1 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: What's that at the bed? It's spooky, Hey Jukie, I'm 2 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way. 3 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I ghosted. 4 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: I los Nandaz Please hey boo. It's me Ross and 5 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:36,319 Speaker 1: welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I 6 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: talk to people that I like about the paranormal. 7 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 3: Ooh. 8 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: This week I get to talk to the hilarious comedian 9 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: and writer Rachel Pigram. Before we get to that conversation, 10 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: I do have a ghost story for you. This one 11 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: was emailed to me at Ghosted by Roz at gmail 12 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: dot com by Chelsea, who writes I was born and 13 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: raised and still live in the Bible Belt, and as 14 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: a result, I've been around some pretty spooky, diehard religious 15 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: folks who fully believe in angels and demons. My sister 16 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: and I have had random people in church as a 17 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: kid come up to us and tell us that we 18 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: can see into the spiritual realm. This really scared the 19 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: shit out of us and we honestly wanted no part 20 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: of it. However, scary things had a tendency to follow 21 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: us around. My mom, sister, and I were pretty nomadic 22 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: and moved around a lot so we only lived in 23 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: this rented house for maybe a year or so. It 24 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: is the only house we lived in. Everywhere else were apartments, 25 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: so we were excited. However, I immediately felt a scary presence. 26 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: I was terrified to go anywhere by myself in the house. 27 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: My sister was two. We were attached at the hip, 28 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: even going to the bathroom together. I hated going to 29 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: my mom's bedroom, in particular because every time I walked 30 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: in there, I thought of the word beheaded. Oh God. 31 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: My sister also had repeated sightings of an old woman 32 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: with black holes for eyes, standing over our bed and 33 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: staring at her. One time, when I got out of 34 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: the shower, I was feeling particularly brave that day and 35 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: didn't force my sister to wait in the bathroom or 36 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 1: outside the door. I walked through the hallway to the bedroom. 37 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: When I opened the door, a robed figure stood in 38 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: the corner of the room. I froze, and then this 39 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: woman glided towards me at a super fast speed. I 40 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: dropped my towel and ran screaming through the hallway to 41 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: my mom and sister, who were in the hitchen. I 42 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: wasn't dreaming or under the influence of any kind. I 43 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: saw her very clearly. And finally, one day during the summer, 44 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: while my mom was at work, my sister and I 45 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: were hanging in the living room like we normally would. 46 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 1: We then started hearing loud banging and thuds coming from 47 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: the backyard. We opened the blinds of the patio door 48 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: and the backyard was literally black full of crows. The 49 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: crows were slamming themselves into our house and our windows. 50 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: We both just stood there in silence and shot. Eventually, 51 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: it stopped, and we both just sort of walked back 52 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: to the living room and sat in silence for a while. 53 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: We then got our wits back and called our mom, 54 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: freaking out. But when we walked back to the patio 55 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: door as we were talking on the phone, there was 56 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: nothing there, no signs of crows flying or dead crows 57 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: on the ground. It makes absolutely no sense, but it 58 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: was terrifying. Finally, as we were moving out, a neighbor 59 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: told us that the previous owner of the house, who 60 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: was an old woman, had died alone in that house. 61 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: That would have been nice to know, Chelse, Chelsea, that's 62 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: too scary. No, I love it, It's really good, but 63 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: oh my god, that's one of the scarier ones I've 64 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: heard in a minute. Thank you so much for sending that, 65 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: and anyone listening, please send in your stories. I love 66 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: reading these. Please keep them coming. Okay, let's get to 67 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: my conversation with the hilarious Rachel pegrim On with the show. 68 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: Hi Rachel, Hi, welcome to my spooky world. 69 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: Oh my god, thank you for having me. 70 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm so happy that you're here. You're 71 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: such a funny comedian. 72 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: Oh my god, thank you. 73 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: So are you? We have so much a comment. Do you? 74 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: Are you somebody that thinks about the paranormal, the supernatural, 75 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: the other side? 76 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yes. Why you know? 77 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: I feel I feel like it's ever present in some ways, 78 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 3: like an energy in a space to. 79 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: Me, like, oh, you're walking in somewhere. Something's up, something's 80 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: happened here. 81 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 3: You know, something's going on in this space. I, for one, 82 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 3: don't have the gift of being able to say. 83 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: Oh, I can feel it. I don't know what it is. 84 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 2: I just can feel something's off. 85 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: Yes, I always think about like would you enter like 86 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: a break room or like a green room or something 87 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: you're like somebody here? 88 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: Yes, used to. 89 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: Date somebody and I could tell that it's a weird 90 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: somethings weird in this room. 91 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 92 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: I think that stand up comedians have to have that, 93 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: whether they think they do or not. Like you have 94 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: to know how to read a room. 95 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 3: You would think you will hope, you know what I mean, 96 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:09,799 Speaker 3: you were really hope. 97 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 2: There are some people I would say that's not in 98 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: their wheelhouse. 99 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: Right exactly, but I think it's It's definitely an important 100 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: skill just to pick up on those vibes. 101 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: Now. 102 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: It definitely helps because you can hear them laugh so 103 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: that you know, if I need should I keep doing? 104 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: You know, if I say something a little dirty, I'm like, okay, 105 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: they liked that, now I can. The worst is when 106 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: you're like, oh fuck, I had twenty minutes about that 107 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: nasty thing, and now I can't do any of it. 108 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: I once, when I was in New Zealand, I did 109 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 3: a show. 110 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: Okay international, you know, just a little, a little here, 111 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: a little there. 112 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 3: I was in New Zealand and I was doing more 113 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: characters at the time. For whatever reason, I was like, 114 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do all my characters. Why I had stand 115 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: up but I was just like, I'll do all my characters. 116 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 3: So I go out there. I start with a character 117 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 3: and then I'm sort of realizing how deeply American the 118 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 3: character is and that they won't get it. But I'm 119 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 3: sort of in like, like in a mode, and I 120 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 3: won't stop. And it's I've never, not before that, and 121 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 3: not since, have I ever done a show where it 122 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 3: was so. 123 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: Just silent, just held silence, just no one getting it. No, 124 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: Everyone's like, what's going on? Where did she come from? 125 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 3: It's actually one of the few shows my mom has 126 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 3: ever seen me do, because we were on the trip together. 127 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 2: I'm sure she thinks, what is this girl doing? Why 128 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: she's sticking with it? 129 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 3: But yet I power through, did the full set and 130 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 3: absolutely bombed. 131 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: When I got to. 132 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 3: The airport though, to leave for the trip, somebody comes 133 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 3: up to me, I loved that set you did, I said, 134 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 3: you did. You didn't make a peep. 135 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: I know people did her all the time, and it's like, 136 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: the very least you could have done is express that 137 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: with your vocal cords or your hands, please. I had 138 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: that happened to me the last time I was in 139 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: New York. It wasn't quite as bad, but I started 140 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: talking about drive Through, and then I was like, why 141 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: is everyone so quiet, and then I realized they don't 142 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: have drive throughs in New York City. Yes, idiot. Yeah. 143 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: Do you believe in ghosts? 