guys forty nine guys are me And you start looking
Speaker 15: at it from the standpoint of, hey, man, if they're
Speaker 15: going to do it to the superstar that's done everything
Speaker 15: the right way, the guy that came in here from
Speaker 15: the rookie year on and has played multiple positions, played inside,
Speaker 15: played outside, We've moved him around and he has just
Speaker 15: thrived and he is and he has created opportunity for
Speaker 15: us as a defense, and he's done everything the right way.
Speaker 15: And you're gonna kind of rake him over the coals
Speaker 15: or you're gonna make you You're gonna slow play this
Speaker 15: thing with him. Then what's gonna happen when I'm a
Speaker 15: free agent, What's gonna happen when I need a new contract?
Speaker 7: What's gonna happen to us?
Speaker 15: And I just think it creates animosity between, you know,
Speaker 15: the locker room downstairs and the front office upstairs, and
Speaker 15: that's a bad way to have a franchise like to
Speaker 15: be able to compete in this league.
Speaker 2: We're talking to Mark Schlareth NFL on Fox Analyst. I'm
Speaker 2: looking at the hold out with Cincinnati with Trey Hendricks
Speaker 2: and Terry McLaurin with Washington. Which one will have a
Speaker 2: bigger impact if they're not ready to go week one.
Speaker 15: I think the McLaurin McLaurin is just a guy that's
Speaker 15: gonna get twelve hundred yards regardless of who the quarterback is.
Speaker 15: And it's funny when you do Washington games. You know,
Speaker 15: when you travel around and to do a Washington game,
Speaker 15: you talk to other defensive coordinators around the league. The
Speaker 15: number one priority, nine times out of ten is how
Speaker 15: are we going to shut that guy down? How were we
Speaker 15: going to slow McLaurin down. And so he's not only
Speaker 15: that guy for Washington, but he's also that dude that
Speaker 15: when you talk to him and he just lights up
Speaker 15: a room.
Speaker 7: You know the old saying of there's two types of.
Speaker 15: People in the world, those who light up a room
Speaker 15: when they go walk into it and those who light
Speaker 15: up a room when they walk out of it. He
Speaker 15: lights up the room when he walks into it, right.
Speaker 15: He is just a guy that brings energy, brings excitement,
Speaker 15: a guy that's super respected within that locker room and
Speaker 15: within that community. So that guy, to me makes a
Speaker 15: huge difference. Listen, Trey Hendrickson is a phenomenal football player.
Speaker 15: Love watching him play, But in Cincinnati, the one thing
Speaker 15: they want to do is they want to sit back
Speaker 15: and shotgun and throw the football, and like the way
Speaker 15: they are built, the way they are constructed, they're going
Speaker 15: to try to outscore people.
Speaker 7: That's what they did last year.
Speaker 15: Their offensive coordinator came out this offseason said, Hey, we
Speaker 15: just got to outscore people, and I thought to myself,
Speaker 15: how'd that work for you last year. It's the dumbest
Speaker 15: thing I've ever heard, because the way they're constructed, they're
Speaker 15: not a playoff team. They're wasting Joe Burrow because they
Speaker 15: they basically make him play the entirety of four quarters
Speaker 15: on a high dive, and ultimately, that's a recipe for disaster,
Speaker 15: and you got to take that guy off the high
Speaker 15: dive occasionally. You've got to give him opportunities just to
Speaker 15: take a breather, and they never do. It's all on
Speaker 15: Joe Burrow twenty four to seven in Cincinnati. So whether
Speaker 15: they sign Hendrickson or not, that's not going to change
Speaker 15: the philosophy of how they play.
Speaker 2: I'm always curious how you know former players analysts read
Speaker 2: what a rookie quarterback does in the preseason, because this
Speaker 2: is what I hear, Well, it's preseason, or hey did
Speaker 2: you see.
Speaker 3: Jackson Dart light it up?
Speaker 2: And then I go, well, wait a minute, it's just
Speaker 2: pre season, Like when does it matter? And when does
Speaker 2: it not matter? With Shador Sanders look really good, Jackson
Speaker 2: Dart has looked really good. I you know, Jalen Milrow,
Speaker 2: I don't know what is real and not real, So
Speaker 2: help me out.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that. I think that.
Speaker 15: You know, I always say this, and I think I
Speaker 15: probably stole it from John Lynch. But the preseason doesn't count.
