WEBVTT - An Era Tradition w/ Emily Schromm

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? Everyone? Listen up, Davon is about to pop

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<v Speaker 1>off and you don't want to miss it. I'm just kidding, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing simone. What is my name?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>I am Davion Roger And this is MTV's official Challenge podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Now now look, woo boy boy, oh boy. Today is

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<v Speaker 1>a day that was an episode so much going on day?

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't you say?

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<v Speaker 3>This episode was out of control? Like across the Boy.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know where to start what I I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know? This episode was just a lot, a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>A lot, A lot, a lot. How did you feel?

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<v Speaker 3>Let's let's just go in order?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>How did you feel about the challenge?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know how heavy that wishbone? I knows?

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<v Speaker 1>I know because I feel like it would have been

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<v Speaker 1>super the era one initially thinking they could sit it

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<v Speaker 1>up straight. I just need tea, and the way that

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<v Speaker 1>they yelled at each other, Oh my gosh, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>And then can we get into wait wait, wait, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because I need it on a T shirt? What Tina said?

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<v Speaker 1>Bob and weed bitch Bob and we he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what are we supposed to know?

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<v Speaker 3>He was like, where do we go?

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<v Speaker 1>She was like Bob and we bitch Bob and we

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot. I literally that needs to be a shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody please make it out and send it to me

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<v Speaker 1>in New York. Thank you. Amazing. Yeah, that was so good.

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<v Speaker 1>What were your thoughts about A day?

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<v Speaker 3>I was extremely impressed, not because it's my era, but

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<v Speaker 3>I was extremely impressed with Era four. Communication was on points,

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<v Speaker 3>hustle was on point, everything was on point, and so

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<v Speaker 3>I was extremely extremely proud of them. Now Era one

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<v Speaker 3>holds a very special place in my heart. But my

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<v Speaker 3>babies are breaking down.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, like that mentally physically, they're all just completely breaking down.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what's an interesting sort of an observation

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<v Speaker 1>is I think, because this is just my hypothesis, the

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<v Speaker 1>longer you do the show, the more you think you

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<v Speaker 1>know about it right because you're doing it. So we

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<v Speaker 1>saw Era one fighting the most because no one wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to back down from their perspective because they're like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen this show for twenty years or I've been

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<v Speaker 1>on this show for how many times or whatever else,

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<v Speaker 1>which is probably true just for like aging in general.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the older you get, you feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>get stubborn. So yeah, it was interesting seeing because it

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like each era progressively their communication just got worse.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah it was, it was a hot mess. Era two

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<v Speaker 3>what no better? But across the board, this was this

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<v Speaker 3>challenge right here. And that's the thing that I love

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<v Speaker 3>about these dailies is it's not just okay, let's get

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<v Speaker 3>from point A to point B or let's do it

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<v Speaker 3>like you have to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of.

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<v Speaker 3>Communication that goes on and that's where the ball gets

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<v Speaker 3>dropped a lot, like how communication sucks across the board.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I just I was really proud of Era

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<v Speaker 3>four in this. Now they win and then we get

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<v Speaker 3>into the chamber, laughing so hard, let's get into this

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<v Speaker 3>chamber because I really feel like I feel like Tina,

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<v Speaker 3>even though she didn't do any of the talking, I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like she stole the show of the chamber because

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<v Speaker 3>my girl was in there with her pen and pencil

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<v Speaker 3>and her notepad and she was taking all of the notes,

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<v Speaker 3>every single piece of tea that was spilled. My girl

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<v Speaker 3>she got it like she got all of it. And

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<v Speaker 3>so I was really really really impressed watching this.

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<v Speaker 1>Nea Mayah, you know what you would think after all

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<v Speaker 1>these years, he would like learn to politic better. My god,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you would. And you know what, I

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<v Speaker 1>respect Devin so much for his approach in that situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I respect because I do. We talk about people getting

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<v Speaker 1>frazzled in making quick decisions for like voting people in

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<v Speaker 1>and blah blah blah blah blah and be on the spot,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel like some people get themselves in trouble

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<v Speaker 1>on this show. Yeah, because they make quick agreeance. They

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<v Speaker 1>agree quickly when presented with you know, oh, be an alliance,

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<v Speaker 1>like they kind of just like yeah, okay, and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't really think it through. And I respect so much

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<v Speaker 1>that Devin was like, you know, this sounds cool, but

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<v Speaker 1>here's how I play, Like I need to take it

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<v Speaker 1>back to my teammate, Like I just like mad props

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<v Speaker 1>to him being grace under pressure in that regard, and

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<v Speaker 1>it obviously served him well in the end. And he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the first to tell on Niam, Like, he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even bring it up in deliberation as far as we saw.

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<v Speaker 3>I was completely and even like lie, like me, come

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<v Speaker 3>kind of do something. I was just so like, what

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<v Speaker 3>is going on?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he couldn't lie, but he should have thought through.

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<v Speaker 1>He should have thought through the steps, Like I guess

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<v Speaker 1>he really just didn't expect Devin to turn him down.

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<v Speaker 1>But you also to negotiate, much like in dating. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. You gotta know what you bring to

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<v Speaker 1>the table and be honest about it. So people trying

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<v Speaker 1>to strike deals from a place of a disadvantage. Now granted,

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<v Speaker 1>he had Emily on his team, which is an advantage,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not like he and Emily are aligned or

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<v Speaker 1>teammates for the whole time, you know, like two person

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<v Speaker 1>team the whole time. They just happen to be paired

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<v Speaker 1>up in this moment. And Devin probably knew deep down

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<v Speaker 1>that Emily speaks for herself in general, Like he probably

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<v Speaker 1>knew that if Emily was on board, she would have

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<v Speaker 1>come and spoken to him. And so look, love Nea

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<v Speaker 1>mayah down and I would say the same thing about myself.

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<v Speaker 1>But when negotiating, But you can't take two peanuts and

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<v Speaker 1>try and get a smartphone, Like it's just not a

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<v Speaker 1>fair trade. You need to be serious about what you

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<v Speaker 1>are bringing, are off or maybe collect some more nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but we've seen it time and time

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<v Speaker 1>again fail and then people get mad, yeah, because they

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<v Speaker 1>their trade isn't accepted. And I think in this situation,

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<v Speaker 1>Neamyah was very much even though he won and again

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to Niamaiyah, but I think the way he

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<v Speaker 1>presented the trade was very much. It was peanuts, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Because and you also take into account who you're approaching.

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<v Speaker 3>Devin is attached to half the cast, and it was.

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<v Speaker 1>A mastermind when it comes to yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's almost like, no, what can you bring

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<v Speaker 3>me that I don't already have?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>He got peanuts, acorns, patascios, he got them all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I just it didn't if people need to learn

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<v Speaker 1>that's like negotiation one oh one, or at least make

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<v Speaker 1>it a peer, like you have more than nuts in

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<v Speaker 1>the box. I don't know something and he did not.

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<v Speaker 1>And what are your thoughts on how Kylin and Olivia

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<v Speaker 1>handled it?

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<v Speaker 3>I was here for it because Kyler was just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of sitting back let everything. He really didn't have to

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<v Speaker 3>do much but just kind of presented and then just

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<v Speaker 3>watch every because as long as Devin and Nehemiah are

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<v Speaker 3>kind of going back and forth telling on themselves of

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<v Speaker 3>what happened, all you can do is sit there and

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<v Speaker 3>collect information. And so I feel like the type of

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<v Speaker 3>player that I believe that Kylon is. This was a

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<v Speaker 3>great opportunity for him to sit back and whatever he

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<v Speaker 3>did not know, he was able to get in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's get into this elimination. Because what did we watch, Devin,

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<v Speaker 3>What do we go to home depots today?

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<v Speaker 1>Watch Tim the two man, Taylor and his neighbor Wilson.

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<v Speaker 1>I was Wilson. We were all Wilson looking over the fence.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're too young to get that reference, google it anyway. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a lot watching this elimination and to see

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<v Speaker 1>CT go out on this one, it hurts weirdly.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like it going on. Yeah, I mean, and

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<v Speaker 3>shout out to Neamya because he did that. He did

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<v Speaker 3>he did that. And shout out for setting the standard

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<v Speaker 3>because maybe everybody tried to copy. So shout out to Tina.

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<v Speaker 1>Tina looked like she was doing a demonstration at Costco.

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<v Speaker 1>She made it look so easy. You know when you

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<v Speaker 1>end up buying all that stuff you don't need, because

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<v Speaker 1>when they did it, it looked so easy. You're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I can hang a hundred pictures at once too. She

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<v Speaker 1>made it one two step, It's done, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>get home and you're like, why I don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>I did this to myself. That was Tina. Tina made

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<v Speaker 1>it look so easy.

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<v Speaker 3>My goodness, it was so different for everybody. And then

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<v Speaker 3>we get to these targets. Okay, this is where we

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<v Speaker 3>made differ, right, Okay, I'm listening because my heart breaks

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<v Speaker 3>for Johnny and I know that, and I know you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be like, well, she went back on her worm.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Okay, I don't sound like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But for me, I feel like, what do you do?

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<v Speaker 3>You know that you have this big alliance that are

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<v Speaker 3>going to protect each other and they're not You're not

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<v Speaker 3>in that alliance, and you're kind of like I think

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<v Speaker 3>she kind of felt like, oh, they can't see me, but.

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<v Speaker 1>She was drowning, and she like, what do I do?

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<v Speaker 1>But I wonder if and we don't know, we'll have

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<v Speaker 1>to get her on to ask this because obviously there's

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<v Speaker 1>only so much they can show. But I wonder because

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<v Speaker 1>my thought process is and I hear her concern. It's valid,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when she's like, yeah, of course they want me

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<v Speaker 1>to vote myself in. But also I know I'm at

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom of the totem pole. I hear all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>But my question is, then did she have real conversations,

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<v Speaker 1>not defensive ones, not just save me, but real conversations

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<v Speaker 1>individually with like, okay, cool, I'm happy to be a

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<v Speaker 1>team player now, knowing it's gonna have to break up

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<v Speaker 1>at some point. I'm happy being a team player now,

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<v Speaker 1>voting myself in now because we've all we're all taking

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<v Speaker 1>turns like I'm fair, But are we all on the

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<v Speaker 1>same page or can I have your word that for

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<v Speaker 1>this game though, we as a team are gonna fight

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<v Speaker 1>hard to win. I wonder because now she's just kissed

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<v Speaker 1>everybody off. Whatever she didn't work, because she's now great.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're going in. Now the whole house potentially knows

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<v Speaker 1>that you like waffled, and so now no one's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>it's while she was trying to play a hidden game,

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<v Speaker 1>which I you know, I respect, she's now there's like

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<v Speaker 1>a limelight on her in a negative way, and I just.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the hard part because I don't know who

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<v Speaker 3>her allies are, but it doesn't seem like she has

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of allies inside of the house, and so

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<v Speaker 3>that's what makes her going back on her word different

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<v Speaker 3>from Josh going back on his work because he can

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<v Speaker 3>fall back on his lions, you know, and they're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>cover and protect him. She doesn't have anybody to fall