144 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? 145 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: Okay, have you ever seen one? 146 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: Never seen? Never. I never tried to track down, never 147 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: tried to, never try. 148 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 3: To be involved. It's like, I just I respect what 149 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 3: it is that they're doing, but I don't know that 150 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 3: I want any involvement. 151 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 2: Yeah no, but I believe in it, and I believe 152 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 2: in them. 153 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: It's almost like the ultimate boredom or I don't know, privilege. 154 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what it is to be like, well, 155 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: everything's okay over here, I'm gonna go fuck up the 156 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: other side. Yeah, let me go on over there and 157 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: ruffle some feathers. 158 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 3: I you know, it's like, uh, you don't want to 159 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 3: be forgotten. 160 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you just want to get in there. You want 161 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: to keep doing stuff, You want to keep messing around. 162 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 2: It's nice. 163 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: Have you ever been to a psychic? 164 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: Uh no, Taro, but not a psychic? 165 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: Okay, why not a psychic? 166 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. 167 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: I can give you a reading. Yeah, did you have 168 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: a grandmother? 169 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 170 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, see this is how they I've seen so 171 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: many that start like that do you have a grandmother? 172 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 2: Also, the way you're looking. 173 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: Did you. That's part of it is you have to 174 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: really make it seem like, yeah, getting a vibe, getting 175 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: a vibe that you had a grandmother no longer with us. 176 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: I'm seeing white hair. Oh uh huh, oh my god, 177 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: was she a woman? 178 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 2: Stop? I start crying. No, stop, stop, stops. I'm just 179 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 2: too close. 180 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: You know what. I'm obsessed with always but lately. Okay, 181 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: So I bought this book. I was in Austin, Texas 182 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: last week, and I was going antique shopping, sweating my 183 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: ass off, absolutely horrible. However, still had to go to 184 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: the antique stores and I find this book called Bizarre 185 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: Phenomenal right up my alley. It's from nineteen ninety two 186 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: Reader's Digest book, lots of pictures, and so I've been 187 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: rifling through this thing and there's all these little blurbs 188 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: and there was this one that was a synchronicity story, 189 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: and so I want to share this synchronousy because it's 190 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: so fascinating. It was just a little blurb. So then 191 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: I went in research and I found Ripley's Believe It 192 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: or Not had a thing about it. So you know, 193 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: this story is the real deal. So this is from 194 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: Ripley's dot com and it's the story of the Jim Twins. 195 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: Jay I am oh oh okay. 196 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: The Jim Twins. Okay. So they were separated at birth, 197 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: they were identical twins. At age thirty nine, they reunite 198 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 1: now it says, okay. Both men were named Jim by 199 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: their adopted parents, which is already like that's one of 200 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: those things you go, oh, that's cool, that's crazy. Oh wow, yeah, honey, 201 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: buckle up. They both grew up about forty miles apart 202 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: from each other. One of the boys was adopted by 203 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: a family, the Lewis', and then another one the Springers. 204 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: So it was Jim Lewis and Jim Springer. And they 205 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: both knew, like, we have a kid that was a 206 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: twin whatever, but they they didn't really know what happened 207 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: to the other twin. So they both had childhood dogs 208 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: named Toy. As school children, they had a proclivity for 209 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: math and woodworking, but they were no great shakes at spelling. 210 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: If their childhood were uncannily similar, though, then their adulthoods 211 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 1: were remarkable. So both Jim's married twice. The first time 212 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: they married a woman named Linda. When they divorced, they 213 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: went on to both marry a woman named Betty. Two 214 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: different Betty's, two different Linda's. Jim Lewis and Jim Springer 215 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: both had a son, same name, James Allen. They named 216 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: their son though I will say the one was a 217 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: l An the other is a l l An. But 218 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: still they both were heavy smokers. They both drove the 219 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: same kind of car, which was a Chevrolet. They had 220 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: similar jobs, working in secure. It says they took vacations 221 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: at the same Florida beach. Neither man knew any of 222 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: these facts about each other until when they were thirty seven, 223 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: Jim Lewis decided to get in contact with this twin. 224 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: This is in nineteen seventy seven. They meet each other 225 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: and it's just like, wait, my wife's name was Betty 226 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: or like what like so wild because that's the thing, 227 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: Like there's a couple of things where you're like, Okay, 228 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: you both smoke and you drink a lot. Like I 229 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: can see where maybe there's some kind of genetic thing 230 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: like I don't know, but like you both had a 231 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: son you name the sun the same thing. Yeah, you 232 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: both had a dog named toy when you were growing. 233 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 2: What that's that's twin connection. 234 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: That is something so strange to me that, I mean, 235 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: that's all that the paranormal is is like things science 236 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: can't explain, and that to me, it just blows my mind. 237 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: And it's real. 238 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: But aren't there like in distances were twins. 239 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 3: They're like they're connected, not like voodoo, but you know, 240 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 3: like one gets hurt and the other one kind of 241 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 3: feels it right, you know, Like. 242 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: I have asked every twin I've ever met. I've had 243 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: a couple of one person twin, like I've had the 244 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: half on the show, and they all say, no, well. 245 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 3: I have a twin friend and she I'm actually friends 246 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 3: with both of the twins. 247 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: But they they I feel. 248 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 3: Like they say stories of like you know, little things, 249 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 3: not crazy stuff, but just like you know, sensing oh 250 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 3: something was maybe off with that. 251 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: One totally, and I know it's real. It's just the twins. 252 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: I know, they don't they're. 253 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 2: Not tapped in. I know, if you're tapped in like 254 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: Jim and Jim, you could be living the same life. 255 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: That is so crazy. I can't even begin to comprehend 256 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: any of this. So they were studied by a scientist, 257 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: of course, doctor Thomas Bouchard. 258 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 2: Damn they couldn't get a gym. Would have been. 259 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: Nice, they would have so Thomas Bouchard of the University 260 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: of Minnesota, who found that their medical histories and their 261 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: brain wave tests were almost identical, so were the results 262 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: in personality test. 263 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 2: But see, I also feel like. 264 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: Some some of the stuff, I bet you. It's that 265 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: thing where you're like, because they're strangers kind of, they 266 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: just meet and then they're like. 267 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: Oh my god, we have that in common. We have 268 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: that in common. 269 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: And then they're like, what's your favorite movie, and it's like, 270 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: my favorite movie is like Stuart Little And then he's 271 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: like me too, like yeah. 272 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 273 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 3: You just start feeling in the gaps because you want 274 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 3: to be the same. It's like, well, I guess I 275 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 3: like to do her a little little bit. 276 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: That's my new favorite. 277 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 3: Well. 278 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: Also, you said they live forty miles away from each other. 279 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: This it's actually not that far. 280 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 3: So there's a lot of similarities in what they could 281 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 3: have grown up with because of like town whatever, like 282 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 3: city they were in. It's like they're right around the 283 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 3: corner from each other, right, that is true. 284 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: Now, this is the worst question as an interviewer that 285 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: I constantly ask people to do on the spot. Can 286 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: you think of anything in your life that's like synchronostic, synchronicities, 287 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: weird things that are you know what A lot of 288 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: people say, coincidence? 