Speaker 15: But it does matter. It matters how you play, It
Speaker 15: matters the attitude you have, It matters how you go
Speaker 15: out there and execute. And so ultimately, the preseason is
Speaker 15: the base of what you do. So if you're talking
Speaker 15: about the structure of an offense, for instance, here is
Speaker 15: what we are.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 15: As you get into the season, you build on that base, correct,
Speaker 15: Like you add plays that go with certain plays, right,
Speaker 15: you have adjunct plays based on what the defense does.
Speaker 7: So you're adding to that playbook.
Speaker 15: But the base of what you're going to do is
Speaker 15: what you execute in preseason. And if you're good at
Speaker 15: that stuff, I mean, I want back to back championships.
Speaker 15: In Denver, we ran six plays.
Speaker 7: Now we did it.
Speaker 15: Add a lot of different formations, a lot of personnel groupings, and.
Speaker 7: All that stuff.
Speaker 15: So that requires the quarterback to have more on his
Speaker 15: plate and you know, to orchestrate the motions and the
Speaker 15: shifts and all that stuff. But the bottom line, you're
Speaker 15: good at your base stuff, everything builds off of that.
Speaker 15: And so for Jackson Dart or Shadure Sanders, if you
Speaker 15: can execute the base stuff, well, if we're really good.
Speaker 7: At that, you know, it's like the ten thousand hour rule.
Speaker 15: It's we've done this as an offense ten thousand times.
Speaker 7: You've defended a one hundred times. We're better than you
Speaker 7: and we know it, and.
Speaker 15: We're just gonna go out and now execute you. You
Speaker 15: can have success as a rookie. Now, if you have
Speaker 15: to trick everything up Dan because you're not very good
Speaker 15: and you have to outscheme people.
Speaker 7: Well then you fall into trouble. Right. That's when when
Speaker 7: you can't just line up and.
Speaker 15: Say, man, we're really good at these five things and
Speaker 15: we can execute these five things and build off of those.
Speaker 7: Well, if you can't do that, then you're going to
Speaker 7: be in trouble.
Speaker 15: But if your rookie quarterback can execute those things, I
Speaker 15: think you're all right.
Speaker 7: I think you can move forward.
Speaker 2: Mark Celera joining us on behalf of Renegade Fantasy, the
Speaker 2: first fantasy game app allowing you to actually substitute in
Speaker 2: game if your player's not playing well or he gets injured.
Speaker 2: I got the details, right, Yeah, yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 15: They say, hey, listen, man, if you're a victim, right,
Speaker 15: don't play this game, right. If you want to blame
Speaker 15: somebody else, If you want to blame the running back
Speaker 15: for not having a great game, you know, and you
Speaker 15: want to have an excuse for not winning your fantasy league,
Speaker 15: and this is not the league for you. But if
Speaker 15: you're a responsibility taker, right and you say, hey, my
Speaker 15: running back is sucking hind you know what, we're going
Speaker 15: to move on from him, and we're gonna bench him
Speaker 15: in the first.
Speaker 7: Quarter and bring somebody else on.
Speaker 15: Or your quarterback gets injured on the fourth play of
Speaker 15: the game, like having to Aaron Rodgers a couple of
Speaker 15: years ago. Well yeah, you bring your backup in You
Speaker 15: still have an opportunity to win your league, great cash prizes.
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Speaker 7: Can go head to head.
Speaker 2: You blocked for Trell Davis. He rushed for two thousand
Speaker 2: yards and you won the Super Bowl that year, correct, Yes,
Speaker 2: And I'm curious if you compared that season to what
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley did last season with the Eagles, who had
Speaker 2: a best season.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, Saquon was absolutely amazing. The Philadelphia Eagles,
Speaker 15: like just from top to bottom, their roster is just
Speaker 15: ridiculously good. So yeah, I just think that one of
Speaker 15: the things that has happened here in the recent years,
Speaker 15: and this business and the business of football is so cyclical.