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<v Speaker 3>back on, so she's kind of stuck like a truck.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta be brave, like in this game. I think

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<v Speaker 1>for all of us there's some element of bravery. And

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen Johnny do it time and time again. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a multi time champ. I think. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if it's because this is the main show. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it's because it was forty. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if because the dynamics were different, having the different eras,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was like in that moment, we really needed

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<v Speaker 1>to see the john a bravery.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's I think that's the hard part because

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<v Speaker 3>it's like it's that fine line between bravery versus stupidity.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah no, I'm not saying. Look, I think the difference

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<v Speaker 1>is if no, no one's volunteering themselves ever and you

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly go, I'm gonna do it like that time Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>did it back in the day or whatever else that's stupid,

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<v Speaker 1>or what Tony did that's stupid. But if there starts

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<v Speaker 1>to be a trend of the team and everyone's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of on board. It's kind of like picking your battles right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>the risk potentially is greater by jumping out of line

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<v Speaker 1>against the team right now than it would have been

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<v Speaker 1>to volunteer, make sure the team's on board to win though,

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<v Speaker 1>kick ass for the next challenge, whatever that may be,

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<v Speaker 1>and then from that point on, at least she can

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<v Speaker 1>be like, Okay, I'm a woman on my word. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>she could build alliances around her word being valuable. But

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<v Speaker 1>we'll just have to see how it plays out. I

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<v Speaker 1>get her fear, but I feel like it's putting her

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<v Speaker 1>in a tougher spot. Speaking of a tough spot, why

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<v Speaker 1>don't we talk about who's getting your gold, your silver,

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<v Speaker 1>your bronze, your participation, and then we'll go into who's

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<v Speaker 1>getting the gold star and the timeout of the week,

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<v Speaker 1>starting with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Day okay, Era one participation. I'm glad you guys are here,

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<v Speaker 3>so glad that Charlie reed to come and do this challenge.

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<v Speaker 3>Era two bronze.

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<v Speaker 1>We appreciate you too.

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<v Speaker 3>We appreciate you too. Era three m okay, okay. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>usually I would have given them bronze for the way

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<v Speaker 3>that it was just chaotic and it was hecticing all

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<v Speaker 3>this yelling and screaming, but sometimes sometimes you need it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's almost like this is gonna sound so bad. It's

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<v Speaker 3>almost like you don't understand what I'm saying unless I'm yelling,

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<v Speaker 3>Like you don't get it unless I'm yelling. If I

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<v Speaker 3>just say it to you don't understand it. But when

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<v Speaker 3>I start yelling, then you understand it. And so that's

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<v Speaker 3>what was happening. Jordan was like, listen, if you would

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<v Speaker 3>just do this, do that, Like he really had to

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<v Speaker 3>put his foot down, you know, and Tory had to

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<v Speaker 3>put her foot down in order for them to make

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<v Speaker 3>it come together. And so that's I'm gonna give them

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<v Speaker 3>the silver, and I'm gonna give the gold medal to

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<v Speaker 3>Era four because they rocked out. They rocked out today

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<v Speaker 3>or that day.

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<v Speaker 1>But what about you, that's all valid Era one Yes participation.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we align like, thank you for showing thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for getting out of bed. I know it was

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<v Speaker 1>probably a struggle to do some stretches, but appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>for getting out of bed. Then bronze is gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>to I'm actually gonna say it's gonna go to Air two. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>because of the all the fighting just in general, all

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<v Speaker 1>the fighting and Laurel's play was a smart play for

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<v Speaker 1>her game. I don't love it, but it's a valid

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<v Speaker 1>play for her game. And and if Emily seems like

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<v Speaker 1>she wants, the longer you let her in the game,

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<v Speaker 1>the harder it's gonna be to get her out. And

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<v Speaker 1>she's on your team, so you're not gonna be able

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<v Speaker 1>to personally take her out. That's not a dumb move,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's not But give them bronze. Silver is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to go to Era three as well. I

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<v Speaker 1>like the way they handled negotiations this time, like, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was played very well. And then yes gold

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<v Speaker 1>has to go to air for the communication level was

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<v Speaker 1>on point. Yeah, they did an excellent job and executing.

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<v Speaker 1>They seemed pretty calm throughout the whole time. Here for

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<v Speaker 1>it a fan. Now, who gets your gold Star of

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<v Speaker 1>the week and your time out? And are we rationing

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<v Speaker 1>it like it's nineteen twelve again?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so I'm gonna pull you. I'm gonna have a nominee. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>the editor when they talk about Laurel throwing it, and

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<v Speaker 3>then it cuts to her confessional when she's like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, her leaving is not a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Ed is top Tiers so good?

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<v Speaker 3>It was so good. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like one person owned for me this entire episode,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm going to give it to Tita to the

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<v Speaker 3>same I'm gonna give it to Tina. Tina rocked this

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<v Speaker 3>episode for me, like hands down, by herself. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>giving no parts to nobody else. I'm giving it to Tina.

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<v Speaker 3>How about you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, this was Tina's episode. Hands down. Tina is

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<v Speaker 1>freaking hilarious. I cannot Bob and we bitch is literally

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<v Speaker 1>a needs to go on a shirt Bob and we

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<v Speaker 1>bitch Bob and wech And then was the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>when they said the name of the elimination, it was

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<v Speaker 1>called getting hammered, and she said, ooh I did that

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<v Speaker 1>last night. Tina is everything. And then her turn te

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<v Speaker 1>tea making up like thirty seconds after being like, oh, if.

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<v Speaker 3>You like, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Tina is just she is a whole. Like it took

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<v Speaker 1>everything I mean not to text her because we like girl,

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<v Speaker 1>like I cannot with you. She's freaking hilarious. She gets

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<v Speaker 1>my gold star, who gets your time out of the week?

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm gonna put two people in time out this week.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna Putkarra and Laurel in timeout. And not only

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<v Speaker 3>in timeout, I want to put them in one of

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<v Speaker 3>them oversized T shirts with the two heads so they

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<v Speaker 3>can have the one T shirt, that get along T shirt?

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<v Speaker 3>Because what are we doing? This is long, this is dragged,

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<v Speaker 3>as tired. The story has ran stale. We are tired

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<v Speaker 3>of it. Either get it together or don't ever talk

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<v Speaker 3>to each other ever again, Like pick a side, like

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<v Speaker 3>don't straddle the fence. Y'all can't be in a gray

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<v Speaker 3>area no more. Ain't no more gray. You're black or

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<v Speaker 3>you're white. What you're doing? Get up out of there.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't handle it anymore because now it's starting to

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<v Speaker 3>get very It's like it's nasty. It's starting to get

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<v Speaker 3>really nasty between the two of them. And as far

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<v Speaker 3>as this situation that happened today, both were wrong my

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<v Speaker 3>personal opinion, I felt like Kara was pushing the buttons

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<v Speaker 3>and egging it on, but Laurel self control, so it's

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<v Speaker 3>like come on, like, oh, it was just it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't want to see that. It's too heavy. Great competitors,

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<v Speaker 3>like such great women, strong competitors like pull it together

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<v Speaker 3>and to say, get yourself together. That's what we want

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<v Speaker 3>to see.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why said Dave Bon's gonna pop off earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, because we've talked about this. I agree. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>A it's just so toxic. I'm gonna throw one additional

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<v Speaker 1>person there, Michelle, because I feel like she is climbing

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<v Speaker 1>the wall to like be in that toxicity. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think all three of them, it's not good for any

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<v Speaker 1>of them. I also, I think sometimes we have to

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<v Speaker 1>remember that naturally people root for the underdog, and people

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<v Speaker 1>can be deemed an underdog, whether it be their experience,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it be their size, whether it be their voice,

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<v Speaker 1>how they present themselves, all sorts of things, and oftentimes

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<v Speaker 1>what will happen is when the sort of bigger person

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<v Speaker 1>or the one the seemingly top dog, bites back at

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<v Speaker 1>the underdog, even if the underdog was like the chihuahua

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<v Speaker 1>that was biting initially, then the top dog gets the

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<v Speaker 1>most flax. So seeing that sort of juxtaposition of Laurel

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<v Speaker 1>by herself, but I think she probably does better by

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<v Speaker 1>herself and everyone coming around Kara like oh, like I look,

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<v Speaker 1>it was bad for both of them, and I feel

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<v Speaker 1>for both of them, but it's not realistic to pretend

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't watch Kara poking, poking, poking, pok poking, and

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<v Speaker 1>Laurel bit back and she bit back really hard and

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<v Speaker 1>went lower than like I when she said what she said,

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<v Speaker 1>Kara calling her stupid b I was just like, oh gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's awful, because it is and not okay. But she

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<v Speaker 1>also was trying to make a sandwich and was being

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<v Speaker 1>antagonized a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>You antagonized when you hungry.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, don't do what I'm hungry. No, there's a tw

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<v Speaker 1>if you go on my instagram, pretty sure's a tweet

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<v Speaker 1>that says I'm sorry for the things I said when

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<v Speaker 1>I was hungry, and because yeah, yeah, you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>me to bite back. So my mother's like that, Lord,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want her to my back. She's I mom.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I think it's just all bad. So all

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<v Speaker 1>three of them get time out. Because also, Michelle, we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing this again too, and we've seen it before. You're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to be We've talked about it on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>like let it go, Michelle. You have people who love

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<v Speaker 1>you have a budding romance girl. All right, like, go

0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:01.080
<v Speaker 1>enjoy all the great things that are happening. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>need Laurel's approval. So yeah, all of them going to

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<v Speaker 1>time out along with TJ's shirt. That's the shirt they

0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:10.879
<v Speaker 1>can wear. But this episode is a winner. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>gold star across the board. We have a fabulous guest

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<v Speaker 1>coming on. Who do we have day?

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<v Speaker 3>We have the one, the only, mislove and peace herself,

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<v Speaker 3>Emily strom I can't wait. Oh this is gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>a good one. Buckle up, people, And she has some tea,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Mike like, she has some tea, healthy tea

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<v Speaker 3>coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right after this. Okay, let's get back to the show,

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<v Speaker 1>ladies and gentle friends. We are so excited to welcome

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<v Speaker 1>our next guest. She's been described as a walking ray

0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:55.000
<v Speaker 1>of sunshine, and I have to say I very much agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably the most positive energy in the Challenge house. We

0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:02.240
<v Speaker 1>were so sad to see her go today, but she's

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<v Speaker 1>here with us right now. Please give it up for

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<v Speaker 1>the fabulous Emily Stromo.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, at least I was tan, you all, at

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<v Speaker 2>least I was tan.

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<v Speaker 1>That's literally what she was commenting, you guys, when we

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<v Speaker 1>were watching the elimination, she just kept commenting, at least

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<v Speaker 1>I look tan stuff snatched excellent. What was going on

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<v Speaker 1>with that? I know we're jumping ahead, but it's because

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<v Speaker 1>you also said in the comments as we were watching this,

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<v Speaker 1>watch the boys try to do Tina's technique as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And sure enough, the boys tried Tina's technique and fit.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously it an't work. So what exactly was going on?