289 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: Uh huh. 290 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: There's also a belief that coincidences are not real, right. 291 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to put you on this. 292 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: Money, No, No, I love me give me out their coach. 293 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 3: I like the thing that keeps coming to my mind, 294 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 3: and I'm like, what that doesn't that doesn't feel like 295 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 3: the very kind of thing. 296 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: No, that's not like a It's okay, No, I don't know. 297 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: You know, I'll think on it. 298 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: Let me think about you worry as we do that. 299 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: Let me tell you another one that I just learned. Okay, 300 00:16:55,600 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: did you know that Abraham Lincoln suck uh huh almost 301 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: died in a train accident, but he was saved by 302 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: John Wilkes Boot's brother. Huh No, so apparently John Wilkes Booth. 303 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: His brother was a famous actor named Edwin Booth, and 304 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: then Robert Todd. Lincoln was leaning up against a train 305 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: one day, which is not don't do that. 306 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 2: That's insane behavior. 307 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: That is some NEPO baby never had to work. 308 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 2: No, exactly. I didn't think it was gonna move. 309 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 3: What. 310 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, you need to get out in the real world 311 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: way more. Robert Todd Lincoln. So he's leaning up against 312 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: it and then apparently Edwin Booth grabs him by the collar, 313 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 1: which this sounds like one of these stories where it's like, 314 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: what this. I don't think that's how what really happened? 315 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 1: But whatever is what they say. And then he's like, 316 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: oh my god, you're Edwin the after from the movies 317 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: or from the stage. Your Edwin Booths. That's crazy because 318 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: my dad's famous too. My dad's Abraham Lincoln. You got 319 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: the five? You have any five dollar bells? 320 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: Here? 321 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: Can I get somebody? Give me a five? And then 322 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: I can show you that to my dad. And then 323 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: crazy story. I don't know if you know this part 324 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 1: Edwin Booth's brother. 325 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 2: No, no, no, actually, keep going. I don't know if 326 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: I remember. No, keep going, Thank. 327 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: You, Edwin Booth. The famous actors. 328 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 2: Right who I know? 329 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: His brother stop was at a theater. Oh were Robert 330 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: Todd Lincoln's dad. 331 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 3: Oh was also at Okay getting the band back together 332 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 3: in a way. 333 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: Which is like small town, which Okay, that's another part 334 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: of this because I already know how you your mind works, 335 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: because you're the one that threw out. Oh those two twins, 336 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: they only live forty miles away, so it's not that exciting. 337 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: Well these people. 338 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 3: Okay, we need to play that back because I don't know. 339 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: That's what I sounded like. Let's play that back. 340 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: Came to fight. So Robert Todd Lincoln was traveling via 341 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: train from New York to Washington, and this was in 342 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: a Jersey City, New Jersey train stop where he decided 343 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: to lean against a train. 344 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 3: Girl insane to lean against a train? 345 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, never never had that? Have I had that impulse? 346 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: Never? 347 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 2: Weren't they scared of trains back then? 348 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: You would think, you know, the movie. 349 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 3: One of those first movies was The Train Coming Out. 350 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 3: It wasn't out, you know what, it wasn't out. They 351 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 3: were They weren't. 352 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: Thinking like that changed every Yeah, they were like, I'm scared. 353 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: That's what Edwin Booth said, this is scary. Yeah, I 354 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: have an idea for a pilot. He said, I have 355 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: a script I could write. 356 00:19:58,359 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 2: I have a storist. 357 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then someone else did it and stole it 358 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: from him. 359 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 3: Tails all this time. You can't tell everyone your ideas exactly. 360 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 3: So that's that story, which is wild. 361 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 2: No, that's incredible. 362 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: Oh, in case anyone doesn't know, so, Edwin Booth's brother 363 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: shot Abraham Lincoln juniors. What's his name, Robert Robert Todd, 364 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: Robert Todd Lincoln. He shot his dad, Abraham, who was 365 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: the president. 366 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 2: At the time. 367 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a big top hat on and he 368 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: didn't get the top hat. 369 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 2: No, tumble down, he got. 370 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: Below the top hat. Or actually, I don't know where 371 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: he shot him. 372 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: She shot him from behind, I think right, Or did 373 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 2: you shoot him from. 374 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: No, I think it was from behind. But this did 375 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: he get him in? 376 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 3: He didn't stud him from the stage. Now, he shot 377 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 3: him from behind. He didn't do that in the booth, 378 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 3: but Booth in the booth in the booth. 379 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: Which is just a wild It's just a very wild coincidence, 380 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: I suppose. But there's more. I can tell you more 381 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: because I can tell you're not impressed. 382 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 2: I'm deeply impressed. I can't believe it. 383 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm just trying to think of anything in 384 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 3: my life that it feels like, and I'm sure there 385 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 3: has been. 386 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: But I'm like, what, how about this one, an engaged 387 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: couple discovered that their parents almost married each other. Oh no, 388 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: so this is from Best Life Online dot com, it says, 389 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: as told in an episode of nprs This American Life 390 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: titled No Coincidence, No Story. Stephen and Helen Lee had 391 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: just gotten engaged when they made a shocking family discovery. 392 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: While looking through family photos during the engagement party in 393 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: New York. They realized that the bride's mother and the 394 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: groom's late father had nearly gotten married in Korea in 395 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: the sixties, but moved on to another relationship because their 396 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: parents disapproved by incredibly narrow odds. The two loves of 397 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: Lee's father's life from two different sides of the world. 398 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: No last now share grandchildren decades later. 399 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: Oh oh okay, I see, Yeah. 400 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: That was a little complicated at the end there, but 401 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: oh for sure. 402 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 2: Wow. 403 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: And that is another one that kind of seems like, well, 404 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: you lived in the same place, like it's possible. 405 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 3: No, that feels that feels crazy because you were almost well, 406 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 3: I guess you almost didn't exist ultimately. 407 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: Totally, you know, but it's almost like one of these 408 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: things where the fate didn't work out. So now it's 409 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: almost like, Okay, do you subscribe to the idea of 410 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: past lives or like going into another like you're going 411 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: to go to another one after this? 412 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 3: Uh huh, well, I guess yeah, I mean I like 413 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 3: the idea of it is what I like. Yeah, yeah, 414 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 3: I think it seems kind of interesting that you could 415 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 3: be like working out something from the past, right, you. 416 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: Know, because it's that's the thing. These people were still alive, 417 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: I guess the original but it's almost like their love 418 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: like it didn't work out, so now it like kind 419 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,719 Speaker 1: of went like their genetic a piece of the spiritually. 420 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, but maybe it's even. 421 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 3: Something like you know, like you know sometimes the thing 422 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 3: people say, it's like you you're you're here because somebody 423 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 3: who looked like you wanted to fuck someone that looked 424 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 3: like you, you know, so it's like, oh, you already 425 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 3: like your parents are already attracted to each other at one point, 426 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 3: So maybe y'all just kind of look like what they 427 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 3: already also liked, and you inherited some of that and 428 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 3: so now y'all, look, we're attracted to each other. 