Speaker 15: I think one of the things that's really been interesting
Speaker 15: to me is watch the resurgence of the running game
Speaker 15: and how much people are putting, the importance people are
Speaker 15: putting into that, and it's really it's really interesting to
Speaker 15: watch how offenses have kind of looked at what defenses
Speaker 15: have done to them. So this got to be such
Speaker 15: a passing league, Dan, and such small people that you know,
Speaker 15: in my day, everybody was you know, linebackers are two
Speaker 15: hundred and fifty pounds, right, and they're taking on guards
Speaker 15: and stuff. Now everybody's two fifteen, two twenty. They can
Speaker 15: run like the wins sideline to sideline. They got to cover,
Speaker 15: and offenses have just said, well, let's just play Smash Bob,
Speaker 15: Like I had this rule when I was playing. If
Speaker 15: a fight breaks out and it comes between the little
Speaker 15: guy and the big guy punched the little guy, they
Speaker 15: go down a lot faster, right, So if you can
Speaker 15: get a three hundred and thirty pound guard on a
Speaker 15: two hundred and fifteen pound linebacker, let's go.
Speaker 7: Or the fullbacks, like.
Speaker 15: How many fullbacks do you see in the league right
Speaker 15: now that are close to three hundred pounds that played
Speaker 15: detackle in college, Like it's the way it's going right now.
Speaker 15: I've been watching a bunch of preseason I'm watching fullbacks.
Speaker 15: They're my favorite players. I watching fullbacks like Ricard and
Speaker 15: this Oots kid in Seattle out of Alabama and he's
Speaker 15: just shortened necks out there, and I'm like, this is awesome.
Speaker 15: I love this style of football.
Speaker 7: I'm in Yeah.
Speaker 2: I years ago I kept say saying, somebody is going
Speaker 2: to be counterintuitive and they're going to run the ball
Speaker 2: because everybody was really uh lean. It was all about quickness,
Speaker 2: about getting to the quarterback. And I thought, if somebody
Speaker 2: gets a running game, it's almost like Whitey Herzog with
Speaker 2: his Cardinals in Saint Louis years ago. All they did
Speaker 2: is run. Yeah, and I still think you could do
Speaker 2: that in baseball where you had speed. Everybody's got power,
Speaker 2: but you have speed just to be different than somebody else.
Speaker 2: And now you're kind of seeing a renaissance, which I
Speaker 2: think is great for the game. I think it's great
Speaker 2: that you have these these running backs who are you
Speaker 2: know not you know, we basically kind of stripped them
Speaker 2: down and said, uh yeah, go out there, maybe past
Speaker 2: block and run out for some you know, pass catches.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's I love it. I love it as well.
Speaker 15: The other thing, you know, you get into is so
Speaker 15: there's so much side to side speed and these linebackers,
Speaker 15: like I mentioned two fifteen, two twenty, but can run
Speaker 15: like the wind, and they get advantages when you run
Speaker 15: the ball outside or you flip it out there in
Speaker 15: a screen game and all that stuff because they can
Speaker 15: just run and go tackle and hit people.
Speaker 7: So one of the things, you know, the.
Speaker 15: Thought process is, all right, well, if they've got the
Speaker 15: advantage of going side to side, let's slow them down
Speaker 15: and let's not let them move. So let's attack straight
Speaker 15: downhill with a tight zone or an ISO play, and
Speaker 15: let's put you know, Bob our back on your backer
Speaker 15: like our full back at three hundred pounds on your
Speaker 15: two hundred fifteen pounds linebacker, and let's make them stop
Speaker 15: their feet. Let's take the advantage of speed away from
Speaker 15: the defense, and let's just go after them.
Speaker 7: And you've seen a lot of that, man, I love watching.
Speaker 15: Obviously, it's a little bit different in Baltimore because you
Speaker 15: got to throw in Lamar Jackson into the mix with
Speaker 15: his ability to run. But I love that style of football.
Speaker 15: I'd love what they're doing in the run game right now.
Speaker 15: And you know, it reminds me of nineties football, which
Speaker 15: I'm all about.
Speaker 3: Meanest defensive lineman you blocked or tried.
Speaker 7: To, the meanest guy.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 15: John Randall was nasty. I mean, the guy Warren Sapp
Speaker 15: was nasty. But the guy that really, like myself and
Speaker 15: I think everybody was scared of, was uh, Lawrence Taylor.
Speaker 15: I mean, you know, he played linebacker quote unquote, but dude,
Speaker 15: you would break the huddle, man, and.
Speaker 7: You'd peak because you didn't want to look right.