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<v Speaker 2>It's so hard because you never want to take away

0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:44.800
<v Speaker 2>from the winner, right, Like I want Tina, Tina needs

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<v Speaker 2>to have that win in some ways, like it's I

0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:48.600
<v Speaker 2>still don't think she needed to have them win more

0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:51.320
<v Speaker 2>than I wanted to have that win, but like it's

0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:54.199
<v Speaker 2>good to see someone succeed, you know. So, But the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that because I was trying that at first, then

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<v Speaker 2>I started to go back to pulling it because it

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<v Speaker 2>was getting worse and I was getting yelled at from

0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:04.040
<v Speaker 2>the crowd try it again, because to them and to

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<v Speaker 2>the TV just watching it, it's like, she all you do?

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<v Speaker 3>Is this?

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<v Speaker 2>That's all you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it looks like a no brainer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's just not the case. It's one of those

0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:14.800
<v Speaker 2>things where of course she tried. Of course, it was

0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:18.080
<v Speaker 2>high effort. She's also a manifestor in human design, which

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<v Speaker 2>I'm super obsessed with. It's kind of like astrology on crack,

0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:22.679
<v Speaker 2>you know. So I'm like, okay, she manifested this, and

0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:25.520
<v Speaker 2>she's Vietnamese, so like she had maybe like all her

0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:27.760
<v Speaker 2>ancestors were behind his board and they just like blew

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<v Speaker 2>the eye. You know, who knows, but like just based

0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:33.920
<v Speaker 2>on seeing I'm so glad they did show CTA and

0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:37.520
<v Speaker 2>the Amayah trying it, because until they tried it, everyone

0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:40.399
<v Speaker 2>thought that I did it a wrong way, like you

0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:42.280
<v Speaker 2>were just like, come on, why are you doing it

0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:45.560
<v Speaker 2>this way? And it's just just put sideways and it

0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:49.480
<v Speaker 2>was like no, right, So I had to make a decision,

0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:51.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, I will just go one by one. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no other way around this. I heard her her nails drop,

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<v Speaker 2>and I, you know, my heart just sunk. It was

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<v Speaker 2>like it was a machine gun, you know, And I

0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:04.119
<v Speaker 2>was so ready for something physical, and I knew walking in,

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<v Speaker 2>I was already kind of like laughing about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very tim the two man Taylor. It was

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<v Speaker 1>very sure. It was very that though I do like

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<v Speaker 1>that they have equalizer elimination, you know, like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>nice balance.

0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:19.040
<v Speaker 2>It is, but you know, Equalizer is also like a puzzle.

0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:21.800
<v Speaker 2>It's also like, you know, something a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>engaging mentally.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, look, I will say this, the ending

0:22:24.960 --> 0:22:28.200
<v Speaker 1>shot was a little funny with a CT and Neamaiah,

0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:31.040
<v Speaker 1>which also I was mind blown by that, like completely,

0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:34.800
<v Speaker 1>I just I didn't. I still have mixed feelings about

0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:36.600
<v Speaker 1>it all. But the ending show, you know how it's

0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:40.320
<v Speaker 1>always so dramatic watching the ending shot elimination. Two things

0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:42.920
<v Speaker 1>sit out to me about this. One One was TJ

0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:46.000
<v Speaker 1>standing behind you all watching like a proud or unproud

0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:48.680
<v Speaker 1>dad at a soccer match, Like he was just standing

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<v Speaker 1>just behind like watching the whole time. I thought that

0:22:50.560 --> 0:22:53.920
<v Speaker 1>was very funny. And then two the like slow down

0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:59.040
<v Speaker 1>freeze frame as they were finishing, namely CT and Neemayah,

0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:03.320
<v Speaker 1>and it's them just doing like an Amazon demonstration, you know,

0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:06.080
<v Speaker 1>like a hang like here's how you hang your photo,

0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:07.800
<v Speaker 1>like like that's as actually what it was.

0:23:07.880 --> 0:23:11.080
<v Speaker 2>And I do feel you know, and they said even

0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:13.679
<v Speaker 2>talking to Torri after the fact, She's like, dude, you

0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:15.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean I almost caught up. You can't see it,

0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:15.920
<v Speaker 2>but like.

0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:18.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we saw it, Okay, thank.

0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:19.960
<v Speaker 1>You I didn't, so I'm glad you pointed it that

0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I didn't.

0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I was like, oh, I'm I have

0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:25.199
<v Speaker 2>to individually do this one by one and still catch up.

0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:27.280
<v Speaker 2>But I was already more than three fourths of the

0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:31.240
<v Speaker 2>board done putting the nails in, so like full send,

0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:33.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, this is all I can do. I remember

0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:36.000
<v Speaker 2>hitting the nail in and like my glove got hit.

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:39.480
<v Speaker 2>So at the end of the elimination, my glove is hanging.

0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Like so sadly on the board. Yeah, an tij was so.

0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:46.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, he was right behind me, just cheering me on,

0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:49.119
<v Speaker 2>like keep going, you know, like he really was in

0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:51.960
<v Speaker 2>my corner. He like it was. It was sad, but

0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:53.679
<v Speaker 2>there was just nothing else to do. So I do

0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:57.800
<v Speaker 2>know had I gone against anyone except Tina who manifested

0:23:57.800 --> 0:23:59.919
<v Speaker 2>this wild rage against this board.

0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:02.960
<v Speaker 1>And she does woodworking. Did you hear that she does

0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:07.800
<v Speaker 1>woodworking in her shoes and her letter? Guess yes?

0:24:07.920 --> 0:24:11.000
<v Speaker 2>But like I also have FaceTime Tina, and I'm like, Tina,

0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:12.440
<v Speaker 2>We're looking at her backyard.

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:13.920
<v Speaker 3>She's like, look what I built.

0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:15.760
<v Speaker 2>I go, oh my god, you build that, And she's like,

0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:18.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean I hired people, And I'm like wait, wait, wait,

0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:20.919
<v Speaker 2>so the one worker didn't tell people what to do,

0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:23.840
<v Speaker 2>and I think it's the latter, so she might have

0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:26.840
<v Speaker 2>said that, but I mean, I'm over here. I live

0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:29.800
<v Speaker 2>on a farm building garden boxes. Like if anyone was

0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:32.199
<v Speaker 2>going to nail this challenge, it was me, you know,

0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:35.639
<v Speaker 2>like I really was like very comfortable with this, and

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:37.560
<v Speaker 2>I know she said it, but like, come on, Tina,

0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:39.240
<v Speaker 2>we know you hired someone for that.

0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:43.639
<v Speaker 1>It's actually interesting that the two So if it's true

0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:46.360
<v Speaker 1>that Tina primarily hires people and does it would work

0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:48.200
<v Speaker 1>if that is the case or the angle she takes,

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:50.639
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting that the two people then, who probably do

0:24:50.720 --> 0:24:53.520
<v Speaker 1>have more experience with nailing things because you said you

0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:56.960
<v Speaker 1>build flower boxes and CT has done construction, that those

0:24:57.000 --> 0:24:59.240
<v Speaker 1>were the two that didn't win because you know, good

0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:01.280
<v Speaker 1>and well me and my and he basically alluded to

0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:03.560
<v Speaker 1>it does not do this on a regular It was

0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:04.760
<v Speaker 1>like upside down day.

0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:07.800
<v Speaker 2>No skill required. This challenge had no skill required, and

0:25:07.880 --> 0:25:09.440
<v Speaker 2>I just think it was one of those things where

0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:12.160
<v Speaker 2>I had to fully accept the challenge had spit me out,

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:15.879
<v Speaker 2>you know, I had come back. I was like I'm ready,

0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:19.119
<v Speaker 2>and every single female up there you saw it on

0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:22.199
<v Speaker 2>some of their faces, the relief of me leaving. I

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:26.600
<v Speaker 2>don't blame them. I mean, like they just won that moment.

0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:29.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, like there's nobody in that crowd that I

0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 2>wasn't afraid of or I was afraid of, right, And

0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:34.440
<v Speaker 2>if I get to the final, we know what I'm

0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:37.119
<v Speaker 2>capable of. And I felt that I walked into the

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:42.199
<v Speaker 2>Challenge house on day one and I, you know, not judgmentally,

0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:46.560
<v Speaker 2>but I'm like, okay, sizing everybody up. Where's their fitness at?

0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:49.159
<v Speaker 2>Where's the mental game at? Clearly I've been gone a

0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:52.439
<v Speaker 2>long time. I don't really know what to expect, but

0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 2>I know I am the most prepared in every possible

0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 2>way that I can be, and I have no doubt

0:25:57.840 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 2>that I can make it to the final and win.

0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:03.439
<v Speaker 2>The fact that I got out this early, you know,

0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 2>in this kind of weird, bizarre elimination, everyone was stoked.

0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:11.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean no question, they were glad I was gone.

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:13.960
<v Speaker 3>We saw it on their faces and we heard it

0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 3>from their mouths. Like that has to feel so good,

0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:21.679
<v Speaker 3>knowing like, oh, y'all was terrified, Like well, amen, Like

0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:25.920
<v Speaker 3>that had to feel really really good. You spoke about

0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:28.159
<v Speaker 3>how you've been gone for a long time, like your

0:26:28.200 --> 0:26:30.359
<v Speaker 3>last season was ten years ago, over ten years ago,

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:32.920
<v Speaker 3>and so what was the most shocking part about coming

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:38.360
<v Speaker 3>back into this chaotic, amazing environment.

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:42.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you guys you can tell like I'm kind

0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:45.040
<v Speaker 2>of having a good time, you know, like I really

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:48.120
<v Speaker 2>am having a good time, because I think the most

0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:52.160
<v Speaker 2>shocking is so hippie of me. But the most shocking

0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:55.400
<v Speaker 2>is like they don't even have real grass. There's nothing

0:26:55.880 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 2>natural or nature. The amount of effort had go to

0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:03.359
<v Speaker 2>to climb trees and find trees, you know, Like I

0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:06.440
<v Speaker 2>was always so grateful, you know when they had plant

0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:09.479
<v Speaker 2>their landscapers there. That's truthfully, the most shocking was just

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:12.080
<v Speaker 2>like I'm in the middle of really hot summer Vietnam

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:15.680
<v Speaker 2>and it's like concrete and there's just a lot of people,

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 2>and I the last i'd say two years, have been

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 2>driving around in a van, jumping in rivers and climbing mountains,

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:25.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, so I like have no concept of just

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:28.080
<v Speaker 2>being stuck. So to me, that was the shift. It

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:31.199
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, I really have to adjust quickly to

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:34.159
<v Speaker 2>being like told what to do to go to this place.

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 2>And that's the adjustment that's the hardest for me is

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 2>losing that freedom, but then it's always worth it because

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:42.879
<v Speaker 2>you're making it with the goal in mind. This is

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 2>short term. I'm here for a reason, which they didn't

0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 2>even really share. You know. They always show like cute

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:51.520
<v Speaker 2>pictures of people's families of like why they're there to

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 2>win the money. They didn't even show that.