429 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 1: Don't take the fun out of this. 430 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 2: What the heck? 431 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 3: I guess I'll put my degree away, Oh my god, 432 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 3: musical theater. 433 00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, that I should have consulted you more 434 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: on the John Wilkes booths exactly. Think that wasn't a theater. 435 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wish you would have. We should circle 436 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 2: back to that. It's a it's a fine degree. 437 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: Also, I don't have a degree, so I think that 438 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: I don't. I dropped out of college. 439 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: And a lot of ways I don't either. But whatever 440 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: you want. 441 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: That's the thing. It's like, okay, you people definitely have 442 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: a taste, Like, yes, sometimes you see pictures of families 443 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: where you're like, you guys like you look like twins. 444 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: Like everyone looks like twins here. You guys really like 445 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: each other. 446 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 3: It's like folder's commercial. Yeah, you know with the oh 447 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 3: your back home. 448 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 2: Sister, whatever the hell? 449 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: That weird one. That weird one. Really it's like, hey, sister, 450 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: I've missed you. It's like, yeah, brother, it's like Jesus 451 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: have you been don't leave me again? 452 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 2: Like how did this get approved? 453 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: That's so weird? 454 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 3: Okay, I will say so. In regard to like sort 455 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,719 Speaker 3: of a past life thing, there have been people sometimes 456 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 3: when I've met them initially and like I try not 457 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 3: to think of it as like, oh, I'm just like 458 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 3: really excited, like because they're a new friend or a 459 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 3: new person in my life. But like there have been 460 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 3: times where I'm like I know you, yeah, like oh 461 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 3: I feel I know you, and I can't articulate it 462 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 3: in any other way. Then I feel I know you, 463 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 3: and then I get to know them more, and then 464 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 3: there's like oh these ways in which that we overlap, 465 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 3: but like early on, before I really know them, I'm 466 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 3: just like I know you right, which feels nice. I 467 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 3: don't know, feels like, oh, I've encountered someone that I 468 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 3: was supposed to meet exactly. 469 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: That's what it is. Yeah, And I always wonder with 470 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: those people, like like I wonder how many times you 471 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: and I have been in the same room together, yes, 472 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: before ever. 473 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 2: Meeting, like, which is exciting. 474 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: I think it's so weird, ye, And it's fun when 475 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: you make those connections. 476 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: Yes, I agree. 477 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 3: It's like it's like, oh, there was like a picture 478 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 3: going around recently of like Kamala Harris in a photo 479 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 3: with Barack Obama and she's like there and whatever, but 480 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,959 Speaker 3: like it reminded me of that kind of phenomenon that 481 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 3: people have where it's like they take a picture and 482 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 3: then they'll be like, oh my god, like this person 483 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 3: that I hadn't met there in the background, or like 484 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 3: my best friend or whatever. 485 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: People. Yeah, they were like, wait a minute, that's my dad, 486 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: that's my mom. 487 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 2: I love that. 488 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: That's kind of funny. Okay, let's do like one more 489 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: of these because and I apologize to anyone that came 490 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: for a spooky because this really isn't that spooky. But 491 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: we'll get to the spooky in a second. Okay, what 492 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:31,239 Speaker 1: about this? A meteor hit a family's home and the 493 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: family's name was the Combat Family. 494 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 2: No not the Combat Family. 495 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, no, no no. 496 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 2: What website is this? What little made up website is this? 497 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: This is my favorite kind of thing. Listen. We just 498 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 1: had on my episode with Kara Klank, we just had this. 499 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: There's a woman who I am Now if she starts 500 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: a church, I'm joining it. Her name is Jemima Packington 501 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: and she lives I'm sorry, name alone. She lives in England, Okay, 502 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: and she is an asparamancer, meaning she interprets asparagus to 503 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: make predictions. She drops the asparagus and looks at it, 504 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: and she can tell predictions now let me tell you 505 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: why this is insane. 506 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: Don't do this. 507 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: She has seventy to ninety five percent accuracy. She made 508 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: predictions for the world in December of twenty twenty three. 509 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: She said that the US is going to have its 510 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: first female president. 511 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 2: Stop. 512 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: She said that while Kamala wasn't even a part of 513 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: the conversation. 514 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 3: And she's doing this from the asparagus, from the asparagus, 515 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 3: and who is are people following her? 516 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: I don't think she's even on social media. 517 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 3: She shouldn't be because people would start coming the way. 518 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 3: People would be dropping their lives for this woman. 519 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 2: Already. I feel it. 520 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 1: I am like, first of all, I love asparagus. I 521 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: know it makes your peace smell bad, but I love it. 522 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: It's it's so good. 523 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: No, it's perfect. 524 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: Honey, I'm gonna she's gonna predict my life and the 525 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna cook me up a nice little side dish. 526 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 2: Wow. 527 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 3: She I feel like she's got the whole plan already 528 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 3: set out, like predictions. But then also on the food side, 529 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 3: she's definitely can be doing all kinds of things. 530 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: She would be asparas. Yes, she should do a cookbook. 531 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 2: A cleanse, the asparagus cleanse Yes. 532 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: That, Oh my god, that would be so genius to 533 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: start a restaurant where it's like, I will tell you 534 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: when you're gonna die and then you can eat. Yeah, 535 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: the asparagus that made this decision for us. 536 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 3: Yes, it's coursed out, it's a preset menu. Yes, it's 537 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 3: so personalized. Maybe the courses have something to do with 538 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 3: your life. It's fifteen hundred dollars to eat there. 539 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: Though, I'm starting a management company and I'm about to 540 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: approach Jamia packet to shocked left. 541 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: Actually that's bad after. 542 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: This one, this prediction that is incredible. 543 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 2: Oh, that's pretty good. 544 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: And she has a whole long list of proven things 545 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: that she has predicted happening, some not you know. But 546 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: so she's not one hundred percent accurate, which is fine, 547 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: but that's goods are good. We all have a bad 548 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: day in the job. 549 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 2: We're flawed. 550 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: We've all been in New Zealand and did a character 551 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: you know. But that doesn't mean that we're not gonna 552 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: slay most of the time exactly. 553 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 3: Not every day is New Zealand, is how I like 554 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 3: to say. No, I believe in her. I actually believe 555 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 3: in her too. Much. And she's British, you know those 556 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 3: country loves Brits more than anything. 557 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: The accent. Come on, they're just gonna believe it. I Left, 558 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 2: right and. 559 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: Center actually just found in an article they had this 560 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: picture of her where she has got fanned out in 561 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: her hands some asparagus. She looks cocky as shit, but 562 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: I love it. That is some gangster shit. It's like, 563 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: I will tell you everything with these aspera guys. 564 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 3: No, that is a woman who who knows exactly who 565 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 3: she is, you know, like, look like I'm just seeing 566 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 3: glimpses of the outfit as well, and I'm just like, 567 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 3: she knows who she is. 568 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: She's very confident and I probably would trust her. 569 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: I yes, absolutely. 