Speaker 15: You'd peak, you'd had countercalled and you just kind of
Speaker 15: peeked down there and he's frothing at the bit and
Speaker 15: he like and you're just like, man, I gotta go
Speaker 15: trap this guy, and I know this is gonna hurt
Speaker 15: me a lot more than it's gonna hurt him. And
Speaker 15: you just didn't want to give him a hint. But
Speaker 15: he knew, and he just had that ability as soon
Speaker 15: as you come screaming down the line of a scrimmage
Speaker 15: man to sink his hips and lower his shoulder and
Speaker 15: then just explode into you. You knew maybe just like,
Speaker 15: oh man, he dog cussed me a couple of times
Speaker 15: and game and I thought for sure he's gonna kill me.
Speaker 15: Like I just was like, oh my gosh, may't cut
Speaker 15: him one time or something.
Speaker 7: They're like, if you ever do that again, you.
Speaker 15: Know You're like, yes, sir, mister Taylor, I won't never
Speaker 15: do it again.
Speaker 7: I promise. Uh.
Speaker 15: Yeah he was. He was frightening. What unbelievable, change the game,
Speaker 15: change the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was the first edge rusher. When you think
Speaker 2: we didn't call him an edge rusher. It was just
Speaker 2: a linebacker who was fast. And then Derek Brooks No, no,
Speaker 2: who was uh uh Derek Thomas.
Speaker 15: Derek Thomas Yeah, yeah, played that played that kind of edge. Yeah,
Speaker 15: we counted him as a big I tell you. The
Speaker 15: other thing we did with Lawrence is what I was
Speaker 15: just talking to you about. He couldn't run away from him.
Speaker 15: He chased everything down. So we just ran at him
Speaker 15: at all times and made him stop his feet. And
Speaker 15: that wasn't very successful either to him. But it was
Speaker 15: like the the lesson the.
Speaker 3: Lesser veteroth world.
Speaker 15: Yeah, we're gonna get her ass kicked either way, but
Speaker 15: we might will get her ass kicked.
Speaker 2: To the point, I remember an offensive coordinator saying that
Speaker 2: the best way to go after Alan Page of the
Speaker 2: Purple People leaders the Minnesota Vikings, was to go at him.
Speaker 2: And you know, I was trying to wrap my head
Speaker 2: around that logic that here's their best player Hall of famer,
Speaker 2: and he said, you must take away his legs, so
Speaker 2: go at him so you know where he is instead
Speaker 2: of he's going to eventually catch up to you.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I thought it was a brilliant approach. He said it
Speaker 2: wasn't always successful, but at least we knew Alan Page
Speaker 2: wasn't going to track down a running back.
Speaker 3: And it's the same with lt.
Speaker 15: Yeah, for sure. There's a couple of guys that we
Speaker 15: did that with. I tell you, you know, for the
Speaker 15: rap that Bill Belichick gets for, you know, being a
Speaker 15: curmudgeon and all that stuff.
Speaker 7: Man I did.
Speaker 15: I did a New England game a couple of years
Speaker 15: ago and sat down with Bill and we made our
Speaker 15: introductor and introductions around the table, and then he just
Speaker 15: looked at me and he goes, We've had some freaking battles,
Speaker 15: haven't we. And then we talked about Redskins giants back
Speaker 15: in the late eighties, early nineties, and we probably talked
Speaker 15: for thirty minutes. Had nothing to do with the game
Speaker 15: I was calling, just about that time and game planning,
Speaker 15: and it was.
Speaker 7: It was one of the coolest conversations I've ever had.
Speaker 2: Mark Schlareth Renegade Fantasy, the first fantasy game app that
Speaker 2: allows you to substitute in game if your player gets
Speaker 2: injured or you just don't like the way he's planned.
Speaker 2: Great to catch up with you again, Mark, Thanks for
Speaker 2: joining us.
Speaker 7: You gotta Dan, take care, buddy. Always good to be
Speaker 7: with you.
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Speaker 18: But I was, I was.
Speaker 16: I was surfing the old air Quotes cable the other
Speaker 16: night and I stumbled across across the show called bye bye, Barry.
Speaker 16: What a fantastic job done by all and I had
Speaker 16: no idea you were in it DP, which was awesome.
Speaker 16: I mean, that was great and just reminded me of
Speaker 16: what could have been and how much talent the Lions
Speaker 16: just totally mishandled.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've known Barry a long long time his junior
Speaker 2: year at Oklahoma State Aiden in Utah. Hi, Aidan, what's
Speaker 2: on your mind?