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, there were seventy five of y'all there, it'd

0:27:58.720 --> 0:27:59.880
<v Speaker 1>be three hour episodes.

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 2>That's very true. That's very true. Touche Devin, touche.

0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:04.920
<v Speaker 3>What what are you fighting for?

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's just you'll see this little orange pin that

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm wearing always in my on my overalls or you'll

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:14.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of start to see it. And I've just become

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:17.359
<v Speaker 2>obsessed with the idea that we can radically change the

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 2>farming world, and we have to do that soon because

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:23.640
<v Speaker 2>it's directly impacting our environment in detrimental ways. We might

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:25.919
<v Speaker 2>not even have food growing in four years because of

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 2>soil health. So it's joinpeel dot com and it's an

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 2>ag tech platform that connects growers to buyers and buyers

0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:34.680
<v Speaker 2>to growers, and it's so dope and it really helps

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 2>us understand where food comes from. Accessibility, food, sovereignty, but

0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 2>tech is not cheap. So it's just been like this

0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:46.320
<v Speaker 2>mountain as an entrepreneur. But I obviously, like I'm understanding

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 2>why they didn't show it because of the way what

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:51.480
<v Speaker 2>I just said, like that's too much time, too much

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 2>time for them to put in an episode more of

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 2>the story, Like our food is so important, it's everything,

0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 2>and I was in the fitness nutrition world for so

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 2>long and and think about how food is grown and

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 2>if we don't think about that, we're gonna have a

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 2>shelf life and we have to start thinking about it.

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 1>I love that, cause is that something that you and

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Brad connected over?

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Brad and I connected. This story is so good. I

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 2>came to the show with ten pounds of my suitcase

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 2>being oracle decks and Tarot decks and all my stage

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 2>and all my crystals, right, so I had this huge box.

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:30.920
<v Speaker 2>It's like treasure chest. And I always would do these

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 2>like full moon readings or a New Moon reading. And

0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 2>I sat down with Brad and this is before you like,

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, he's cute. I mean, he really is kind

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 2>of my ex and new form like Brad biceps beard.

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 2>I clearly have a type that I didn't know about.

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 2>But I pulled him a card and it was this frequency.

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Have you guys played around a sound healing or sound

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:56.160
<v Speaker 2>frequency or sound baths? Have you ever heard of that before?

0:29:56.960 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 2>There's these beautiful things that are popping up called sound

0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 2>where sound healing is like this ancient, It's been around forever.

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 2>It is just truth. Like when you are injured, like

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:10.479
<v Speaker 2>if your neck hurts and you put frequency next to it,

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 2>it heals it. And so Brad, Brad didn't tell me this,

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 2>but I pulled this card and it was five hundred

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 2>and twenty eight Herts. That was the card and I

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 2>started reading it and he freaked out. He runs, He's

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 2>like I need this right now. I'm like, what's going on?

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 2>He comes back. He has a five twenty eight Hurts

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 2>tuning fork that he has brought to the location. So

0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 2>we like had this moment of oh my god, we

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 2>just connected on a soul harm level. So we started

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 2>like we would just be on top of each other

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:42.920
<v Speaker 2>in bed, like putting this tuning fork on each other's

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 2>body parts. We would have so much fun. We were

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 2>so weird talking about everything that nobody else in the

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 2>house wanted to talk about.

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh I love that for you did you run your

0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:57.200
<v Speaker 1>fingers through his beard.

0:30:57.520 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Of course I would braid it, and then I would

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 2>put like little Viking dread beard, you know how like

0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Vikings have, like it's strings and things. I was like,

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 2>let's just put little decorations. It's challenged.

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 1>You beating his beard. I'm so cute. I think it's cute.

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I was surprised to see that matchup initially, but it

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 1>sounds you guys sound freaking adorable. Have you seen him?

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Have you driven that van? Has it driven to Brad's house?

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Since the show has ended?

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 2>It has not, But we have connected a few times.

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, we just randomly call each other and I

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 2>know we'll see each other at some point. I mean,

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:38.480
<v Speaker 2>it's just fun. He's helping me figure out a dirt

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 2>bike to get because I also ride motorcycles. So there's

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 2>just like a lot of good, good energy.

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 3>I like that. I like that a lot. Shout out

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 3>to Bread. I think it's I think I support the movement. Yeah,

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:53.680
<v Speaker 3>I want to get into these targets because gre you

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 3>nominated yourself. I know, and I want to know. This

0:31:57.680 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 3>season has been very much so with a Josh, We're

0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 3>not gonna play with my friend like that. But this

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 3>season has been very much so, uh, I'll do it.

0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll do it.

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Why let me talk you through it. So first things first,

0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 2>I have built my reputation on not being scared and

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:17.520
<v Speaker 2>going in when I need to go in right. I

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 2>will always face the challenge if it comes, and that's

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 2>what I love about myself. That's why I show up

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 2>to the challenge because I want to be scared. I

0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:25.200
<v Speaker 2>don't want to just sit on the sidelines. So I

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 2>was starting to get a little bit bored, you know,

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:31.840
<v Speaker 2>like there's only so much you can just cheer on

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:34.200
<v Speaker 2>for other people, and it's like, at some point I'm

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 2>gonna have to play, right. We know that's the case.

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 2>The second thing is a viv volunteered herself already, that

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 2>was the first thing that she did. Then Kara gets

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 2>put in already, and then Laura got picked as a target,

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 2>so there really isn't anybody else that needs to claim

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 2>the spot. Like, if I'm looking at what is fair,

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:54.880
<v Speaker 2>which is how I look at everything, that it's my turn.

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 2>And then the third thing is Derek, who is the

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:04.200
<v Speaker 2>Leonardo DiCaprio gladiator of the show. I have such mad

0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 2>respect for him, all of his energy It's just so

0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 2>about the start of my own challenge career. When I

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 2>first got to the challenge cutthroat. Both times I went

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 2>into elimination were with Derek, and both times the way

0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:23.400
<v Speaker 2>he is you guys know this, but also in person

0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:27.880
<v Speaker 2>that's amplified the prep for it the day before, all

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:31.640
<v Speaker 2>of that energy, Like we are the same, you know,

0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 2>we trained the same, We're warriors. And so to watch

0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 2>him do what he's doing, you know, it's not the

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 2>first time, it's the second time he's doing this. I

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 2>get so fired up. I can't even hold it in.

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 2>And then he's asking for a volunteer. Of course I'm

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 2>gonna do it. It's just like everything made sense for

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 2>me to do it. There was no way I wasn't

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 2>going to do it, and I get it doesn't make sense,

0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 2>and Brad said it was silly. Brad and I had

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 2>a huge thing. He was so pissed, And this is

0:33:57.320 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 2>when we started to start, you know, realizing we had

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 2>differences and it maybe was no longer cute to start

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:06.840
<v Speaker 2>making out. You know, like he was so upset about

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:08.880
<v Speaker 2>it because he knew it was his turn soon to

0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:11.719
<v Speaker 2>volunteer or not. So he was seeing me as a

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 2>way of like, damn, if she did that, that means

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:17.319
<v Speaker 2>I have to and that's not good for my game.

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:19.400
<v Speaker 2>And so we started butting heads in that department.

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:21.839
<v Speaker 1>That's why the van hasn't gone to visit Brad. There

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:24.880
<v Speaker 1>we go. Now we figured it out. That is why.

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Because our girl is a leader, not a follower. She

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:31.719
<v Speaker 1>does not play a scared game. Did you ever think

0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 1>when you were volunteering that Laurel would throw your team

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 1>under the bus to try and get rid of you?

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Truthfully, you all like why did we not start with that?

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:42.560
<v Speaker 2>Because why had heard rumors? But until I saw it,

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:46.319
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I still am like, no, because we're

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:50.320
<v Speaker 2>still early enough in the game. Maybe we're not. Actually

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:54.200
<v Speaker 2>do I blame her no, because that was a smart move, right,

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Like on her end, she knows the threat I hold, right,

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:00.839
<v Speaker 2>so like it was a smart move. I just think

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:04.840
<v Speaker 2>I hate it because of the amount of times I

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 2>try to have a conversation with her, the amount of

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 2>times I tried to approach her. I knew something was

0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 2>about to go down before this challenge, and I would

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:15.799
<v Speaker 2>just say, hey, Laurel, let's talk. I don't want to talk,

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:19.280
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, oh, you know, like I know something's

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 2>going to go down, but like, I just want to

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:23.279
<v Speaker 2>get to this person. I just want to have a

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 2>normal conversation of like I am here for a really

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 2>big reason. I've been gone for a really long time.

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 2>Give me a longer time to play, like give me

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:36.319
<v Speaker 2>game time. And the fact that she had that much

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 2>control over my game time so sucks. It's the worst

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 2>part of this format, you know, like the twists and

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 2>the target and the ability for anybody to throw a

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:51.000
<v Speaker 2>challenge made this really hard because I am very much

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:54.319
<v Speaker 2>just like here to play, to compete to win, right,

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:58.280
<v Speaker 2>And it's in to have this other dynamic of like, wow,

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 2>someone that I really do when she's good, I really

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:05.280
<v Speaker 2>do respect her. She has like you guys know, Laurel,

0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:09.480
<v Speaker 2>she's the most stunning beautiful. She's a swan. She is

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:11.800
<v Speaker 2>like if I could put her into an animal archetype.

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:14.440
<v Speaker 2>She's like such a swan and you want her on

0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:16.400
<v Speaker 2>your team. That's why Car and her go back and

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:18.920
<v Speaker 2>forth all the time. But like when she's not in

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 2>a good place, which this challenge she clearly wasn't, it's awful.

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:27.040
<v Speaker 2>It's like a swan under threat is horrible. I was

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 2>attacked by a swan when I was like four, I

0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 2>wanted to pet it and it attacked me, and I

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:32.759
<v Speaker 2>was just like, that's what Laurel.

0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Was not be attacked by a swan Emily like the

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:39.120
<v Speaker 1>layers just keep.

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 2>I swear that's this visual I have where it's just like, damn,

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:45.399
<v Speaker 2>just and I wish they didn't even show the best

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:47.960
<v Speaker 2>parts of this challenge. Johnny and I were on the

0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:50.879
<v Speaker 2>hardest parts of this challenge. So this beam that we're

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:54.439
<v Speaker 2>carrying through the forest, we were on the why part

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:57.839
<v Speaker 2>of it, and it was so heavy and I ended

0:36:57.920 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 2>up getting pretty intense migraine from the amount I hit

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:06.759
<v Speaker 2>the trees, Like there's I hit probably four times high

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:11.560
<v Speaker 2>hard impact trees tripping, Like the amount of effort right

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:15.080
<v Speaker 2>of like I'm at stake, I'm going all in on this.

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:18.279
<v Speaker 2>There was so much sweat and energy and tears for

0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Johnny and I. Johnny really really efforted, and he was

0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:24.359
<v Speaker 2>fighting for me. I mean, like he will always fight

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:26.719
<v Speaker 2>for me and I because I will protect him. So

0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 2>it was just super sucky to like feel that I

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:33.239
<v Speaker 2>was betrayed in some ways and then to watch it

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 2>and be like, damn, she really just like she probably

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 2>also was tired, she was out of shape. You know,

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:38.799
<v Speaker 2>she knew that.