570 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 2: How is she reading the asparagus? Does she have videos? 571 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 2: What's she doing? 572 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: I think she does. You know, I haven't even gotten 573 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: in there to look at everything. All I needed to 574 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: hear was this, and I'm already like, where do I 575 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: send my money? 576 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? 577 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 3: The asparagus aspect is hard to get my mind fully around. 578 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: And again she calls herself an asparamancer. But wait the 579 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: only reason I brought this up is because we have 580 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: to get back to the Comet family. 581 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 2: Oh, oh and I forgot and I forgot about the 582 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 2: Comet family. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. 583 00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: This has just become a podcast of really like funny names. 584 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: Is like all I care about. Like obviously, here's some 585 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: of the things we've covered on this podcast. The Fister Hotel, 586 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: which is in Wiscon's a very famous hotel that's haunted. 587 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: We've covered the Brown Pucy House, which is in Kentucky 588 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: and it's a haunted house, the Brown Pucy House, the 589 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: Dildo Monster of Dildo Pond, which is a real monster 590 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: in a real place. So stuff like that. Anyways, now 591 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: we're going to add to those are all the dirty ones, 592 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: but we've also got the Combat Family, which is not 593 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: dirty but so. National geographic reports that your odds are 594 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: being killed by a meteor are one in one million, 595 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: six hundred thousand, So the odds would seem infinitely small 596 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: that a meteor which had been flying through space for 597 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: more than four and a half billion years without hitting 598 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: a target would hit the home of a family with 599 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: the last name commt CO M M E. Tte. According 600 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: to Time magazine, you're asking my sources in a bizarre 601 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: case of cosmic synchronicity. That is exactly what happened to 602 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: one family in France. Thankfully nobody was hurt and the 603 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: comments are now the proud owners of their own extremely 604 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: rare extraterrestrial rock the commat the comments. That sounds like 605 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: it's nineteen sixties like dwap girls. Yes, a little trio 606 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: the commets. It's adorable. I love it. Wow. Something that's 607 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: not adorable? 608 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 3: Or is it? 609 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: Is the world of haunted dolls? Can I show you 610 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: a haunted doll? 611 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 2: Okay, it's time for the dolls are living? 612 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: Okay? 613 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 3: But I do is? 614 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: I go to epy dot com and I type in 615 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: the words haunted doll. There are thousands at a time, 616 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: and typically the belief with these dolls is that somebody 617 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: has died and they are now in a doll. Oh okay, 618 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: the options are heaven, hell, haunted email doll. That's how 619 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: it works when you die. So I have got this 620 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: is a two for one special here, Jiha, could you 621 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: please show us LaToya and ramone. It's kind of like 622 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: a lesbian couple or something. Yeah, there's certainly a queerness 623 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: to them. They both have on lipstick and long lashes 624 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: and doing to eyeliner. But I believe it's supposed to 625 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: be one as male and one is female. 626 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 2: Oh no, that can't be. That can't be. 627 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: Well it's Ramone and LaToya. 628 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 2: I guess so. 629 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 3: But they look they I mean, there's something sort of 630 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 3: precious the way they're holding each other. 631 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're adorable, kind of Oh and. 632 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 3: They way they're both like looking off lonly into the distance, 633 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 3: Like oh, I feel like. 634 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: They're looking off, Like what are you looking at? This 635 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 1: is natural? Yes, we're queer. Get over yourselves. They are 636 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 1: two dollars embracing each other. They both have blue eyes, 637 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: full face of makeup. Yes, what is definitely more butcher 638 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: than the other. Yes, And I feel like maybe it's 639 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: are they there's something cultural going on that I don't know. 640 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: Is it like a Spanish like Flamenco dancer vibe? I think? 641 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 3: But then there's also the fringe and I don't know 642 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 3: where to where to place the fringe I mean, but 643 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 3: then there's kind of a newsboy cup sort of look 644 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 3: as well. 645 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, they had lots of ideas going on when they 646 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 1: were creating these two. But here's the thing. They come 647 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: with biographies. Oh yes, oh so let me read. By 648 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: the way, they're going for sixty dollars. 649 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 2: Stop, that's too much, girl. 650 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: I've seen some that are twenty five thousand dollars like 651 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's buying them. No, Bye, what's really 652 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: big and important is a good bio when you're trying 653 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: to sell your haunted dolls. Sixty dollars Now, I want 654 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: to point out they did not offer thirty for Ramone 655 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: and thirty for LaToya. If you want them to separate, 656 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 1: you can't separate them. It's sixty dollars for both. Oh 657 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: like kittens, like the gym twins. So it says this 658 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: spicy couple is perfect for anyone looking to spice up 659 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: a relationship. They met each other at a dance competition 660 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: in the eighties and have been glued to each other 661 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 1: ever since. And then there's a smiley face. I can't 662 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: be sure what age they were when it happened, but 663 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: Ramone died, and then there's always like a little bit 664 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: of sad whatever. But basically he died and LaToya died 665 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: of a broken heart after he died. I mean they 666 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: loved each other. When she did die, he was right 667 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: there waiting for her when she was ready. This love 668 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: between them surpassed and overcame death. There are a lot 669 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: of cases when one's lover dies, they don't reconnect in 670 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: the afterlife for one reason or another. This is not 671 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: one of those cases. Were you to try to separate them, 672 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: let's just say they've given me some not so pretty images. 673 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: Were that to happen, they will not, in all caps, 674 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: be kept apart. When they were alive, they both loved 675 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: dancing so much. It was their passion, their art, their 676 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: reason for living until they met one another. They love 677 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: watching dance competitions and the activity skyrockets when music is playing. 678 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: The one kind of music they dislike, explicit rap and 679 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: hip hop trap music seems to resonate with them. They 680 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: are super active with just about any method of communication 681 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: I've offered them. The candle is their favorite. LaToya was 682 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: an amazing cook. She'd love to get offerings of homemade foods. 683 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: As for Ramon, he appreciates cigars. This couple would love 684 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: to assist your marriage by increasing libido, and they know 685 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: when to nudge you in the right direction. They almost 686 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: have a suck you by vibe to them. But they 687 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: were and are definitely human. Do you know about like 688 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: a sucubis like a sex demon. So basically that's the 689 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: two of them, so they will make you horny. 690 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 2: I guess. So they don't like explicit rap, but they 691 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 2: do like trap music. 692 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: Is that what that was? I guess that's what that was. 693 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 3: That doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but Okay, 694 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 3: they're an interesting couple for sure, that's for sure. I 695 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 3: can't imagine dying of a broken heart. 696 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: Though, you know, I have a grandma that kind of 697 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:59,439 Speaker 1: did that really. Yeah, I don't know if I guess 698 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: it's time period, but also like Mexican culture whatever, they 699 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: were married as like young teens, like prech like so young. Yeah, 700 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: and then by the time they're like in their seventies, 701 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: it's like, can you imagine I guess that is different 702 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: sixty years or something. Yeah, and then the one dies 703 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: and then and then the grandma is like, right, how. 704 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 2: Would I be by myself? 