Speaker 18: Hey, big man, good mon. I'm coming to you for
Speaker 18: some life advice on all of your wisdom. This weekend,
Speaker 18: I am going to propose to my girlfriend of four years,
Speaker 18: and I want any and all advice from you and
Speaker 18: all the Dennets.
Speaker 3: What is your plan?
Speaker 18: So I have told her we are having a family
Speaker 18: dinner up the mountain, which is something we usually do,
Speaker 18: so it shouldn't be she shouldn't suspect it, you know.
Speaker 18: And then I have a I have it set up.
Speaker 18: There'll be a sign there, I'll tuck away in from trees.
Speaker 18: I'll have a photographer hidden away and I'll just walk
Speaker 18: around the corner and I shall see it and it
Speaker 18: should hopefully be a complete surprise.
Speaker 8: Okay, Yes, Todd one thing that comes to mind for
Speaker 8: me because I don't have that because I propose the
Speaker 8: JFK airport and I can never go back to that
Speaker 8: exact spot.
Speaker 3: Is wherever spot he picks.
Speaker 8: Make sure it's a spot that in the future that
Speaker 8: you could always go back to that exact spot. Assume
Speaker 8: you're just gonna say yes so that that a spot
Speaker 8: will always be. Then you'll be able to find it
Speaker 8: and go romantically down thereat to SEB and we.
Speaker 2: Just couldn't go back to baggage claim a JFK with
Speaker 2: all the construction.
Speaker 8: I have no idea where that spot is anymore. But
Speaker 8: all I know is I wish I had done it.
Speaker 8: I had to do it because I was. We were
Speaker 8: flying out for a surprise trip to Miami after I propose,
Speaker 8: But I wish there was a spot where you can
Speaker 8: go to the exact place you got on the knee,
Speaker 8: which I can't serve.
Speaker 6: You'll only go to JFK if you absolutely have to
Speaker 6: go there, that is true. Never never visit for fun.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, make sure you got to play aid.
Speaker 5: I would say this if your family is going to
Speaker 5: be involved or there during the questioning, do it fast
Speaker 5: so nobody spoils it like I'm family member, walks in,
Speaker 5: sees the girl and says, howd go pull the trigger
Speaker 5: real quick?
Speaker 3: Yeah? See yeah.
Speaker 6: I think the longer you wait, the more nervous you're
Speaker 6: going to be. So just get in there. Like PAULI said, Also,
Speaker 6: in case you're thinking of being funny, you're not as
Speaker 6: funny as you think you are. I know that I
Speaker 6: don't know you, Aiden, but trust me, you're not as
Speaker 6: funny as you think you are.
Speaker 3: Don't try to make this funny. Just do it from
Speaker 3: the heart.
Speaker 2: Good luck, Aiden, we'd like to know about it next week.
Speaker 2: Perry and Charlotte Hi, Perry.
Speaker 19: Hey Dan, First Time, Long Time, five ten seventy on
Speaker 19: a good day, quick story, and then a question on
Speaker 19: promotion relegation college football. I was in the Bahamas a
Speaker 19: couple of months back for a wedding and we were
Speaker 19: we were taking the rental card to a boat day
Speaker 19: an hour of the island. We were trying to find
Speaker 19: some music to listen to on the radio. Scan the
Speaker 19: radio all I can find our fantash speaking stations until
Speaker 19: what do U stumble into the Dan Patrick Show. I
Speaker 19: know you joke about having strong followings and you know,
Speaker 19: random staves like Stockholm in Tokyo, but I can confirm
Speaker 19: you are accessible in that small island of a Luthra
Speaker 19: in the Bahamas.
Speaker 3: Awesome.
Speaker 19: Yeah, call back to a conversation just kind of the
Speaker 19: past couple of months with promotion relegation college football. What
Speaker 19: makes pro row works so well in European soccers. You know,
Speaker 19: they have a balanced schedule. They play home and aways
Speaker 19: with every team in the league. They play thirty eight
Speaker 19: game seasons. No team can say they played, you know,
Speaker 19: a tougher schedule than the other due to the league.
Speaker 2: Oh it's Stanholt seaton'll talk. Let's just bring that one
Speaker 2: back yet seat and we'll talk to you. Ed Werder,
Speaker 2: covering the Cowboys, joins us in about twenty minutes from now.