0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:42.319
<v Speaker 1>Not she rationalizing bad behavior. Wait did you you said

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 1>you heard rumors that that that was the case, that

0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:46.719
<v Speaker 1>she was sabotaging. Did you hear them in the house

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 1>or was this after? Like I was going and.

0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:51.799
<v Speaker 2>I tried to do the prep work, you know, like

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm not great at strategy, but I'm not bad, you know,

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:57.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm able to really have the right conversations, and

0:37:57.560 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 2>when it comes down to it, the only threat I

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 2>really saw. I knew each person would be tough individually

0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 2>depending on the case, but like for me at the

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:08.680
<v Speaker 2>end of the final it's really going to be Laurel

0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 2>and Carr that I'm worried about.

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Really truly, I feel like you're sleeping on some people.

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Probably interesting watching them after this new challenges like in person,

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:20.080
<v Speaker 2>watching the way they're training, watching the way they're eating,

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 2>watching hearing their stories, like I can do the math,

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:28.160
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't need to worry about that persones Like

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:30.840
<v Speaker 2>so it's really it's not even like just me looking

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 2>at them. It's like, oh no, like any day, like

0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:37.319
<v Speaker 2>I would feel very confident in how I would feel

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:38.760
<v Speaker 2>about going against them in a final.

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's so fascinating because I hear what you're saying,

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:43.800
<v Speaker 1>and obviously they're beasts. But I think there are some people,

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:46.800
<v Speaker 1>and we don't know how the season plays out because

0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I purposely avoid spoilers, but there are some people who

0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:55.279
<v Speaker 1>play like even CT has been described it this way,

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:57.879
<v Speaker 1>certainly in some of the more recent seasons, where even

0:38:57.880 --> 0:38:59.880
<v Speaker 1>if you're watching them in the game, even if you do,

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:04.480
<v Speaker 1>they don't become activated until they hit a certain benchmark.

0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:04.799
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 1>It's like Laurel and car are the loudest, but some

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 1>people play less of a loud or an obvious game.

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'm seeing it from like the physical standpoint, And

0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 2>at this point, I already know that Laurel doesn't have endurance, right,

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 2>I already know that I would be fine in a

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:24.319
<v Speaker 2>in a final with her and it would come down

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:27.879
<v Speaker 2>to puzzles and look, but like I really I kind

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:31.400
<v Speaker 2>of stand by that, Like I would feel really confident

0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 2>with anybody knowing of course there's always a mixed bag

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 2>of stuff and.

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Write some hammer and nails somewhere, right.

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:42.160
<v Speaker 2>But like the true like feeling I had was like

0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:45.360
<v Speaker 2>the only threat I feel is with the people that

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 2>are on my team. So to have that energy on

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 2>my team, to be preparing for the whole challenge in

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 2>that way and then realizing they're on my team, it

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:57.560
<v Speaker 2>made me so excited because it's like, look what we

0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:00.200
<v Speaker 2>can do and how far we can get and and

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 2>then to see Laurel do what she did, it felt

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:05.160
<v Speaker 2>too soon, you know, and it wasn't. That was a

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 2>brilliant strategy move, but it was like, fuck, I wanted

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 2>so badly to play longer with this.

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 1>But also eating your own team is risky because you

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:17.239
<v Speaker 1>don't know what these team activities are going to be

0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:20.040
<v Speaker 1>and so you know you're potentially putting your team at

0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 1>a disadvantage.

0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, we want bodies, right, You want bodies because you

0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 2>need diversity, and who's going target? If not, it's just

0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:31.120
<v Speaker 2>you target on me, target, you target me target. So

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:33.799
<v Speaker 2>even having three, even having four, you take off the

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 2>pressure week for week. So uh yeah, there was no

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:43.040
<v Speaker 2>way that that was like in in my awareness. And

0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:44.880
<v Speaker 2>what I had found out is as soon as I

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:48.480
<v Speaker 2>saw so the conversations I had were with Johnny and Jordan, like,

0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 2>I know you guys have strong relationships with Laura, but

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:53.960
<v Speaker 2>I need you to know that she's coming after me.

0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:56.400
<v Speaker 2>I see it in the way she watches me. I

0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 2>see it in the way that she's talking to me.

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:00.480
<v Speaker 2>I see I just know. There was so much weird

0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 2>signs that I can tell you guys, like weird ass

0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 2>things would happen with Ryan and I and I'm like, oh,

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:09.359
<v Speaker 2>she is about to go down, and both of them

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:12.720
<v Speaker 2>are like, no, no, no, she wouldn't. She wouldn't, she wouldn't,

0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:18.080
<v Speaker 2>and she did. Finally saw Johnny at our fun La event.

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:20.759
<v Speaker 2>It was like, He's like, Emily, you can't even believe it.

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:24.479
<v Speaker 2>She did it on purpose. Oh my god, I.

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Know, Johnny, You're like, duh, what were the things that

0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:30.440
<v Speaker 1>you noticed? Yeah, what was happened she was doing?

0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 3>Like what were the so.

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:35.879
<v Speaker 2>Just very she wouldn't. She would avoid eye contact. Number one,

0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:39.279
<v Speaker 2>avoiding eye contact at all costs, which like really bothers me,

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, like to all of a sudden have engaged

0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:44.839
<v Speaker 2>in conversation and all of a sudden you're distant and

0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:47.479
<v Speaker 2>you're just kind of being You just know something's up.

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:51.040
<v Speaker 2>The second thing was because we were in Vietnam and

0:41:51.080 --> 0:41:54.040
<v Speaker 2>there's so much energy in Vietnam, like bad shit has

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 2>happened in Vietnam, right, like really horrible things. And so

0:41:57.680 --> 0:42:00.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm always trying to like leave flowers and altars, and

0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:04.399
<v Speaker 2>so I left this like pretty altar every morning at

0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:07.160
<v Speaker 2>this outdoor place. And when we were walking out for

0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:11.680
<v Speaker 2>the challenge, this is crazy. All in replace of the

0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:16.280
<v Speaker 2>flower was a massive pragmantis, like huge, and the exact

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:19.719
<v Speaker 2>same place is this. I know, this gets strange. So

0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm an animal person. Ryan's an animal, like all the

0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:24.840
<v Speaker 2>animal people kind of come around. So Laurel and I

0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:28.440
<v Speaker 2>are looking at this pragmantis. I have a thing for pragmantiss.

0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 2>I think they're like my good luck charm. They show

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:33.799
<v Speaker 2>up in weird places, like yesterday one landed on my

0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:36.680
<v Speaker 2>porch and I was like, yes, you know, like I

0:42:36.719 --> 0:42:40.759
<v Speaker 2>get super excited about it. This pragmantis straight up. I

0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:44.760
<v Speaker 2>wish I could show this on audio because like the mountain,

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 2>he looked at Laurel, he just did this crazy creepy

0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:51.280
<v Speaker 2>this is a big pregnantis. He goes and just stares

0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:54.880
<v Speaker 2>at her, and I laughed so hard because I knew.

0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 2>I was like, she's not She's gonna do something fucked

0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:00.279
<v Speaker 2>up today. And he's like, are you gonna do something

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:02.480
<v Speaker 2>fucked up today. So the whole time leading up to

0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:06.400
<v Speaker 2>this church, even on the way walking into TJ, I

0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:08.759
<v Speaker 2>look at her and I'm like, you don't pretend to

0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 2>be a pragmantis.

0:43:09.840 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Wait not you made praying Manta's hands at Laurel and.

0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 3>Little bit did it?

0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 1>You know?

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Because I think she had a choice, and I know

0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:20.560
<v Speaker 2>she feels guilty, but she knew what she was doing.

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 2>And I just like, God, I can't wait to get

0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:24.960
<v Speaker 2>to that reunion because it's just I just want to

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:27.680
<v Speaker 2>understand why. You know, It's just it's an interesting thing.

0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 2>If she keeps throwing around the word respect. We can't

0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 2>be throwing that word around with her conversations with Kara

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 2>and do what she did, right, Like, there's just no way.

0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:39.960
<v Speaker 3>All right, we have to take a quick break, but

0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:41.200
<v Speaker 3>be right back after that.

0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:49.359
<v Speaker 1>Ooh okay, let's get back into the show.

0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:52.720
<v Speaker 3>I would like to know, and we're gonna jumping around,

0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:53.880
<v Speaker 3>but I just want to since you brought it up,

0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:56.360
<v Speaker 3>I want to get straight into it. Let's take away

0:43:56.840 --> 0:44:01.520
<v Speaker 3>anything that may have happened before with Lara and Laurel, right,

0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:05.919
<v Speaker 3>and just this one isolated incident, right, this big blow

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:08.600
<v Speaker 3>up as you're watching it as a viewer, who do

0:44:08.680 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 3>you think started that?

0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:17.479
<v Speaker 2>It's just interesting because there was behind the scenes of

0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Laurel starting to hear Kara talking to Ryan or Kara

0:44:21.280 --> 0:44:24.319
<v Speaker 2>talking to me, and so she was already really revved up.

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Like Laurel doesn't want to be seen badly, like she

0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:29.560
<v Speaker 2>doesn't want to be called a fool, she doesn't want

0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:33.480
<v Speaker 2>to be seen in a negative way, and it's an

0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:36.960
<v Speaker 2>interesting dynamic. So but on screen, what people saw was

0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Kara coming up to Laurel and starting that, right, That's

0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:43.799
<v Speaker 2>that's what happened. And I think it was kind of

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:47.200
<v Speaker 2>an accumulation of four or five days of back and

0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:51.480
<v Speaker 2>forth in weird remarks from Laurel slash passive aggressive kind

0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:54.600
<v Speaker 2>of commentary that finally led to Kara feeling as if

0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:58.040
<v Speaker 2>she needed to stand up and do something and somewhat

0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 2>protect Michelle because there was an issue that happened where

0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:06.240
<v Speaker 2>Laurel ultimately made Michelle cry after this whole conversation happened,

0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:10.320
<v Speaker 2>so Michelle's crying and upset and it got more nasty,

0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:12.560
<v Speaker 2>and so Kara saw that as a way to comment

0:45:12.640 --> 0:45:14.719
<v Speaker 2>Laurel and be like, you can't do this. You can't

0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:15.719
<v Speaker 2>talk to people this way.

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna just keep my mouth shut.

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:21.279
<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, day, Yeah, what are your what are you

0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:25.080
<v Speaker 3>what are your overall thoughts of the Kara Laurel situation?

0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:29.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, objectively, like, yeah, because you're wise, your empathy, yeah,

0:45:29.880 --> 0:45:34.120
<v Speaker 1>you're you know, you're on the right frequencies. But so

0:45:34.200 --> 0:45:36.279
<v Speaker 1>take out the fact that she sabotaged you in the game.

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:37.759
<v Speaker 1>Let's put that to the side for the second and

0:45:37.760 --> 0:45:38.600
<v Speaker 1>then we'll pick it back up.