705 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 3: And I do just want to say the sort of 706 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 3: little motif or thing they have in this picture with 707 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 3: the little rocks in the in the tiny leaves, oh 708 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 3: that's nice. 709 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't even acknowledge. 710 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 3: That to give us a sense of place, and I 711 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 3: don't know what that place is, but it's definitely giving 712 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:40,280 Speaker 3: us a sense of place, velvet background, it feels like sears. 713 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. They definitely sprung for a photo package, which I 714 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 1: think is important because this is all marketing when you're 715 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: trying to sell, yes, you know, a haunted doll. 716 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and they have ballet hands, you know, they kind 717 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 3: of have like the little second effort, you know whatever together. 718 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, and they want you to know that they 719 00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: will help you get busy. 720 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 2: I don't want those to involved. 721 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 1: But I feel like they're respectful. It says they know 722 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: how to get you in the mood. And then they're 723 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: gonna be like, all right, as long as you leave 724 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: us some cigars and homemade food, we're gonna be you know, 725 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: over here. 726 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 2: We won't look. 727 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: We don't want to. 728 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,479 Speaker 2: That's why they're looking off the time. We won't be looking. 729 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 1: That's what they're doing. 730 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,760 Speaker 2: We're not looking. You guys can fuck We're not looking. 731 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. 732 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. 733 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,879 Speaker 1: So that's the two of them. Wow, can I play 734 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: you some ghost voices? Okay, it's time for EVP or 735 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: ev Please. Have you ever heard the term EVP? It 736 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: stands for Electronic voice phenomenal. Okay, so this is when 737 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: people ghost hunting believe they've captured a ghost speaking. So 738 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: I go to YouTube and I find people's EVPs. Okay, 739 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play you too, and after each time I 740 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: play you one, I'm gonna give you ABCD. And one 741 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: of these is the correct answer of what the person 742 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: that posted it leaves the ghost. 743 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 2: Of saying, okay, okay, okay. 744 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: This first one was posted by Doorways Mag and that 745 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: was on YouTube and they have recorded this at a 746 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 1: house in Union City, Indiana. What is this ghost saying? 747 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: Let me play it again? 748 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 3: Any guesses just off the top, I got I got 749 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:31,760 Speaker 3: your text? 750 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, it doesn't sound like that. 751 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: Now, well, I'll give you ABCZ. It's one of these. 752 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: Is it a ah, you're the best? B watch your back? 753 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:57,280 Speaker 1: See I heard it? Or d ah you rap bastard? Okay, 754 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: it's one of those. 755 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 2: Okay, what was b watch your back? They think it's 756 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 2: s I heard it. 757 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: Oh, let me play it again. 758 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 2: I heard it. 759 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 3: No. 760 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: This is one of these cases where I go listen, 761 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: Doorways Mag. You definitely captured something. I definitely believe that. 762 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,800 Speaker 1: I don't think that it says I heard it. Okay. 763 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: Here's another one. This is from ghost Watch Paranormal and 764 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: they recorded this at Uma State Territorial Prison in Yuma, Arizona. 765 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: What's this one saying? Okay, now there is a huge, 766 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:52,800 Speaker 1: living human that doesn't at the end. We're now listening 767 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: to that. Yes, it sounds like two voices to. 768 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 2: Me, it does. Yeah, yeah, they're just gonnase. 769 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: See. I think that they're there and they are trying 770 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:20,840 Speaker 1: to sell this off like it's one voice, one sentence 771 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: or one statement. 772 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 3: Oh, it feels like I can't hear the beginning, but 773 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 3: then the last word sounds like control. 774 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: Oh a Janet Jackson fan. 775 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 2: So they can think about, Well, that's not what they thought. Okay. 776 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: Which one of these did they think it was a 777 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: another day in the hole? B? Your mom's a hoe. Okay, 778 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 1: see you're a loser, please go should I didn't come 779 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,919 Speaker 1: up with a D? Wait? Do you like Edgar Allan Poe? 780 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 2: Okay, that's D perfect. 781 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 1: Which one of those? 782 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 2: I think it's a. 783 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 1: Another day in the hole? 784 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 2: Yes, that is what they believe the hole, And I 785 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 2: don't know what that means. 786 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: Well, I think it refers to solitary confinement the whole. Oh, 787 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,919 Speaker 1: they sometimes call it, oh lord, but it's I don't 788 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: think it's the same. Is it the same voice. I mean, honestly, listen, 789 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 1: nobody get weird about this, but this reminds me of 790 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 1: going back to when I was in New York City 791 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:45,879 Speaker 1: drive throughs. That's me at the drive through. It's like, Hey, 792 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 1: hang on one second. 793 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 2: Hi, how are you? 794 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:49,839 Speaker 3: Uh huh. 795 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 2: Maybe that's what the ghost was doing, putting on a 796 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:53,839 Speaker 2: voice another. 797 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:54,439 Speaker 1: Day in the hole. 798 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 2: Sorry you were listening. 799 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so maybe it is the same person ghost. 800 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,320 Speaker 2: They're putting on their professional voice. And even in the afterlife, 801 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 2: you have to put on your professional voice. 802 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely, you never know it's another day in the hole. Okay, 803 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: let's do one last thing. Okay, I'm just gonna like 804 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 1: throw out some. 805 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 2: Unexplainable phenomena and I'm curious your take. 806 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: Maybe I got something Bigfoot. 807 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,280 Speaker 3: Love Bigfoot, Love Bigfoot, big fan of Bigfoot. 808 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:37,879 Speaker 2: Okay, hey, yes, love Bigfoot. I I this guy. What's 809 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 2: he doing up there? You know what I'm saying? 810 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 3: Like he's just out there, He's always giving a photograph, 811 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,320 Speaker 3: you know, he's walking around through the woods. Like but like, 812 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 3: I feel like Bigfoot should be doing so much less. 813 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 3: Like to our I Bigfoot, I would just be chilling, 814 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 3: you know, I would be chilling, and I feel like 815 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:54,800 Speaker 3: he's out and about. 816 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: I don't I get where you're coming from. For me, 817 00:44:59,320 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 1: he's not out. 818 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:01,919 Speaker 2: You think he's not out enough. 819 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 1: I mean, what do we get one good decent picture? Ever? 820 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: And then every once in a while a little bit. 821 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 2: No, we've been getting photos. There were some recently. 822 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 3: There were some recent photos that I saw a Bigfoot 823 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 3: and he was out there stomping around. Someone was like, look, 824 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 3: there he is. I'm like, yeah, you were. 825 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 2: You missed the spotlight. That's what it was. 826 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 3: You came out, you missed the spotlight. You wanted people 827 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 3: to pull out their new little cameras take some pictures 828 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 3: of you. 829 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:33,320 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, so you think it's one bigfoot? 830 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 3: You know what, when you say it in that way, 831 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,359 Speaker 3: I do feel there could be more. There could be more. 832 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 3: It could be a community. I mean it could be 833 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 3: you know, is big Bigfit's Appalachia or is big Foot? 834 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 1: Well the famous video was northern California. 835 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 3: California, Okay, right, because I was gonna say, if Bigfoot's Appalachia, 836 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 3: I feel like there's all kinds of bess coming out 837 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 3: of there. You know, they got nothing but spookiness. I 838 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,879 Speaker 3: got on Apalachia TikTok, I said, how do I get 839 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,399 Speaker 3: out of here? Because Appalachia talk was like, oh, yeah, 840 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 3: you cannot have your windows open at night, like you 841 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 3: need to shut them. Spirits come in. They're talking about 842 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 3: like driving through the mountain. They're like, don't drive through 843 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 3: the mountains at night. There's like girls inside of their cars. 844 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 3: The car starts going off, the alarm, star's going up, 845 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 3: someone's in the woods yelling their names. I said, Oh, 846 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 3: Appalachia's not for me. Avalachia's for me. For me, I 847 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 3: don't need to drive through. 848 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 2: I don't need to go. Those mountains are so old. 849 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 2: They got those people inside. 850 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 3: Of there anyways, they're living whole societies and they don't 851 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 3: care what's happening here. They got their whole lives and 852 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 3: transferring that to Bigfoot. I feel like there could be 853 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 3: there could be plenty of them. There could be all 854 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 3: kinds of bigfoots inside of the big feed. Yeah, big 855 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,800 Speaker 3: feeds out in the in the mountains, in the hills. 856 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, that is the thing that from my studies 857 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,359 Speaker 1: over the years, I have found that pretty much every 858 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 1: state has their own Bigfoot of some sort, some kind 859 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 1: of Sasasquatch Creek, sure up there. And the one thing 860 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,239 Speaker 1: that I always like to point out too and this 861 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: conversation is that the famous video that we all know, 862 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 1: the leading scientist and people studying believe that that is 863 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 1: a woman big Foot because she has titties and ass 864 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:24,760 Speaker 1: wow wow, and she's sickening and her hair is Honestly, 865 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 1: if you look at it again, her hair is shining. 866 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 2: Yes, so yes, God is a woman, and so it 867 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:31,240 Speaker 2: was Bigfoot. 868 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:38,839 Speaker 1: Thank you? Yes, So next one, UFOs, where are you at? 869 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 3: I feel like sometimes I feel like UFOs are used 870 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,800 Speaker 3: to sort of not to be because there's theorist. But 871 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, sometimes I feel like they're being used to 872 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 3: distract us, you know, like something else will be going 873 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 3: on and they'll be like, oh, we have this footage, 874 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,279 Speaker 3: and I'm like, it's interesting the timing on some of this. 875 00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 3: But I don't believe we're in the universe alone. So 876 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 3: and I don't think that we're the only people that. 877 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 1: Have alved to like, well, the combat Family found that 878 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:05,879 Speaker 1: the hard way. 879 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:10,919 Speaker 3: Hey, okay, not the ads well French, you know whatever, 880 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 3: It's okay, but I I, yeah, I feel like that 881 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 3: there are extraterrestrial beings. I believe that, like, there is matter, 882 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 3: I'm sure here somewhere, But sometimes I think that the 883 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 3: way that they disperse information in terms of the government 884 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 3: is like why now or why are you keeping some 885 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 3: of this from us? 886 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that they've also kind of like 887 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 1: released stuff on a busy news day like yes, uh. 888 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 3: Huh, buried stuff, you know, or make stuff sound more 889 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,759 Speaker 3: sensational than it actually is to be like, oh, it's 890 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 3: so crazy, but it's actually not and it's really normal, 891 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,959 Speaker 3: And I don't think it should feel so sensational because 892 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 3: it is just like, oh, do you really believe that 893 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 3: we would be in this massive galaxy all by ourselves 894 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 3: and that there isn't some kind of entity outside that 895 00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 3: like it's smarter and maybe knows how. 896 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 2: To get here, you know. 897 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,640 Speaker 1: I want to reclaim conspiracy theories because I feel like 898 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,840 Speaker 1: the crazy cuckoo right wing people have taken over conspiracy 899 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,400 Speaker 1: theories and they've made it not fun anymore, but like 900 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,320 Speaker 1: it can be fun, yes, Like what I feel like, 901 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 1: there's all these conspiracy theories about like different singers, and 902 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 1: like I don't know, every once in a while, I'll 903 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 1: find myself on that side of TikTok, and that is 904 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 1: fun for me. 905 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 2: I'll entertain it. I will absolutely. I don't know that 906 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 2: I believe it, but I'll listen, and you should I 907 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:33,800 Speaker 2: believe that. 908 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 3: Well. I believe this for black folks, but maybe any 909 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 3: people of color, but I believe specifically in America that 910 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 3: you should be allowed to believe at least one conspiracy 911 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 3: theory and not have to defend it for any reason, 912 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 3: because enough has happened to black folks in this country 913 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 3: where I'm like, you know what. 914 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,759 Speaker 2: You think that there's lizard people, I'm gonna let you 915 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 2: keep that one. It's Tuskegee. 916 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 1: You know. 917 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you keep that one because of the 918 00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,800 Speaker 3: way they did birth control on black women early on. 919 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you keep a couple because they have 920 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,800 Speaker 3: lied to us and so that creates distrust. 921 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,800 Speaker 2: And if you have one little crazy belief, I'm gonna. 922 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 1: Let you keep it. Amen, Do you have one that 923 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:12,359 Speaker 1: you want to share? 924 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,759 Speaker 3: One that I used to And this isn't like a 925 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:20,800 Speaker 3: full unbelief. This is more just like I think it's funny, 926 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 3: or just the evidence I thought was interesting was around 927 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 3: evidence Stevie Wonder could see okay, because they had these 928 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,080 Speaker 3: videos of him like catching the mic really quick and 929 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:39,439 Speaker 3: like it stuff like that was like he's like he's 930 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 3: like taking a photo of a wax Michael Jackson, and 931 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,400 Speaker 3: I think, really it's just him maybe trolling, but it's really. 932 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,399 Speaker 2: Funny to me. And I'm like, oh wait, maybe he can't. 933 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 3: But you know what, it doesn't matter to me if 934 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 3: you can see, if you can't see, I don't think 935 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,279 Speaker 3: he can't, but if you can hear, if you can't see, 936 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:55,760 Speaker 3: he's an incredible artist. 937 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,520 Speaker 2: And I respect that. And that's all that I want 938 00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 2: to go on the record saying that. 939 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 1: Is it's so funny. Yeah yeah, and like people wave 940 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 1: to him. 941 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. 942 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 3: I mean it's also like what is the level like 943 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 3: blindness is like kind of a I don't know what 944 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,320 Speaker 3: blind looks like, you know, because like I think the 945 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 3: thing is like you always presume when people talk about 946 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 3: blind is like pitch black, but it's not really necessarily that. 947 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's you know what I mean, Sometimes they're like 948 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:23,400 Speaker 3: seeing shapes and stuff. 949 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 2: Well, now I'm happy to be on the record and. 950 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 1: Are heightened. Yes you know, yes, why not your sixth sense? 951 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 1: Maybe yes you can also, I mean I'm sure that 952 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,719 Speaker 1: somebody like him who was born blind can after all 953 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 1: those years, absolutely sense when someone's in the room for sure, 954 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 1: not just by smelling them. 955 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can like feel a person. I mean, I 956 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,839 Speaker 3: guess like you you've sensed that even being able to see. 957 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,839 Speaker 3: But like, yeah, if you can imagine like not having 958 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:57,200 Speaker 3: that always, your spatial awareness would be really high. Okay, 959 00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,719 Speaker 3: last one, Ouiji boards, no or I should say, I 960 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:06,400 Speaker 3: mean I I so I respect a Wiji board. I 961 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 3: respected Wuigi board in so far as I don't feel 962 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,720 Speaker 3: I ever want to be near one. I've seen the movies, 963 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,920 Speaker 3: I've seen the little the videos. 964 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 2: I've watched it. 965 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 3: When they're doing all the littles, the triangling around together. 966 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 3: I don't want to bring anything over. I don't want 967 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,440 Speaker 3: to bring anything in. I don't want to talk to anybody. 968 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,279 Speaker 3: I don't want to talk to y'all. I don't want 969 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 3: to be friends with y'all. I don't want to I 970 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 3: don't want to engage. I don't want to. 971 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 2: Bring someone into one of my friends. 972 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:32,400 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no. 973 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,120 Speaker 2: Noluigi. There was a Wiji board that got brought out 974 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,320 Speaker 2: at a party. It was a very nice. It was 975 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,920 Speaker 2: actually it was. It was an intricate party. My friend 976 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 2: is her my friend's birthday. 