0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think I said it best. And it's like

0:45:41.520 --> 0:45:43.799
<v Speaker 2>the Karma vote for Kara is three because she still

0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:46.160
<v Speaker 2>has a part to play, right, So, like there is

0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:49.800
<v Speaker 2>something that's happening that there's not one party is innocent,

0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 2>and there's not good and there's not bad. There's just

0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:58.080
<v Speaker 2>these two very dynamic people who probably at their core

0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:00.879
<v Speaker 2>are like secretly in love with each other slash. They

0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:04.239
<v Speaker 2>definitely have made out and there's this tension that they

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:08.520
<v Speaker 2>want each other's respect. But it's true that Laurel feels

0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:10.880
<v Speaker 2>as if she has to coach Kara because I was

0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:16.240
<v Speaker 2>on trivia with Caara high up forty feet She's about

0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:18.960
<v Speaker 2>to drop and her anxiety is real. Right, I want

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:20.920
<v Speaker 2>to be there for her because she's on my team.

0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:24.239
<v Speaker 2>She's freaking out, but it rubs off on you. You know,

0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:27.239
<v Speaker 2>when you're around someone that is really freaking out and

0:46:27.280 --> 0:46:31.439
<v Speaker 2>you're doing your best to be the calm, cool, collected one,

0:46:31.680 --> 0:46:34.880
<v Speaker 2>but it ultimately it's them two playing out the rescuer

0:46:35.000 --> 0:46:39.760
<v Speaker 2>victim complex. That's so annoying. It's just a constant battle

0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:40.719
<v Speaker 2>of this archetype.

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:43.799
<v Speaker 1>Right. What was interesting to me is neither of them

0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:46.279
<v Speaker 1>are really walking away. Although Laurel did walk away, it

0:46:46.280 --> 0:46:48.120
<v Speaker 1>looks like to put together her sandwich at one point,

0:46:48.160 --> 0:46:52.319
<v Speaker 1>but then Laura walked back towards Kara again and like engaged,

0:46:52.480 --> 0:46:57.200
<v Speaker 1>and neither Like anyone listening, you always have the ability

0:46:57.239 --> 0:46:59.760
<v Speaker 1>to walk away, or when you do have the ability

0:46:59.760 --> 0:47:02.200
<v Speaker 1>to physically walk, just walk away.

0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:05.640
<v Speaker 3>Agree with you. And to add on to that, because

0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:08.960
<v Speaker 3>if you notice, Kara was very much so in it,

0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:13.680
<v Speaker 3>in it and she started laughing the moment Laurel started cussing.

0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:16.440
<v Speaker 3>Once she it was like, oh god.

0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Once she got her to that play and once she

0:47:18.000 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 1>knew she can.

0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:20.080
<v Speaker 3>That's what they wait for. They wait for the moment

0:47:20.120 --> 0:47:21.759
<v Speaker 3>when they when they got you. Once they have you,

0:47:22.000 --> 0:47:24.600
<v Speaker 3>then it's like, okay, cool, we are here now. Now

0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:30.120
<v Speaker 3>we are here exactly just like crying, don't and we

0:47:30.200 --> 0:47:30.880
<v Speaker 3>go talk about that.

0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:33.520
<v Speaker 2>This is the final thing I'll say about it, because

0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:35.560
<v Speaker 2>to ultimately, these two have taken away too much real

0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:38.759
<v Speaker 2>estate in all of these people's lives, like truthfully, and

0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:41.120
<v Speaker 2>this is where I because so car is a cancer

0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:43.879
<v Speaker 2>moon and I'm too a cancer moon. So I very

0:47:43.960 --> 0:47:47.840
<v Speaker 2>much am empathetic to her nurturing and her needs. Laurel,

0:47:47.880 --> 0:47:49.919
<v Speaker 2>I know her whole astrology, right, so I can't. I've

0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:51.600
<v Speaker 2>gone deep into this rabbit hole.

0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:53.719
<v Speaker 1>Where hilarious and I love you, Emily. I just have

0:47:53.800 --> 0:47:55.400
<v Speaker 1>to say that I love that You're like, Okay, not

0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:57.800
<v Speaker 1>only was I sizing them up, but I was sizing

0:47:57.800 --> 0:47:59.640
<v Speaker 1>them up. I know their natal chart, I know where

0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:01.879
<v Speaker 1>they were or what time da da da. I can't

0:48:01.920 --> 0:48:03.120
<v Speaker 1>beat them all I.

0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Could except the one person I know. This is why

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:08.400
<v Speaker 2>karma hit me in the ass is because they're this

0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:11.440
<v Speaker 2>in human design. There is a thing called a manifestor,

0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:13.719
<v Speaker 2>and they're very rare type. But if they know they're

0:48:13.719 --> 0:48:16.680
<v Speaker 2>a manifestor, they can make shit happen. And I was like,

0:48:17.440 --> 0:48:19.560
<v Speaker 2>I told Rachel, I go, there's one manifestor in the house,

0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:21.080
<v Speaker 2>and I'm not going to tell that person she's a

0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:22.600
<v Speaker 2>manifestor and guess who.

0:48:22.760 --> 0:48:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Is way, but how did they know? Do they know? Okay,

0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:26.879
<v Speaker 1>and know we're getting off track, But now my like,

0:48:27.160 --> 0:48:29.640
<v Speaker 1>can you become a man? Are you like born a manifestor?

0:48:29.760 --> 0:48:30.080
<v Speaker 1>How does?

0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:33.600
<v Speaker 2>It's just like your natal chart? So it's human design

0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:38.880
<v Speaker 2>is astrology plus the chakra system plus Myers Briggs plus

0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:41.440
<v Speaker 2>like all of it in one. So I was getting

0:48:41.520 --> 0:48:44.480
<v Speaker 2>every single person's human design that I knew I cared about.

0:48:44.680 --> 0:48:47.640
<v Speaker 2>I was like, because I know mine and I will win.

0:48:47.719 --> 0:48:52.440
<v Speaker 2>There's like my chart is like competitor warrior winner, Like yes.

0:48:52.400 --> 0:48:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh my god, we are getting on a call

0:48:53.960 --> 0:48:56.279
<v Speaker 1>after this, Emily, because I have so many questions. I

0:48:56.280 --> 0:48:57.359
<v Speaker 1>want to know all the things.

0:48:57.440 --> 0:48:59.040
<v Speaker 2>E then this is what I do. I would love

0:48:59.120 --> 0:49:01.600
<v Speaker 2>to do that. Because with Laurel, I saw her chart

0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:03.440
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh, this is why she's threatened

0:49:03.480 --> 0:49:06.319
<v Speaker 2>by I mean, because she she doesn't have what I

0:49:06.480 --> 0:49:09.560
<v Speaker 2>have and she knows it. So there was this element

0:49:09.680 --> 0:49:12.319
<v Speaker 2>that I was just like, oh, this is game on.

0:49:12.800 --> 0:49:15.520
<v Speaker 2>So I know that that was what she felt. And

0:49:15.560 --> 0:49:18.000
<v Speaker 2>then I watched it because I could see like, Okay,

0:49:18.040 --> 0:49:20.759
<v Speaker 2>this is similar right to watch Cara and Laurel. It's

0:49:20.800 --> 0:49:24.000
<v Speaker 2>the same way as watching Laurel and Michelle. But Laurel's

0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:27.399
<v Speaker 2>smart with me too, right, So I'm just observing. And

0:49:27.880 --> 0:49:30.560
<v Speaker 2>when this is where it gets hard is because Cara

0:49:30.680 --> 0:49:33.759
<v Speaker 2>so desperately did want the friendship. You saw it in

0:49:33.800 --> 0:49:36.839
<v Speaker 2>this episode there all of a sudden they're talking shit

0:49:36.920 --> 0:49:38.120
<v Speaker 2>on each other, and then all of a sudden they're

0:49:38.120 --> 0:49:41.200
<v Speaker 2>playing back and forth ping pong, and and this element

0:49:41.239 --> 0:49:43.920
<v Speaker 2>of like this door is starting to open and then snaps,

0:49:43.920 --> 0:49:48.000
<v Speaker 2>door starts over it. It's so toxic, it's so terrible,

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:50.960
<v Speaker 2>and it is just like a relationship right when you

0:49:51.400 --> 0:49:53.359
<v Speaker 2>are like, oh, we just went through this horrible thing,

0:49:53.480 --> 0:49:56.399
<v Speaker 2>but I'm gonna be able to get through it because look,

0:49:56.400 --> 0:49:58.920
<v Speaker 2>they're so nice and so kind and then all and

0:49:58.960 --> 0:50:01.760
<v Speaker 2>it just doesn't change because neither of them are looking

0:50:01.800 --> 0:50:03.480
<v Speaker 2>at why it happened in the first place. So it

0:50:03.600 --> 0:50:07.520
<v Speaker 2>was just awful to watch. And I really hope, you know, truthfully,

0:50:07.560 --> 0:50:09.840
<v Speaker 2>like of Eve and I both didn't know how to

0:50:09.920 --> 0:50:13.560
<v Speaker 2>navigate it as the other females on the team, and

0:50:13.800 --> 0:50:15.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, challenge spit me out. So I don't have

0:50:15.640 --> 0:50:17.560
<v Speaker 2>much else to say about it, you know, it's like

0:50:17.600 --> 0:50:20.640
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have anything else to go with. But it

0:50:20.719 --> 0:50:21.320
<v Speaker 2>was interesting.

0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Were any of the boys manifestors or just Tina, Like

0:50:24.680 --> 0:50:27.440
<v Speaker 1>was literally Twina the only one in Anna is the only.

0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:28.920
<v Speaker 2>One in the house. And that's what I kept telling her.

0:50:28.960 --> 0:50:31.960
<v Speaker 2>I was like, you have to know this about yourself

0:50:32.000 --> 0:50:34.400
<v Speaker 2>because and she that's why she cried when she was like,

0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm so sad Emily's leaving.

0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Because yeah, that was sweet.

0:50:37.400 --> 0:50:40.359
<v Speaker 2>That was so sweet because how many people, especially knowing

0:50:40.360 --> 0:50:43.880
<v Speaker 2>my elimination, you know, I've never lost. I'm a tough competitor.

0:50:44.000 --> 0:50:47.080
<v Speaker 2>So many people could have taken that and just like

0:50:47.200 --> 0:50:49.719
<v Speaker 2>thrown it into my face, especially Tina, like.

0:50:49.719 --> 0:50:52.000
<v Speaker 3>She doesn't care, like who are you, like, get out

0:50:52.000 --> 0:50:52.279
<v Speaker 3>of here.