977 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 3: Her boyfriend had played this big murder mystery party for 978 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,879 Speaker 3: her and had all these different little games. And at 979 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 3: one point, and I should say, I'm from the South, 980 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 3: I'm from Texas, and there's a lot of people who 981 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 3: are from the South and also kind of grew up 982 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 3: Christian were at this party. He brings out the Wigi 983 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 3: board like this is the next part of the game. 984 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 3: I kid you not about five stood up and walked 985 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 3: into the house. We say, okay, y'all can do that, 986 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:04,360 Speaker 3: but we won't be doing it. 987 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 1: We'll be good. 988 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,400 Speaker 2: And so many of us left that they were like, okay, 989 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 2: we just won't do it. 990 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 1: Then I guess damn. 991 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm so sorry, not even for a joke. 992 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 2: Can I be involved in that? But respect? 993 00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,719 Speaker 1: That's very It's common. A lot of people feel that way. Yeah, 994 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,120 Speaker 1: this podcast. Over the years, because I've been doing this 995 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 1: since twenty nineteen, I've had a wei geologist on this 996 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:34,800 Speaker 1: podcast well, who runs a Oiji board society and museum. 997 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,920 Speaker 1: I've spoken to a lot of people and I think 998 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 1: the consensus is like movies definitely made a scared of them. 999 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 1: And I think also years and years of kids doing 1000 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,560 Speaker 1: it and then being like something just happened, or like whatever, 1001 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,400 Speaker 1: someone's moving it to make it say damon or whatever. 1002 00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 1: And I don't I don't deny that you could be 1003 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,440 Speaker 1: opening doors that you don't know how to close. But 1004 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:09,919 Speaker 1: I also think that it's the same thing as any 1005 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:14,480 Speaker 1: of it, like going to a psychic, going ghost hunting, 1006 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 1: which you also don't do, which I don't blame you. 1007 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,279 Speaker 1: Going to Appalachia, you know, that's all the same thing. 1008 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,080 Speaker 3: If I'm going to Appalachia, I just want to let 1009 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:25,880 Speaker 3: you know if you ever hear about me heading up 1010 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,279 Speaker 3: to the mountains, no I'm about to die. 1011 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,320 Speaker 1: Well, yeah something is incredibly wrong. Yes, and yeah you 1012 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 1: did not go on your own free will. But yeah, 1013 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:39,160 Speaker 1: it's like I deal with people constantly that are like, 1014 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:46,760 Speaker 1: that's evil, just like any of this stuff totally clips 1015 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,400 Speaker 1: of me talking to ghosts or whatever, and I'm like 1016 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:57,520 Speaker 1: maybe maybe, but like to me personally, I think it's 1017 00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,759 Speaker 1: exact same as the Internet and talking to strangers on 1018 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,200 Speaker 1: the end or not. Sometimes you can get someone good, 1019 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 1: sometimes you're gonna get a demon. It can be just 1020 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:13,120 Speaker 1: an innocent, nice thing but you can't control. It's the internet. 1021 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 1: You can't control who's going to come through. You can't 1022 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,880 Speaker 1: control unless you unless you feel like you can. But 1023 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,719 Speaker 1: I have my whole life been the exact same way 1024 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,600 Speaker 1: as you. By the way, I don't play with the 1025 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 1: wigi boards. I'm just saying, Oh, this is what I've learned. 1026 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 3: This is No. 1027 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,919 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to plead a case. I'm not trying 1028 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:31,720 Speaker 1: to plead a case. 1029 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,799 Speaker 2: Because the way you were just talking, I was like, oh, 1030 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,520 Speaker 2: you know what it's like. You're also not on the ouiji. 1031 00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,319 Speaker 1: I'm not on it because my nails and I don't 1032 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,399 Speaker 1: like to put my nails like my nails are too long, 1033 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,680 Speaker 1: and I can't put my fingers on it properly because 1034 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 1: my nails are plastic. So I can't like not using 1035 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,279 Speaker 1: the nails, I can't properly. 1036 00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 3: No, do it? 1037 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,440 Speaker 1: No, because you have to be a to put a 1038 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,919 Speaker 1: little enough of you on it, but not too much. 1039 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,359 Speaker 1: Is that Is that a part of it? Yes, you're 1040 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 1: not supposed to put your fingers down like you're supposed 1041 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:08,520 Speaker 1: to like kind of hover. 1042 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 2: Oh, I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. 1043 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:16,359 Speaker 2: But the nails, the nails. Don't stop me. Don't blame. 1044 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 2: Don't blame what like the jel x. I don't know 1045 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,280 Speaker 2: what you get, okay, jel Okay. 1046 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,279 Speaker 1: It's the gel x. Yeah, that's why I can't play. 1047 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 2: You can't be blamed. 1048 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,359 Speaker 1: That's why. That's why I can't be here, guys. That's 1049 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 1: why I have to go home. 1050 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:28,319 Speaker 3: Guys. 1051 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:29,319 Speaker 2: Sorry, I have to go home. 1052 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,640 Speaker 3: It's it's my manicure, it's my nail. I can't do 1053 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,600 Speaker 3: it because of my nails. Yeah, my nails will be pissed. 1054 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:38,640 Speaker 1: With demons again. 1055 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,200 Speaker 2: No, No, I I respect all of that, and I 1056 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:43,239 Speaker 2: feel all that. I think. 1057 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,960 Speaker 3: It's still like I'm gonna let whoever wants. 1058 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:47,560 Speaker 2: To do this thing. 1059 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 1: It's like nobody says you have to do. 1060 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 2: Of course not. 1061 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,360 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things in this life where I'm like, 1062 00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't even jumping out of a plane, No, 1063 00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,719 Speaker 1: I why that to me is not something I am 1064 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:01,719 Speaker 1: interested at all. 1065 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,520 Speaker 2: No cave diving. You know people who swim in the caves. 1066 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,920 Speaker 1: Never in a million years am I jumping in a cave. 1067 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,120 Speaker 2: No, I don't even want to be in a cave, 1068 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:13,799 Speaker 2: a regular. 1069 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:20,680 Speaker 1: Aladdin, that thing closed in I'm not going down there. No, no, 1070 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:25,280 Speaker 1: stuck in a cave. It's trapped with a genie hell 1071 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 1: doing impressions of people. No, I am not doing that. 1072 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,000 Speaker 2: No, yeah, you're gonna die. 1073 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:38,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. Or would you know the one The Descent that movie? No, no, no, no, 1074 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 1: it's this group of I'm assuming lesbians, but maybe not. 1075 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:51,280 Speaker 1: It's a group of women that goes blunking, which that 1076 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:55,600 Speaker 1: is a term when you jump into the caves. These 1077 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,600 Speaker 1: ladies say no boys allowed, just as girls. We're gonna 1078 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,920 Speaker 1: get our and we're gonna go splunking. And they splunk 1079 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 1: into this cave. Turns out there's some creatures in there 1080 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 1: that can't see them if they move. The creatures can 1081 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 1: only detect if they move, so they have to be 1082 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:17,080 Speaker 1: completely still. And there's like these like naked mole rat 1083 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:24,560 Speaker 1: looking creatures. It's terrifying. The Descent. Hey, you've been a 1084 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 1: great guest. 1085 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:26,600 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much. 1086 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 1: Can you tell people where to find you? 1087 00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 2: Oh me? 1088 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,120 Speaker 3: You know in Los Angeles you can find me all around. 1089 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,960 Speaker 3: I'm zoom I'm zipping and zapping across this little city. 1090 00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 3: But you know you can also follow me on Instagram. 1091 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:41,920 Speaker 3: I am Rachel Pegram. 1092 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,320 Speaker 1: Are you still doing your show at barco Yes. 1093 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Wednesdays. We're back Wednesdays at eight pm at Covel. 1094 00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,600 Speaker 1: It's a great show. Thank you. So people should absolutely 1095 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 1: go if you're in La Wednesday nights Barcoval. 1096 00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 2: It's a great time. 1097 00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:58,640 Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much. You want to go play 1098 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,320 Speaker 1: with Echi Ai? 1099 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:00,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1100 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, another day in the hole? 1101 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:04,919 Speaker 2: Oh, another day in the whole. 1102 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:11,120 Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Rachel, and thank you for listening. 1103 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 1: As always, please check out my instagram at Roz Hernandez 1104 00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,320 Speaker 1: to see all of my tour dates. 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