0:50:52.960 --> 0:50:55.480
<v Speaker 2>And the fact that she said that was really sweet

0:50:55.600 --> 0:50:58.320
<v Speaker 2>because I know that she means it, and I also

0:50:58.520 --> 0:51:01.279
<v Speaker 2>want her to realize, you know, like hopefully from this

0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:04.319
<v Speaker 2>point forward. And it's hard because when you get with

0:51:04.360 --> 0:51:07.799
<v Speaker 2>other energies and fear comes in. This is the week

0:51:07.800 --> 0:51:10.360
<v Speaker 2>where it really started. This is the week where people

0:51:10.440 --> 0:51:13.640
<v Speaker 2>started to get paranoid shifts. We really saw it with

0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:16.080
<v Speaker 2>John Nay and Johnny said to the team, Yeah, it

0:51:16.160 --> 0:51:18.719
<v Speaker 2>was gonna volunteer, Yeah, everyone was like it's your turn,

0:51:18.719 --> 0:51:20.600
<v Speaker 2>It's your turn, and she's like okay. They had this

0:51:20.680 --> 0:51:23.840
<v Speaker 2>team huddle and then she freaked out. I mean she

0:51:23.960 --> 0:51:27.200
<v Speaker 2>was running around like crazy and really paranoid and just

0:51:27.200 --> 0:51:31.040
<v Speaker 2>to watch how fast this game can turn you on

0:51:31.080 --> 0:51:35.320
<v Speaker 2>your head was like whoa, these this is nuts.

0:51:35.560 --> 0:51:38.239
<v Speaker 1>So everyone in the in the house, it sounds like

0:51:38.280 --> 0:51:42.279
<v Speaker 1>then was aware of the conversation between Johnny and her

0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:46.600
<v Speaker 1>team around like oh I should nominate so then how

0:51:47.000 --> 0:51:49.960
<v Speaker 1>And she seems so confident that Neamayah, Like it's interesting

0:51:50.000 --> 0:51:51.600
<v Speaker 1>knowing that Paul House knew that because she seemed so

0:51:51.680 --> 0:51:55.400
<v Speaker 1>confident that Neiaomiah wouldn't put her in, and Niamyah did

0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:58.120
<v Speaker 1>what do you what's your interpretation? Do you think he

0:51:58.160 --> 0:52:01.200
<v Speaker 1>did it? Ever she was supposed to like, yeah.

0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Well it's interesting. I guess I will say it's about Nimiah,

0:52:03.160 --> 0:52:06.440
<v Speaker 2>like I love him to death, like I really do.

0:52:07.640 --> 0:52:09.760
<v Speaker 2>We have so much fun because he's the one putting

0:52:10.160 --> 0:52:12.680
<v Speaker 2>rocks in my pocket and doing reyki on me, you know,

0:52:12.800 --> 0:52:15.239
<v Speaker 2>like very we had such a good connection. I was

0:52:15.280 --> 0:52:18.319
<v Speaker 2>so proud of him. The day of our elimination, we

0:52:18.400 --> 0:52:20.760
<v Speaker 2>both had like you know, we know the right outcome

0:52:20.800 --> 0:52:24.920
<v Speaker 2>is going to happen like whatever, but in that elimination room,

0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:27.600
<v Speaker 2>and this is the example of what happened with him

0:52:27.680 --> 0:52:30.520
<v Speaker 2>just getting frazzled and picking John a like I don't

0:52:30.520 --> 0:52:32.719
<v Speaker 2>think he knew what to do, and I didn't know

0:52:32.800 --> 0:52:34.719
<v Speaker 2>he would get like that until we were sitting in

0:52:34.760 --> 0:52:38.040
<v Speaker 2>the deliberation room and then seeing the clip of him

0:52:38.040 --> 0:52:41.480
<v Speaker 2>talking to Devin for me, I was like what and

0:52:41.520 --> 0:52:43.640
<v Speaker 2>then having Devin called me out and I was like,

0:52:43.760 --> 0:52:45.440
<v Speaker 2>the only thing I know how what to say to

0:52:45.480 --> 0:52:48.120
<v Speaker 2>defend myself is was I there? Because I knew none

0:52:48.160 --> 0:52:52.520
<v Speaker 2>of this was happening. I have never talked to Nehemiah

0:52:52.680 --> 0:52:55.400
<v Speaker 2>in a way of like who's our alliances outside of me?

0:52:55.520 --> 0:52:58.439
<v Speaker 2>And you you know, so I was pissed. I went

0:52:58.520 --> 0:52:59.920
<v Speaker 2>up to him and I was like, I love you,

0:53:00.520 --> 0:53:02.600
<v Speaker 2>but don't ever speak for me again. And he was like,

0:53:02.640 --> 0:53:04.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry, and it won't It's fine, and we

0:53:04.800 --> 0:53:07.680
<v Speaker 2>were good, but it was like, damn, I just think

0:53:07.719 --> 0:53:10.799
<v Speaker 2>sometimes in that pressure and he just beat ct, you know,

0:53:10.960 --> 0:53:13.840
<v Speaker 2>like he doesn't want to make anyone mad that he

0:53:13.880 --> 0:53:16.400
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have to, which is why I was the one

0:53:16.440 --> 0:53:18.400
<v Speaker 2>who whispered for him to vote in Jenny.

0:53:18.600 --> 0:53:19.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, oh you told him.

0:53:20.120 --> 0:53:21.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know if he listened to me, but

0:53:21.760 --> 0:53:23.719
<v Speaker 2>it was the only way to protect me Amaya from

0:53:23.719 --> 0:53:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Era four because Jenny had already called him in. So

0:53:27.239 --> 0:53:29.359
<v Speaker 2>it was like, oh, you called me, I'll call you.

0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:32.280
<v Speaker 2>You call me, I'll call you. So he called somebody

0:53:32.320 --> 0:53:34.840
<v Speaker 2>out on Era four that wasn't Jenny. It would have

0:53:34.920 --> 0:53:36.680
<v Speaker 2>just caused another person to be mad at him. So

0:53:36.800 --> 0:53:38.719
<v Speaker 2>I was like, you gotta do Jenny. So I could

0:53:38.760 --> 0:53:41.759
<v Speaker 2>tell he hadn't thought about it. He hadn't thought if

0:53:41.760 --> 0:53:44.759
<v Speaker 2>I win, if I come back, who am I going

0:53:44.840 --> 0:53:47.080
<v Speaker 2>to call? So when Johnny was just already on the

0:53:47.120 --> 0:53:49.359
<v Speaker 2>spot and doing that, you know, I think you see

0:53:49.360 --> 0:53:53.400
<v Speaker 2>her face, She's like it was just like a target, target, target, Like,

0:53:53.520 --> 0:53:55.839
<v Speaker 2>let's just make this easy. Boom, that's the name he's

0:53:55.880 --> 0:53:58.760
<v Speaker 2>gonna call. But I really I am kind of surprised

0:53:58.800 --> 0:54:00.000
<v Speaker 2>because they did have a relationship.

0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Wow, I know, right, literally the whole thing. Wow.

0:54:05.239 --> 0:54:06.560
<v Speaker 2>I know, wow, I know.

0:54:06.880 --> 0:54:09.360
<v Speaker 3>You want to get into these era superlatives.

0:54:09.719 --> 0:54:11.399
<v Speaker 1>Yes day, let's get into these.

0:54:12.239 --> 0:54:15.480
<v Speaker 3>So what we do on the podcast is we allow

0:54:15.520 --> 0:54:18.560
<v Speaker 3>the guests to come on and give each era as

0:54:18.600 --> 0:54:22.479
<v Speaker 3>a whole, each era their own superlatives, so most likely

0:54:22.680 --> 0:54:26.439
<v Speaker 3>to do do dot. So let's start with Era one.

0:54:27.080 --> 0:54:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh, we already know they're most likely to spend all

0:54:31.680 --> 0:54:38.960
<v Speaker 2>their challenge money on pt O. They are so broken,

0:54:39.400 --> 0:54:41.840
<v Speaker 2>every single one of them. And I'm such a healer,

0:54:41.880 --> 0:54:45.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm like this touched it, you know, but

0:54:45.719 --> 0:54:49.000
<v Speaker 2>they all and I love it to you know, giving

0:54:49.000 --> 0:54:53.160
<v Speaker 2>them supplements and herbs, but like, damn, they are old.

0:54:54.280 --> 0:54:56.520
<v Speaker 1>You were hilarious.

0:54:57.520 --> 0:54:58.480
<v Speaker 3>Okay?

0:54:58.719 --> 0:55:04.439
<v Speaker 2>Era two, Oh, I mean to me, Era two by

0:55:04.520 --> 0:55:08.600
<v Speaker 2>far the most comprehensive team, you know, with Johnny and

0:55:08.640 --> 0:55:11.080
<v Speaker 2>with these women, the most experience.

0:55:11.440 --> 0:55:13.759
<v Speaker 1>That's not a most likely to be most likely to.

0:55:17.160 --> 0:55:19.720
<v Speaker 2>I have so many My mind's going six places because

0:55:19.800 --> 0:55:23.279
<v Speaker 2>my's I got betrayed by my team member, so I

0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:28.800
<v Speaker 2>have nothing positive to say. Most likely to betray.

0:55:29.080 --> 0:55:30.719
<v Speaker 3>Most likely to betray.

0:55:34.200 --> 0:55:39.160
<v Speaker 2>Era three, Oh, man, I'm bummed this is not a

0:55:39.200 --> 0:55:43.799
<v Speaker 2>most likely Most likely to kick out Corey Like Ory

0:55:43.840 --> 0:55:47.120
<v Speaker 2>shot himself in the foot so soon with Tony leaving,

0:55:47.200 --> 0:55:51.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, like I want Corey to have something to

0:55:51.719 --> 0:55:56.760
<v Speaker 2>stand with against this alliance that's happening, but it's his fault,

0:55:57.000 --> 0:56:00.080
<v Speaker 2>so it's like most likely to kick out Corey.

0:56:00.920 --> 0:56:03.200
<v Speaker 3>M okay Era four.

0:56:06.239 --> 0:56:06.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean.

0:56:08.840 --> 0:56:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Most likely there for screen time. Oh it's like, wow,

0:56:17.800 --> 0:56:20.480
<v Speaker 2>it's really hard to trust anybody from Era four. You know,

0:56:20.520 --> 0:56:22.680
<v Speaker 2>they got this big Brother vibe that's like a little

0:56:22.680 --> 0:56:25.399
<v Speaker 2>different than real world original vibe, you know what I'm saying.

0:56:25.520 --> 0:56:29.960
<v Speaker 2>And there was just always people in my healing corner

0:56:30.000 --> 0:56:32.719
<v Speaker 2>and be pulling cards. But you know who didn't get invited?

0:56:33.360 --> 0:56:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Almost all of Ara four?

0:56:35.719 --> 0:56:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, wait, not you didn't invite them, Not you

0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:42.760
<v Speaker 1>being a healer and you're selectively healing. Not even Kylin.

0:56:43.560 --> 0:56:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Kylon was the snakiest of them all day.

0:56:47.320 --> 0:56:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh wait what now, okay, spill wait because he has

0:56:50.520 --> 0:56:51.360
<v Speaker 1>such mixed.

0:56:51.120 --> 0:56:54.600
<v Speaker 3>Vibes big brother player, that's why?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait? Wait, why how did he give you snaky vibes?

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to us?

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<v Speaker 2>And straight up I like, I'm gonna energy person, right So,

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<v Speaker 2>and I knew, I do know that he's a cancer,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's sensitive, he's kind. But when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>the game, he knew right away he was gonna throw

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<v Speaker 2>me in the of my in and he wanted the

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<v Speaker 2>screen time. He wanted the moment. He wanted to like

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<v Speaker 2>extend all these conversations out so that he would get

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<v Speaker 2>a little extra TV time. And it was so snaky.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I will never ever side or trust

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<v Speaker 2>this person ever.

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<v Speaker 1>And what makes you think that he was doing it

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<v Speaker 1>just for the TV? Like or that he knew?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm gonna say this on Kylin's Behalf, right, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know you're talking to a big Brother player and so

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<v Speaker 1>you know she you know, it took us years to get.

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<v Speaker 3>On Kylin's Behalf. I I don't view Kylin as a

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<v Speaker 3>screen time type of person. What I think he was

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<v Speaker 3>doing was collecting data.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fair.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe Kylon was collecting information. He's he's very very smart,

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<v Speaker 3>very calculated. Single thing. If Kylan offers you breakfast, it's

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<v Speaker 3>breakfast with a purpose, there's motive behind it. He's very calculated.

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<v Speaker 3>So it definitely there was a reason behind it, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure Now anybody else I can't, I can't say that.

0:58:13.680 --> 0:58:16.480
<v Speaker 1>But for y'all Era four people do get called out

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<v Speaker 1>a bit for scream time. That's what I said. I

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<v Speaker 1>can only speak for Kyl coordinate.

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<v Speaker 3>I can only speak for Kylan.

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<v Speaker 2>It felt it felt so awful to like know that

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<v Speaker 2>they knew, but they didn't confirm it, right, Like, I

0:58:30.040 --> 0:58:33.120
<v Speaker 2>want to be prepared mentally and physically for an elimination,

0:58:33.240 --> 0:58:36.160
<v Speaker 2>and that makes it really hard when you don't know

0:58:36.200 --> 0:58:37.600
<v Speaker 2>if it's actually you going in.

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<v Speaker 1>So did they not tell you before the actual before

0:58:40.360 --> 0:58:43.680
<v Speaker 1>we saw it, you know, tj or So.

0:58:43.760 --> 0:58:46.920
<v Speaker 2>We went through the deliberation, they pretended that they didn't know.

0:58:47.000 --> 0:58:48.840
<v Speaker 2>I even said this to Olivia after. I was like,

0:58:48.880 --> 0:58:50.480
<v Speaker 2>it's just fucked up, because I know you know, and

0:58:50.520 --> 0:58:53.440
<v Speaker 2>she's like, no, I don't know. But Kylin wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>extend it because they wanted their little moment at the

0:58:56.520 --> 0:58:59.880
<v Speaker 2>bar that night. So Olivia gets more dressed up than

0:58:59.880 --> 0:59:03.520
<v Speaker 2>I ever seen her. Kylon looks so good. They bring

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<v Speaker 2>us over to a table. I was like, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>try to put me in a studio shot to get

0:59:08.240 --> 0:59:10.960
<v Speaker 2>a moment. Go fuck yourself. I know I'm going in.

0:59:11.000 --> 0:59:14.080
<v Speaker 2>We don't need to have this moment about it. Just

0:59:14.160 --> 0:59:17.360
<v Speaker 2>tell me the truth about it, you know. So they

0:59:17.400 --> 0:59:20.640
<v Speaker 2>wanted it to be something. I was like, cool, bye,

0:59:21.040 --> 0:59:26.400
<v Speaker 2>I gotta go get ready, jagged Emily, you are dropping

0:59:26.440 --> 0:59:27.000
<v Speaker 2>the tea.

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<v Speaker 1>The tee the tea. Yes, wait, okay, look, I know

0:59:32.240 --> 0:59:34.600
<v Speaker 1>we already did the ending. I have so many questions now,

0:59:34.800 --> 0:59:37.560
<v Speaker 1>this is okay, Okay, what are your thoughts? Then a

0:59:37.680 --> 0:59:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Michelle and Devin.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right right, well that I'll give you a little

0:59:41.280 --> 0:59:44.520
<v Speaker 2>more tea about this. So I loved this because it

0:59:44.600 --> 0:59:46.560
<v Speaker 2>was very similar to Brad and I, which was like

0:59:47.200 --> 0:59:49.920
<v Speaker 2>who's gonna commit on camera first?

0:59:50.320 --> 0:59:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:59:50.640 --> 0:59:53.600
<v Speaker 2>Like are we actually gonna have a showmance? Are we

0:59:53.800 --> 0:59:56.160
<v Speaker 2>really gonna be doing this? And I had this thing

0:59:56.160 --> 0:59:58.560
<v Speaker 2>with Brad and like, I'm not here to have a showmans,

0:59:58.600 --> 1:00:01.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm not here to like make people think we're about

1:00:01.520 --> 1:00:03.360
<v Speaker 2>to have babies, Like this is just a moment, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like let's just have a moment. Be discreet. But then

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<v Speaker 2>there was an element with Devin and Michelle where Devn's

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm going in, I'm I'm gonna commit and Michelle

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<v Speaker 2>was like what. So there was just watching them kind

1:00:16.360 --> 1:00:19.040
<v Speaker 2>of match each other where Devon's like you're gonna join

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<v Speaker 2>me or not? And that was super cute because it

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<v Speaker 2>made us like really see their process of like the

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<v Speaker 2>commitment issues of Michelle, the commitment of Devin, but also

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, dude, if you betray me, like if I

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<v Speaker 2>go all in on camera and then I get rejected

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<v Speaker 2>by her like all of that. So I love them

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<v Speaker 2>together because I think that they really do have this

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<v Speaker 2>like on show romance, that this situation brought them together.

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<v Speaker 2>They're funny, they're cute. Devin like, he's the only one

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<v Speaker 2>that I really wanted to talk to besides Jordan about

1:00:50.920 --> 1:00:54.840
<v Speaker 2>intellectual things, you know, so like helped me get through

1:00:55.040 --> 1:00:58.040
<v Speaker 2>the days of the challenge. That's not Sue, There's a

1:00:58.080 --> 1:01:00.520
<v Speaker 2>lot of really great people there, But as far as

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<v Speaker 2>business goes, that was fun for me to like just

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<v Speaker 2>shoot the shit with like creative projects with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Oh that's so fascinating. There, I can that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>It totally makes sense, all right, before we let you

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<v Speaker 1>go because I know we can't have you all that.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any other tea? Because you dropped a lot

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<v Speaker 1>with that whole Olivia Kylon getting dressed up for a

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<v Speaker 1>moment that they ultimately didn't get tea? So is there

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<v Speaker 1>any other tea? And that tea is a manifestor which

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent we're gonna be talking after this, any

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<v Speaker 1>other tea that we need to know that the fans

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<v Speaker 1>will love you for it.

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<v Speaker 2>God, they have so much tea, And I think part

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<v Speaker 2>of it is like even some of the prep work

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<v Speaker 2>of like Laurel trying to put a divide between me

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<v Speaker 2>and Johnny and some of these behind the scenes that

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<v Speaker 2>had happened that we're just testing and trying to like

1:01:46.520 --> 1:01:51.120
<v Speaker 2>really spoil and rotten the batch. Like it was just

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<v Speaker 2>so nice to like, if I would have stayed in

1:01:54.200 --> 1:01:56.480
<v Speaker 2>the game, I was so good, you know, I really

1:01:56.560 --> 1:01:58.320
<v Speaker 2>was gonna be good. I didn't have a lot of

1:01:58.360 --> 1:02:00.640
<v Speaker 2>people that were gonna call my name, and if I

1:02:00.640 --> 1:02:03.560
<v Speaker 2>did need to compete, that would have been okay. But

1:02:03.600 --> 1:02:05.680
<v Speaker 2>I was in a good situation because of the other

1:02:05.680 --> 1:02:08.360
<v Speaker 2>people on the team. So I think that's what was

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<v Speaker 2>interesting is watching like the tea I have is that

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<v Speaker 2>the people doing bad shit, trying to cause more drama

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<v Speaker 2>than needed, you know, so gosh all of it to me,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the overall is that the casting was dope.

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<v Speaker 2>I had so much fun coming back. I was so

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<v Speaker 2>upset to leave, you know, so soon, but I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have been more grateful being in that group of people,

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<v Speaker 2>with that environment. You know, it was really the right

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<v Speaker 2>challenge for me to come back and do so that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just stoked that the fans asked me to come back,

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<v Speaker 2>and that.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course now that you come back.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, maybe there's one in me maybe Challenge forty four

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<v Speaker 2>because you and day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, come on now, come now, come on now.

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<v Speaker 1>I thank you and day oh I think, but we

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<v Speaker 1>have to find out of days a manifesto. We are

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<v Speaker 1>still going to talk.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh brother, let me know.

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<v Speaker 2>I have lots of fun human design support for people.

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<v Speaker 2>You just you just send me a text.

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<v Speaker 1>I got you, okay before we go and before I

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<v Speaker 1>text you and anybody else who wants to know more

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<v Speaker 1>about human design or just what you're up to, or

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<v Speaker 1>just follow Emily's interesting journeys. Where can they find you

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<v Speaker 1>on social well.

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<v Speaker 2>I also have a podcast called meat heead Hippie, So

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<v Speaker 2>meathhead Hippie is kind of my fun place to if

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<v Speaker 2>you are into podcasts, which obviously you're listening to this

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful one. I do teach people how to meditate on

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<v Speaker 2>a course called Soul Unbound, So if you are interested

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<v Speaker 2>in learning how to kind of stay centered, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>there's just really beautiful things happening about how we can

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<v Speaker 2>change it. So follow me, Emily Shrum, meet Hippie, all

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<v Speaker 2>the things. I got lots of love to give. Love that.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for coming to hang out with us.

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<v Speaker 1>This was fun us and.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I love you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for watching it. Man taking me through my loss,

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<v Speaker 2>so that was nice to lose good support. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Such a great interview. I'm so glad Emily decided to

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<v Speaker 3>come and hang out with us, girl and give us

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<v Speaker 3>all the sea. Girl. People want to hang out with

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<v Speaker 3>you and get all yet see where can they find

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<v Speaker 3>you with Devin?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, girl, you can find me on my website that's

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<v Speaker 1>devinsimone dot com, Devin with a Y Simon with an eye.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're single, hit me up for a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of matchmaking, just click the matchmaking tab. You can check

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<v Speaker 1>me out on my Amazon lives. I love talking to

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<v Speaker 1>challenge fans over there. Just go to Devinsimone's gift closet

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Sounds crazy, but trust me. Or you can

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<v Speaker 1>find me on social like ig TikTok and snapchat at

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<v Speaker 1>Devin Simone what about you Day.

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<v Speaker 3>You can find me on all the socials of the

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<v Speaker 3>media's at Davon, Diane Underscore, because I'll be right there.

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<v Speaker 3>More importantly, I want to thank you guys. We want

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<v Speaker 3>to thank you for joining us for another episode of

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